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Palin and McCain Share Enemies, Reformist Bent

If the old adage is true that "the enemy of my enemy is my friend," then John McCain and Sarah Palin may have been friends long before the Arizona senator picked the Alaska governor to be his running mate.

Three years ago next month, McCain joined with a few conservative Senate colleagues to suggest that $453 million that had been earmarked to build two bridges in Alaska -- including the infamous "Bridge to Nowhere" -- be redirected to rebuild infrastructure in hurricane-ravaged Louisiana. How did that idea go over with Alaska's congressional delegation?

"They can kiss my ear!" said Rep. Don Young (R-Alaska). "That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard." And Sen. Ted Stevens (R-Alaska) was equally incensed. ""I don't kid people," he said. "If the Senate decides to discriminate against our state . . . I will resign from this body."

The feud between McCain, who has crusaded against earmarks, and the two Alaska titans, who have made careers out of bringing federal money home, has long been in public view. As the Seattle Times put it in a 2006 profile of Stevens: "The enmity between Stevens and Sen. John McCain . . . is almost mythic on the Hill. A former aide to Stevens recalls being trapped in a Capitol elevator with the two men as they argued through four floors."

Fast-forward to today: Young is fighting for his political life after a primary contest this week that has yet to be resolved, and Stevens faces a corruption trial in September. Much of the Alaska GOP establishment has begun to turn away from both men, particularly Young. And that shift has been led by a woman who was barely known on the national stage until today -- Palin.

In less than two years in office, Palin has made cleaning up the Alaska Republican party -- which has been buffeted by a wide-ranging federal corruption investigation -- into a top priority. In the process, she has angered many in the state's old-guard. In a particularly brash move, Palin earlier this year put out the equivalent of a political hit on Young, who has served as the state's lone House member for 35 years, by encouraging Lt. Gov. Sean Parnell to jump into the GOP primary against the incumbent.

Palin has been a bit more circumspect about criticizing Stevens, but she has made clear her desire for the state, and her party, to wipe the slate clean.

In an interview with CNBC a few weeks ago, Palin was asked about her efforts to root out corruption in the GOP. She said: "You're absolutely right on the cleansing that's needed in our party, in the Republican Party. And you know I think Senator McCain is on the right track with the earmark reform that he is so adamant about. I'm right there with him."

Now she's right there with him on the campaign trail for the White House. And based on their shared reformist bent and their choice of political foes, she's really been there with him all along.

UPDATE 1:45 PM: First, it's worth noting that McCain specifically praised Palin for her work in scotching the "Bridge to Nowhere" in his statement announcing his choice.

Second, from the Department of Unwanted Endorsements comes this: Stevens (awaiting trial on corruption charges, remember) has "strongly endorsed" McCain's pick of Palin. Full statement from Stevens is after the jump.

Press Release

For Immediate Release

August 29, 2008


Stevens Strongly Endorses Governor Palin

As Vice Presidential Candidate


Senator Ted Stevens (R-Alaska) today applauded Senator John McCain's selection of Alaska Governor Sarah Palin as his Vice Presidential running mate on the Republican ticket.

Senator Stevens said: "It's a great day for the nation and Alaskans. Governor Palin has proven herself as a bright, energetic leader for our State and will bring the same energy to the Vice Presidency. She will serve our country with distinction - the first Alaskan and first woman on the Republican ticket. I share in the pride of all Alaskans.

"I have known and worked with Sarah for over a decade - from her service as Mayor of Wasilla, Alaska, in her role as president of the Alaska Conference of Mayors, and most recently as our Governor. She is attentive to her job and family, brings people together, and is able to make tough decisions.

"Governor Palin's knowledge of energy issues will be critical as she and Senator McCain begin their path toward the White House. It is now clear: there is only one presidential ticket, McCain-Palin, that can and will deliver a comprehensive energy plan - one that will include development of Alaska's resources and reducing our dependence on foreign oil."

Upon learning of Senator McCain's selection, Senator Stevens offered his congratulations and support to Governor Palin and her family.

By Ben Pershing  |  August 29, 2008; 11:05 AM ET
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...And what item in the article above qualifies her to be a heartbeat away from the presidency?

Posted by: Dahagg | August 29, 2008 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Although I'm a staunch Obama supporter, I think this is a good pick for McCain. More like the old Senator McCain, who I admire but disagree with, than Candidate McCain and his Bushie staffers, who I was growing to disrespect. Looking forward to a lively but above board campaign.

Posted by: Mike J | August 29, 2008 11:56 AM | Report abuse

It certainly opens contrasts. Old guard Biden with lobbyists in his rolodex galore vs. Palin fighting on the Teddy Roosevelt reform plank.

This election certainly is giving us a lot to ponder.

Posted by: Andrew | August 29, 2008 11:57 AM | Report abuse

An unknown with such little experience in government is a bad choice as V.P. Remember, the V.P. is a "heartbeat" away from the presidency. Very risky choice.

Posted by: Audrey | August 29, 2008 11:57 AM | Report abuse

Is it true that she used her power as governor to try to get her sister's ex-husband fired from his State Trooper's job?

Posted by: Steve | August 29, 2008 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Kudos to Senator McCain for an inspiring pick. I won't be voting for him, but I'm proud to be an American today. Just think - no matter what, the first African-American president or the first female VP! And she looks to be a genuine reformer, just like McCain. If the Republican Party can really clean up its act, they might be able to win me back as a voter, and that's something I thought I'd never say. Any good ideas the party seem to have gotten completely lost in corruption - but McCain/Palin is a great first step to cleaning up the party and the nation.

I'll be happy no matter who wins in November.

Posted by: seren | August 29, 2008 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin's husband works for BP. Don't worry about a dearth of lobbyists in McCain-Palin's rolodex. They can just yell to the next room where the lobbyists are all running McCain's campaign.

Posted by: Cal | August 29, 2008 12:04 PM | Report abuse

I'm not sure which position makes her more qualified for the presidency: her whopping 2 years as governor of Alaska, or maybe all the wealth of experience she's gained as a commercial fishing company owner, outdoor recreational equipment company owner and sports reporter? What exactly qualifies her to be a VP? Coming in 2nd place as Miss Alaska?

Posted by: Amber W | August 29, 2008 12:04 PM | Report abuse

I agree with Audrey. Furthermore, any animal lover worth their salt is probably horrified at this nomination, as she supported and promoted the legislation to continue aerial slaughter of the wolves in Alaska.

Posted by: Ruth | August 29, 2008 12:04 PM | Report abuse

No one doubts the republican party needs to be cleaned up and I hope McCain and Palin continue this effort after November. They both seem to be committed to this sorely needed effort.

But picking a running mate with 2 years experience in government (sorry, I don't consider being on a city council to be "experience" for a national leader) is just not going to go over well when McCain argues that Obama is too inexperienced for the job.

I don't see Palin adding anything to the ticket except an extra X chromosome. It seems to be a obvious play to get those who were going to vote for Clinton just because she was a female. McCain will be surprised when Palin fails to pick up those voters because they never existed. People were for Clinton because she had the experience and the vision.

Palin's only vision seems to be to clean up the republican party. I wish her luck in that, but it will not help this nation nor will it leave us with an effective leader should 72 year old McCain no longer be able to act as president. Overall a bad choice for VP.

And I can hear the groans coming from Capital Hill's republican side already. It will be interesting to see which republicans step up and applaud this nomination.

But I hope to see more of her as her public career grows over the years. What this probably does is send a message to all republicans that things are going to change, that McCain intends to clean up the party and has elevated Palin to a level where she can contribute more. In other words, the neocons are out and will be pushed out if neceaasry, and cronyism and selfishness will not be tolerated when it affects the party, as it has under Bush/Cheney.

Posted by: Fate | August 29, 2008 12:05 PM | Report abuse

If you can't use your position of governor to punish your personal enemies, what good is being governor?

Posted by: Jim | August 29, 2008 12:05 PM | Report abuse

Considering McCain's age, a considerably more experienced person would have been much more desirable as the GOP VP pick. Palin's selection should be viewed as an indication of how flawed the pool of GOP VP selectees was. That McCain chose a person with the thinnest resume reveals just how fractured the Republican party is.

Posted by: Patrick DeBurgh | August 29, 2008 12:08 PM | Report abuse

Amber W stop your lying. She has not been Governor of Alaska for two years...just 18 months! ;)

What a shame that McCain is so attention-starved that he decided that getting a day's worth of news coverage was more important than finding someone who could step in for a 72 year-old cancer victim.

Gimmicks over Country.

Posted by: Stav | August 29, 2008 12:12 PM | Report abuse

It's interesting that John McCain, s purported admirer of Theodore Roosevelt -- the penultimate conservationist-- should choose as his VP a person who supports drilling in the pristine Alaska wilderness.

Posted by: a concerned citizen | August 29, 2008 12:12 PM | Report abuse

re: Dahagg....I think she was a "community organizer" once.

Posted by: Brad | August 29, 2008 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Seems like more typical McCain pandering.

Posted by: guitaristo | August 29, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Yes but guess who is married to an oil exec Gee could it Sarah Palin. BP oil Exec.
Pallin got the pipeline approved from Canada yo Alska wgich is good but influenced? you decide I report.Same old nothing changes.

Posted by: mikeb47 | August 29, 2008 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Maverick or suicidal ? How could McCain think choosing inexperienced Palin could get the vote of independents or middle of the roaders who were on the fence ? Will the ultra conservatives, who will love the viewpoints of Palin, think that her experience qualifies her to be a heart beat away from a 72 year old President who has had reoccurring serious skin cancer ? I would not take that chance.

Posted by: Judy | August 29, 2008 12:20 PM | Report abuse

Way too conservative, has all the failed right wing views and morals.

Posted by: Michael | August 29, 2008 12:20 PM | Report abuse

The McCain theory seems to be:
The only reason people would vote for Hillary is because she is a woman. Ergo, If I out a woman on my ticket they will all vote for me - silly little things.
It is sexist and patronizing and transparent. Biggest goof since Mike Dukakis climbed into the tank.

Posted by: Pragmatist | August 29, 2008 12:21 PM | Report abuse

...I haven't laughed this loudly since Rudi Guiliani talked on Frauds News on the so called off shore drilling by CHINA on the coast of Cuba....which was a FRAUD also

Five reasons why Sarah Palin is a laugh-out
loud ridiculious choice!!!

Seriously? Sarah Palin for VP? It's one thing for millions of voters to put forward a sitting senator as a possible commander in chief, but for John McCaint
to hand-pick a first-term governor of a tiny state is bizarre.

Here are five reasons why, if she is the pick, this is a huge mistake:

1. There goes McCain's best argument.

He cannot say Obama is not ready but she is. Obama started organizing his campaign for president the same month she was sworn in to lead the third-smallest state's government.

2. She has no base of support.

Obama won his senate seat with 3,597,456 votes, that's more than five times the population of Alaska. He has won more than 18 million votes in a long, tough primary that tested him and prepared him.

How has she been tested?

She lost her first bid for statewide office, then won the governor's office with 114,697 votes, not a majority, but enough to take office.

And apparently, enough to set her up for the Oval Office.

3. The "woman card" will backfire.

She's no Hillary Clinton..none of the MEN
in the RNC/GOP lie machine could have come
as well it would be different if she were known to anyone or qualified or something.

4. Alaska, a corrupt hinterland.

Yes, she is a hard-nosed, tough reformer. But the McCaint campaign will have to deal with the fact that Alaska seems like a foreign land as corrupt as Louisiana.

It's longtime senator will stand trial smack dab in the middle of this campaign season, and McCaint may have to vote to remove him from office.

Yes, they can spin it that she is someone cleaning up the mess up there, but what Americans realize is that they don't know much about what goes on up there. Will they be comfortable with her?

5. Was this McCaints choice?

It seems clear that McCaintwanted to go with Lieberman but was talked out of it by the right wing of his party. Rove admits calling Lieberman to ask him to pull his name out. Bush lost his way because he never stood up to Rove et. al.

McCaint' once again is headed down the same path to ruin and political suicide

....So McCaint wanted a VP with nothing to add but an ample bosom...how laughable.....and sorely pathetic

McCaint..."The candidate does not speak for the Campaign...."

And what about this.....

So Palin once again bows to the Alaska Outdoors Council which is so worried it might not have enough Alaskan wildlife to kill for trophies, eh?

The federal biologists have shown the polar bears are in trouble.

Alaska state biologists have warned they are in trouble. Even the Natives along the Northern Coastal Plain have noted how things are getting worse for the polar bears.

But, like Palin, there are commenters in this discussion who are willing to sell Alaska down the drain for a few oil-soaked dollars. I can see the true VECO mentality (?) is alive and well and can be found here in their comments.

Palin allows airborne killing of wolves and bears, wants polar bears to remain huntable for trophies, and has generally shown she is even worse than Murkowski could ever have been when it comes to selling out our wildlife to the highest bidder.

...Well if Dick (Satan) Cheney Bush2's VP can kill small fowl from his limousine and shoot other hunters in the face ...great choice McCaint ...a great choice.....

And I guess its all true that McCaint wants .....another VP that can shoot from flying airplanes heliocopters and other flying dirigibles (balloons)......

"This stinks...RNC/GOP need to take a laxative or a HI Colonic and get that waste out of their sickly bodies its starting to affct thier brains in the same area that they keep their crap in storage...

"The Candidate does not speak for the Campaign...."

Posted by: AlexP1 | August 29, 2008 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Palin's background as a reformer is definitely a plus, but it fails to negate her record as a lifestyle conservative. You know, the people who want to tell us all how to run our sex lives. She seems like a bright young lady, but no thanks.

Posted by: Viejita del oeste | August 29, 2008 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Will be an footnote in the history books as a failed candidate for the Vice-Presidency. Honestly, makes Dan Quayle look like a statesman.

Posted by: Loudoun Moderate | August 29, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Hi, this is our national passenger railroad speaking. I carry more than 25 million passengers a year, and am thus NOT a Bridge to Nowhere. John McCain has attempted to put me on an air diet in recent years, citing my flabbiness in the long-distance lines. Well, yeah, there are some inefficiencies on my long distance lines, but I have been getting my act together, and I could do much better had I more money to build infrastructure to bypass freight rail lines that slow me down and delay my trains, more money to build innovative and attractive rolling stock, more money to hire efficient conductors. As for the Bridge to Nowhere? It should've been edited to make it a tourist attraction and a destination in its own right. Remember the Rialto? Well, why not make it a super-Rialto or super-London Bridge? A habitable bridge from which one could see much scenery. Anything can probably be improved by spending money wisely and thinking out of the box.

Sincerely,
Amtrak

Posted by: Amtrak | August 29, 2008 12:24 PM | Report abuse

I'm laughing at the "heartbeat away" argument from the Dems on here. What makes it so very funny is their argument questioning how anyone with so little service could be a heartbeat away from the Presidency, when the Democratic candidate is probably the most inexperienced nominee in history.

Posted by: ygbrown2001 | August 29, 2008 12:24 PM | Report abuse

You can buff and polish a turd as long and hard as you want, but despite all of your hard work you are still left with a turd.

Alaska politics are filthy and corrupt. And this is the nomination is coming from the guy that says he's a Maverick. He just pandered to right wing anti-choice idealogues.

Posted by: Alaska is a cesspool of corruption | August 29, 2008 12:25 PM | Report abuse

I am sorry but if McCain becomen incapacitated, I would not want this woman to become my President.
The GOP will try anything to win is what I view her selection as being and I do hope the American people will see it for what it is.

Posted by: Sharon | August 29, 2008 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Admittedly, I personalized "Amtrak", but it might have been what the railroad would have said were it a person.

Posted by: Ricky | August 29, 2008 12:26 PM | Report abuse

I can't believe you people question her experience. At least she has 2 years experience in the Executive branch of a state - she has actually governed! Obama has NO executive eperience! What do you think qualifies him to be PRESIDENT?

Posted by: Rhea | August 29, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

She has more experience than the Democrat nominee for president...I love this pick and I suspect the convservative base as well as many independetns will as well. The howling you hear from other commenters is them watching a "sure thing" election being flushed down the toilet.

Posted by: Jeremy | August 29, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

"Yes but guess who is married to an oil exec Gee could it Sarah Palin. BP oil Exec"

Her husband works for BP on the North Slope as a production guy. He's not a BP exec.

Posted by: Anndandale | August 29, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

I don't mind inexperienced politicians. Bring it on, folks! A fresh pol is a fresh voice! So what if Obama is "not ready to be President". Neither is Palin and neither is McCain.... feh, since someone who isn't really ready is going to have the Presidency dumped on him anyway, and since Senators are all cozy with one another anyhow, we might as well flip a coin, we'd get similar results.

Posted by: Ricky | August 29, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Let's see...in the last 40 years how many Governors became President of the United States? Carter, Reagan, Clinton and Bush! Not a bad choice of candidates. At least she knows how to run a state unlike the current Democtatic nominee for President who has been active in the United States Senate for what, 143 days??? Two years as Governor vs +/- five (5) months - you figure the math and experience.

Posted by: Dan | August 29, 2008 12:31 PM | Report abuse

Oops....I think McCain just made a very, very bad choice. Considering his age, if this ticket is elected, she could conceivably easily end up being President. And she has no experience whatsovever. Zip. Zero. Wow, what a mistake!

Posted by: carolinian | August 29, 2008 12:32 PM | Report abuse

A Republican, is a republican, is a republican. I don't care what your race,
sex, religion, or background is. Either
you espouse values that will bring our country back to greatness and give the
working class, the true backbone of our country, a chance to flourish, or you don't. Three Repubs in the 20s, Harding, Coolidge, and Hoover, gave us the great
depression with pretyy much the same thing that Bush has given us the last 2 terms. It is pretty hard for the Dems to begin to turn this country around with a majority of just 1, when bush keeps vetoing everything and the Repubs back him up. As far as the Dems being strong on defense.
WW I, Wilson.My grandfather fought in that one. WW II, FDR, my father in that one. Korea, Truman, my Uncle in that one. Vietnam, my turn. And when we did pull out, who was in charge? Nixon. Wake up America. You want another great Depression?
We have a good start! GO Obama and Biden!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 12:32 PM | Report abuse

This pick undercuts the argument that McCain= Bush.

Posted by: psm75 | August 29, 2008 12:34 PM | Report abuse

Well done, McCain. Dixieland has now been shut out at the helm for the first time in a good long while.

Obama - Chicago
Biden - Delaware
McCain - Arizona
Palin - Alaska

not a single Old Confederate Heartland or "Southern" state in there!

Posted by: Ricky | August 29, 2008 12:36 PM | Report abuse

McCain just lost my vote, and many other lifelong Democrates that were going to vote for him. Lieberman or Ridge were better choices.

Posted by: Joe | August 29, 2008 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Looks like I'll be writing in the Paul-Paul ticket(Ron & Ru) after all.

Posted by: Molly B. | August 29, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

My god, Sarah Palin is extremely good looking and sexy.

Posted by: gary | August 29, 2008 12:40 PM | Report abuse

I was ambivalent about McCain and unimpressed with the lack of actual accomplishments of Obama, and really turned off by the spotty history and verbosity of Biden...and I love this pick. Not only can I say I will vote for it, but I am thinking of getting actively involved in working for McCain-Palin. I could never get motivated by the whole breaking the glass ceiling thing before because the women involved were so personally unappealing to me. I am incredibly impressed with the experience and character and down to earth no-nonsense style that Palin will bring to the McCain ticket and hopefully to the next administration.

You know, we all have a right to our opinions. I sometimes wonder if those of you who rant and rave and call names realize that most of us jump right over your posts in search of those that are actually thoughtful contributions.

Posted by: AHockeyMom | August 29, 2008 12:42 PM | Report abuse

I love you guys, you all rip on Palin as being too inexperienced with only 2 years as Alaska Governor, but Obama is just the bee's knees to be not a heart beat away from, but the actual President with his whooping two years as Junior Senator from Illinois...

Good times.

Posted by: LoveIt | August 29, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

It is funny how Senator McCain and several of his surrogates to include Karl Rove, charged that if Senator Obama was to pick the likes of Kansas Governor Kathleen Sebeillus or Virginia Governor Tim Kaine, it would not be because he is choosing a person who could govern but more of strategy to win/swing a state to win the election. Hasn't John McCain just did that, not saying Governor Palin is incapable but, this is PURELY a choice to ATTEMPT to win the disgruntled Senator Clinton women over. He, John McCain, has done what he and his surrogates were accusing Senator Obama of. Again, this is the hypocrisy of John McCain, and of course, people fall for it.

Posted by: CitizenAJ | August 29, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse

McCain just demolished the two months of arguments he made against Obama. Inexperienced? Palin is just as inexperienced. Celebrity? Palin was Miss No.2 Alaska. Putting America first? McCain came off as pandering to Hillary voters, who wouldn't probably be that enthusiastic about a VP that has the exact opposite platform of Hillary. The only votes that McCain could get are the first-impression voters who aren't already in Obama's camp, and who would be enthusiastic about a woman VP. And they don't exist.

Posted by: Herunar | August 29, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Let's see what all the bashers are saying when she bodyslams that crusty old liberal Joe Biden, hair plugs and all.

Posted by: Brian | August 29, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse

In response to some of the comments above, no, the problem is not that Palin is inexperienced. It's that McCain has been calling Obama inexperienced for half a year and he has just chosen an even less experienced vice president candidate. That's called hypocrisy.

Posted by: Herunar | August 29, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Hey Lovelt,

Keep in mind that former Governor, now former President was a year younger than Senator Obama when he won the Presidency in 1992. Look, Senator Clinton and the republicans made a BIG DEAL about experience during this campaign. Don't get upset now that Senator McCain decided to pick a "strategic" choice who can be labeled "inexperience" also.

Posted by: CitizenAJ | August 29, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

It just keeps getting better and better for the dems. Last night, we saw a tremendous speech that will go down as one of the best acceptance speeches in our history. The party is unifying. And McCain seems to want to help the dems through all this. What a Great Day!

However, we mustn't forget that there is a lot of cleaning up to do in Jan. The despicable lying, corrupt, criminal administration of the past 8 yrs has done severe damage to this country and this world. We must stay focused and united if are to restore prominence to America.

What a great day! Enjoy this everybody, but stay focused because a wounded dog is dangerous.

Posted by: TruePatriot | August 29, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for a good laugh with all the Obamabots complaining about Sarah's lack of experience. She and her husband have run a business and she has cleaned up local and state government. I've just been watching her on TV and she looks tough enough to retire Biden. We will see what he thinks of his chances when we see if he runs for his Senate seat again. Thanks again for a good laugh.

Posted by: Mike K | August 29, 2008 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Okay, so 2+ years ago she was a mayor in a small Alaskan town. Wasn't Sen. Obama merely an alderman less than five years ago? At least she has executive experience and the guts to make waves cleaning up a moderately soiled Alaskan GOP. I don't see the same testicular fortitude at the top of the donkey ticket.

Posted by: Culpepper, VA | August 29, 2008 12:52 PM | Report abuse

I was hoping he would pick Reille Hunter.

Posted by: Tog Murray | August 29, 2008 12:53 PM | Report abuse

McCain's judgement says it all - a pathetic, political decision and a bad one at that.

Posted by: Garden Stater | August 29, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

I won't be voting for McCain under any circumstances, but I have to give him credit for picking the one Republican I can think of who has the potential to contribute to rebuilding a party left in ruins by the Bush/Cheney/Rove disaster.

Of course, there are many caveats.

I do not respect Palin's environmental positions, and it is obvious McCain has lost any authority he may have had to claim experience as a prerequisite to the national ticket.

Much, much more could and will be said, both positively and negatively, about Palin. To give her credit, she is a reformer, but to think any Hillary Clinton supporter would gravitate to the Republican ticket because of Palin's gender is wishful thinking. The only thing Clinton and Palin share is the fact that they are both female, and that is the thinnest reason for voting for anyone that I can think of.

The Obama candidacy, after all, is about transcending the old barriers of race and gender and maybe even sexual orientation.

Still, an interesting pick. I would probably like Sarah Palin as a person. She seems interesting, intelligent and unafraid to take unpopular positions. Kudos to her for that.

That said, from what I know of her politics, she brings a huge contrast to Obama/Biden, and not in very many good ways.

Her marriage to a First American is interracial, irrelevant as far as I'm concerned, but momentous in a party that has for so long been stereotypically perceived as a club for gray-haired Caucasian men.

It seems to me that Palin's presence can only further the historic nature of the 2008 presidential race. There is now no doubt we are at a great and absolutely essential new beginning in American politics. That gives me great hope.

I look forward to learning more about Palin. But from what I already know, I fail to see how she really helps the Republicans much in this race.

I congratulate McCain on an intriguing choice, and I am proud to see a woman on the Republican ticket. We can never have enough diversity.

But that will have no effect on my vote for Obama/Biden, and I doubt it will affect the votes of enough people to make much of a difference in the end.

Posted by: georgiademocratguy | August 29, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Dear CitizenAJ,

I am assuming McCain has zero intentions of dying in office any how, but that being said, if he does I am sure he can hammer out more than the 30 days Harrison gave us and further season her in the wings, she won't be the show unless McCain dies, so every day she waits is further ability gained with no harm done to us the citizenry.

Obama on the other hand will impact immediately also with his zero experience. The VP can be looked at several ways, as a Cheney or Biden pick of partner/parent like pick for the inexperienced or as more as a emphasis of a platform and as a person to be mentored up and prepared for more, Palin is clearly the latter. If McCain is elected and is successful in office, the coup de grace comes as Palin swoops in as the dynamic, attractive woman who can take control in midstream without losing a step.

Don't be foolish and childish, you know that to attack this as a weak pick emphasizes that Obama is a weak pick and for the main show, not as the stand in.

Posted by: LoveIt | August 29, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

The same that makes Obama eligible; and I am a black democrat!

Posted by: A August | August 29, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

An unknown with such little experience in government is a bad choice as V.P.
Posted by: Audrey
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CORRECTION:
An unknown with such little experience in government is a bad choice as a candidate for the POTUS.

Posted by: Jack Straw | August 29, 2008 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Sarah was always my hope for the VP pick. She and McCain are poised to really fix what is broken in Washington, while at the same time growing the economy and protecting Americans.

Posted by: gmcc | August 29, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

I would have picked Lindsay Lohan, but Sarah Palin would have been my runner up. She's pretty enough to be a porn star.

Posted by: hamishdad | August 29, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Today, John McCain put the former mayor of a town of 9,000 with zero foreign policy experience a heartbeat away from the presidency. Governor Palin shares John McCain's commitment to overturning Roe v. Wade, the agenda of Big Oil and continuing George Bush's failed economic policies -- that's not the change we need, it's just more of the same.

Posted by: Mobama | August 29, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

This pick undercuts the idea that McCain is the same as Bush?

Does it somehow nullify the FACT that McCain voted IN AGREEMENT with George W. Bush NINETY PERCENT (90%) of the time?
NINE TIMES OUT OF TEN - "I agree with you".

NINETY PERCENT? That's a "maverick"? No - That's MCSAME.
ENOUGH.

Posted by: Tomhere | August 29, 2008 12:57 PM | Report abuse

John McCain has just sealed the deal and chosen Alaska Governor Sarah Palin as his VP. This just sickens me.

This is his best decision? Politically, he has chosen to turn the race into an ideological campaign. He is going to run right wind against liberal. To do this his has pacified the far right base by picking the most socially conservative person he could pick.

He has picked someone with so little experience that it nullifies any argument against against Obama. He has picked a woman who just cannot compete as a comparable for Hillary Clinton. This is the worst kind of "Hail Mary" pass and it won't work.

For my part, McCain has completely let me down. He has sold out to the right wing and secured my complete disillusionment with The Republican party. There is no openness. There is no diversity. There is no respect. It is just God, Guns, Gays and terrorism. I am holding my nose and voting for Obama.

Posted by: boredboi dotcom | August 29, 2008 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Sarah's term as Mayor alone give her more executive experience than Obama and Biden put together, never mind her proven record as an effective reform minded Governor in Alaska for the past two years.

Posted by: Michael Patterson | August 29, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

she's got more executive experience in her beautiful finger than obama has in his whole body

Posted by: Mike | August 29, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Nice try, McCain. This was all you needed to do to push me into the Obama camp!

This obvious ploy to try and draw women and disgruntled Clinton supporter is so transparant a two year old could see through it.

You picked a person as VP candidate who has even less experience than Obama. Now you can eat crow when that is thrown back in your face.

Good going, idiot. I'm sure Obama would like to personally thank you for my vote.

Posted by: Marty | August 29, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

wow. Almost every comment here is filled with ignorance and insults.

Why do people jump to conclusions before even attempting to educate themselves about what they're talking about?

Clearly, none of you have even read the comment rules right above the comment box here.


Idiots.

Posted by: mike | August 29, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

I believe Herunar has completely missed on his points.

I've always thought the accurate criticism of Obama was that he does not have a resume with the kind of experience that shows he will be effective in an executive type role, as the Presidency is the ultimate executive position. Palin does in fact have short but very successful experience in exactly that kind of role, as mayor and governor. Senators do not get tested in the same ways.

I thought the celebrity label that McCain painted on Obama was about the way he and his campaign have been portraying him in his candidacy. The fact that Palin won a beauty contest years ago is completely unrelated. Few people know much about her - she's certainly no celebrity yet. I expect she will be promoted on her serious record of accomplishments, something that Obama does not have.

Personally, I would never have been a Hillary voter, so I can't say whether a Hillary voter would switch their votes to McCain-Palin. Frankly, I doubt it. Nor can I assume this is intentional pandering...my first reaction was "Wow, what an amazing person Palin is!" Funny though, I am probably exactly one of the "first-impression voters who aren't already in Obama's camp", and I am enthusiastic over this woman as VP pick...so, Herunar, at least one of us does in fact exist!

I hope others see this VP choice the way I see it - as the rising of someone who will likely be great for the future of the country.

Posted by: AHockeyMom | August 29, 2008 1:00 PM | Report abuse

They know they're going to lose, otherwise they would've picked Romney. No loser VP has ever come back to win the presidency. This is all PR from a desperate candidate of a desperate party.

Posted by: thebob.bob | August 29, 2008 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Obama/Biden, Al Gore, Bill Richardson, Susan Eisenhower and 80,000 supporters energized and inspired us watching them on TV. Yes we Can!

Democrats and Obamacans courting all Republican and Independent voters -

The Chantay's - Pipeline (Lawrence Welk Show)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j09C8clJaXo

Dean Martin & John Wayne
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sd5xBDdG9UI

Elvis Presley - Love Me Tender
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZBUb0ElnNY

Matthew 7:7

Obamacan's - “The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry.” William F. Buckley, Jr. quote

Vote Obama/Biden '08

Posted by: Yei Raven | August 29, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

It's going to be so fun seeing all the Obama supporters say Palin doesn't have enough experience to be vice president. The democratic party is the biggest group of hippocrytes on the planet.

Posted by: Greg | August 29, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

It appears that when Obama chose Biden the question was how he would effect change with a VP from the old guard. However when McCain chooses a relative newcomer whose past actions demonstrate that she is ready to get the job done it is viewed negatively and the question is why he didnt pick someone with more experience.

Posted by: mendelz | August 29, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

And what qualifies Obama to be Commander in Chief?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Republicans are high if they think that Palin will appeal to disgruntled Hillary supporters simply because she is a woman. Her strong Pro-Life position will alienate some centerist women Republicans, and definitely will not recruit Democrats.

A dangerous pick for McCain, but given the dearth of talent in the Republican party, he didn't have many options. Palin moves the ticket to the Right, and that will cost McCain the center he presently straddles.

Posted by: km | August 29, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

So how does that fair for a potential first "executive decision?!"

Seems "Pale-in" comparison to the opposition. George McCain may still have some tricks up his sleeve, but substantive change and real reform over gender would have been a better criteria. Nothing like watching an old man pandering to women.

Also like choosing a VP from Siberia...I guess he's subscribed to the VP as a non-factor. Supposedly if the choice doesn't hurt you, it helps. Guess we'll have to wait and see.

Posted by: Don Julio | August 29, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

She is untried, too new in her job as governor to be certain of any degree of success. She has cut needed services from the budget. She has been under investigation for misuse of her office related to possible attempts to have a former brother-in-law fired from the state highway patrol. She is political arm candy.

Posted by: N from Alaska | August 29, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

This was a poor pick from the McCain campaign. I can't believe how desperate he is!!! He won't win, BUT if he did I would not feel safe having her as President!! She needs to go back to Alaska, and take care of her kids. Biden is going to rip her to shreds during their debate. OBAMA/BIDEN 2008

Posted by: Aminah | August 29, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

McSame... wow thats really buying into that propaganda the obama campaign are experts at. its because of Mccain that we are winning the war; Obama couldn't even vote up or down for the war because he wasn't senator

and his experience... not even 2 years experience as a Jr senator

palin owns

Posted by: Mike | August 29, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

You know what gets me? People who question her "inexperience" and then hail Obama. Do you know he couldn't even get a ticket to the 2000DNC ?? Puhleeze, people!

Posted by: EAB | August 29, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

I would guess that anyone who will vote for McCain also voted (twice?) for Bush/Cheney.
Well, the results of your "judgement" speak for themselves.
This is NOT going to be pretty.

Posted by: Tomhere | August 29, 2008 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Wow. We thought McCain and his advisors were out of touch with women. Now we know it. In an attempt to win women's votes, he's picked a former beauty queen with practically no experience, who wants to overturn Roe v. Wade.
This proves how little his campaign understands about the women of this country, now. Give us a Rhodes Scholar with a real track record of accomplishments instead of insulting our intelligence yet again.

Posted by: Faye | August 29, 2008 1:04 PM | Report abuse

What a ridiculous choice!

We're going to put a 1 and a half year serving governor a heartbeat from the presidency with a 72 yr old man???

Does anyone remember there's a war going on?

YIKES!

Posted by: jds | August 29, 2008 1:04 PM | Report abuse

bring it on libs

Posted by: Mccain/Palin 2008 | August 29, 2008 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Looks like the Obamites are out in full force LOL

Keep drinking the cool-aid...suckers.

McCain / Palin .... what a ticket.

P.U.M.A.
Registered democrat fro McCain / Palin :)

Posted by: AsBee | August 29, 2008 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Well he complained Obama wasn't ready to lead now he picks a pageant girl with no experience. I can't wait to see the GOP defend this. As old as he he needs a firm second in command. Should have picked Romney.

Posted by: Mike Smith | August 29, 2008 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Dahagg- and what qualifies Obama to be President?

O yes... not much.

Posted by: Jules | August 29, 2008 1:05 PM | Report abuse

What do you mean she has no experience? PTA! Miss Alaska runner-up! Hey, I doubt whether Joe Biden can match up to that!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Hillary will 100% be the Secretary of State. McCain underestimates American women.

Posted by: haha | August 29, 2008 1:06 PM | Report abuse

I was a waivering on McCain/Obama and am a staunch Hillary supporter. This has swayed me to McCain. I think it was a bold move on his part and after reading a little about her history as a reformer and someone willing to take on the horrible corruption in her state... with odds stacked against her shows her to be a courageous women. Go McCain/Palin

Posted by: Janet | August 29, 2008 1:06 PM | Report abuse

I've read several Democrats dissing her "lack of experience". Were I a Democrat, I would not use that phrase and I will say no more.

Posted by: lemonfemale | August 29, 2008 1:06 PM | Report abuse

TO AUDREY...

sounds like youre talking about BARACK

...'An unknown with such little experience in government...'

...'Very risky choice.'

Posted by: russell | August 29, 2008 1:06 PM | Report abuse

I just watched Palin's acceptance speech. It was substantially better than any I heard at the Democratic convention. You nay-sayers should look for it on YouTube soon before jumping to conclusions.

Posted by: Doug | August 29, 2008 1:06 PM | Report abuse

I think the election is OVER....pull the plug....

McCain made a very poor choice given the state of the nation..

What was he thinking?......

Posted by: TFR | August 29, 2008 1:07 PM | Report abuse

This vice presidential pick is pure unadulterated pandering designed to lure disgruntled Hillary supporters over to the republican side. I have never been so disgusted in my life. My only hope is that we as a nation can see through such a blatant bunch of hogwash. McCain = 4 more years of Bush’s doctrine.

I am sure to ruffle a few feathers when I say this but to all of those angry Hillary supporters who are whining that they will vote for McCain simply because she did not get the democratic nomination… GROW UP. That kind of behavior is perfectly acceptable for a 5 year old who lacks a penchant for higher thinking.

By the way… McCain wants to overturn Roe vs. Wade… basically saying that even though he has a woman as VP he is still going to eliminate a woman’s right to choose.

This is a bunch of window dressing… I hope that people are smart enough to look behind the curtain.

Posted by: Jim Bob Backer | August 29, 2008 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Tomhere -

Perhaps McCain voted 90% with Bush... they both have an R after their namse.

Explain why Obama voted 87% the same with McCain.

Is that the CHANGE you're looking for???

Posted by: genek | August 29, 2008 1:07 PM | Report abuse

18 mos...24 mos...

BHO was a U.S. Senator for 5 mos when he announced for the prez

Posted by: Scout | August 29, 2008 1:07 PM | Report abuse

she's been a mayor and a governor in addition to life experience thats way better than cohorting with william ayers and jeremiah wright

Posted by: Mike | August 29, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

I thought this was a Presidential election, not a beauty contest.

Posted by: Basil | August 29, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

I love the GOP. Only you can make the mayor of a small town sound like Mayor of New York. Neither Obama nor Biden are afraid of dealing with this pick. People are going to get off the fences now, one way or another. If you want the country to continue on the right-wing agenda...you've got your guy and girl!

Posted by: S. Williams | August 29, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

LOL! It is hilarious to hear people question how Palin's two years of service as governor doesn't qualify her to be "a heartbeat away" from the presidency!

Perhaps you can tell me then how Obama's two years in the Senate qualifies him to be president--or is being "a heartbeat away" from the presidency require more experience than the presidency itself?!

Posted by: Dar | August 29, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

One positive thing: no matter who wins the election, there is at least a symbolic recognition on the part of both parties that the entrenched corruption, cynicism and incompetence of Bush/Cheney and the current batch of republicans are being repudiated.

Posted by: jwheatley | August 29, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

This will becomes Susan Eisenhower's finest hour. She did us all proud in her endorment of Obama/Biden ticket! Over 80,000 People cheered with her - Yes we can!

Posted by: Katherine | August 29, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

It's silly to criticize Sarah Palin's experience -- e.g., as in the very first post here. She has more executive experience than Barak Obama!

I always voted Democrat in the PAST, but I just do not see how Obama is qualified to be an executive of any large institution. He has negligible experience. I don't confuse a person's past actions with his or her ability to rehearse speeches.

This is not about gender or race -- it is about who is qualified to run the country, and at least have a shot at curing some of the mess in government (within constraints imposed by the three branches).

Posted by: Lester Ingber | August 29, 2008 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Interesting to hear the obamites talk about what qualifications Palin has to be "a heart beat away from the Presidency" LOL

Yes, a very good question indeed. They should ask that of Obama first !!

Keep drinking the cool-aid...suckers.

McCain / Palin .... what a ticket.

P.U.M.A.
Registered democrat for McCain / Palin :)

Posted by: Asbee | August 29, 2008 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Sheesh ypbrown2001

Did you graduate from kiddie care in 2001? The whole point of Palin's inexperience is that it's logically inconsistent to continually harp on Obama's experience and then choose a VP candidate with even less experience than Obama.

Learn some common sense.

Posted by: Learn logic | August 29, 2008 1:09 PM | Report abuse

what a horrible choice by Mccain. They obviously care nothing about the economy by this choice

Posted by: John | August 29, 2008 1:09 PM | Report abuse

I can't believe that McCain picked a former beauty queen to be his running mate. So much for increasing his intellectual capital. (This is how he picked his wife.) I can't wait for the VP debates.

Posted by: McBush | August 29, 2008 1:09 PM | Report abuse

To say She has no experiance is ridiculous, look at Obama. She at least has been a Executive, Obama has only been a legislator. And a pretty weak one at that.

Posted by: Kev | August 29, 2008 1:09 PM | Report abuse

How can McCain attack Obama saying "not experienced" now? I wonder whether he is is sane? I think all he cares is to get Hillary's voters? I know Hillary's voters like me are smart. We are for Hillary's principles. Did Justice Thomas help minorities after being in the Supreme Court? Palin who is a gun toting ultra conservative is not going to do anything to help the women or minoties. She calls herself reformist but will ask a poor staffer to take the fall for firing her brother-in-law from the police force. Whom is she kidding?

Posted by: Thomas | August 29, 2008 1:09 PM | Report abuse

I find it funny that the Democrats are all crying that this was a 'political' choice. How is running for President not supposed to be political? As for experience, Palin at least has some executive experience - Obama has none.

Still, it is ridiculous to claim that any candidate is 'inexperienced' in government. American government is characterized by corruption, poor judgement, and stupidity. Why should we want any more of the same? Experience, bah! What we really need is sanity and wisdom and it seems that both parties have some of that this time around. It should be an interesting election.

Posted by: DLM | August 29, 2008 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Let's eally light a spirit filled and substantial campaign for McCain-Palin. Please, Senator, get some "fire" for the future and start right away with the forthcoming hurricane next week and clean out the dunderheads that are presidential appointees....Sounds like Palin might be the good strong arm to do the hatchert job on them starting on Jan. 21, 2009!

In sprot fishing talk on the St. Thoumas' docs..TIGHT LINES! (Good Fishing!) What a tournament this will be until November!

Posted by: Alan Sigmachi | August 29, 2008 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Very smart pick. Obama is already sounding stale and his VP is a non-entity. This will pick up even more dissafected Hilary voters and really help McCain to crush Obama come Novemeber.

Good job John!

Posted by: JK | August 29, 2008 1:10 PM | Report abuse

As an Independent woman voter, may I just say:

GO SARAH GO!!!

Posted by: Baggem | August 29, 2008 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Let's see...in the last 40 years how many Governors became President of the United States? Carter, Reagan, Clinton and Bush! Not a bad choice of candidates. At least she knows how to run a state unlike the current Democtatic nominee for President who has been active in the United States Senate for what, 143 days??? Two years as Governor vs +/- five (5) months - you figure the math and experience."

But how much foreign policy experience? None. At least Obama has 3 years of Federal Senate experience so that he has a whiff of the foreign policy issues of the day. Remember, Obama was right on Iraq, Pakistan, Afgahnistan and Russia/Georgia.
McCain was wrong on Iraq (no WMD/we'll win the war easily/Initially failed to back Shinsheki's call for more troops on ground/argued for invading Iraq immediately after 9/11)

McCain was wrong on Pakistan (Obama naive for suggesting targeted strikes on Al Quaeda leaders in Pakistan--whoops? The Bush administration successfully implements Obama's proposed strategy and takes out an Al Quaeda op.)

McCain was wrong on Afghanistan (on record stating the war in Afghanistan was won 3 years ago)

McCain was wrong on Russia (incorrectly asserts that Russia started the conflict with Georgia/wants to antagonize a country we have very little military or diplomatic leverage over by arguing for their expulsion from the G8).

As for Palin v. Obama, you forget that Obama spent 7 years in the state senate, drafting legislation that ultimately goes to the Governor. So Palin and Obama both dealt with state legal issues. The difference is that Obama did it longer (7 years vs. 18months). That is not to mention Obama's 3 years of Federal Senatorial experience.

Oh, but you say Obama hasn't managed anything... Neither has McCain.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Roe vs Wade SHOULD be overturned. Abortion as a form of birth control is immoral and a disgusting shirk of responsibility. If you don't want kids, use a condom idiots. Killing fetuses because of your own responsibility is wrong.

Beside the fact that Roe vs Wade was never voted upon by the american people.(it would have NEVER passed).

Hippocrisy 101... Liberals against the death penalty (killing convicted murderers), but for killing innocent babies. LOL.

Posted by: Greg | August 29, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

In an earlier post, Audrey stated "An unknown with such little experience in government is a bad choice as V.P. Remember, the V.P. is a "heartbeat" away from the presidency. Very risky choice."
I say it is no riskier than an unknown with such little experience in government as our President!.

Posted by: eazydoes | August 29, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

POOR Choice is right!

I don't think most average american women will vote McCain now as most do not support the NRA....

If I where McCain, I would cancel the GOP convention now....it is done!

Posted by: Ellen | August 29, 2008 1:12 PM | Report abuse

McCain resorted to a "gimmick" for his VP pick. In trying to steal some of Obama's thunder he picked a complete novice with lots of glitter but little substance. He is 72 years old and brings in a complete novice? She may well be a rising star of the Republican party but bet we don't hear too much about Obama's inexperience. Bold but in the end stupid.

Posted by: J. Peoples | August 29, 2008 1:12 PM | Report abuse

I'm willing to bet that the Obama camp is mighty nervous right now...

Posted by: Jordan | August 29, 2008 1:12 PM | Report abuse

I love the fact that John McCain has chosen Sarah Palin as his running mate. Excellent choice. Oh and by the way she's got as much of experience as Obama. Her 2 years as governor & his 2 as senator.

McCain for President 08

Posted by: adam | August 29, 2008 1:12 PM | Report abuse

It's obvious from the comments that most of you are missing the point. McCain has picked Palin to win over the swing voters in the middle. And as a registered independent, he has my vote.

Posted by: Audrey S. | August 29, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

So, I guess her experiences, including Executive experience as governor (that trumps the other candidates) means nothing? Fiscal conservativeness means nothing? Having an interest in reducing the US's dependence on foreign oil means nothing? I guess some folks just want more yanked from their pockets, and given to our federal gov't and gas pump.

I think McCain made a good choice. Sarah Barracuda will give NObama and his Veep a run for their money.

Posted by: Jennifer | August 29, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

i think lack of experience is a failed argument.. she has actually governed a state and i can only imagine the challenges in a state like Alaska. she has worked her way up to this point and i believe it was a wise decision on McCain's part. i admire this woman for so very many reasons. aborting babies because they have down's is apalling to me and this woman has actually "practiced what she preaches". good for her. she is compassionate. and for those of you that don't like is that she is an avid hunter and fisher? well, you cannot compare human life to animal life in any way. i am completely obsessed with animals and i spoil the crap out of my dogs, but it's easy to differentiate between wolves and human babies.

Posted by: nickipoof | August 29, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Wow, reading all the comments has been an education. I'm just an ordinary citizen who had never heard of Sarah Palin. At first I thought it was a clever choice on the Senator's part but now I'm not so sure. I think it's a moot point however because there is no way this country is going to elect another Republican president after the last 8 years with Bush and his crew. Enough allready!!

Posted by: LindyLou | August 29, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Liberals complain more of the same, then you get someone fresh and exciting, and you complain. Make up your minds, no, just go drink some more Obama kool-aid!

Posted by: Pamela | August 29, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

A question was raised on to what qualifies Sara Palin to run as VP, alluding to her whopping two years as Governor of Alaska. That of course is two years as the top executive of a State, with all of the same considerations as a President. That is at least two years more than Senator O'Bama has run anything, except maybe his mouth.

Posted by: Bob | August 29, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

This says it all about Mc Cains pick.

ANCHORAGE (AP) — The state of Alaska will sue to challenge the recent listing of polar bears as a threatened species, Gov. Sarah Palin announced Wednesday.
She and other Alaska elected officials fear a listing will cripple oil and gas development in prime polar bear habitat off the state's northern and northwestern coasts.


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Palin argued that there is not enough evidence to support a listing. Polar bears are well-managed and their population has dramatically increased over 30 years as a result of conservation, she said.

Climate models that predict continued loss of sea ice, the main habitat of polar bears, during summers are unreliable, said Palin, a Republican.

Posted by: MJN | August 29, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

GO AMTRAK!!!

Posted by: sharkcellar | August 29, 2008 1:14 PM | Report abuse

This will pick up even more dissafected Hilary voters..

Sarah Palin's qualifications match up to Senator Clinton's? Aren't QUALIFICATIONS the main reason Hillary supporters are disgruntled?

Since Palin and Clinton are obviously on separate levels experience wise, the only other reason for Clinton voters to support Palin is her gender.

Is this an admission that McCain thinks Hillary supporters were motivated by gender and not substance?

Will Hillary supporters vote for a solidly pro-life ticket, simply because the potential VP is a woman?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Schmidt and Rove are promoting this like American's going to buy a 3rd Bush term. McCain voted with Bush 90 percent of the time. Say no to McCain/Bush/Rove/Cheney. The Democrat Convention was great last night! I jumped out of my chair yelling Yes we can! My dog joined in :-D

Posted by: Ruth | August 29, 2008 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Explain to me again.... why would I want Obama???

I think I will pass on the cool-aid.

McCain /Palin - Great Ticket!

Posted by: Dennis | August 29, 2008 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Hey Dahagg: what item on Obama's resume qualifies him TO BE THE HEARTBEAT?

Posted by: matt | August 29, 2008 1:15 PM | Report abuse

McCain picked her so he could pay her less than Romney. Oh what a beautiful day

Posted by: mobama | August 29, 2008 1:15 PM | Report abuse

I bet Palin has some great recipes she can share.

Posted by: Joe Sixpack | August 29, 2008 1:15 PM | Report abuse

HAPPY BIRTHDAY...PRESIDENT MCCAIN
Gov. Sarah Palin is the BEST gift McCain will ever receive....The Gift That Keeps On Giving.....(1.)A lifetime member of the NRA and enjoys hunting, fishing, for all those "clinging to their guns" voters. (2)A minimum of 5million of the 18million "disillusioned Hillary Clinton voters." Hold on to your hats folks, this is going to be a bumpy campaign season!

RE:"Palin (mayor-governor) doesn't have enough experience to be Vice President" argument needs to explain how Obama (community organizer-Jr.Senator) gives him enough experience to be President.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:15 PM | Report abuse

When Obamas "lack of experience" was talked about in the media, Democrats quickly responded with two thumbs up because newer ment less corupted, and showed that "Change" was in the works. Is the same not true when we now talk about "Palins lack of experience".

A fresh perspective and a tough women is exactly what we need. I now, as a Republican, fuly support the Republican canidates.

Posted by: Alaskan & Proud | August 29, 2008 1:15 PM | Report abuse

In today's announcement, McCain felt the need to talk about Palin's record as a Point-guard in highschool, PTA member and mayor of her home town (population 9000). But he ommitted her 2nd place finish as Miss Alaska. Regardless, is this a historical record that compares with Senator Clinton?

Gov. Palin recently gave birth. She may become a strong politician eventually, but this is hardly the time to put such a person within reach of the presidency.

Posted by: Young Atheart | August 29, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

The democratic talking pt "heartbeat away from the presidency" is getting old very fast. Especially since CNN and MSNBC can't stop saying it.

And by saying Palin doesn't have the experience to lead they are in fact saying the same thing about their messiah Obama.

Now the democrats are dissing Palins small town roots. More of the "clinging to guns and religion" predjudice shining through.

I thought I would always be a democrat but this election cycle has shown how much the democratic party has changed and it isn't for the better.

I am switching my registration to independent. I could never be a republican, but frankly they are a much better group of people right now. The democrats better wake up and start treating us "small town" folk with some respect.

Posted by: Hillary2012 | August 29, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Pragmatist, you summed it up perfectly. Picking Palin is just a condescending nod to the women voters -- "well, you can't get a woman on Obama's ticket, but you can get a woman on mine!" As if women voters only want a token in the White House -- and meanwhile, no equal pay, a president who jokes about rape, who calls his wife a "c**t" in public, and who says we're a country of whiners when anyone raises objections. How insulting.

Posted by: SLB | August 29, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

I read a comment about Palin not having enough exerience, She has served public office and truely served her constituants longer than Obama and he has his eyes set on te "Big" chair. (Talk about unqualified)

She's a Wife and Mother (There's two big jobs right there), has served as Mayor and Governor...
Come up with some legitimate concerns or just shut it!

Posted by: Michael - Tennessee | August 29, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

"That of course is two years as the top executive of a State, with all of the same considerations as a President."

WITH ZERO FOREIGN POLICY EXPERIENCE. McCain's argument is that Obama does not have the experience to "keep americans safe". What has Sarah Palin done in her 18 months as Governor of the nations 3rd smallest state, that demonstrates she will be able to "keep americans safe" any more than obama?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Barack Obama/Joe Biden vs John McCain/Tina Fey.

Posted by: Anthony | August 29, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Dems are going to hate this because where as the democrats have their newbie in the front driving and their experience in the rear (Backwards if you ask me...) the Republicans have seasoned experience driving and the Fresh new ideas coming from the rear.

It is the equivalent of a professor being schooled in algebra by a 4th grader on the Dems side. i think the republicans have it right in this one.. lets watch the fun for the next few months!

Posted by: Joe | August 29, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

All this sneering from the Left that McCain now can't say Obama isn't experienced enough or ready to be president ... wait ... didn't Joe Biden argue that again and again over the past 18 months?

Yeah, he did. But I guess all the soaring rhetoric and empty platitudes out of Obama's mouth in the past few months suddenly qualify him in Biden's book (or whatever book Biden is cribbing from these days).

Brilliant 24 hours by McCain in co-opting the news cycle right out from Obama. All last night's "historic" (and clunkily delivered) Denver speech, what are people talking about today?

McCain-Palin. Obama got pwned.

Posted by: Bill | August 29, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Rhea, 2 years as governor of Alaska hardly qualifies Zsa Zsa to be VP. Of course you could count her executive experience as Mayor of Wasilla (pop. 5,470), and her experience as runner up in a beauty contest (only a heartbeat away from assuming the duties). Lincoln had no executive experience before assuming the presidency -- heck he couldn't even win an election to become his state's junior senator. First a trophy wife now a trophy VP. What next? Is "George" McCain gonna hit the trail in a smoking jacket?

Posted by: Carlos | August 29, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

I was preety much unquestioned MCCain voter - UNTIL NOW - I know nothing about her, but the lack of experience is enough. We may get lucky and she turns out to be very capable President (you have to see it that way)but I think it an intolerable risk. Not even borderline experience here. Further I don't see some other overarching reason for her choice.

I'd hate to vote "write in" this time ...

Posted by: Steve Nanney | August 29, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

After hearing Obama' speech, McCain must be frightened out of his wits. Then he impulsively analyzed and got it figured out. At least for a dirty old man to loose, he will be happy with a beauty queen VP.

Any Hillary support with brains will see through this deception by McCain. Poor Cindy .....

Posted by: Basil | August 29, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

REPLY TO DAHAGG: for one thing: her common sense, her honesty and integrity, her decency, her INTELLIGENCE, her ability to stand up to the old guard, challenge them, and win. That's just for starters - I'm sure I'll add more later.

Remember the old adage, "You can't cheat an honest man."

This is also a master stroke for the McCain campaign - she can attract and satisfy REAL conservatives, women, prolifers, the handicapped and disabled, NRA champions, military, veterans, the disaffected Dems, and 90% of the ordinary Americans who are fed up with the way our country has been going.

A win-win all around. She is an outstanding candidate.

Posted by: Lois Schmidt | August 29, 2008 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Thecookie | August 29, 2008 1:18 PM | Report abuse

What a great choice!!! She has fire; tenacity; common sense; integrity; a no-nonsense approach; the desire and will to make things better in Govt. She understands budgets.... I say" Go Sarah, Go!!!!

Posted by: An American Senior | August 29, 2008 1:18 PM | Report abuse

I think Palin could likely bend Obama Bin laden over her knee and spank him without much effort

Posted by: CAdem | August 29, 2008 1:18 PM | Report abuse

All i can say is.... hahahahaah at all of you who say "she isn't qualified." Look at the democratic nominee... Barrack Obama took office about a year (or less... not sure) than she did. Is 6 months to a year difference in time SUCH a big difference that it makes him "THE PERFECT CANDIDATE?" I think not, get off the Obama wagon people, think for yourself.

Posted by: Jason | August 29, 2008 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Okay you socialist lefties. Answer this--what experience does Obama have to qualify for the job? The answer - not much except for the gift of gab. Give the lady a chance. Kudos for McCain for this choice.
This should be interesting.

Posted by: Robin | August 29, 2008 1:18 PM | Report abuse

She has served public office and truely served her constituants longer than Obama and he has his eyes set on te "Big" chair

Palin has served "her constituents" meaning the people of Alaska for 18 months.

Obama served his constituents, meaning the people of Illinois for 3 years. He served his constituents in the Chicago district for 7 years. You do the math.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Wow...how can an Obama supporter insult McCain's pick by saying Palin is not experienced enough? Either experience matters or it doesn't...take your pick.

I for one think McCain's pick is perfect. I was planning on writing in Ron Paul. Now, I have the luxury of voting for a ticket that has NEVER happened. A person in Palin who is one of the few who really represents the people.

We sit here and complain about having political leaders who just give lip service and are only interested in votes. We wish to be represented by someone who really knows what we go through. Who with an overage of experience in politics can represent us like that? Seeing what Palin has accomplished already with such little experience is a testament to her ability to do the job. She has got things done that would take a wind-bag politician 20 years to accomplish.

She's well qualified. Not by years in the "machine" that is the government...but by proving she gets things done. Obama talks about change and how much we need it. If you ask me a senator has plenty of opportunity to make change happen. If he didn't cause great change as a senator, what makes you think he will now?

Vote for someone who HAS made change happen...and in very little time. McCain-Palin have my vote.

Posted by: Qualifications | August 29, 2008 1:19 PM | Report abuse

McCain got it all wrong. Hillary supporters wanted Bill Clinton with a vagina. Palin is no Clinton.

Posted by: Rodney | August 29, 2008 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Venomous Democratic bile in 5...4...3...2...1...

Posted by: Kaycee | August 29, 2008 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Palin's speech is remarkable. Now Obama should be really sorry that he didn't pick Hillary.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:19 PM | Report abuse

She NOT helpful...

more like a dan quayle in a DRESS

Posted by: Good Idea | August 29, 2008 1:19 PM | Report abuse

What? Women aren't allowed to be pro life anymore? Man you libs area bunch of fascists.

Posted by: Greg | August 29, 2008 1:20 PM | Report abuse

The choice is clear. Give the government to two slick, D.C. lawyers or give it to a soldier and a mother. I know which one is most likely to represent me and my interests best. It is not the two who are professionally trained to lie and obfuscate (for the dense among us, that would be the lawyers).

Lawyers, we have more than we need already.

Posted by: eddie | August 29, 2008 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Serene gets it partly wrong. Obama, if elected, won't be the first Black American president, he'll be the first Arab-American president. His father is Kenyan and Arab. It's been oh, so convenient to claim something he's not; that's pandering!! Palin is not experienced but shares values. Obama/Biden don't share anything except a complete lack of experience, other than government spending. Neither have ever made a payroll, don't know a thing other than using government bucks to their, and the Dems, advantage. By the way, if 95% of the middle class are not going to be affected by Obama/Biden tax increases -- why not have then define "middle-class". Bet they stumble all over themselves!!

Posted by: Hairlessbear | August 29, 2008 1:20 PM | Report abuse

The founders of this nation had no experience running, much less creating a nation. Yet they succeeded beyond anyone's imagination.

Obama, Biden and McCain are seasoned pols who know how to work the system so they always come out on top. That's not what the founders envisioned. This country needs someone whose soul has not been squeezed out by an ever tightening beltway. Palin is intelligent, resourceful, has excellent communication skills and is most definitely not a product of the junk system controlling the DC.

Ripping the choice a supposedly inexperienced Palin because she is just a "heartbeat" away from the presidency is patently ridiculous. Don't worry, if McCain tosses her the keys on the way to his funeral, Palin will not drive the car of state into a telephone pole.

Judging by the reaction of most of you folks, the McCain/Palin ticket is going to give Obama/Biden trouble beyond all expectation.

Posted by: seanie | August 29, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

A beauty contestant. Just what America needs. That will show everyone that McCain takes his responsibilities seriously.

Posted by: brains before beauty | August 29, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Great, McCain. You picked a woman. You decided to be perverse. Good for you on that one. Gonna be historical and amazing, I guess, whichever side wins.

But why a woman light on experience and an annoying prolife moral martyr? Can't we ever get rid of this antediluvian Republican thinking and get some genuine fresh air? I'm a woman and I can't relate to her. I wouldn't carry a Downs syndrome child to term. But that's the family message to women from the Republicans: no choice any more...you get what you get...you conceive it, you keep it. Sorry. I don't want those examples for me to marvel at.

I can relate to the Dems, and to Obama. I see a lot more similarity in values there, and I have liked McCain and was strongly considering him. But the choice of this inexperienced woman is an insult to our intelligence.

Yeah, she's a woman and she's great to look at. But she's no Hilary Clinton...just a too-good-to-be-true Republican woman moral icon. Spare me.

Posted by: Eklectic1 | August 29, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

This is a brilliant choice. It supports McCain's position as a party "maverick". As for the experience argument, she has actually governed with very high approval ratings. McCain can now go after Obama's position as the candidate of change. Obama's VP choice of Biden doesn't represent change at all.

Posted by: Benny | August 29, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Women who want abortion to be legal and/or have environmental priorities and/or want gun control and/or think McCain's VP should have even a smidgen of foreign policy experience should reject Palin outright. Palin is an outrageously bad choice for any woman who shares Hillary's concerns for women, for Americans, for the country.

Posted by: Mark | August 29, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Joe, you say the Republicans now have fresh ideas coming from the rear. Gee, I could have sworn that's where they've always originated. ;-)

Posted by: Carlos | August 29, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

It is obvious in some of the discussion here that people do NOT understand politics. Obama is a Junior Senator he has NO experience in leadership. Palin was a mayor and now a Governor leading an entire State. She has proven leadership. Obama is all talk with nothing to back it up.

Posted by: wearez | August 29, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Fascinating choice:

It appears to count on disaffected Clinton supporters to switch parties to an anti-abortion woman candidate. Hillary's active participation on behalf of Obama will be important.

Palin's nomination substantially undercuts the "experience" argument against Obama, especially given McCain's age.

It is also interesting in geographic terms -- Arizona and Alaska vs. Illinois and Dela-vania. More to the point, it doesn't seem to make great sense on the electoral vote map, unless I am missing something.

It also may (may) be seen as gentling a McCain campaign which has taken on a very Rovean tone lately (last night's congratulatory response to Barack's speech, being a slightly backhanded exception).

Todd Palin's employment with BP is NOT in a management position (see 2007 Alaska AG ethics opinion) and it shouldn't be characterized as such. While it may be seen surficially as a nexus with oil companies, it shouldn't be hugely significant, without more.

"Troopergate" questions (regarding firing of a former in-law whoc was a state trooper)is certain to be in the mix early. Troopergate would hurt the ticket if it is perceived as being a continuation of "Young-Murkowski politics " in Alaska, but I assume that has been completely vetted by the McCain folks.

My biggest question is: At what point did McCain make this choice? Was it before or after Hilary's speech Tuesday night? If before, was there an expectation that her support for the Dem ticket would be tepid? If after, was there a perception that her endorsement was not effective with her supporters?

In any case, it is a fascinating choice.

Posted by: Pleasantus | August 29, 2008 1:22 PM | Report abuse

McMILF HAHAHAHAHA

Posted by: jack | August 29, 2008 1:22 PM | Report abuse

"Either
you espouse values that will bring our country back to greatness and give the
working class, the true backbone of our country, a chance to flourish, or you don't. Three Repubs in the 20s, Harding, Coolidge, and Hoover, gave us the great
depression with pretyy much the same thing that Bush has given us the last 2 terms."

You should research your history. You'll see that between then and now, the parties have shifted and actually switched in relation to policies and viewpoints. The Democratic views then were the Conservative Republican views of today. The Republican views then were the Democratic views of today.

Her age and experience is irrelivant in my opinion. She has Executive Experience, not just as Governor but also as a businesswoman.

For the first time I'm actually excited about any candidate. I'll never vote for Obama, now I actually have motivation to vote for McCain-Palin. Anyone who can't see through the rhetoric and good looks of Obama should take the blinders off, look at his history, decision making, and actually listen to the things he says, then negates, then says again and stop supporting him simply because he's a good looking charismatic man.

Posted by: Lee | August 29, 2008 1:22 PM | Report abuse

I switching my vote to McCain. Grat choice. I much more exicted by thids pick then Biden. This woman has executive expirice. Being a Senator is not the same. She's more qualified then Barack.

Posted by: Wrigeyfield80 | August 29, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

I don't think most average american women will vote McCain now as most do not support the NRA....
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Says who? I'm a woman, an Indepedednt voter, an avid hunter , and I support the NRA.

Posted by: Baggem | August 29, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

John McCain’s pick of Sarah Palin is a SOLID one for REAL Conservatives, and announcing the pick today is a strategic masterpiece, knocking out Barack Obama/Joe Biden’s after convention euphoria!.

Did I mention that I loved EVERYTHING she said after being introduced by John McCain? OsiSpeaks.com

Posted by: KYJurisDoctor | August 29, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

1. As many of you have stated, we just witnessed an historic event out here in the Rocky Mountain West at Mile High Stadium (it’s still not “Invesco Field” in my mind, and I didn't notice John Elway anywhere near the event . . interesting but predictable, as he was thinking of going to Congress as an R. a couple of years ago), and this is what Mr. McCain comes up with? Why couldn't Alaskan Rep. Don Young or Counselor Thor-Dobson's god call down a tornado or forest fire or hailstorm to stop it? Why in the name of whoever you call god, the morning after I heard echoes of MLK last night from the top of the country, at the center of the country, did McCain (not the Republican blue-bloods, I know) choose a transplant-Alaskan (true Alaskans, as they will tell you, are the native Alaskans, not white people) beauty queen to step into Darth Cheney's shoes?

2. Where the heck is JakeD? I’ve challenged him in several places, or does he only post on safe sites at the Washington Post? If I had any say at the Washington Post, I would commit an intern to "JakeD watch" on all Washington Post blogs for 5 minutes each day out there in hot, humid, recess-slow Washington DC in August -- what else do you have to do? (I know, I left the mountains 20 years ago to suffer the DC swamp in August as a congressional intern, and they kept me plenty busy).

Whoever this JakeD person is, maybe he or she thinks that he or she is the next Matt Drudge. Or just an angry militia gal or guy out West here that “rekins the guvmints gonna git my gunz an kill all them unborn chilren." Or maybe a mole. Respective candidates for President now: Democrats -- Obama/Biden, Republicans -- McCain/Palin.

Jake D, feel our pain, as Americans, for once and for all, and feel it especially as another hurricane could be approaching the South. . . and I’m done with my postings and with you as you appear to contradict everything I ever learned in Sunday School and church about what it means to be a Christian, which is to above all love God and love your neightbor – so I guess you are flat out wrong and will have to talk to your maker about that -- good luck and good night, I'm outahere.

Posted by: mountainman | August 29, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Let me get this straight - Blacks will vote for Obama because he is black. And women will vote for Hillary because she is a woman. But, if McCain nominates a woman reformer as VP, he's pandering. Drink your cool-aid Democrats.

Posted by: Mike Johnson | August 29, 2008 1:24 PM | Report abuse

"Okay you socialist lefties. Answer this--what experience does Obama have to qualify for the job? The answer - not much except for the gift of gab. Give the lady a chance. Kudos for McCain for this choice.
This should be interesting."


10 years as an elected representative for constituents in Illinois is not enough? How about president of Harvard Law Review and a magna cum laude grad of the school?

Look, YOUR candidate has been arguing for the past 3 weeks that Obama is not "ready to lead". This was HIS argument. He's run numerous commercials arguing that Obama is simply a celebrity with no accomplishments.

NOW he wants to argue that Palin, who is (a) younger with (b) fewer years of government experience than Obama, is ready to be a heartbeat away from the presidency.

How can he possibly think that Obama is NOT ready to lead, but Palin IS?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:24 PM | Report abuse

A great choice, has better exp. than Obama and she has shown her metal in Alaska.

Posted by: razz | August 29, 2008 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Well, the Democrats have once again snatched defeat from the jaws of victory (Obama-Clinton would've crushed ANY Republican rebuttal) and shown that they are unsurpassed in missing an opportunity to miss an opportunity. Hell, even Adlai Stevenson is rolling over in his grave!

Posted by: KGC | August 29, 2008 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Okay...here's the math:

A VP causes more change for the people as a Governor in your mentioned 18 months than Obama in his 10 years.

You do the math.

Posted by: "You do the math" comment | August 29, 2008 1:24 PM | Report abuse

An unknown, with a small resume a problem for a VP pick, but not with the President?

Posted by: Chris Krollage | August 29, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Was the actual Miss Alaska not available? Did we have to settle for #2? I mean, really.

Posted by: ProspectPark | August 29, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

I can not understand any women who consider themselves Hillary supporter's and listened to the speech Hillary gave at the convention who would consider voting for this ticket. Sarah Palin to my knowledge does not stand for the same things. I believe that most women from the baby boom generation and younger who supported Hillary are the same women who believe in roe v wade and yet believe we should all work towards a day when the percentage of unwanted pregnancies is substantially lower.

She is also an advocate for drilling in the Anwar province in Alaska not exactly a great position for many who believe the future is not oil and gas but alternative energy but alaskans have alot at stake in oil its what their economy is based on.

As for the experience issue John McCain is not a young man and she could end up taking over for him so that argument is now moot.

Posted by: gc | August 29, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Interesting. The women Faye hangs out with are different from me and the women I know. I don't think McCain is out of touch with us at all. And I don't feel "pandered to" because I think his choice is a candidate of what appears to be stellar character, who lives in our real world, who doesn't just talk about change but goes out and gets it done by kicking butt.

Your intelligence is insulted by McCain's choice? Obama has chosen a VP candidate with reportedly questionable grades in school, and reportedly also a track record of plagiarism. Go figure...

I love what she's been able to accomplish despite being a former beauty contest contestant! Why not say, in similar outrage, "he's picked a former basketball player who wants to overturn Roe v Wade...". Come on.

Posted by: AHockeyMom | August 29, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

This is an incredibly good choice by John McCain. This woman is impressive, no doubt about it. John McCain proves he can bring real change, and this contrasts with the empty retoric of change from Obama with his tired old liberal laundry list.

Obama/Biden just lost the election. It's laughable that there are so many defensive posts by the Democrats here.

Posted by: Dan | August 29, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

If so a woman VP, why not Sarah Palin? If not Sarah Palin, Who?

I really do not believe anyone has any experience to be president of the United States unless elected for a second term as president of the United States.

Not even Senator McCain and especially Senator Obama or Senator Biden are qualified to be president.

We are back to square one with a female in the mix. Will Governor Sarah Palin draw more attention than Obama and consequently draw a bunch of females to the McCain/Palin ticket? Or will she run a bunch of males off the ticket?

McCain v Obama are not going to be in the spotlight now for awhile. It will be Governor Sarah Palin who will get the attention of the press grist mill. She has put in place some very good governance for Alaskans. She can do the same for the United States as VP.

So far there is nothing amuck in her closet except the ex-brother-in-law flap and that has already been explained. The man was incompetent and everone knew it so she fired his dumb @$$.

Posted by: FromTheTop | August 29, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Gov. Sarah Palin's own legislature launched a $100,000 investigation earlier this month, as the Associated Press reported, "to determine if Palin dismissed Alaska's public safety commissioner because he would not fire (a state) trooper, Mike Wooten.

Wooten went through a messy divorce from Palin's sister.

Posted by: Dark Lady | August 29, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Palin has ACCOMPLISHED more political/governmental reform in her short stint as a political power than most politician do in their whole career. She is action, Obama is talk.

Posted by: hyway | August 29, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

It is hilarious listening to the conservatives clamoring to defend the experience card. Just priceless. Nice pick McCain, you can't play that card anymore.

Obama wins in a landslide now that McCain has tried to turn this into a beauty constest.

Posted by: No experience | August 29, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Fate,
What are you talking about experience for? Your candidate Obama has no experience and he is running for the #1 spot America. Tell me one thing Obama has accomplished. It sounds to me; Palin has done more for her state in 2 years than Obama has in his 10 or 11 years for his state. You are a typical Lib…..

Posted by: NObama08 | August 29, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

This is an excellent pick. From numerous perspectives it makes Obama/Biden look bad. First, this lady has more experience in wielding power than Obama. Being a governor requires actually doing things. I'll bet the polls in a few days show that Palin goes over well with Republicans and with conservative minded Democrats and Independents. This country is still right of center. And Obama's inspirational but very downer speech yesterday won't change that. "We're a better country than this?" Jeez. I'm supposed to be excited about that?

Posted by: j4jump | August 29, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

"I can't believe you people question her experience. At least she has 2 years experience in the Executive branch of a state - she has actually governed! Obama has NO executive eperience! What do you think qualifies him to be PRESIDENT?"

ummm...Sen. McCain has no executive experience either...just legislative, and his mistress turned wife bought him those seats...

John McCain could give a sh%t less about enlisted people and veterans...

Veteran for Obama!

Posted by: Mary Nicole Porter | August 29, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Great pick for McCain - The more you find out about her the more you will like her. She support of more than 80 percent in her state. She will get many female vote. She is a maverick that Washington and republicans need for real change.

Posted by: abel | August 29, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Seems so odd that many don't like her inexperience for VP while having no problem with the very same inexperience for a democratic president. If anyone should be "in training" while in office, it seems like it'd be less risky for the VP if forced to choose.

Posted by: Oregonian | August 29, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Guys, you're looking at this wrong. The libs here are merely doing to Palin what they are doing to Obama: Projecting their beliefs onto an unknown. For them to sleep soundly at night socialism has to work, government has to be the answer and conservatives have to be greedy and/or idiots. This is simple projection of their own inadeqacies onto Palin, just as the only reason Obama is where is is because they are filling in the gaps of what is unknown about him with their fever dreams.

The difference is that when the blanks about Palin begin to get filled in, all these hollow criticisms will fall away whereas when the blanks on Obama begin to get filled in HE will fall away.

Posted by: brainy435 | August 29, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

hummm, Rush Limbaugh's pick? Who is in charge here? Crazy choice, I think. Tom Ridge or Condi Rice would have given Mr. McCain a chance. Picking an unknown, nice lady as she might or might not be, from Alaska of all places, will prove to be a major gaffe. It's over.

Posted by: Ron Sampson | August 29, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

If we were to judge the competence of our presidential candidates solely on their choice of running mates, Obama has aced it and McCain has resoundingly flunked. Obama chose Biden because they believe they complete each other and they can work together. This is what America wants and expects.

If ever McCain wanted to prove that he's not "more of the same", he didn't do so with picking Palin. She embodies everything that can be associated with despicable ultra-conservatism: an alliance with big oil (literally married to it), an intolerant fervent Christian, and an anti-environmentalist. The only thing good to say is that she's been a corruption whistleblower. But this should simply highlight just how badly corrupted the Republican party is, and why America cannot afford to allow them leadership positions until they clean up their own house.

Karl Rove seems to be operating out of cynicism in using this ploy to entice the women's vote. I can only hope that this nation can put this notion aside, and concentrate on real issues at hand.

Posted by: Aryeh | August 29, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

McCain always liked the pretty ones...

Good night McCain
Good night Palin
Good night GOP

Posted by: LaughingHard | August 29, 2008 1:27 PM | Report abuse

These posting are just further proof that Liberalism is a mental disorder.

Jds- "There's a war going on... YIKES"

...I'm sure McCain is aware of that as he actually served his country in the military and was a bloody POW.

Also, Palin's son is being deployed to Iraq in the near future... maybe she just thought he liked the desert scenery.

There is a war going on. Good point. You'd rather vote for Obama and Biden... Biden's own party didn't even support him. He's tried for a Democratic presidential bid every four years since before I was even born.

A radio caller I heard sums up the majority of the public's understanding of Obama...

"Well I'm voting for Obama because he's half black and half white, so he can understand everyone."

Great point!

Posted by: Jules | August 29, 2008 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Alaska pageant "runner up." Hilarious.

Posted by: Number two | August 29, 2008 1:27 PM | Report abuse

A hockeymom...sadly people ARe dumb enough to fall for your post.

Meanwhile, in real news, Gov. Sarah Palin's own legislature launched a $100,000 investigation earlier this month, as the Associated Press reported, "to determine if Palin dismissed Alaska's public safety commissioner because he would not fire (a state) trooper, Mike Wooten.

Wooten went through a messy divorce from Palin's sister.

Posted by: Good posts | August 29, 2008 1:27 PM | Report abuse

America has gone too far away from truth to vote for such a conservative and down to earth lady. She may not have enough experience (like many rightly judge Obama). But if America can be fooled by Obama, maybe some will go for this lady's speech. I do like the fact that reducing spending was important to her - very UNdemocratic. God's will be done (the way we are running from truth, Obama may be the man of the hour to take us into destruction)

Posted by: kay | August 29, 2008 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Good choice for McCains election campaign, terrible choice for America. Palins values are even more regressive than McCain. More of the same...wearing a skirt.

Posted by: Cal | August 29, 2008 1:27 PM | Report abuse

people love obama. why?

i'm not a huge fan of mccain but man ive never seen anything like these obama supporters.

the last person to promise change and hope to a society was none other than fidel castro. very enthusiastic and inspiring man he was as well.

Posted by: ryan | August 29, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Here's a site worth checking for everyone fawning over the experience meme:
http://electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Info/experience.html

Many of our least experienced presidents have been great, and many of our most experienced presidents have been mediocre

Posted by: shek | August 29, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

This pick reminds me of the GEICO Commercial featuring the caveman who comes to town and dont have a clue as to where to go. Even though she has a nice personality she does not have the executive presence to deal with national and world affairs in this dangerous and complicated world.Wasn't this what Mccain was critizing Obama for even though Obama shows more stature and judgement than Mccain himself?

Posted by: samiael | August 29, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

I love how the LOUDEST and most opinionated posters from either party have the worst grammar, spelling, and sentence structure. Obama, Biden, McCain, and Palin are all far more experienced and prepared to be in office than any of us who are wasting our time blowing off steam and making (un)educated guesses all day.

Posted by: Kiran-Fai | August 29, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

"John McCain could give a sh%t less about enlisted people and veterans..."

Isn't McCain's son still an enlisted man serving in Iraq or has he come back home from there?

Posted by: Oregonian | August 29, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

better the inexperienced one be the Vice President instead of the President

Posted by: Matt M | August 29, 2008 1:29 PM | Report abuse

"It's interesting that John McCain, s purported admirer of Theodore Roosevelt -- the penultimate conservationist--"

If Teddy was the next-to-last conservationist, who's the last one?

Methinks "a concerned citizen" needs to consult a dictionary before attempting to use fifty cent words...

Posted by: logicprobe | August 29, 2008 1:29 PM | Report abuse

John McCain's choice of Palin embodies change, reform, and the "Maverick" approach he has been known for.

Obama has only ever made empty promises of change, and then he proves it is only rhetoric by chosing Biden. This shows he was uncertain in himself and of the idea that he is unelectable because of his little experience. Perhaps one of his "advisors" "did him a favor" by choosing Biden for him.


However, the worst mistake Obama ever made (so far) is NOT picking Hillary Clinton as his Vice-President.

Palin is the new Obama and Hillary in one!!!

Also, why doesn't Mr. Obama have a son?

Go McCain/Palin 08!!!

Posted by: Paul | August 29, 2008 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Palin lacks education, has no background in economics, foreign policy or defense.

That's the least of my concerns.

As a Special Education teacher I know from experience that having a special needs child is a demanding job for both parents. Palin is overestimating her own abilities and shortchanging her baby (who has Down Syndrome) by accepting the nomination.

For little Trig's sake, I hope she pulls out - soon.

Posted by: dgojill | August 29, 2008 1:29 PM | Report abuse

The ignorance of the internet. Dems being called socialist is funny, if not so sad.

I guess the GOP are fascists then?

See how dumb you all sound?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:30 PM | Report abuse

She's got more time in office than obama

Posted by: TJP | August 29, 2008 1:30 PM | Report abuse

I'm a single issue voter -- health care -- so I'm going to vote for Obama because of it. But my heart is with McCain and now Palin. Both have walked the talk for changing business as usual in government, fighting against corruption even at personal and professional risk to themselves. I believe both are in office to serve and to improve the country, not for personal glory or advancement. I believe Obama is in office for personal glory and advancement. He stays in an office just long enough to run for the next higher office, not to actually get anything done to help people. He does just enough to get the next, better, position. He's written two books about himself before the age of 50. His focus in very much on his own life story. I believe he has good intentions and a good heart, but his compulsion is clearly personal advancement. McCain and Palin are clearly motivated by goals outside their personal life stories. I'm grateful our country has such politicians.

Posted by: J Elizabeth | August 29, 2008 1:30 PM | Report abuse

""Is it true that she used her power as governor to try to get her sister's ex-husband fired from his State Trooper's job?

Posted by: Steve | August 29, 2008 12:01 PM ""
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She says no, But the investigation currently underway say's they have multiple taped conversations of her staff using threats to get him removed. She is under investigation for firing the trooper with no other motive besides family ties.

Posted by: Creamsykle | August 29, 2008 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Not qualified enough becuase she is a unknown governor from a small state? Only small state by population as Alaska is the size of about a 1/3 of the continental United States

Like the unknown peanut farmer/governor from Georgia Jimmy Carter

The small unknown state governor from the south Bill Clinton

Or perhaps relatively unknown governor from a large state Ronald Reagan

Oh an obama a senator for a couple of years from one of the most politically corrupt states in the union Illinois. Part of the corrupt Chicago politalcal machine.

Posted by: Good move | August 29, 2008 1:30 PM | Report abuse

I say you go A HockeyMom!!!I agree with you and am so excited about Palin, her experience,Motherhood,Pro-Life,standing up and cleaning up Alaska"s government.Those who criticize and abuse should walk a mile in her shoes!!!!.

Posted by: KMW | August 29, 2008 1:30 PM | Report abuse

No she does not TJP, learn to count.

Obama has been in office since 1996.

Try agian

Posted by: Lies... | August 29, 2008 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Anyone who can't see through the rhetoric and good looks of Obama should take the blinders off, look at his history, decision making, and actually listen to the things he says, then negates, then says again.

Really? Obama flip flops but McCain doesn't?

Tax Cuts
Immigration
Confederate Flag
Oil Drilling
Torture

Hasn't McCain changed his position on each of these issues? Or are you too busy focusing to his "substantive" talking point-based campaign about how Obama is not "ready to lead"

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Hillary Clinton's influence of this election cycycle has NOTHING to do with this VP pick. Ooops! I forgot we are talking about the republicans. Gimme a break. Like McCain would have picked her just on her own merits. At least Hillary proved she could have made a first rate president. This woman proved she could hire and fire dog catchers. (Or state troopers)This isnt a "mavervick" pick....its desperate grab for an electorate McCain has problems securing. The womans vote. I wonder how women feel about overtrning Roe V Wade, women NOT recieving equal pay and a host of other policies the Republicans proudly stump. This is disgusting window dressing, more of the sham than it is wise. Based on window dressing more than stregnthing a ticket and choosing a VP ready to be president if need be. Watch Mccain keel over and this woman step in. Ewwww boy. Gross McCain gross and desperate.

Posted by: feastorafamine | August 29, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

To bad you are a Republcian man KMW

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Great pick: A woman who pro-actively supports aerial hunting of wolves.

Posted by: BKrause | August 29, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

I'm fed up with the rampant corruption in both parties. Anyone who has a record of fighting for the elimination of corrupt politicians from his/her own party has my admiration, respect, and vote.

Posted by: Tony Carvajal - Tyler, TX | August 29, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

To those who liked Palin's speech ask yourselves if she would have filled Mile High Stadium with that speech.

Its over, all over. Not even a contest (except maybe a beauty contest, but women will find Obama and Biden more attractive).

But I got to hand it to McCain for using the VP nomination to highlight a reformer. He knows the GOP must change if it ever hopes to get back in power after this fall. When McCain/Palin lose we will have to see whether Palin uses her newfound voice to call for national GOP reform or whether she sulks back to Alaska never to be heard from again, and the GOP dissolves into nothingness.

Posted by: Fate | August 29, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

She is a fabulous pick for the conservative silent majority. She's for personal responsibility in every respect including one's own financial responsibility which means less taxes. She's for keeping your sex life in your bedrooms and not making them a political spectacle. She's for getting us out of the financial mess the democrat congress has us in b/c she is for drilling. She's for our national security. She's for capitalism and not socialism which it the only thing that keeps this country alive. If this turned into a socialist country no one would work b/c there would be no reward for a job well done b/c all your money would go to taxes. No one would be able to have a pleasant life b/c we would be policed my the government. She's for freedom. I love her!

Posted by: Barbara, Seattle | August 29, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

In response to Hillary2012:

I totally agree with you... although i am fairly conservative. The democrats are extremely corrupted right now... i think they always have been personally, they just never get called on it because the media is on their side.

I mean, of all people to call out Palin for having small town routes... aren't the democrats the ones who go to the really small towns and get the workers on their side while running for office? I have always thought this was a scam... this proves it.

Also, democrats do not care for the not so rich... they want to keep them down, that is their whole plan.

Posted by: Jason | August 29, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Gov. Sarah Palin's own legislature launched a $100,000 investigation earlier this month, as the Associated Press reported, "to determine if Palin dismissed Alaska's public safety commissioner because he would not fire (a state) trooper, Mike Wooten.

Wooten went through a messy divorce from Palin's sister.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Steve,

I don't think it takes a governor's power to get a wife-beating cop fired from his job. As a police officer, I say, "Good riddance!" to scum like that! How embarrassing it will be for Democrats to defend this abuser.

Posted by: r. james | August 29, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Like Obama she only has about two-year experience on the national level. Like Obama she's well-known for being a reformer in her state. But unlike Obama, she's is positioning for the 2nd postion (that allows to have more training) than the first position (should be well-trained already). First potential women in-line for president and first potential african american president in this election, I don't think we should complain much. Cannot be better than that.


Posted by: hp | August 29, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse


Who is this lady????I bet she is no Hillary Clinton............

Posted by: Rajah | August 29, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

I dunno, I'm still caught up on this age thing...& now he goes & picks someone who is young & even more inexperienced than Obama for his veep. Just doesn't make sense to me...actually, I didn't realize quite how old John McCain was until I saw this video on YouTube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_FvFi4Vm3M. It really put his age into perspective for me. I'm still a fence sitter, so I guess we'll just have to see where things go though....

Posted by: Ray | August 29, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Although this may be McCain choice, and a safe choice at that. This pick will motivate Hillary to make sure Obama get elected. Hillary should be the first woman President or Vice President, not Sarah. The GOP has rolled the dice and they will get snake eyes.

Sorry John, Happy Birthday today but November 5th is not going to be such a Happy day.

Posted by: MitchNY | August 29, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Didn't McCain mean Michael Palin instead of Sarah Palin? Certainly a more entertaining choice!

Posted by: moke | August 29, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Gutsy move, Mav. But, is it be too late to change the VP pick? I mean, the RNC isn't until next week.

Posted by: Randy in Dallas | August 29, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Of course, it is always possible that Ms.Palin is a brilliant thinker or an inspirational leader. It is possible that despite the time needed to raise five children she has an adequate enough understanding of the World beyond Alaska to serve as President from day one--and with a 72 year old at the top of the ticket she REALLY has to be. However, until she demonstrates such qualities, there is no reason to think she will help the Republicans any more than Ferraro--the previous token woman candidate-- did for the Democrats a quarter century ago. It's almost as though. There is every reason to think that it is not a sign of strength but of panic

Posted by: Phrank | August 29, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Of course, it is always possible that Ms.Palin is a brilliant thinker or an inspirational leader. It is possible that despite the time needed to raise five children she has an adequate enough understanding of the World beyond Alaska to serve as President from day one--and with a 72 year old at the top of the ticket she REALLY has to be. However, until she demonstrates such qualities, there is no reason to think she will help the Republicans any more than Ferraro--the previous token woman candidate-- did for the Democrats a quarter century ago. It's almost as though. There is every reason to think that it is not a sign of strength but of panic

Posted by: Phrank | August 29, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

I love to see that a women is on the ticket. The McCain theory that all women want is a women on a ticket and they will vote for him is dead wrong. Women supporting Hillary loved the fact that she was a women but they stood up for her values as well. Sarah Palin holds the exact opposite of Hillary. I am really surprised that he picked a women, isn't McCain the man who consistently voted against equal pay for women and didn't he call his wife a "Wh*re". He is pandering, he is only doing this as a political stunt to get the votes, he realized that he will not win without this stunt. I say good try but I don't believe a mother with a child with downs syndrome, who need so much stability in their lives, routine, routine, routine....could choose her career over her childs needs.
I say that as a mother myself.

Posted by: motherofthree | August 29, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Interesting strategy! Who cares if Palin has no qualifications when you can pander to the far right AND give the media some meat. Apparently last night's soaring Obama speech deflated the McCain mantra that Obama was too inexperienced to lead the nation so his VP choice didn't need to protect that flank.

How sad. The McCain of 2000 had more integrity than this. Shows what happens when you spend 4 years with you head up Bush's butt.

Posted by: HJP | August 29, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, Jason because posts like yours that are based off of a fart in the wind provide so much insight.

Go back to school, adults talking here.

Use facts or quote to back up your nonsense, or it is just that...nonsense.

Read Obamas policies than spew your consiracy theories for our comedic releif.

Posted by: Still ignoring the facts huh GOP? | August 29, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

To this comment:
"John McCain could give a sh%t less about enlisted people and veterans..."

Isn't McCain's son still an enlisted man serving in Iraq "

...
You should check your facts buddy, your negative intentions for our country are only exceeded by your ignorance of the issues.

"All of John McCain's family members are on good terms with him,[21] and he has defended them against some of the negative consequences of his high-profile political lifestyle.[266][267] His family's military tradition extends to the latest generation: son John Sidney IV ("Jack") is enrolled in the U.S. Naval Academy, son James has served with the Marines in Iraq, and son Doug flew jets in the Navy.[268][2"
From:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McCain

Posted by: McCain Palin for Reform | August 29, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

You know, I remember a time when the 'experience' people were looking for was experience in things like running businesses, and not how much time you've spent as a politician.

Unlike the other three in the race, Palin actually has significant executive experience - not just as governor (where her approval ratings are sky high), but in running her own businesses. And while the other three have led cloistered lives in the Washington bubble or in academia, Palin has been working, living a middle class life, raising children, and getting the job done. Her husband is an Alaskan fisherman and oil rig worker. They're tough people.

But these days, it's seen as somehow a more important qualification that you've gone straight from school into government without gaining experience as a private citizen, as Obama and Biden pretty much did.

Posted by: Dan | August 29, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

America is truly doomed. What a weak choice for VP by McCain.

Posted by: Johna | August 29, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Barack Obama had been a state senator since 1997 -> 2004. I love how the Rupublicans gloss over his 8 years in the state senate before he became a U.S Senator in 2004. Like they don't count?

Give the man his dues!

Posted by: Ryan | August 29, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

LOL, women are not this dumb. They will not vote for McCain. This is such pathetic pandering.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:36 PM | Report abuse

I'm right there with you KMW!

Posted by: Nobama08 | August 29, 2008 1:36 PM | Report abuse

Great Choice!

Posted by: o | August 29, 2008 1:36 PM | Report abuse

lol,,lol,, Sara is gonna surprise a lot you people....

Alaska resident..

Posted by: Dave | August 29, 2008 1:36 PM | Report abuse

The comments in general are overly focused. Experiance shortcomings: now pragmatically irrelevant, reformist minded: near irrelevant. Those age- experience and pragmatism factors are just balanced. I can go on. The main spirit/ thrust to disloge "fence sitters" (who are middle or conservative Dems) is: Most left of left socialist darlings vs free market balanced with the best of the now coopted ideas of the old left. (JFK sort of). I put it to you all : M+P=54% over O+B=46%

Posted by: Jack Ian Mayer | August 29, 2008 1:37 PM | Report abuse

I'm not sure what I find more pathetic, the choice of Palin, or Republicans claiming that it's a brilliant choice. I thought McCain was supposed to be the candidate that bucked the system, and he turns out to be one that simply follows his handlers' advice to pander for a few women votes (Hillary supporters, please! do not go there) or to appease the evangelical right-wingers... yikes, this can be a scary country!

Posted by: EB | August 29, 2008 1:37 PM | Report abuse

"Okay...here's the math:

A VP causes more change for the people as a Governor in your mentioned 18 months than Obama in his 10 years.

You do the math."

I'm not sure how to break down "more change" into numbers. Can you do it for me?

Posted by: response to the "you do the math" comment | August 29, 2008 1:37 PM | Report abuse

I know Hillary Clinton. She's a friend of mine. This women is no Hillary Clinton!

Posted by: Randy in Dallas | August 29, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Yeah Ryan..then they go the other way and try to tour her experience as a Mayor of a podunk town of 7,000 as some great executive experience.

Laughable.... this Republican vacuum where they ignore facts on one side and tout lies on the other.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

People all over are saying and posting things like:

"An unknown with such little experience in government is a bad choice as V.P. Remember, the V.P. is a "heartbeat" away from the presidency. Very risky choice."

What is fantastic is that she has more experience than Obama. It is a great choice because anyone who attempts to disqualify her disqualifies Obama even more. Also it shows McCain is more about Washington outsiders and change then Obama who picked Joe Biden who is a lobbyist wet dream.

Posted by: Common Sense | August 29, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Once again the dems are trumped! When will the dems ever, ever learn?

Posted by: Gerard Barra | August 29, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

I'm not giving Obama anything, Ryan. He's going to take enough if and when he gets elected! You people are scary!

Posted by: NObama08 | August 29, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

I want to see Palin and Cindy Mccain passionately kiss each other!!

Posted by: steve | August 29, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

I am sorry but I just cant trust a man who is compelled to surround himself with former beauty queens.

Posted by: anon | August 29, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: o | August 29, 2008 1:39 PM | Report abuse

This is Dan Quayle in drag. A desperate choice. A pretty face with no experience, put there in the hopes of appealing to women.

This is was an H. W. Bush move.

Posted by: Quayle Redux | August 29, 2008 1:39 PM | Report abuse

A V.P. with little experience is far less of a concern than a PRESIDENT with little experience.

Posted by: landingll | August 29, 2008 1:39 PM | Report abuse

That is quite a stretch 1:37, to say she has done so much. She hasn't done anything worht mentioning on a VP resume.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Wow! Talk about lighting up the blog board! It's amazing to see how one announcement suddenly becomes headliner newsmaker after the rapt attention Obama got last night.

It is interesting that she doesn't have a lot of political experience. I don't know if that fact means she is a bad choice. Yeah, she's a heartbeat away, but if Obama wins, inexperience is...well...in office.

Another pondersome point: McCain and Palin appear to be more experienced unifiers. While Obama is trying to appeal across the aisle, he has NEVER voted that way. He's never walked how he has talked. McCain and Palin, on the other hand, have.

Posted by: JW | August 29, 2008 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Ladies,

McCain/Palin are picking up where Hillary left off.

Hillary, you have just BROKEN THROUGH THE GLASS CEILING by causing this to happen!!

Barack, you are so much about change but you don't show it with your actions, you made the biggest mistake of your career by not picking Hillary as VP.

Hooray!!

Go McCain/Palin '08

Posted by: Michelle | August 29, 2008 1:40 PM | Report abuse

GREAT, how can these two people talk about reforming corruption when McCain & Palin are sponsored by Bill Kristol (PNAC: Project for the New American Century) and Karl Rove. McCain/Palin=Neocon Deception.

Posted by: Christopher London | August 29, 2008 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Soory Anon, but not when she is a heartbeat away from the Presidency run by an old man with cancer who can die at any time.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:40 PM | Report abuse

As someone said, McCain has really chosen to go on the offensive with this one. Great choice, John!

Palin has more experience of actually governing than living god Obama. Besides, remembember folks that it is the President that takes all the decisions!!! The Vice-president simply represents him at some social functions. I trust McCain to take decisions in time of war, such as we are living.

With the Obama camp the relation is opposite: Biden is the teacher, while Obama is cool, slick-tongued, but completely unexperienced.

I was undecided (often leaning Democrat), but the cult of personality we saw in Denver (a Greek temple with a huge Obama screen in the center & Obama hymns by a slate of artists) made me sick. Dictators from Stalin to Fidel Castro and Chavez would be rightfully jelous.

PS: A sure sign of personality cult is when even your acknowledged political adversaries are obliged to sing you hyms and praises. How many people actually thought the show of support by the Clintons was not hypocritical?

Posted by: A very interesting choice | August 29, 2008 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Palin simply is not qualified to be vice-president:
First, the state of Alaska is so small and insignificant, being roughly the size of Delaware in population.
Next, She comes from a place that has serious corruption problems, although its not as bad, as say, Chicago.
Lastly, She has less experience in government and foreign policy, than McCain and Biden.

Terry

Posted by: Terry | August 29, 2008 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Gov. Sarah Palin's own legislature launched a $100,000 investigation earlier this month, as the Associated Press reported, "to determine if Palin dismissed Alaska's public safety commissioner because he would not fire (a state) trooper, Mike Wooten.

Wooten went through a messy divorce from Palin's sister.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

What a senile maverick! After McCain and his lobbyist adviser group touted how McCain would pick a VP who can lead the country in case something happens, he flip-flops and does just the opposite. McCain had 72 year old stroke of genius and decided that the VP of our country should be the eskimo lady whos only prior experience is being mayor of a town of 9,000 people in Alaska. This shows that McCain does not have the judgment to be president. I'm glad these two will be left in the wilderness with Bush and Cheney come November.

Posted by: TheEskimosAreComing! | August 29, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

I can't believe how some dumb posts question Palin's experience. Look at your democratic nominee. People are ignorant.
What a media circus when Obama spoke at the Democractic convention, tears and all. Typical waste of money. We need less waste in government. Palin will help McCann achieve it.

Posted by: Rick | August 29, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

I like how just because she's a woman, means she was only picked because she's a woman. Hillary isn't as successful as she is just because she's a woman, and neither is Governor Palin.
I'm encouraged by her record as a reformer in a state known for corruption, it backs up McCain's stance as a maverick in an often corrupt Congress.
And it's silly to criticize McCain's pick as simply political, why do you think Obama picked Biden? because he has the foreign policy exp. Obama needs. They both picked people they had respect for and that aid their cause. That's what they are supposed to do.
And as for the questions about Palin and the investigation of the firing of her former brother-in-law, from what I read she has been open and welcome to the investigation saying she has nothing to hide. Also, it appears this man threatened his father-in-law and tasered his step-son, so when the whole story is brought to light I doubt he'll get much sympathy.

Posted by: Kevi | August 29, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

I think this was a bad pick!! She is an unknown. Not to mention, she just had a baby in April that has special needs (down syndrome)!! She should be nursing her baby!! How in the world can she find time to be a good mother to a new born and be the VP?!! She needs to get her own priorities straight before she starts prioritizing for the country!! He should have picked Romney!! It's not over yet!! We will just have to see what happens at the convention.

Posted by: Al Burgess | August 29, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

"I'm laughing at the "heartbeat away" argument from the Dems on here. What makes it so very funny is their argument questioning how anyone with so little service could be a heartbeat away from the Presidency, when the Democratic candidate is probably the most inexperienced nominee in history."

Well.....there is that.

Posted by: Nectanebus | August 29, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

She's hot. I think I'll be able to stand looking at her for 8 years.

Posted by: john | August 29, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Hey Steve - I bet that is what McCain is hoping for as well

Posted by: Anon | August 29, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

"Like Obama she only has about two-year experience on the national level"

2006 is not 2004, and being governor of a state is not national (or Federal) experience. Its state-wide experience.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

She's a female Teddy Roosevelt. She hunts, she fishes, she plays sports, she's a reformer. And maybe someday, she'll get to carry the big stick.

Posted by: Bwana Doc | August 29, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

I would rather have an inexperienced VP than an inexperienced President. This is a kick ass choice and one that will hit the Democratic party in the ass. This VP's husband is a business owner. What is Obama's wife's job? She has been sitting on a hospital board doing nothing for a six figure salary that was doubled after her husband became senator less than 4 years ago.

Posted by: elwizard | August 29, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Neocons just threw this election.

4 MORE MONTHS!!!!

Obama '08

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Gov. Sarah Palin's own legislature launched a $100,000 investigation earlier this month, as the Associated Press reported, "to determine if Palin dismissed Alaska's public safety commissioner because he would not fire (a state) trooper, Mike Wooten.

Wooten went through a messy divorce from Palin's sister.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Obama who? He is an elitist in liberal agenda.

First term as a senator? True.

What has he run? Nothing.

Governor Palin is in charge of the whole state, small or not she is the CEO.

As a senator, Obama gets to express his opinion but has to deal with the reast of the egos in the Senate. He is not in control.

This is a great addition to the McCain camp and hopefully Governor Palin will help clean things up. And we all know how corrupt Washington, D.C. has gotten.

Posted by: Joe G. | August 29, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

What great choices this election year. Soft fascism or soft fascism. America is a dying beast. It is a slow and painful bleed for America with Obama or a quick death of America with McCain. I'm voting for McCain. Hope everyone can learn to speak Chinese.

Posted by: Johna | August 29, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

I am a woman registered "independent"--and am truly an independent thinker and voter--and I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE this ticket. If you don't think she has the experience to be VP--than what the blank blank experience does Obama have to be the PRESIDENT???? At least she's serving in an executive position--unlike the JUNIOR senator from the corrupt halls of Chicago (btw-more will come out about his ties with that corrupt machine over there). YES he was groomed by and chosen by the Democratic National Party--Hillary just got in their way. Obama=corruption and NO EXPERIENCE Sarah=HIGHEST CHARACTER INTEGRITY -and if she has the good judgement to make those kind of choices in her own life--it says a lot about the good choices she'll make as VP and maybe, hopefully, president someday, too. A WOMAN!!! I love it!!!

Posted by: LRez | August 29, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

"Good posts":

You are being unfair. An investigation is not a verdict. In our country one has always been innocent until proven guilty, eh? Palin has said there's nothing in that accusation against her, and I would be surprised if McCain's campaign has not completely vetted that one. I'm sure from my reading up on her that she's made plenty of enemies who could be responsible for starting something against her.

If it turns out that she has done something seriously wrong I am sure that we will all have to reconsider her qualifications for VP.

Until then, I am not going to condemn her on that accusation, and neither should any American who believes in our system of government.

Posted by: AHockeyMom | August 29, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

I love how Anonymous at 1:30 says calling dems socialist is "dumb" and then the very next post is a dem voting for Obama solely for a socialist health-care system. Honestly, we can't parody you guys anymore.

Posted by: brainy435 | August 29, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

This woman at least can relate to most women's issues. Although I was a Hilary supporter, I never did feel comfortable that she had all that experience. I think Mccain can relate with his age to the poor guys that still have to work and get discriminated against. I am also tired of the she was Miss Alaska crap. Of course someone pretty can't have brains. She has more challenges because Obama experience vs her experience and he obviously has exceptions. A mother who can relate to a child going to Iraq and a child with down syndrome. These are experience that make someone able to relate to you. Her husband earned a purple heart. Mccain was a POW. Fighting for the very rights we have today. When are guards are down, so were the Twin towers. There is a lot to do and as Hilary stated Obama is given the great speech that he gave in 2002. He wants to stop the current tax break that will effect our middle class. Read it. So I would say for Sarah, you made progress in two years fixing corruption. Give her a chance for Washington. That's Mccain. I want a woman in the office to fight for all mothers.

Posted by: For all women | August 29, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Old man McCain like so many in his party admires beauty queens. Look at Bob Dole, Strom Thurmond and McCain's wife cindy. Gov. Palin brings the complete package to the ideas deficient Republican party, beauty and oil. Rock on baby!

Posted by: Tom in Alabama | August 29, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Can a Hillary supporter who now supports McCain please explain their thought process to me?? Was it all about getting a woman elected or did you ever care about the issues?

Posted by: Confused | August 29, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

This message is in response to Rhea, rhea I want you to tell me what qualifies father time to be president also someone with no executive experience. It's simple the american people are hungry for change, OBAMA/BIDEN '08

Posted by: Freedomfighter | August 29, 2008 1:44 PM | Report abuse

The arguement is not that she is inexperienced, it is that you are hypocrits by claiming Obama is when she actually has LESS expereicne

Go ahead, spin the Governonr bit, as is Alaska were some important state.


God, do we have to spell out everything for you idiots?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Is the media going to look into the Legislative investigation of Governor Palin for abusing her authority in order the firing of her state trooper ex-brother-in-law? This is tarnishing her reformist credentials in Alaska and an investigator is looking into whether she fired the State Director of Public Safety for not firing the brother-in-law, who is in a messy divorce custody battle with the Palin family. I look forward to the national media coverage of this issue. It goes to the inexperienced Governor Palin's fitness for office.

Posted by: Chuck | August 29, 2008 1:44 PM | Report abuse

From a PR point of view, the pick is brilliant. Which is really all this entire election business is about anyway.

Posted by: MyCulture9 | August 29, 2008 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Ha! GAME OVER!!

Say it with me now...

President Obama

Feels good, doesn't it?

Posted by: Andrew | August 29, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Rhea, Obama has the EXACT same experience that Abrahma Lincoln had. 8 years state senate and 2 years federal.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

How is McCain qualified again?

POW does not make you a President.

Obama has done more in his 10 years in office than McCain has in his entire carrer in the Senate.

Posted by: Keep drinking the Kool-aid | August 29, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

To the person who called McCain a flip flopper:

You listed the following:
Tax Cuts
Immigration
Confederate Flag
Oil Drilling
Torture

All the things on the list you would be an idiot to vote the same every time.

Tax cuts are subjective to what the economy needs. It would be dumb to cut taxes in every situation.

Immigration is also subjective. Did you want a President who would just never look at each situation and try to make a judgement. Did you want someone who is already decided regardless?

Confederate flag...oh there's an important issue.

Oil drilling. Who in their right mind would not pick and choose what to do about oil drilling based upon the current need? Again, subjective to the need.

Torture. Again, subjective on what is needed and what the purpose is. If its to get information that will save numerous lives...maybe it is necessary, maybe it is not. Who would decide that until the situation arises.

Conclusion: If you're going to call someone a flip flopper do it with an issue that remains consistent. A judgment call is not a flip flop...it's called doing your job.

Posted by: Erik | August 29, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Another pondersome point: McCain and Palin appear to be more experienced unifiers. While Obama is trying to appeal across the aisle, he has NEVER voted that way. He's never walked how he has talked. McCain and Palin, on the other hand, have.

Posted by: JW | August 29, 2008 1:39 PM

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Really? So voting for neo-con GW policies 90% of the time is reaching across the Isle? last time i check Obama has sponsored and co-sposored more bipartisian bills in Senate than McCain has in nearly the last 9 years. Hear of Lugar have you? How has Palin been Bipartisian???!....would LOVE LOVE to hear about that. Please....dont pretend you know a thing about this woman. And with the number of flip-flops and far right pandering McCain has shown in the last two years i dont think you know much about him anymore either.

Posted by: feastorafamine | August 29, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

The only way to be experienced is to have been president already.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

"mmm...inexperienced VP Palin or inexperienced President Obama...I wonder what my pick will be?"

Posted by: BK | August 29, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Palin's own legislature launched a $100,000 investigation earlier this month, as the Associated Press reported, "to determine if Palin dismissed Alaska's public safety commissioner because he would not fire (a state) trooper, Mike Wooten.

Wooten went through a messy divorce from Palin's sister.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Palin seems like a brilliant pick by McCain. McCain's pick in VP stands in stark contrast to Obama's pick in Biden. When I heard Obama picked Biden, I thought, Wow, the democrats really want to sabotage themselves.

I'm a democrat and I've always been liberal, however, this year, i'm seriously considering voting for Mccain.

I completely disregard the criticism that Palin is too inexperienced because while she IS inexperienced, I think Obama's camp should be the last to cast stones on that regard. Her experience is comparable to Obama's near non-existent voting record in the senate. Except unlike Obama, she's made major changes in Alaska, all to the great benefit of the Alaskans. I love it when a politician sweeps house and paint giant targets on corrupted officials.

I've been thoroughly disgusted with both the republican and democratic party recently. With the John Edward sex scandal that's come to light recently, I'm convinced the democratic party no longer has the morale standing to accuse republicans of being evil.

So yes, this year i'm seriously considering voting republican. I am however, completely pro-choice. So both Palin and Mccain's decision to be pro-life greatly disturbs me. I believe the right to choose is a private matter because no one but the woman is going to be living with the consequences. If the government truly wants to reduce the need for abortion, then the government needs to crack down on rapists and make contraceptives easily available.

Posted by: (XD) | August 29, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

People - Bush was elected ...twice! Arguments about relative merits of VP and President are meaningless. Alas, we are a country of sheep, easily swayed by slogans and scare tactics. So it will be McCain because the Reps are geniuses at this. An Obama comes along once in a generation. What will history say about this missed opportunity.

Posted by: Tess | August 29, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

All I know is once women find out she is rabidly pro-life/anti-choice.....her pool of support amognst those voters McCain is obviously pandering to is gonna SHRINK SHRink Shrink shrink :(

Posted by: Ryan | August 29, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

I hate to say it, but I think Obama is going to lose. This election should be a shoe in, but Obama is a bit too left for most of America.

Had the Democrats nominated a more centrist candidate (God only knows who), with everything going on they should get 55% plus of the vote.

As it stands now, I think McCain will probably squeek by...

Posted by: Brian Danza | August 29, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Getting over the massive rep/dem debate on this, has anyone noticed both sides have one newcomer? Rep: Palin Dem:Obama

Posted by: John | August 29, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

I can't believe you people question her experience. At least she has 2 years experience in the Executive branch of a state - she has actually governed! Obama has NO executive eperience! What do you think qualifies him to be PRESIDENT? Other than Tax & spend. Obama want's everyone to achieve the dream? What? He wants all Americans to be successful & make $250k a year so he can tax/take half of it.

Posted by: Anthony Robert | August 29, 2008 1:47 PM | Report abuse

The sexist double standard of the new democratic party. Palin has more years of executive experience than Obama does. Yet they crow about her being "a heartbeat away"

The new democrats have no place for women. This is the change we have been waiting for?

Posted by: Hillary2012 | August 29, 2008 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Thank You Senator McCain for handing Democrats the keys to the White House. You just dismantled your entire argument against Obama...lack of experience. Most Hillary supporters I know are now insulted because of the OBVIOUS pandering. Also, I would like to address For All Women, if you were really progressive, why would you even state that this woman can have brains and be pretty? She's not all that smart, have you heard her speak...OH YES WE CAN.

Posted by: Zion | August 29, 2008 1:47 PM | Report abuse

I understand she is a supporter of teaching creationism as science--just what we need to cure America's waning technical competitiveness and loss of tech jobs.

Posted by: swheelock | August 29, 2008 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Are you kidding me? Sarah who? I was waiting for John to emergize our party with Mitt Romney as VP. McCain knows nothing about the economy which is going to be the main issue for this election and Mitt would have taken Joe Biden apart. Now the opposite is true when Joe takes the little girl from Alaska to school. What a waste. I will seat this out.

Posted by: John Lawson | August 29, 2008 1:47 PM | Report abuse

@BK. how long have you bene in your job?

10 years in expereinced to me.

Abraham Lincoln did a fine job with his 10 years.

Bush did a terrible job with his experience.

How is your argument valid again?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

From a PR point of view, the pick is brilliant. Which is really all this entire election business is about anyway.

Posted by: MyCulture9 | August 29, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Wow! Sarah Palin.

Here's a girl who IS going somewhere.
Ted Nugent sans guitars in a skirt w/ a tiara! Rock On Sister!

Family Girl. Pro Life. Anti-graft-anti waste. Pro-Constitution. A girl who earned her own tuition for college apparently. Right On.

Palin vs. Obama for experience?

Barrack is a US Senator but was never there.

Sarah runs ALASKA.

The DEMS are going to yell, 'Obama has more experience than Palin.'

BUT Palin's not running for Pres., McCain is, so that doesn't fly very far. How many VP's have had to step up other then after a President is killed in office? Three I can think of. And JM is healthy. George Burns partied 'til he was a hundred sumthin'. That's what we folks do these days. If 50 is the new 30, then JM is only in his late 50's. So the the odds are pretty slim that Gov. Palin will have to be Pres. this time around.

So what do we have?
1. A hockey Mom with a son going to Iraq.
2. A pro-lifer who brought her youngest into the world knowing there were complications.
3. A woman who has successfully balanced family and career.
4. A governor who slammed the brakes on useless spending and corporate favors in Alaska.
5. A governor who is pro-small business.
6. A woman who believes in our Constitution.
7. A girl from a small town who will remember the lessons and experiences only a small town can impart.
8. A politician who may not be able to be bought. There's a refreshing concept.
9. A hell raiser to get the job done.
10. A candidate who really truly believes that America comes first.

The DEMS/LIBS are screaming 'WE WANT CHANGE'

Be careful what you wish for, because with Sarah Palin, I think you might just get it.

Is that the sun peaking through the clouds?


Posted by: Kentucky Thunder | August 29, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

palin has more experiance then obama, she has been in government for 16 years, as a mayor and as governer, she has actually run something unlike obama and his community organizer record,

Posted by: tom | August 29, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Hillary2012, McCain voted against the Violence Against Women Bill..Hey talk about change you can run from..

Posted by: Phoenix | August 29, 2008 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Palin would probably make a better president than Obama or McCain. She's a very impressive lady.
Even though she personally has strong conservative values she doesn't believe it is the governments business to inflict her values on the people. Read up on how she surprised her party by making sure same-sex couples received full benefits.
She has repeatedly beat up on big Oil interests and the corrupt Alaska Republican party - indeed she has had more success with this than any Democrat I can think of. Democrats talk big, but Palin gets things done.

Posted by: JS | August 29, 2008 1:49 PM | Report abuse

18 months as Governor of Alaska that's like a day and a half right?

Posted by: dale | August 29, 2008 1:49 PM | Report abuse

OK, I have to say it. Every time I read a post saying "Palin is no Hillary" I can't help myself. I have to say I can live with that. I'm a woman with a post-grad degree, who's been both a professional and a stay-at-home mom. I am THRILLED to see a successful butt-kicking effective intelligent and interesting person on the Republican ticket...that she's a woman is just icing on the cake to me.

Posted by: AHockeyMom | August 29, 2008 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Lincoln and Obama have the same resume.

How is this experience argument valid?

I don't get it.

Bush was experienced.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:49 PM | Report abuse

And just how many votes did Biden get in his election from the dinky little State of Delaware? Population is almost the same as Alaska's. How refreshing to have a women who made it on her own rather than riding her husband's coat tails for most of her political life!

Posted by: mesabi | August 29, 2008 1:49 PM | Report abuse

"I'm laughing at the "heartbeat away" argument from the Dems on here. What makes it so very funny is their argument questioning how anyone with so little service could be a heartbeat away from the Presidency, when the Democratic candidate is probably the most inexperienced nominee in history."

Sorry, try a new approach, your candidate gave this one up when he picked someone who no one knows.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:50 PM | Report abuse

As a long-time conservative Republican, I could not be MORE pleased with McCain's choice of Palin as VP. If the country is TRULY interested in "change," as the Democrats keep trumpeting, there can be no better choice for the next President than McCain/Palin. BRAVO for McCain!

Posted by: Dennis | August 29, 2008 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Let's be honest - the only peeps that don't like Palin:

1a) Obama lovers because she has more experience actually governing something.

1b) Obama lovers because they realize she's going to get the spotlight as much as Obama is now.

2) Right-wing loonies

3) 'Crats because she's better looking than any female candidate they can come up with.

4) Right-wingers who want the old guard to stay and the status quo.

VOTE FOR REAL CHANGE - MCCAIN/PALIN IN 2008. VOTE FOR SOCIALIST CHANGE - VOTE OBAMA/BIDEN 2008

Posted by: Face it - you like Palin | August 29, 2008 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Wow... if I was a Clinton supporter, I would be really offended. This is obviously an attempt to capture some of the disenfrenchised Clinton supporters by nominating a woman. Sure, she has those 2 X chromosomes but is she anywhere near as qualified as Clinton? It's stereotyping woman voters as being uneducated emotional driven voters who will vote for Palin JUST because she's a woman. I like McCain but this VP really sours this ticket up.

Posted by: duff_beer | August 29, 2008 1:50 PM | Report abuse

McCain's executive experience?????
ya know..the one RUNNING for PRESIDENT?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

I'm hoping that we double the size of the debt under McCain. Make the American dollar as worthless as the peso.

Posted by: Johna | August 29, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin has more executive experience than both Obama and Biden. Obama has
no experience other than being a politician
and the same can be said of Sen. Biden.
Sarah Palin has the experience of being a business owner, councilwoman, mayor and now is the govenor of Alaska.

I view her as an extreamly qualified choice
for V.P.

Posted by: Maurice | August 29, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Because AhockeyMom..Palin is NO Hillary.

Hillary stand for womens right and has had a national presence in politics for over 20 years.

Palin is anti-choice and has 2 years running the most unimportant state in the nation, and a few year a mayor of some ghost town with 7,000 people.

I don;t even think you are a woman. Women are not that dumb to just blindly vote for a female, no matter who they are.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Um, Obama has NO executive experience. Palin has 7 years of executive experience in Alaska.

How, exactly, is that hypocrital?

Posted by: brainy435 | August 29, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

LOL, Obama should have picked Hillary for VP, now I will vote for McCaine.

Posted by: Hillary 08 | August 29, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

She is smoking hot.
Hot wife, now a hot VP.
John McCain is the next Hugh Hefner

Posted by: OKBYME | August 29, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Also, I had to laugh that you mentioned McCain was a flip flopper on torture. Who is more well qualified to make a proper judgment that someone who has been through REAL torture?

Posted by: Erik | August 29, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Choosing a female veep didn't work for Mondale. It won't work for McCain.

Posted by: old_hippie | August 29, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

All the same. Those Obama Gods start treating Palin like they did to Hilary.

Posted by: jy2008 | August 29, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Sarah does nothing for the reps, Obama is ready to lead us into the future. Never mind him being African American, he represents the vast majority of Americans. You see this devisiveness won't work. Racism is over in America thank you very much.

Posted by: freedomfighter | August 29, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

@Maurice...last I checked, Governors were politicians too

Obama has 10 years of experience. So did Lincoln. You point is moot.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

"Let's be honest - the only peeps that don't like Palin:

1a) Obama lovers because she has more experience actually governing something.

1b) Obama lovers because they realize she's going to get the spotlight as much as Obama is now.

2) Right-wing loonies

3) 'Crats because she's better looking than any female candidate they can come up with.

4) Right-wingers who want the old guard to stay and the status quo."

Gee, that seems like a LOT of AMERICANS

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Nectanebus says:
"I'm laughing at the "heartbeat away" argument from the Dems on here"

Laugh away. The argument is not that Gov Palin is inexperienced. The argument is that this choice completely undercuts McCain's claim that Obama is "dangerously inexperienced" for the job.

Clearly, the most important job requirement for VP is being qualified to be President (especially when the President is in his seventies!). How can McCain possibly resolve the glaring hypocracy of his criticism of Obama as too inexperienced, with his own choice of Palin as a potential successor if he should become incapacitated?

I think this choice will backfire major.

Posted by: John from CA | August 29, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

What qualifies her to be VP?

First off, executive political experience (Governor), something that very few candidates these days have (See Obama…). Second, she has experience in the private sector. Third, in both of the aforementioned, she's succeeded in motivating the people in her charge and battling corruption (like that which runs wild in D.C. at the moment).

So then toss in personal perks… Like the fact that the worst thing anyone has on her is allegedly trying to get a trooper fired, which, I mean come on, pales in comparison to drug addiction (Obama), lying to an entire nation (Bush), or being political distant to ordinary Americans (Biden). Or the fact that she's a strong, moral Woman who earned a scholarship, went to school, and now champions the needs of real American women without selling out to the far left (or right).

I was hopping McCain would choose a VP of this caliber and I fully support this ticket. As a moderate guy myself, I think as a team they will actually look out for everyone and not pander to either political extreme (hi Obama). I was really hopping Hillary would win the Dem's nomination, but with this pick, I know were my vote is going this time around.

Posted by: Mat, Seattle | August 29, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

I am a Democrat but Obama has been all smoke & mirrors, always abstaining when it came to important votes, and after what his staff did to Hillary at the convention that was the final nail. Sarah Palin is someone all women can get behind. John McCain hit a Home Run & I am voting Republican for the first time ever in 30 years!

Posted by: Carol Baker | August 29, 2008 1:53 PM | Report abuse

a GREAT pick by mccain. next he has to get himself unentangled from the rove/wolfowitz/feith/cheney crew that has sold this country to the highest bidder. wouldn't it be great to see the new VP head an investigation and prosecution of the crooks that have run this country for the past 8 years. you know none of the DC insiders (republicans or democrats) are going to do it, congress is complicit with the imperial presidency. it'll need to be done by the republicans or democrats outside the beltway, or a third party, like nader.

Posted by: bobby | August 29, 2008 1:53 PM | Report abuse

I'm so tired of listening to the ridiculous logic that someone must be old or well-connected to the Washington establishment in order to be a "heartbeat away from the Presidency".

The President is not a king (despite the fact that Bush may think so). The President has a very large support staff, the Congress, the Governors, and ordinary citizens to help out as needed. The main requirements to be a "heartbeat away from the Presidency" are to be honest, of sound mind, and to execute business under the rule of law and the Constitution. That's it!!

Posted by: J. Wilson | August 29, 2008 1:53 PM | Report abuse

McCain Palin 2008. These two are going all the way to the white house. God forbid Mr.Obama wins this upcoming election. I totally do not understand why so many Black Americans are supporting this radical dude, Barak Obama. As an African person, it saddens me that people in the year 2007 will support a candidate just because they have the bloody skin color. And lastly, I do not know how a person could be a Christian and agree with abortion. Such as, bogus Catholics like Nancy Pelosi, John Kerry,etcccc. I am glad Palin is totally pro-life, just like me..

Posted by: Ayodeji | August 29, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

JElizabth wrote: "...But my heart is with McCain and now Palin. Both have walked the talk for changing business as usual in government, fighting against corruption even at personal and professional risk to themselves."

Need I remind everyone of the Keating Five scandel that even McCain said was a "mistake".

Need I remind everyone that Palin is under investigation by her legislature for an improper firing?

There is nothing worse than an uninformed electorate.

Posted by: Fate | August 29, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Palin has a retarded child. That means she has something in common with the American voter. :) I like that.

Posted by: Johna | August 29, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

"OK, I have to say it. Every time I read a post saying "Palin is no Hillary" I can't help myself. I have to say I can live with that. I'm a woman with a post-grad degree, who's been both a professional and a stay-at-home mom. I am THRILLED to see a successful butt-kicking effective intelligent and interesting person on the Republican ticket...that she's a woman is just icing on the cake to me."

If you had payed any attention to recent politics, you would know that Hillary is liberal and Palin is conservative. That is why they are different.

Look at their policies:

If you like freedom of choice, universal affordable healthcare, or renewable energy, you still want to listen to Hillary and vote for Obama.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Oh, dear. This just might rub salt into the wounds of those Hillary supporters McCain was desperately trying to win over. It appears that Ms. Palin is kind of the anti-Hillary candidate.

Hillary's supporters were so very strong because Hillary is so very qualified--simply jaw-droppingly knowledgeable. It wasn't merely that Hillary is a woman.

To think that there is now a possibility that Hillary's chance at the presidency could be filled by an unknown, inexperienced, ultra-conservative person simply because that person is a woman, well, it's gonna sting big-time.

Women aren't just pegs to be dropped into slots. Women aren't fungible.

For a while there it appeared that Mr. McCain had a chance of winning over all the PUMAs and unreconciled Hillary supporters, but this probably just put an end to that chance.

Posted by: CactusBloom | August 29, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

@brainy435 Because being mayor of a podunk town is not real experience compared to travelling the entire state for 8 years passing laws that help working class citizens in real life.

Alaska is not even important, for any reason: business, resources, or votes...

Posted by: Seriously? | August 29, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

20 years Obama sat in church and listened to a racist ministerm degrade the best country in the world, and you think none of this rubbed off. Give me a break!


Google: Jeremiah Right

Posted by: Nobama08 | August 29, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

I'm surprised by McSame's choice for a VP but maybe I shouldn't be, when you consider his choices, maybe we shouldn't be surprised.

A. Mitt Romney? Another rich white guy with no real connection to the struggling American middle-class, and oh yeah, a Mormon.

B. Joe Lieberman? Can't make up his mind if he's a Republican or a Democrat with too many enemies on both sides, pro-choice and oh, yeah, wrong religion again.

C. Tim Pawlenti? Tim who? I'm not even sure if I'm spelling his name right. That's how little known he is.

D. Bobby Jindal? If you're white and won't vote for Obama because he's brown and has a funny sounding name, will you really vote for another brown-skinned guy with another funny sounding name? Not likely.

E. Mike Huckabee? How could you possibly drive away any and all Hillary Clinton Democrats who were considering voting for McCain? It's easy; pick Huckabee.

On the other hand, polls show that if the Obama and Clinton Democrats come together, the Democrats will win the election. They seemed to come together this week in Denver. The best way to defeat Obama is to siphon off the women's vote from the Democratic party and I think this explains McCain's choice best of all. His pick however, lacks the stature, gravitas of Hillary Clinton, who summed it up best the other night; "No way; no how; no McCain!"

Obama Rocks!

Posted by: The Strategist | August 29, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Way to go, McCain! Checkmate!! Enjoy the White House.

Posted by: Hooray!!! | August 29, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse

"Palin is too inexperienced."

HAHAH - Obama is some grizzled veteran right? It's not a good sign when a potential VP has more experience than a potential Pres.

"Obama is about CHANGE"..

..yet he picks some old White guy as his running mate. BRAVO, meanwhile McCain goes bold and picks Palin.

If Billary was picked as Obama's VP candidate, the 'Crats WOULD LOUDLY BE TRUMPETING how historic of a moment it is.

Instead - they think Palin is McCain's death knell.. LOL. Keep underestimating McCain u 'Crats. What should've been a landslide for Obama is now turning into long drawn out war because of Obama's poor showings of STANDING FOR NOTHING and picking a VP that is known for his verbiage than his polices.

Posted by: Remember- ONLY 'CRATS CAN DOUBLESPEAK | August 29, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Bring on the VP DEBATES! Biden will shred this chick. I'm guessing that Biden will want to keep the talk about foreign policy, and how to keep your turkey from drying out.

Posted by: Quayle Redux | August 29, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse

By the way OBAMA/BIDEN'08

Posted by: freedomfighter | August 29, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Ir Mc Cain was going to pick a woman he should have picked Monica Lewinsky. At least she has experience with the inner workings of the presidency. If he was going to pick a Palin, he should have picked Michael from Monty Python. This choice is downright laughable!

Posted by: Bob L | August 29, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Palin actually does have experience. Anyone who fights the old guard learns quickly. And she appears to be a reformer.

BUT, I hate her environment values. She seems to be a conservative reformer but still with traditional Republican values.

Personally, I hate "political experience". We need good, smart people and that seldom includes politicians. Obama appeals due to his LACK of experience yet he appears to be capable and smart. That is what we need.

Posted by: John | August 29, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

What a wonderful choice by McCain.


I am a former Clinton follower that will now vote for McCain.

Posted by: Ashley | August 29, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Watching Obama last night was like watching Germany in 1930's! Scary, Scary, Scary....... Hilter sold the German people lots of change and hope too and where did it get them. Stop the Drama NO 08 for Obama.
McCain/Palin will do just great. I am proud that this women decided to keep her baby and not kill it because it was not perfect! What a brave lady. Palin speaks from her heart and has lots of love for her family too. We need more people like this in office and not these elite people. Between the two of them, they will stop the waste of money in the gov. We need to pay off the 9 trillon dollar debt before we start more programs that put this country in more debt.

Posted by: Bjohnson | August 29, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

I agree, compared to Palin, Biden is a better baby sitter.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

"JElizabth wrote: "...But my heart is with McCain and now Palin. Both have walked the talk for changing business as usual in government, fighting against corruption even at personal and professional risk to themselves."

Need I remind everyone of the Keating Five scandel that even McCain said was a "mistake".

Need I remind everyone that Palin is under investigation by her legislature for an improper firing?

There is nothing worse than an uninformed electorate. "

Actually there is, a wrongly informed eloctorate is worse the uninformed electorate.

At least people that don't know any better have a 50/50 chance. The people that believe lies are doomed to pick wrong.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Obama scares me.

Posted by: Sam | August 29, 2008 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Here are just some of the examples of why and how McCain has sold his soul, flip-flopped to garner conservative support, and lost all credibility in terms of his “straight talk” moniker. If completely reversing and changing your mind about issues, sometimes in a span of 24 hours, is straight talk, I guess McCain is straight up kooky. Is Palin a pick on the merits? Or is it a sad attempt to scoop up an electorate?
* McCain pledged in February 2008 that he would not, under any circumstances, raise taxes. Specifically, McCain was asked if he is a “‘read my lips’ candidate, no new taxes, no matter what?” referring to George H.W. Bush’s 1988 pledge. “No new taxes,” McCain responded. Two weeks later, McCain said, “I’m not making a ‘read my lips’ statement, in that I will not raise taxes.”
* McCain claims to have considered and not considered joining John Kerry’s Democratic ticket in 2004.
* McCain’s first mortgage plan was premised on the notion that homeowners facing foreclosure shouldn’t be “rewarded” for acting “irresponsibly.” He also praised the George W. Bush administration's handling of the crisis. His second mortgage plan took largely the opposite position.
* McCain’s campaign unveiled a Social Security policy that the senator would implement if elected, which did not include a Bush-like privatization scheme. In March 2008, McCain denounced his own campaign’s policy.
* In February 2008, McCain reversed course on prohibiting waterboarding.
* In November 2007, McCain reversed his previous position on a long-term presence for U.S. troops in Iraq, arguing that the “nature of the society in Iraq” and the “religious aspects” of the country make it inevitable that the United States “eventually withdraws.” Two months later, McCain reversed back, saying he’s prepared to leave U.S. troops in Iraq for 100 years. On time tables for withdrawal - Republican John McCain, in a speech forecasting what the country would look like after his first term in office, said May 15th that he expects the war in Iraq to be won and most troops to be home by January 2013. The prediction marks a major departure for McCain, who railed against rival Mitt Romney shortly before the Florida primary for his remark in April 2007 that he thought President Bush and Iraqi leaders should privately discuss a timetable for withdrawing troops from Iraq. At the time, McCain suggested that the comment would embolden America's foes in Iraq. The Arizona senator leveled the same criticism at Democratic Sens. Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton, stating that their advocacy for withdrawing troops from Iraq amounted to setting a date for "surrender."
* McCain was a co-sponsor of the DREAM Act, which would grant legal status to illegal immigrants’ kids who graduate from high school. Now he’s against it.
* On immigration policy in general, McCain announced in February 2008 that he would vote against his own legislation.
* In 2006, McCain sponsored legislation to require grassroots lobbying coalitions to reveal their financial donors. In 2007, after receiving “feedback” on the proposal, McCain told far-right activist groups that he opposes his own measure.
* McCain said before the war in Iraq, “We will win this conflict. We will win it easily.” Four years later, McCain said he knew all along that the war in Iraq war was “probably going to be long and hard and tough.”
* McCain went from saying he would not support repeal of Roe v. Wade to saying the exact opposite.
* McCain went from saying homosexual marriage should be allowed, to saying homosexual marriage shouldn’t be allowed.
* McCain criticized TV preacher Jerry Falwell as well as Pastor John Hagee as “agents of intolerance” in 2002, but then decided to cozy up to the men who said Americans “deserved” the 9/11 attacks, Katrina was God’s punishment on us for homosexuality, and that the catholic church was the “great wh*re”
* McCain used to oppose Bush’s tax cuts for the very wealthy, but he reversed course in February 2008
* McCain supported a major campaign-finance reform measure that bore his name. In June 2007, he abandoned his own legislation.
* McCain opposed a holiday to honor Martin Luther King, Jr., before he supported it.
* McCain was anti-ethanol. Now he’s pro-ethanol.
* McCain was both for and against state promotion of the Confederate flag.
* McCain flip-flops on Hamas-
"They're the government; sooner or later we are going to have to deal with them, one way or another," he said at the time. "And I understand why this administration and previous administrations had such antipathy towards Hamas because of their dedication to violence and the things that they not only espouse but practice ...
"But it's a new reality in the Middle East. I think the lesson is people want security and a decent life and decent future, that they want democracy. Fatah was not giving them that."
January 2006 – John McCain
Then in May 2008 McCain labels himself Hamas’s “Worst nightmare” and vows to never negotiate with Hamas.
Here are just some of the examples of why and how McCain has sold his soul, flip-flopped to garner conservative support, and lost all credibility in terms of his “straight talk” moniker. If completely reversing and changing your mind about issues, sometimes in a span of 24 hours, is straight talk, I guess McCain is straight up kooky.
* McCain pledged in February 2008 that he would not, under any circumstances, raise taxes. Specifically, McCain was asked if he is a “‘read my lips’ candidate, no new taxes, no matter what?” referring to George H.W. Bush’s 1988 pledge. “No new taxes,” McCain responded. Two weeks later, McCain said, “I’m not making a ‘read my lips’ statement, in that I will not raise taxes.”
* McCain claims to have considered and not considered joining John Kerry’s Democratic ticket in 2004.
* McCain’s first mortgage plan was premised on the notion that homeowners facing foreclosure shouldn’t be “rewarded” for acting “irresponsibly.” He also praised the George W. Bush administration's handling of the crisis. His second mortgage plan took largely the opposite position.
* McCain’s campaign unveiled a Social Security policy that the senator would implement if elected, which did not include a Bush-like privatization scheme. In March 2008, McCain denounced his own campaign’s policy.
* In February 2008, McCain reversed course on prohibiting waterboarding.
* In November 2007, McCain reversed his previous position on a long-term presence for U.S. troops in Iraq, arguing that the “nature of the society in Iraq” and the “religious aspects” of the country make it inevitable that the United States “eventually withdraws.” Two months later, McCain reversed back, saying he’s prepared to leave U.S. troops in Iraq for 100 years. On time tables for withdrawal - Republican John McCain, in a speech forecasting what the country would look like after his first term in office, said May 15th that he expects the war in Iraq to be won and most troops to be home by January 2013. The prediction marks a major departure for McCain, who railed against rival Mitt Romney shortly before the Florida primary for his remark in April 2007 that he thought President Bush and Iraqi leaders should privately discuss a timetable for withdrawing troops from Iraq. At the time, McCain suggested that the comment would embolden America's foes in Iraq. The Arizona senator leveled the same criticism at Democratic Sens. Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton, stating that their advocacy for withdrawing troops from Iraq amounted to setting a date for "surrender."
* McCain was a co-sponsor of the DREAM Act, which would grant legal status to illegal immigrants’ kids who graduate from high school. Now he’s against it.
* On immigration policy in general, McCain announced in February 2008 that he would vote against his own legislation.
* In 2006, McCain sponsored legislation to require grassroots lobbying coalitions to reveal their financial donors. In 2007, after receiving “feedback” on the proposal, McCain told far-right activist groups that he opposes his own measure.
* McCain said before the war in Iraq, “We will win this conflict. We will win it easily.” Four years later, McCain said he knew all along that the war in Iraq war was “probably going to be long and hard and tough.”
* McCain went from saying he would not support repeal of Roe v. Wade to saying the exact opposite.
* McCain went from saying homosexual marriage should be allowed, to saying homosexual marriage shouldn’t be allowed.
* McCain criticized TV preacher Jerry Falwell as well as Pastor John Hagee as “agents of intolerance” in 2002, but then decided to cozy up to the men who said Americans “deserved” the 9/11 attacks, Katrina was God’s punishment on us for homosexuality, and that the catholic church was the “great wh*re”
* McCain used to oppose Bush’s tax cuts for the very wealthy, but he reversed course in February 2008
* McCain supported a major campaign-finance reform measure that bore his name. In June 2007, he abandoned his own legislation.
* McCain opposed a holiday to honor Martin Luther King, Jr., before he supported it.
* McCain was anti-ethanol. Now he’s pro-ethanol.
* McCain was both for and against state promotion of the Confederate flag.
* McCain flip-flops on Hamas-
"They're the government; sooner or later we are going to have to deal with them, one way or another," he said at the time. "And I understand why this administration and previous administrations had such antipathy towards Hamas because of their dedication to violence and the things that they not only espouse but practice ...
"But it's a new reality in the Middle East. I think the lesson is people want security and a decent life and decent future, that they want democracy. Fatah was not giving them that."
January 2006 – John McCain
Then in May 2008 McCain labels himself Hamas’s “Worst nightmare” and vows to never negotiate with Hamas.
GIANT FLIP-FLOPPER!!!!

Posted by: feastorafamine | August 29, 2008 1:58 PM | Report abuse

McCain is a gambler. He is sacrificing his strongest argument against Obama (i.e. Obama's inexperience) in the hopes of winning over women voters, cementing his position with social conservatives, and giving his ticket some youthful charisma. Though I am totally unfamiliar with Palin, I am guessing that she will come across as capable, dynamic, and appealing on camera. This is going to be a very interesting campaign - especially the vice-presidential debate.

Posted by: Herb | August 29, 2008 1:58 PM | Report abuse

And also, OBAMA/BIDEN '08

Posted by: Freedomfighter | August 29, 2008 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Ashley, you are fooling no one with your lies. At least try to be convincing.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Carol Baker, I Love You!

Posted by: NObama08 | August 29, 2008 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Black people scare Sam

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

The GOPers here are defending her inexperience in in anything by talking about how short years Obama has been in Washington. People, Obama has passed some of the toughest legislations in the Senate. He has been a legislator for more than 10 years (Since being in the Illinois senate -1997). Just to put it into perspective, this woman became a Governor only two months before Obama announced his Presidential candidacy. Before that, she was a mayor to a town with slightly over 6 thousand population. Judge for yourself.

Posted by: jo | August 29, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

After reading some of these entries, it's clear that campaign staffers and/or unpaid volunteers are representing themselves as "readers" to this thread. AHockeyMom? How about LockStepLoon? Like other liars on the 'net, you're probably not even a woman. Which brings me to my point, and my prediction: Much like a freshly laid turd, Palin will make a big initial splash, but when people (especially women) get a good whiff of what she stands for, off she will float, ultimately forgotten. Only a soulless jackass like the many staffing McCain's campaign would beleive Hillary supporters or women in general are so stupid and fickle as to accept an inexperienced, gun-toting Christianist loon from the Wild West as some sort of consolation prize for the one and only HRC. Wow... I think, for the first time in my life, I've seen someone capture, and then lose, the presidency within the space of 30 minutes. Despite the marketing attempts by McCain/RNC/GOP, voters will see Palin for what she is: the Harriet Meyers of Election '08, the chimpmunk-cheeked pseudo-reformer who came down to we less, lower 48 states to speak softly and carry a big purse, but was then promptly trounced and sent on her way.

Posted by: valdisfox | August 29, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

come on youse guys. you know he picked a woman because he doesn't look short next to her. Now he won't have to strain his neck,

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

I think it is hilarious that the liberals are tripping over themselves, being blindsided, by McCain's choice! LOL. Obama just lost...and they know it! You people here know it too. Still got to be hateful though don’t you? Liberal is spelled…HATE.

Posted by: McCain-2008 | August 29, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

and how does McCain plan to pay off the national debt? I keep hearing about all the things 'wrong' with Obama...and no solutions from McCain

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

When will it finally come out that Obama is gay. You heard it here first.

Posted by: Sol | August 29, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Good choice by McCain. Palin having a retarded child will certainly bolster the vote for the Republicans.:)

Posted by: Johna | August 29, 2008 2:00 PM | Report abuse

You are awesome too, Ashley!

Posted by: NObama08 | August 29, 2008 2:00 PM | Report abuse

I love this game, and also OBAMA/BIDEN '08

Posted by: Freedomfighter | August 29, 2008 2:00 PM | Report abuse

I think it's clear that McCain is trying to cast himself and his new running mate as reformers of a broken and corrupt party. There seems to be non-partisan agreement that the republican party, under Bush/Cheney has gone astray: Allowing lobbyist to write laws, rewarding loyalty over merit, glad handing social conservatives but abandoning their cause when it matters.
The question is then: What's the best way to reform the republican party? Elect McCain, a Bush loyalist who has voted with the president 90% of the time, has a great deal of the Bush/Cheney team on his staff and has done very little in the way of stopping the NeoCon train in the last 26 years and no real plan to change it's course in the future.
Or elect Obama and let the Republican party sit back and think for 8 years about why and where they lost touch with the average american. Why didn't No Child Left Behind work? What happened during Katrina? Why did Exxon get to write our energy plan? What happened to the party's excellent record on diplomacy (E.G. Nixon, Reagan) Why did the party leadership misrepresent the threat from Iraq and why didn't they send our troops in with a good, well thought out plan?
These are questions that need to be examined while out of power. That's why I love this country. You make a big mistake, you're out. In China, they'd just sweep it under the carpet and never investigate. Here the loosers have to go figure out why they lost.
I cannot wait to hear Obama's innauguration speech!

Posted by: Pierre | August 29, 2008 2:00 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA = JIMMY CARTER High Tax, High Interst Rate,High Inflation

We Cant ever let that happen again

After reading alot of your comments on here. You Can tell the Dem are scary to death now .

Palin as VP has more Eperience that Obama as pre

I was supporting Hillary ( Hillary would have been one of are Greatest PRE )but now I will vote for MacCain and Palin Time

An yes I am a Independent as All Amercain Should me .

Posted by: Huckfin13 | August 29, 2008 2:00 PM | Report abuse

I am a former Clinton follower that will now vote for McCain. Great pick & a proud day for all women!

Posted by: LaShondra | August 29, 2008 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Learn what from the republicans...to be void of any credible ideas. No thanks...you and your fellow Republicans continue down the road of self delusion. As for Me...I'm heading to DC for Barak Obama inauguration.

Posted by: Obama2008 | August 29, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

I find a number of things interesting after going through a number of these entries. For background, I am a lifelong republican who sat through Obama's speech last night and that speech left me wanting to know more about the man. I found the speech interesting and insightful. I plan to do more research, he may get my vote.

One, this woman does have more executive experience than Obama. So this argument rings hollow for me.

Two, she shows a willingness to root out corruption and waste even to the detriment of her own party. That shows intergrity.

Three, she has been accused of corruption. Who among us has not been falsely accused of something. Time will tell.

Four, anyone who invokes a reference to a beauty pagent shows thier ignorance and should not be allowed to post such dribble.

Sounds like I am voting for her, right? That is not a given.

How about we all let her be heard, like Obama was heard last night. Sure we can glean some things from her record, but some of the most important issues she needs to define. Where does she stand on a balanced budget, universal health care, the Iraq war, the housing crisis, Katrina cleanup? How about letting her be heard before we pass judgement? Next week she will define herself. I anxiously await it.

Posted by: Larry | August 29, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

@ONLY 'CRATS CAN DOUBLESPEAK ...ah the irony of your name. You are apparently too inept to see the real arguement going on here, and that is GOP are hypocrits by claiming the experience matter meme.

dumbass doublespeak conservatives

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

"What a wonderful choice by McCain.


I am a former Clinton follower that will now vote for McCain."

Liar, you are some guy paid by McCain to try and persuade females into falling for this obvious trick

Posted by: Susan Berker, Rockford MD | August 29, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Barak Obama is going down.

Posted by: Ayodeji | August 29, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, what major legislation did she have to handle as a small town mayor? Who's gonna house the next potluck? Who's gonna judge the apple bobbin' contest at the next town fair?

Hehehehhe, good luck with that!

Posted by: ryan | August 29, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

to "Al Burgess":

I am sorry, but your post was sexist. What is she had a child with Down syndrome? Does that mean she should stay at home and take care of the baby? What does the husbant do, he cannot provide any support in this? Truly disgusting post.
For me, it's a reason to seriously consider her: she is a fighter, to take on a difficult governorship (and Alaska is small, but the challenges are pretty big) with all of these family problems. Run, Sarah, run!

PS: This is from a man writing this.

Posted by: No to sexism in any form | August 29, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

This is to georgiademocratguy... After reading many "troll" posts, your post was a relief. However... Your attachment to the Obama ticket is rather intriguing... especially in light of your very positive view of Ms. Palin. If you value her ability to combat corruption, how can you simultaneously admire Mr Biden's ingrained pork barrel Senate experience. Your prose truly betrays that you only hold on to the Obama voting pattern because it is a tradition. I encourage you to broaden your openness to diversity and leave the "traditions" of your past and vote for "change."

Posted by: PoliticsisReligion | August 29, 2008 2:02 PM | Report abuse

What a hypocrite McCain is. Blasts Obama for being young & inexperienced then picks Palin for VP?? tsk,tsk,tsk..desperate times call for deperate meaures I guess.

Posted by: Dan | August 29, 2008 2:02 PM | Report abuse

For all those who said that Obama is ready and qualified, they just endorsed Palin. This is a great day for the women as well as for any ordinary American. If you put your country at first, people will come and follow you.

Posted by: indi | August 29, 2008 2:02 PM | Report abuse

speaking of experience:

She may be a heartbeat away from the White House.
He is a VOTE away from it.

McCain 08' is the right choice!

Posted by: Shawley | August 29, 2008 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Hey, Obama is Gay? Guess that means McCain will lose the gay vote. :( But he still has his retards with Palin on the ticket. ;)

Posted by: Johna | August 29, 2008 2:02 PM | Report abuse

I think Sarah Palin is a Perfect choice for John McCain. I am a die hard Hillary Clinton supporter but I want a woman in office now not in 12 years. I would have gladly voted for a democrat if Obama was not so immature or so arrogant that he would ignore 18 million voices. Actually it is that action that made me look closer at his character. Also when you have the likes of Al Sharpton threatening Clinton to get her woman voters to vote for Obama or ELSE I say I will not be convinced to vote for Obama by Hillary or Oprah or Denzil Washington the only one that could have convinced me was Obama and he screwed up big time by not considering Hillary or her 18 million voters. I don't call that good judgment and I don't want that person as my President.

Posted by: mimi362 | August 29, 2008 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Barak Obama is a complete fraud.

Posted by: Ayodeji | August 29, 2008 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Obama + Abortion = Murder. Who wants a baby killer as President. Wake up America!

Posted by: Paul J | August 29, 2008 2:02 PM | Report abuse

This board is like a pyramid scheme for Republicans. Drown out legitmate questions about your shoddy product with utopian promises that you can never deliver.

Democrats deal in reality.
Republican deal in utopian ideals.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:03 PM | Report abuse

I'm staring out the window saying OBAMA/BIDEN'08

Posted by: Freedomfighter | August 29, 2008 2:03 PM | Report abuse

In response to "duff_beer"

You are the very example of sexism in this country. You're trying to manipulate voters into picking your candidate (obama of course) but unfortunately for you, we're not morons.

You seem to be implying that the only reason McCain picked Palin is because she's a woman. That assertion completely disregards her record and all the great things she has done in politics. Palin has created waves in the GOP by turning her back on corrupted rich old fat cats. She's swept house and got rid of a ton of corruption. To cite her gender as the only reason for why she was picked for VP is honestly, a pathetic show of sexism. You're trying to trick women voters into NOT voting for the republicans by saying "oh women wouldn't be so emotional to vote for a woman only". That's true. But women also aren't so emotional that we're easily tricked by the likes of you.

besides, Palin has done more for Americans than Obama has thus far. (Yes, Alaskans are Americans too)

Posted by: (XD) | August 29, 2008 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Palin in under investigation for fraud as we type.

Republican just love to elect these crooks.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:03 PM | Report abuse

It just keeps getting better and better for the dems. Last night, we saw a tremendous speech that will go down as one of the best acceptance speeches in our history. The party is unifying. And McCain seems to want to help the dems through all this. What a Great Day!

However, we mustn't forget that there is a lot of cleaning up to do in Jan. The despicable lying, corrupt, criminal administration of the past 8 yrs has done severe damage to this country and this world. We must stay focused and united if are to restore prominence to America.

What a great day! Enjoy this everybody, but stay focused because a wounded dog is dangerous.

Posted by: TruePatriot | August 29, 2008 2:04 PM | Report abuse

I agree Paul J. Let's continue to breed a race of retards like Palin has done. :)

Posted by: Johna | August 29, 2008 2:04 PM | Report abuse

"All the great things" she did? and you only mentioned one?

Meanwhile, Palin in under investigation for corruption.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:04 PM | Report abuse

"18 months as Governor of Alaska that's like a day and a half right? "

20 years of church education is more impressive.

Posted by: jy2008 | August 29, 2008 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Let them clean up their party first before we give them another chance.

Does anyone else notice that they admitted that their party is corrupt?

Posted by: Sparky | August 29, 2008 2:05 PM | Report abuse

McCain's VP choice just proves that he has no intention whatsoever of giving her any real power. It is scary to think that she would end up replacing him if he could not perform his duties.

Posted by: Zena | August 29, 2008 2:05 PM | Report abuse

I wonder awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww forget it OBAMA/BIDEN '08

Posted by: Freedomfighter | August 29, 2008 2:05 PM | Report abuse


She is so hot, Hillary might get a mullet and send her a card.

Posted by: Laughin | August 29, 2008 2:05 PM | Report abuse

I hate to say it, but McCain just won.

Posted by: Angry Dem | August 29, 2008 2:05 PM | Report abuse

GOP must be pro-life...because if we outloaw abortion there will no more retarded children to grow up to become Republicans

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:05 PM | Report abuse

When Hillary gets an *early* appointment as Obama's Secretary of State, the Palin pick will have been totally undermined as the stunt that it was.

Enjoy the brief glow of hope. Obama will sow up this election with the credible choice of Biden over the beauty pageant choice by McCain, and a rock-solid and experienced cabinet.

Posted by: Secretary of State | August 29, 2008 2:06 PM | Report abuse

Palin - excellent choice.

Posted by: Carrie | August 29, 2008 2:06 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous:

"I don;t even think you are a woman. Women are not that dumb to just blindly vote for a female, no matter who they are."

Wow. Where does all this anger come from? I am a woman, I don't think anyone other than my teenagers think I'm dumb, and I have never voted blindly for or against anything.

I have never been all that enthused about Hillary or her positions. I know others disagree. I would have happily ignored the fact that I never really liked her personality if I mostly agreed strongly with her positions, but I don't. I will freely say I respect her accomplishments. I also respect Palin's accomplishments, and ok, it's true, Palin seems like a breath of fresh air to me right now.

Do you seriously believe that Palin does not stand for women's rights? Why? Because she's pro-life? Pro-life has always seemed to me to be more about religious beliefs taking priority over a woman's right. Based on your post, I bet you disagree with me. Which is ok, we disagree. I don't feel the need to question your qualifications or call you names.

I'm keeping an open mind. But so far my enthusiasm for McCain-Palin is strong.

Posted by: AHockeyMom | August 29, 2008 2:06 PM | Report abuse

How can anyone forget Bambi's tenure in the Illinois state Senate. It was during that time that he was able to ensure that babies who survive abortion can be murdered through neglect.

How ironic that Bambi talks about his empathy!!! I guess he just could not find his empathy for the poor babies who are cold, hungry, wet and scared that he ensured with he efforts would die. He is a hard-hearted person complicit in the murder of many babies born alive. He appears to have empathy only for people who will help him to implement his agenda of death and destruction.

Posted by: eddie | August 29, 2008 2:06 PM | Report abuse

When President McCain or President Palin make abortion illegal, they'll need to answer a simple question: How much time does a woman who gets an abortion have to spend in the slammer? It's disingenuous at best to say "jail the doctor but not the person who chose to commit the crime." The doc is an accessory, not the primary criminal.

So what's the sentence for this brand of homicide going to be? It's a simple question of "do the crime, do the time." Please, no cowardly evasions or illogical solutions this time. Answer the question honestly; otherwise, you're just spouting empty words.

Posted by: DW | August 29, 2008 2:06 PM | Report abuse

Audrey- are you kidding me? You fault Palin for her lack of experience from being a "heartbeat away" from the presidency, but Obama, who has less working days in the legislature (not as an executive) is more qualified?? Did you forget who was at the top of the democrat ticket? It's not Biden.

Posted by: EJ | August 29, 2008 2:06 PM | Report abuse

That's it. Race over. The Dems are back in the whitehouse. YEEHAA!!!

Posted by: blueinTX | August 29, 2008 2:06 PM | Report abuse

People sure are dumb if they beleive the fake Republican posting as Dem posts.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:06 PM | Report abuse

Nice try McSame, us Hillraisers are not going to fall for your sad pandering! Enjoy your golden years from your mansion, the White House is ours!!!

Posted by: Bonnie | August 29, 2008 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Hey you, Democrats do not deal in reality. You need to wake up and smell the coffee mate. Democrats lie, sometimes tend to be anti-America. Bloody Democrats go overseas and bash America. Quite frankly, I do not know which planet Barak Obama is on, seems like this dude is still dreaming somewhere on Pluto.

Posted by: Ayodeji | August 29, 2008 2:07 PM | Report abuse

""All the great things" she did? and you only mentioned one?"

All the changes he talked about and you only mentioned none?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Trooper Wooten shot his 10 yr old stepson with a taser (calling it a training exercise) and threatened to shoot Palin's father.

Posted by: Indie fo McCain-Palin | August 29, 2008 2:07 PM | Report abuse

If qualifications matter, I would have thought that McCain would have chosen the winner of the Miss Alaska pagent rather than a runner-up.

Posted by: alaskapat | August 29, 2008 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Palin is attractive, competent... and a staunch conservative.

Her record on animal rights makes her vulnerable... supports drilling in animal habitats, OK'd legislation that supports killing wolves and bears from helicopters;

Anti-abortion. Should be a deal killer for most women but, after the PUMA thing, it seems that many women are willing to mortgage their future for vengeance;

Rock-solid consevative record. She can't even BEGIN to be painted as a moderate.

This pick is going to shore up the conservative base. Conservative women will LOVE her and her looks will give chubbies to all the wrong-wing males. She is the CONSUMMATE conservative women... the only thing that would make her better is if she were barefoot and pregnant.

The Dems are going to have to get Hillary to go after this woman early and often because she is a slam dunk for the conservative base and may attract a lot of women who don't realize that she actually supports many positions that are hostile to women.

It also puts Biden on the defensive. He can't go after her hard while she can tee off on him. So it's lose-lose... he either rips her a new one and alienates female voters or allows her to rip him and gets clowned for letting a woman get the best of him. He's going to have to walk a fine line.

Another thing is that they really can't attack HER experience either because then they'd be making the case against Obama. It negates the experience argument on BOTH sides. A net positive for Obama but not one that can really be exploited by the Obama campaign.

The best thing the Dems can do is treat this as a regular ultra-conservative ticket. There is enough in Palin's record to rip without having to attack her experience. Her Big Oil connections, conservative record, and stances on animal rights and abortion are big enough targets

This was actually a great pick for conservatives but it doesn't give them any more firepower. Their records will still open them up to attack and the Obama campaign should have no trouble ripping Palin on her record.

Posted by: James King | August 29, 2008 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Thank God Palin is no Hillary Clinton, she is what I call a real woman. I don't know why any of you would say that she couldn't be President, it appears that she has very successfully accomplished everything else she's set out to do in her lifetime and with family values and ethics at that.

Posted by: Barb | August 29, 2008 2:07 PM | Report abuse

This is just what McCain needed to win now that he has the all important Soccer mom vote. Obama is the same old good 'ol boys club. What a great day for women everywhere!

Posted by: Joan Burke | August 29, 2008 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Within 5 minutes of her speech Palin mentions Hillary, and 18 million cracks in the glass ceiling. Gee there inst any pandering going on here is there? Gimme a break. POLICIES people, POLICIES women democrats. What are the candidates policies? How about over turning Roe V Wade? How about NOT giving women equal pay for women? How about ZERO tax relief for your family? How about ZERO healthcare reform, and in fact worsening single payer coverage? Are these the policies you are voting for? Or are you the target of a pandering desperate candidate looking to scoop up an electorate? I think the women i know in my life are smarter than that. I give them more credit than that. Apparantly McCain doesnt.

Posted by: feastorafamine | August 29, 2008 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Hello I'm waiting for someone to reply to my responses but in the meantime OBAMA/BIDEN '08

Posted by: Freedomfighter | August 29, 2008 2:08 PM | Report abuse

"Let's continue to breed a race of retards like Palin has done."

Such 'tolerance' from those who claim to support the 'little guy'.

Posted by: WhyamIsurprised | August 29, 2008 2:08 PM | Report abuse

All I am reading is fear...the Dems are scared that there is one heck of a lady who is now also running for the Office of the Vice President of the United States of America. Further, I can hardly believe that folks are daring to discuss lack of experience...shame on you! Kudos to McCain on this pick. People need to stop being so vicious and vote with your mind...not the emotions of the heart.

Posted by: Jenn | August 29, 2008 2:09 PM | Report abuse

his is a crazy pick. There goes the experience question and the commander in chief question. This is beyond demeaning it is breathtakingly stupid. It shows that McCain really is Grand Pa McCain. There is no way that the “Women’s vote will go for someone who has no place even been on a national ticket. It’s insult to think that Hillary’s former women supporters are so gender prejudiced that they will overlook the fact that Palin stands for the opposite of everything they believe in. Obama was right if not kind, MaCain does not get it. McCain for retirement in O8

Posted by: Steven | August 29, 2008 2:09 PM | Report abuse

She kinda looks like Tina Fey.
I like Mr. McCain's thinking on this.
Get the Hillary Vote, Get the 18-45 average joe vote.

She'll make Biden look oh so old in the VP debate. It'll balance out ol' John and young Barry. Nice!

Posted by: OKBYME | August 29, 2008 2:10 PM | Report abuse

"Let them clean up their party first before we give them another chance.

Does anyone else notice that they admitted that their party is corrupt?"

You will never be wrong if you do nothing like your master.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:10 PM | Report abuse

McCain's campaign has Downs Syndrome.

Posted by: Keating Five | August 29, 2008 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Who gives a sh%^ about amtrak?

Posted by: RP | August 29, 2008 2:10 PM | Report abuse

"I think Sarah Palin is a Perfect choice for John McCain. I am a die hard Hillary Clinton supporter but I want a woman in office now not in 12 years. I would have gladly voted for a democrat if Obama was not so immature or so arrogant that he would ignore 18 million voices. Actually it is that action that made me look closer at his character. Also when you have the likes of Al Sharpton threatening Clinton to get her woman voters to vote for Obama or ELSE I say I will not be convinced to vote for Obama by Hillary or Oprah or Denzil Washington the only one that could have convinced me was Obama and he screwed up big time by not considering Hillary or her 18 million voters. I don't call that good judgment and I don't want that person as my President."

AS A "DIE HARD HILLARY SUPPORTER" YOU ARE ALFULLY "ARROGANT THAT YOU WOULD IGNORE" HILLARY CLINTON'S VOTE.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Sure she's pretty! Can win beauty pageants and can pop out kids like a pez dispenser! But, Can she be Prez if God forbid McCain starts showing signs of Alzheimers or Dementia.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:10 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Freedomfighter | August 29, 2008 2:11 PM | Report abuse

The running mate of McCain has more executive experience than Obama!! This is hilarious!!!

Posted by: Patrick | August 29, 2008 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Church education??? What Jeremiah Right taught was hatred. You are right jy2008, that is much better than 18 months as a Governor. Can you say kookoo!!!

Posted by: NObama08 | August 29, 2008 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Hey the Republicans really know how to milk the retard angle. First they elect the first retarded president to office for two terms no-less and now they specifically pick a VP with retarded children to help them with the vote in Utah and the South. Can't wait to see Palin drag her kids out of stage during the convention.

Posted by: Johna | August 29, 2008 2:11 PM | Report abuse

It is incomprehensible to me how McCan't makes this choice?!!! WTF? Does he think we're all idiots and we'll vote for any old dame (Hot or not)???

Anyway, thanks Johnny, for the landslide victory in Nov.

Posted by: GeorgiaPeach | August 29, 2008 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Sarah is a good enough governor who is finding her way in a large state with a small population. But she is no Dan Quayle and I'm amazed McCain has become this desperate this soon. Once the surprise and cursory media reviews are done, her true colors will come out and become major liabilities on the national stage. She is a beliefs-based creationist, strongly anti-abortion, bucks good science when it is opposed to her state's economic interests (polar bear listing), sucks up to a trophy-hunting group when making natural resource decisions (a big deal up here that will not sell in urban Lower 48), and despite all her "clean up the old boys network" effort, she still favors drilling anywhere and everywhere. They will also look at energy rebate to Alaskans (1200 each) that gets coupled with our Permanent Fund Dividend (probably about 2000 each) and begin to understand why she has 80% approval ratings. You can do this when you are the Saudi Arabia of America, but it isn't going to help the country. Sarah is a fine governor of a western state. I cannot possibly imagine her going toe to toe with world leaders as she might be called upon to do if she is VP and McCain goes down (certainly possible, given his age). I believe this insures an Obama win, which is what I support. But on the off chance that Obama-Biden screws up in this campaign (and you just never know with those democrats), I really fear we will have no "adults" at the helm....

Posted by: Laughin' Alaskan | August 29, 2008 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Obama has WAY more experience than Palin!

Posted by: iluvobama | August 29, 2008 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Ol' Doc Mcain has sold himself so far down the river he don't know a paddle from a two by four. 72 years, and you are havin' some trouble remembering things. Like how many houses you have, or what you was that about no experience that was so important? Oh no matter, she is a woman (I think)! Wow. Stunningly incompetent- maybe that is what caught your attention about Palin John. Well congratulations!! You have finally found a way to entice all those right wing gun toting racists, gay bashers, oil lovin' beer swillin' plain folk that make over 5 million dollars a year. They were so 'on the fence' until now. Congratulations John! Smart move!! Plain talk for morons- that should be your new slogan.

Palin- who is currently under investigation for abuse of power for arranging to have her former brother in law fired, who's husband works for British Petroleum, Palin- who wholeheartedly supports helicopter and aircraft sport hunting of big game-the cowardly "sport" of the super rich, Rich people like you, thanks to the rich man's daughter you married when you came back from Nam a superstar and promptly dumped your crippled first wife and left your children to gold dig for the blonde heiress. Palin, cheerleader to the destruction of the Alaskan wilderness for the benefit of BP and all the other multinationals. What a joke. A sad joke, but still, funny in a pathetic sort of way. This choice, if nothing else, does seem to lend credence to the notion that you, sir, are going a little daft. Oh and speaking of dementia-

Happy 72nd birthday Doc! Five cancer treatments and counting, and you want the republicans that choose you to seriously consider this woman as your best choice for "one heartbeat away"? Good luck with that.

LIke an earlier post mentioned- it's a beautiful day to be a Democrat.
Obama 08'!

Posted by: aNewDay | August 29, 2008 2:12 PM | Report abuse

I would have voted for Hillary, not because she is a woman, but because she is brilliant, tough, and determined. I will not vote for Obama because I don't trust him. I thought I would be staying home on election day but now I have more research to do. I love animals, hate corruption, and believe our country is in a downward spiral. At least McCain chose someone outside the Washington Machine. We'll see how it all turns out.

Posted by: Barbara, Charlotte, NC | August 29, 2008 2:12 PM | Report abuse

The experience argument can go on forever, but really does that hold water when you look at Bush. He had experience, he even got to try the job for four years, and still managed to screw everything up. But if that is the argument you want to take, Obama has been on the scene for years. He was already addressing the nation back in '04.He's run a tough campaign against a tough opponent. His speech addressed the issues, gave an outline of his platform. So far, I've heard about oil in Alaksa, duh!(it's an issue but if the Republican party thinks that is all the American people want addressed, they are way out of touch), moose burgers, highschool nickname 'Barracuda', shoots a rifle, beauty pageant contestant. Are we seriously talking about the VP of the USA. With as many bright, intelligent women in politics, theis is the best the Republican party can come up with?

Posted by: Bewildered | August 29, 2008 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Hey if palin has a retarded genetic line what does that say about her potential leadership. :o

Posted by: Johna | August 29, 2008 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Liberals such as Obama Biden are totally bad for this country. They claim they care about those that cannot take care of themselves, yet they are pro-abortion. I will never tell a woman who was raped or molested what to do if she were to get pregnant. However, that is not the primary reason why women have abortions. They utilize abortion as a means of birth control, and that is completely wrong....
McCain Palin 2008!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Ayodeji The Black African Proud Conservative | August 29, 2008 2:13 PM | Report abuse

The demo-crytes are in SERIOUS trouble. They've got an empty suit as their nominee who snubbed his nose at the only person that would have made the ticket viable. Terrible move, demo-crytes.

If I were Obama, I'd be sweating bullets right now.

Posted by: Greg | August 29, 2008 2:13 PM | Report abuse

I'd trust a governor as prez before obama or biden.

As for the dems that question if she's ready to be prez? billy was "qualified" after being governor or Arkansaz....not sure how she's less qualified.


And..she's hot.

Posted by: john | August 29, 2008 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Obama and his Good ole boys Stole the Dem Nomintion From HILLARY

Hillary would would have been one of are Greatest President

Posted by: Huckfin13 | August 29, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Freedomfighter | August 29, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse

mimi362 is the type of person McCain is going after... a woman who is willing to go against her best interests just because there is a woman on the ticket. Palin's positions are just as hostile to women as McCain's but that won't seem to matter.

Posted by: James King | August 29, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse

McCain just locked up all the Hispanic women votes you know.

Posted by: Vanessa Lopez | August 29, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse

"The President is not a king (despite the fact that Bush may think so). "

Obama is a king. Look at his new clothes.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:15 PM | Report abuse

This choice was made with the intention of getting 'disillusioned' hillary voters, according to Rove. What they dont understand is that it actually is patronizing. It's very transaprent as to why the choice is Palin. It says that Hillary's supporters were supporting her just because she is a woman. It's very insulting. The simplicity of the Republican thinking sometimes is just unbeleivable. The tried something simmilar, exacept it was on racial grounds then, in the senatorial election in MD. The thought Michael Steel (who is black and republican) would win easily by shoring up the black vote. But, he was soundly beaten by a white democrat. So, this idea of hillary's women voters will flock to Mcain because he chose a woman vp is going to backfire big time. As a woman and long time supporter of both the clintons, this is insulting at best. Now, I know what Hillary was talking about during the convention when she asked if we supported her because of the issues she represented.

Posted by: Mary | August 29, 2008 2:15 PM | Report abuse

I think the Constitution says the qualifications for president are to be 35 years old and a citizen of the USA. That's the argument Jesse (The Moron) Ventura used when he was "thinking" of running.

Posted by: The Rodentman | August 29, 2008 2:15 PM | Report abuse

Dan, Obama and McCain are both better than you. Obama never said McCain is too old and McCain never said Obama is too young. It has been the judgment and experience they are arguing about..

Posted by: indi | August 29, 2008 2:15 PM | Report abuse

To: No to sexism in any form

I am sorry if I offended you, but I am not a sexist!! The woman just had a baby in April and the baby needs to be nurtured at such an early age (4 months old)!! Not to mention, she went back to work 3 days after she had the child!! She should be close to her baby with him being at such an early age!! She is all about self and not her child!! She gives a bad name to the GOP and family values!! I bet she hires a NANNY to take care of her motherly responsibilities!!

Posted by: Al Burgess | August 29, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

McCain's choice just indicted the whole Republican party and an admission how terrible they have become. This desperate measure was needed, but will fail because it is a deception to tap woman voters. It is a reaction to Obama not a genuine calling because it was announced after Biden became VP choice. There is no sincerity or originality from plastic McCain. With a squeaky bimbo VP by his side, at least the old man will be a happy looser.

Posted by: Basil | August 29, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

People are actually cracking jokes about Palin's child who suffers from Down Syndrome. Lovely. If you disagree with her political views, fine, but making fun of her child/genetic line shows the true colors of who claim to be so 'tolerant'

Posted by: Amazed | August 29, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

If people love Obama for his lack of political experience, then they should vote for me. In fact, in the competition of a lack of political experience, I've got Obama beat. I've never even taken a politics course as I'm a life science major. I'm also not a lawyer like Obama. My platform is between that of Hillary and Obama. In addition, I'm young and idealistic too.

ok i'm joking.
I'm not silly enough to believe that people will for vote for me because Obama supporters love him for more than his policies. His supporters are so intent on voting a black man into office that they've lost sight of the real goal, which is to make America's future brighter. That is why I think Obama-supporters are the last people on earth who have the right to accuse Hillary supporters of "only wanting a woman as president". With obama single-handedly monopolizing almost ALL of the black vote in this country, Obama supporters should note that women have NOT unanimously supported Hillary. So in the competition of "who is voting for a person due to his/her ethnicity/gender", I think Obama supporters have Hillary supporters beat by a thousand miles. If American women only "voted their kind" the way Obama supporters did, then Hillary would have 50% of all american votes as women make up around 50% of every population on earth.

PS
Johna, you're wrong to say "lets breed for retards". Your sarcasm is unwarranted and what you're advocating is eugenics. You know what's eugenics? It's basically what Hitler tried to do in WW2. I'm pro-choice but I'm certainly not a nazi like you.

Posted by: tky | August 29, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous, I'm rolling on the floor over the "pop out kids like a Pez dispenser" remark.

Her own family should underscore the abortion debate nicely.

Posted by: Keating Five | August 29, 2008 2:17 PM | Report abuse

It is interesting that most of the bloggers attacking Palin are males.

Posted by: eddie | August 29, 2008 2:17 PM | Report abuse

This is better news than we could of hoped for. Obama can just sit back and point to the old guy and say, "Is there really any contest here?". What a gift. Thank you john!

Posted by: blueinTX | August 29, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

I am very discouraged by the constant speculation that McCain is not young enough or healthy enough to be an effective leader. Statistically speaking, Obama has a better chance of becoming ill during his term than his opponent, McCain. Obama has an extensive history of chain smoking (supposedly he has quit). Genetically speaking, both of his parents (though unfortunate) died at a relatively young age. John McCain's mother is prospering well in her 90s. Let's not worry about the "what ifs" and focus on voting for the best presidential candidate for our country.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

All of this "inexperience" and "pandering" rhetoric from the Obama supporters is nonsense. Palin is a fantastic pick, in my opinion, for a host of reasons. Firstly, it seems as though she's got a pretty clean record. Secondly, she's actually governed. Thirdly, I like the fact that she's an unknown who has been taking the heat from the GOP in Alaska.

I think the inexperience argument coming from the Obama supporters here is really very interesting. The criticisms of Palin could have also been levvied against Tim Kaine, yet he's getting his 15 minutes in the spot light and was receiving plenty of positive platitudes when it looked like he might be a sure pick for Dem VP. The difference is that Tim Kaine hasn't gotten anything done in VA (I know because I live there)... and for the moment it sounds as though Palin has actually put her shoulder to the wheel in Alaska.

Also, the Obama campaign itself is going to be in a tough spot when they try to use the inexperience argument against McCain's pick. Biden won't be able to even touch it in the VP debates, lest he open a whole can of worms about "experience". So tactically, this was an interesting move.

Lastly, I look at it this way. Obama has almost no leadership experience (though his campaign does have some deliciously brilliant marketing savvy), and I recall hearing that his voting record is mostly "present" rather than "yes" or "no". His choice of Biden was almost like a crutch... like hiring on a coach. Even the talking heads were adamant that Obama should pick Biden, because Biden had the experience Obama doesn't have. McCain's choice of Palin, on the other hand, is the reverse. You've got an elderstatesman to observe, work with, and learn from for four years. There's a difference I guess.

Oh well. It's going to be a very interesting election and an even more interesting four years regardless of who gets elected. Obama is very compelling, even for a conservative like me. I wasn't even remotely interested in McCain until he made this VP pick. Sigh. I'm guessing it's gonna be either a write-in for Ron Paul or a vote for Bob Barr for me.

However it shakes out, it's gonna be fun, interesting, and ultimately...expensive!

Posted by: Judy | August 29, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Dear Anonymous & Johna- everyone should read your posts. This is what the democrat party is all about. When you can go no lower, get into the gutter- ridicule someone who has a child- that's right, someone that does have constitutional rights- with Down's Syndrome.

Perhaps your spiritual instruction comes from that great theologian- Nancy Pelosi!

p.S. Anonymous- learn to spell before you post.

Posted by: ej | August 29, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

I'm sorry to say this but americans are stupid, VERY stupid.

Hillary supporters won't vote for Obama because he beated Ms Clinton......so they'll vote a guy who will keep on destroying the economy and killing people around the world just because they're mad about Obama defeating Clinton. Are they really going to bare 4 more years of a horrible administration just because they're angry?

Is it necessary to suffer McCain for 4 years so Hillary can be nominated (if she wants to) in 2012?? Really??

If the answer is yes you'll prove my point.....americans are stupid.

And now we have McCain who chose a womam as VP just to attract the silly Hillary supporters....it doesn't seem to matter Sarah Palin is ultra-conservative and very different to Hillary Clinton (who would be a great president, like Obama). If we use that logic, then Hillary supporters would vote for any women, even if they are like Katherine Knight, Beverly Allitt or Myra Hindley.

Don't be stupid, USA can be a great country again....just ask this question: when was USA better? Was it in the Clinton administration or under the Bush government?

Obama will be a great presiden, just like Bill Clinton was and the same way Hillary Clinton would be....don't vote for McCain just for revenge......think and vote for what is best for America.

Posted by: Sebastian | August 29, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

People keep commenting on Palin's lack of experience. Palin's two years of service as a Governor surely outweigh Obama's 160 days (Before he announced his candidacy) as a junior senator. Her accomplishments, dedication and willingness to go against her party are something Mr. Obama does not have the backbone to do.

Posted by: cd3210 | August 29, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Candidates educational experience:

Obama:
B.A. 1983 - political science - Columbia University.
J.D. magna cum laude 1991 - Harvard Law.

Biden:
B.A. 1965 - double-major history and political science - University of Delaware.
J.D. 1968 - Syracuse University College of Law.

McCain:
B.A. 1958 - United States Navel Academy (3rd from last in his class).

Palin:
B.A. 1988 - journalism - University of Idaho.

Here is a little episode in Palin's recent past reported in Wikipedia that shows arrogance and lack of judgement:
"When the Alaska Creamery Board recommended closing Matanuska Maid Dairy, an unprofitable state-owned business, Palin objected, citing concern for the impact on dairy farmers and the fact that the dairy had just received $600,000 in state money. When Palin realized that the Board of Agriculture and Conservation appoints Creamery Board members, she simply replaced the entire membership of the Board of Agriculture and Conservation. The new board, led by businesswoman Kristan Cole, reversed the decision to close the dairy. The new board approved milk price increases offered by the dairy in an attempt to control fiscal losses, even though milk from Washington was already offered in Alaskan stores at lower prices. In the end, the dairy was forced to close, and the state tried to sell the assets to pay off its debts but received no bids.


Posted by: Fate | August 29, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse

McCain said "“I’m very happy today to spend my birthday with you." I am sure she isn't the first woman to hear a line like this from McCain. Seriously, if you had doubts about McCain's judgement, this should confirm those doubts. My god, was he that totally in awe of Obama's speech last night?

Posted by: Saxxon Domela | August 29, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Dear Motherofthree:
I'm a little disgusted that you are happy to see a woman on the ticket, yet you, "don't believe a mother with a child with downs syndrome, who need so much stability in their lives, routine, routine, routine....could choose her career over her childs needs." Are you worried what career this child's father has chosen? Why should being a mother disqualify Sarah from being a good Vice Presidential choice?

Posted by: Deserie | August 29, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Amazed

I never claimed to be tolerant. I see both dems and reps as having their problems. Obama is gay and the McCain ticket has having questionable leadership because of a retarded genetic line. I'd think you'd be happy with McCain getting the retard vote in the South and Utah.

Posted by: Johna | August 29, 2008 2:20 PM | Report abuse

This election just got really fun.
John McCain ROCKS!!!!!!
Joe Biden........please.

Posted by: OKBYME | August 29, 2008 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Whooohooo! Calling all women...vote against your self interest. Vote for gender instead of policies! I give you more credit than that. I give you credit for voting on the issues, not gender, not race and not even party but for policies. McCain hopes for the opposite. Would Palin really be his choice had Hillary not changed the political landscape? If you think he would then you are ripe for that pandering i mentioned. McCain women are smarter than you give them credit for. And while you are at it why dont you talk about giving them equal pay?

Posted by: feastorafamine | August 29, 2008 2:20 PM | Report abuse

First, let us distinguish between "executive" and "legislative" experience, because it appears many people do not know the difference. To put it plainly, the legislative branch writes the laws of this country. The executive branch enforces those laws -- it "governs" the country.

Whether you want to admit it or not, Palin has executive experience and Obama does not, simple as that. That statement CANNOT BE DEBATED - it is a fact.

As far as Obama's promise of "change" -- he shows no signs of delivering on that promise. Instead of picking a VP who can inspire change, he picked Biden -- a typical Washington career-politician. We are expected to believe that Biden is an agent of change? HA!! But McCain did something brilliant -- he picked a true VP of change. He picked a young woman with fresh ideas, strong family values and a proven record of reform. To belittle her for her apparent good looks only shows how desperate and scared the Obama supporters have become.

Cry and scream all you want, liberals, but McCain struck has gold by choosing Palin.

Posted by: JSS in FL | August 29, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

At least her claim to fame isn't plagiarism....

Posted by: Benny | August 29, 2008 2:22 PM | Report abuse

I totally agree with you tky about Johna. It's incalled for and very disrespectful. He knows exactly what he's doing. He should be ashamed.

Posted by: NObama08 | August 29, 2008 2:22 PM | Report abuse

ej i never said I was a democrat I'm voting for McCain read my posts further. ;) Let end it all now! Vote Republican!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:22 PM | Report abuse

I bet her pancakes are just delicious! That's the only thing she'll be good for Because McCain won't include her an any decisions that really affects his policies. It's still GWB all over again!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:22 PM | Report abuse

I love it... the Dems complaining that Palin is an empty PantSuit like Quayle... Um, who'd ever heard of Obama 5 years ago? I know he and John Edwards both did thier hard time (one term in 'the hole' in Hell's Kitchen (the US Senate)... I think McCain had more time in the Hanoy Hilton. I never thought I'd get there but I may vote McCain... Obama gives great speaches but personaly I'm tired of being told how bad my life sucks because of the evil republicans... in the words of Nacho Libre 'My life is good.. REALLY Gooood'... I don't need the salvation Obama is peddling!


Posted by: Style over substance | August 29, 2008 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Sebastian, dude, you are stupid. How can you say that Americans are stupid??? Barak will make a horrible president...

Posted by: Ayodeji | August 29, 2008 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Let me say that those of you mocking the fact that Gov. Palin has a baby with down syndrome, calling it a retard and such, have just pushed me over the edge. I am sickened by your responses and as a Democrat, let me say this, I refuse to be classified in a category associated with hate, disgust and distaste.

I will vote for McCain.

Posted by: Susan M. | August 29, 2008 2:22 PM | Report abuse

To Ayodeji The Black African Proud Conservative,

I would like you to back up your unsubstantiated statement that "women use abortion as a form of birth control". Women do NOT use abortion as a method of birth control. BIRTH CONTROL is used as a method of birth control. Do you know how traumatizing an abortion procedure is in comparison to say, a condom or the pill? I suspect you're some neo-con pretending to be someone you're not. Saying that women use abortion as a form of birth control is like saying people would rather chop off their fingers to shorten their nails instead of using a friggin nail clipper.

Posted by: tky | August 29, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is another example of snap decision insead of good judgement, kinda like Harriet Miers.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

NObama08 you should be ashamed. You support fascism.

Posted by: Johna | August 29, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

If don't nobody respond to me I swear I'll keep saying OBAMA/BIDEN '08

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEE HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Posted by: Freedomfighter | August 29, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

I know Hillary Clinton. She's a friend of mine. This women is no Hillary Clinton!
Posted by: Randy in Dallas | August 29, 2008 1:38 PM
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Thank God for that Randy!

We need people in office that are interested in what the "People" want... NOT what you "Think" the people want.

Sarah's record as Governor makes Obama's achievements’ look like they were written with crayons on a post-it note pad.

Posted by: Michael - Tennessee | August 29, 2008 2:24 PM | Report abuse

I'm an Obama supporter in this go 'round, so feel free to disregard, but I did used to like McCain back in 2000 because he was willing to stand up to the Christian Rightists who want to tell everyone how to live and were, and are, destroying the Republican Party. Now he's picked one of their most extreme darlings as VP. It's disappointing to me. We genuinely need a party of social liberalism and fiscal responsibility. In this pick, McCain just showed me that he intends to turn over social policy to the bible thumpers, and I cannot abide that. He was clever to pick the only one of their ilk who is not obviously so from the get go, but she's still one of the crazies.

Posted by: Texican | August 29, 2008 2:24 PM | Report abuse

The economy is in the toilet so I don't know why conservatives keep acting as if they have something to be proud of.

History has shown that the American people prosper more under DEMOCRATS than ReThuglicans. THAT'S A FACT.

Posted by: James King | August 29, 2008 2:24 PM | Report abuse

I hate to say it, but McCain just locked up the retard vote.

Posted by: Micheal Palin | August 29, 2008 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Susan M. good thats what I am hear for. The more McCain votes the quicker we can end America. Let do it. Vote Republican! :)

Posted by: Johna | August 29, 2008 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Micheal Palin yes he did! yes he did!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Thank you Susan M.!

I am steaming after reading these horrible responses. What is wrong with you people?

This Democrat will vote McCain!

Posted by: FedUp | August 29, 2008 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Dear Tky
there you go, why can't i be an african, black, and also very ring wing/conservative. you just made a very offensive assumption, and that's not right..i am african, black, and very conservative..

Posted by: Ayodeji-Proud African Conservative | August 29, 2008 2:26 PM | Report abuse

@tky are you really that blind and stupid?

Abortion is PRIMARILY (80-90%) of the time used to stop a baby from being born because the mother does not want to be pregnant...

HOW THE HELL IS THAT NOT BIRTH CONTROL???? It is stopping the birth process from happening you idiot. That IS birth control.

My God, liberals are such complete morons.

Posted by: Greg | August 29, 2008 2:26 PM | Report abuse

How about a reality check? Palin is pro life but pro hunting? Speaking of eliteist, what God does she pray to that believes one life is above that of another species? I guess the scientific evidence of evolution was planted to prove democrats are stupid?

Posted by: Katman | August 29, 2008 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Its McCain's 72nd birthday, but he just bought Obama the biggest present of his life, the White House. This election will be decided on the economy and foriegn affairs and he picks a someone with no knowledge of either? He says experience matters so he get's a VP with none? She has "Exec" exp? Really? Over polar bears, trout and bears? More people live in Newark, NJ than Alaska. Oh, but she fought corrupt Republicans, so her arguements for electing her the Republican VP will be talking about just how corrupt Republicans are. McCain is Bush, Jr and Sr, congratulations Ms. Quayle on your VP nomination!

Posted by: Happy Bday Obama! | August 29, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Freedomfighter | August 29, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

FedUp right on. All it takes is one retard to end America!

Anymore takers?

Posted by: Johna | August 29, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

God created evolution. Not that hard to understand.

Posted by: Greg | August 29, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

"Alaska is a cess pool" poster first says "You can buff and polish a turd..." and later, with the same mouth, says "Alaska politics are filthy..." "Alaska cess pool" is duplicitous so you can disregard "Alaska cess pool" comments.

McCain made the correct choice for VP. Who's better to serve this country than someone who has experience cleaning up a mess? Moreover, a leader who can make the tough decisions and stand up for what's right! Don't listen to one who argues "turd" and then alleges "filth" in the same paragraph? What an ignoramus!

Posted by: Amazed in SD | August 29, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Furthermore, the majority of black american women that i have heard of having abortions, do it solely to terminate a pregnancy. they were not raped, abused, nor molested. so it is indeed a fact that the majority of abortions are done as a means of birth control. and, i think is extremely sad. in my country, abortions are not that prevalent at all.

Posted by: Ayodeji | August 29, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

To Janet: How can a 'staunch' Hillary supporter shift so easily to McCain after he adds a woman to the ticket? Last I looked Palin does not have the same values and intent as Clinton. Possibly a decent lady, but she is not Clinton.
She's probably an exciting choice in the eyes of a republican woman but not this liberal. Try sticking to the issues and see who you agree with more. Stop being so menstrual and use your brain.

Posted by: Ayne | August 29, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Just curious can anyone see this message

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:29 PM | Report abuse


Ed Rollins:Telegraph.co.uk Sarah "Barracuda" Palin is a strong choice by McCain
My bet is on Biden!

OLD McCain alias Bush- Did it again
NO JUDGEMENT!!

Boy is she unqualified

Posted by: GHM | August 29, 2008 2:30 PM | Report abuse

KATMAN,
Animals are not people. Go have a burger and Obama and Oprah love them.

Posted by: Johna | August 29, 2008 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Hey, You do the Math!!
Sarah has results is her record, Obama does NOT!

It's not about how long you claim to have served, it's about what you have accomplished while you served!

Throw Tenure out the window!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:30 PM | Report abuse

A person who highlights corruption in politics that must be a first in America albeit a woman. If she is half as good as Maggie Thatcher was in the UK and half as courageous as Maggie Thatcher was in the UK ib taking on the unions this woman will be twice as good as Obama and twice as gutsy as Obama. I don,t think she,d sit in an audience listening to racist ranting and not have the guts to walk out. Don,t worry too much about the experience angle because Maggie Thatcher didn,t have much but she had something much more valuable common sense, financial expertise andand the guts to do what she thought was right. Obama should be in films with the other Hollywood celenbrities. Oh that good old Arnold Schwarzenegger was running for President then you would have a real man even though he lives in Los Anggeles

Posted by: robo1936 | August 29, 2008 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Freedomfighter is a fool!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:30 PM | Report abuse


Most of the opposition and criticism of Palin being experessed here are coming from men. Can you say sexist Democrat?

Posted by: eddie | August 29, 2008 2:31 PM | Report abuse

I suggest that everyone on the forum start listening to Rush, Sean, Mark Levine from now on. All you Barak Obama supporters might learn something about your fraudulent candidate Obama

Posted by: Ayodeji the Proud Black African Conservative | August 29, 2008 2:31 PM | Report abuse

The only retard mentioned here is your Nigerian Obama. What do they call a Nigerian? hmmm. That's right!

Posted by: Johnathon696 | August 29, 2008 2:31 PM | Report abuse

"............I think the women i know in my life are smarter than that. I give them more credit than that. Apparantly McCain doesnt."

Yeah, Obama knows it better.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:31 PM | Report abuse

i like cheese

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Speaking as the parent of a child with mental retardation, I just want to say that you folks tossing around the term as an insult basically suck. You show the sensitivity of morons (as opposed to "retards," who come by their deficits honestly, rather than by choice). Dems and Repubs alike. This is one of the big drawbacks of open blogs: stupid people get to pollute the environment with their dim awareness of the human family and the huge challenges some face each day of their lives. These are real humans, folks, and their struggles would easily break most peoples' hearts.

I'm absolutely opposed to Palin and McCain, but I would never dream of slandering Palin's mentally challenged child.

Grow the *&%$ up, please.

Posted by: DW | August 29, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

This isn'r fair. Now Joe Biden has to beat up a woman in the VP debate. He is going to look bad no matter how good he looks.

It would have been more fun to have "Who Am I? Lieberman" as McCain's pick. Biden would have drawn and quartered the jelly fish with the sword of truth and justice.

But with her approval of aerial hunting of wolves she will pick up that important block of Idaho ranchers who are convinced re-introduction of wolves into our wilderness areas is a communist plot.

Damn, she is kinda hot looking.

So, bottom line, is she a clever ploy for McSame to steal some Hillary votes? Never mind she will be the leader of the free world after McSame blows out an artery.

I hope she steals away those Hillary finatics who insist they will vote republican. Would even be nice if they shipped them all up to Alaska to campaign up there. And never to be heard from again after Nov. 4.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

John McCain has been using women his whole life, why is this a surprise? Nothing against Palin except her judgment in being used in this way. Any women that would vote for McCain because of Palin is the same women who would thank her husband for giving her a new vacuum cleaner for her birthday.

Posted by: garage | August 29, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

I SAID I LIKE CHEESSE

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

@tky are you really that blind and stupid?

HOW THE HELL IS THAT NOT BIRTH CONTROL???? It is stopping the birth process from happening you idiot. That IS birth control.

My God, liberals are such complete morons.

Posted by: Greg | August 29, 2008 2:26 PM

-----------------------------
Birth CONTROL
Control- To exercise authoritative or dominating influence over; direct.
Birth control is not abortion. Birth control is a phrase used to describe the prevention of pregnancy. last time i checked when they talk about handing out birth control in high schools they arent handing our aborted fetus's.
God conservatives are such morons.
By the way i would LOVE LOVE LOVE to see your sourcing for "Abortion is PRIMARILY (80-90%) of the time used to stop a baby from being born because the mother does not want to be pregnant"
Or is that just a product of a morons thinking passed off as fact?
Passing off ideology as FACT is a sickness.
You need help

Posted by: feastorafamine | August 29, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Let's see how she goes toe to toe with Biden on national security issues during the VP debates.

If you 'publicans aint scared now, you gonna be.

Imagine if she was running for the Presidency! Would you vote for her? Would she have even made it to the primaries? Do you even understand what responsibilities a VP has?

Posted by: Ryan | August 29, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Okay, go on you hateful liberal...You liberals are full of hate. You hate America, you despise wealthy people, you hate success. For God's sake, rejoice in America. America is the greatest country on this bloody planet mate....

Posted by: Ayodeji | August 29, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

I love women

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Palin is window dressing to attract women voters. The American women are not stupid, they see through this cynical attempt to get their vote. Sorry, but this Phoenix will not fly.

Posted by: ghostcommander | August 29, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse

After 20 years of church education, only hate and anger are left with your Obama people.

Amen

Posted by: jy2008 | August 29, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse

McCain Palin 2008 McCain Palin 2008

Posted by: Ayodeji | August 29, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Al Burgess:

Who are you to judge when a woman should return to work after having a child? Did you give up your career to be a father?

Posted by: Deserie | August 29, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Obama, made a major political mistake on not getting Hillary. period!

McCain, helped his campaign by picking another maverick and female who can stand up to anyone. A new inspiring pick the republicans need. She has 80 percent approval in Alaska.

Obama is a smart inspiring speaker, but Palin's actions speak louder than political words. She has fought corruption in both parties in Alaska. When she speaks she says it like it is, unlike polished career politicians. Some people can talk the talk, but Palin can walk the walk.

Now the race is exciting! history will be made period with either Obama or McCain!

Posted by: abel | August 29, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

To whom ever thinks these post are from men, I am female, will not vote for MC-Palin, just because she is female. I think the Republicans have a very week ticket, and will not vote in another 4 years of the some old thing. This country needs to be 180* from where it is right now and I don't see any way the Republican party is showing that.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin WHO?????

Posted by: GHM | August 29, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Johna. You simply cannot be a cruel as your postings about the Palin baby. That child was born to be loved, just like all babies, including you. Let me guess...you are pro-abortion. You need some prayers, which I will gladly provide for you.

Posted by: horray!!! | August 29, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Oh. boy! McCain finally picked a VP! Now we know why none of the pundits could guess his pick. After all, who could guess the outcome of the "eeny-meeny-miney-mo" method???!

Of course, she could step in as President should McCain kick the bucket? Then we can all watch the final indignity placed on our American heads as she squares off with Putin, Ahmadinijad and the other political hammerhead sharks. I don't care how this may sound, she is no Hillary Clinton.

What the heck was McCain thinking of? How can he diss anyone's judgment? He's showing great judgment! Actually, I'm glad he picked her. Now we know that Obama's a shoe-in!

Posted by: George Wilson | August 29, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Michele Obama and Ben Pershing heads are way to big for their bodies.
Just something to think about.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse

So McCain cheats on his 1st wife, a swimsuit model, to trade-up to marry a wealthy beer heiress. Now he picks a runner-up Ms Alaska who just graduated from the PTA to the Governorship of one of the smallest and corrupt states in the Union who promises to overturn Roe v Wade? McCain must think women are the dumbest people on the planet.

Posted by: Trophy VeeP | August 29, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Man on man, lol....

Obama/Biden 08 "Yes We Will" lol...


Ok she too is 90% with Bush - Thanks GOP your right your our best witness that your policies and stragey and lack of judegement is poor - Nothing against the women can't judge who you don't know is their time for us to see if she could step up in a moment second to be president of this country - Obama has proven he can lead look at his VP Biden :-)

Posted by: LOL | August 29, 2008 2:38 PM | Report abuse

All of you trying to describe Governor Palin as inexperienced need to realize she is more experienced in actual time in the Office seat doing jobs anywhere to NObama, AND in more important jobs. Street Organizer and Trusr Fund mis-manager doesn't cut it with me. Sorry.

Gee, I can only hope that Gov. Palin did not sit in J. Wright's racist church for 20 year, does not know Tony Resko nor that idiot Weatherman bomb thorwer Professor who grins while walking on my flag...She doesn't? Ok....good

Posted by: Fred | August 29, 2008 2:39 PM | Report abuse

@feastorfamine

so what percentage of abortions in your twisted little mind are simply from rape or because of the fact the baby has a handicap?

http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/fb_induced_abortion.html

there's your facts, pal. If you are going to act like most abortions are because of medical reasons, you are completely delusional. You know as well as I do why women get abortions... to avoid the responsibility of raising a child.

Posted by: greg | August 29, 2008 2:39 PM | Report abuse

no matter how you look at it, electing Palin would be a huge step forward for women and the woman's movement.

Those screaming experience are just male chauvinists. Palin has commanded the Alaska National Guard. The closest Obama ever got to the military was when he decided not to visit our wounded troops in Germany.

Palin has been a chief executive for over 10 years. Obama has never been in charge of anything except his Senate committee that he never met with.

Palin has dealt and negotiated with both Russia and Canada. Obama has dealt and negotiated with, wait a minute its coming to me, Obama has dealt and negotiated with, uh, uh, all sheet, he has never dealt or negotiated with anyone.

You know the attacks on Palin coming from the male Democrats are based primarily on male chauvinism. The Dem's reaction to McCain's selection is a clear indicator of where the "good old boys club" is in charge. That is if you had any doubts after the way the Dem convention treated Hillary Clinton.

Posted by: eddie | August 29, 2008 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Ayodeji wrote: "Sebastian, dude, you are stupid. How can you say that Americans are stupid???"

There words:
George Walker Bush

Posted by: Fate | August 29, 2008 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Yes, Yes, Yes

Posted by: Pam Bensen | August 29, 2008 2:40 PM | Report abuse

How could a woman that prioritizes her career over the nurturing of a newborn baby have good judgment? She is worst than an infidel!! Read your bible!!

Posted by: Al Burgess | August 29, 2008 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Why didn't her husband hold the baby duing the speech?

Posted by: Tim | August 29, 2008 2:40 PM | Report abuse

The retard sympathizer vote is McCains' to lose. The Obama camp will need to dig deep to find a trump with Palin busy humping like a rabbit.

Posted by: Michael Palin | August 29, 2008 2:40 PM | Report abuse


but they are faced with the decision because of their inability to keep their legs closed and just say no.

Posted by: greg, | August 29, 2008 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Gov Palin? What a dreadful and irrational choice!
You just lost the bid for the Presidency, McCain!
She has animal furs displayed on the walls of her home?
Killing polar bears for trophies?
Investigated for corruption?
What a perfectly awful person!
I am a feminist too.

Posted by: rita | August 29, 2008 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Notice they wiped out all the web information about Sarah Palin. I guess the Republicans have to rewrite it.

Posted by: GHM | August 29, 2008 2:41 PM | Report abuse

I applaud Senator McCain for a great pick.
It shores up his conservative base and reinforces his reform-maverick image.

and yes, it will peel off a substanial number of women who supported Hillary, my wife being one of them.

Posted by: JohnQPublic | August 29, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

All of you dems who talk about Palin lacking experience have lost your head's somewhere. You chose an inexperience ametuar over an experienced woman.

Posted by: benny | August 29, 2008 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Palin has 18 months experience as Gov. with a scandal to show for it and just weeks ago was praising Obama's energy plan to increase the supply of natural gas from Alaska.

Obama has 3 yrs as a Senator, 7 years as a state senator.

Palin helped run a business with her husband and Obama co-ordinated churches to help at-risk communities after the steel plants closed here in Chicago.

Experience is a bs issue, Lincoln had less experience than Obama (3 years in the House, similar time in state gov't) Kennedy had little experience. Bush had all the executive experience people could ask for and he's run the country into the ground inside and out.

McCain has no executive experience either, but voted for 24 years to oppose the environmental legislation that has left us with no alternative to $4/gallon gas. (No wonder the Exxon loves him so much?) Imagine if we had gradually pushed the environmental standards of our automobiles up from 1980, $4 gas is not nearly as bad if we'd been able to double our avg. car mileage (20mpg - 40mpg) the way Europe and Japan were able to. McCain's "experience" has helped us get to the current state of affairs.

If you just spend 5 minutes and look at what Obama's talking about, it's carefully thought out ideas to move the country forward. McCain offers carelessly thought out plans to maintain control of a country that has let our leadership ruin our internat'l reputation. I know, I know, who cares what They think about us? Well, we all should now that our army is over-expended and Russia knows we're not a threat, blustering all over the Caucuses. And who's gonna sign up to help us finally finish the al Q'aeda hunt that both Bush and Mccain ignored in order to take down Saddam Hussein (whose country was in no shape to threaten us, and was simultaneously controlling Iran's ambitions). Our sorry global reputation has made the world more dangerous.

We need someone who can do more than talk a big game, the Republican strong suit. We need someone who can think for himself (and out-strategize the Clinton machine), who knows how to listen to advisors, listen to God, listen to the American people, and find the path that makes the most sense.

Now stop reading the news it's just a soap opera for old men, turn off the television, go read the candidates ideas, and make up your own mind. Kids, it's time to take our country back from our bickering parents.

Obama08

Posted by: easy kids | August 29, 2008 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Maybe it is not his baby.

Posted by: ?? | August 29, 2008 2:44 PM | Report abuse

I am sorely disappointed in my fellow Americans who are SO quick to judge someone whom we all know so little about. Upon brief research one would learn what an incredible person Palin is. She is a family woman (5 children!), is married to a commercial fisherman (blue-collar), Alaskan native, high school sweetheart (faithfulness & morality) and has a trackrecord (albeit brief) of standing up for what is right! As a conservative and governor of Alaska she doesn't desire to destroy our Last Frontier, she's a staunch supporter of conserving nature and wildlife in the most practical and responsible way. She undoubtedly has greater foreign relations experience than Obama thanks to Alaska's proximity to both Canada and Russia.

Naive Democrats must learn practicality, practice due diligence, and recognize her for the PERSON she is.

I applaud McCain for such a refreshing pick and am excited to see what transpires this fall.

McCain/Palin 2008!!!

Posted by: Ian | August 29, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

"""""The arguement is not that she is inexperienced, it is that you are hypocrits by claiming Obama is when she actually has LESS expereicne

Go ahead, spin the Governonr bit, as is Alaska were some important state.

God, do we have to spell out everything for you idiots?"""""""
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What a idiot!
Michigan and Florida are big states but they are not counted.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Lord, I see a lot of drivel here about Palin's inexperience. How about Barack Hussein Obama's whopping 133 days in the Senate's office before his running for the presidency?

This woman has vast amount of time spent in office, as compared to Barack Hussein Obama. Not to mention, no baggage with America hating black ministers such as "LOUIS FARRAKHAN",and "Jeremiah Wright".

Now, after many years of membership in Reverend Wright’s church, and finally the exposure of such racial hate “preaching”, Obama claims he never experienced it while he was a member of the church.

Sure, 20 years a member and Obama didn’t have a clue!

You really want someone like this to lead the United States?

Attached are a couple of “YouTube” film clips on both of these hate mongers, and what they really think of our America!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWxNeGOXSoA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jc2FCJ7zWEQ&feature=related

You really want someone with beliefs like these, to lead the United States?

Posted by: Richard | August 29, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Johnathon696--

We do not need anymore daughter diddling racists here. You do not deserve to be an American. Either kill yourself or get out of this country. You are not wanted here.

Posted by: TruePatriot | August 29, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Democrats are worried about Governor Palin being a heartbeat away from becoming President? What about Obama? Obama has done nothing as a Senator, and has ZERO executive experience. Gimme a break, Democrats, 'cause your man Obama does not have any qualifications to be President. JFK was a U.S. Senator for 8 years, and U.S. Congressman for 6 years, when he was elected President. Plus JFK was a WWII veteran. Obama the new JFK? That's a pathetic joke.

Posted by: SwingVoter | August 29, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Democrats are worried about Governor Palin being a heartbeat away from becoming President? What about Obama? Yes, what about Obama??? Obama has done nothing as a Senator, and has ZERO executive experience. Gimme a break, Democrats, 'cause your man Obama does not have any qualifications to be President. JFK was a U.S. Senator for 8 years, and U.S. Congressman for 6 years, when he was elected President. Plus JFK was a WWII veteran. Obama the new JFK? That's a pathetic joke.

Posted by: SwingVoter | August 29, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Johnathon696--

We do not need anymore daughter diddling racists here. You do not deserve to be an American. Either kill yourself or get out of this country. You are not wanted here.

Posted by: truePatriot | August 29, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Johnathon696--

We do not need anymore daughter diddling racists here. You do not deserve to be an American. Either kill yourself or get out of this country. You are not wanted here.

Posted by: truePatriot | August 29, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

I think it would have been better if her name was Plain at least it would have rhymed.

Posted by: Not ready | August 29, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

I think it would have been better if her name was Plain at least it would have rhymed.

Posted by: Not ready | August 29, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

I think it would have been better if her name was Plain at least it would have rhymed.

Posted by: Not ready | August 29, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Johnathon696--

We do not need anymore daughter diddling racists here. You do not deserve to be an American. Either kill yourself or get out of this country. You are not wanted here.

Posted by: TruePatriot | August 29, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

To Ayodeji The Black African Proud Conservative

I grew up in a conservative family surrounded by fellow conservative people and NONE of them believe that abortion is used as a method of birth control. Birth control is to prevent pregnancy, not terminate pregnancy. Condoms are birth control because it prevents fertilization. Ditto with the pill. Abortion is to terminate after conception. You and your fellow crazies are constantly citing random numbers to make it seem like every woman on earth is regularly getting abortions every weekend because it's fun. That's just so incredibly stupid that I pity you.

In actuality, the number of abortions in this country is incredibly low because we DO have access to birth control. And the fact of the matter is, if a woman has the reason to want an abortion, the law is not going to stop her. And I am not going to let america sink back into the dark ages when women who have nowhere to turn are constantly dying from botched "coat hanger" type abortions. Unlike what moron neo-cons believe, these desperate women don't actually ENJOY abortions. It's not exactly a walk in the park.

Posted by: tky | August 29, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

The most important state for energy is not the state of Alaska but the state of our transition to Renewable energy.

Palin is not strong on the issue of energy, she is strong like the vice president in supporting an energy policy of burn, burn, burn - until we burn up the planet. We can not drill our way to energy independence. This is short term, stopgap, shortsighted thinking about one of the greatest crises that face us.

What initiatives has Palin led on the development of alternative energy.
Does she know anything about wind or solar energy? What about biodiesel?

Posted by: Frank_I | August 29, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

I can't wait to see the Democrats run with this picture of her wearing a mink stole. That will really appeal to the Hillary crowd. Yeah, sure it will.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5d/Sarahpalincrop2.jpg

Posted by: Palin kills | August 29, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Ayodeji, sounds like you've been drinking a little to much from the well of Ann Coulter.

The water is poisoned :)

Posted by: Ryan | August 29, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Ayodeji, sounds like you've been drinking a little to much from the well of Ann Coulter.

The water is poisoned :)

Posted by: Ryan | August 29, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

McShame will not make it through his first term....look up the prognosis of his type of cancer or talk to a doctor who is willing to be honest because our country depends upon it.....Palin what's her educational background.....how many children (I'm sorry but this earth can't take 5 children per woman) What was she thinking):!!!

Posted by: Jerry | August 29, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

It's sad to me to see that so many people aren't seeing through the cynical move McCain has made. It saddens me that women believe that just ANY woman will do! Do you think McCain would have done this if the stakes and political diversity weren't so high? Appauling move McCain. This is not a game! This is our future! I'll be voting for Obama now.

Posted by: American Woman | August 29, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

I can't wait to see the Democrats run with this picture of her wearing a mink stole. That will really appeal to the Hillary crowd. Yeah, sure it will.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5d/Sarahpalincrop2.jpg

Posted by: Palin kills | August 29, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

In a bizarro way I believe McCain's selection of Palin could actually work against him with some women.

My mother is the perfect example of the Democratic-leaning Hillary supporter/Obama doubter that this choice is expected to attract to the GOP's side. I had to call her and get her immediate reaction after the decision was announced. She saw it as an insult: "Let's nominate a woman. Any woman. Who cares if she's qualified? Women are stupid and will automatically vote for her because she's a woman."

She found particularly galling Palin's open call to disaffected Clinton voters during today's speech.

One mom is a small sample, but I would not be shocked if other women voters across the country have the same reaction.

Posted by: samharmon | August 29, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

How can Dems keep a straight face when claiming Palin doesn't have the "experience" to be the GOP VP candidate? How is she less qualified than the Dem's candidate for President? Hmmm, I guess it's all relative.

Posted by: jane m | August 29, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

To Ayodeji The Black African Proud Conservative

I grew up in a conservative family surrounded by fellow conservative people and NONE of them believe that abortion is used as a method of birth control. Birth control is to prevent pregnancy, not terminate pregnancy. Condoms are birth control because it prevents fertilization. Ditto with the pill. Abortion is to terminate after conception. You and your fellow crazies are constantly citing random numbers to make it seem like every woman on earth is regularly getting abortions every weekend because it's fun. That's just so incredibly stupid that I pity you.

In actuality, the number of abortions in this country is incredibly low because we DO have access to birth control. And the fact of the matter is, if a woman has the reason to want an abortion, the law is not going to stop her. And I am not going to let america sink back into the dark ages when women who have nowhere to turn are constantly dying from botched "coat hanger" type abortions. Unlike what moron neo-cons believe, these desperate women don't actually ENJOY abortions. It's not exactly a walk in the park.

Lets not forget the right of young teenagers who are victims of incest or women who are victims of rape. They have the right to choose not to have their rapist's baby.

Posted by: tky | August 29, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

@feastorfamine

so what percentage of abortions in your twisted little mind are simply from rape or because of the fact the baby has a handicap?

http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/fb_induced_abortion.html

there's your facts, pal. If you are going to act like most abortions are because of medical reasons, you are completely delusional. You know as well as I do why women get abortions... to avoid the responsibility of raising a child.

Posted by: greg | August 29, 2008 2:39 PM

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Thats your source? My gawd i now have the freedom to use the carvings on a tree one of my liberal friends might be hugging as a source.
First off i didnt say what percentage of abortions were due to medical reasons or potential deformity. What i said is that abortion is not a form of birth control. To suggest women use abortion merely as a means of birth control might be true if you have the moronic conservative position that birth control should be enitely based upon abstinence. Women have the right to do what they will with their own bodies. If you are a man you dont get an opnion. understand? I can have my views but i am not delusiional enough to think my opinion carries ANY weight at all about the decisons women make with thier family and doctors. Only 22% of all women are pro-life. That outta tell you something. By all means have an opnion but be aware its as useless as mine unless you are a medical freak and can actually get pregnant

Posted by: feastorafamine | August 29, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

You guys don't get it!! This woman just had a BABY 4 months ago and would rather get on the campaign trail than nurture her child!! She does not have her priorities in order!! She has not spent any time with her child, since she had him!! She is a woman who puts off her responsibilities on other people!! She needs to get her priorities together!! If John wanted a woman, he should have picked Condie Rice!! Sarah Palin does not have it together,and she is an easy target for those Dems!! Not to mention she would not stand a chance against Joe Biden in a debate!! Where is Romney?!!

Posted by: Al Burgess | August 29, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

This kinda sums it up for the republican party for me "Puppets". It really doesn't matter who they put in place for the republican ticket, they are just puppets to who really runs the nation BIG OIL and the WAR Industry which are one of the same, just different hats. I like the way they show her shooting the the gun trying to appeal to the rednecks.

Posted by: Robby | August 29, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

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GREAT DAY FOR DEMOCRATS!!!!!


OBAMA LANDSLIDE WIN IN NOV.!!!!!!!!!

THANKS JOHNNY Mc!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Posted by: blueinTX | August 29, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

To everyone here. I used to work for a campagin. Our job was to get on the web and say whatever we wanted to slam the other side and make people angry!

That is exactly what is occuring here. I know because they are using the same book as I had.

Posted by: Blogosphere2008 | August 29, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

You guys don't get it!! This woman just had a BABY 4 months ago and would rather get on the campaign trail than nurture her child!! She does not have her priorities in order!! She has not spent any time with her child, since she had him!! She is a woman who puts off her responsibilities on other people!! She needs to get her priorities together!! If John wanted a woman, he should have picked Condie Rice!! Sarah Palin does not have it together,and she is an easy target for those Dems!! Not to mention she would not stand a chance against Joe Biden in a debate!! Where is Romney?!!

Posted by: Al Burgess | August 29, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse

so what percentage of abortions in your twisted little mind are simply from rape or because of the fact the baby has a handicap?

http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/fb_induced_abortion.html

there's your facts, pal. If you are going to act like most abortions are because of medical reasons, you are completely delusional. You know as well as I do why women get abortions... to avoid the responsibility of raising a child.

Posted by: greg | August 29, 2008 2:39 PM

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Thats your source? My gawd i now have the freedom to use the carvings on a tree one of my liberal friends might be hugging as a source.
First off i didnt say what percentage of abortions were due to medical reasons or potential deformity. What i said is that abortion is not a form of birth control. To suggest women use abortion merely as a means of birth control might be true if you have the moronic conservative position that birth control should be enitely based upon abstinence. Women have the right to do what they will with their own bodies. If you are a man you dont get an opnion. understand? I can have my views but i am not delusiional enough to think my opinion carries ANY weight at all about the decisons women make with thier family and doctors. Only 22% of all women are pro-life. That outta tell you something. By all means have an opnion but be aware its as useless as mine unless you are a medical freak and can actually get pregnant

Posted by: feastorafamine | August 29, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse


MCCAIN BLEW IT FOR YOU RIGHTWING NUTJOBS!!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: blueinTX | August 29, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

First thing: Please read the news. Please at least read some biographies on McCain, Biden, Obama and Palin. I read about 60 percent of these comments, both from Democrates and Republicans and it amazes me how much of the information is misconstrued and even incorrect. At least go to Wikipedia for some information.

Second thing: I am an American. I am a moderate. I'm torn between both canidates, but I am more excited to be an American than ever before because we are living in historical times for our young country. For the first time in our history, we have a chance to have an African-American president. For the first time in our history, we have a chance to have a woman as our second-in-command. With that in mind, we can't just base our decisions on the historical aspect of the election, but on the aspect of who really can make this country what we the American people want it to be.

Please read the news, watch the news, talk to people, talk to well-informed people, talk to biased people, talk to unbiased people, read books and just educate yourself BEFORE making incredulous and ridiculous claims. I for one, will be more inclined to listen to the opposition when they are more educated and fluent in what they believe.

This election should not be based on silly things like "experience" or "celebrity," but based on if the people running for election truly REPRESENT you. I personally think that we are focusing on ridiculous things from both parties. I want to know what the candidates from both sides believe and how they are going to outline a way for America to be an amazing and well-respected country again.

Posted by: Jrobinson | August 29, 2008 2:56 PM | Report abuse

I love it! Barack Obama can argue that McCain's VP choice has little experience, but a Governor has much more worthwhile experiences than a Junior Senator. When the Obama camp criticizes her I think they'll be directly criticizing their top of the ticket. I decided who to vote for today, go McCain/Palin!!

Posted by: Simon | August 29, 2008 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Wow! All this arguing when it's all quite clear. Republicans suck and Democrats are the best! WEEEEE..

Posted by: Jason | August 29, 2008 2:56 PM | Report abuse

To greg,

wow, you're pretty nutty. If you're going to post a link, at least find reputable information like from NIH instead of some unknown link that's probably full of spyware and viruses.

The fact of the matter is, any moron, you included, can write and post a ton of BS online. Only reputable sources are believable. Everything else is just trash.

And if women get abortions to "avoid responsibility", what does that say about all the men? Last time I checked, a woman cannot get pregnant without a man. However, a man can get an unwilling woman pregnant with rape. And there are a lot of sick men on earth (remember the Austrian guy who locked up his OWN daughter in the basement for years and fathered numerous children with her?)

Greg, you're wrong to place all the blame on women. I hope no woman is willing to help you breed.

Posted by: tky | August 29, 2008 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Inexperience isn't OFF the table, it's now a focus that democrats are trapped with. If/when they talk about inexperience in a "VP" running-mate of a VERY experienced McCain (the PRESIDENT candidate) they are acknowledging it really IS an issue for Obama, a totally inexperienced charmer trying to qualify as the democratic candidate for PRESIDENT. They can't ignore the fact that the votes are for McCain or Obama.

Posted by: grayfox_44 | August 29, 2008 2:56 PM | Report abuse

McCains' selection is insulting to women. It is like when H.W. Bush picked Dan Quayle because of his looks. McCain underestimates our intelligence if he thinks that we will vote for any woman--especially one who is rabidly anti-women's rights.

Posted by: Karen W. | August 29, 2008 2:57 PM | Report abuse

@feastorfamine

"If you are a man you dont get an opnion. understand?"

that is all you had to say, fascist. anything that comes out of your mouth is garbage after seeing you say something like that.

go ahead and live in your delusional self-centered world. karma will kick your ass eventually.

Posted by: Greg | August 29, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Is that it?

Posted by: EB | August 29, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

"And what item in the article above qualifies her to be a heartbeat away from the presidency?" ... it's still more than Obama ... ha ha

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Greg, I would worry about yourself first before i'd ever worry about karma coming after feasterfamine.

You are the epitome of a blind, sanctimonious fool.

Posted by: tky | August 29, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

John, John, John, I almost turned replubican when you ran against Bush. But now I can see your just like the rest of them. Peoples Replubic of China, Replubic of the Solviet Union and the US Republican Party. We'd be better off handing it all back over to the Queen.

Posted by: Born & Die Dem Blue | August 29, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

I have seen more than one poster who said that they are former Clinton supporters and NOW will vote for McCain because of Palin. The insinuation being that they are voting for a woman because... well, because it's a woman.

Am I right about that? And if I am.. please someone explain this to me. I'm not being facetious. I truly don't understand that mentality.

Posted by: Gina | August 29, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

The abortion argument is simple really.

Allow it for mediacl reasons, rape or incest. not for birth control.

Easy and done. And to say that only women have a choice in the matter is completely corrupt, self centered and bigoted.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

@Gina

than ask the 99% of black voters why they are voting for Obama to find out...

Posted by: greg | August 29, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

“Sarah Palin’s record is not extensive — just two years ago she was the mayor of a city of less than 10,000 people — but what her record indicates is troubling. This spring, she opposed the listing of polar bears as a ‘threatened’ species. She supports the brutal aerial hunting of wolves. And she has been a friend of Big Oil, opposing a windfall profits tax on the oil industry that could fund affordable clean energy for more Americans. Palin’s husband works for BP.”

Palins' husband works for British Petroleum. No wonder McCain picked her.

Posted by: BIG OIL=BIG TROUBLE | August 29, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

@feastorfamine

"If you are a man you dont get an opnion. understand?"

that is all you had to say, fascist. anything that comes out of your mouth is garbage after seeing you say something like that.

go ahead and live in your delusional self-centered world. karma will kick your ass eventually.

Posted by: Greg | August 29, 2008 2:58 PM

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Oh i see so TELLING women what to do with their bodies isnt fascist?
I suggest that the decision is theirs to make and i am a fascist?
Ewwww boy OK. Seems pretty clear what is more fascist to me.
YOU ARE A MAN
You dont get to say what women do with thier bodies with the counsel of family and their doctors.
Its simple
Its not POR abortion
Its called pro choice.
last time i checked fascism doesnt have much room for choices. Self centered would mean i would think my opnion is law...saounds familiar doesnt it?

Posted by: feastorafamine | August 29, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Dems are so double standard.

Dems say she's not experienced ... thats funny ... she still has more experience than Obama!

If McCain picks Powell, it's because he's black. If he picks Romney, it's because he's religous. Picks a woman just because she is a woman? ... please.
One thing for sure, it's gonna anger and perhaps worry lots of Dems!

Perhaps McCain is basing his decision on his and his party's standard ... he's not going to let CNN or the NYTimes (or other Dems) pick for him ... DUH!

I can't wait for the debates ... Obama will have to explain his generic and baseless policies ... probably end his sentences with a "I'll undo whatever Bush did ... can I get a Go-Obama?!"

Biden, who by the way, really is more experienced, will have to chime in and help his buddy out. Which reminds me, ... using Democrat standards; I think Obama chose Biden to get the white vote.

Double standard Dems, ... whats good for the goose, is good for the gander.

Posted by: observer | August 29, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

@feastorfamine

where is the baby's choice? where is the father's choice?

thats the fascism. you don't get that though, do you?

Posted by: Greg | August 29, 2008 3:04 PM | Report abuse

I fail to see how selecting Charlton Heston in a dress is going to help reform Washington. While not a legal qualification, the Vice President should be able to find the Capitol without the help of a cab driver.

Posted by: Wild Bill | August 29, 2008 3:05 PM | Report abuse

Husband also works for BP and from wikipedia: Governor Palin is currently under investigation by an independent investigator hired by the legislature to determine if she abused her power when firing Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan. On July 11, 2008, Palin dismissed Walter Monegan as Commissioner of Public Safety and instead offered him a position as executive director of the state Alcoholic Beverage Control Board, which he subsequently turned down. The Commisioner serves at the will of the governor, so her right to fire him is not in dispute; but Monegan alleged shortly after his dismissal that it may have been partly due to his reluctance to fire an Alaska State Trooper, Mike Wooten, who had been involved in a divorce and child custody battle with Palin's sister, Molly McCann.In 2006, before Palin was governor, Wooten was briefly suspended for ten days for threatening to kill McCann's (and Palin's) father, tasering his 11-year-old stepson (at the stepson's request), and violating game laws. After a union protest, the suspension was reduced to five days.Palin replaced Monegan with Chuck Kopp, who had previously been removed from supervision of an employee he had allegedly sexually harassed. Palin knew of Kopp's alleged sexual harassment before she appointed Kopp.Palin asserted that her dismissal of Monegan was unrelated to the fact that he had not fired Wooten, and asserts that Monegan was instead dismissed for not adequately filling state trooper vacancies, and because he "did not turn out to be a team player on budgeting issues." Palin acknowledged that a member of her administration, Frank Bailey, did contact the Department of Public Safety regarding Wooten, but both Palin and Bailey say that happened without her knowledge and was unrelated to her dismissal of Monegan. Bailey was put on leave for two months for acting outside the scope of his authority as the Director of Boards and Commissions. Commissioner Monegan received no severance pay, though at the same time another dismissed Commissioner, Charles Kopp (who served only 11 days) received $10,000.
In response to Palin's statement that she had nothing to hide, in August 2008 the Alaska Legislature hired Steve Branchflower to investigate Palin and her staff for possible abuse of power surrounding the dismissal. The investigation is being overseen by Democratic State Senator Hollis French, who says that the Palin administration has been cooperating and thus subpoenas are unnecessary. The Palin administration itself was the first to release an audiotape of Bailey making inquiries about the status of the Wooten investigation.

Posted by: garage | August 29, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Palins' husband works for British Petroleum. This move is going to hideously backfire on Bush-Cheney, I mean, McCain-Palin.

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Four more years.

Posted by: BIG OIL | August 29, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Obama supporter--
"We Won, We Won"

Posted by: Jason | August 29, 2008 3:08 PM | Report abuse

@feastorfamine

and the reason abortions (as you put it) are not fun is simple...

because it's morally wrong, and the woman knows it is. the sex part is fun, but you don't want to deal with the responsibility of it later.

And yes, I am married and have a child. We didnt expect him, but we are glad we have him.

And my wife is pro life. Go ahead. Assume she is a mindless robot. I know your argument before you make it. The bottom line is that abortion is used by millions of women to avoid the responsibility of raising a child.

Posted by: Greg | August 29, 2008 3:08 PM | Report abuse

try something different and vote to help the country - vote nader.

Posted by: chad | August 29, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Gov Palin? What a dreadful and irrational choice!
"You just lost the bid for the Presidency, McCain!
She has animal furs displayed on the walls of her home?
Killing polar bears for trophies?
Investigated for corruption?
What a perfectly awful person!
I am a feminist too."

Another Obama girl? Cheers!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 3:11 PM | Report abuse

"Democrats deal in reality"....this statement gets the star for making me laugh the hardest today.

Here's your reality: Compare resumes for McCain and Obama.

Posted by: Feebes | August 29, 2008 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Nader? Are you seriously that stupid?

It was Dems voting for Nader that put Dumb Dumb Dubya in the White House the first time. A vote for Nader would be incredibly stupid.

Posted by: Throw away your vote | August 29, 2008 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Nader? Are you seriously that stupid?

It was Dems voting for Nader that put Dumb Dumb Dubya in the White House the first time. A vote for Nader would be incredibly stupid.

Posted by: Throw away your vote | August 29, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

It is sooooooo funny to hear the Dems cry and boo hoo that Palin doesn't have any experience!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

When IN FACT, Obama has exactly ZERO, and I repeat, ZERO days/months/years of EXECUTIVE experience.

He's been a Senator for 3 years.

He's never run a business, a town, a state, or even a local PTA.

What a joke!

Brilliant strategic move by McCain.

Posted by: GriddleJim | August 29, 2008 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Any former Hillary supporter that would now vote for McCain because of his VP choice is a blithering idiot who should have her right to vote revoked. Brains bests breasts, every time!

Posted by: EB | August 29, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

I had decamped to McCain now I'm plain embarassed.

Yes, I was disappointed when Hillary lost BUT NOT DISAPPOINTED ENOUGH TO VOTE FOR THE NEXT VACUOUS UTERUS THAT CAME ALONG!!!!!!!! What happened to the other choices?

It's been a bad day. I have quitely crawled back to the Democrat party.

Posted by: Madge | August 29, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

It is sooooooo funny to hear the Dems cry and boo hoo that Palin doesn't have any experience!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

When IN FACT, Obama has exactly ZERO, and I repeat, ZERO days/months/years of EXECUTIVE experience.

He's been a Senator for 3 years.

He's never run a business, a town, a state, or even a local PTA.

What a joke!

Brilliant strategic move by McCain.

Posted by: GriddleJim | August 29, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

feastorfamine

where is the baby's choice? where is the father's choice?

thats the fascism. you don't get that though, do you?

Posted by: Greg | August 29, 2008 3:04 PM

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Oh i get it buddy
i get where you are going with this.
Problem is that the word "CHOICE" doesnt seem to be in your vocabulary. The "choice" seems to me to be more linked with a woman and her pregnancy more than it does to a bunch of people pondering the abstract notions of life's begginings coupled with am mans arrogance to suggest his opninion should wiegh more than the womans. The "choice" you are speaking of doesnt exist for you. The "choice" in your world is already been made long before a woman was raped. Or a woman who is HIV positive or a woman for whom having a baby would mean a lifetime of suffering. Your "choice" you speak of doesnt exist. Its an oxymoron. I will refrain from labeling you the same

By the way if i had the choice. I would choose to keep a child. Get it? My choice might not be HER choice.

Posted by: feastorafamine | August 29, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Palin has executive experience that Obama doesn't have. In case you Palin bashers have forgotten, the Presidency is the Executive Branch. Obama on the other hand has nothing. He's not even qualified to be dog catcher let alone President.

Posted by: EyeDoc | August 29, 2008 3:24 PM | Report abuse

And what's with all this horse-hockey (badabing, my first Alaska reference) to executive experience and private sector experience. The Afghani on the corner or 17th and K selling umbrellas has as much private sector experience as Palin. And Executive experience as governor pales in comparison to legislative experience on national issues such as education and healthcare. Quick, republicans, grasp at those straws, your lips move but nobody's listening.

Posted by: EB | August 29, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

boo hoo hoo. poor dems lost because of big bad ralph nader. morons. try fielding a candidate with some brains and an agenda for america, not a bunch of windbags cowtailing to the same corporate gods as the republicans. oh, it might help if your candidate can carry his own state too.

Posted by: chad | August 29, 2008 3:26 PM | Report abuse

and lastly (cuz this pulpit's getting a bit dusty) if Obama has no executive experience then neither does McCain. So there!

Posted by: EB | August 29, 2008 3:28 PM | Report abuse

boo hoo hoo. poor dems lost because of big bad ralph nader. morons. try fielding a candidate with some brains and an agenda for america, not a bunch of windbags cowtailing to the same corporate gods as the republicans. oh, it might help if your candidate can carry his own state too.

Posted by: chad | August 29, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Palin is an environmental nightmare!

I was actually going to VOTE for McCain until I heard who his VP pick was. He must his head in the sand or really doesn't care about wildlife and the environment as he claims to.

Sarah Palin is completely out of touch with her own voters. She's been involved in firing scandals and twice has ignored the wishes of Alaskans and has continued to allow the criminal air assault on Alaska's magnificent wolves.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zr183lk-wQk

The Game board has hired pilots to chase these beautiful and harrassed animals to exhaustion and then shoots them. They've killed 800 wolves this year alone in order to artificially increase moose and caribou populations. She's also a lifetime member of the NRA -- oh please!

Her administration spent millions of dollars on a PR campaign to "educate" the population that killing hundreds of wolves is "good for the state!" Yea, right.

It's a crime against nature and I sincerely hope and pray that the public sees this woman for what she really is -- an environmental enemy.

Anyone who supports her needs to look into the truth more closely. Get educated on this boiling issue in Alaska!

Finally, we don't need "beauty queens" like her.

Posted by: Barb | August 29, 2008 3:31 PM | Report abuse

@ Greg..

Again.. I was not being facetious (that means "not serious".. I would have used humorous as a definition.. but, then I would have to be defining that as well.

And it's quite obvious that you don't have a valid answer or you would have explained it. Therefore, may I suggest from now on.. unless you have a valid question or a valid answer, please do not @ me again.

Thank you for your cooperation in this matter.

Posted by: Gina | August 29, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Maybe if abortion weren't so readily available, people may be more responsible about their sexual exeriences. Maybe they would wake up and actually use some form of protection, and thereby cut down on the baby-killing and STD's that is way out of control in this country.

Posted by: horray!! | August 29, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

@ Greg..

Again.. I was not being facetious (that means "not serious".. I would have used humorous as a definition.. but, then I would have to be defining that as well.

And it's quite obvious that you don't have a valid answer or you would have explained it. Therefore, may I suggest from now on.. unless you have a valid question or a valid answer, please do not @ me again.

Thank you for your cooperation in this matter.

Posted by: Gina | August 29, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

ugh... poor wolves... but its better that wolves die than humans starve under the obama/biden ticket

Posted by: Jason | August 29, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

The Dems are truly funny. They accuse JSM of tokenism and ignore the fact that Bambi had every reason to select a woman and instead selected the head guy of the "good old boys club". Women are not stupid you know. As they say words are cheap. Who is doing the heavy carrying for the advancement of women? Is it the guy who passed over the most eligible VP because she WAS a woman? Or, is it the guy who chose a woman because she was the most simpatico candidate available?

The Dems may not like it, but that is how it has gone down. And, I am sorry to tell the Dem "good old boys club", but women are smart enough to see what really has gone down in the last three days.

Posted by: eddie | August 29, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Go figure...another member of the Republican Party selected to a VP slot (with ties to big oil). Reform means just that....reform.

How does this governor plan on reforming anything when it is clear she has the same issues as the current administration?

And she is under investigation at the moment for using her position to influence members in her own state. Sounds like the current administration to me.

Posted by: ssanford00 | August 29, 2008 3:52 PM | Report abuse

@Greg,

Pro-choice by definition means the woman has the right to choose. She can very well choose NOT to have an abortion. What you're advocating is ANTI-choice, in which even an unwilling woman will be forced to act like an incubator.

The fact of the matter is, whether or not to carry a pregnancy to term is the personal choice of every woman. The people in her life may offer their opinion but the ultimate choice is her's. It is not unheard of that a woman stuck in a marriage with a totalitarian man who refuses to let her have contraceptives (such as condoms or the pill) will secretly get abortions. That is why the way to reduce abortions is to let a woman have complete control over her body and to remind men to use contraceptives such as condoms.

And lets not forget that in the end, women are the only ones who can carry a baby. That's biology and there's no way to argue around that reality. Since women by nature are the only ones who can procreate beyond the basic genetic donation, women are the only ones who can choose whether or not they want to have a child. You can scream and howl and pass all the anti-choice laws you want, but it STILL doesn't change the fact that women WILL choose whether or not they want a child. Pro-choice laws simply allow women to choose in a way that doesn't harm their bodies.

Posted by: tky | August 29, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

In the end, keep this mind people…

A devout liberal (or progressive) cannot win the White House.

This is not - at least in this day and age - a liberal country.

Yes, Bill Clinton won because a.) he wasn’t a liberal – he lacked strong ideological beliefs...

And b.) Ross Perot took a HUGE chunk of the popular vote and cost H.W. Bush the election.

But if McCain-Palin can expose Obama for being a tax-raising, big-government liberal with strong ties to ‘60s radicals and anti-American preachers…

(Which won’t be difficult. It’s already part of his record.)

Obama cannot win. Period.

And it has nothing to do with race or experience.

He’s simply too liberal for the country.

Don’t believe me? Watch.

See who gets bounce after the conventions and who doesn’t. = )

Posted by: GriddleJim | August 29, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

In the end, keep this mind people…

A devout liberal (or progressive) cannot win the White House.

This is not - at least in this day and age - a liberal country.

Yes, Bill Clinton won because a.) he wasn’t a liberal – he lacked strong ideological beliefs...

And b.) Ross Perot took a HUGE chunk of the popular vote and cost H.W. Bush the election.

But if McCain-Palin can expose Obama for being a tax-raising, big-government liberal with strong ties to ‘60s radicals and anti-American preachers…

(Which won’t be difficult. It’s already part of his record.)

Obama cannot win. Period.

And it has nothing to do with race or experience.

He’s simply too liberal for the country.

Don’t believe me? Watch.

See who gets bounce after the conventions and who doesn’t. = )

Posted by: GriddleJim | August 29, 2008 4:03 PM | Report abuse

@Greg,

Since you so obviously place all the blame on the woman, then you should also agree that women should be the only ones who have the final say in whether or not to have an abortion.

Men can disappear after the act (and some do). Rapists will never admit to their crimes. And incest often do not come to light. Women however, are stuck with all the consequences. And in the past, before there were medical breakthroughs, women were the only ones who died in childbirth. (ever heard of a man who's died in childbirth?)

Before you start flogging the women who choose to have an abortion, ask yourself this, if these women are carrying so much of the blame, then why should they have less of the right to choose what concerns ultimately only them?

Until you can carry, biologically, the same burden that women do, you have no right to dictate what women should do with their bodies. yea you have a wife and you have an unexpected child. So friggin what? You think the fact that you've had a child unexpectedly somehow gives you the moral standing to criticize pro-choice people? Lemme tell you. You're not exactly the only person on earth who has had an unexpected child.Tons of women have chosen to have a child even in circumstances where their boyfriends have already dumped them and moved on. That is their choice and more power to them. A small number of women, for whatever reason, decide that they cannot have a child and that is their choice. Not yours. Is it possible for you to get raped and as a consequence, become pregnant? if the answer is no, you should shut up and go away. Is it possible for you to become pregnant with a child that has no hope of ever surviving? (such as a fetus where the brain never develops.) Would you force a woman to carry to term what essentially is a mass of non-sentient tissue?

@horray
Abortion is not "readily available". It is strictly regulated in every state and in some states, the right to abortion is constantly getting attacked. Because abortion is NOT readily available, women often have to travel to other states to get abortions. And if that is impossible, then they'll attempt dangerous back alley abortions, often at the cost of their life.

Posted by: tky | August 29, 2008 4:13 PM | Report abuse

In the end, keep this mind people…

A devout liberal (or progressive) cannot win the White House.

This is not - at least in this day and age - a liberal country.

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WRONG. Opinion isnt fact...
FACT- The Democratic Party is currently the nation's largest party. In 2004, roughly 72 million (42.6 percent) Americans were registered Democrats, compared to 55 million (32.5 percent) Republicans and 42 million (24.8 percent) independents. These numbers fail to reflect an even greater devide after 8 years of failed conservative rule.
Your premise that Obama could "never" get elected is not only flawed in its premise but flat out wrong when the results are in. Obama is ahead in every poll in every battleground state with the exception of Florida and perhaps Missouri. Outside of that you are looking at an 80 electoral vote thumping.

Posted by: feastorafamine | August 29, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Interesting pick. I wonder if Romney and Co. will storm the convention and fight for the nomination? McCain is as delusional as he appears - Palin is NOT Hilary Clinton and it's an insult to pander to women for their vote. As she is vetted the next few days she will show her inexperience and breakdown in the national spotlight. A congresswomen is NM sighted one her experiences as being a PTA chairwomen. LOL!! It's time for this country to implement intelligence tests, if people in this country want to deport "others" let's start with the ignorant!!

Posted by: WOW | August 29, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Boy, the Dems sure are bugged by McCain's pick. LOL! Good! We will win again in November. Obama's change is nothing more than higher taxes. Americans aren't that stupid. I predict that McCain will win 64%-36%. And, how come Obama only says that he is African-American? He's half white...oh, that's right, he's using his black half to pander to the country's black population. Again, we're not that stupid! Adios Obama!

Posted by: Sue | August 29, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

With this pick of inexperience and extreme right wing positions on social issues McCain has shown that the county first signs at his rallies refer to Nashville music and not the good of the United States. He definitely wins the pander of the week award.

Posted by: ejgallagher1 | August 29, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Sue Wrote;

"I predict that McCain will win 64%-36%."

When in history has there EVER been a landslide victory like that....c'mon, get real.

You're all still ignoring that Obama & Biden are STILL ahead in polls. How's that fit into you're crystal ball?

Posted by: Andrew | August 29, 2008 4:57 PM | Report abuse

The real problem is the fact that Obama has so little expeerience, so few real accomplishments and, most importantly, has no moral compass or principles. America can't afford that risk (at the top of the ticket); McCain is a hero and has the experience and Palin has the smarts and the spunk to fight the good fight for America.

Posted by: SlowBurn | August 29, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

I don't like the Obama/Biden ticket and was very ambivalent about John McCain. I love his pic for VP. A true outsider. McCain/Palin have my vote

Posted by: Pa Resident | August 29, 2008 5:08 PM | Report abuse

An excellent choice by John Mc Cain. Once again John shows that he has the guts. Initially I was skeptical about his pick for V.P. I thought this was simply a "token" female to gain votes, but after researching Palin's background I consider this a brilliant move. Palin's politics are down to earth and conservative. Palin has executive experience, an 80% approval rate in her home state, and lives in the real world with a husband and kids and real jobs.
The Republican party could never win this election with a man who has her same stand on the issues. Good pick John I was worried for awhile.

Posted by: me | August 29, 2008 6:09 PM | Report abuse

Wow! Who would have thought it? A kick butt, reforming republican woman? McCain is an honest man. He said earlier this week that the most important thing in choosing a V.P. was that it be someone he could get along with and who shared his philosophies. He did just that didn't he? I was on the fence 6 mo. ago but the more I hear from McCain's mouth the more I like him. McCain needs to ditch those TV commercials against Obama and beat the Democrats over the head with the facts---his own record, his plans & how he will do this, & most of all the truth. This is going to be an exciting race. WOW!

Posted by: moodygirl995 | August 29, 2008 6:12 PM | Report abuse

I'm with Gary at 12:40...

Posted by: Doug Dennison | August 29, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Sarah who? Does McCain really think that women are going to vote for him now that he has chosen a female vp? Women aren't that stupid or gullible anymore.

Posted by: Regena | August 29, 2008 7:35 PM | Report abuse

I have voted a democrat ticket since 1982 but with Obama's nomimantion and the people who he associates with, Reverend Wright, Rezkco and Ayers I needed to rethink automatically voting for a democratic just because they had the parties nomination. I never cared much for Hillary Clinton either and don't care much for some of the policies that are promoted by the current party leadership but would have voted for her if she had won. The way she has been treated by her party has been horrible. The nominations she received should have been recognized. And as much as I don't like everything about the Democratic policies I also don't like everything about the Republican policies either, including their lock step pro life stance. I don't think anyone should have the the right to tell another person how they should or shouldn't live their life, whether it's joining a union or any other personal choice. In this case I will be voting for McCain and Palin, not because they are perfect, not because they represent everything I believe but because they are the best of the choices available. And getting past all of the ugly from both the campaigns and the posts about the campaigns I would think most people will look at the issues and vote for what represents the best of the choices available for them on a personal level.

Posted by: California Resident | August 29, 2008 8:34 PM | Report abuse

How can McCain have any credibility right now? Is he serious? all this time he has been slamming Obama for his lack of experience and he picks Palin, when he is 72? and not a healthy 72. If she has enough experience then so should Obama, right? And please don't forget that she is the govenor of a population of maybe 8,000 people. . . . and what about her ethics drama with trying to get her brother-in-law fired? isn't she being investigated?
The lack of experience is not my issue, its the fact that McCain has been so against some one of little experience running this country. wouldn't it have been more prudent for him to chose someone who HE believes could take care of this country in the event of his death or disability?? Isn't this a sign of his lack of judgment?


Posted by: sunshine | August 29, 2008 9:11 PM | Report abuse

I have to say this is a smart political move on McCain's behalf. I also have to disagree about some of the leftist's remarks on here critisizing Palin on her lack of experience. Maybe it's just that lack of experience, her informality with the lobbyist, and the ability to stand against those even in the GOP machine that this country needs. We don't need another president with a nice smile and a political machine backing to pay off the press to publish as many convincing photos of a competent lawmaker who, in reality, has done nothing in his own state to warrant such an honorable title. Even if she has little experience, at least she has tried to be exemplory in her political life in trying to bring down the corrupt politicians in her own party.

Posted by: Rachael | August 29, 2008 10:28 PM | Report abuse

One thing that I see here is factual corruption of Republicans in Alaska and the question that lingers in my mind relates to lack of ability of federally elected republicans to stamp out corruption that they knew of. So in effect Palin is more effective as a governor in Alaska than she would be if elected federally.

Posted by: Tesa | August 29, 2008 10:35 PM | Report abuse

To everyone comparing Obama and Palin’s experience: Does Palin have the endorsements of former Presidents and Vice Presidents such as Bill Clinton and Al Gore? Did Palin win millions of Americans Votes in the Primaries? Americans who believe she is capable of leading this nation? NO, NO, NO
The only person who believes she is capable of being VP is John McCain, who has spent the majority of his career in the senate voting WITH BUSH and running FAILED PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGNS!!! PALIN IS AN ACT OF DESPERATION! SIMPLE AND PLAIN

Posted by: SMARTEN UP | August 29, 2008 11:00 PM | Report abuse

Its odd about the Presidency. The most unlikely candidate when elevated to be President of the United States can rise above themselves and do an excellent job. The hard part is the choosing. No one really knows what makes a good President. Oh I Know, they all say they do by comparing past good Presidents with who they were before becoming President. But when it comes right down to it Obama, Palin, McCain could all potentially be the best and we just wont know it until they are. On the other hand I kknow the issues I favor and on them will I make final choice. The only thing negative I can say is that McCain has indicated that somehow experience determines who makes a good Commander in Chief (tell that to Lincoln). And everybody thinks the primary reason to choose a Vice President is for their ability to assume the office of President. I cant believe that McCain thinks Palin is any more capable than Obama in that regard. So what has motivated McCain to pick Palin? I suppose if he's elected he could always ask her to resign and replace her with someone who has more experience like President Bush or Vice President Cheney even.

Posted by: Andy | August 30, 2008 12:44 AM | Report abuse

HOT OFF THE PRESS....McBush 3rd term MAVERICK, LIAR, OR TRAITOR.....

MCBUSH DOESN'T WANT YOU TOO SEE THESE...

TRANSCRIPTS from John McCain’s Vietnam Propaganda Interviews
Posted by Kevin on August 10 2008


I’m curious to know why John McCain felt it was okay to talk to the North Vietnamese, whom the United States was actively engaged in war, but not the Iranians who we are not currently at war with.

Don’t know what I’m talking about? Read these transcripts of propaganda John McCain made for the Communists while he was a Prisoner of War. The first interviews were done on November 9th, 1967. John McCain was shot down just 14 days earlier on October 26th.

Parts of the declassified translations remain blacked out, suggesting John McCain divulged sensitive information to the Communists that, 40 years later, the US Government still doesn’t want us to know about.

Cuban Radio 11/9/1967:

“There is not any doubt for me; things are taking place in a favorable way for North Vietnam. In particular, before world opinion at present, the United States is (? virtually ?) standing alone.”

“My assignment to the Oriskany, I told myself, was due to serious losses in pilots which were sustained by this aircraft carrier due to its raids over North Vietnam territory –VNA) and which necessitated replacements. From 10 to 12 pilots were transferred like me from the Forrestal to the Oriskany. Before I was shot down we had made several sorties. Altogether I made about 23 flights over North Vietnam.”

[About the mission he was captured on:] “The briefing was held in the morning. That’s right. I remember that it was in the morning that they told me the situation and the plan of the raid, which should take place about noon. A reconnaissance officer explained this plan to me. They showed me photographs of my target and marked out the paths to be followed by the Oriskany at this point. They pointed out to me a number of antiaircraft positions near Hanoi and a number of possible rocket positions, the position of our rescue ships, the radio frequency, the composition of the flight, and so forth. Upon arrival near the target, our formation order: I would be number three, and the chief of the formation, number one. Each pilot would have to approach the target from a different direction. The choice of which would be left to [unclear].

“While moving toward the target, we stumbled over a very dense network of fire, a very powerful riposte. A few rockets were seen. Our chief turned to approach the target and I followed him at a distance. At the time when I was preparing to drop my bombs — I did not know whether I could drop them because things were happening too fast — I heard a terrible explosion which shook my plane and sent it toward the group. It was hit so violently that I was thrown on my back and went straight toward the ground in this posture. I tried to pull the direction-stick ??? …

??? … Naturally I felt buffetting because my bailing out was made at the time when the plane was falling too fast. When the parachute opened I looked down and found out that I was going to fall into a lake. I was really lucky to be able to fall into a lake. All around me bombs were exploding while rockets and antiaircraft shells were streaking through the sky. I hit the lake and went to the bottom. While trying to return to the surface, I was seized by Vietnamese and pushed to the bank of the lake. They disarmed me and brought me to prison.”

(What do you think of Hanoi’s Fire Barrage?)

“Very intense, very accurate. When a fire barrage is so accurate, one has to reckon with it. You are excellent artillerymen. Naturally, I have never seen such a fire network because it was the first time that I flew over Hanoi.”

(Were all the pilots who had flown over Hanoi afraid of the Firepower from the ground?)

“Yes, Certainly! How lucky are those who do not have to come often to the Hanoi sector. Very dangerous! Because they could very well be shot down, hit, something that no one wants! When I arrived near my target I saw two rockets streaking by my side, and it was terrible to see. They flew very fast, very strongly.

“For me, there is no longer any doubt. Things are taking place in a favorable opinion. The United States at present seems to be standing alone, so much is its isolation.”

I wish I could say that was it. I don’t like John McCain, but as a veteran it sickens me nevertheless just to read propaganda that a member of the United States Armed Forces gave to the enemy.

French Reporter Francois Chalais, January 1968

My meeting with John Sidney McCain was certainly one of those meetings which will affect me most profoundly for the rest of my life. I had asked the North Vietnamese authorities to allow me to personally interrogate an American prisoner. They authorized me to do so. When night fell, they took me — without precautions or mystery — to a hospital near the Gia Lam Airport reserved for the military. (Passage Omitted) …

… John Sidney McCain McCain is nott an ordinary prisoner. Hhis father is none other than Admiral Edmond John McCain, Commander in Chief of U.S. Naval Forces in Europe (Passage Omitted)

In a weak voice, he relates his story to me: I was carrying out a bombing mission, my twenty-third raid, over Hanoi. It was then that I was hit. I wanted to eject but while doing so I broke both my arms and my right thigh. Unconscious, I fell in a lake, some Vietnamese jumped into the water and pulled me out. Later I learned there must have been about twelve of them. They immediately took me to the hospital, in a condition two inches away from death. A doctor operated on my thigh. Others at the same time dealt with my arms.

(How are you treated here?)

Very well. Everybody is very nice to me.

(How is the food?)

This isn’t Paris, but it is alright.

(Do you have something to read?)

They have suggested that I read, but my hands are unable to hold even a newspaper.

I’d like to punch that French journalist in the throat.

This next bit of propaganda from John McCain needs a bit a background. On May 19th, 1969, Secretary of Defense Melvin Laird demanded the North Vietnamese treat POWs according to humanitarian standards established in the Geneva Conventions. Senator McCain will be the first to tell you that wasn’t the case… although that wasn’t what he said in an interview the North Vietnamese broadcast into South Vietnam…

Broadcast to South Vietnam, 2 June 1969

At his 19 rpt 19 May press conference in Washington, US Defense Secretary Melvin Laird distorted the truth about the policy of the Democratic Republic of Vietnam government towards captured U.S. pilots in North Vietnam. Those very captive airmen have long since given the lie to Laird’s allegations. Here is one of them, LCMDR John Sidney McCain, service number 624787 rpt 624787, USS Oriskany, speaking of the treatment he has been receiving.

“I was a U.S. airman engaged in the crimes against the Vietnamese country and people. I had bombed their cities, towns, and villages and caused more injury even death for the people of Vietnam. After I was captured I was taken from a hospital in (?Da Nang) where I received very good medical treatment. I was given an operation on my leg, which allowed me to walk again, and a cast for my right arm which was badly broken in three rpt three places. The doctors were very good and they knew a great deal about the practice of medicine. I remained in the hospital for some time, I regained much of my health and strength.”

Funny, this sounds exactly like the same propaganda that John Kerry gave the North Vietnamese!!! The circumstances were a little bit different, but the fact that McCain uttered the words is disgusting. I know POWs have it hard, but there is a Code of Conduct for POWs and we were expected to conduct themselves according to that code if we were captured. This is a HUGE deal. He didn’t slip up once, he did it repeatedly through his stay in Hanoi.

Including the final declassified document from the Department of Defense…

Dr. Fernando Barral for Cuban media, January 24, 1970

The pilot interviewed is John Sidney McCain, son and grandson of American Navy Admirals. His father, as the Yankee prisoner declared, is higher ranking than General Abrams, who commands the Yankee aggressor troops in South Vietnam; despite this, Johnson gave orders directly to Abrams, passing over McCain’s father, who has a long history of services of aggression in Korea, among other imperialist merits. As is seen, Lt Commander John Sidney has a very good name….

Following are the notes from Dr. Barral’s interview with the Yankee Pilot:

(Could you tell me your name, serial number, and rank?)

“My name is John Sidney McCain and I am a lieutenant commander in the U.S. Navy — serial No 624787. I understand and speak some Spanish. I studied it in school and I have been in Spain several times. On one of those occasions I visited the Navy Academy and met Prince Carlos….”

In the course of the interview, on various occasions he showed that knowledge of the language, saying some words, dates, and so forth in Spanish, or (using it) when he thought the interpreter was seeking the corresponding French word.

Naturally, from the very beginning this established a more direct communication between us, and more than one question or my response was made directly in Spanish.

(Immediately afterward, I asked him about the date and circumstances of his capture.)

“On 26 October 1967 I was overflying Hanoi in an A4E plane based on the carrier Oriskany when my plane was hit by a ground-to-air missile. I bailed out, colliding in the air with the remains of the plane, and I landed in one of the lakes in the center of Hanoi, in the middle of the water. On landing I tried to get free of my parachute, but could not move, and did not realize why I could not move my arms or legs, but it was because of the injuries.”

(Injuries?)

“Yes, as a result of colliding with the remains of the plane, I fractured my right leg at the knee, and both arms, the right one in three places. Moreover, I dislocated both shoulders.”

(What happened next? That is, what was the capture itself like?)

“Well, many people gathered around since it was the center of Hanoi and at midday.”

(Soldiers, militiamen, or civilians?)

“I could not determine exactly, because they had removed their clothing in order to take me out of the water.”

(Well, go on.)

“From there, they took me to a military hospital in Hanoi, a large hospital where they operated on me and attended to the multiple fractures. I understand I received more than a liter of blood….”

(Were you the object of any physical or moral violence?)

“No, although at the time of capture I could sense the people’s hate or indignation, there were no insults or violence of any type. On the contrary, you have seen how I am recovering from my injuries.”

(But were you not afraid of being the object of violent treatment if you were captured…?)

“Actually, I never thought I would become a prisoner; therefore those fears never came up.”

(Did you never think of the possibility of being captured?)

“No. I was traveling at high altitude. I felt completely safe in the plane.. I am considered one of the best pilots….”

(?? What made you join the U.S. Navy? [difficult to read])

“[There was a] family reason since I have many relatives in that branch of service. In particular, my grandfather was [difficult to read] -nding in World War II; he was one of those who [saw] the Japanese sign the act of surrender, and a Naval destroyer bears his name. And my father is also an Admiral; he is Chief of the Pacific Command of the U.S. Armed Forces. Actually, it is a matter of military tradition. Once of my forebears was a colonel in Washington’s independence forces. Another was a general in the war of secession. Thus it was natural for me to follow a military career. Of course my father was not always an admiral; during World War II he was a commander of a submarine. He has been in the Navy since 1927 and has been an admiral since 1965. He holds the highest rank in the Navy. If I had not been downed, I would have become an Admiral at an earlier age than my father. Theoretically, General Abrams is his subordinate….”

(Theoretically?)

“Yes, although in practice, because of the importance of this war, Gen. Creighton Abrams receives his orders directly from Washington.”

(I do not understand this about “in theory and in practice.” I thought that in military life everything is standardized in an inflexible manner….)

“Well, look, in fact Abrams is his subordinate but since the Tet offensive of 1968 in view of the gravity of the situation, Abrams instead of asking for instructions from my father, who is in Honolulu, so that he in turn would ask for them from Washington, went directly to Washington for them because the war is here in Vietnam and my father also has Okinawa, Korea, and so forth under his command. That is why, since the war is so important, he receives his instructions directly from Washington. It is a political problem also, not only military.”

(Well, let us leave these things about political and military aside. They are too complex. At any rate I do not believe that your father likes the situation very much; that his subordinates receive orders directly from above.)

“Look, my father is a very intelligent person, but… when the bombings of the north began, Johnson asked Abrams’ opinion, not my father’s because Abrams [is] in Saigon, in the war….”

“Now I am going to speak about my wife,” he says spontaneously, “she is not in the armed forces,” he added with a certain humor. “I saw her the last time in August of 1967. At that time I was on the aircraft carrier Forrestal when I fire broke out wich damaged it heavily and it had to be sent for repairs to the United States. At that time I miraculously escaped with my life because I was in my airplane and the two pilots on my left and the two on my right were killed.”

(How did that happen?)

“A plane caught fire and one of its rockets went off. This in turn caused other explosions. There were 135 deaths, almost all the airplanes were destroyed and the ship was seriously damaged. As a result of the fire I became famous on TV.”

(As one who miraculously escaped death, no?)

“Yes, but in addition I was able to see my family and stay there nearly a month. I then returned this time to the aircraft carrier Oriskany and 1 month later I was shot down.”

(You said that you were going to talk to me about your wife bout you continue on the subject of the war….)

… “She is very pretty. Before marrying me she was a model for magazines and on TV. We have a 3-year-old girl. When I saw her she was still a baby. She also has two children from a former marriage. She now returned to work as a model on TV.”

(How did you find out?)

“I had a letter from her after I became a prisoner.”

(??)

“Yes they authorized me to recieve a letter and presents on Christmas Eve and I was able to send greeting cards.”

(Would you like me to relay a message for you?)

“If you would be so kind. Tell her I am well, that I wish her happiness, and not to worry about me.”

(The address!)

“Her namy is Carol McCain, Mrs. Carol McCain. She lives in….”

[McCain has to write her address with his left hand because the Spanish speaking interviewer can't understand... 553 Patio Lane, Orange Park, Florida, USA]

(What schooling did you have?)

I went to the Naval Academy. I took two university majors, electrical engineering and naval architecture. The courses were very difficult; 1,200 of us began and only 400 graduated. Discipline was very strict also. I was also in the Spanish Naval Academy. It was there that I met Prince Carlos, as I said before. When I finished I had two choices; to be a naval officer or a pilot.. I chose to be a pilot. I had to study another year and a half and I graduated in 1958. I trained intensively. I flew many hours in training to become a jet pilot.”

(Many?)

“Yes, 4,000. They really demand 200 but I flew 4,000 hours.”

(??)

“I wanted to become a test pilot. It is fascinating to test new models.”

(At any rate the difference between 200 and 4,000 appears to be great.)

“Well, look, it was because I wanted to be an astronaut. That is why I also engage in a great deal of sports: boxing wrestling, swimming, camping, and so forth.”

(And what happened?)

“I had to come to Vietnam.”

(What is your religion?)

“I am a Protestant.”

(Being in captivity, has your faith increased? Do you have hopes for the future?)

“My beliefs have always been more or less the same intensity. As long as the war lasts I do not have much hope for the future.”

A photograph from this interview.

You know, this is really frustrating to me because of all the information he gave away. Training requirements, his training experience, the exact model aircraft he was flying, giving new talking points to the Communists about his father being passed over, and while I doubt this is the entire transcript of the interview (McCain supposedly drank 3 cups of coffee… this is a 1 cup conversation), gave detailed information on damage and casualties in a military accident, and so much more that it’s inexcusable that he gave away that much information.

He’s even bluntly honest about the reason why he liked his wife (she was a model before the crippling car accident, prompting him to seek out an extramarital affair with Cindy).

Look, I understand that the pressures of being a POW in Vietnam are ungodly. But there is a Code of Conduct for a reason and this is specifically it. If you’re going to divulge information, it better come after years of torture so it’s no longer relevant and John McCain couldn’t even last 2 weeks.

It’s no wonder McCain was so quiet when those British sailors got picked up by the Iranians and they made propaganda films for Iran. Because he did the exact same thing.

No, I was never a POW, thank GOD! But the reason I’m so livid about this is because had I been in this situation, I and every single other person who has served or is serving now is expected to live up to the standards established by the Code of Conduct and John McCain, the man our party has nominated to be the President of the United States, FAILED MISERABLY.

When recruits go through Basic Training, they should be required to read and memorize these documents because this is the perfect example of what NOT to do if you’re ever taken prisoner.

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And you REBUSHAGAINS WOULD hail this TRAITOR Commandder and Chief...You RELIABLES are the biggest FOOLS indeed..

Posted by: need4trth | August 30, 2008 1:43 AM | Report abuse

She has more executive experience than Obama has. oh wait he has none.

Posted by: seah | August 30, 2008 2:12 AM | Report abuse

The first thing that no one has broght up is yes this is a woman, but women are VERY catty. Let's not forget what Hilary went through with the women vote for a very long time before she got their acceptance. Year's and year's of women not feeling they can relate to her. I know conservative gun toting women who sit around and drink coors will love her but the soccer moms of Texas surely are not hockey moms of Alaska.

Posted by: rstar2 | August 30, 2008 9:46 AM | Report abuse

Ok, once and for all, put an END to arguments for experience. I'm not challenging the fact that Obama has little experience. I'm not challenging the fact that Palin has little experience. But in the end, experience is just ONE piece of evidence that illuminates how well a person can perform in office. It is not the only thing. People that support Obama and support change do not consider experience as their number one factor of choice in either candidate. How can you criticize a 46 year old and a 44 year old for having little experience? Are we all going to pick the oldest person in the world? Certainly THAT person will have the most experience. Really, this argument is getting ridiculous.

Reduce the comparison to other fundamentals besides experience. While experience is a large indication of how a person will perform in office, it is not the only indication. Among a FEW others are energy, intelligence, thoroughness, savvy-ness, etc. Obama went to Harvard Law School and Columbia University; he is an energetic individual, smart as a tack, and despite his, sure, "little" experience, has the potential to become one of the greatest and most inspiring leaders this world has ever seen. His promises, as people say, are merely promises; but what if they are actually delivered upon? What if he CAN do all that he says? I feel that his intelligence and his commitment to bringing the change he so desperately desires for this country, that this country itself is so thirsty for, is enough to prove this point. Palin, on the other hand, is not nearly as intelligent; not nearly as dynamic; cannot stir magic in those that she leads; cannot inspire a country to develop renewable energy sources, live fairly and equitably, be global citizens; and if she can, she cannot do it AS well. Think I'm comparing apples to oranges? Fine, Joe Biden beats Palin on all these grounds, including experience, for those that hinge everything upon that overused measure of an individual's caliber.

In the end, everyone in this forum, it is ridiculous to quarrel about small matters such as "Oh, Palin was Ms. Alaska no. 2" or "Obama is a 'comm. organizer'" When considering the overall caliber of the candidates themselves, the choice is simple. Vote Obama/Biden in november.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 30, 2008 12:03 PM | Report abuse

The more you blather on about Palin's lack of experience the more you make the argument that Obama has NO executive experience. I'll grant you he's a good looking, well spoken guy with an attractive family. He offers up nothing else positive. Unless of course you are chomping at the bit to bite all the hands that feed everything great about this county.

Posted by: Carole | August 30, 2008 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Biden/Palin '08!

Posted by: Ricky | August 30, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin has had executive experience as governor, has fought corruption in her own political party and has stood up to Big Oil while trying to promote independence from foreign oil and natural gas. Can Obama or Biden match that record?

Posted by: Graniteman | August 30, 2008 7:25 PM | Report abuse

How could anyone vote for mccain? Have you seen the CNN documentary on him?? something like MCCAIN REVEALED?

He is a war man that flip flopped his way to the top and cheated on his wife because she gained weight then started an affair with his now wife because she was richer and more beautiful. and danced wih the idea of switching parties to get ahead. He even toyed with the idea of being a running mate for KERRY!!!! WAKE UP AMERICA!!!! forget Palin. Mccain is the one that shouldn't be trusted. I WAS A REPUBLICAN, BUT I WOULD NEVER VOTE FOR MCCAIN EVER! HE IS USING PALIN AND YOU ALL ARE FALLING FOR IT!

how can you trust his judgment and ethics? how can you believe in him?

Posted by: Sunshine | August 30, 2008 9:45 PM | Report abuse

I love these articles, but I don't think the 1st Amendment should really cover all the crap normal Americans get write after them.

Comment-less Media, Please!

Posted by: Ryan K. | August 30, 2008 11:23 PM | Report abuse

I love these articles, but I don't think the 1st Amendment should really cover all the crap normal Americans get to write after them.

Comment-less Media, Please!

Posted by: Ryan K. | August 30, 2008 11:25 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin's nomination is like a fresh, new, cool breeze with the chance for cleansing rain. Good choice!

Can't stand Hilly OR Billy, and I'm from his state. Didn't want either Presidential candidate, but Obama would be a disaster. Would have voted for Ron Paul, but now I'll go for McCain/Palin.

If you think women don't like Palin's values, think again: I'm a woman; pro-life, not pro-murder; don't hunt, but do have a concealed-carry permit for self-defense!

Posted by: Carolyn | August 30, 2008 11:45 PM | Report abuse

Obama, made a major political mistake on not getting Hillary and bringing the whole party together, period!

McCain helped his campaign by picking another maverick and female who can stand up to anyone. Palin has as much experience as Obama on top of his ticket. Palin is a new inspiring pick the republicans need. She has 80 percent approval in Alaska and is the most popular Governor in America. She taxed oil companies and gave it all back to Alaska's taxpayers at $1,200 each.

Obama is a smart inspiring speaker, but Palin's actions speak louder than political words. She has fought corruption in both parties in Alaska. When she speaks she says it like it is, unlike polished career politicians. Some people can talk the talk, but Palin can walk the walk. Anyone with doubts about Palin should watch her interview with Maria Bartiromo on CNBC.

People are talking negatively about Palin without knowing all the facts about what she has achieved, including the media because they are in love with Obama. The media is saying McCain picked Palin because of Hillary not being picked and I love Hillary, but Sarah is the real deal for republicans and she gives them a new face that they need to reform their party. The Republican Party has always been for the rich and special interests, Sarah represents “we the people” and is against government waste and the good old boy network, this is just what republicans need to fix their image and direction.

Now the race is exciting and change is coming to both parties! History will be made period with either Obama or McCain!

Posted by: abel | August 31, 2008 1:28 AM | Report abuse

It's interesting that liberals are bending over to backwards to appreciate a biracial candidate who has written two self-serving autobiographies to launch his political career and who is tied to the Daley political machine and a convicted felon. On the other hand, Obama supporters are already making sexist remarks about Gov. Palin having been a beauty queen, just as the Obama-ites were willing to make sexist remarks about Hillary Clinton. In fact, Gov. Palin is a bright, articulate and tough woman who already has more executive experience than either Obama or Biden. She has fought corruption in her own party and state government. She had stood up to Big Oil and has stood by the victims of the Exxon Valdez oil spill. Don't underestimate Gov. Palin, my liberal friends from DuPont Circle and Hollywood, or you might be surprised in November.

Posted by: Graniteman | August 31, 2008 9:07 AM | Report abuse

Obama and Biden are two classic machine politicians, while McCain and Palin have both made their reputations by opposing the machine politicians in their own party. So tell me again, who is it who is supposed to be for change?

Posted by: J Baustian | August 31, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

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This is going to be fun. History will be made, one way or another, and it looks more likely now that it will be the right history.

Even more Hillary supporters will go for McCain now. Obama is no longer a near certainty. Heaven forbid something happens to McCain, but I believe Palin would rise to the occasion. She has the right attitude. Everyone knows Obama is NOT ready for POTUS, Palin is only for the VP. Look at Dan Quayle.

YEY SARAH PALIN! YEY John McCain! Great pick! The 1st woman for the GOP VP? SCORE!

She's conservative! SCORE! She's a Governor! SCORE! She's pro-drilling! She's a hunter! SCORE! She's a hockey Mom and played basketball in school! SCORE! She's pro-life! And she respects women! SCORE! She fights corruption! SCORE! She's high-energy! SCORE! She's tough! SCORE! She's got 5 kids! SCORE! Her son is going to Iraq in the Armed Forces! SCORE! She's married to a Blue-collar professional! SCORE! She's smart! SCORE! She's young! SCORE!

And she's a Hotty to boot! SCORE! The Left is going to go nuts! SCORE!
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Posted by: USpace | September 1, 2008 1:18 AM | Report abuse

Obamites are a sexist bunch of bullies, your posts are bullying and lack any intellectual honesty. Why would participating in a pageant disqualify her for the VP spot? Why is her experience less than Obama's, when they are virtually the same in terms of time in office. Executive experience should trump legislative experience seeing how she is running for a position in the executive branch. McCain Palin is a balanced ticket experience and legislative experience with McCain, not to mention military service. Palin brings executive experience as a governor and a mayor, direct dealings with the oil companies in Alaska where they dominate the economy, and the diverse perspective of being a woman and a small business owner.

What do we get with Obama/Biden 32 years in the Senate, no business experience, no executive experience, and no military experience. I cant wait for Obama to call Palin "sweetie"

Posted by: eric B | September 1, 2008 8:32 AM | Report abuse

Get the facts straight on Palin and the "Bridge to Nowhere."

She supported it, she campaigned on it as an issue. And she only "turned against it" after Congress had already pulled the plug on it. What's more, SHE KEPT THE MONEY.

And about Stevens: their relationship is much, much cozier. As recently as July 2008, she was hugging him, praising him and declaring that he was an important voice in American politics. And in all likelihood, she will ENDORSE him for his re-election bid (even though he's indicted).

Reformer? I think not.

Posted by: jo | September 1, 2008 9:10 AM | Report abuse

I can't believe he chose Palin only because no one ever talked about her as a choice. She is beautiful, she wants to overturn Roe v. Wade, she wants to use our natural resources in Alaska to bring oil prices down instead of cowing to the Middle East, and best of all she likes mooseburgers and advocates responsible gun ownership and the freedom and right to bear arms. I guess this would upset some of you environmentalist tree huggers that have no comprehension of how big Alaska really is and how much will remain pristine. I only wish she was running for President and McCain was the VP nomination.

Posted by: Ron Taylor | September 2, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

People dont get it... I dont care about the kids judgment she 17!

It McCains and this Bumpkin pardon my french whos judgment that is in question. Really good idea?... Not unless your thinking about using this 17 year old for some votes which is even worse.. Because everybody knew this was coming out and more... So look why your taking sides and why because this is all part of the script... Its about manipulating the Pro-Life vote... you all should be proud... Keep church, a womans right to choose, and 17 year old girls out of politics... Which also means keep MCCAIN out of the white house

Posted by: eric | September 2, 2008 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Real Reason McCain chose Palin : Sexist and condescending

PROOF

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apdFC-vh6Ng

Posted by: Sara | September 3, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

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