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House Republicans Propose Alternative Budget

By Perry Bacon Jr.

House Republicans today outlined how they would write the federal budget if they controlled Congress, looking to rebut criticism from President Obama that the GOP is simply complaining about his blueprint but not offering proposals of its own.

Republican lawmakers refused to offer details of how much their alternative budget proposal would cost or how much it would increase the deficit, saying they would release overall numbers next week. Instead, they provided a general outline of proposals that included cutting overall government spending except for defense, banning any additional spending for bailouts of financial companies and a huge income tax cut that would make the maximum tax rate 25% instead of 36% as under current law.

"Two nights ago, the president said we haven't seen a budget yet of the Republicans," said House Minority Leader Rep. John Boehner (R-Ohio). "Well, it's not true, because here it is Mr. President." He waved a thin document called "The Republican Road to Recovery" that describes the GOP proposal.

Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), the top Republican on the House Budget Committee, said "while we criticize, we propose."

Democrats, in response, seized on the fact that the GOP plan lacked specific cost estimates. "After 27 days, the best House Republicans could come up with is a 19-page pamphlet that does not include a single real budget proposal or estimate," said DNC National Press Secretary Hari Sevugan.. There are more numbers in my last sentence than there are in the entire House GOP 'budget.'

Senate Republicans have decided not to release an alternative budget, but will offer a series of amendments next week to try to reduce the spending under the Democratic budget proposals. House rules allow Democrats to limit the number of amendments offered, so Republicans there will offer only their complete budget alternative.

"Our economic plan amounts to less government, lower taxes and economic prosperity," the GOP document says.

The proposal continues Republicans' push for lower spending and greater tax cuts in response to Obama's budget proposal, which costs about $3.6 trillion and would increase the deficit by $1.38 trillion next year.

By Paul Volpe  |  March 26, 2009; 1:56 PM ET
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Republican lawmakers refused to offer details of how much their alternative budget proposal would cost or how much it would increase the deficit, saying they would release overall numbers next week. --- Nuf said.

Posted by: greenmountainboy | March 26, 2009 2:14 PM | Report abuse

More TAX cuts? How did that work out for the last 8 years? Less Government, oh, yea that's right no more monitoring our financial markets nor our food supply. No new ideas, just old rehashed, recycled, repeats that didn't work then and won't work now. What a bunch of jerks!

Posted by: Taylorsucram | March 26, 2009 2:22 PM | Report abuse

A-holes! And people wonder why we need capital punishment in this country. Send the entire gop to the chair and be done with them.

Posted by: dem4life1 | March 26, 2009 2:33 PM | Report abuse

You got to love these guys. Their new found committment to fiscal conservatism, notably absent for the last eight years, hasn't yet fully developed to offer details. So the President offers a 1000 page document full of vision and details for everyone to disect and take shots at, while the Republicans proudly tout a tri-fold pamphlet as their option. Did John McCain write it? Or Phil Gramm?

Posted by: Politicus08 | March 26, 2009 2:36 PM | Report abuse

"Budget" is a document with real numbers on them....

Why are the journalists call this pamplet a "budget"? Make them work and proposed some alternatives throughts. That will prove their commitment to the country.

Make them finally allocate money for Iraq. They refused to do that for six years. Don't let them get away with false information....

Posted by: SeedofChange | March 26, 2009 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Gee sounds like the GOP is up to the same old game...more tax cuts...but don't pay for them...We all know how well that has worked...They need to just label it Bush plan III so nobody gets confused....

Posted by: redrockraven | March 26, 2009 2:49 PM | Report abuse

"refused to offer details of how much their alternative budget proposal would cost or how much it would increase the deficit". Doesn't sound like a budget to me? And they whipped it up in 2 days? Probably well thought out too. Sounds more like a PR stunt and the WaPo fell for it. The Headline should read, " Republicans hold up empty folder and say that they have a budget too!"

Posted by: thebobbob | March 26, 2009 2:50 PM | Report abuse

At least the republican have read it! Keep in mind it was the government who got us into this mess in the first place. Less taxes = more growth.

Posted by: noboma | March 26, 2009 2:55 PM | Report abuse

All you stupid commies want all government, all the time.

You want higher taxes? Then send a check to the US Treasury, they will cash it.

Don't point a gun at me and demand more of my money. One day I am going to get tired of having a gun pointed at my head and things demanded from me. On that day, you and your commie families better be in France or somewhere else outside of my country.

Posted by: bug45 | March 26, 2009 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Another GOP scam. A budget proposal without numbers. This sounds a lot like the GOP budgets of the past 8 years. How can anyone take these guys seriously?

Posted by: cdierd1944 | March 26, 2009 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Either these GOP idiots just don't get it or they really are vile people.
Just about every economist worth his weight agree that spending stimulates a depressed economy much better than tax cuts. However, the GOP only wants to help the rich w/ tax breaks. They are disgusting.

Posted by: Godhimself1 | March 26, 2009 3:00 PM | Report abuse

bug45:

You know sniffing glue is bad for you?

Posted by: Godhimself1 | March 26, 2009 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Do you think anyone in congress will read "The President's Vision" bill before voting on it? Remember the last stimulus bill? No one read it and it included an amendment for the AIG bonuses that no one knew existed (liars of course).

The President's Vision is put the country in debt just like the last administration you are referring to. Explain the difference?

Government needs to stop borrowing and spending period. It is no different from an individual do the same thing. Eventually the "Chickens will come home to roost" as that great minister of Obama's so eloquently stated.

It's is time for a new party. Vote Libertarian!

Peace.

Posted by: tjillmereaolcom | March 26, 2009 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Every time there is an issue in the news the media trot out an interview with Rep. John Boehner or some other Bushpublican "leader" as if his opinion might matter or his vote might make something happen. They are irrevelent and cannot effect the outcome of anything other than their own interview. Why don't you ask somebody that matters? They lost the election for a very good reason: the American people don't want their leadership. The voters don't like their policies and want to go in a different direction. There are people who have learned something about the GOP in the last twenty eight years that says that in every policy discussion that matters they are wrong. It just seems that not very many in the media have caught on yet.

Posted by: timben1 | March 26, 2009 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Go in another direction? What the hell are you talking about? It is more of the same borrow and spend. When will it stop? GOP or Democrat, no damn difference.

Posted by: tjillmereaolcom | March 26, 2009 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Tax cuts.

How did I know.

And they wonder why they got thrown out on their collective asses?

Posted by: rcubedkc | March 26, 2009 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Tax Cuts for the rich, yes. They are the only collective group that pay taxes anymore. The tax code has removed 50% of our citizenry from the tax rolls. So yes, only the rich will get a tax since they are the only ones paying taxes!

Get real people! I say give everyone a year off from Federal taxes. Instant stimulus and it will show folks exactly what is being taken from them each pay check.

Posted by: tjillmereaolcom | March 26, 2009 3:17 PM | Report abuse

More tax cuts WooHoo! They should title their report "More of the Same", or "If you liked the last 8 years, you'll love this".

Why have they NEVER had the balls to propose a balanced budget when there's been a republican president?

I fully expect recommendations to privatize federal lending programs, then completely deregulate the lending and investment industries.
Soon to follow - eliminate the EPA, and all of it's onerous/ annoying / obstructionist regulations.

Posted by: stodayxx | March 26, 2009 3:20 PM | Report abuse

I agree that non-specifics are worth little, but the Dems non-partisanship is also for the birds. Let's remember that Obama's win was like 53% to 47%, so almost half the country has not been behind. Budgets and major policy issues need to be jointly crafted.

Posted by: MylesSchulberg | March 26, 2009 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Nice to see the mindless partisans reacting as usual:

"Me hate Republicans. Republicans am bad."

How typical of the mindless posters on the WaPo.

Posted by: bobmoses | March 26, 2009 3:24 PM | Report abuse

You dems are very confused:
Gop is offering:
Tax cuts to PEOPLE THAT PAY TAXES
Don't you get it? If the govt stops robbing money from my pocket I will have more money. Instant stimulation.
When the govt robs money from my pocket to fund ACORN and stem cell research, it is an instant DRAIN to the economy.

Dems offering:
Tax rebates to people that don't pay taxes, and increasing the tax burden on the honest hard working citizens and labeling them rich.
Oh, and Dem leaders dont pay taxes

Posted by: nobama9 | March 26, 2009 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Tax Cuts eased the recession brought on by the .COM BUST during the Clinton 8 years. They worked and stimulated the economy.

Government can never do with less, but its citizenry are always asked to do with less. Screw you Rep and Dem. The govenment needs to shed some weight and share the burden us citizens are told to bear.

Why did the congress get a raise during a recession? They deserve no bonus for the last 8-years of failure? The dems were in charge of congress for two years and no changes.

If you think AIG employees are scum for getting a bonus then you should fee the same way about our congress.

Posted by: tjillmereaolcom | March 26, 2009 3:27 PM | Report abuse

I hope that everyone on Capital Hill can now stop all the posturing and get something meaningful done!!!!!!!!!!

Watching Congress these last few weeks demonstrates to me that members of Congress are almost as bad as managers at companies that are receiving TARP monies. They do not seem to get it!!!

Oh, and all you republicans - could you please put in your budget proposal to have everyone in congress that recieved a pay raise at the beginning of the year to return it or be taxed at 90%!!!! After all we are all in this mess together.

Posted by: tallyman-5 | March 26, 2009 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Watching these losers make fools of themselves is fun, good times!

Posted by: calif-joe | March 26, 2009 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Budgets and major policy issues need to be jointly crafted.

Posted by: MylesSchulberg | March 26, 2009 3:21 PM
*******************

Now, why ought that be the case when it wasn't under GOP rule? And, let me remind you that Bush LOST the popular vote.

The GOP reminds me of my little brother when we were little kids. I mean, really little kids.

Posted by: abqcleve | March 26, 2009 3:37 PM | Report abuse

The title of this article should be changed. The House Republicans have not offered an alternative budget. It states in the story that they will not propose a full alternative budget, but amendments to the current budget proposal.

Furthermore, how can a proposal with no numbers be considered a budget!?

Same crap, different day.

Posted by: DinahS | March 26, 2009 3:44 PM | Report abuse

nobama1, now that is a name isn't it?

So what do you propose to do about the poor - 25 per cent of the population. If you do not take money from the people who have money how are you going to lift these people out of poverty?

Oh, you don't care Mr. nobama, is that what you say? Sounds just like a Republican and that is a perfectly valid opinion but get you Republican friends on television to come out and say that WE REPUBLICANS DO NOT CARE ABOUT POOR PEOPLE. WE DON"T CARE ABOUT THE ELDERLY OR THE DISADVANTAGED. And then have just one ammendment to the constitution - one exception to the second amendment on free speech - NO ONE CAN EVER SAY THAT THIS IS A GREAT COUNTRY because a country that does not take care of its poor or its disadvantaged is not a great country, it is a piece of garbage, and not worth a damn.

So take that and shove it you - well enough said.

Posted by: nyrunner101 | March 26, 2009 3:45 PM | Report abuse

An Analysis of the Republican Budget Proposal
Prepared with all the careful thought and attention to detail of the Proposal Itself:

The Republican Budget Proposal would cut taxes while lowering the level of stimulus, leading to higher deficits and a longer recession. It would maintain the hands-off approach to financial markets which lead to the current crisis, again prolonging the recession and leading to higher deficits.

Conclusion: House Republicans are agents and allies of America's enemies, likely Hugo Chavez, Vladimir Putin, and Osama bin Laden.

Posted by: j2hess | March 26, 2009 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Hey nyrunner101:

Shove this...why didn't The GREAT OBAMA's cabinet pay taxes if it is so important to help the poor of our nation? You think Tim Geitner gave a rats ass about the poor not paying taxes all those years? What incompetence.

And how about The GREAT OBAMA himself...have you look over his tax return? Only 1% for charity. So much for the poor and now he wants to remove this deduction.

Posted by: tjillmereaolcom | March 26, 2009 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Hey j2hess:

"It would maintain the hands-off approach to financial markets which lead to the current crisis, again prolonging the recession and leading to higher deficits"

Every hear of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac? The government is in bed with these two and no oversight whatsoever. What happened to the regulations on these two?!?!? Dodd and Frank weren't interested in these two failures much less regulating them.

http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2008/09/27/obama-barney-frank-fannie-mae-freddie-mac-democrats-cause-of-crisis-mccain-warned-mccain-reformer-youtube-video-democrat-coverups-bailout-truth/

Posted by: tjillmereaolcom | March 26, 2009 3:56 PM | Report abuse

A huge income tax cut. Why am I not surprised? And when you dig into it, most of it will go to the rich. Some ol', same ol'.

Posted by: tinyjab40 | March 26, 2009 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Hey tinyjab40:

Do you bother to read the other posts?!?!?

Only the rich pay taxes so they are largest recipient of Tax cuts.

If you liberals would pay your taxes, maybe they would not need to be so high. All of OBAMA's cabinet are tax cheats. These are the very people you hold on a pedestal.

Get off the class warfare retorict and start supporting your spend the goverment into oblivion strategy.

Spending more that you have is not the answer either.

Posted by: tjillmereaolcom | March 26, 2009 4:06 PM | Report abuse

This includes a major massive tax cut for the wealthy. This proposal is just executive bonuses in a different disguise.

Posted by: tinyjab40 | March 26, 2009 4:09 PM | Report abuse

The Republican’s decided to get their favorite lobbyists together and write a budget that caters to the rich and special interest groups that help fuel Republican campaigns. There has never been a party so out of touch with American people as the Republican party. The only thing that surpasses their out of touch criteria is their corruption and self-serving agenda. The next time a Republican says they are dong something for the American people, scream liars. We bought in to how tax cuts for the rich and corporate America was suppose to trickle down to middle class and we saw how that worked out for middle class America. The trickle went into the pockets of the rich. Republican party needs to change their name to the Party of Hypocrites.

Posted by: steveeyes | March 26, 2009 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Hey tinyjab40, steveeyes:

Who didn't pay their taxes? OBAMA's cabinet. All CHEATS! Who is cheating the middle class when tax cheats drive up the tax rate by weaseling out of them.

Why do 50% of the population not pay taxes? It is time to change the tax system into a flat tax where EVERYONE pays a flat percentage. It is fair and long overdue. No write-offs, no incentives, just pay up.

Posted by: tjillmereaolcom | March 26, 2009 4:21 PM | Report abuse

nobama wrote: "Keep in mind it was the government who got us into this mess in the first place."

More specifically, it was REPUBLICAN government that got us into this mess. A bad artist doesn't make all art bad, and a bad government doesn't mean all government is bad.

I've seen eight years of Republican budgets that don't add up, I'll pass on this feeble joke, thanks.

Posted by: nodebris | March 26, 2009 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Hey nodebris:

"I've seen eight years of Republican budgets that don't add up, I'll pass on this feeble joke, thanks."

When has a DEMOCRAT budget added up? Get real! It is tax and spend to oblivion or just keep borrowing. When does it end? It is easy to just hate one party or the other. Hate is easy right everyone?

Why not point out exactly what the DEMS are so great at doing that trumps the REPS?

You party lovers need to step back and actually take on the issues.

Posted by: tjillmereaolcom | March 26, 2009 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Sounds and looks and smells like a copy of Chimpy's last budget proposal... N F W ...

That's what brought us to the point we found ourselves in on Jan. 1 2009....We ALL should pass and laugh at these fools as we pass them on the street corner....

Posted by: rbaldwin2 | March 26, 2009 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Hey rbaldwin2:

As you laugh your ass off, tell us what direction we need take as a country. Do you want to burden your children with 50 years of heavy taxation with the trillions of dollars of debt we are adding to our rolls with EVERY PRESIDENT?!?!?!

Where is the proof spending ourselves silly is the answer?

Posted by: tjillmereaolcom | March 26, 2009 4:41 PM | Report abuse

"Our economic plan amounts to less government, lower taxes and economic prosperity"...

Ummm... Okay. LOL

Posted by: associate20 | March 26, 2009 4:55 PM | Report abuse

How embarassing for the GOP. They call a news conference to announce their "Alternative Budget" and proceed to present a pamphlet with no details, no numbers, no new ideas. Again, the party of NO has proven their name. The one main talking point was tax cuts. What a surprise. Please, if you're telling us you will present an alternative budget, show us the details.

Posted by: jerzygrl | March 26, 2009 4:56 PM | Report abuse

While not overly enthusiastic about further deficit spending, I am willing to believe this might work to turn the economy around if EVERYONE really wants a productive economy for all rather than the elite few. After hearing tax cut,deregulation, and tax cut as the only Republican mantras (and see where that has gotten us), I would like to remind everyone that Reagan presided over the largest tax increases since WWII one year after has massive tax cut. He knew that government cannot function when it has no money to operate with. It is time for all of us to get behind what we have to work with nationally and do our best to lift this economy out of the doldrums. The past 8 years of deregulate, cut , borrow, and spend has not worked. Let's try Obama's plan. This may not work, but the Gods need to save us if it doesn't!

Posted by: alrob | March 26, 2009 5:01 PM | Report abuse

First of all the Post version of this story leaves out the fact that Rep. John Boehner was asked where are the cuts coming from and his response was, "we'll see next week". In other words, he doesn't believe what was in the GOP recovery plan. They are still vetting their own plan that probably ONLY offers more tax cuts and incentives, no investments.

Rep. John Boehner needs to be careful, Ohio did go "Blue" this past November. He could see himself being voted out if the President and the democrats economic plans work.

Posted by: ajackson3 | March 26, 2009 5:12 PM | Report abuse

The republican party reminds me of the old show Hee Haw and that line in the song which I will change a few words to fit their party. "If it wern't for tax cuts we'd have no ideas at all, gloom, despair and agony on us. Or maybe it's Jr. Samples used ideas sale. If your old enough to remember this show then this all makes sense. In other words the republican party is a joke.

Posted by: nikonguy | March 26, 2009 5:30 PM | Report abuse

How about having the elected officials we pay to legislate actually read the damn bills they are VOTING ON! This is just plain inexcusable!

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/03/25/business/econwatch/entry4893482.shtml

Posted by: tjillmereaolcom | March 26, 2009 5:33 PM | Report abuse

Sure, the GOP will show us the numbers in their budget...just like they showed us the WMDs in Iraq.

Posted by: DavidJG | March 26, 2009 5:35 PM | Report abuse

Hey nikonguy:

The republican party is a joke? What and the dems are not? Both parties have gone to their extreme left/right wing fringes. OBAMA has shown it is amateur hour at the white house by the bungling of the AIG bonuses. He was directly responsible for putting the amendment in the bill which no one READ!!! Incompetence abounds. Then he acts surpised!!?!??!

Get real you idiots who live and die in your party.


Posted by: tjillmereaolcom | March 26, 2009 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Surely there was room for the complete title of the Republican budget goals: "Road to Recovery from the Misguided Road We Led You Down for Eight Years"....

Posted by: Roads | March 26, 2009 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Hey Roads you party bigot:

"Surely there was room for the complete title of the Republican budget goals: "Road to Recovery from the Misguided Road We Led You Down for Eight Years"...."

The next 8 years are not going to get any better. Once the REPS and DEMS are gone, the country will return to its roots of limited government and freedom.

Vote Libertarian.

Posted by: tjillmereaolcom | March 26, 2009 5:45 PM | Report abuse

"You dems are very confused:
Gop is offering:
Tax cuts to PEOPLE THAT PAY TAXES"

Sorry, numbnutz, but everyone who works pays taxes. You appear to be the one who is confused. Try turning off Rush Limpballs every so often.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | March 26, 2009 5:59 PM | Report abuse

"After 27 days, the best House Republicans could come up with is a 19-page pamphlet that does not include a single real budget proposal or estimate," said DNC National Press Secretary Hari Sevugan.. There are more numbers in my last sentence than there are in the entire House GOP 'budget.'

hahahahaha. Good one.

Posted by: mikem1 | March 26, 2009 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Can you make a budget for your home that does not have any dollar amounts? That is what the GOP is offering. I will receive, "I don't know how much" and I will spend "I don't know how much". That Is GOP logic for Ya!!

Posted by: all2luv | March 26, 2009 6:31 PM | Report abuse

Hey koolkat_1960:

Get this, 50% of Americans don't pay federal income taxes. Why don't you take a look at the latest CBO report on taxes and get your facts straight. The Earned Income Credit is welfare pure and simple.

We shouldn't even have an IRS agency. The flat tax takes away all the H&R blocks and other crooks who do tax preparation. If EVERYONE paid their 10% no deductions, no shenanigans, the government would be well funded.

By the way, OBMAMA's tax cut is actually a tax credit (no cut here). A measly $400 or $800 for couples. Next year, you income is that much higher and will be taxed. Nice snow job OBAMA. Your LIBERAL flock will follow you off the cliff.

Get REAL people! Think about the country and get off the party bigotry train. Think for yourselves for a change rather than follow some idiotic party.

Posted by: tjillmereaolcom | March 26, 2009 6:32 PM | Report abuse

ha ha ha

gop budget = 19 pages with pictures, crayons included
gop health care = "we'll pray for u" (gov sanford)
gop safety net = tent city (bushville)
gop energy plan = drill baby drill
gop economy = china
gop leadership = rush rush rush

ha ha ha

Posted by: JoeBridgeman | March 26, 2009 6:51 PM | Report abuse

The GOP didnt propose a budget.........
one of their kids wrote a 5th grade book report on Republican economic Theory that failed during the Bush administration, and they took the title off and submitted it as a pamphlet to lead the press around by the nose like a bunch of dogs to a biscuit.

It definitely shows, that the GOP are Not smarter than a 5th grader.


Posted by: Fuelbreakingme | March 26, 2009 7:12 PM | Report abuse

I went out to GOP web page to this thing for myself. It provided much needed comic relief after a long day at work. In the business world, we would call that document a "Marketing Brochure." Pretty, sleek and full of empty fluff. Lots of platitude and attitude but no substance.

Posted by: IndependentVA1 | March 26, 2009 7:27 PM | Report abuse

Hey IndependentVA1:

"Lots of platitude and attitude but no substance."

The democrats are all platitude and attitude. Why that is OBAMA's whole package. It shows in his amateur hour cabinet he selected. It really looks like 5th graders are running the country.

Again, instead of BUSH and REP bashing, why don't you offer your solution to our country's problems.

Posted by: tjillmereaolcom | March 26, 2009 7:59 PM | Report abuse

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/business/taxes/more_voters_than_ever_say_tax_cuts_help_the_economy

Apparently the majority of the voters (63%) agree that tax cuts help the economy. I guess the Republicans are seizing on this and why not? It is apparent that this administration feels he should raise our taxes instead. I mean...66% of the American people believe that incomes under 250K will see an increase.

Posted by: warhawk911 | March 26, 2009 8:27 PM | Report abuse

how can some of you spend your entire day arguing with strangers on the internet?

Posted by: menaman | March 26, 2009 9:17 PM | Report abuse

These Republicans are idiots. Cut every program EXCEPT defense? Defense should be the FIRST THING CUT.

Gimme a break. Spend the next eight years in the wilderness boys.

Posted by: elh74 | March 26, 2009 9:25 PM | Report abuse

Hey menaman:

Have you been under a rock? Remember the 787 Billion stimulus bill? It has massive amounts of cash for welfare and next to nothing for stimulus.

So we are all on welfare and have nothing to do but waste our lives away waiting for the next hand out from The Great OBAMA!

OBAMA's stimulus plan is designed to keep you unemployed a ward of the government so you continue to vote DEM.

Thanks for working hard for the rest of us!

Posted by: tjillmereaolcom | March 26, 2009 9:26 PM | Report abuse

Less government???...maybe we should ask the Terri Schiavo family to weigh in on the Republican's "less government" policies.

Posted by: shoegal_69 | March 26, 2009 9:29 PM | Report abuse

warhawk911, Rasmussen also said that McCain was only 1 point behind Obama and a dozen electoral points away from catching up...the day before the election. Ironically, this was the one poll that made such a claim.

But please, keep clinging to your one hope.

Posted by: shoegal_69 | March 26, 2009 9:31 PM | Report abuse

Hey elh74:

Get real. You would be speaking German or Russian if it wasn't for our DEFENSE.

If we are to protect our liberties here in the US, a strong DEFENSE is necessary. Remember, our military is not coerced like other countries, but is VOLUNTARY.

You must like having Guantanamo closed and the terrorists living amongst us on our dime.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hQx1c6pfzanuBtfaph4tv9QLhSaQ

Posted by: tjillmereaolcom | March 26, 2009 9:32 PM | Report abuse

tjillmereaolcom, the Earned Income Credit was created by Ronald Reagan. Who, according to Republicans, would be considered a big old socialist today.

Posted by: shoegal_69 | March 26, 2009 9:34 PM | Report abuse

Um shoegal? Considering the fact that they are normally accurate, i'll stick to the facts thanks. It is funny though that people are condemning this but then again, it is what I come to expect from most people who cannot stomach alternate proposals.

Oh and another thing shoegal, I'm a democrat.

Posted by: warhawk911 | March 26, 2009 9:35 PM | Report abuse

The GOP are Lazy!

Just Down Right Lazy!

They can talk a lot of words and make it all sound so good; however, when it comes to showing you the goodies, you get nothing but excuses, excuses, and finger pointing.

Posted by: lcarter0311 | March 26, 2009 9:35 PM | Report abuse

Hey shoegal_69:

Get real! You can't have it both ways. You are probably a believer in regulation after regulation. The more government the better. But, you want the government to stay out of abortion and euthanasia.

Give it a rest. The reason the US IS today is because of government. The constitution has been sliced and diced by the liberal judicial systems avoiding the congress which is where laws are created. More legislation from the bench.

Terri Schiavo...get real! You probably were one of heartless idiots who wanted her dead!

Posted by: tjillmereaolcom | March 26, 2009 9:39 PM | Report abuse

Ummmmmmmm.....no warhawk911, they're usually NOT accurate. Obviously what I wrote went over your head.

Posted by: shoegal_69 | March 26, 2009 9:39 PM | Report abuse

tjillmereaolcom....says the party that believes in individual rights as long as you're white Christian and heterosexual.

Don't you guys have a brain dead woman's family to intrude on?

Posted by: shoegal_69 | March 26, 2009 9:41 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Bacon, you note the budget outline as a thin, 19-page pamphlet like it's a bad thing. Even though it's not the final proposal that comes next week (hey, even Obama says he needs time to do his homework!) At least the Republican proposal doesn't spend us into oblivion, AND IT'S THIN ENOUGH TO ACTUALLY BE READ THROUGH. Unlike the 3.8 trillion dollar Obama experiments that no Congressperson can intelligently explain, much less defend.

Posted by: moonpalmetto | March 26, 2009 9:42 PM | Report abuse

tjillmereaolcom....BTW, Terri Schiavo was medically dead....and you people didn't give a sh*t about her. It was the most disgusting display on political posturing.

Posted by: shoegal_69 | March 26, 2009 9:43 PM | Report abuse

"More legislation from the bench"

Most of those judges were appointed by Republicans....typical rewriting of history by the party of no accountability.

Posted by: shoegal_69 | March 26, 2009 9:45 PM | Report abuse

Hey shoegal_69:

"tjillmereaolcom, the Earned Income Credit was created by Ronald Reagan. Who, according to Republicans, would be considered a big old socialist today."

WHO SAID I WAS A REPUB? Reagan wasn't perfect my friend. So get off your party bigotry wagon. I am looking for results for me and my family not party worshiping. It is about country not party politics.

Don't strip my hard earned cash and tell me you can distribute it better than me you Marxist idiot.

When it comes to greed the GOVERNMENT is the biggest abuser not Coporations.

Vote Libertarian!

Posted by: tjillmereaolcom | March 26, 2009 9:48 PM | Report abuse

Hey shoegal_6:

"tjillmereaolcom....says the party that believes in individual rights as long as you're white Christian and heterosexual.

Don't you guys have a brain dead woman's family to intrude on?"

This is an example of the ignorance and bigotry of the LEFT. It is all about hate, racism, and religous bigotry. Good job showing your true colors.

Posted by: tjillmereaolcom | March 26, 2009 9:52 PM | Report abuse

tjillmereaolcom...not a Republican huh? Just like to repeat their standard lines of BS though I see. Marxist? You forgot socialist, communist, baby killer, terrorist lover, and kool aid sipper!

You're looking for results...well let's see...is the price of food is a little too high..tax cuts for the rich...price of healthcare skyrocketing...tax cuts for the rich...house on fire...well...tax cuts for the rich always solve the problem.

The only results you seem to be looking for is the results of the last disastrous 8 years. Maybe you'll luck out and Obama will invade a sovereign country for the he11 of it. Ya know...the results you "non-Republican" champion.

Posted by: shoegal_69 | March 26, 2009 9:55 PM | Report abuse

tjillmereaolcom, religious bigotry? Oh that's right, Republicans have the monopoly on God. You are a Republican, you're thinking is so simplistic. The bigotry on the left? I don't recall anyone on the left defending that moron who carved the backwards B on her cheek. She's part of your backwoods Southern ilk.

"Barack the Magic Negro"

"Star Spanglish Banner"

That's the scum that comes from the right...thoroughly rejected by this ever growing diverse nation.

Posted by: shoegal_69 | March 26, 2009 10:02 PM | Report abuse

Hey shoegal_69:

"More legislation from the bench"

"Most of those judges were appointed by Republicans....typical rewriting of history by the party of no accountability."


It makes not one bit of difference who appointed the judges. This is just your LEFTY interjection. The point is that these critical issues need vetting by congress not a band of 9.

Posted by: tjillmereaolcom | March 26, 2009 10:05 PM | Report abuse

Hey shoegal? You know what? You need to relax! You are uptight and full of inaccuracies.

Posted by: warhawk911 | March 26, 2009 10:05 PM | Report abuse

warhawk911, no sweetheart, you're full on inaccuracies. That's why you're clutching for dear life one poll while ignoring the others that challenge those results.

If relaxing means selective information gathering...then no thanks.

Posted by: shoegal_69 | March 26, 2009 10:07 PM | Report abuse

Based on all the comments in the WaPo posts,
I have come to a reasonable and proofable statement:We are no longer the United States of America! So stop calling yourselves citizens of such, you are not!

Ever since the civil war,which the south is still fighting, has there been such strong anti-party rhetoric eschewed. We don't have to fear instituting European politics and economic policies, something bigger is rearing it's head!

That is: we as a people or rather "we the People" have taken it upon ourselves to
embrace the way Iraq, the Czech republic and all other divided countries in the world choose to deal with their internal political differences,to embracing the slaughter and annihilation of the opposing party. It all starts with words, driven by hate, which leads to fist which leads to weapons which leads to killing, which leads to payback and the next thing you know, 2000 years have gone by and the killing never stops.

If you call yourself a citizen and believe in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights,
and a democratic way of life, PROVE IT!

Posted by: victorlove1 | March 26, 2009 10:11 PM | Report abuse

Hey shoegal_69:

"You're looking for results...well let's see...is the price of food is a little too high..tax cuts for the rich...price of healthcare skyrocketing...tax cuts for the rich...house on fire...well...tax cuts for the rich always solve the problem."

Again, what is it that you propose to do to rectify the above mentioned problems facing our country? I am still waiting for your ideas.

Posted by: tjillmereaolcom | March 26, 2009 10:11 PM | Report abuse

Actually shoegal, I'm not clutching to one poll. It is a relatively known fact that tax cuts do help the economy. Gallup even had a poll that stated that americans favor tax cuts over govt spending.

I guess that is two polls now.

Posted by: warhawk911 | March 26, 2009 10:11 PM | Report abuse

tjillmereaolcom....don't recall you labeling anyone a "rightie"...Mr Non Partisan.

I don't blame you...I wouldn't want to tie myself to a party that's made stupidity a virtue either.

Posted by: shoegal_69 | March 26, 2009 10:12 PM | Report abuse

Hey shoegal_69:

"tjillmereaolcom....don't recall you labeling anyone a "rightie"...Mr Non Partisan."

The term is RIGHT WING not rightie. Get your terminology straight. You can call me what you like RIGHT WING or LEFTY. I am partisan in ideas. Lets here yours.

Posted by: tjillmereaolcom | March 26, 2009 10:17 PM | Report abuse

warhawk911..oh I'm sure Americans support tax cuts...tax cuts for the middle class that Obama is proposing. The Republicans philosophy of trickle down economics has been rejected...get over it. Trumpeting one poll that gives you the results you desire won't change that fact.

Since you guys are intent on parading around Palin, Steele, Limbaugh and other GOP clowns as your glorious leaders...maybe it's time to take bets on which red state you'll lose in 2012. Since, I'm sure the GOP's tactics or policies won't change. They haven't for the last 40 years anyway!

Posted by: shoegal_69 | March 26, 2009 10:19 PM | Report abuse

Well I guess the looney left does not want to hear any alternatives that are far better than what Obama has in store. I mean...cnsnews.com had an article on the Republican's alternative that would create more jobs than Obama's and save us money as well.

I guess the "mainstream" press would have nothing of it.

Posted by: warhawk911 | March 26, 2009 10:20 PM | Report abuse

"Well I guess the looney left does not want to hear any alternatives that are far better than what Obama has in store"

warhawk911, of course we want to hear an alternative. Any idea of when that will be?

Posted by: shoegal_69 | March 26, 2009 10:22 PM | Report abuse

Um shoegal? I guess you do not realize that the middle class will be receiving nothing as their energy bills will go up, heating bills will go up, price of gas will go up, oh and other prices will go up because of an increase in taxes!

So tell me...where is the tax cut? A tax credit is not a tax cut.

Posted by: warhawk911 | March 26, 2009 10:22 PM | Report abuse

"The term is RIGHT WING not rightie. Get your terminology straight. You can call me what you like RIGHT WING or LEFTY. I am partisan in ideas. Lets here yours."

Get my terminology right? BAHHAAAAA. That's right...RIGHT WING NUTJOBS have been substituting sound policies for terminology and slogans for years. But at least you guys are consistent...you've "stayed the course" for failure since the 80's.

Posted by: shoegal_69 | March 26, 2009 10:25 PM | Report abuse

As I said shoegal. CNSnews.com had an article on it. Unlike you, I get my news from numerous sources. Unlike you it seems, I am a well informed voter and I am telling you that taxes will go up for the middle class. The so called top 2% know how to game the system and Obama is going to need to grab the funds somewhere. The Middle Class will be next.

Posted by: warhawk911 | March 26, 2009 10:26 PM | Report abuse

Oh and shoegal? Any google search for American support tax cuts will show you just how much people support it.

Posted by: warhawk911 | March 26, 2009 10:27 PM | Report abuse

warhawk911, I guess you don't realize that a small business owner saving a whooping 4k a year probably encourage him to go on a massive hiring spree.

The wealthy ARE benefiting from the Bush tax cuts as we speak. Exactly how low will their taxes have to go before we actually see some results? Does zero sound like a fair number to you?

Posted by: shoegal_69 | March 26, 2009 10:29 PM | Report abuse

"Oh and shoegal? Any google search for American support tax cuts will show you just how much people support it."

Slower this time...they...don't...support...your..party's...tax tax cut..proposal..they...support...Obama's. As any google search will inform you...because apparently the results of November 4th haven't convinced you enough.

Posted by: shoegal_69 | March 26, 2009 10:31 PM | Report abuse

Probably not shoegal as the businesses will see taxes go up and as such, prices will go up which means people will be purchasing less. That means, there will be less money going in and thus LAYOFFS!!! Hell businesses are already laying people off or have you not been following the news?

Anyone know the numbers of small businesses?

Posted by: warhawk911 | March 26, 2009 10:32 PM | Report abuse

CNSnews.com? OMG! Well, let me go consult the DailyKos and see what they say *snark*

Posted by: shoegal_69 | March 26, 2009 10:33 PM | Report abuse

Funny. I never mentioned political parties now did I? Nope I didn't. Nice attempt of painting it that way. I guess you didn't read the link. If you have, You would see that support for tax cuts receive high marks across both parties.

Continue with that delusion but um...support for Obama's budget is actually going down. If it weren't he would not have his volunteers canvasing the neighborhoods.

Posted by: warhawk911 | March 26, 2009 10:35 PM | Report abuse

"Unlike you it seems, I am a well informed voter and I am telling you that taxes will go up for the middle class."

Well informed voter? And you voted for McCain and Palin? Did it not behoove you to vote for candidates that can name a Supreme Court decision or knew that Spain was in Europe? No honey, you're perfectly in line with a party that equates intelligence with elitism.

Posted by: shoegal_69 | March 26, 2009 10:36 PM | Report abuse

"Continue with that delusion but um...support for Obama's budget is actually going down. If it weren't he would not have his volunteers canvasing the neighborhoods."

And the support for the Republicans proposal? How much support is there for "tax cuts solve all problems"? Don't answer...you conveniently forgot to mention how terribly their polls number are......

Posted by: shoegal_69 | March 26, 2009 10:38 PM | Report abuse

Funny shoegal. Actually neither McCain nor Obama deserved my vote for President. But suffice to say, I didn't vote for either of them. Why? Because I'm an informed voter. Just because I oppose Obama does not mean I supported McCain. Due try to remember that!

Did I mention that I am a registered Democrat shoegal?

Posted by: warhawk911 | March 26, 2009 10:39 PM | Report abuse

Hey shoegal? It hasn't been fully released yet. Jesus you really are ignorant when it comes to how government works.

Here's a question for you: If the Republican Budget costs less than Obama's and does not increase the debt as much as Obama's, would you support it?

Posted by: warhawk911 | March 26, 2009 10:42 PM | Report abuse

warhawk911, oh so theY stage a huge press conference to announce they don't have a plan yet...and I'm ignorant? LMAO

Posted by: shoegal_69 | March 26, 2009 10:43 PM | Report abuse

"Actually neither McCain nor Obama deserved my vote for President. But suffice to say, I didn't vote for either of them"

Riigghhttt, you didn't vote for McCain...you just support his policies. Got it Einstein

Posted by: shoegal_69 | March 26, 2009 10:44 PM | Report abuse

:headbang:

shoegal? You really are a partisan hack who has no f*cking clue as to what was said. They released a sketch of their plan BUT that the REST OF THE DETAILS WILL BE RELEASED NEXT WEEK!!!! I guess you really cannot read either.

I hate partisan hacks on both sides of the aisle.

Posted by: warhawk911 | March 26, 2009 10:45 PM | Report abuse

You still on that kick huh shoegal? You think I support McCain's policy? I do not support any politician 100%. Unfortunately, you sound like you support Obama's 100%. That's sad and shows me that you really do not care at all for an honest debate.

Posted by: warhawk911 | March 26, 2009 10:47 PM | Report abuse

"You really are a partisan hack who has no f*cking clue as to what was said."

Looks like it's you who needs to relax. What's with the expletives? You need to calm your azz down. I'm not cursing at you so watch yourself dude.

"They released a sketch of their plan BUT that the REST OF THE DETAILS WILL BE RELEASED NEXT WEEK!!"

Then wait til next week...who stages a press conference to tell the country they'll be back next week?

"I guess you really cannot read either."

What I read is that they have a plan that they'll reveal today. What I heard was wait til next week.

Posted by: shoegal_69 | March 26, 2009 10:49 PM | Report abuse

The Democrats apparently for it took them about the same amount of time to release their full budget after giving us a taste of what was coming out!

It is Standard Operating Procedure for the Federal Government to do this.

Posted by: warhawk911 | March 26, 2009 10:50 PM | Report abuse

"Unfortunately, you sound like you support Obama's 100%."

I support any policy that doesn't stick a tax cut for the rich band-aid on every economic situation. Unlike you, my thinking is a little more nuance.

Posted by: shoegal_69 | March 26, 2009 10:51 PM | Report abuse

"I hate partisan hacks on both sides of the aisle."

Then maybe you need to stop regurgitating partisan talking points and quoting Rasmussen as your bible to how the the country views Obama.

Posted by: shoegal_69 | March 26, 2009 10:52 PM | Report abuse

How interesting considering my parents taxes went down with the Bush tax cut. I guess that dispells your theory that they were only for the rich! Do you know that nearly 50% of the people do not pay taxes because they do not qualify to pay them shoegal?

Posted by: warhawk911 | March 26, 2009 10:53 PM | Report abuse

I'm not regurgitating anything. I am calling you to account because you really do not seem to understand just how government works.

BTW: you never answered my question!

If the Republicans budget has a lower budget deficit and debt, would you support it?

Posted by: warhawk911 | March 26, 2009 10:54 PM | Report abuse

"The Democrats apparently for it took them about the same amount of time to release their full budget after giving us a taste of what was coming out! It is Standard Operating Procedure for the Federal Government to do this"

No it wasn't..it was a tacky thoughtless gimmick because Obama called them out for not having an alternative. They've had two months to come up with a plan....what they gave us is a "wait til next week".

Perhaps they should increase the font to 35 so "tax cuts for the rich" takes up a few more pages.

Posted by: shoegal_69 | March 26, 2009 10:55 PM | Report abuse

Nice dodge shoegal! thank you for proving my thesis that you are ignorant on governmental affairs.

Posted by: warhawk911 | March 26, 2009 10:58 PM | Report abuse

It has been fun shoegal, but it is late here and I have to be up early tomorrow.

Hopefully you'll actually answer my question one day!

Posted by: warhawk911 | March 26, 2009 11:00 PM | Report abuse

"If the Republicans budget has a lower budget deficit and debt, would you support it?"

Nope, because they're plan doesn't include education. Ironic for a party that thinks that everyone should pull themselves up by their own boot straps. They're plan doesn't address healthcare. Guess what happens to the cost of healthcare every time someone goes to the ER for an existing condition and can't pay? You're coverage plan goes up. They're plan doesn't address our dependency on foreign oil. Unless you're in favor of frog marching into another war of choice.

The Republicans are short term thinkers. Their policies are not designed to lay down the foundation of long term goals. That's why it didn't dawn on them that the Southern Strategy would eventually bite them in the azz.

Posted by: shoegal_69 | March 26, 2009 11:01 PM | Report abuse

"Hopefully you'll actually answer my question one day!"

Is today soon enough?

Posted by: shoegal_69 | March 26, 2009 11:02 PM | Report abuse

"Nice dodge shoegal! thank you for proving my thesis that you are ignorant on governmental affairs."

Watch your name calling! Make this the last time you call me ignorant. If you're not mature enough to have a debate without the childish name calling let me know...there's a 15 year old out there I'm sure can teach you how.

Posted by: shoegal_69 | March 26, 2009 11:04 PM | Report abuse

warhawk911, you don't want none of me!

Here's a suggestion, since you enjoy getting raped by corporate policies, bend over and grab your ankles. Hold the position until another Republican comes into the Oval Office.

Good night!

Posted by: shoegal_69 | March 26, 2009 11:16 PM | Report abuse

Soaring healthcare costs; millions without health insurance. Solution? TAX CUTS! American children falling behind their peers in other countries. Solution? TAX CUTS! Financial Crisis, insolvent banks, foreclosures and plunging real estate values. Solution? TAX CUTS! Crumbling, antiquated infrastructure. Solution? TAX CUTS! A growing deficit. Solution? Reduce government revenue, in other words, TAX CUTS! Global Warming. What global warming? Anyway, the solution would be TAX CUTS! The Republican Party becoming an increasingly irrelevant voice in the national political discourse because of a paucity of new ideas which actually address the problems confronting society. Solution? TAX CUTS, TAX CUTS, TAX CUTS!

To the Republican Party and their followers, there is no problem which cannot be solved by simply cutting taxes (and maybe a war or two).

Posted by: atlasfugged | March 26, 2009 11:24 PM | Report abuse

Yea, I'm not sure a few pages with a conspicuous absence of numbers qualifies as a budget. And tax cuts aren't something I'd be particularly stoked about; it hasn't really helped our nation when we opted for that.

Hopefully we can turn this economy around--without much help from these jokers, apparently--and actually focus on solving the deeper, systemic issues for why we're in this situation. Obviously bad banking's a good place to start, but there are other issues, like global poverty, that have huge economic and geopolitical ramifications.

The Borgen Project (www.borgenproject.org) has some interesting insight into addressing the issues of global poverty, something we can remedy easily and sustainably.

Some interesting figures to ponder:
$30 billion USD: The annual shortfall to end global poverty.
$550 billion USD: The annual US defense budget.

Posted by: concernedcitizen1111 | March 27, 2009 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Shoegal69, congrats! U just trounced Warhawk911 and that other fake 'democrat' guy.

Posted by: k-dub1 | March 27, 2009 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Barack Obama and his wife Michelle gave $10,772 of the $1.2 million they earned from 2000 through 2004 to charities, or less than 1 percent, according to tax returns for those years released today by his campaign.

The Obamas increased the amount they gave to charity when their income rose in 2005 and 2006 after the Illinois senator published a bestselling book. The $137,622 they gave over those two years amounted to more than 5 percent of their $2.6 million income.
Barack Obama and his wife Michelle gave $10,772 of the $1.2 million they earned from 2000 through 2004 to charities, or less than 1 percent, according to tax returns for those years released today by his campaign.

The Obamas increased the amount they gave to charity when their income rose in 2005 and 2006 after the Illinois senator published a bestselling book. The $137,622 they gave over those two years amounted to more than 5 percent of their $2.6 million income.
The Obamas increased the amount they gave to charity when their income rose in 2005 and 2006 after the Illinois senator published a bestselling book. The $137,622 they gave over those two years amounted to more than 5 percent of their $2.6 million income.

mcbrainless gave 18% to charity--HIS own--& to his children's shool--while they attended them.So he donated money to his own charity & used it for a tax write off.
AND you nail Obama for a 1% which increased to 5%?

Between 2001 and 2006,
McCain contributed roughly $950,000 to the foundation. That accounted for all of its listed income other than for $100 that came from an anonymous donor. During that same period, the McCain foundation made contributions of roughly $1.6 million. More than $500,000 went to his kids’ private schools, most of which was donated when his children were attending those institutions. So McCain apparently received major tax deductions for supporting elite schools attended by his children.

Posted by: katerinaDeligiannis | March 27, 2009 11:03 PM | Report abuse

Libs,

Your party is funded by a Nazi sympathizer who stole possessions from jews who were being carted off to concentration camps...I guess all that matters to you is wether or not they give enough money...get a job and stop b....ing

Posted by: 2xy4k9 | March 28, 2009 2:00 AM | Report abuse

Their "budget" plan will be posted Wednesday and Friday is when the vote on the budget is scheduled.

How many will have a chance to read it?

Will it be like their Social Security Drug plan $200-400 billion under estimated?

Posted by: ddoiron1 | March 29, 2009 10:19 AM | Report abuse

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