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Tennessee Primary Gets Nasty

Looking for the nastiest Democratic primary in the country this cycle? The contest between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama may have been heated, but it was nothing compared to the battle underway right now in Memphis.

Voters in Tennessee's 9th district go to the polls today to determine whether freshman Rep. Steve Cohen or attorney Nikki Tinker will be the Democratic nominee in the fall. Cohen, who is Jewish, defeated the African-American Tinker in 2006 in the majority-black district. And the rematch has been heavily focused on issues of race, gender and even religion.

Tinker's last two TV ads have been particularly rough. In a spot released earlier this week, a black local former county commissioner criticizes Cohen for not supporting the removal of a statue of Confederate Gen. Nathan Bedford Forrest, an early leader of the Ku Klux Klan. The ad includes images of a hooded Klan leader and a burning cross.

And Tinker's most recent ad accuses Cohen of voting against allowing children to pray in schools -- a charge his campaign denies -- even "while he's in OUR churches slapping hands and tapping his feet." Is the "OUR churches" line a reference to Cohen being Jewish? It's not exactly clear, nor is it clear whether Tinker's late attacks will do her campaign any good.

"I would be surprised to see Nikki Tinker win," said David Wasserman, the House editor for the Cook Political Report. "The final ads of this race seem more like a Hail Mary than a long, well-thought out plan of attack."

Wasserman added that "usually ads as immediately acerbic as these do not play well," but that Tinker faces a dilemma: She can't really campaign on the need for "change," because Cohen's only been in Congress for two years.

The contest has divided Democrats in both Washington and Memphis. Tinker has been supported by a handful of black lawmakers and received a check from the Congressional Black Caucus political action committee. She also got the endorsement of EMILY's List, which prompted Cohen to tout his own longtime support of abortion rights and accuse the group of making its pick based on race and gender rather than legislative record.

And while Cohen might be feeling some pressure -- he allegedly shoved a cameraman Wednesday -- he has received some significant support lately that may help, including a $5,000 check this week from the liberal group's PAC. He has also gotten endorsements from some prominent black House members, including House Judiciary Chairman John Conyers (D-Mich.), who gave his blessing for Cohen's resolution apologizing for slavery and segregation to reach the House floor last week. Will that accomplishment, and Cohen's overall record, allow him to remain the only current white lawmaker to represent a majority-black district? We'll know by Thursday night.

By Ben Pershing  |  August 7, 2008; 8:53 AM ET
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I think it's getting pretty nauseating, everytime an African American is in trouble or running for office they play the race card. Just try to accomplish atask on your own merits, and if you get in trouble don't always yell racism, stand up and take your punishment, don't do the crime if u can't do the time!

Posted by: Ann | August 7, 2008 9:45 AM | Report abuse

When the race card is the only one left in your deck, I guess that's all you can play. Looks like it's time for a new deck!

One thing I do like about the elections this year is that we have gotten to see just how racist African-Americans truly are.

Posted by: mark | August 7, 2008 9:52 AM | Report abuse

Don't blame the African Americans. We learned from white people who always judge us as black before any merits. Whites have played the race card for hundreds of years. We've only just started.

Posted by: George | August 7, 2008 9:52 AM | Report abuse

I agree with Ann. It is ridiculous to try and link a Jewish legislator with the KKK. The KKK is anti-semetic as well as anti-black. It is shameful that the black candidate is trying to bring race into the campaign. There have been no more ardent supporters of civil rights for blacks then the Jews. She is totaly out of line.

Posted by: Alan | August 7, 2008 9:53 AM | Report abuse

Hey Ann, I think it's pretty nauseating that you would make such a statement about an entire ethnic group based on the poor behavior of a single politician. What in the world does running for office and doing "the crime" have to do with one another? Oh, right, obviously you make such connections when discussing African Americans automatically. Classy.

Posted by: squintz | August 7, 2008 9:56 AM | Report abuse

Hey jerkwads, it's no more "shameful" for an African American to exploit race than it is for anyone else to do it. Take a look in the mirror.

Posted by: squintz | August 7, 2008 9:57 AM | Report abuse

Yeah Ann, what you said makes no sense.

Posted by: HBB | August 7, 2008 10:02 AM | Report abuse

Hi, I am black. Vote for me because I am black and the other guy is not black and hates black people. If you don't vote for me they will take away your right to vote, and most likely you will never see your 40 acres and a mule unless you vote black. In summation, black.

Posted by: Rufus T. Fisch | August 7, 2008 10:07 AM | Report abuse

Ann, get a clue.

Posted by: self sycophant | August 7, 2008 10:08 AM | Report abuse

Same with you Rufus.

Posted by: self sycophant | August 7, 2008 10:09 AM | Report abuse

I agree with most of your point of views, except all black politicians don't use the race card when politicing. It's unfortunate that this canidate felt she had to use the race card instead sticking to the issues. Mr Cohen's jewish background doesn't have any bearing on how he represents his district. What's important, how effective is a person in office. Black, White or Brown shouldn't be the measuring stick Because theres good and bad in all of us. People don't get caught up in the heat of this campaign, because like I stated early, most people see through the gimmicks, both black and white. People stay focus and undivided, unity is the strength of all people.

Posted by: Ty W | August 7, 2008 10:09 AM | Report abuse

As an african-american I have seen some of the most vicious and hateful racist speech coming from jewish-americans. i would think that the as both races have a centuries of misery there'd be some common ground but I've gotten it worse from jews than from any other racial group.

Is it right for Turner to slam Cohen the way she is? I don't know the candidates enough well enough to say either way. it seems shameful of her. But I do know that no one here can get all annoyed about a black candidate using racial tactics against a jewish one. It's not like either group is perfect and hasn't used such tactics in the past or doesn't use them now.

Posted by: Darksider | August 7, 2008 10:10 AM | Report abuse

I think the entire country should vote out all the people who are currently entrenched in the political arena. It is time for all new leaders and no republicans or democrats.

Posted by: Robyn | August 7, 2008 10:10 AM | Report abuse

This is not in response to the other threads. I still do not understand the desire to remove the statue of Forrest. He speaks to parts of the history of Tennessee and the South that, while incredibly painful and still resonant with the issues of today, are still worth remembering. He points out to us that even though a man be one of outstanding valor and leadership, he may yet be wrong on other subjects. Forrest was a great man, even if he was dead wrong on some things. He ought to remind us of the prices paid for the world in which we now live.

Posted by: Scott | August 7, 2008 10:18 AM | Report abuse

Cohen is Genocide denier. He refused to acknowledge the premeditated extermination of more than 1.5 million Armenian Turkish citizens by the Government of Turkey in 1915, by voting against the house resolution recognizing this historical atrocity.

His rhetoric about his reasons echoes verbatim the current propanda of the Turkish Government, can you say "greased", boys and girls.

Anyone who uses political expediency and foreign graft to trump there own convictions does not have the character to remain in office.

Bottom line, this guy is a scumbag.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 7, 2008 10:26 AM | Report abuse

Try this on for size. I called the local AR Kids office about my step grandson who is bi-racial. I asked the office if he qualifies for programs as an African American. They asked me if his mother was black or white. I told them that she is white. They told me that according to the ethnic coding laws that since his mother is white he is considered caucasion. Does this mean that Obama is caucasion and not African American, since his mother is white?

Posted by: Arkie | August 7, 2008 10:27 AM | Report abuse

Apologize for slavery??? there isnt one person alive today who is responsible, this just seems very silly

Posted by: bart simpson | August 7, 2008 10:28 AM | Report abuse


Posted by: yogi bear | August 7, 2008 10:28 AM | Report abuse


By stating that we use the race card "everytime an African American is in trouble or running for office they play the race card" besides generalizing 40 million people wouldn't YOU be playing the race card?

Any sane human being would look at this situation and realize that it's a weak attempt at getting a emotional response but then again you probably agreed with the Willie Horton ad in the 80s right? How about the Rovian 9/11 fear mongering for the 2004 elections?

It's people like you that keep us from progressing past America's horrid history because with in all this time you've never taken the time to pay attention but to generalize. I find it funny that the major news networks are doing stories in 2008 to "introduce" so called "black life" to people as if we aren't the core of America.

Posted by: Dee | August 7, 2008 10:31 AM | Report abuse

This year's elections have come down to who plays the race card first and putting true political issues last. Why doesn't Tinker portray herself as a true politician and work for her constituency and not waste time trying to slander the one already in office? Why isn't she out there hitting the campaign trail trying to sway voters to her side by explaining her willingness to listen to their concerns and not worry about whether her opponent will or will not remove a statue of a Confederate soldier. The past is gone, let it die, deal with the here and future.

Posted by: Walter | August 7, 2008 10:33 AM | Report abuse

Well Ann, since this country is founded on a bedrock of racism, you should not be surprised when race comes out in every election involving a black candidate. When you say ignorant things like "don't do the crime if you can't do the time" you simply sound shrill and racist. As a brown American I have experienced racism from both black and white people; I am not trying to say that Tinker is not racist in her approach to this election, but that black people do NOT have a monopoly on such foul behavior by a long shot in this country.

Posted by: Jameel | August 7, 2008 10:37 AM | Report abuse

Its time to put racial issues aside there a far more important things we should be focusing on. The continuing downward spiral of this country has been caused by short thinking politicians who will sacrifice the American people for their own selfish ends. Meltdowns on the energy, financial, and job front need to be countered by strong leadership that doesn't waste time on stup resolutions about things that happened before their lifetime. It time to vote for sensible people be they black or white, male or female that can dig us out of the manure we are in now.

Posted by: Alex | August 7, 2008 10:41 AM | Report abuse

I think it is very sad that Ms. Tinker is exploiting the very racially charged atmosphere of Memphis in order to win an election. I think most Memphians want to see this city rise above its problems and begin to move forward, but all Ms. Tinker has done is to move us backwards tenfold.

Darksider, can you cite examples of racism from Jewish-Americans? If so, please elaborate.

Posted by: Elizabeth | August 7, 2008 10:43 AM | Report abuse

In actual truth many Americans relate to their ancestral/cultural/ethnic heritage and our present two party 'establishment' political system is becoming the 'playing field' for it all to hang out. The Tinker-Cohen race but another classic example.

Posted by: Iowa lad | August 7, 2008 10:45 AM | Report abuse

I recently moved to Memphis from the west coast and it has been a real eye opener. The majority of my life I have lived in an area where the color of one's skin isn't worth noting any more than the color of one's eyes (they are both the function of a handful of genes in our DNA after all; whoopdy do) and diversity is living among people of different national origin rather than living among people who are slightly different colored (it is really eye opening to have someone talk to you about whether their daughter will be happy or mad at them for not arranging a marriage for her like their parents did for them). In my experience an African American is someone who was actually born and raised on the African continent (and might actually be of Caucasian or Arabic ethnic origin originally; Africa isn't homogeneous in terms of skin color); everyone born in America are just American regardless of skin, hair, or eye color.

In Memphis it isn't any one particular skin color that is keeping racism alive but rather the entire society. Every time you see a fellow citizen and think of them as different because you have noted their ancestral lineage rather than simply seeing another American you are keeping the problem alive. Racism isn't about discrimination at a base level- it is fundamentally caused by being a superficial feature and thinking that person is different because of it. Whether you are biased good or bad against them doesn't matter, but rather that you are thinking of them as different to begin with. The fact that Cohen was of jewish ancestry does not matter, nor does Tinker's skin color. What matters is who they are as individual people, what their character and integrity is like, and this campaign as presented by both candidates, the press, and society, has done very little to talk about such things. That is very depressing for us as a society.

Posted by: Josh | August 7, 2008 10:49 AM | Report abuse

Our government keeps this country divided by assigning us an ethnic code. When are we going to take steps in removing this coding system so all citizens are either American or Foreign. The majority of us are a mixture of several heritages. Until this categorizing ceases we will remain divided or use it as a defense mechanism. It would be a great day in America when we run on our merit and values, not ethnic codes or religons. Let's get American and tear down the walls.

Posted by: Arkie | August 7, 2008 10:49 AM | Report abuse

To Darksider, Your comment, "That as an African American, I have seen some of the most vicious and hateful speech coming from Jewish-Americans" is particularly disturbing. Darksider evidently is unaware that the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Min. Louis Farrakhan and former Rep. and Green Party Pres. Candidate Cynthia McKinney aren't Jewish!

Posted by: Neil | August 7, 2008 10:51 AM | Report abuse

Cohen is great to watch when he is a part of the oversight hearings-his comment about whether cheny is a barnacle (not being sure of what branch of gov't he belongs to-when questioning 1 witness) was right on the mark. His questioning of witnesses always shows that he is up to speed on the topic. When you find a congress person that does this you may want to keep him more than 1 two year term. Good luck mr cohen

Posted by: kml | August 7, 2008 10:53 AM | Report abuse

If a congressman (Cohen) votes against a human rights bill condemning genocide and is proud of his vote. This means he has no MORALS and will always vote in favor or against a bill that interests and benefits him alone and not the people he represents.

Posted by: Sam | August 7, 2008 10:56 AM | Report abuse

Why do you force your racists views on us. Who used the race card first ,it was you wasn't it. You should not use our God to benefit your campaign.

Posted by: Jerry Keenum | August 7, 2008 11:06 AM | Report abuse

nikki tinker ( tinker Bell) need to keep sitting on the porch with her granny and wait on that CHECK..most people are going to vote for MR COHEN ( this is from a BLACK person)

Posted by: lady in red | August 7, 2008 11:07 AM | Report abuse

it's not about race/its about the right person for the position

Posted by: lady in red | August 7, 2008 11:09 AM | Report abuse

George says:
"Whites have played the race card for hundreds of years. We've only just started."

Yeah, we should try it again, because it worked out so well the first time around. Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Eye for and eye makes the whole world blind.

What, you want to revert to bloodfueds?

Posted by: Alvin | August 7, 2008 11:10 AM | Report abuse

Mr. Cohen will prevail. He, like all of us, has strengths and weaknesses. However Ms. Tinker has not given the voters of the Ninth District any reason to vote for her. Her previous ads were unfocused and devoid of ideas. She has just followed the example of most politicians when all else has failed. Remember Harvey Gantt and Jesse Helms in 1990? The pair of white hands balling up the rejection letter after an "unqualified minority" received the job? Wasn't that playing the "race card?"
As Rufus meant to say, "Hi, I am white. Vote for me because I am white and the other guy is not white and hates white people. If you don't vote for me they will take away your right to vote, and most likely you will never see your 40 acres and a mule unless you vote white. In summation, white." It's the American way.

Posted by: jerry | August 7, 2008 11:10 AM | Report abuse

Everyone's a little bit racist. Bigotry has never been exclusively white.

Posted by: Mark | August 7, 2008 11:18 AM | Report abuse

How many factories have closed in Tennessee in the last ten years? The people there, black and white, are hung up on race when they don't have jobs. We saw the same racist campaigning against Harold Ford by Bob Corker's campaign and it worked. Meanwhile healthcare has been cut back, public transportation is non-existent and the freeway system and parks are a mess. Wake up, Tennesseans. Race is the least of your troubles.

Posted by: Judy | August 7, 2008 11:22 AM | Report abuse

Ahhhhhhh.. Good ole racism. White or Black.
Now that's the America I know. ;)

Posted by: Rollo Dequent | August 7, 2008 11:22 AM | Report abuse

"Now, when I was a baby, Momma named me after the great Civil War hero, General Nathan Bedford Forrest...Momma said that the Forrest part was to remind me that sometimes we all do things that, well, just don't make no sense."

Posted by: Anonymous | August 7, 2008 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Nikki Tinker's is a fraud. I had the opporunity to meet her and her mother and I just want to say that I found her mother more interesting, engaging, and honest than Nikki presented herself. At that moment I thought Nikki has a better chance of succeeding here if she had her mother run for the seat and then later run on name recognition.

She came off as arrogant, self serving and rude. Furthermore, the whole angry, black woman routine is an old song that I am tired of hearing. She needs to do some soul searching and figure out why she really wants this seat because right now I do not think her intent is to serve the people.

Posted by: TB | August 7, 2008 11:26 AM | Report abuse

I find it amazing that some of the posters here are making the such a generalizing racist claim that 'all blacks use the race card'. Such a claim is no better than saying 'all blacks love chicken' or 'all whites are racist' or any ther stereotypes. I do not agree with Mrs Tinker and how she is running her race, but commentary from many of the posters here gives at least moderate creedence to her cautiousness about white voters and representatives.

Posted by: anon80 | August 7, 2008 11:30 AM | Report abuse

Screaming racism is one of the first tactical steps of minorities when they aren't getting their way. Their way is typically at the expense of everyone else, including some of their own.

Posted by: Natural Born American | August 7, 2008 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Armenians got what they deserved. What you did amounts to treason, while Ottomans was fighting against communist Russia, you sided with the Russians in WW1. Then it was not enough so you decided to side with the Nazi's during WW2 and fought against the Allies and transported Russian, Georgian and Ukrainian Jews to them. One of your national heroes that has so many statues in Armenia is a Nazi commander. Learn your own history, Turkey did not exist until 1923 and you blame Turkey for some killings in 1916

Posted by: The Turk | August 7, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

I agree with Josh's opinon about the claim of being "African American." If you are born and raised in this country, you are American. Regardless of color,or religion.If you were born and raised in another country and became an American citizen you are American.Almost everyone of us have hailed from another country (excluding American Indian) but we don't refer to ourselves as Polish American, Italian American, German American, etc. Arkie was also right when he said when our government, and college applications etc.stops using forms that we fill out. What difference would that make if we are all judged on our own accomplishments, not our skin color or religion.

Posted by: Cathy | August 7, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

There is no such thing as an African American if you were born in the USA. You are an American, cut and dried. If you cannot deal with it, leave and go to your chosen country of choice. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Posted by: Jethro | August 7, 2008 11:49 AM | Report abuse

To the person who claims there is 'no such things as an african american', tell that to the census, the seperate cultures, the statistically proven secondary legal status, seperate pay scale and seperate treatment from all many 'african americans' within this country. Sure everyone born in america is american, but not all americans are the same, and the definitely do not treat each other the same. Try going to northern ireland and explain to the locals that 'they are all the same irish' and see the response you get.

Posted by: Anon 80 | August 7, 2008 11:57 AM | Report abuse

I'm sick and tired of reading about apologizing for slavery and reparations for blacks. What a hypocritical farce of a welfare handout.

When are the B L A C K S going to apologize for selling all the negro slaves in the first place? Blacks were the slave suppliers for crying out loud.

How stupid are American politicians?

Do a little research people. Some of the largest slave owners and masters in America were black. They contracted their own people out as slaves. Why should everyone else apologize and pay for their criminal behavior?

Posted by: No Apology | August 7, 2008 11:57 AM | Report abuse

I only read the first few posts on this thread but it seems like the racism in pervading even this discourse. The problem is not that one group or another plays the race card or has played the race card for any number of years. The problem is feeling like we need this discussion at all. I'd like to think that the general populace is smart enough to see through racism and bigotry whatever the source and be disinclined to lend support even if it is "positive racism". Like supporting a candidate because he or she is your skin tone. I dislike people who can't keep "ask" and "axe" straight when the speak. But that is my right. If it bothers you then don't support me.... it should be that simple. Look at the individual for example, if they don't like mouth-breathers and say as much and you feel that it is wrong then don't support them. That is the American way. Wake up people! Institutional racism is dead and there are easy ways to prove it and legal ramification for those who practice it. But going around saying "Poor me racism is holding me back" while you go around beating people up, drop out of school and commit felonies doesn't make sense and there are too many people who think that they should get what hard working people get just because they exist and are entitled to it.

Posted by: Chuck | August 7, 2008 11:57 AM | Report abuse

Its not ridiculous to link a Jewish person with the KKK, as he will step on any group (including blacks), as long as it helps lift up the Jews one more step.

Posted by: NY111 | August 7, 2008 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Tinker and Obama are GHETTO TRASH!

Posted by: Roger | August 7, 2008 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Anyone who thinks institutional racism is dead is lying to their selves. If you are reading this article, you must have the internet, so do a search on racial profiling statistics, employment pay statistics, medical treatment statistics by race and incarceration rates by race for the same crimes.

Anyone who tells you it is easily provable by law knows nothing about the law. Ask a civil rights attorney or a womens/gay/immigrants rights attorney how 'easy' it is to prove discrimination in the modern american atmosphere.

Posted by: Anon80 | August 7, 2008 12:04 PM | Report abuse

OK, to all out there not getting the full force of the evil done through of 400 years of slavery, please do not buy a ticket to hell and downplay the horrors that occurred. In that time family and social structures of Africans were decimated, leaving one little to cope with.

Slavery ended in 1865, and civil rights were barely made so so in 1965, so from 1965 to 2008, not much time has passed. People living today still remember seperate but "equal" (ha!). So, considering all the evil horrific shiat done, I think Africans are doing the best they can (but still a long way to go for far too many though). And considering that a black man is the best choice for president now (McCain is good too, if you make more than $300,000 - $1,000,000 a year!), I think that is awesome!

Posted by: NY111 | August 7, 2008 12:11 PM | Report abuse

The bigotry esposed by Tinker is disgusting. If she wins, she will probably
represent all the elelments of the black community that try to promote hate and divisiveness. She should be seen as an embarrasment not as individual to support.

Posted by: Stan | August 7, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

It is clear there are either several questionable bigoted posts on thie board or one poster masquerading as several.

Posted by: Anon80 | August 7, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

When I post a comment, I try not to generalize, try not to reflect poorly on myself and those of similar religious, professional, and social affiliations, and realize that doing so may ensure that my argument or comment is not weakened by impulsivity, naivete, or foolishness.

How would promoting or speaking of the KKK by a Jewish person help the Jews? As was previously and correctly stated here, Jews were targeted by the KKK as well as other minorities who were deemed unAmerican or unpure.

If we Jews were so powerful, cunning, and the like, how does one explain the consistently unpleasant experiences we've had world-wide? Crusades. An Inquisition. Social club and academic quotas. The Holocaust - which did occur by the way.

Which step have we climbed? I'm not certain I understand.

Were you aware that Jews are not solely concerned with ourselves though also other groups?

We Jews have been involved in the founding of Civil Rights organizations, marched with Civil Rights Leaders, and helped with the move toward the growth of unions.
Pretty self-serving, don't you think?

Maybe educate yourself and consider your comments before making them, to avoid insulting others and weakening your own argument.

P.S. Jews are not perfect. However, people of whatever background NY111 are clearly not perfect either. Otherwise, he wouldn't endorse or defend what could very well be unsubstantiated gossip, untruths, and insinuations.

Posted by: Crazy4glf | August 7, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Anon80 | August 7, 2008 12:58 PM

"It is clear there are either several questionable bigoted posts on thie board or one poster masquerading as several."

You need to clean your own brush...

Posted by: Poster 501 | August 7, 2008 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Religion and race; #1 and #2 causes of stupidity in America and most of the world. This mixed-race atheist is just sick and tired of it. There is no god and Jesus is dead - get over it. You can have your school prayer when evolution is taught from the pulpits.

Posted by: Ed | August 7, 2008 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Typical democratic nastyness. Children without manners or morals. I am so discusted with the democrats. I will be switching to independent.

Posted by: Hillary2012 | August 7, 2008 1:18 PM | Report abuse

To Hillary2012

Good luck with that. Many Obamist would gladly prefer the hillacrats join up with Lieberman and McCain. The same people who spend 10+ years attacking Hillary as a strong woman and Lieberman as a jew are now the bossum buddies you run to when your candidate lost. Its time the democrats removed the last vestiges of the baby boomer republicrat era and and progressed on. Good luck in 2012.

Posted by: Anon80 | August 7, 2008 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Please CRY for the Poor little Cohen jew

Posted by: dk | August 7, 2008 2:00 PM | Report abuse

i think steve cohen has the done well for what he has done for memphis.tinker needs to grow up and start realizing that she needs to fight her cause on the issues and not take people to the gutter. the race card was all uncalled for.the religious issue was not neccessary.i am voting for people on there issues and there history in office. possibly the amount of time in fair not mean tactics.tinker hurt her self by playing the race card and the religious issue. cohen again in office good for us in memphis.

Posted by: carol | August 7, 2008 2:02 PM | Report abuse

This is pretty sad. As a Black man, I am shameful of Tinker's behavior. Notice that I did not call myself African American, for I have not, been to Africa. What's even more sad than her playing the race card as a last hope is the fact that there are people on here ignorant enough to generalize a group of people based on one person's poor judgement. I have White friends and even more specifically Jewish friends. I have experienced racism from Whites and from Jews but you cannot generalize people on the basis of a few ignorant people. Yes, there are Blacks who do play the race card, but you have to understand that Blacks have only recently been allowed to pick up a hand of cards and sit at the table. My people (both Black and Native American) have been treated terribly in this country by Whites. Now do I expect White people to apologize, no...they didn't do it and shouldn't have to. But they cannot act like it never happened either. Black people are in their current state because of hundreds of years of "unfair" treatment. As far as the race card, I've gotten to where I am in life because of my actions and credentials...not because of race. We as a people need to stick to the issues and not to the color of our skin. I don't live in Memphis nor have I ever visited there, but if Cohen is doing a good job, more power to him. Tinker just needs to calm down and think about why she lost to him in the first place. The average Black person doesn't want to deal with the political B.S. or mud-sliging...they just want someone in office that'll treat them fairly.

Posted by: Levi | August 7, 2008 2:02 PM | Report abuse

It would be good if those non-blacks representatives in predominantly black districts work hard to help blacks they purport to represent get out of their horrible predicaments (poverty, crime, drugs, and dependence on demeaning social programs). Instead, they are usually interested in making the dependency situation in these districts worse because they are mostly interested in promoting the very demeaning social programs from which they and their friends benefit at the expense of the poor black folks.

These representatives usually form alliances with the Black Church leaders in order to get black votes year after year. The only people who benefit from these unholy alliances are the church leaders and those representatives because those social programs are channeled through these very church leaders who deliver the black votes!


Posted by: akecg | August 7, 2008 2:04 PM | Report abuse

It would be good if those non-blacks representatives in predominantly black districts work hard to help blacks they purport to represent get out of their horrible predicaments (poverty, crime, drugs, and dependence on demeaning social programs). Instead, they are usually interested in making the dependency situation in these districts worse because they are mostly interested in promoting the very demeaning social programs from which they and their friends benefit at the expense of the poor black folks.

These representatives usually form alliances with the Black Church leaders in order to get black votes year after year. The only people who benefit from these unholy alliances are the church leaders and those representatives because those social programs are channeled through these very church leaders who deliver the black votes!


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Posted by: BOO-HOO | August 7, 2008 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Black people have been playing the race card for decades now. Even the super rich and celebrity blacks like Oprah, plays it. So I don't know why people are acting all surprised. Guilty racked white liberals have rewarded blacks over the years for playing the race card, so what incentives are there to stop now?

Posted by: Freedom Fighter | August 7, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

I find it amazing how there are no more than 2 posters constantly spewing masked racism on this discussion board with subliminal racist attacks (note how they all use the same CAPITOLIZATION, and half of them claim to be a black/mixed race/jewish/atheist/democratfill-in-the-blank-liberal-or-minority-group as a disclaimer).

To anyone who came to this discussion hoping to see a real discussion and not a 'I hate black people because they use the race card/they think slavery was bad/Tinker is a militant/Obama is half black/I love hillary/ etc, look elsewhere for reasonable discussion. The Race Trolls have defaced another intelligent discussion (as they tend to with any discussion related to any minority. As an 'undercover insider' at times, I know for a fact they leave their faux news/shamnity's America (purposely spelled wrong)/ Limblah Boards on search parties to find race related discussions and spew their hate under (above mentioned) if simply saying you are something over the internet means you are and it is provable.

Posted by: Anon80 | August 7, 2008 2:57 PM | Report abuse

I like turtles

Posted by: The Biggest Turd | August 7, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

I find it so amusing that negroes completely forget that it was BLACK tribal chiefs that sold them into slavery but WHITE people that fought and died for their freedom.

Negroes are by far the most racist group as whole that I have ever encountered.

Posted by: American History | August 7, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Hey The Biggest Turd, GO TERRAPINS!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Morris | August 7, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Okay that didn't make any sense. I should have actually read the article instead of the first sentence. Sorry.

Posted by: American History | August 7, 2008 3:43 PM | Report abuse

I think American History has a skewed perspective. There are currently close to half a million African Americans serving in the armed forces, protecting everyones liberty and freedom - thankfully those ideals aren't tied to race. The fact that you use the term negroes demonstrates how archaic your thinking is. Please come into this decade.

Posted by: TJ | August 7, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Race cards? Who cares? Politicians in general have a certain amount of greasiness, it's part of the job requirement. If it's black v. white, race card, man v. woman, gender, gay v. straight, orientation. It's a sucker game, and only suckers really get caught up in it.

As for Racism, sure it exists. Spend a night in any city jail and you'll learn about it. Look at neighborhoods where people are effectively segregated. You can't move people out of their homes, but you can recognize that barely a half century of so-called "equality" is bound to hold folks back. Instead of jail, real investment in education targeting the underprivileged would probably be more useful, whether they're Black, Latino, White, etc. Poor is poor. Poor on top of knowing your grandparents had to sit in the back of the bus sucks big time.

And as for Jews targeting blacks for racism. Tough noogies. Everyone dislikes everyone else for race. Most of the racist comments I've heard from jews center around getting ripped off by a black person. Which is pretty much what I hear in passing coming out the mouths of koreans, italians, and every other group. Doesn't make it right, doesn't mean it's not paid back in kind, or that these groups don't experience the same kind of enmity from one another (including Black people).

In other words people, get over it. We'll either get smarter or we won't (because this nonsense sure ain't smart). Hopefully the really hateful ones, whether black, jewish, catholic, asian, etc., don't pass their hatefulness onto their children. Or just as hopefully, those kids will be immune as greater opportunities avail themselves either through institutions or education.

Posted by: DKR | August 7, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

One other thing: Turkey? Armenia? Wasn't that a hundred years ago? Sure it was a genocide, but I wouldn't vote for it because it's a retarded thing to introduce in the first place on the congressional floor. What about Japanese Comfort Women, Communists killing White Russians, British Occupation of Egypt, Palestine and India, the smurfs and gargamel? Why don't we vote to condemn that? Where does this kind of nonsense come from?

Posted by: DKR | August 7, 2008 5:30 PM | Report abuse

I wish people would just wake up to the fact that i am smart. I post and post and I am just not getting the kind of feedback that I deserve. I have even gone so far as to make cute little rewording projects like Shamnity's America and Limblah... i guess that just went right over your heads. Well people, you better recognize and dont forget to vote liberal so that i can get more money when my welfare checks come in.

Posted by: Anon80 | August 7, 2008 8:33 PM | Report abuse

There goes my contribution to Emily's List. I want women who are qualified to serve in Congress. The advertisement was tasteless. Tinker deserves to lose.

Posted by: CarmanK | August 7, 2008 9:06 PM | Report abuse

Nikki Tinker's commercial and this article didn't fully explain the statue in question. It isn't simply a statue. The base is the burial crypt of Nathan Bedford Forrest and his wife. The issue wasn't just removing the statue but also the bodies buried beneath it.

Posted by: Native Memphian | August 7, 2008 9:44 PM | Report abuse

It's nice to know Tinker can sling mud with the best of them.

Posted by: Richard Ball | August 8, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Jews have a word for non-Jews: goyim. Whites have no such word for non-whites. Neither do blacks, Hispanics, Asians, etc. All of these groups have terms for the other groups, and terms for themselves. But only Jews have one blanket term for all non-Jews, roughly 99.9 percent of the global population.

Posted by: Jew | August 8, 2008 11:45 PM | Report abuse

If you don't think that blacks play the race card in the military mayby you should sign up and spend a year on any army installation in the U.S> and Germany also.I seen plenty of hateful blacks in both country's in the army.It's more prevailant in the U.S. bases though.They are rude and have no respect for the white females whatsoever for the most part.Of course you will never se or hear of this sort of thing in the news but it is there and it is reality.

Posted by: Charles Queen | August 9, 2008 7:32 PM | Report abuse


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