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Is Obama Really the 'Most Liberal' Senator?

You've probably heard the charge dozens of times by now: Barack Obama (D-Ill.) is the "most liberal" member of the Senate. The assertion is based on National Journal's annual vote ratings, and it's become a staple of Republican talking points as the GOP tries to paint the presumed Democratic nominee as well outside the political mainstream.

But is it true? Several different blogs and Web sites have tackled that question, delving into NJ's methodology and whether the charge against Obama is fair. The best analysis Capitol Briefing has seen so far, though, is a new piece by Josh Patashnik on The New Republic Web site. Humble blogger that he is, Capitol Briefing does not have a fancy recommendations category like "Fix Picks." So suffice it to say, you should read this story.

It's been clear since Obama was elected in 2004 that he was not really a centrist; it seems appropriate to say that he's on the left side of the Senate spectrum. But it never seemed quite right to hear that he was really the most liberal member of the chamber, more so than self-described socialist Bernard Sanders (I-Vt.) or liberal icon Russell Feingold (D-Wis.). (The 2004 Democratic nominee, Sen. John Kerry (Mass.), was similarly tagged in past NJ rankings, and that didn't seem quite right either.)

As the TNR story points out, Obama was ranked the 16th most liberal Senator in 2005 and was 10th in 2006. Has he really moved so far to the left? One problem for Obama is that, like the other presidential contenders, he has missed a lot of Senate votes in the 110th Congress, including some where he could have boosted his "conservative" credentials by being present and accounted for. And since there's no absolutely objective way to judge which votes are liberal and which are conservative, NJ necessarily uses subjective criteria to make those judgements. But TNR cites examples of votes by Obama that were considered "liberal" even though they may have cut across ideological lines.

The point here isn't to knock National Journal; there is no easy way to rank members' votes, and no obviously better system has emerged (another study cited in the TNR piece ranked Obama as the 11th-most liberal Senator). But it's worth remembering next time you hear the "most liberal" charge that the numbers don't necessarily tell the whole story.

By Ben Pershing  |  July 30, 2008; 10:06 AM ET
Categories:  2008 Campaign , Senate  
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How conservative is McCain? Where does he rank on the extremist spectrum of the right?

So far, he's been right of Bush on the war, negotiations with Iran, and the economy. He's also missed more Senate votes than Obama according to the Washington Post's own congressional record.

Posted by: rossc | July 30, 2008 12:24 PM | Report abuse

This old Republican tactic is really worn out.

The senators you named plus Kennedy, Shumer and Durkin also seem to qualify.

Posted by: toldyouso | July 30, 2008 12:34 PM | Report abuse

My friends, I promise to out-Bush Bush!

Posted by: McCain_08 | July 30, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

How about John McCain not doing his job as Senator at all, since I think about April or earlier. Obama has been there on and off, while still campaigning, but McCain hasn't been in the Senate to vote on legislation for a long while. He's literally derelict in doing his duty as a Senator. sounds like a firing offense for anyone else who wouldn't bother to show up for work. or in this case, a 'non-hiring' situation: as in don't 'hire' him as Prez. hey works for me.

Posted by: breakspear | July 30, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Read Obama's second book, 'The Audacity of Hope.' Its tone all of the way through is moderate, not far-left liberal.

Posted by: oldhonky | July 30, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Why has the Corporate Media allowed the GOP to turn Liberal into a bad word? Would you rather have a liberal or conservative serving of ice cream? What is wrong with having a government that is responsive to the American People instead of only to international Conglomerates? People who do not objectively question this concept should not be allowed to vote...Bring back the literacy tests!!!

Posted by: Becky | July 30, 2008 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Actually McCain's 80% conservative rating puts him in the bottom quintile of Republican Senators. So, actually he's pretty liberal. Hence not very attractive to his party's base. Nonetheless he will still beat Obama.

Posted by: CerpherJoe | July 30, 2008 1:30 PM | Report abuse

The GOP didn't turn the word Liberal into a bad word. Ill thought-out American liberal policies did it all on their own.

Posted by: CerpherJoe | July 30, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

"How conservative is McCain? Where does he rank on the extremist spectrum of the right?"

There is a widget for comparing congress members on voting. Check it out:
http://www.cqpress.com/pages/bedfellows

Posted by: Marc | July 30, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

He's a liberal through and through. I predict that the voting public will see through his rhetoric and there is a landslide for McCain in the Fall. Obama will get the central cities, but the majority of Americans realize that hard work and sacrifice are leadership qualities not talk.

Posted by: Falls Church, VA | July 30, 2008 1:50 PM | Report abuse

If "conservative" means that you invade and occupy a country that didn't attack you while running up the largest defecit in the history of the Republic and throwing out the right to see evidence against you in a court of law, then I'm definitely ready for a so-called "liberal" administration.

Posted by: John G. | July 30, 2008 2:06 PM | Report abuse

...hard work and sacrifice... and this is the RNC/GOP mantra...snooze...zzzzzzzz
.zzzzzzz....zzzzzz...snooze.......

Thats what you'll hear on the republican side of the senate...doofuses....2 things that they will never have to ever do

Posted by: AlexP1 | July 30, 2008 2:17 PM | Report abuse

Hey Falls Church,

Are you hear on earth or out in space or worst yet, an alternate universe? Maybe the alternate universe you are living in will have an alternate fuel for the world and dry-out the terrorist supporting Saudia Arabian government, along with Jordan, Syria and Tehran, Iran.

Landslide for John McCain? Get real Falls Church! If anything, it will be a landslide for Senator Obama or he will win by 3-5% points, and we know why he will win by a small margin. He is unknown and does not "resemble" past candidates, can you dig it?

Posted by: CitizenAJ | July 30, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse

yes, granting immunity to law-breaking telecomms is soooo Liberal! And giving the government more power to spy on us is equally Liberal. If Obama is a Liberal I need to find a new label.

Posted by: Glenn | July 30, 2008 2:31 PM | Report abuse

do you consider Larry Craig conservative.... i'm sick of these hypocrites - you're through in this town

Posted by: sickofit | July 30, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

By any reasonable measure, Obama is "conservative" and Bush-McCain are extreme right. Fascist is really not too extreme.

Posted by: mnjam | July 30, 2008 2:38 PM | Report abuse

You call this reporting?
It's persiflage.
If you want to perform a real service call Fournier over at the A.P.---that is, if it's still answering its phones---and ask if Obama invented the internet.
And be sure to call McCain with the results.

Posted by: Jack Conway | July 30, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

In 2003 the National Journal ranked Kerry as the most liberal member of the senate. Every election the National Journal chooses the democratic candidate as the "Most Liberal". Its rigged and its purpose is to provide fodder against the democrats.

Posted by: Dave | July 30, 2008 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Obama crafted a liberal rating by voting on issues such as abortion. But what those ratings don't examine, is that when something would cost the big money interests, he changes the fine print. And his economic advisors are Reagan free trade Chicago school.

Obama is a corporate dream candidate, a placebo for the progressives: favor money but without those pesky Religious Rightwingers (till very recently he joined them on abortion).

If you don't want McCain -- nominate Hillary on August 25; she's the only one who can beat McCain. It's possible: hillarysupporters.com

Posted by: fsteele | July 30, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

When did it became a liability to be liberal? Look what right wing nuts have produced: W. The country is not center-right. It is also center-left and Obama is right there. After 8 years of right-wing ideologically-driven presidency ever, America will breath a sigh of relieve to have a smart, well-spoken, and good temperamented president in the White House. Not some old dude that is on the verge of forgetting his own name.

Posted by: Che | July 30, 2008 3:26 PM | Report abuse

why dosent the country ban the terms liberal, conservative, democrat, and republican. then maybe people will actually think about what they are voting for instead of voting solely on party lines. it would be amazing what would happen if the party affiliation was not listed on ballots. i bet people would stop voting because they wouldnt know who to vote for, i.e. they only vote on party lines.

Posted by: joe | July 30, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

No, Obame is not more liberal than our beloved Bernie Sanders who battles day in and day out for the betterment of all of us and an end to privilege. Jeffords Republicans and Leahy Democrats both are dismayed to see Obama moving to the right on issues such as faith based initiatives, the status of Jerusalem or bellicose moves against Iran when negotiations could do so much more. But we are a practical people, up here in our mountains, and when we look at the field it is obvious that we will be will be supporting Barack overwhelmingly against McSame.

As a Son of Vermont President Calvin Coolidge once said, ""If the spirit of liberty should vanish in other parts of the union and support of our institutions should languish, it could all be replenished from the generous store held by the people of this brave little state of Vermont." That statement is as alive today as it was when "Silent Cal" first spoke it.

Posted by: Randomarrow | July 30, 2008 3:28 PM | Report abuse

McCain hasn't voted in the senate since April 8th, btw.

Posted by: John M. | July 30, 2008 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Jesus Christ was certainly a liberal.
"Turn the other cheek"
"Love thy neighbor"
"Help the poor"

You'll never see a conservative live any of these principles.

Posted by: Tim from Silver Spring | July 30, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Actual liberals and progressives like me and my friends laugh at the description of Obama as the most liberal senator. It's certainly not true at all, far from it.
We wish he was but he isn't.
Another false meme for the press to write about.

Posted by: Bill | July 30, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Actual liberals and progressives like me and my friends laugh at the description of Obama as the most liberal senator. It's certainly not true at all, far from it.
We wish he was but he isn't.
Another false meme for the press to write about.

Posted by: Bill | July 30, 2008 4:12 PM
*********************

I totally agree with Bill --and I'm a centrist registered independent, fully dedicated to electing Obama as our next President.

The whole ranking system is flawed. The National Journal -- decides which issues/bills it will survey -- what the legislator's vote means (the NJ decides what a liberal or conservative vote is) -- and does not take into account the overall strategy of the legislative process.

Furthermore, it does not count a legislator's publicly stated position on an issue -- if that person misses a vote.

The liberal (or conservative) ranking applied by the National Journal is superficial and nearly meaningless - when applied to anyone voting in the middle of the spectrum.

Posted by: GandalftheGrey | July 30, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

The only thing Obama can do is talk the talk...Who is he really, anybody know? He comes out of nowhere! I mean really, his experience with the gov comes from being a Senator, On Feb 11th this year he becomes a nominee, he has maybe 5 months experience there. Big deal, If I needed to have heart surgery I would find someone with a whole lot of experience before he opened me up.......But people are willing to vote Obama for the Highest position
in the World, come people This is America, If Obama wins, our country will not be The Home of the Free and The Brave...WAKE-UP

Posted by: concerned | July 30, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

So, what does the liberal media say about ChickenLiberal today?

My stars!

Mirror! Mirror! On the wall!

Who's the most chickenliberal of all?

Posted by: DaTourist | July 30, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Well, ahem, compared to Robert Mugabe, Obama may not be the most ChickenLiberal of all!

Posted by: DaTourist | July 30, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Why does ChickenLiberal object to being the most liberal Senator of all?

Does Barney Frank object to being a gay US Representative?

Does a wild bear take dumps in the woods?

Posted by: DaTourist | July 30, 2008 4:52 PM | Report abuse

THE AUDACITY OF HOPE?

Isn't that the title of Obama's book, which Obama borrowed from ultraconservative Jeremiah Wright, so that proves that Obama can't be the most ChickenLiberal of all?

Right? Right!

Obama borrowed that title before he realized Wright wasn't the Wright Obama had known for 20 years!

Was he Wright? Was he Wrong?

Hard to tell when ChickenLiberal is Wright or Wrong!

Posted by: DaTourist | July 30, 2008 4:56 PM | Report abuse

"I'se not de mos' lib'ral chicken," cried Brer ChickenLib'ral. "Iffen you call me dat chickenlb'ral, I'se gonna kick wif both my foots!"

Posted by: DaTourist | July 30, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

INTERNATIONAL COURT OF JUSTICE (THE HAGUE) WISHES TO SPEAK WITH MCBUSH, CHENEY, RICE, MCCAIN IN JANUARY FOR WAR CRIMES.

GOP Republican Wall Street Get Rich By Selling America Party started the illegal Iraq War. Now the GOP Republicans are totally obligated to immediately stop the illegal Iraq War.

Mumbles McCain came into conflict with higher-ranking personnel and did not always obey the rules, which contributed to a very low class rank (894 of 899) that he did not aim to improve. McCain earned a reputation as a partying man. The planes he was flying crashed twice and once collided with power lines.

McSame Poor Military Record / McWife Former Criminal Drug Addict

GOP Republican John McCain (McBush III) is a weak candidate, but that does not give him the excuse to publicly insult his wife who is a recovering drug addict.

In 1989, Cindy McCain became addicted to opioid painkillers such as Percocet and Vicodin, which she initially took to alleviate pain following two spinal surgeries for ruptured discs and to ease emotional stress during the Keating Five scandal, which involved her as a bookkeeper who had difficulty finding receipts.

The addiction progressed to where she resorted to stealing drugs from her own AVMT. During 1992, Tom Gosinski, the director of government and international affairs for AVMT, discovered her drug theft.

Subsequently in 1992, her parents staged an intervention to force her to get help; she told her husband about her problem, attended a drug treatment facility, began outpatient sessions, and ended her three years of active addiction.

In January 1993, McCain terminated Gosinski's employment on grounds of budgetary reasons. In spring 1993, Gosinski tipped off the Drug Enforcement Administration to investigate McCain's drug theft, and a federal investigation ensued.

McCain's defense team, led by Washington lawyer John Dowd, secured an agreement with the U.S. Attorney's office that limited her punishment to financial restitution and enrollment in a diversion program, without any public disclosure.

Meanwhile, in early 1994 Gosinski filed a wrongful termination lawsuit against McCain, which he told her he would settle for $250,000. In April 1994, Dowd requested that Maricopa County officials investigate Gosinski for extortion. The Phoenix New Times was about to publish a negatively-cast article about the whole affair.

Cindy McCain pre-empted this by publicly revealing her past addiction, stating she hoped it would give fellow drug addicts courage in their struggles: "Although my conduct did not result in compromising any missions of AVMT, my actions were wrong, and I regret them."

A flurry of press attention followed, including charges by Gosinski that she had asked him to lie concerning her drug use when the McCains were applying to adopt their baby from Bangladesh and statements by past AVMT employees that Gosinski had once threatened to blackmail her.

The Arizona Republic published an editorial cartoon ridiculing the motivations for her AVMT work and an award dinner in her honor was canceled citing poor ticket sales. In the end, both Gosinski's lawsuit and the extortion investigation against him were dropped.

AVMT concluded its activities in 1995. That year, McCain founded a new organization, the Hensley Family Foundation, which donates monies towards children's programs in Arizona and nationally, and she was largely a stay-at-home mom during the balance of the 1990s. She also held positions as vice president, director, and vice chair of Hensley & Co.

It is difficult to protect the country with McSame who graduated last in his war college and last on the battlefield. You cannot protect the country while spending your career as a prisoner.

Basically, McSame is qualified to be a prisoner and his McWife a recovering drug counselor.

Posted by: GOP Republican McFailures | July 30, 2008 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Yes, Barracky Hussein Osama Bin-Laden Obama is by far the most liberal senator - His voting record does not lie. The DEMOCRUDS are in big trouble !

Posted by: mike | July 30, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

McFailures,
Is this McTrue?

Posted by: JohnR | July 30, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

of course Obama is the most libera senator.


check this video out and you'll see why.


let us know what you think
thanks,
Real Brave Audio

Posted by: Real Brave Audio | July 30, 2008 6:19 PM | Report abuse

Of course Obama is the most libera senator.


http://youtube.com/watch?v=ONKKYnFFemY

let us know what you think
thanks,
Real Brave Audio

Posted by: Real Brave Audio | July 30, 2008 6:21 PM | Report abuse

Please excuse my earlier idiotic and slightly racist postings. I'm having issues.

Posted by: DaTourist | July 30, 2008 6:33 PM | Report abuse

Spin Left! Spin Right! Run hard to the Center!

Issues We care About!

The Republicans and the Bush administration should be held accountable not only for the cost of the Iraq War but the 492 billion dollar deficit.

- Part of the cost are the 30,000 USA Troops wounded.

-Start laying the groundwork to move the the US away from oil dependency.

As soon as the 2008 election is over The Republicans will start running for the next elections in 2010 and 2012. This is the reason gridlock doesn't help this country.

The Republicans as a group should "pay a price" for the Gridlock.

It will be the Center that saves America!

Obama '08

Posted by: Bobby | July 30, 2008 7:01 PM | Report abuse

We've gone from one extreme of the pendulum to the other extreme. Bush being to the extreme right, to Obama of the extreme left. As a moderate Dem, Obama is just TOO far to the left for me.

Posted by: CR | July 30, 2008 7:10 PM | Report abuse

How would anybody know where Obama falls in the liberal/centrist scale. He changes his position from day to day. When he's not changing his position, he's lying.

First he said the surge would result in higher casualties, then he claims he "always said the surge would result in decreased violence". LIE. First he pledged to meet the leaders of Iran without preconditions during his first year in office. Then he claims what he actually said was that he would meet leaders of rogue states "at a time and a place of my choosing" and with "preparations". LIE. That is NOT what he said last year. He never gets called on these lies. Free passes right and left.

I can't stand this guy. Who is he, anyway? Nobama, Nohow, NEVER!

Posted by: ccinatl | July 30, 2008 7:17 PM | Report abuse

Obama is left of the center right that is called "moderate" in the USA but not left in general.

I am a leftist. I have been very disappointed that the "liberal" wing of the party sold out the left leaning candidates (John Edward, Dennis K.) and even hated on Hillary, who had more ambitiously progressive policies on health care, free trade and even how to deal with Iraq now, not 5 years ago in the state senate.

Now I've have to vote for him. I'm not going to Nader (Verb) McCain into office But the "most liberal" tag is just wrong. I wish! Fiengold and Sanders represent real progressive voices. Barak is an opportunist- which is supposed to be what the liberals didn't like about B. Clinton.
His reversals on gun control, FISA, free trade, the death penalty, etc. He is full of rhetoric and charismatic as hell but he is not a leftist. Since the "liberals" in the party showed they don't really care about progressive policies- he might be considered one of them- but not the "most liberal" in the traditional sense of the word.

Leon

Posted by: Anonymous | July 30, 2008 8:00 PM | Report abuse

Why not knock the National Journal? They've been useful tools of the GOP since the days of the first Monica, and they will continue to be. Why the squeamishness, Ben?

Posted by: Cresttwo | July 30, 2008 8:11 PM | Report abuse

Just another far left post-McGovern liberal with the same far left tired liberal playbook. Obama is a far left guy - and a fraud to boot. This roach needs to be sprayed by the Orkin man.

Posted by: muskrat | July 30, 2008 8:44 PM | Report abuse

A Liberal Definition by John F. Kennedy:
September 14, 1960
What do our opponents mean when they apply to us the label "Liberal?" If by "Liberal" they mean, as they want people to believe, someone who is soft in his policies abroad, who is against local government, and who is unconcerned with the taxpayer's dollar, then the record of this party and its members demonstrate that we are not that kind of "Liberal." But if by a "Liberal" they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people -- their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties -- someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a "Liberal," then I'm proud to say I'm a "Liberal."

But first, I would like to say what I understand the word "Liberal" to mean and explain in the process why I consider myself to be a "Liberal," and what it means in the presidential election of 1960.
In short, having set forth my view -- I hope for all time -- two nights ago in Houston, on the proper relationship between church and state, I want to take the opportunity to set forth my views on the proper relationship between the state and the citizen. This is my political credo:

I believe in human dignity as the source of national purpose, in human liberty as the source of national action, in the human heart as the source of national compassion, and in the human mind as the source of our invention and our ideas. It is, I believe, the faith in our fellow citizens as individuals and as people that lies at the heart of the liberal faith. For liberalism is not so much a party creed or set of fixed platform promises as it is an attitude of mind and heart, a faith in man's ability through the experiences of his reason and judgment to increase for himself and his fellow men the amount of justice and freedom and brotherhood which all human life deserves.
I believe also in the United States of America, in the promise that it contains and has contained throughout our history of producing a society so abundant and creative and so free and responsible that it cannot only fulfill the aspirations of its citizens, but serve equally well as a beacon for all mankind. I do not believe in a superstate. I see no magic in tax dollars which are sent to Washington and then returned. I abhor the waste and incompetence of large-scale federal bureaucracies in this administration as well as in others. I do not favor state compulsion when voluntary individual effort can do the job and do it well. But I believe in a government which acts, which exercises its full powers and full responsibilities. Government is an art and a precious obligation; and when it has a job to do, I believe it should do it. And this requires not only great ends but that we propose concrete means of achieving them.

Our responsibility is not discharged by announcement of virtuous ends. Our responsibility is to achieve these objectives with social invention, with political skill, and executive vigor. I believe for these reasons that liberalism is our best and only hope in the world today. For the liberal society is a free society, and it is at the same time and for that reason a strong society. Its strength is drawn from the will of free people committed to great ends and peacefully striving to meet them. Only liberalism, in short, can repair our national power, restore our national purpose, and liberate our national energies. And the only basic issue in the 1960 campaign is whether our government will fall in a conservative rut and die there, or whether we will move ahead in the liberal spirit of daring, of breaking new ground, of doing in our generation what Woodrow Wilson and Franklin Roosevelt and Harry Truman and Adlai Stevenson did in their time of influence and responsibility.

Our liberalism has its roots in our diverse origins. Most of us are descended from that segment of the American population which was once called an immigrant minority. Today, along with our children and grandchildren, we do not feel minor. We feel proud of our origins and we are not second to any group in our sense of national purpose. For many years New York represented the new frontier to all those who came from the ends of the earth to find new opportunity and new freedom, generations of men and women who fled from the despotism of the czars, the horrors of the Nazis, the tyranny of hunger, who came here to the new frontier in the State of New York. These men and women, a living cross section of American history, indeed, a cross section of the entire world's history of pain and hope, made of this city not only a new world of opportunity, but a new world of the spirit as well.
Tonight we salute Governor and Senator Herbert Lehman as a symbol of that spirit, and as a reminder that the fight for full constitutional rights for all Americans is a fight that must be carried on in 1961.
Many of these same immigrant families produced the pioneers and builders of the American labor movement. They are the men who sweated in our shops, who struggled to create a union, and who were driven by longing for education for their children and for the children's development. They went to night schools; they built their own future, their union's future, and their country's future, brick by brick, block by block, neighborhood by neighborhood, and now in their children's time, suburb by suburb.

AMEN

Posted by: Proud to be Liberal | July 30, 2008 8:47 PM | Report abuse

McCain has long run both independently and to the center which is why I am voting for him. He also has strategies to boost the economy and reduce government spending that are both wise and sound.

Obama is the party's man and changes his position on a daily basis to get popularity ratings. He has no good plans for much of anything - from the war to the economy to energy costs to health care.

Call me a conservative Democrat - Obama is far too liberal and too labile for my vote.

Posted by: McCain Woman Democrat | July 30, 2008 9:08 PM | Report abuse

McCain's whining alot; now about Paris Hilton. This guy's actually running for President, of THIS country!? What a wimp!

Posted by: Frederick | July 30, 2008 9:26 PM | Report abuse

Bring back Jimmah Carter. He dood a great job. He could teach that Obama a thing or two 'bout gubmint.

Posted by: Nobama #0 | July 30, 2008 10:36 PM | Report abuse

McCain has long run both independently and to the center which is why I am voting for him.
**
Right, McCain is a revolving door. He has done a 360 on just about everything he stood for in 2000. Now whe is nothing but a gassy old man who can't sell himself, who offers nothing but rovisms. He has no plan except the same repub crap. Offshore drilling, which he opposed, but now supports, will do nothing tu cout gas costs. His gas-tax holiday is another joke that he hopes dummies will think will solve the crisis. Poor John, the media used to be his biggest supporters, now they are seeing the real McCain and reporting on his dumb moves. He can't stand it.

Posted by: mike l | July 30, 2008 10:36 PM | Report abuse

When is the "media" going to get it straight? The office of the Presidency is not up for labels such as liberal or conservative. It's a question of right and wrong. Does anyone want another gop in the highest office that will continue the corruption, graft, lies and it's thinly disguised war on U.S. citizens? Does anyone feel that their telephone calls, library books or medical history deserve to be monitored? Simply put Barack Obama appears to be a decent, thinking and ethical leader. Those qualities are what the voting public are looking for in the next President- not another thug to continue that status quo.

Posted by: pmaza10 | July 30, 2008 10:46 PM | Report abuse

Obama is too far left, just as Bush is too far right. McCain and Hillary are the moderates. It's not too late for Hillary. Obama is only the PRESUMPTIVE nominee for a reason, at this point he does not have the delegates needed for the nomination. We expect the DNC and Dem. party to follow their RULES, as they are so fond of quoting! Please see The Denver Group if you want to keep democracy in the democratic party! We need a centrist.

Posted by: rrow | July 30, 2008 11:50 PM | Report abuse

I appreciate and sometime agree with postings from conservatives. But PLEASE learn how to spell.
What is it with conservatives and spelling?
BTW: Unlike conservatives I don't hide behind from phony screen name. Develop a spine!

Posted by: Robert Blanchard, North Smithfield, RI | July 31, 2008 12:20 AM | Report abuse

Yes, there is still time to nominate HIllary. The real vote takes place Aug 25 at the convention, see hillarysupporters. Obama has had a test drive of the nomination and is tanking. Hillary is still ahead of him in polls! He has not bailed out the DNC, they are not getting donations, McCain is gaining.... And the real GOP attacks haven't started yet.

Posted by: fsteele | July 31, 2008 8:13 AM | Report abuse

Pretty convenient how every time there is a presidential election, the National Journal is able to produce some sort of ranking telling us the Democratic Candidate is the Most Liberal Person on Earth, while the republican is centrally conservative and would be a good fit to tuck your children in at night. Convenient indeed.

Posted by: nemotoad | July 31, 2008 10:58 AM | Report abuse

Hey, I have worked for a living since I was 16 and now I am over 60. I am a fiscally conservative liberal. My father served in WWII, I served during Vietnam and my son served in Iraq. We all think that McSame would be a nighmare for our country. Last in your class means not competent to serve. Why do Republicans always prefer the dumb ones?

Posted by: sailfreeascent | July 31, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Vote for Barack Obama. Not because whether he is a liberal or a centrist or a conservative. But because of the simple fact that Barack Obama is a Genuine Leader !

Posted by: Anju Chandel | August 1, 2008 1:01 AM | Report abuse

Obama has voted very liberal, he's voted present, and lately he is touting conservative Republican stances...you want to know how Obama will vote? You will not know based on his principles, since he will do and say anything to win.

I don't trust him.

P.U.M.A.

Posted by: kat in your hat | August 3, 2008 7:19 AM | Report abuse

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