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Pelosi: Obama/Clinton Ticket Still Unlikely

Back in March, when Sens. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) and Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) were at each other's throats, Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) was highly dismissive of the idea that the two could end up on a ticket together.

"I think that the Clinton [campaign] has fairly ruled that out by proclaiming that Sen. McCain would be a better commander in chief than Obama. I think that either way is impossible," Pelosi said. And she reiterated that point in April.

Now that the race is settled and unity is the word of the day, the idea of an Obama-Clinton ticket is gaining renewed currency. But not for Pelosi.

The Speaker was asked during her weekly press conference today: Did she still think it was "unlikely" Obama and Clinton would team up? Or had she changed her mind? "Yes. And no," Pelosi answered with a smile.

"But let me say that it is the prerogative of the nominee, whether it was Sen. Clinton or Sen. Obama, to choose her or his running mate, and I think it should still be that way," Pelosi said. "It's up to them."

Pelosi said she had not spoken to Clinton recently, and that while she had run into Obama briefly at the American Israel Public Affairs Committee conference Wednesday, a more detailed conversation about coordinating their efforts had not yet been planned.

"Well, obviously his victory is not even 48 hours old, so obviously at the appropriate time we will be sitting down together to talk about how we can work together for a Democratic victory in November," Pelosi said. "It's pretty exciting."

By Ben Pershing  |  June 5, 2008; 2:35 PM ET
Categories:  2008 Campaign , Dem. Leaders  
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At the very minimum, Hillary Clinton on the ticket would LOOSE two votes for every one she brought (mine and my husband's among them). Only the most irrational HRC supporter would ever vote for John McCain out of pure spite. And a sizable proportion of Mrs. Clinton's voters were really voting against Obama and had no intentions whatsoever of ever voting for her in the fall.

Mrs. Clinton on the ticket (if she and her husband *could* pass the vetting process, which I doubt) would be an unmitigated disaster. Ms. Pelosi's right.

ENOUGH ALREADY!

Posted by: Carmen Cameron | June 5, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

I certainly hope Pelosi is right!! An Obama-Clinton ticket would be a marriage made in HELL!! She would constantly be trying to emasculate him!!

Posted by: Maerzie | June 5, 2008 3:04 PM | Report abuse

The Queen Bee has spoken.

Posted by: 1ahead | June 5, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Pelosi is one of those skunks who turned on Clinton. I wouldn't vote for Obama even if Clinton was his VP. That's how revolting Obama is to many many Democrats. Elect a racist, America hater with questionable connections? NEVER. In fact Clinton would lose the support of many of her voters if she did join forces with that clown. I expect Clinton has no interest in being VP with Osama which is like dancing with the devil. Osama has done too many disrespectful things and should get a final slap in the face by Clinton supporters...losing in Nov. to McCain.

Posted by: Sal | June 5, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Thank you, madame Speaker! Nip the Clinton extortion attempt in the bud.

Posted by: RealChoices | June 5, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Darn Right! I don't want Clinton on that ticket. They both ran great campaigns but the winner has the right to chose his/her running mate. It is an insult that HRC's supporters are trying to pry this woman onto the ticket! It's a slap in Obama's face that in less than 24 hours those barracudas (sp?) were signing b.s. petitions and hammering the media (because that's the only folks who's buying that Bull S) about putting that wicked witch on his ticket. She made it clear that she and McCain were better suited and Obama wasn't. She made it clear that Obama could not be the president and lacked experience and the mere insanity that she wishes to plant her a$$ on that ticket is off the chain!!!!! She is a sore looser. She couldnt even muster up enough dignity to acknowledge him as the nominee...no class....I am sorry, while I respect her as a democrat, I don't respect her as a person because she has no digity....and is selfish. It's obvious that HRC and her supporters don't care about the big picture..the U.S.A., poverty, foreclosures, gas prices, economy, global relationships, the war on Iraq. This race isn't about Obama and it da$$ sure isn't about spoiled Hillary. NO HILLary on that ticket, AT ALL!!! There is a petition going around that Obama's supporters are signing opposing any such ticket and voicing their concerns of a "twisted arm" technique form her supporters!! This is not unity....it gangster politics played by the Clintons and their supporters!!!

Posted by: No Obama/Hillary ticket!!!! | June 5, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Hey, Sal, I'm guessing you are a Republican in a not-so-good disguise here. Your "misspelling" of Obama's name and trash-talking isn't going to change the minds of anyone, you will just get nods from others who already think like you do.

Posted by: ginny | June 5, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Here is what OBAMA's cabinet will look like:

President: OBAMA
Vice President: Aires
Secretary General: Rev. Al Sharpton
National Security Advisor: Preacher Pfeiger (sp?)
Homeland Security: Rev. Wright
First Lady: Michelle Obaman

Posted by: nancy sabet | June 5, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

I don't want Clinton on that ticket. They both ran great campaigns but the winner has the right to chose his/her running mate. It is an insult that HRC's supporters are trying to pry this woman onto the ticket! It's a slap in Obama's face that in less than 24 hours those barracudas (sp?) were signing a bogus petition demanding and hammering the media (because that's the only folks who's buying that Bull S), Obama and the DNC about putting Hillary on the ticket! Hillary made it clear that she and McCain were better suited to be President and Obama wasn't. She made it clear that Obama could not be the president and lacked experience and the mere insanity that she wishes and her supporters are demanding that she is put on a ticket is very disrespectful and leaves a very nasty, poor taste in the mouths of loyal democrats and all of the many supporters of Obama, even those who aren't democrats! WE voted for change and chosed our candidate. We respect Mrs. Clinton but she wasn't the candiate that has won the nomination and the most pledged and super delegates. I am very concerned with the actions of Hillary's supporters and the behind the scenes arm twisting that she and her supporters are continuing to bestow upon Mr. Obama and the DNC. I don't understand why the leaders of the party aren't nipping this in the bud before this gets out of hand and drives the democratic party farther apart resulting in another Republican - George Bush policy maker being put back into the White House. It's quite obvious that Mrs. Clinton and her supporters are taking on the role of a certian type of ownership of the democratic party which is suppose to be for the people and by the people. As a lifelong democrat and a supporter of Mr. Bill Clinton's presidency, I am hurt and disgusted with how Mrs. Clinton ran her campaign and the various disengenous tactics which she and her campaign has used against a fellow democrat. I would hate to think that this is being done to Mr. Obama because he's an African America. I can't think of anytime in American history where a candidate was nominated and within less than 24 hours, the loosing candidate's supporters and superdelegates demanded that he/she be brought onto that ticket! This is an autracity. It's obvious that HRC and her supporters don't care about the big picture..the U.S.A., poverty, foreclosures, gas prices, economy, global relationships, the war on Iraq. This race isn't about Obama and it certianly isn't about Hillary Clinton. Putting Hillary on that ticket doesn't represent any type of change. We the voters, voted for Obama because he represents CHANGE. This petition going around from Hillary's supporters represent another tactic of arm twisting and is very demeaning to Mr. Obama and his supporters. With all due respect, Mrs. Pelosi, I urge you as the Speaker of the House to please address this as soon as possible before Mr. Obama ends up loosing a lot of his supporters. Thanks for your understanding.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 5, 2008 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Speaker Pelosi is well known as someone who has been jealous of Senator Clinton's ability to inspire millions and millions of Democrats, as she--Pelosi--sees her own favorable numbers continue to decline. She has proven to be in ineffective and petty leader of our party in the House, and can't stand Mrs. Clinton's much higher popularity among Democrats even in Pelosi's own district and state. Gallup's latest numbers show Democrats have a 70% favorability rating for Mrs. Clinton even as the Congress with Reid and Pelosi leading it slides into the low 20's.

It's too bad that so many people posting their nasty little comments on the internet about Mrs. Clinton continue to cause the division in our party to grow instead of heal. Mrs. Clinton couldn't defeat the powerful combination of a great campaign by Obama, unrelenting hostility from the national media, and venomous attacks from members of her own party. She would have been a great president, but certainly doesn't need, and probably doesn't want, any role in a doomed presidency such as Obama's is promising to be.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 5, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Correction: I did not intend to be "anonymous" with my last post at 4:02. I stand behind my comments.

Posted by: donald169 | June 5, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse

It is apples and oranges to compare the overall favorability of the congress to the Democratic favorability of a Democratic senator. Congress as a whole is very ineffective, in part because the Senate can still filibuster. If each Rep and Senator had the same favorability as the whole congress, we'd see a lot more freshmen on Capitol Hill.

I don't particularly like Pelosi myself, but I thing she was right to lead the opposition to the creation of superdelegates a few years back, she's right that the nominee has the prerogative to choose their running mate, and she's right that Obama/Clinton is a very bad ticket.

Posted by: mikeinmidland | June 5, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

What's the problem? Party leaders don't trust Obama to make a decision on his own? Hasn't decision making been one of his many flaws -- according to Hillary and Senator Edwards. Hopefully Hillary won't be Obama's V.P. She has a good career ahead of her and Obama.... Well, who knows what his political future looks like. I'm waiting for Obama to debate McCain in town hall meetings -- unscripted. Let the guy think for himself.

Posted by: Diane | June 5, 2008 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Dear Congressional Democrats,

We think it would be a good idea if you'd leave the business of selecting a VP candidate to Senator Obama and instead concentrate on preventing Mr. Bush from starting a war with Iran. We'd really appreciate it.

Sincerely,

The World

Posted by: Just sayin' | June 5, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

I was disappointed when it became clear Clinton was losing to Obama, but now that he is the nominee, I am thinking a position of VP for Clinton might help her advance to the position of president after Obama's term if he doesn't pan out. Of course for that to happen Obama would have to beat McCain. I voted for Clinton and was excited for a while that this country might progress to having a female POTUS. However I feel about Obama's inability, it is still a milestone this country has advanced to having a black (even if only half-black) nominee for POTUS. The articles I have written have Clinton maintaining her stance that it is Obama's decision and she herself has not approached him with the idea of naming her as his running mate. If he doesn't, I will vote for McCain. If he does, it may take me longer to decide whether or not to vote for Obama/Clinton v McCain.

Posted by: Nancy | June 5, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Oops, I meant articles I have READ, not written. Sorry!

Posted by: Nancy | June 5, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | June 5, 2008 4:56 PM | Report abuse

If you people vote for McCain after the last 8 years with Bush, you're stupid. Point blank.

Posted by: Erik Rashad | June 5, 2008 5:01 PM | Report abuse

If you hang out with Basset Hounds long enough, you develop a pretty good sense of what works best and what does not. For instance, despite their "right" to compete, it makes little sense to waste their talents trying to herd sheep with border collies laughing in the distance, not to mention the sheep. However, give B.H.s a family to love, and you will see how wonderfully they contribute. The lesson here, Senator Clinton's talents are much better directed away from Veepsville. The "dream ticket" idea must have originated with Sominex. Opposites may indeed attract, but better yet in opposite locations.
PS I hear that the Obamas have promised their daughters that they could get a puppy. I hope that it is a Basset hound. George Washington was presented with a pair of these wonderful creatures by General Lafayette.

Posted by: Hound Guy | June 5, 2008 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Sal is clearly a Republican idiot.

Posted by: Sal Republican | June 5, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse

The bulk of you are colossal morons and probably don't deserve the right to vote, let alone waste oxygen. Congratulations on making America and the democratic process so awesome for the rational people these past 8 years.

Posted by: Dr. Moriarty | June 5, 2008 6:12 PM | Report abuse

I don't think it a good Idea for Hillary to be on the ticket, but I do think Obama might do well by having her in his Cabinet. For instance Sec of State. Both Hillary and Bill have a lot of experience that could be put to good use.

Posted by: Steven Morgan | June 5, 2008 6:38 PM | Report abuse

what do you do with President Clinton? He would never pass the "vetting process", he needs to reire back to his old habits out of the public eye.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 5, 2008 6:56 PM | Report abuse

Pelosi is just jealous. She takes every opportunity to bash Hillary. She might think she has a chance in the ticket herself or wants to be the first female vicepresident next election.
Regarding Carmen's Comments:
1) "At the very minimum, Hillary Clinton on the ticket would LOOSE two votes for every one she brought (mine and my husband's among them)". I think that's an accurate statement. I would add she would lose 2 votes at most. People will not stop voting Obama because he picked Hillary. And a lot of people will vote because Hillary is in the ticket. Republicans will unite against Hillary, but that does not matter. Democrats votes will outnumber Republicans for the first time in a long time. The only reason while Democrats lose elections is because they stay at home.
2) "Only the most irrational HRC supporter would ever vote for John McCain out of pure spite." Completely agree. At the 11th hour who wants another 4 years of the same.
3) "And a sizable proportion of Mrs. Clinton's voters were really voting against Obama and had no intentions whatsoever of ever voting for her in the fall." Totally disagree. Who will vote her to get rid of Obama (he's not that important) to not vote for her in the general? That's just ridiculous. She earned her votes as much as he earned his votes. They had different strategies and Obama's was better. Clinton thought she will win on Feb 5 and he did what is was necessary to win all the little states and keep the count close. After that Clinton campaign was always behind the 8 ball.


Posted by: Alex G | June 5, 2008 7:48 PM | Report abuse

"Here is what OBAMA's cabinet will look like:

President: OBAMA
Vice President: Aires
Secretary General: Rev. Al Sharpton
National Security Advisor: Preacher Pfeiger (sp?)
Homeland Security: Rev. Wright
First Lady: Michelle Obaman"
Posted by: nancy sabet | June 5, 2008 3:46 PM
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Oh ho ho ho Nancy, you are so funny and especially clever, not to mention ignorant and hateful. By the way it's "Ayers".

Posted by: Anonymous | June 5, 2008 8:16 PM | Report abuse

Wow, I really think that Obama should should choose HRC. That would be a match made in Hell. The Clintons deserve nothing less than to be part of a totally losing team. Yeah, I'm a Hillary hater!

Posted by: Michael Ray Thompson | June 5, 2008 10:28 PM | Report abuse

Wow, I really think that Obama should should choose HRC. That would be a match made in Hell. The Clintons deserve nothing less than to be part of a totally losing team. Yeah, I'm a Hillary hater!

Posted by: Michael Ray Thompson | June 5, 2008 10:29 PM | Report abuse

Thanks to Speaker Pelosi, the party has a grown-up political voice in the room. There are things that a family member should not say. And the rest of the family should respect that.
Thank you Speaker

Posted by: drC | June 6, 2008 11:19 AM | Report abuse

I have a message for all you angry female Hillary supporters who want to vote for John McCain: PLEASE DO. DO NOT vote for Obama. Apparently, you practice that 'cut off my nose to spite my face' philosophy and I for one, want to help you. You became a democrat in the first place because you did not feel like the republican polices were beneficial to you but none of that matters now because you hate Obama so much. Apparently, things like healthcare, jobs and reasonable gas prices do not mean anything to you anymore so please VOTE for McCain. I'll even suspend my donations to the Obama campaign this month and contribute to John McCain's campaign to help you out. I know that punishing Obama is more important than 'stupid' economic issues so please vote for McCain. I know you wont be happy until you lose you jobs to overseas markets, have to pay $10 dollars per gallon at the pump and are no longer covered under any insurance policy, all in the name of punishing Obama, so please vote for McCain. Let me know what I can do to help punish this 'Obama', who will go on to future successes, whether he wins or not. PLEASE LETS PUNISH OURSELVES BY PUNISHING OBAMA AND VOTE FOR MCCAIN. I can't wait (ah,ah)!!!

Posted by: page | June 6, 2008 12:17 PM | Report abuse

I have a message for all you angry female Hillary supporters who want to vote for John McCain: PLEASE DO. DO NOT vote for Obama. Apparently, you practice that 'cut off my nose to spite my face' philosophy and I for one, want to help you. You became a democrat in the first place because you did not feel like the republican polices were beneficial to you but none of that matters now because you hate Obama so much. Apparently, things like healthcare, jobs and reasonable gas prices do not mean anything to you anymore so please VOTE for McCain. I'll even suspend my donations to the Obama campaign this month and contribute to John McCain's campaign to help you out. I know that punishing Obama is more important than 'stupid' economic issues so please vote for McCain. I know you wont be happy until you lose you jobs to overseas markets, have to pay $10 dollars per gallon at the pump and are no longer covered under any insurance policy, all in the name of punishing Obama, so please vote for McCain. Let me know what I can do to help punish this 'Obama', who will go on to future successes, whether he wins or not. PLEASE LETS PUNISH OURSELVES BY PUNISHING OBAMA AND VOTE FOR MCCAIN. I can't wait (ah,ah)!!!

Posted by: page | June 6, 2008 12:17 PM | Report abuse

When I read all the shameful things that are being said, I cry a little!

our comments says something about who we are as individuals.

When will we come together as one? We must learn from our past mistakes or we will perish as fools.

Posted by: Marie | June 6, 2008 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Dear Dinosaurs,

You're going extinct and fast. Obama will be the next president and a new generation with more inclusive and rational values will take control and lead this nation forward while the likes of Sal and Nancy Sabet will stand tall with fists held high screaming their brand of "segregation forever"' as they simply fade away into history.

Posted by: Karen | June 6, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Washington DC is full of groupthink. It's a small, company town and everyone talks to everyone else, and they all agree with each other. Washington DC is not America, and it's easy to lose touch with reality.

That's why I'm somewhat amused at all the trash talking about Hillary not being the presumptive vice presidential candidate. As a rabid Obama supporter (and one who never cottoned to Hillary as a candidate), it makes total sense to me that Hillary is the most logical choice to be the #2 person on the ticket.

Just as JFK put Lyndon Johnson on board as VP in 1960, Obama needs to put Hillary on board, and for the same reasons. JFK knew that he couldn't win the presidential election on his own, and he needed to reach out to those voters in those regions where he was going to have a hard time. And it worked!

As much as I love Obama, I know that he has limited demographic appeal. Highly educated, well off professionals like myself swoon for him, but I know that he has significant problems reaching seniors, women, and blue collar voters -- the very people that Hillary most deeply appeals to. About the only way that Obama could put someone on the ticket other than Hillary would be to put a blue collar woman over 65 years old on the ticket, and I don't know any national figure other than Hillary who can reach out to these big three demographic votes.

And by the way, I'm sick to death of both stupid Obama and Clinton supporters who deify their candidate and demonize the other. Wake up, you idiots! Do you want John McBush to get a third term?

Posted by: Karl Eysenbach | June 6, 2008 3:20 PM | Report abuse

These comments are absolutely ridiculous. Do any of your people even have an education? Do you know anything about these candidates? I am, and will always be, middle of the road. I am not a democrat, and I am not a republican. I vote for the person. This nonsense about calling names is horendous. I am an avid supporter of Senator Clinton and believe she was, by far, the most qualified candidate for the office of President of the United States. Senator Obama was, by a VERY long shot, the least qualified. It is not about "Hilary didn't get it so I'm voting for McCain out of spite" its simply the fact that McCain is the better candidate, regardless of his party. And those of you who claim Senator McCain would carry on four more years of the Bush Administration must not know much. Senator McCain is a far cry from President Bush. Stop reading your mainstream media and find yourselves a reliable source. As far as the "dream ticket" goes, I see that as Senator's McCain and Clinton. Anyone who teams up with Senator Obama will be committing political suicide. You thought the last eight years were bad? Well, guess what, the next four will surely be worse if Senator Obama is elected. Zero experience, an elitest, and the man lives in total dream world to gain votes of college students. Aren't we all impressed....

Posted by: Desirae | June 6, 2008 6:32 PM | Report abuse

You people who underestimate the political savvy of Barack Obama, take a page out of Hillary Clinton's Barack WHO? book. She dismissed him as a light weight, a novice, a person whose lack of political experience guaranteed her the nomination. Look at the way this man ran his campaign. Compare its success with any other campaign run in the history of presidential compaigns. If you are impressed, then think about how this man and his team will run our country. Also, if you look at his most trusted advisors, you will see that all but one are Caucasians. So all you bigots can rest easy. In my opinion, there should be some African Americans on his team, but I doubt he will dump the people who have been with him for years just to fill a quota. You racists should hold a mirror behind your backsides and look to see what we all see when we read your posts. Shame on you people who still refuse to look at this man as an accomplished American. OBAMA 08

Posted by: Laurel Rold | June 6, 2008 9:26 PM | Report abuse

nancy sabet: Shame on you.... It is shaman blogging.

Posted by: mali23 | June 9, 2008 11:41 AM | Report abuse

I was a Hillary Clinton supporter until my outrage at her comment, which I distinctly recall ..."I would bring a life time of experience to the White House, and Senator McCain would bring a life time of experience to the White House.....and Senator Obama....well,... he brings a speech that he gave in 2004."

That comment changed my opinion for ever regarding Senator Clinton. I would be appalled if Obama selects her for the honor of Vice President.

Posted by: trlaw | June 9, 2008 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Hillary Clinton is a corrupt racist. Her presence on the ticket is the one thing that would make me stay home (except to vote against every NYS pol who tolerated her outrageous behavior.).

Posted by: Miri NY | June 9, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

Politics in the USA should not be a place
for "bigotry" : bigotry against Race, Women
or any type of Bigotry. "A House Divided
Against Itself Cannot Stand".....A Nation
Divided Against itself Cannot Stand. A Political Party Divided Against Itself cannot
stand! Nancy Pelosi is entitled to her
Opinion as each one of us posting on this
blog! Instead of criticizing one another...
let's "listen to one another's thoughts, ideas
and opinions. No is obligated to agree...
just listen and talk things out....
and just maybe some people can come up
with ideas that will benefit this nation!!!
"Listening" is the very best
method of learning about matters......
and learning from other persons!

A Divided Democratic Party means....
another Triumph for the GOP and the
Republican Party. McCain gets in....and
another 4 years of George W Bush and all of his policies, another
4 years of a WORSENING Economy; another
4 years of outsourcing and loss of Millions of American Jobs by BUSH BUDDIES....BIG
BUSINESS! to overseas; another 4 years of cuts to
Medicare, More Cuts to HUD Section 8 Housing( $98.8 Billion so far) Medicaid and Programs for the
Disabled and Poor; another 4 years of
Health Insurance Plans so expensive and
limited...that the Middle-classed Americans (if there are any left after
the Bush Administration gets through) cannot afford; gasoline prices so much
higher than $4.00 a gallon......;
A Perpetual War in Afghanistan &
Iraq.......and a third War with Iran
costing Millions of American Lives and
Millions of Dollars more.

From what I have learned about both Hillary Clinton
and Barrack Obama.....they come from
good backgrounds and have a record of
doing Good Things for People in the USA:
poor, middle-classed and just anyone!!!!
I feel that both Hillary and Barrack have
the same agenda for policies to build
up the USA AGAIN!!! Barrack said that
it will not be easy to "undue all the
crimes of the Bush Administraion to the
American People....so quickly!
Vote for McCain and you get George W.
Bush for another 4 years.....and I hear
that McCain is even worse than George W!
Whom do you think has been advising
George W. Bush for the past 8 Years???
John McCain...that's Right" McCain"! I was
shocked to read all this!!!
Where has the Policies of George W.Bush
and ( John McCain) taken Americans?
Where? Just look around, wake up and
smell the roses ( or should I say the
poisonous polluted air) that we are
breathing!!!!!

I will be very happy " if" Barrack
chooses Hillary as his running mate!
This is all that I have to say. I hope
that I have not offended anyone here.
It certainly has not been my intentions!
One last thought, " Let's listen to
one another and discuss, debate.....
and see if any of us can come up with
some better solutions to "Make America
Well Again!"
God Bless You All!!!

Posted by: Bluestone882 | June 9, 2008 6:40 PM | Report abuse

Nancy Pelosi stinks.

And she and Obama should know that Hillary can't "give away" her voters. We vote with our minds, don't believe in cults and the smart ones won't be voting for Obama after all the lies and baloney he has put out. Let the thickheads that can't think vote for him. And, of course the blacks will vote for him. Ted Kennedy and James Clyburn think that is great. But they think it is terrible if a white votes for a white or a woman for a woman. Actually we're not dumb. We vote for the person and those switch to Obama are just voting party. I don't believe a bad Democrat is better than anyone. I vote for the best person or the lesser of two evils. Usually it is for the lesser of two evils. Which candidate is worse should be our question and we should vote for the better one.

Posted by: katherine | June 9, 2008 10:18 PM | Report abuse

Nancy, every time you get involved in this issue you annoy half the party.

Since you are doing a good job as speaker, why don't you stick to it and stop making yourself look bad.

This issue is one where I hope HRC agrees with the more strident Obamabots that she does not really want to be on the ticket.

If she accepts and helps him get elected she would be the enabler-in-chief for what promises to be a mediocre presidency.

If she accepts and the ticket loses she will get the lion's share of the blame.

Chances are Obama is going to need her (we'll know in a month). Here's hoping she resists the temptation.

Obama-Richardson 2008

Posted by: Paul | June 10, 2008 1:11 AM | Report abuse

What kind of leadership does Pelosi have in the House of Congress? She should have spear-headed the idea of impeaching Bush. Until now she's still among those who are strongly against it, despite despite Kuchinich's repeated calls for it.

She surely is the one hoping to be picked by Obama for the Vice Presidency.

I just hope Hillary Clinton declines any encouragement towards the idea. So she can easily run again for the Presidency in 2012 without any buts about it.

Posted by: Firefly2 | June 10, 2008 6:08 AM | Report abuse

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