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CIA Says Pelosi Was Briefed on Use of 'Enhanced Interrogations'

By Paul Kane
Intelligence officials released documents this evening saying that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) was briefed in September 2002 about the use of harsh interrogation tactics against al-Qaeda prisoners, seemingly contradicting her repeated statements over the past 18 months that she was never told that these techniques were actually being used.

In a 10-page memo outlining an almost seven-year history of classified briefings, intelligence officials said that Pelosi and then-Rep. Porter Goss (R-Fla.) were the first two members of Congress ever briefed on the interrogation tactics. Then the ranking member and chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, respectively, Pelosi and Goss were briefed Sept. 4, 2002, one week before the first anniversary of the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

The memo, issued by the Director of National Intelligence and the Central Intelligence Agency to Capitol Hill, notes the Pelosi-Goss briefing covered "EITs including the use of EITs on Abu Zubaydah." EIT is an acronym for enhanced interrogation technique. Zubaydah was one of the earliest valuable al-Qaeda members captured and the first to have the controversial tactic known as water boarding used against him.

The issue of what Pelosi knew and when she knew it has become a matter of heated debate on Capitol Hill. Republicans have accused her of knowing for many years precisely the techniques CIA agents were using in interrogations, and only protesting the tactics when they became public and liberal antiwar activists protested.

In a carefully worded statement, Pelosi's office said today that she had never been briefed about the use of waterboarding, only that it had been approved by Bush administration lawyers as a legal technique to use in interrogations.

"As this document shows, the Speaker was briefed only once, in September 2002. The briefers described these techniques, said they were legal, but said that waterboarding had not yet been used," said Brendan Daly, Pelosi's spokesman.

Pelosi's statement did not address whether she was informed that other harsh techniques were already in use during the Zubaydah interrogations.

In December 2007 the Washington Post reported that leaders of the House and Senate intelligence committees had been briefed in the fall of 2002 about waterboarding -- which simulates drowning -- and other techniques, and that no congressional leaders protested its use. At the time Pelosi said she was not told that waterboarding was being used, a position she stood by repeatedly last month when the Bush-era Justice Department legal documents justifying the interrogation tactics were released by Attorney General Eric Holder.

The new memo shows that intelligence officials were willing to share the information about waterboarding with only a sharply closed group of people. Three years after the initial Pelosi-Goss briefing, Bush officials still limited interrogation technique briefings to just the chairman and ranking member of the House and Senate intelligence committees, the so-called Gang of Four in the intelligence world.

In October 2005, CIA officials began briefing other congressional leaders with oversight of the intelligence community, including top appropriators who provided the agency its annual funding. Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), a prisoner-of-war in Vietnam and an opponent of torture techniques, was also read into the program at that time even though he did not hold a special committee position overseeing the intelligence community.

A bipartisan collection of lawmakers have criticized the practice of limiting information to just the "Gang of Four", who were expressly forbidden from talking about the information from other colleagues, including fellow members of the intelligence committees. Pelosi and others are considering reforms that would assure a more open process for all committee members.

By Web Politics Editor  |  May 7, 2009; 7:29 PM ET
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Worthless lying B****.

RESIGN.

NOW!!!!!

Posted by: mdsinc | May 7, 2009 7:58 PM | Report abuse

As reported in ABC News, bunch of other Dems not in the Post article:

"On Feb. 4, 2003, a briefing on “enhanced interrogation techniques” for Sen. Pat Roberts, R-Kan., and Sen. John D. Rockefeller IV, D-W.Va., revealed that interrogations of Abu Zubaydah and Abd Al-Rahim Al-Nashiri were taped.

In addition, that briefing “described in considerable details” the techniques used, including “how the water board was used.”

A similar briefing the following day included Goss and Rep. Jane Harman, D-Calif., who by that time had become the top Democrat on the House intelligence committee, when Pelosi moved on to become minority leader.

The report is accompanied by a letter from CIA Director Leon Panetta to intelligence committee leaders that describes the way it was compiled: “This letter presents the most thorough information we have on dates, locations, and names of all Members of Congress who were briefed by the CIA on enhanced interrogation techniques. This information, however, is drawn from the past files of the CIA and represents [memorandums for the record] completed at the time and notes that summarized the best recollections of those individuals. In the end, you and the Committee will have to determine whether this information is an accurate summary of what actually happened. We can make the MFRs available at CIA for staff review.”

Posted by: nitewinde | May 7, 2009 8:12 PM | Report abuse

the only way to keep this issue silent is getting blood on everyone's hands who were direct/indirectly involved.

Posted by: infoshop | May 7, 2009 8:14 PM | Report abuse

See the detailed Briefing list with Dem after Dem listed here:

http://www.humanevents.com/downloads-pdfs/EIT%20Briefings.pdf

Posted by: nitewinde | May 7, 2009 8:31 PM | Report abuse


Well, is anyone surprised that many members of the political class hold themselves above the law. As far as I'm concerned, they should all be held accountable.

Posted by: protagoras | May 7, 2009 8:47 PM | Report abuse

Is Madame Speaker really stupid enough to think she can call the CIA a bunch of liars without any retribution? They were here long before her, they will be here long after her and they will protect themselves against opportunist over-botoxed politicos.

Posted by: wave41 | May 7, 2009 8:50 PM | Report abuse

Frankly, although a Democrat, I found the party's using this issue to bash Republicans morally repugnant from the beginning. Moreover, I was certain that, despite denials, some of them would have had to be briefed.

Let also us recall that the overwhelming majority of Dems signed off on the Iraq invasion, most of them without having read the relevant documents.

Neither of the two parties in the "two-party" system is looking good right now, haven't looked good for a long, long time.

Posted by: Farnaz1Mansouri1 | May 7, 2009 8:51 PM | Report abuse

"It's the Democrats' fault, because they didn't stop us!!"

Posted by: gkam | May 7, 2009 8:52 PM | Report abuse

Pelosi's behavior over the last couple of years has been downright peculiar.
This article simply states the obvious:
That there was a reason for her peculiar behavior.
Claiming to be a Democrat, while espousing the corrupt values of any old Republican, and especially while single-handedly presuming that she had the authority to prevent the very impeachment for which impeachment itself was invented, all this made a very bad smell, which any human being with a functioning brain was aware of.
Why we had to wait until now to see this in the press is anybody's guess.
My personal guess is that the same Republicans are behind today's Congressional decisions as were behind them during the Bush maladministration, and Pelosi is as much on their payroll as Bush was.

Posted by: wardropper | May 7, 2009 8:52 PM | Report abuse

this is why the lying, backstabbing Obama has joined the rest of the war criminals in protecting the Bush gang agaisnt prosecution,i.e., we'd have to arrest the Dem leaders of Congress also.

Posted by: dochi1 | May 7, 2009 8:53 PM | Report abuse


There is no honor among thieves.

And, unfortunately, no honor among most politicians, especially those who make a career of it; ala Ms. Pelosi.

Posted by: LAWPOOL | May 7, 2009 8:53 PM | Report abuse

I don't understand why you people are so surprised.

You just refuse to believe when you are been told about what your 'representatives' do and don't do. You wait until it's too late.

EACH AND EVERY SINGLE senator knew what was going on and APPROVED it. It's common sense.

They are briefed. They are informed about things that we are supposedly not capable to know because we are children. Things they say must be kept secret for 'security reasons'.

You citizens suck big time.

Posted by: sapitos44 | May 7, 2009 9:02 PM | Report abuse

Why don't we post more articles for the enemy to view in our own newspapers . This captured terrorists are from no known country and wear no uniform and thus are not allowed Geneva rights .
Then ask yourselves .."Where are all the US POWs?". After Afghanistan since 2001 and Iraq since 2003 , where are the US POWs ? The correct answer is , there are none, this sub human enemy takes no prisoners and thus why are we so worried about the rights of these fighters ?
It's a real shame that the left and this newspaper along with the NY TIMES has become source material for our enemy . As a military family I am repulsed by your treachery and the folks who post here calling for the prosecution of people who have prevented further terrorists attacks.

Posted by: skunkdad7 | May 7, 2009 9:03 PM | Report abuse

Wardropper
Get a clue dude !

Posted by: skunkdad7 | May 7, 2009 9:05 PM | Report abuse

Well I guess ALL these Dems must have been in on it,the full briefing list has more:

Nancy Pelosi
Bob Graham
John Rockefeller
Jane Harman
Harry Reid
*Full Committee
John Murtha
Evan Bayh
Russ Feingold
Diane Feinstein
Carl Levin
Barbara Mikulski

And this is just the list being briefed prior to 11/16/06 **** They have known for a very long time well before the election and are ALL still lying.

Posted by: nitewinde | May 7, 2009 9:19 PM | Report abuse

Pelosi is a liar. So is Obama and the whole bunch.
thank you idiots for voting this bunch into office.

Biggest disaster ever

epic fail

Posted by: rdb2 | May 7, 2009 9:32 PM | Report abuse

LIAR!!! Time to step down Botox Pelosi.

Posted by: sprayadhesive | May 7, 2009 9:32 PM | Report abuse

I REALLY hope that the CIA finds a way to effectively deal with Pelosi -- a way that will end her lying and arrogance once and for all . . . permanently.

Posted by: DocChuck08 | May 7, 2009 9:33 PM | Report abuse

So in other words... "Pelosi was actually FOR waterboarding before she was AGAINST waterboarding!" Typical flip-flopping, try to have it both ways, liberal. It's one thing to change your mind... but to try to have it both ways then deny your previous position is just pathetic.
http://www.UpYoursObama.com/

Posted by: UpYoursObama | May 7, 2009 9:33 PM | Report abuse

Pelosi is a Democrat only as far as it is able to increase her power base.
People whine about Reid but it's Pelosi who is the poison in the party.
She should have gone long ago.

Posted by: buzzsaw1 | May 7, 2009 9:34 PM | Report abuse

Well, she was there, but she wasn't actually listening, because she was trying to talk instead.

Posted by: davidwc | May 7, 2009 9:39 PM | Report abuse

Pelosi according to Daly is like the lady who 'only had sex the one time' and accordingly 'I'm still really a virgin'.

This TOQ ( tired old queen ) is one of the reasons a dark cloud of depression is descending on our great nation. She is not the only reason.... but her inner ugliness is disgusting.

What a role model for American women !!!

She is a disgrace to honesty and dignity.

Posted by: DeLyonGetty | May 7, 2009 9:39 PM | Report abuse

No surprize that a lying manipulative b**ch like Pelosi would eventually get caught. Probably she will claim she didn't remember, like Clinton did with the Whitewater affair. She is toast, and should be removed from office.

Posted by: sniper609 | May 7, 2009 9:39 PM | Report abuse

HOORAY!!! OVER 10,000 Signatures!!!

Join us at: w w w * THANKYOUPRESIDENTGEORGEWBUSH * C O M

Posted by: typgwb | May 7, 2009 9:40 PM | Report abuse

OH GEE, SUDDENLY AS MORE AND MORE TOP DEMOCRATS BECOME EXPOSED AS ACCESSORIES AND ENABLERS (to what I don't know, since there is no "crime" whatsoever for anyone - but whatever, we'll play their silly game), THE MORE THE RAT PARTY SUDDENLY DECIDES ITS ALL A BAD IDEA AND WANTS TO DROP IT!

If the DemocRAT Party fire bombing hundreds of thousands of civilians, women, babies, monks and school kids to death,

if the DemocRAT Party nuking hundreds of thousands of women and children, wiping out hospitals, schools and children on outings, delivering DEMOCRAT TORTURE by Thermonuclear Immolation and Radiation to innocent civilians - on multiple occasions,

if the DemocrRAT war of atrocity, massacre and savagery in Vietnam,

if the DemocRAT rounding up tens of thousands of Asian-Americans and putting them in concentration camps,

if the DemocRAT attacking the sovereign nation of Pakistan without legal authority,

If DemocRAT atrocities against Native Americans,

If all these War Crimes, and more, that have been delivered to this earth by the hand of the Democrat Party are not "War Crimes" and "Crimes Against Humanity"...

...THEN neither are advanced interrogation techniques.

Its just that simple.

Fess up to your Democrat crimes or shut your pie holes you partisan pansies.

Repeat loud and repeat often. Right back in their puss filled faces.

Posted by: C0rrupt_0_Crats | May 7, 2009 9:43 PM | Report abuse

Pelosi is a horrendous, partisan, lying, manipulative witch.

Posted by: ac7880 | May 7, 2009 9:43 PM | Report abuse

I have no problems with water boarding terrorists. It is not torture. I have grave problems with lying, hypocrisy, defamation, and treason. Nasty Pelosi and the Democrat party leadership are guilty of those sins. We need Senate committee hearings on the conduct of Democrats over the last seven years. They did all they could to destroy our war effort.

Posted by: pokenhorn | May 7, 2009 9:46 PM | Report abuse

She's about to say that it depends what you mean by "water" and "boarding". She thought it was some So. Cal. surfer dude talk. Really. Ingratiate ourselves with AQ by showing them some gnarly waves. Show them how cool, peaceful and laid back we are.

My guess is that CIA did more than a little CYA. She's lying. Code Pink knows how slippery she is.
Sigh...

Posted by: maxtel1910 | May 7, 2009 9:47 PM | Report abuse

How can you tell if Nancy Pelosi is lying? When her mouth is moving. She would sell this country down the river for fifty cents. But then again, so would 90% of the current Democrats in Congress. I'm hoping that someone in the 10% remaining will finally realize the country is in danger, and broadcast it widely.

Posted by: RightStuff | May 7, 2009 9:49 PM | Report abuse

Don't you guys understand by now? This is an outrage, criminal, impeachable offense when a Republican does it. When it's the "progressive" Dims, it's someone else's fault. You see, the corrupt biased mainstream media refuse to get out of bed with the Dims and hold them accountable. And they wonder why they are losing business rapidly.

Posted by: STomPayne | May 7, 2009 9:50 PM | Report abuse

Water boarding with doctor present to save countless lives or chop someones members off because they are fighting the great satan? Convert or die is their goal. Hmmm, are some here who post really young and haven't experienced the real world? I got news for some of you, everyone in the world doesn't share your ideals. Pelosi is a typical lying left wing nut. Surprise, surprise. Unbelievable how naive some of these post are. Letting liberal professors fill you with socialist/progressive view is great as long as you realize their eutopian world does not exist. Evil exist. Time to wake up.

Posted by: mugsy511 | May 7, 2009 9:57 PM | Report abuse

What a stupid, lying,..C##T!..Mean and clueless!!Bravo you old Ho!

Posted by: chips3 | May 7, 2009 9:58 PM | Report abuse

Pelosi should be held accountable for this blatant lie. The MSM would cover this for years if this were a Republican yet with a Democrat, crickets.

How this woman can be trusted in politics from this point on is beyond me.

Posted by: PupsMcCann | May 7, 2009 10:00 PM | Report abuse

does anyone think still Pelosi in NOT a bold faced LIAR?

Posted by: shotgunplanet | May 7, 2009 10:02 PM | Report abuse

HEY, Pelosi---STRETCH FACE!!

You FACE and YOUR MOUTH---FALSE, FALSE.

You vermin, louse.

RESIGN and GO AWAY. You and your face DISGUST ME!

BTW, I saw you in a low cut blouse. Couldn't you afford to have your chest stretched? It looks like a map of the Mississippi Delta---with all those furrows and deep lines.

YOU DISGRACE ALL AMERICANS!!!

Posted by: igorhunan | May 7, 2009 10:03 PM | Report abuse

Pelosi Lied... Freedom died

Posted by: shotgunplanet | May 7, 2009 10:04 PM | Report abuse

Her name was McGill, she called herself Lil, but everyone knew her as Nancy. OOPs

Aloha,

Nancy Peeloucy sure practices her Joseph Goebbels technique, “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it... and his second rule: “The most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly - it must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over”

nuff said

Mahalo

Posted by: Warrior07 | May 7, 2009 10:06 PM | Report abuse

Pelosi should be Baker Acted. But she will likely employ the Bill Clinton playbook tactic of "it depends on what 'is' is. Seriously, she must be forced to resign. Isn't their any accountability in our government anymore. I mean, we even have a party that hires and now funds election thugs like ACORN. Obama and this adminstration are a disgrace. President Narcissist has not told the truth about anything. Not one thing. Campaign fund sources, earmarks, lobbyists, pork spending for political payback, 5 day vetting by the public on budget bills.....it is a bunch of lies. And the press looks the other way. Huffington Post has NOT even printed anything about the Pelosi disgrace. Just shows you what America is up against. A bunch of Fascists bankrupting our country for their own power, control and financial gain. As for Michelle, ...for the first time in my life I am ashamed to be an American. Impeach Pelosi and Obama.

Posted by: aroleflin | May 7, 2009 10:06 PM | Report abuse

Well, the good part is that this particular witch hunt is over!

Posted by: scott3 | May 7, 2009 10:07 PM | Report abuse

HEY STRETCH PALEO-LOUSY:

Waterboarding a few muslim killers is NOT torture.

Having you as the Speaker of the House---THAT IS TORTURE!! Seeing your face, and your furrowed, ugly wrinkled chest--- from FACELIFTS R US---THAT IS TORTURE!!

If we did not have Eric "THE RED" Holder as Atty General, you would be in stocks, and on your way to prison.

LIAR!

RESIGN!

Posted by: igorhunan | May 7, 2009 10:07 PM | Report abuse

PupsMcCann,"How this woman can be trusted in politics from this point on is beyond me."

Who trusted her to begin with? Who trusted any of the Dems? Reid, Frank, Murtha, Dodd, Kennedy, Obama et al are liars. The progressives lie,cheat and steal their way into power to accomplish their agenda.

Posted by: mugsy511 | May 7, 2009 10:07 PM | Report abuse

Let me get this straight. Desperate Conservatives who applauded the Bush Gangs approval of these techniques, are condemning Nancy for knowing about them and not telling, even though she was forbidden by law to do so? Seems like your protests - like your principals - are a bit misguided.

Posted by: rhahn2 | May 7, 2009 10:08 PM | Report abuse

So, are all those worthless hags from Code Pink going to hold sit-ins at Damascus Nan's office? Or will she get a free pass because she is a pro-abortion woman and that is all that really matters.

Posted by: kmne68 | May 7, 2009 10:10 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps Nancy Pelosi can claim that she did not know about the EITs because she has mastered Orwell's 1984 art of doublethink, which is to hold two contradictory thoughts simultaneously in ones mind while believing both to be true.

Posted by: panhead101 | May 7, 2009 10:10 PM | Report abuse

One Big Ass Mistake America. Not only him but the vermin that goes with him

Posted by: OleGunny | May 7, 2009 10:13 PM | Report abuse

The problem is not that they had to keep this information secret at the time briefed.

The problem is that there is no reason to LIE now and the DEMS involved have made a conscious decision to LIE about wether they were ever briefed at all !

That is what makes a LIE a LIE, when you LIE and know your LYING is bad enough but to know your LYING and still LIE after getting caught is just crazy.

Posted by: nitewinde | May 7, 2009 10:13 PM | Report abuse

NO, NO, NO!!
Nancy, please don`t resign! We need you and Harry Reid to continue to help our beloved President Obama resurrect the Republican party. Besides, if you left, who would we laugh at every morning?

Posted by: CDNassif | May 7, 2009 10:13 PM | Report abuse

There MUST be a criminal investigation of this liar.

Posted by: EWGSHL | May 7, 2009 10:14 PM | Report abuse

My guess is this is Hussein using the CIA to pull on Pelosi dog leash to show her who is boss. Maybe the CIA will do something to save America like leak the marxist's BC.

Posted by: Franc33432 | May 7, 2009 10:16 PM | Report abuse

The Democrats did the same thing with the Iraq War as this EIT deal - agree with Bush initially, and then turn on him and paint him as a monster/warmonger.

Watch Hilary on March 6, 2003 make the case for attacking Iraq based on pre-Bush intelligence from her husband Bill's admin:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYATbsu2cP8

Then, Obama ran against Hilary, McCain and Bush largely on his superior judgment in being against the Iraq War- he was not in Congress or Senate; then once elected he appoints guess who to be point person in his administration on foreign policy!! Yes, your Sec of State, Hilary. whatever

The press was and is so in the tank for Obama and Democrats, they turn a blind eye to all the hypocrisy. BTW, they were so quiet in opposing the Iraq War for one reason, Democrats were taking them aside and telling them the intelligence on the WMD was really there and Bush was not making it up. They told the media it was old intelligence that pre-dated Bush and IT WAS!! Slam dunk George Tenet CIA director was a Clinton appointee. He wimped out too, turning on Bush.
This isn't just politics either - we could have won that Iraq War years ago if we had been united. Real soldiers lives at stake.

Posted by: evanpastor | May 7, 2009 10:16 PM | Report abuse

rhahn2, I got news for you, the left wing is in full display now and are intoxicated with power. This is a great thing for America, because they are showing the lying, vicious scumbags they are. The majority is still conservative and you will see them take the country back soon. If Pelosi admitted to knowing and accepting to protect the country I would have more respect for her. But with her it's about power and not the country.

Posted by: mugsy511 | May 7, 2009 10:17 PM | Report abuse

Pelosi should not resign.
She should "Hang herself" the way the DC Madam Deborah Palfrey & her callgirl Brandy Britton "Did."
Ask Gary Condit how.

Posted by: rickahyatt | May 7, 2009 10:18 PM | Report abuse

Nancy, Dearest, its extremely difficult not to go with my base instincts and spew justifiable venom at you. Instead, I propose those poor fellows from Gitmo be released in San Francisco and invited to tea with you on Sundays.

Posted by: go_figure | May 7, 2009 10:19 PM | Report abuse

Botox must affect the memory. Californians, please, THINK when you go to polls.

Posted by: clayp72 | May 7, 2009 10:19 PM | Report abuse

Let me get this straight. Desperate Conservatives who applauded the Bush Gangs approval of these techniques, are condemning Nancy for knowing about them and not telling, even though she was forbidden by law to do so? Seems like your protests - like your principals - are a bit misguided.

Posted by: rhahn2 | May 7, 2009 10:08 PM

SHUT UP! Forbidden by law? Who has the misguided principals?

Posted by: gippers1 | May 7, 2009 10:20 PM | Report abuse

Pelosi is such a liar. And that is really saying something considering how much Democrats lie on a regular basis.

Posted by: bug45 | May 7, 2009 10:20 PM | Report abuse

Concerned citizens should demand that Pelosi be subjected to a water-based enhanced interrogation technique. My bet is that her memory of what she was told in those briefings would improve significantly. Meanwhile, she's a pathetic waste of space, time and air.

Posted by: Finnzport | May 7, 2009 10:21 PM | Report abuse

Just like everything else Madam Pelosi is involved with, this has a certain stink. It's really a shame members of congress enjoy the protection they do and avoid responsibility for their actions or inactions plus the lies they utter.

Posted by: kiethrich | May 7, 2009 10:22 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone Left, Right or Center really believe this Political Gargoyle. If you do stick with Loony-Tunes that's about your speed.

Posted by: ALL-AMERICAN1 | May 7, 2009 10:22 PM | Report abuse

Some of you (like gkam--always a pleasure to see you here) attack the strawman view that Pelosi's culpability is being used to excuse the Bush Administration's conduct. Wrong. What she did or didn't do about what she knew or didn't know has no bearing on the culpability of the former administration. It might be relevant to her culpability, although I doubt she has any. It is definitely relevant to her ability to claim the moral high ground, which she now cannot do. She can just shut her mouth and let someone who was not briefed take up that cause. Sorry, Nan, you have to sit this one out.

Posted by: Compared2What | May 7, 2009 10:22 PM | Report abuse

Aloha rhahn2, Desperate Conservatives???

I think "Amused Conservatives" is a better description. We don't hate like our Liberal Counterparts. We don't practice charactor assassination like our Liberal counterparts.

We stand amazed at the number of Liberal Jerks who can't let go of W or Dick C., and amused that they aren't aware of the disaster the USA is headed for under the guise of "Change U can Believe."

Conservatives will always survive, its in our genes. Liberals are like, lemmings always looking for a judas goat to lead them over the cliff, into victemhood...and we enjoy watching the debacle that always occurs under liberal, dare I say it, leadership(?).

Mahalo

Posted by: Warrior07 | May 7, 2009 10:24 PM | Report abuse

"Well lets take a long look at that Briefing list of Dems that were briefed and to this day keep lying about it:

Nancy Pelosi
Bob Graham
John Rockefeller
Jane Harman
Harry Reid
*Full Committee
John Murtha
Evan Bayh
Russ Feingold
Diane Feinstein
Carl Levin
Barbara Mikulski

And this is just the list being briefed prior to 11/16/06 **** They have known for a very long time well before the election."

Nitepost.

Thats allot of Democrats who should be investigated on what they knew and when they knew it.

Posted by: PupsMcCann | May 7, 2009 10:25 PM | Report abuse

We should send Obama and all the left wingnuts to California and close the borders with Nevada, Arizona and Oregon. Let them live their and party in their own eutopia. That will keep the rest of us safe. lol

Posted by: mugsy511 | May 7, 2009 10:25 PM | Report abuse

If it is torture, and that word does not appear from journalism, is it torture? Is journalism hedging its bets?

Who is the final arbiter of the term, international law, our own law? What do our laws say, what does international law say?

Ought journalism not be reporting that?

Posted by: khmaio | May 7, 2009 10:39 PM | Report abuse

SURPRISE SURPRISE, PELOSI IS A LIAR! THIS IS A DUMMIE THAT CANNOT TELL TRUTH FROM HER FICTION SO LYING FOR HER IS PATHLOGICAL. SHE NEEDS TO BE WATERBOARDED DAILY TO REVEAL HER DECPTIONS, FRAUD AND CORRUPTION THAT IS HER NORMAL ACTION. SHE MAKES ALL DEMS LOOK BAD AND THE SPEAKER'S POSITION A JOKE. KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK NANCY! JUST LIKE YOUR MAFIA PAPA!!!

Posted by: jblosage | May 7, 2009 10:40 PM | Report abuse

Nancy Pelosi is a lying sack of sh&tt. Yu know it, I know it, she knows it...get rid of this evil witch!!!!!!
It will all come back and bite Obama in the butt...he is cut from the same cloth. They will all get there's and it won't be pretty!

Posted by: anaf | May 7, 2009 10:44 PM | Report abuse

I don't care what side of the aisle you fall on, playing political games on this subject like that is as reprehensible as it gets. Her flat out denials that we all now know to be outright lies speak for themselves. Look politics is a dirty business, and I can understand trying to play for political points on issues like healthcare or gun control. But this is our very safety and the safety of all our honorable men and women that put their lives on the line every day for us. Just despicable. And just for the record, Sarah Palin's son is one of those brave men serving in our armed forces. I know The Left's opinion of them is rather condescending (considering they brand them as potential "right wing extremists), and I know she's a "joke", but at least she's got skin in the game. It's incredibly hard for The Left to give her credit for anything but hopefully we can all at least acknowledge that.

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Posted by: myangryelephant | May 7, 2009 10:44 PM | Report abuse

The corrupt politician and career criminal, Nancy Pelosi, was elected to Congress from San Francisco with only 149,000 votes (2006 Election), not enough to get elected as Mayor of New York (754,000 votes in 2005). Nonetheless, this traitor is arguably the most powerful woman in the world. Meanwhile the US Main Sewer Media permits her to act as if she has been elected to represent the United States of America. No – I did not vote for her, nor did 122 MILLION (non-San Franciscan) voters that voted in the 2004 Presidential election, 62 MILLION of which voted for George W. Bush.

Posted by: Americanus | May 7, 2009 10:46 PM | Report abuse

The only difference between a democrat and a republican politician is the route to power. The desire to rule is the same.

If we allow these people who desire power at any cost to rule, we get what we deserve...

"Same as the old boss"

Posted by: NoRespect | May 7, 2009 10:46 PM | Report abuse

Wag your finger again, Nancy! Say it LOUDER, Nancy! "I did not sex with that waterboard ..."

Posted by: WilliamJB | May 7, 2009 10:48 PM | Report abuse

Wouldn't it be nice if the enemy waterboarded our soldiers and then we could trade our captives for their captives. Why is this crap crazy? Do we want Americans to be saints when the enemy does not take captives alive. How could we be so stupid and how can Obama have credibility when he is a liar and a traitor.

Posted by: rick1013 | May 7, 2009 10:48 PM | Report abuse

These Dems are all Liars and will say anything to get and keep power...

Now Wash Post tell the world that these same Dem Liars are the morons who ran the economy into the ground with their manipulation of the mortgage system (Fann/Freddie) and the banks with their social engineering scheme to give loans to illegals and those who could ill afford them. The dem Congress ran the budget for two years before the election and this is THEIR mess. This is a DEM ECONOMY.

The press should be shot for treason for it's refusal to tell the people the truth about the economy and much else.
Let's watch the MSM ignore this tonight.

Someone at the the Washington Post have awakened to realize what this koolade press is doing to the country, their 401K's and future generations.

Posted by: Meme27 | May 7, 2009 10:52 PM | Report abuse

As a person who feels this whole approach to criminalize the Bush admin's actions is greatly misguided, I am very happy that Pelosi was briefed and then lied about it. This witch hunt is now over.

Its especially sweet to see how even the most "profound" moral concerns of the Democrats will be quickly swept aside as one of the chosen ones is threatened.

This will be all the proof I need that concerns about torture were really just rancor against the Bush Admin.

Its just too bad that these people have seriously misled the American people. They used shabby sophistry to call into question the morality of those that protect this country and saved thousands of lives. The media is complicit in this libel.


Posted by: scott3 | May 7, 2009 10:53 PM | Report abuse

I know she is lying I saw her lips moving...... As long as she is running the House this type of leadership will continue!

Posted by: rgroce | May 7, 2009 10:55 PM | Report abuse

You're surprised here?

2002: The Democrats voted for the war, because thats what the polls told them to do.

2006: The Democrats campaigned against the war, because thats what the polls told them to do.

Nancy was for waterboarding before she was against it.

Typical liberal hypocrite. She'll do and say anything to get her and fellow Democrats elected and keep them there.

And the American people trusted Democrats with national security???

They'll abandon the troops in the field if it gets them votes.

Posted by: RaiderDan | May 7, 2009 10:58 PM | Report abuse

It is clear that Pelosi knew what was going on and did not object. No matter what she now says, she is simply trying to appease her far left constituents by lying about what she knew. Obama and his cabal of DC leftists are putting this country in ever greater danger day by day. The so-called torture issue is small potatoes when it is compared to the massive budget cuts in our national defense budget. The real question is, "Do you feel safer now, or did you feel safer two years ago?" I felt a lot safer two years ago when I had a president who really cared about our national security and who made no apologies about it.

Posted by: PatrickCurry | May 7, 2009 10:58 PM | Report abuse

Is this the same Nancy Pelosi that constantly trashed George Bush calling him every slanderous name in the book. Is this the same Nancy Pelosi who is the democratic house speaker who has all the power in the world....she tell the president what to do.....but the Pope chewed out her liberal rearend. Is this the same Nancy Pelosi that has a lifetime supply of botox. If this is then she needs to catch a bus or rent a car and go back to the left coast

Posted by: drcusmc | May 7, 2009 10:58 PM | Report abuse

Republicans are very confused. I am a life long Democrat. I think I can speak for every other Democrat when I say that if Nancy Pelosi gave the OK for torture, she should go to jail. Repugnicans don't get it. They are so loyal to their party, they want to give their "leaders" a free pass outside the law. Dems don't think their leaders are Gods, and if they break laws, SEND 'EM TO JAIL. Repugnocrats, on the other hand, seem to idolize their leaders, and, unlike Dems, if their leaders break laws, they don't seek their dismissal and incarceration. Refusicans rearrange the American Experiment such that their leaders are not constrained by legal codes and laws, because what they do they do "from the heart." Dems believe that corrupt pols, of any stripe, need to go to jail, hence the idea of releasing papers etc.

Posted by: owlk | May 7, 2009 11:00 PM | Report abuse

WHAT? Nancy was lying? Whoda thunk it?? I'll have to listen to NPR and see if this really is true...

Posted by: fourechodog | May 7, 2009 11:01 PM | Report abuse

TERM LIMITS, TERM LIMITS, TERM LIMITS!!!! Two terms then throw the bums OUT!!!!

This country did not vote for Ms Pelosi. She does not represent this country. She represents San Francisco.

THROW THE BUMS OUT!!!!!!!

Posted by: bobster01 | May 7, 2009 11:03 PM | Report abuse

OWLK,

Don't hold your breath.

There may be a DEM that is held to task, but all the DEMS briefed that LIED on this won't be held legally accountable.

Posted by: nitewinde | May 7, 2009 11:05 PM | Report abuse

Pelosi? Intelligence Committee? Mickey Mouse's dog, Pluto, would have been a far better choice.

We are in the very best of hands.

It would be appropriate for the Speaker of the House to report San Fran Nan to the Ethics Committee for lying to Americans.

Oh, yeah, San Fran Nan IS the Speaker of the House. And the Ethics Committee is just for show, created and manipulated by San Fran Nan herself.

Plus, a politician who lies to Americans isn't committing an "ethical" violation, anyway. Lying politicians are just SOP.

Indeed, Pelosi is likely up for a Whopper award, or at least some wall certificate, for her sustained lying under pressure.

Posted by: JRS2U | May 7, 2009 11:05 PM | Report abuse

This lady knows all about torture techniques--and your little dog, too.

Posted by: vlscpa | May 7, 2009 11:08 PM | Report abuse

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!! We need to clean house in 2010. I'll do my part by voting against Dodd (I voted for him when I live in CT and I'm moving back there later this year) but you people in MA (Franks) and CA (Pelosi) and PA (Murtha) and all over the country have to do your part too.

Posted by: daleinfl | May 7, 2009 11:09 PM | Report abuse

These days with all the gaping wounds in politics and the media I can't help but ask 'Who would want to be a politician anyway?'
Then I see the likes of Nancy Pelosi and realize we all need to be politicians and give her a year to get the hell out of Dodge!What an unabashed embarassment.

Posted by: rmoorejr30 | May 7, 2009 11:10 PM | Report abuse

suck it Dumb-o-rats.

Posted by: DrPearl | May 7, 2009 11:13 PM | Report abuse

If the Dems want to bring this stuff then the information that they had their hands in it every step of the way will also come out. They agreed with every decision Bush made from going to war to torture. There is no differance between them and Bush except Bush was more honest. You always knew where he stood on issues.

Posted by: jschmidt2 | May 7, 2009 11:13 PM | Report abuse

It should be no surprise to anyone with a brain, Pelosi is a liar and should resign. She makes me sick every time I see her ugly mug . She is a disgrace to this country.

Posted by: BC1358 | May 7, 2009 11:13 PM | Report abuse

Need I remind everyone that Madam Speaker is a mother and a grandmother and she runs "the most ethical" Congress in history.

Posted by: Captain_Universe | May 7, 2009 11:14 PM | Report abuse

Are you telling me you wouldn't do whatever was necessary to prevent another attack that killed thousands of Americans? I would, and most people who answer honestly would as well. I would torture every terrorist on the planet to save one member of my family. If you say you wouldn't you are either lying or an idiot.

Posted by: rho1953 | May 7, 2009 11:17 PM | Report abuse

Hey Pelosi, you are an evil, lying, B**CH. I guess if we're going to put people in jail for "torturing" terrorists, you better pack your bags. You'll look good in an orange jumpsuit.

If waterboarding, bugs, loud music, sleep deprivation, etc. are "torture", LONG LIVE TORTURE!!

Posted by: mabco | May 7, 2009 11:18 PM | Report abuse

Well, poor old Mrs. Pelosi! Seems she’s having some trouble with all those smart-alecky CIA types. But, you know, she did set the Pope straight about the Catholic Church’s teachings, so I guess she’ll be up to putting those pesky spooks in their rightful place as well. Personally, I have no trouble believing that she really doesn’t know anything, at all. Behind you all the way, dear!

Posted by: CommissionerGordon | May 7, 2009 11:20 PM | Report abuse

To all of you worthless twits out there - please be comforted in knowing that when your daughter is being hidden and repeatedly raped by terrorists, I'll still be willing to waterboard these terrorist SCUM until I find out where they have put her and save her life. You can still hide behind your gutless paper walls with the rest of your ilk and criticize me later.

And if you don't believe that it is effective, please let me know where and when to meet you and I'll prove to you how effective it is.

You worthless wasteoids make me want to barf.

Posted by: GJMaxwell | May 7, 2009 11:20 PM | Report abuse

Nancy Pelosi - Catholic Grandmother -the abortionists and perverts best friend - this denial is just a minor lie for Pelosi-California and New York - 2 liberal bastions living off almost (red states anyhow)every other state that has the ability to say no to its bum population -way to go Nancy - you are one of the reason for the Catholic Church's decline - is this lying degenerate thieving bum really speaker? God help us

Posted by: texasdude | May 7, 2009 11:21 PM | Report abuse

Maybe Pelosi has dementia? That could explain why she doesn't remember. Or maybe she is just a liar. Either way, who would want this lady responsible for our country's defense.

Posted by: RezkoLot | May 7, 2009 11:23 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Gipper,
Seems like YOUR post is screwy. We conservatives are condemning Pelosi for joining in on the current witchhunt to bring down those "nasty republicans" when all along she herself was privy to the intelligence data as well. Then she acts so surprised. The democratic party is SO righteous and the beacon of moral justice!! She simply saw it as another political ploy to try to destroy the republican party and she got caught. Typical democrat!

Posted by: gcatman | May 7, 2009 11:25 PM | Report abuse


THE MEDIA WILL NOT DO JUSTICE TO THIS ISSUE BECAUSE THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS TO THEM IS TH "D" BEHIND PELOSI'S NAME.

RIGHT/WRONG; LEGAL/ILLEGAL; ETHICAL/UNETHICAL; MORAL/IMMORAL.....DOESN'T MATTER TO THE MEDIA. ONLY IF YOU HAVE A "D" BEHIND YOUR NAME. NOW THAT'S PROFFESSIONALISM!

Posted by: KPSMITH1 | May 7, 2009 11:25 PM | Report abuse

Thank God we waterboarded the 3 terrorists and saved Los Angeles LIFES now these gd LIARS should resign immediately.
How many other foney fraud budget bills will they shove through in the middle of the night with obama thugs.

Nancy Pelosi
Bob Graham
John Rockefeller
Jane Harman
Harry Reid
*Full Committee
John Murtha
Evan Bayh
Russ Feingold
Diane Feinstein
Carl Levin
Barbara Mikulski

Reid and Pelloski you are 2 of the biggest gd LIARS right along with obama.
Stop obama before he gets all the hard working middle clas taxpayers killed.
WHY DO DEMOCRATS HATE HARD WORKING MIDDLE CLASS TAXPAYERS??????????

Posted by: bobojake | May 7, 2009 11:28 PM | Report abuse

Hey Compared2What - The problem with saying this only reflects on Pelosi and no one else is that she was called into the EIT briefings as leader and spokesperson of the Dems! She signed off on the EITs and so the Bush admin proceeded thinking there was bipartisan permission. Now the Dems turn on Bush and have the gall to WANT TO THROW HIM IN JAIL for something Pelosi approved. So why aren't you all wanting to throw her into jail for war crimes too!

Posted by: evanpastor | May 7, 2009 11:28 PM | Report abuse

Matt Drudge has a scorching case of herpes.

Posted by: islamofashionista | May 7, 2009 11:28 PM | Report abuse

How did we end up with a sociopath as the speaker of the house of representatives? Did the same people who backed Pelosi also back Obama? That would be telling, wouldn't it?

Posted by: fraccle | May 7, 2009 11:32 PM | Report abuse

Pelosi probably confused the briefings with the Folsom Street Fair.

Posted by: john92124 | May 7, 2009 11:34 PM | Report abuse

There are no checks and balances in government any more. Democrats can and will do whatever they want.

Posted by: pkhenry | May 7, 2009 11:34 PM | Report abuse

owlk - you need to read what people write and not argue against straw men. We are not wanting to give Repub leaders a pass. We don't think waterboarding is or was against the law or torture. So oif Dems really believe WB is torture, where is their legislation that forbids torturing our own troops? You do realize we waterboard our own troops to toughen them up, don't you? We don't think it is torture. Neither did Pelosi back in the day when every politician was trying to get on board the anti-terrorism train.

Posted by: evanpastor | May 7, 2009 11:38 PM | Report abuse

Most people do not define the "enhanced interrogation techniques" as torture. These techniques did prevent additional attacks on the USA. These procedures did protect all of us.

Too many politicians lie to us including Nancy Pelosi. They all should be voted out in the next election.

Posted by: lllh | May 7, 2009 11:39 PM | Report abuse

Prepare for more attacks!

Posted by: rhettbutler11225 | May 7, 2009 11:41 PM | Report abuse

Time to vote them all out - now! Except for Ron Paul and a few other decent folks who realize that it is their duty to serve the people and uphold the Constitution. Not the other way around!

Posted by: gouZgounis | May 7, 2009 11:42 PM | Report abuse

Its obvious this woman is a dishonest witch. Its always been obvious. But the press was so star struck by the ' historic" symbolism of the first female speaker they ignored her lies. Same mistake they are making with Obama.

Posted by: dencal26 | May 7, 2009 11:42 PM | Report abuse

Democratic Senator Ted Kennedy invented water boarding on July 18, 1969.

He tried it out at Chappaquiddick, and just forgot to pull the victim back up.

Posted by: pkhenry | May 7, 2009 11:43 PM | Report abuse

Its always dirty partisan politics with these Dems. Never truth and honesty. Just like most of them voted for the War in Iraq then tried to spin their way out of it.

Posted by: dencal26 | May 7, 2009 11:44 PM | Report abuse

Is anyone else sick and tired of being lied to by the lowlifes who have taken over our government? These pigs never change. It doesn't matter if they are democrats or republicans. They are the same arrogant bastards who lie to us, take our money, and build their personal wealth plus the wealth oft he people who empower them. And I don't mean the voters. Voters have been disenfranchised. Pelosi and her ilk are liars and theives. This is blatant corruption.

Posted by: rachaeldubois77 | May 7, 2009 11:44 PM | Report abuse

Holder answers directly to Obama. Obama is putting her in check, but for what? Holder follows orders. She's been hung out to dry, and don't get me wrong, its been along time coming. But i'm afraid of the larger agenda. What possibly does she stand in the way of, that Obama can't already have? Someone please explain. A Liberal taking out another Liberal when they have a super majority. Lets just print another trillion dollars and they'll get over it and be happy.

Posted by: ray4971 | May 7, 2009 11:45 PM | Report abuse

LETS SHOW THE WORLD THAT THE MEDIA WAS WORNG!!!

www.thankyoupresidentgeorgewbush.com

www.thankyoupresidentgeorgewbush.com

www.thankyoupresidentgeorgewbush.com

Posted by: typgwb | May 7, 2009 11:46 PM | Report abuse

Americans are as sick of being lied to and shafted by Pelosi, Reid, Frank, etc., as we are sick of the Bush Admin raping us. The people who run Washington are rotten to the core.

RESIGN, NOW! They should be in jail for fraud and corruption.

Posted by: rachaeldubois77 | May 7, 2009 11:47 PM | Report abuse

LETS SHOW THE WORLD THAT THE LIBERAL MEDIA WAS WORNG!!! EACH SIGNATURE WILL PISS OFF THE REST OF THE WORLD THAT LIVES IN THE LAND OF OZ WHILE WE PROTECTED THE WORLD FROM EVIL OVER THE LAST 8 YEARS...

http://www.thankyoupresidentgeorgewbush.com/

http://www.thankyoupresidentgeorgewbush.com/

http://www.thankyoupresidentgeorgewbush.com/

Posted by: typgwb | May 7, 2009 11:48 PM | Report abuse

Could it be that Pelosi really is just as stupid as she sounds?

Posted by: Atlas_Shrugging | May 7, 2009 11:48 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: typgwb | May 7, 2009 11:49 PM | Report abuse

She should be forced to resign for ethics violations and also congress should have its pay cut by 50% including its expense allowances for staff and office!!

Please contact your congressman or state to start the pay cuts and resignation of Ms Speaker!

Posted by: randall6666 | May 7, 2009 11:50 PM | Report abuse

Why is Pelosi so rich?
Duh.

Posted by: rachaeldubois77 | May 7, 2009 11:50 PM | Report abuse

Her ascent to Speaker of the house is a testemonial to the ignorance of the American electorate.
I have no problem with her approving harsh interragations after 9/11.That was a reasonable reaction after a shocking event.
Her retraction from the truth since then is what is most damning.We know she approved of it,but she's worried about her constituancy back on alpha centauri.Most of America is very little like San fransisco and she should realize that. As speaker;she doesnt just represent and serve only the beautiful,artsy,or special..she represents us ugly guys that have never been to the theata'...you know-the good ole' boys that actually earn the money she spends all day.
She's an embarrasing dodo bird and even the left knows it.
And that guy that puts "democRAT" 50 times in his msg on this thread is an embarrasing dodo bird as well.You all should start thinking clearly or they'll start thinking for you.


Posted by: donttread | May 7, 2009 11:54 PM | Report abuse

It is OK. Pelosi is from San Francisco and they tell nontruths all of the time there.

Posted by: yokohlman | May 7, 2009 11:56 PM | Report abuse

Wow! Another politician lied to protect themselves! Incredible!
Term limits should be installed, she is a disgrace. What is most disappointing to me is how a very promising president like Obama is swept into this dysfunctional, broken system. Pelosi, Feinstein and Harman are corrupt dinosaurs and are gumming up the progress. Time to step aside.

Posted by: Louweegie272 | May 7, 2009 11:57 PM | Report abuse

"I was just following orders" is never an excuse for an immoral or illegal act. "I was acting to save lives" should fall into the same category. The guys pouring the water. The guys writing the memos. They knew what they were doing was immoral and illegal. They need to be charged and punished. To the extent that members of congress knew and looked the other way...there were a lot of Germans after WWII who "didn't know" what was going on at the camps. So we need to hold Pelosi to the standard of those who were guilty of looking the other way or pretending ignorance. But that shouldn't be a smoke screen for those who were concious and deliberate in their evil actions. (Especially when there is a good chance that these "techniques" were used to produce false confessions, which became part of the "cherry picked", faith-based intelligence about WMD and so forth that caused us to waste six years in Iraq instead of pursuing the actual war in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

Posted by: wthu | May 7, 2009 11:58 PM | Report abuse

Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely!
Never has this country seen the type of deception and fraud of this present administration and the leaders of the House and Senate. This woman (and I use the term lightly) has no shame or conscience - she is pure evil! Goodbye Pelosi, Reid and Dodd - if this country has any moral bearing you will not see another sucessful election - if you do there may be no hope for this country.
The three of you should be in prison for the rest of your lives!!!

Posted by: prandyk | May 7, 2009 11:59 PM | Report abuse

can you imagine what the terrorists think of us. They cut off heads, we can't raise our voices to them. what a hoot.

Posted by: RazzWV | May 7, 2009 11:59 PM | Report abuse

Bush and company SHOULD be arrested and prosecuted!! The charge? Failing to arrest and execute the democrats in congress and the DNC and soros.

Posted by: starvingactor | May 7, 2009 11:59 PM | Report abuse

Probably the least qualified and least effective speaker, certainly within my lifetime. Palosi has also proven to be totally without honor. I suppose its only appropriate that she is speaker during the administration of the least qualified President in history.

Posted by: torstad | May 8, 2009 12:00 AM | Report abuse

I'm 64 years old and can truthfully tell you that the ethics bar has been so lowered that it's no longer unethical to lie and even swere to it!

I've always said that a politician is a cross between a used car salesman and TV evangelist.

Posted by: djsteil | May 8, 2009 12:00 AM | Report abuse

The truly funny part of this entire episode is the defense we see of Pelosi. As a conservative and former military man, I think that water boarding is fairly tame and is in no way shape or form out of line with the values of America. This is war and we have to be mean at times. If you are so morally bankrupt that you can't discern the difference between us and the terrorists then I am sure you disagree with water boarding. You aren't able to distinguish between good and evil. You find reasons to justify the behavior of the terrorists because to judge them is evil in you mind. So quipping over water boarding just shows that your moral compass is broken. No means justify America so you argue the terrorists side every time. Morally, the practice does not harm them physically and forces them to give us information against their will. They have conducted themselves in horrendous ways and do so because they have no morals and no fear of retribution. To argue that water boarding or other interrogation techniques lower our moral standing is to argue that freedom has no worth or value. When the freedom and life of your fellow citizens has no more worth to you than the value of the terrorists life and freedom, you have removed all value from your country.

But the real humor is the defense of the lies of your leaders. As a conservative, I am my leader. I believe that I lead my life. I don't look to others to lead me. Therefore when they lie to me, I have no problem throwing them out. Take Larry Craig and the republican party, they tossed him as they should have. But the democrat party needs a leader to follow. So they back their leader, lies and all because they must have someone to lead them and call leader.

Posted by: Quek | May 8, 2009 12:03 AM | Report abuse

Kudos to the Post for running this story. I doubt there will be much condemnation of Princess Pelosi since her heart is in the right place on most issues. The same immunity applies to Barney Frank(sub prime meltdown), Chris Dodd(same), Harry Reid(Nevada land transactions), and Lord Obama(foreign campaign contributions).

Posted by: CowboyDiplomat | May 8, 2009 12:03 AM | Report abuse

well i hope all the jack a^%$ that constantly railed on bush see the democrats for what they are. most dont care about america. every thing thay do is for political. 9/11 showed they had no answer for bush. then they used there rule 12 of there manifesto. when confronted by a opponent do not face him destroy the person. for the last 4yrs that is all they have done. they had no answer for a man who actually worries about america. the last 8yrs not one terrorist has been able to stage a 9/11 type action. why because bush actually had people 24/7 investigating . we took there money outlets out, and safe havens. iraq and afghanistan. they all scurried into the mountains like rats. mow we have a president who cant talk without a teleprompter and telling eveyone our tactics and now no response you are safe to operate just dont hit america. in one swift action the administartion has wasted 8yrs of safety. he can never look you in the face while speaking. hence the teleprompter. when a attack happens and it will the 52% that voted for him will look in a mirror and say i caused this. actually 38% of all democratic votes come from welfare people. so in actuallity republicans account for 48% of educated people while democrats only account for a paltry 14% of producers. which means americas goverment is voted in by people who cant read or produce. they rely on republicans to pay there bills without producing nothing for america, just more fmilies that rely on the producers.

Posted by: carl6352 | May 8, 2009 12:07 AM | Report abuse

how could we ever get the truth out of her.....hmmmmm...?

Posted by: vic4 | May 8, 2009 12:09 AM | Report abuse

I must make a comment here, I read above about how the Democrats "ALWAYS" put their perpertrators in jail. When did that ever happen?? I can recall some Repubs, that graciously resigned, a few went to jail. However, I cannot recall one Democrat in quite a while, unless you want to use Marion Berry or Spitzer, that has gone to the big house.

Another post talks about term limits. That might work for some but the power structure in congress means that no one would ever get anything for their state. Think about it. West Virginia would be so backward without all those monuments to Robert Byrd.

Just some passing thoughts. By the way Nancy P. seems to be a student of Saul Alinsky also.

Posted by: oltominAZ | May 8, 2009 12:09 AM | Report abuse

No surprise here... The dems are a bunch of liars including Obama.

The only honest person in government right now is http://twitter.com/AKGovSarahPalin

Posted by: SammyBoy1 | May 8, 2009 12:10 AM | Report abuse

Treason is a crime. We may be only able to complain now but when our elected officials take the oath of office to uphold the constitution it acyually means what it says. There will be a day of reckoning for traitors who are acting in a dangerous manner for this once great country.

Posted by: clarify | May 8, 2009 12:13 AM | Report abuse

Nancy Pelosi lies. Obama is busy gutting the pentagon budget, just like Clinton did.

This from middle America: I do not give a rat's behind what is done to terrorists. I remember 9/11 and the people jumping out of 100 story windows. Whatever is done to terrorists is not bad enough.

Posted by: jilliangood | May 8, 2009 12:14 AM | Report abuse

Like Nancy hasn't proven herself to be a big fat liar before! She should be SACKED!

Posted by: schratboy | May 8, 2009 12:14 AM | Report abuse

Ms. Pelosi has been an obedient tool of the Left for decades and just our luck, she assumes power just when we need her least.

California even beats Massachussetts in supplying the country with pathetic hacks. What delegation surpasses such corrupt, dirty corruptocrats like Pelosi, Pete Stark, Waxman, Miller, Maxine Waters, Feinstein, Boxer, Woolsey and about 20 other pols who want to spend the US into oblivion. California's chronic problems have coincided with the rise of these idiots and the supremacy out there of green nuts and public layabout unions.

Their republicans like Arnold are often as bad or worse.

The US really needs a party devoted to solid fiscal principles and no left or rightwing nannies telling us what to do.

Posted by: MrSmung | May 8, 2009 12:19 AM | Report abuse

Ms. 'P' could care less how outraged all you little people are. She really is above it all. And will tolerate the momentary rabble's anger because she's NOT going anywhere. Yeah she tried to use the issue to politicaly pander to the 'sheeple' but having that move fail & unmask her as a craven liar, besides some limited embarrassment, will not do much to her politicaly. Nancy will CONTINUE to be the Queen Bee answerable to no one!

Posted by: mbs1960 | May 8, 2009 12:20 AM | Report abuse

donttread. you hit it right on with out knowing. 38% of all democratic votes come from welfare families. if you notice the voting pattern. democrats always win ca and ny why because those 2 states constitute over 50% of all welfare recipients. most wont work cant read and have no clue what they are voting for or how to follow directions. franken great example over 400k of his votes came from people who culd not color in a circle or actully line it up to the mark. so that means that 38% of uneducated people vote in our goverment every election cycle. no brainer that our country is in so bad a shape.

Posted by: carl6352 | May 8, 2009 12:21 AM | Report abuse

Any employee of the government should be required to obey the rules for government employees. Conduct (lying to the public) is detrimental to the status of the Federal Government and warrants dismissal. We need Honest Faithful and Dedicated persons that will put America first, not their fleeting careers. No matter what party, or heritage or ethnicity they are identified with.

Posted by: kegler299 | May 8, 2009 12:22 AM | Report abuse


In Pelosi's defense, when she says she doesn't know anything, I believe her.

Posted by: WylieD | May 8, 2009 12:23 AM | Report abuse

The US government needs to be cleaned up. Our free press is not up to the task neither is our President. Our politicians have done a great job of looking out for their own selfish interests instead of what is best for America. My question to my fellow Americans is how long will we let the politicians to continue to destroy America??? Without a doubt they are not acting in the best interests of our country.

Posted by: wapoisajoke | May 8, 2009 12:24 AM | Report abuse

The only thing surprising about this story is that it ran in the Washington Post. Watch for the left to turn on Paul Kane like a pack of dogs now: "You stepped off the plantation!"

Posted by: p3orion | May 8, 2009 12:26 AM | Report abuse

I submit to you the following - In the wikipedia definition of torture the last sentence states "It does not include pain or suffering arising only from, inherent in, or incidental to, lawful sanctions." This sentence indicates that there are times when pain and suffering will be allowed when they are the product of lawful sanctions. By the president authorizing these techniques it becomes a lawful sanction. The language in the definition of torture seems to be pain and suffering produced strictly for punishment or for the satisfaction of the person performing the torture.

Posted by: triper57 | May 8, 2009 12:28 AM | Report abuse

Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive.

Posted by: rmstx | May 8, 2009 12:30 AM | Report abuse

Comrade Pelosi is a despicable lying woman. What excuse will she have now?

Posted by: mgvillablanca | May 8, 2009 12:32 AM | Report abuse

Having seen the methods employed I cannot figure how anyone could call it torture. No heads were cut off and no one's life was placed at risk other than our military's. I can only imagine what these whiners would have said if the terrorists had been forced to go on rides at some theme park or forced to jump of a bridge with bungy cords. Caterpillar torture??? Come on this whole thing is a joke and the only reason it is brought up is to impair our safety from these nut jobs!

Posted by: tempest2 | May 8, 2009 12:32 AM | Report abuse

Ms. Pelosi needs to be far more careful about what happens and what she tells. It's sort of like .........well, lets not go into such.

Posted by: jackolantyrn356 | May 8, 2009 12:33 AM | Report abuse

wthu - nice try - better than most of the weak "anti-torture" defenses here, but, your premise is the interrogators knew they were doing something evil and unlawful and ergo have no excuse. But wasn't the very purpose of the briefings and all the legal opinions to, uh, determine the legality of EITs such as waterboarding? Dude, we have WATERBOARDED our own soldiers for years and no one ever moaned about it. The reason is that it is just a headgame and does no real harm. So that is why Pelosi and all of the Democrats signed off on it back then. Think through what you are saying.In certain contexts, inflicting the maximum pain on another - for instance, shooting someone dead in the head, is not only legal, but the only moral thing to do, such as in the case of a policeman who is taking out a mass murderer. If playing a headgame on a diablolically evil fool to get them to sing and prevent the deaths of you and your family, then ... why do I even bother? You live in a naive little bubble of false love and you have absolutely no clue how to recognize evil, let alone combat it. But don't worry we got your back.

Posted by: evanpastor | May 8, 2009 12:33 AM | Report abuse

Maybe Botox but most certainly Pelosi has an overactive thyroid gland - note the bulging eyes. With most of her energy being sucked up by her thyroid gland, it explains why so little is left to operate her brain.

Posted by: edfo | May 8, 2009 12:36 AM | Report abuse

Follow the logic.

If you were briefed on waterboarding and immediately considered it an abhorrent practice, then wouldn't your very next question be ...

"Are we actually using that technique" ???

Upon which the intelligence official would answer "yes" or "no". If the answer had been "no", then Pelosi could claim today that they lied to her. Pelosi isn't saying that, so the answer must have been "yes".

Posted by: BrentW | May 8, 2009 12:36 AM | Report abuse

@rhahn2 "Let me get this straight. Desperate Conservatives who applauded the Bush Gangs approval of these techniques, are condemning Nancy for knowing about them and not telling, even though she was forbidden by law to do so? Seems like your protests - like your principals - are a bit misguided."

Approval of the techniques is not in question by conservatives. It's the hypocritical actions of people like Pelosi (and others, to be fair) who to the public condemn it and scream that they knew nothing only to be found to have lied about their foreknowledge. The outrage is not about whether or not they oppose strong interrogation techniques. The outrage is about dishonesty. Even if she couldn't speak to the subject and be a whistle-blower, she is now professing her eternal innocence by denying any knowledge well after the fact.

Posted by: bigdaddydk | May 8, 2009 12:42 AM | Report abuse

OH GEE, SUDDENLY AS MORE AND MORE TOP DEMOCRATS BECOME EXPOSED AS ACCESSORIES AND ENABLERS (to what I don't know, since there is no "crime" whatsoever for anyone - but whatever, we'll play their silly game), THE MORE THE RAT PARTY SUDDENLY DECIDES ITS ALL A BAD IDEA AND WANTS TO DROP IT!

If the DemocRAT Party fire bombing hundreds of thousands of civilians, women, babies, monks and school kids to death,

if the DemocRAT Party nuking hundreds of thousands of women and children, wiping out hospitals, schools and children on outings, delivering DEMOCRAT TORTURE by Thermonuclear Immolation and Radiation to innocent civilians - on multiple occasions,

if the DemocrRAT war of atrocity, massacre and savagery in Vietnam,

if the DemocRAT rounding up tens of thousands of Asian-Americans and putting them in concentration camps,

if the DemocRAT attacking the sovereign nation of Pakistan without legal authority,

If DemocRAT atrocities against Native Americans,

If all these War Crimes, and more, that have been delivered to this earth by the hand of the Democrat Party are not "War Crimes" and "Crimes Against Humanity"...

...THEN neither are advanced interrogation techniques.

Its just that simple.

Fess up to your Democrat crimes or shut your pie holes you partisan pansies.

Repeat loud and repeat often. Right back in their puss filled faces.


Posted by: C0rrupt_0_Crats | May 7, 2009 9:43 PM
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BEARS REPEATING, Corrupt_O_Crats. MANY Americans need to EDUCATE themselves on these FACTS.

Posted by: kedwards60093 | May 8, 2009 12:43 AM | Report abuse

Nancy must have been sitting on her dildo during the briefings. Much as she did during the state of the union address.

Posted by: 49er | May 8, 2009 12:43 AM | Report abuse

Pelosi needs to RESIGN NOW or be IMPEACHED.

This CANNOT STAND. CANNOT.

Posted by: kedwards60093 | May 8, 2009 12:45 AM | Report abuse

Has her family had her screened for some sort of dementia? Alsheimer's is the first to come to mind. Perhaps all the years of plastic surgery have created excessive pressure on her ventral premotor complex where the brain melds together reality and perception (see http://news-info.wustl.edu/tips/page/normal/652.html from 2004)
"The research shows how the mind creates its sense of order in the world and then adjusts on the fly to eliminate distortions."

In her mind's sense of order we are all holding hands all across the "globe" where everyone is so kind to one another and the "distortions" are the realities of warfare, the enemy and the need to get them to talk!

We are so screwed!

Posted by: maryclaudia | May 8, 2009 12:50 AM | Report abuse

MADAM Pelosi is just that...an enabler a paymaster for a group of political prostitutes aka the DEMOCRAT PARTY. Pelosi and the rest of those wh*r*s should resign....or have they at long last no decency? Talk about a culture of corruption

Posted by: SLAM608 | May 8, 2009 12:50 AM | Report abuse

Something is terribly wrong when we are publishing pictures of "supposed" abuse and releasing details of our interrogation methods. The men that devised and employed the extreme interrogation techniques should be given a medal! They helped to save American lives. We live in an upside down world. We should be giving the CIA and the special forces funding, encouragement, and support so that the can find and destroy al-Quaida and the rest of those that would destroy us. Pelosi and the rest are playing political games with our security! It would be laughable if it weren't so dangerous!

Posted by: jamma91 | May 8, 2009 12:52 AM | Report abuse

Hi from Nuremburg Prison!!
I just vant to say, I hope everyone vill come join me here soon.
Pelosi, Bush, Cheney, Reid, Rice - all you VUNDERFULL people!
I am so astonished to find deese people round the vorld who haff mein Fuhrer's interest in their hearts.
Torturing prisoners!! It vas so very good to get the information fur mein Fuhrer. Und, to know you cannot be punished for this bekase YOUR Fuhrer and Reichstag also has said it is so very good - this iss very nice for you isn't it.
Come and stay here with me und I vill show you right down good vays uff making those sub-humans talk.
Vell, they are coming for me now, mit dee noose. So - please hurry! I vant to tell you all my secrets for pain.
And oh, your secret memoranda? Thiss iss SO NAZI uff you! I am so proud of you for learning the vays uff mein Fuhrer.
Sincerely & mit my greatest admiration,
Hans the Guard uff Auschwitz
From Nuremburg Prison

Posted by: TramplingGrapes | May 8, 2009 12:53 AM | Report abuse

Once again. Undeniable evidence that The Speaker of the House, third in line to the presidency, is engaging in outright lying. Watch any of her video ops and you can tell she is lying. Only now there is evidence! The sad part is it will get NO Coverage in the mainstream media. In spite of this evidence; even knowing she is a liar the people of San Francisco will vote her right back into office. what a pitiful country this has become. In addition you may want to take a look at the radical issues that the people who vote her into office want to further in this country and realize; these are people who lie and deceive at no cost to gain power and control in this country for their own glorification. Are these the people we want shaping the moral and ethical landscape of our nation?

Posted by: ruggerd | May 8, 2009 12:55 AM | Report abuse

Let's see, Democrats in Washington D.C. want to investigate members of the previous administration for allowing "Torture". They have determined that: It's torture and illegal to Water-board a human being who has developed, planned or carried out the murder of other human beings, because it makes them FEEL like they are drowning. BUT, it is not torture or illegal to end a human life by suction. It is torture and illegal to place, or threat to place, a bug in a cell with a terrorist, because he has a phobia. BUT, it is not torture or illegal to rip a human being from its development chamber. It is torture and illegal to make an individual stand for long periods of time, because it is uncomfortable and it makes them feel vulnerable. BUT, it is not torture or illegal to stop a human being from ever standing, laughing, crying, hugging or speaking. As a matter of fact, some of the loudest protestors of torture would make it legal as long as the human being has not passed through the sanctifying vagina. This is NOT about Torture. This is about revenge. Revenge for winning an election 9 years ago and the hatred it spawned.

Posted by: mommydont | May 8, 2009 1:01 AM | Report abuse

Nancy Pelosi is supposed to be a public servant with her constituants' best interests at heart. Instead, she is a dispicable, loathsome creature who has no morals and no honor. And when old age or disease finally takes her over the River Stix, I will bake a cake for my children and celebrate her death. And my kids will know who Nancy Pelosi really is.

Posted by: devoak47 | May 8, 2009 1:01 AM | Report abuse

These comments are as amazing as they are ignorant. As much as everyone would like to see the Democratic party pull the pin on Pelosi (with the exception of a handful of brain dead Californians), it would only fuel the push for investigations and possible legal action against the last administration which seems like a big waste of time given our current circumstance.

Personally, I think torture was stupid and counter to the basic principals of most Americans and certainly counter to this nation's founding principals.

However, I say let her lie and leave the last administration alone. She isn't fooling anyone and Bush was doing what he thought he had to do. Besides, I can think of no better argument for being Republican other than being what Pelosi is not.

Posted by: dan9678 | May 8, 2009 1:02 AM | Report abuse

I prefer to believe that Nancy Pelosi is a San francisco male in drag...a woman could never be that corrupt

Posted by: SLAM608 | May 8, 2009 1:02 AM | Report abuse

This is the very SAME Nancy Pelosi that would NOT postpone her big trip to ROME but instead forced MANY in congress to stay up all night to TRY to read the Stimulus Bill. This is the very SAME Nancy Pelosi (along with Mr. Obama,) who WOULD NOT post the Bill online beforehand for five days (as was PROMISED,) but instead forced ALL to stay late and VOTE and BLOCK EVERY AMERICAN from seeing ANY of it. OFF TO ROME AND THE VATICAN! OFF TO A BIG EUROPEAN VACATION IN HER HUGE JET WITH THE HUGE CARBON FOOTPRINT!!!

This woman MUST BE STOPPED AND IMPEACHED NOW. She is single-handedly DESTROYING OUR COUNTRY--DESTROYING ALL DEMOCRAT CITIZENS' LIVES AND DESTROYING ALL REPUBLICAN CITIZENS' LIVES.

It's time to BAND TOGETHER, AMERICANS. Our children will not HAVE a country soon.

Posted by: kedwards60093 | May 8, 2009 1:03 AM | Report abuse

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Q: How can you tell when politicians like Nancy Pelosi, are lying?

A: Their lips are moving
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Posted by: notwaff | May 8, 2009 1:05 AM | Report abuse

Ms. Pelosi needn't worry that her truth disability will get her fired because her constituents don't want honesty from their representative to Congress. Indeed, San Fran is fairyland, and Ms. Pelosi is their fairy princess sent to Washington to battle Darth Vader and his evil army of trolls - the Corporations.

People who see the world in such terms can never be lied to.

Posted by: Lavaux | May 8, 2009 1:06 AM | Report abuse

This lying sack of s**t!
Look at them! Their evilness makes them more & more hideous as time goes by!

Putrid Pelosi and her gang of "wolfs" are IN the chicken coop. Thanks to Mr and Ms dumbed-down American. I am sick and tired of this and I don't see any change until a 5-million person march on washington. Btw, I'm not holding my breath....
Beware the upcoming census!!! Beware ILLEGAL immigrant amnesty!! Beware the Fairness Doctrine!!!

Posted by: tbne2012 | May 8, 2009 1:07 AM | Report abuse

California...bankrupted because every flakey freak in the state who throws a tantrum must be "accommodated" The liberal showcase, all things to all people, and what do you end up with...a failure...a dysfunctional limbo that has convinced itself it is the promised-land. Nancy Pelosi, after her Roswellesque appearance on John Stewart should just go away, truly strange. Diane Finestein has to announce Pakistan allowing U.S. drones to fly from its' territory...think that had anything to do with the current Taliban offensive against Pakistan.

If and when we totally lose our freedom in this country it will come from the left.

Posted by: id1386 | May 8, 2009 1:13 AM | Report abuse

a) Why is anyone surprised that Pelosi lied? Liberals lie about everything. Remember Obama during the campaign? Denied everything negative that we later found to be true. No one would vote for them based on the truth.

b) I reject the very premise that waterboarding is torture. REAL torture is when they spill blood, break bones, dislocate joints or leave you permanently disabled. John McCain was tortured. Daniel Pearl was tortured. Every one of our soldiers captured by Islamic radicals are tortured. How do I know? Because we find them in pieces.

What happened at Abu Ghraib was enhanced hazing that only embarrassed the prisoners. No one would have even known about it without the US liberal media.

How can waterboarding meet any sane definition of torture when they had physicians present to make sure the prisoners were OK?

This whole issue is political liberalism run amuck.

Would YOU want a liberal in YOUR foxhole when the poop hits the fan? I wouldn't.

Posted by: mgoveia | May 8, 2009 1:20 AM | Report abuse

The San Francisco Chronicle, the most censored site in America, is a co-conspirator in the Pelosi revolving door. Ninety percent of the posts on this site would suffer the censor's knife at the Chronicle. Don't allow comrade Pelosi to bail out her personal Pravda. The Chronicle will fail, and please don't let this creature intervene.

Posted by: covelomax | May 8, 2009 1:23 AM | Report abuse

Dearest Georg, Dickie, Nancy, & Harold,
Soo nice to hear from you, and so soon the reply!
I was soo glad to find I haff another reprieve from the gallowss.
Tell me so... come now schatzee - vas it you who hass the little strings pulled, to keep me alife a little more? I know you haff the strings pulled, it is so you can come to Nuremburg Prison und learn the true vays off torture from a Meister, Ja, JA??
Ohh I remember soo goot, those vunderschon days in the camps. Dum dee dee, just put this hood ofer the sub-human's little kopf. Dee diddle dee, now where did I put that little club? Ahh so very jawohl, there you are, by the rack... Now, a little bit of acid, a little cut here, so very yes!! And a touch of Spanish Inquisition.... yes, yes Fritz, pour the water on the hood. A little more, please.
YOU VILL TALK!!
Ja, Ja, Nancy it is so good to hear from alles uff you and your partners Georg und Dickie!!
I sink that iff you can just fly over here in your big jet you vill find so much strength through joy!!
So looking forward to our intimate chats,
Your dearest Hans the Guard of Auschwitz

Posted by: TramplingGrapes | May 8, 2009 1:28 AM | Report abuse

Gosh, this is this is news?

Pelosi is:

a) a liar

b) has an even worse memory than Scooter Libby

c) no mental capacity to comprehend information presented to her

or all of the above?

Is Patrick Fitzgerald busy?

Posted by: accentmark | May 8, 2009 1:31 AM | Report abuse

My question is...what else is she and has she been LYING ABOUT all the years shes been in Congress???

How $Fat$ has her friends and relatives been getting during her years in Congress? It seems our elected officials enter office poor as a church mouse and leave Filthy Rich, how does that work?

Posted by: Ted6 | May 8, 2009 1:46 AM | Report abuse

All the Dems leaders who said bad about Bush for 8 years did the same thing.

Quick question for the Peace crowd... the Democrats said in 2006 they would "end the war" (Hint the enemy has to end it too for it to end) if they won Congress. They did, did they stop it? No, the Surge went in and it worked (Thank you John McCain, for doing it over Rumsfeld and the Dems both.)

So then in 2008 "On if Dems win we will end the war" and they win the White House and Congress. Have they ended it? No.. and they never could have or would have.

All these Democrats that bagged on Bush and the GOP for all these years did the same thing when the cameras were turned off.

The difference is that Bush, who was called a liar by the Democrats, was always honest in saying what he wanted to do. I respect Bush and McCain a lot more, they were always straight with the people. The Dems used the media and the "Peace movement" to snow people and then do the same thing.

PS anyone seen Cindy Sheehan since the election? Want to take three guesses why not?

Code Pink is out protesting AIG.. the war is a non issue now that a Democrat is Commander in Chief. It was all about the power, never about "peace."

Bush was honest about defending and expanding Democracy. The Democrats lied and do the same in Iraq and Afghanistan. The ironic thing is that the number one doctrine of Bush, as hated as he was by the Left, continues, and they are doing it. This above all validates its success.

Posted by: David_Powell3006 | May 8, 2009 1:49 AM | Report abuse

I personally have no problem with what was done to these terrorists. They would have no qualms of beheading any one of us and as far as I am concerned they were treated very well. No permanent damage was done to any of them and other than having to live with their crimes they are quite well which is more than I can say for the people in the Twin Towers.

This info should have remained a secret and anyone who would release it is doing it for political purposes and with no consideration to the people of this country and their safety.

The best question asked in this whole debacle was when they asked "Are these methods strong enough?" The Bill of Rights is not a suicide pact!

Posted by: crlos3 | May 8, 2009 1:49 AM | Report abuse

"My personal guess is that the same Republicans are behind today's Congressional decisions as were behind them during the Bush maladministration, and Pelosi is as much on their payroll as Bush was."

LOL! Sure dude. I'm glad the Speakerette of the House was briefed on these necessary techniques that saved lives. I'm glad she didn't object. She and the rest of her kind save their self righteous objections for when the rabid morons that constitute her base become outraged that we would make a mass murdering piece of garbage think he was drowning in order to make him talk and save lives. SEE, SEE! We are just as bad as they are! Please.

P.S Hey Tramplingrapes: What flavor is the Obama Kook Aid Tonight?

Posted by: aMonsterisanidiot | May 8, 2009 1:50 AM | Report abuse

Pelosi is such a liar. Is anyone surprised?

Obama and crew are going to be sorry they opened up this can of worms.

Personally, knowing they used the waterboard technique on ONLY THREE PEOPLE that we know were guilty and that IT WORKED, I am perfectly ok with it in the wake of 911.

But Pelosi... is such a lying hypocrite. How does she stay in power?

Posted by: bvdon | May 8, 2009 1:54 AM | Report abuse

TramplingGrapes, logic master:

Millions of innocent men, women and children marched to their death =

Mass murdering terrorist made to think he was drowning in order to save the lives of thousands of innocent men, women and children.

What is in that Kook Aid anyway libs?

Posted by: aMonsterisanidiot | May 8, 2009 1:55 AM | Report abuse

Meine Schatzee Nancy!!
Please tell me now, uff your luff for your Fuhrer Georg. He must be so very strong to haff all these Amis shrinking behind their own roses for so long, isn't it?
You must haff been so proud to stand behind him while he TRAMPLED ON YOUR COUNTRY'S RIGHTS, WAGED AGGRESSIVE WARFARE, TORTURED PRISONERS, VOIDED LAWS, DEFILED YOUR CONSTITUTION, LIED BIG LIES ABOUT WEAPONS THAT NEVER EXISTED, ORDERED THOSE SWINE IN BRITAIN TO KILL RIGHT BESIDE HIM, TURNED OFF THE WORLD'S OIL SPIGOT SO HIS CRONIES COULD MAKE THE LARGEST PROFITS IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD, ALLOWED 12 MILLION ILLEGAL ALIENS TO SQUAT IN YOUR COUNTRY, CHASED HIS OWN ATTORNEY GENERAL AROUND THE HOSPITAL ROOM - SIGN ZEE PAPERS, OLD MAN!! - oh, such a man he must be!!
Truly a worthy successor to my own sadly departed Leader.
Please tell me when you can come to Nuremburg and sit down with me,
Hans the Auschwitz Guard

Posted by: TramplingGrapes | May 8, 2009 2:00 AM | Report abuse

Hey S T R E T C H !! (may your neck be next)

I knew your hysterics was a smoke screen when you were accusing Bush. It is an axiom that the accusers are always the ones who are the guilty abusers. Now you will pay! Go ahead and run off to see the Pope again to get absolution. Too bad it won't resonate with WE THE PEOPLE. You are finnished you lying phoney.

Posted by: scott31 | May 8, 2009 2:03 AM | Report abuse

While it is somewhat off topic, there has been a comment about term limits. While I am in favor of term limits, I believe limiting the amount of time our federal and state legislatures can meet during a year and requiring elected representatives to live and work (i.e., support themselves and their families) in the areas they represent for most of the year, would solve many of our current problems. By letting them reside in Washington, D.C. or Sacramento, CA, all year, I believe they "find" things to do, which usually means passing unnecessary resolutions and laws, just to appear "doing good", when all they are doing is "looking busy". If I could I would restrict Congress to meeting for only 4 months, and state legislatures for 1 month. This would limit their exposure to full-time lobbyists who have a corruptive influence on our legislative bodies.

Posted by: Tuckerman | May 8, 2009 2:04 AM | Report abuse

What if they told her in the meeting that they decided it was legal to round up the heads of the House democratic party and set them on fire? Do you think she might have spoke up even though they hadn't done it yet? There's a reason why she was picked to be Speaker. She is the most deceitful of the whole dishonest party.

Posted by: Tarmangani | May 8, 2009 2:18 AM | Report abuse

Madam Speaker . . .
Washington is disgusting, naught but a den of liars and thieves.
Now let us turn to the "Recovery Act" - the most irresponsibly run, pocket lining, ivy league grab in history . . . skull and boned again and you sold the snake oil to your "constituents" - with your accomplice, the Obama Administration.
Sad.
I'm losing faith in the man I voted for.

Posted by: flamenfiddle | May 8, 2009 2:27 AM | Report abuse

Dearest mgoveia!!
I gotta say that your post is not one I can agree with.
Liberals in foxholes? How about Ullyses Grant, Tecumpseh Sherman, George Marshall?
Liberals all.
As long as you continue to choke on the lies of the past 8 years, you might as well wash them down by reading some of the evidence that is out there. I suppose you think the no-bid contract to Halliburton was in no wise due to the influence of Dick? And, I suspect, you believe the stock market crashed in 2009 right? And Paulsen's bailout was actually Obama's plan which he snuck in before he was elected!!
No WONDER georgie was elected, and then re-elected! Hey I got some swamp land I need to sell to you

Posted by: TramplingGrapes | May 8, 2009 2:36 AM | Report abuse

Pelosi should be impeached. Lying sack of c**p.

Posted by: jophis1 | May 8, 2009 2:40 AM | Report abuse

Here is a transcript of the statement Nancy Pelosi made about her briefing:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/nov05election/detail?entry_id=39012
Q: "At the time you were briefed, did you raise objections?

Pelosi: "It is not appropriate for me to talk about what happens at briefings. It is very interesting that people are talking so freely. But I can say this: they have been talking about it for a while. At that or any other briefing, and that was the only briefing that I was briefed on in that regard, we were not -- I repeat, we were not -- told that water boarding or any of these other enhanced interrogation methods were used."

Nothing in this Washington Post report refutes what Nancy Pelosi said about her briefing.

Nothing in the humanevents.com link posted earlier refutes what Nancy Pelosi said about her briefing.

Wow. There is a lot of "mis-information" in this thread. Do you people work for Faux News Channel? Sean Hannity? How about Rush Limbaugh?

Posted by: Gawd | May 8, 2009 2:49 AM | Report abuse

'Attorney General Eric Holder said in testimony today, "I will not permit the criminalization of policy differences. However, it is my responsibility as attorney general to enforce the law. It is my duty to enforce the law. If I see evidence of wrongdoing I will pursue it to the full extent of the law." '

I am satisfied with this stance.

Posted by: TramplingGrapes | May 8, 2009 3:04 AM | Report abuse

I fully back the idea of prosecuting EVERY elected official who knew about "waterboarding", and did nothing about it. The security and intelligence operatives who carried-out the policy should be exempt, but all of the politicos should be tried, and if found guilty of looking the other way, and thereby condoning the practice, they should be sentenced according to historical standards, starting with Nancy Pelosi.

Posted by: ericrobinsonmm | May 8, 2009 3:18 AM | Report abuse

Pelosi's statements and actions should not be a surprise to anyone. She is consumed with undermining the sovereignty and security of the United States and all as an action of payback at the prior administration. What this president and congress has done to this country in the last 3 1/2 months is absolute crime. I have no faith in her abilities, the president or this body of government. It sickens me what they have done and deserve to be removed from office.

Posted by: cmccc | May 8, 2009 3:27 AM | Report abuse

If I were Barbara Walters and I could interview Pelosi, I'd ask her, "If you could be an animal, would you be (1) a skunk in the grass, (2) a potato, or (3) the bottom half of a fire hydrant."

Is there any woman in America, stupider than Pelosi. She makes Patty Murray, Harry Reid, Barney Frank, Maxine Watters, and Arlan Spector look like Madam Currie, Neils Bohr, Albert Einstein, May West, and Thomas Edison by comparison.

It speaks VOLUMES that the democrats put this tree stump of a woman at the head of their party. Volumes and volumes.

Posted by: harrygett | May 8, 2009 3:39 AM | Report abuse

Gawd at 2:49 a.m.,

Can't you read? Or are you just unable to process information?

From the third paragraph of the story:

The memo, issued by the Director of National Intelligence and the Central Intelligence Agency to Capitol Hill, notes the Pelosi-Goss briefing covered "EITs including the use of EITs on Abu Zubaydah." EIT is an acronym for enhanced interrogation technique. Zubaydah was one of the earliest valuable al-Qaeda members captured and the first to have the controversial tactic known as water boarding used against him.

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And if you don't believe the story, open the PDF of the CIA memo.

Posted by: Antoinette1 | May 8, 2009 3:42 AM | Report abuse

Gawd,

You are a sychophantic democrat and everything I would expect from democrats these days.

First Pelosi says, "It is not appropriate for me to talk about what happens at briefings." And then she seems to go ahead and do just that. And of course, no one challenges her on this. Certainly not a fellow tree stump of a democrat like you.

We're supposed to take the word of a woman who is cavalier about spending 3.5 TRILLION (with a T) dollars, putting YOU more than $11,000 in debt to the Federal government? We're supposed to believe that Pelosi could have been told that waterboarding was legal, but that if she had serious objections she wouldn't have followed up with a question like, "Well, you know, I don't approve of torture. Even if you think it's legal, I'd like assurances that you're not doing it." Did she ask that or anything like that? No. So where's her due diligence, my fine tree stump? Where?

Posted by: harrygett | May 8, 2009 3:45 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: nowgoal | May 8, 2009 3:52 AM | Report abuse

Dear cmccc, your post......
"Pelosi's statements and actions should not be a surprise to anyone. She is consumed with undermining the sovereignty and security of the United States and all as an action of payback at the prior administration. What this president and congress has done to this country in the last 3 1/2 months is absolute crime. I have no faith in her abilities, the president or this body of government. It sickens me what they have done and deserve to be removed from office. "

I wonder if you would state what the current administration has done that is terrible or sickening? I'm all in favor of investigating anyone who has committed crimes, regardless of race, creed, religion, or political persuasion.
Please don't be vague - spell it out!!

Posted by: TramplingGrapes | May 8, 2009 4:00 AM | Report abuse

Antoinette1,

Obviously, you can't read.

The pdf. file cites the September, 2002 briefing of Nancy Pelosi and Porter Goss and DOES NOT say they were briefed on the use of waterboarding.

Some of the other briefings of other members of Congress do indicate they were briefed on what the CIA wanted them to know about their use of waterboarding.

But not at Nancy Pelosi and Porter Goss' briefing.
======================
harrygett,

Nancy Pelosi only talked about what she was NOT told in her one briefing with Porter Goss in 2002. She didn't talk about what she was told.

Geez, folks. This is serious stuff. Either pay attention...or refrain from voting for the rest of your life, please.

Posted by: Gawd | May 8, 2009 4:17 AM | Report abuse

We will only get rid of some of the corruption in D.C. and achieve some real "change" if we target and get rid of all the incompetent Dems that have seniority because they are in "safe" election districts. We need to target Pelosi, Reid, Frank, Waters, Dodd, Meeks, Hastings, Jackson-Leigh, Conyers, et al. Until these totally corrupt, stupid, and in some cases perverted, jerks are out of power, we will continue to be lied to, ripped off, and lose our country.

Posted by: FuzzyWuzzy1 | May 8, 2009 4:20 AM | Report abuse

Not that Pelosi has figured out which way the political wind is blowing and has therefore switched her position on the use of waterboarding... I wish I could ask her... Nancy? We have intel that Joe Terror (now in custody) helped plan an attack on a major US City. He refuses to tell us about those plans... will only say... "Soon you will know." Either we waterboard him or we let American's die. How do you want to proceed?

http://www.HEREontheWEB.com

Posted by: UpYoursObama | May 8, 2009 4:23 AM | Report abuse

Ms. 'P' could care less how outraged all you little people are. She really is above it all. And will tolerate the rabble's anger because to her it's meaningless; she's NOT going anywhere. Yeah she got caught, trying to use the issue of torture to politicaly pander to the 'sheeple', but having that move fail & unmask her for the self-indulgent, craven, liar she is; besides some limited embarrassment, will not do much to her politicaly. Nancy will CONTINUE to be the Queen Bee answerable to no one!

Posted by: mbs1960 | May 8, 2009 4:25 AM | Report abuse

rhahn2 wrote: “....Let me get this straight. Desperate Conservatives who applauded the Bush Gangs approval of these techniques, are condemning Nancy for knowing about them and not telling...”

rhahn – your response is a typical response - from a dyslexia democrat nation....

This all began when Pelosi et al wanted to “hang the Bush officials” for the “illegal” use of EIT – and it all went so terribly wrong from there.....for her!!

I have no problem with the use of waterboarding if it saves “one” innocent life from the deranged acts of a fanatical ideology. I do have a problem with everything about Pelosi.

She should consider serving her country – by no longer lying to it. She should consider serving her country – by no longer pretending to serve it...she should quit!!

Posted by: rto1 | May 8, 2009 4:29 AM | Report abuse

dear upyoursobama.
If you will kindly take a look at some of the literature around torturing people in order to extract confessions or information.

You will find reams of informed statements by interrogators that torture doesn't yield facts, but only that which the torturer wishes to hear.

So... it seems a little unsure that you really want to pursue that line

Posted by: TramplingGrapes | May 8, 2009 4:31 AM | Report abuse

To say that nothing in the CIA memo refutes what Pelosi has said is disingenuous and relegates those who take such a position as likewise disingenuous. The woman is parsing her words. She is playing a semantics game. It is what the Liberals do. They engage in all sorts of perfidy and then conjure up some linguistic gymnastics that permit them "plausible deniability". For anyone who is able to "call a spade, a spade", Pelosi is a liar...a liar through and through. Only Liberals will not be able to see this because they have never been able to call a spade, a spade.

Oh, thanks for bringing up that old whipping post "Haliburton". Liberals are either so forgetful or so ignorant, they don't know or don't remember that Haliburton was Bill Clinton's choice to provide logistical support during the campaign in the Balkans/Serbia/Kosovo region. Clinton gave them a no-contract deal and they were already in the region. So, Liberals blame Bush and Cheney for continuing what Clinton put in place. By the way, I spent time in Kosovo and Haliburton did a fine job. They are competent and professional.

To Liberals, facts are a real pain in the you know what.

Posted by: snerdm | May 8, 2009 4:33 AM | Report abuse

- A “reverend and mentor” who GD’s America...
- A wife who has never been “proud” of America...
- A man who runs on transparency – then seals his college records - to prove it...
- A man who claims citizenship – then hires a team of lawyers - to secure it...
- A man who campaigns on eight years of runaway spending – then doubles it in less than 50 days...
- A man who bans lobbyist – then attempts to hire one...
- A man who condemns cheats and dishonesty – then accepts one to run the treasury...
- A man who signs a contract – but does not read it....
- A man who has never held a job – but the most important one in the world...
- A man who feels hard work should pay – for those who choose not to work…
- A man who’s ability to speak – is dictated by his ability to read….
- A man who feels government can solve the problems it faces – while addressing everything but the problems it created…
- A man who runs a government – the opposite way he runs his home…
- A man who speaks of practical solutions – using impractical methods…
- A man who preaches “equality for all” – then targets 5% unequally...
- A man who pledges to reduce the tax for 95% - then raises them for 100%...
- A man who feels all have the right to own a home - whether or not they can pay for it….
- A man who speaks of responsible behavior – then throws a party every Wednesday night....
- A man who tells me to show fiscal responsibility – then borrows and spends money he doesn’t have....
- A man who shows me nothing for my money that he spent – and tells me it’s “my patriotic duty” to give him more...
- A man who has never run a business – but would like to tell me how to run mine...
- A man who pledges allegiance to the constitution – then null and voids a perfectly legal contract protected by it...
- A man who follows the belief that upholding the immigration laws of America – is unpatriotic and un-American...
- A man who is willing to provided for those who attacked this country – while degrading those trying to defend it...
- A man who would even think of not providing for this countries fallen – after his order fell them...
- A man who “voices” free choice – then systematically seeks to silence the voiceless...
- A man who pleads for Gods blessing of America – then destroys the greatest gift ever given to it....

Posted by: rto1 | May 8, 2009 5:06 AM | Report abuse

To all my liberal, oops progressive, oops chickenshx%&*^&$$t, oops head in the sand, oops PC, oops members of California's district 8, friends, what are you doing about getting this lying, two-faced, thieving, piece of crap out of office.

Posted by: decraven | May 8, 2009 5:11 AM | Report abuse

She must have forgotten as she is sooo busy battling the culture of corruption.

Posted by: RumBandit | May 8, 2009 5:12 AM | Report abuse

Just wait. Mark my words. Obama will use interrogation methods that are far more severe and there won't be any bru-ha-ha about it. Bush and Pelosi were merely trying to defend human life from the barbarism of 9-11 terror tactics. Unfortunately, Polosi doesn't have the character to stick to her guns against evil, but turned coat like Benedict Arnold. Political correctness and other tyrannical shinanigans clearly show that it is the left that is the threat to freedom in this country. America had better wake up and smell the coffee or well be completely, not just largely, controlled and at the mercy of some form of Gestapo in the near future.

Posted by: Aqualung1 | May 8, 2009 5:41 AM | Report abuse

Like all Democratzi, from our Kenyan president to the local dog catcher, Pelosi stands for nothing more then her personal acquisition of power. On the other hand, do the high and mighty "progressive" Liberals posting really feel it is better to sacrifice American lives then dribble water on the nose of an aspiring mass murderer? Here again is more Liberal hypocrisy. If it were their own life, or their family's, they would pull out the stops. As long as the lives are your's and mine however, they would point their noses in the air and let us all die.

Posted by: rcarpenter1 | May 8, 2009 5:44 AM | Report abuse

Term limits please.

Posted by: tcdifla | May 8, 2009 5:45 AM | Report abuse

Is anyone really surprised she lied? They all lie.... every damn one of them! What the F*** is wrong with waterboarding or any other enhanced interrogation technique.... if it saves AMERICAN lives? the Terrorists don't take POW's they just CUT OFF THEIR POW'S HEADS! QUIT INFORMING OUR ENEMIES ON WHAT THE HELL WE DO! Now get over it already!

Posted by: martigal10 | May 8, 2009 5:48 AM | Report abuse


Seems like everyone is forgetting the point. We were and are at war...everything goes. If you think for a minute that our enemies now or ever have followed the Geneva Convention rules associated with the fair treatment of prisoners ... then you are smoking something (apparently Pelosi is). The problem is that the Republicans botched up the war. When you attack, listen to your generals and attack with overwhelming force. Now it looks as though we are slowly slipping into a war inside of Pakistan with the Democrats. Please Please Please vote Pelosi out!!!

Posted by: jjt48 | May 8, 2009 5:50 AM | Report abuse

It's a real shame that the left and this newspaper along with the NY TIMES has become source material for our enemy Actually, sir, the WaPo and NYT have become more than "source material" and their liberal allies are a treasonous abscess suppurating non-stop in an agenda to destroy the USA and merge it into a global condominium.

A traitor named Harold Coe is about to be named Legal Advisor to the Dept. of State and this fifth column believes the US Constitution is subordinate to treaties and some sort of vaporous "body of reason" conjured up by the UN & The Hague to rule on international law and basically deprive the US of many of its rights and privileges.

Posted by: djman1141 | May 8, 2009 5:56 AM | Report abuse

Make that Harold "Koh" who calls himself a "transnational progressive" which is the bureaucratic equivalent of a practitioner of "legal tyranny."

Posted by: djman1141 | May 8, 2009 5:59 AM | Report abuse

dear snerdm.
I take it you are the only person with a war record. Therefore you are the only person who can speak with confidence about Halliburton?
What a hoot

Posted by: TramplingGrapes | May 8, 2009 6:03 AM | Report abuse

Hey TramplingGrapes............. you need to get a life or maybe a job would even do!

Posted by: martigal10 | May 8, 2009 6:05 AM | Report abuse

My gosh, djman1141 !! Have you never read the Constitution, then? Treaties ARE U.S. Law.

This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.

I am sorry, but you are uncorrect.

Posted by: TramplingGrapes | May 8, 2009 6:11 AM | Report abuse

lol I confess, martigal10, I'm sitting in an airport!!

Posted by: TramplingGrapes | May 8, 2009 6:14 AM | Report abuse

It's simple: When GWB WATERBOARDS three terrorists to save thousands of American lives, it is a crime. But when BHO BLOWS THE HEADS OFF of three terrorists to save one American life, not only is it not a crime, he is a hero. See?

Posted by: UpLateAgain | May 8, 2009 6:16 AM | Report abuse

I think pelosi should be waterboarded until she tells the truth! However, as a politician, she may choose to drown rather than tell the truth...

Posted by: jsanderssr | May 8, 2009 6:18 AM | Report abuse

Wardropper, your proctologist called, he/she found your head!!!! You Dems have to get your heads out and realize the party of destruction is the Democrat Party!!!

Posted by: roalhv | May 8, 2009 6:22 AM | Report abuse

You think this is criminal? Watch these "representatives" try to legalize 30 million illegal aliens so they can lock out the opposition by numerical advantage for future elections nationwide. They and their media allies are trying to divide us, they have people believing that millions of Americans who hold traditional values are racist, homo-phobe or bigots. They are marginalizing traditional Americans. They want an electorate that does not think, just one that cries racist, homo-phobe and bigots and then votes progressive. They are stealing your money, your children s money and your childrens-children money. They just created "hate-laws" that will punish you for what you "think" and all you people seem to be concerned about is some terrorist who had water poured on his face and who knew about it. You people in Washington do not deserve a country, you are trying to take us into hell!

Posted by: thomaspaine001 | May 8, 2009 6:38 AM | Report abuse

Regarding Haliburton, the issue is not who can speak with confidence. It's who can speak with truth. That's where Pelosi and her minions run into trouble.

Anyone who knows the truth can speak it. I happen to know the true story about Haliburton so I can speak truthfully about it. Liberals fashion their so-called truth to fit their preconceived agenda. Whatever it takes to support the agenda, that becomes their truth. Halburton was in place prior to the Bush/Cheney administration. It was put there by Clinton and was put there by Clinton with a no-bid contract. I know it pains Liberals to hear this but it is the truth.

As far as whether Haliburton did a good job, ask the Russians, French, Germans, and all the NATO troops. They jumped at every chance they got to eat in the U.S. Military DFACs (Dining Facilities) because the quality of food and service was so much better than what they got with their own facilities. Guess who operated the DFACs...that wretched entity that Liberals love to hate, Haliburton. It's the truth,

Posted by: snerdm | May 8, 2009 6:38 AM | Report abuse

Catch the WaPo spin? "...shows that intelligence officials were willing to share the information about waterboarding with only a sharply closed group of people."

Ah, so the secretive Bush administration withheld this information from the entire Congress. So even in exposing that Pelosi is a liar, the WaPo shills have to jab at the Bush administration.

Posted by: lcary | May 8, 2009 6:41 AM | Report abuse

With all the administration, with the help of Pelosi is doing to retract this country from our constitution I am wondering where the conservatives are? I woke up this morning to read about oBUMa's latest scam to make us into a socialist/communist country. Then I read just how much Pelosi ETAL. lie. Where are the conservatives? The current "leaders" are enhancing GE Bush's legacy, before they finish we all will wish Bush was back! Another thing I realized while reading this morning is that oBUMa is like a light bulb just before it burns out. It gets VERY bright for a few seconds then it is gone. We can only hope and pray that oBUMa, Pelosi, Reid and the rest of ruin America crowd are on their way out.

Posted by: eagle641 | May 8, 2009 6:41 AM | Report abuse

Let me see - if I understand the liberal thought process correctly.

To waterboard the scum of the earth is a crime and torture.

But...

To jam a pair of scissors in the skull of the unborn – then suck their brains out - and dump what’s left in the garbage....is NOT!!

And one of the first official laws – created by this woman - signed by this man – was to make abortion more “affordable” not only for those in this country – but for people all over the world.

That is PATHETIC!!!

That is a CRIME – that is TORTURE – created by this country - paid for by this country - exported from this country – to ALL for ALL....by us ALL!!

Psa 127:3 - “Lo, children are a heritage of the LORD: and the fruit of the womb is his reward. “

Posted by: rto1 | May 8, 2009 6:57 AM | Report abuse

Here's the plan I want to institute....

Execute them. We'll all get over it in time even the bleeding hearts. As long they are alive the debate will rage. Kill them once...no debate.

Liberals : "You killed those poor freedom fighters!"

USA: "Yep, you win, good job!"

Liberals: "............"

USA: "Was there anything else?"

Liberals: " ...... .... ... "
__________________
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Posted by: yrualeg1 | May 8, 2009 7:00 AM | Report abuse

Nancy was politiking as usual and it backfired on her because she's not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

Posted by: thebink | May 8, 2009 7:10 AM | Report abuse

Only a person with her morals could say the things she says to try and destroy a good man like PRESIDENT BUSH even after He can no longer stand in her way.

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Posted by: OnlinePianoLessonsLive | May 8, 2009 7:14 AM | Report abuse

Congress has never made waterboarding explicitly illegal, as has been pointed out by the WSJ, even though they have had the opportunity to vote that on multiple occasions. To make it illegal now would imply that it was legal then. This opportunistic woman has lied so often that she has lost awareness of truth. Most ethical Congress, indeed.

Posted by: FrankfromFlorida | May 8, 2009 7:21 AM | Report abuse

Fed up with Obama and Pelosi? Check out this song at: www.myspace.com/rogerweber

You'll feel better.

Posted by: Roger9 | May 8, 2009 7:23 AM | Report abuse

Time for Pelosi to set an example by leading. Resign.

Posted by: peterp22 | May 8, 2009 7:24 AM | Report abuse

Pelosi has made a career out of lying, this time she got caught with concrete proof to her lie. About time too. This idiot needs to be publicly humiliated and thrown out of office - and soon.

Posted by: rockjock99 | May 8, 2009 7:26 AM | Report abuse

Fed up with Obama and Pelosi? Check out this song at: http://www.myspace.com/rogerweber

You'll feel better.

Posted by: Roger9 | May 8, 2009 7:29 AM | Report abuse

Looks like everyone was there except me. Why wasn't I asked to attend? Me and dimwit Pelosi are the last to hear about it.

Posted by: frujtr | May 8, 2009 7:32 AM | Report abuse

Pelosi is bad, I agree with all who think and say "nice" things about her. BUT, the real story is that Hussein's henchmen are getting this information out to put her in her place, keep her throttled in. Anyone who believe that Karl Rove or the Republicans are getting this information out should be reading and commenting on moveon, huffington or the other nutbag site, dailykos. Where is the investigative reporting at the Post? NBC, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, CNN

Posted by: Ronny2 | May 8, 2009 7:32 AM | Report abuse

Pelosi lies all the time. She knew but now denies because she's pushing a different political agenda. I'm sick of these politicians. At that time, very few would have cared about water boarding or even doing worse to the terroists. Now they want to release these terroists into our streets and prisons. Everyone knows what will happen then. Obama is weakening our military and CIA. If we have another attack with the help of these guys, I will hold Obama personally responsible.

Posted by: dianeremarx | May 8, 2009 7:35 AM | Report abuse

This is embarrassing, please do the right thing and step down as speaker.
-Democrat

Posted by: ccs4756 | May 8, 2009 7:37 AM | Report abuse

Liberals in foxholes? How about Ullyses Grant, Tecumpseh Sherman, George Marshall?
Liberals all.
As long as you continue to choke on the lies of the past 8 years
---------------
Don't even try to equate American heros to the liberal pussified treacherous scum of today. The last normal Democratic president was Kennedy. The pinko traitors of today have nothing in common with those great Americans.

Lies and treason of the last 8 years came only from the Democrat side. They were luying then, they are lying now, just like Pelosi vividly demonstrated. By the way, Bush and Cheney are private citizens now. So accusing them of lies may cost your dearly. Well, that is if you had anything of your own and not completely relied on Guwmint handouts

Posted by: pihto999 | May 8, 2009 7:40 AM | Report abuse

The "Truth ' is this has ''backfired " on Obama , Pelosi , The ACLU and the Hard Anti War Left .
They though they could get away with making Bush , Chaney , The CIA and our Troops look bad one last time since they have been that after a month non stop a month after 9/11. .
It started with Pelosi and Reid trying to stop the War 17 Times and Obama closing Gitmo speech two months ago .
Not Knowing(Duh) the "FACTS would come "Who knew What and When , Obama ,Pelosi and the ACLU would not have pushed so hard to release the Prisoners , The Pictures and Video's of the interrogations .After all the Three main Thugs gave us Mountains of Info leading to 81 Arrest in 19 Countries of Al QUADA THUGS and stopping 5 Attacks .
Obama , Pelosi , The ACLU knew this would help ' Requite " Thousands of Al Quada want-a be's . Just lie the Lie about the Koran being flushed down the John at Gitmo .So that was their Motive all alone .Then we would tuck our Tails and walk away from these wars with Al Quada and the Teligane since Radical Socialist have no Honor or Love of America in fact they all see America as the Problem ..... Look no futher than Obama speechs in Europe on what was wrong with America ''before " Him ..... He's the damn problem as his FELLLOW ANTI WAR SOCIALIST FRIENDS .
Sadly following Obama , Team Pelosi , The ACLU and the Hard Anti War Left it appears without question that back America's swore enemies or they are beyond Dangerously Stupid for this Country at War with those they so seek to help...... Neither Option is good or right for America or our Republic .

Posted by: same15259 | May 8, 2009 7:41 AM | Report abuse

Typical politician - way too many lawyers in politics, they don't think or speak like ordinary folks. A lie is a lie no matter how small..Pelosi should be out on the street looking for a job today. BTW, I'll keep my God and guns, the Dems and dreamers can keep the Change!

Posted by: Grunt1 | May 8, 2009 7:41 AM | Report abuse

Did Nancy Pelosi develop enhanced interrogation techniques? No.
Did Nancy Pelosi perform enhanced interrogation techniques? No.
Was Nancy Pelosi allowed to talk about the briefings? No.
If Nancy Pelosi had created a stink about the enhanced interrogation, would she have been labeled a traitor? Yes.
Sounds like the GOP is coming up with a straw man here.

Posted by: tony581 | May 8, 2009 7:44 AM | Report abuse

I did not know they were using enhanced interrogation tactics...OK, I did not know they were water boarding anyone...What, the Bush administration approved water boarding before I was briefed about the use of EIT??? What a liar you are Pelosi! You sound just like D'oh-Bama...I'm not after your guns...I am not raising taxes...My administration will be totally transparent...

Posted by: NotYou1 | May 8, 2009 7:51 AM | Report abuse

REPREHENSIBLE NANCY'sphincter-of-the-Dembhole-House-of-Fools'PELOSI comes from a long line of family POLS/HACKS that have abused/used/stolen/lied to the people!!! NOTHING WILL HAPPEN TO HER FOR HER LATEST LIES!!! SHE IS SURROUNDED BY DUMB DEMBHOLES AND BLIND IGNORANT REPUBLICANTS!!! At least the ROMANS knew it was a 'joke' when they elected a horse to their senate - we have DUMB DONKEYS + BLIND/IMPOTENT ELEPHANTS in our congress!!! Ha.

Posted by: ZyskandarAJaimot | May 8, 2009 7:54 AM | Report abuse

It's amazing. They just pile one lie on top of the other... with a STRAIGHT FACE no less.
She is a disgrace, a dope and incompetent. What else can you expect from a Liberal?
Thank you news media for doing your best to keep these losers in office, and for doing your best for electing fresh gangs of professional crooks (ex- Chairman Obama and crew) who repeatedly deceive us.

Posted by: RustyShackleford2 | May 8, 2009 7:54 AM | Report abuse

The American voters were duped. We were told that Obama was a gifted orator; now we discover that he is mute without two teleprompters. We were told that he was intellectually gifted; we will never know. He sealed all his academic records and test scores. If he were intellectually gifted, he would want to verify his academic accomplishments. We were told that he was a brillant writer; his inaugural address was replete with cliches,platitudes, and borrowed phrases. We were told that he was a professor of law. Now we discover that he may have been just an adjunct lecturer. He has quadrupled the debt in 100 days---a travesty from which we will never recover.This destruction of our nation was brought about to enact"change."
We are doomed and are too naive to understand what havoc we have wrought.

Posted by: tsapp77 | May 8, 2009 7:55 AM | Report abuse

Nancy "Parse the verb" Pelosi is a "Thugocrat" and she will deny all briefings since she can't remember what she chooses to forget and she is a permanent resident of a fantasy world called "denial." She was made aware of the techniques being used and did not raise any questions or complaints. She was briefed by the CIA that the techniques were being used and she did not blink (perhaps her makeup was too stiff and it would not allow her eyes to blink) or raise an objection. She may not be the developer or the person performing the techniques but she is a co-conspirator and she is joint and severally liable for all the actions taken while she was in leadership (whether she knew about them or not). It was her responsibility to KNOW and to take the steps necessary to stop any wrong actions. Her inaction is equally complicit. Her current denial is fraudulent and deceptive. She was in the loop as a top leader and she should have known even if she denies knowing now. It was her job to know and deal with it. What an arrogant woman.

Posted by: thinker5 | May 8, 2009 7:55 AM | Report abuse

PS:
She is one UGLY "woman". You got to love the BLANK look on her face.
Oh wait, Michelle Obama has the awrad for bad looks. I am waiting for the news media to refer to our first lady Bull-Dog, as "radiant".

Posted by: RustyShackleford2 | May 8, 2009 7:57 AM | Report abuse

And the problem with using waterboarding to interrogate a terrorist responsible for killing 3,000 people is what again?

Posted by: okdeanok | May 8, 2009 8:00 AM | Report abuse

Citizens, calm down, Nancy was "just young and dumb"!!

Posted by: texasgoat | May 8, 2009 8:00 AM | Report abuse

i think she's being sincere that she doesn't remember. but, the continual use of botox has diminished her memory.

Posted by: allthecash | May 8, 2009 8:01 AM | Report abuse

They say there are strangers who threaten us,
In our immigrants and infidels.
They say there is strangeness, too dangerous
In our theatres and bookstore shelves,
That those who know what's best for us
Must rise and save us from ourselves

Posted by: dionysus2112 | May 8, 2009 8:01 AM | Report abuse

tony wrote: “....Sounds like the GOP is coming up with a straw man here....”

No – not at all. And if nancy had “admitted” she was told – and not stated she was not. No big deal. But she lied and our country died. She could have even lied and said she profusely objected when told – but she is too stupid to not even know “when and where” to lie.

This administration is a lie.

Where is the birth certificate anyway?

Where are the “sealed” school records - which would show he was admitted under foreign student status?

Where is that campaign promise of transparency?

Obama’s nose is growing daily...

Posted by: rto1 | May 8, 2009 8:03 AM | Report abuse

Love it! This could be the best news of the day. Now, where are those Countrywide docs from Chris Dodd?

Posted by: LibertarianWoman | May 8, 2009 8:09 AM | Report abuse

Honor is a very rare thing in Washington today, in the legislative, executive, or judicial branches. Without it our Constitution, and our beloved country as the founding fathers envisioned it, is surely doomed. That is a very sad thing, but it is happening before our eyes.

Pelosi, Obama, and most of the other pols are totally lacking Honor, and are destroying our country.

Posted by: HonorTheConstitutiuon | May 8, 2009 8:21 AM | Report abuse

Everyone in Congress has been tainted by the Bush/Cheney Administration because they were lied to and given partial information and just enough information to spread the responsibility around while they proceeded to do whatever they chose to do. That is true with the lead up to the invasion of Iraq, torture, and everything. They used or exploited the support and good will the Congress was trying to maintain for the President following 9/11 and lied, lied, lied.

Posted by: nana4 | May 8, 2009 8:23 AM | Report abuse

Speaking of lies, how about those weapons of mass destruction held by Saddam Hussein? People lie and then people die. In Iraq, over a million people have died. They wouldn't have died if we had not invaded. Now, the people who died in Iraq weren't conservative Republicans, but they were still people. I'll bet some women who died were pregnant, killing their fetuses. Even if Iraq ends up being a miniature version of South Carolina or Oklahoma, we were better off with Saddam Hussein in power, a nonreligious nationalist who hated the Iranian more than we do.

Posted by: tony581 | May 8, 2009 8:25 AM | Report abuse

Like all typical republican...a total case of amnesia.

Lets not forget that there was nothing to stop Coward Bush and Coward Cheney from doing what they did. They broke many laws and any Democrat who disagreed with them were considered "UnAmerican" if you disagreed with the GOP. The Democrats should have stood up but lets not forget that at that time you crazy fundies were in a blood thirsty mood to kill all muslims. Get off of it! Pelosi doesnt need to resign over anything. And all these Democrats have already said they were briefed, they disagreed with the torture and were told by Bush's 3rd grade lawyers that it was all "legal"
You sorry conservative republicans are a joke. You contribute nothing to the discussion except hate. Not one gop poster has said anything about all the lies the Bush administration told to the country in the lead up to the Bush-GOP-Iraq War. And why do you have a problem anyway? You all were for Bush and torture so you got your way. And now your party is sinking like a rock, the demographics for the future of the gop is abysmal. Instead of acting like 12 years olds, you might consider allowing some adults with something more than a high school GED in your party. Ignorance and hate are not good party principals

Get over gop..your party is dead!

Posted by: BFDeal | May 8, 2009 8:26 AM | Report abuse

nana4 - Really? Is that your take on this? How unexpected from a leftist loon. Why not attend an adult education class and learn some critical thinking skills before coming on here with a CRAZY blanket statement. I assume that you use the same statement on every blog and comment section on the Internet - just paste.

Posted by: hdroadkingpd | May 8, 2009 8:29 AM | Report abuse

No big surprise…

It is the typical Democrat move. Act outraged, blame the Republican, deny any knowledge, deny any knowledge again, deny any knowledge one more time, then when the proof surfaces that you are lying, proof that the mainstream media ignores, then come out with new statement: “In a carefully worded statement, Pelosi’s office said today that she had never been briefed about the use of waterboarding, only that it had been approved by Bush administration lawyers as a legal technique to use in interrogations. As this document shows, the Speaker was briefed only once, in September 2002. The briefers described these techniques, said they were legal, but said that waterboarding had not yet been used,” said Pelosi’s spokesman.”
When as a country of free individuals will we step up and demand more from our elected representatives?

I truly believe it is time to clean both houses of Congress, and the White House…

“[It is] the people, to whom all authority belongs.” –Thomas Jefferson

http://brophinator.wordpress.com/

Posted by: Brophinator | May 8, 2009 8:33 AM | Report abuse

BFDeal - you're another one. For a lefty to call anyone, and I mean anyone a coward is pretty hypocritical. Let's see - six-years of financially viable growth under Bush until the lowest rated congress, ever, came into power. Led by Dodd, Pelosi, Frank, and appointees such as Franklin Raines - an Obama buddy. Seems to me it is you with the amnesia. The Democratic Party is dead there pally. Hijacked by leftist loons, and voted into power by knuckleheads such as you on the premise of bumper stickers and tee shirts. The most moronic and childish statements come from people that side with your ideology. Ever see a demonstration by those of us on the right that need riot police? Nope - doesn't happen. Even the ones on the far-right that we don’t agree with can be handled with analytical and critical thought - your people "The Republicans are racists" - unreal. The lack of knowledge and required education on part of the left amazes me - but then again, take a look in the mirror!

Posted by: hdroadkingpd | May 8, 2009 8:36 AM | Report abuse

Well, maybe if you people wanting Pelosi's head on a stick would have supported the effort to impeach George W. Bush, you then would have a legitimate reason for purging Nancy.


She's a lyar you say? NOOOOHHHHH :O


Let's put them all under oath and get this out in the open. We need to air our dirty laundry in public so we can finally put this sad and pathetic period of politics behind us.

The fact that torture was sanctioned should have been grounds enough to toss out Bush/Cheney. Nancy was blocking impeachment all the way, Russ Feingold was the biggest voice I can remember coming from the Senate that was sounding the alarm over torture and of course, the illegal wiretapping that was taking place in America.

We can't allow politicians to lie so boldly and get away with it and most certainly, we can't allow administration officials to go unpunished for their trickery and other high crimes on our dimes.

There must be consequences for their heinous antions. The presidency isn't a lottery prize for the elite to squander as they wish.

Think of it more as a beauty contest in which the candidate is elected based on the overall appeal (looks, speech, heritage, religion, etc.) It's all a show really...however, what I find ironic is that the beauty queens are held to a higher standard than are constitutional lawbreakers.

Case in point, when the beauty queen flashes her boobs in public (or private), she loses her crown...what did Bush/Cheney lose for showing their asses in public?

Posted by: sgurdog | May 8, 2009 8:37 AM | Report abuse

When America is attacked again (not IF, but when) due to the policies of OBAMA, REED, PELOSI and the rest of the Democrat party, should we try these politcians for accessory to MURDER.

They are doing everything they can to attack the people who are trying to protect us and everything they can to release the people who want to kill us!

Posted by: AverageAmericanMichelle | May 8, 2009 8:38 AM | Report abuse

Pelosi is a member of the Democrat Party. That organization is so polluted by liars, perverts, soulless abortionists, and traitors (not to mention lead by demagogues of the like of that Chicago thing, Obama) that one needn't be the least startled by this "revelation." These purely political criminals (Democrat Party) have subverted the Republic and sullied our national identity. I couldn't care less what they discover on these creeping, lizard-like vote-vacuuming bottom feeders. Until they are defeated and their following thwarted, the nation, a godless place, is in grave danger. Pelosi knew of torture?? Laughable, as this vile female creature, so-called, knows the worst of her own dealings and the hideous deeds of the fly-specked beached whale of a criminal gang that her sort call a party (Democrat organization).
I see no hope till this wretched thing (Democrat Organization) is vanquished and the Republic wrenched back from the "Americans" who helped put that curse over out land. Pray they are extirpated and their manure-caked crown tossed into the sea.

Posted by: profsportster | May 8, 2009 8:41 AM | Report abuse

These are a handful of delusional elitists who want to dictate every aspect of our lives. The Democrats will spend the next 60 years making excuses about what's happening right now, it doesn't look that there will be a fall guy for their antics, especially the part where the government used a financial crisis to take ownership of large private industries. This is called Socialism. This Pelosi woman, who appears drunk with power, doesn't seem to be functioning within the world of reality and should undergo a psychological evaluation ASAP without pay.

Posted by: Superpower | May 8, 2009 8:44 AM | Report abuse

"They broke many laws"

They broke NOTHING and none of your whining will change that.

Pelosi is a bloody liar.

Posted by: drjohn3 | May 8, 2009 8:44 AM | Report abuse

"Hans the Auschwitz Guard" a commie in drag seeks to deflect criticism of his class hero, polosi via comic relief. Sadly she is indefensible in either her politics or her feigned innocence.

Posted by: alwanderer | May 8, 2009 8:44 AM | Report abuse

She smoked it but she didn't enhale. I am willing to bet that we are not too far off from Waterboarding being the next new college craze, right along with shooting down beers and swallowing goldfish. I see worse things that people do on reality shows - eating live critters while being submerged in a tank of snakes. And why don't you liberal Dems give up your sushi and udon...you want to know about torture, read what the Japenese did to Americans. Oh, I forgot, they were only Americans.

Posted by: TypicalGringo | May 8, 2009 8:46 AM | Report abuse

I am all for prosecuting every republican and democrat responsible for the legalization of torture....including Bush and CHeney and EVERYONE in the Bush administration.

I am more than happy to see Pelosi, Reid and any democrat who didnt stand up to fight....Oh but wait..The Dems will not face any criminal charges because it was the Bush Justice Department that said all was legal!...

You conservatives will grasp at anything. How sad it must be to have such a small slow working brain that doesnt allow you to think in the 21st century. No wonder your party is dead. And wait until after 2010....Look at 64-67 seante seats and 270-275 in the house.
You lose an election and all of a sudden the talk of secession is hot. I keep hoping these ignorant backwood states like Texas, Oklahoma, Alabama, South Carolina and Georgia leave the Union. In fact I dont understand why conservatives dont charter a boat to Somalia and start a new country. Its the perfect place to start. They have no governemt so you will be able to jam your politics down their throats and while youre at it, you can have massive babtisms....Aweseome.....Since you conservatives hate America so much, do us all a favor and leave.

Posted by: BFDeal | May 8, 2009 8:47 AM | Report abuse

"The fact that torture was sanctioned should have been grounds enough to toss out Bush/Cheney."

It's funny. You guys have regard for neither facts nor the law.

Congress twice had a chance to call waterboarding torture and it refused. Pelosi did not object to waterboarding back then. Bush sought legal opinions and got them prior to doing anything. You might not like those opinions now in the comfort of warm and sunny and safe days but he did get them as he should have done.

You'd well not to substitute your fantasies for your facts in daily life.

Posted by: drjohn3 | May 8, 2009 8:52 AM | Report abuse

OMG, Issue an indictment NOW. She and Jane Harman must be brought before the highest court in the land and pilloried on the bar of justice. Oh wait, she issued a CAREFULLY worded statement which will help and question her use/meaning of the word "used". When are we going to rid ourselves of these people who continue to count political coup and expand upon every "crisis" in order to continue their propaganda attack against the citizens of the United States?

Posted by: Czechbikr | May 8, 2009 8:57 AM | Report abuse

The botox must be killing her brain cells, she either has dementia, Alzheimer's, or she is flat out lying biache'. I would go with lying, but reguardless, I would think there is enough grounds to force her out. Can America tolerate a certified liar as the Speaker of the House, I definately wouldn't want one who can't remember being briefed on an issue as hot as torture.

Posted by: jeckelmyhyde | May 8, 2009 9:07 AM | Report abuse

Is someone in the MSM sick ? How could the truth be told ? How long did the MSM have this information ?
I assume the MSM has always had this information and much more bad news they've hid from the public at large.
Now the "O" is president without vetting we are in for an awful time, a black eye, in American history equal to the slavery.
The agenda the media had against American democracy during the presidential campaign is most disturbing and harmful to America. It's effects can never be forgiven.

Posted by: pane1 | May 8, 2009 9:08 AM | Report abuse

Everyone needs to wake up and realize we have been lied to for DECADES! Every politician in Washington needs to go. If we can't get term limits put in place, we can use the ballot to limit them.

Do not re-elect Incumbent Politicians.

Audit the Fed (HR1207).

Whether you claim to be a democrat or a republican (small caps on purpose) you cannot say that the Democrats/Republicans in Washington represent you.

Wake up and quit fighting each other!

Posted by: LibertarianWoman | May 8, 2009 9:09 AM | Report abuse

If I thought waterboarding could bring back the 2,752 lost American souls I'd personally waterboard anyone on Guantanamo
Bay for the info. Waterboarding saved untold lives in L.A. but I guess you don't know what you've got til it's gone.Pelosi's
stench permiates Congress and spreads to all of us with an agenda only achieved through lies and deceit.

Posted by: rmoorejr30 | May 8, 2009 9:10 AM | Report abuse

Two words:

TERM LIMITS

Posted by: amt4321 | May 8, 2009 9:10 AM | Report abuse

Democrats lying to America over, and over, and over again. Whats on the news tonight....hmmmm "The president takes a romantic stroll with the first lady".

B.T.W. Dian and Stephenopolis, your "mission accomplished" statements are even more premature than Bush's. 8.9% is not the only roadside bomb that you ignore either.

Posted by: natb1 | May 8, 2009 9:12 AM | Report abuse

Bet Pelosi would tell the truth if she were waterboarded.

Posted by: JAH3 | May 8, 2009 9:16 AM | Report abuse

Yes, the mainstream media needs to be investigated to find out who is responsible for publishing the truth...this is an outrage!

Posted by: Superpower | May 8, 2009 9:16 AM | Report abuse

We Developed "non lethal" devices to save criminals lives, but if you tazed a head chopping savage to save women and children, thats a crime.

Police and soldiers voluntarily subject themselves to these things, yet liberal people cry about jehadists being offended.

Posted by: natb1 | May 8, 2009 9:18 AM | Report abuse

Well, Well, Well where are all of the San Francisco Liberal's that support their lying Representative? It is my belief that all Representatives and Senator's should be put on "Leave w/out Pay" for a couple of years until we can get our country back. I see a lot of comments about "Resignation", but I haven't seen anyone saying that a Recall should be performed by her District to remove her from office. You see folks, this is the reason we need "Term Limits" to prevent the corrupt politician's from becoming more and more corrupt. I would urge every state to place "Term Limits" on the ballots for future elections. This is the only way that we can prevent politicians from thinking that we all work for them vs they work for us "The People".

Posted by: jamescnugent | May 8, 2009 9:19 AM | Report abuse

Pelosi is a worthless old lying hag who would do or say anything to advance her cause! Where are all of you blind sheep that claimed GWB was a liar? We won't hear from you because you are hypocrites just like your stretched-faced, botox-abusing House leader.

Posted by: tellall1 | May 8, 2009 9:20 AM | Report abuse

When they said "enhanced", Pelosi thought they were talking about cosmetic surgery.

Posted by: Superpower | May 8, 2009 9:23 AM | Report abuse

Judging from many of these comments there are quite a few self loathing crazy people out there that have watched way too many Hollywood conspiracy movies. I’m sure if you were in power you’d do a much better job. Sort of like the French Revolutionaries… great/smart people until they decided to destroy their country and guillotine all those who opposed them. Oh, and you're right, global warming, swine flu and ED are all Bush's fault.

Posted by: stopthemadness1 | May 8, 2009 9:26 AM | Report abuse

A Leftist San Francisco Moonbat AND a Liar.
Two heartbeats away from the presidency.
WAKE UP AMERICA!

Posted by: pedro97w | May 8, 2009 9:27 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: typgwb | May 8, 2009 9:30 AM | Report abuse

Oops! But really, when you come out bold face wagging the finger at the cameras swearing up and down you did not....you were never...what did you think would happen? Everyone else you acuse would just role over and play nice doggy? Cold Busted Woman!

Posted by: MacCane | May 8, 2009 9:30 AM | Report abuse

Of course she knew, they all knew. They all know. And they all know that they must continue the EIT's in order to keep us safe. They just don't want to admit they knew because a bunch of America haters are more concerned about the comfort level of mass murderers than they are about protecting their country and the people in it. Grow a pair and tell them what we're going to do. Tell them what awaits them if they commit or plan terrorist acts. And tell all these wusses that if you commit yourself to terror you are going to be, at the very very least, UNCOMFORTABLE! Now shut up about it.

PS This is nothing compared to what they should be doing.

Posted by: bighed227 | May 8, 2009 9:32 AM | Report abuse

I think that we should give Madame Speaker the benefit of the doubt. I think that she is too stupid to know what she was hearing and that is why her recollection is less than perfect.

Posted by: krobulak | May 8, 2009 9:34 AM | Report abuse

COME ON NON-BIASED MAINSTREAM MEDIA, IF YOU'RE AS UNBIASED AS YOU SAY YOU ARE YOU WOULD POUND THIS STORY DAY AFTER DAY UNTIL SHE RESIGNS! WE'RE WAITING!!!!!

Posted by: penitentiary_steel | May 8, 2009 9:36 AM | Report abuse

Torture? I'll tell you what's torture.... it's having this devious, unscrupled, lying, incompetent woman as Speaker of the House! That's torture America will feel for a long time!

Posted by: prfrye60 | May 8, 2009 9:37 AM | Report abuse

tony wrote: “....Speaking of lies, how about those weapons of mass destruction held by Saddam Hussein? People lie and then people die. In Iraq, over a million people have died...”

I laugh when people (mostly the msm) refer to the war in Iraq as - “Bush’s War” – when every Democrat the world has known supported it, begged for it, and voted for it. They “all” wanted to go to war in the first place....long before Bush was elected....long before 9/11.

“One way or another, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is the bottom line.”
President Bill Clinton – Feb 4, 1998

And trust me – this is just one who speaks for them all. Madeline Albright, Sandy Berger, Gore, Kennedy, Pelosi, Waxman, Rockefeller and Hillary, et al - are all on record. They all had the same information at the same time – as we did. The “good gentlemen and women” just backtracked (see the Pelosi act of today) – as they always do...a few years later.

google - “The Iraq War Resolution of 2002”

then - “500 Tons of Uranium Yellowcake secretly moved from Iraq to Canada”

What Bush did in Iraq was by the law – he followed the constitution – he followed protocol.

But what the Democrats and the msm – whom over the past eight years have successfully done....was to blur truth into oblivion. The left did this while aiding and abetting a sworn enemy of this county. What the left in this country have done since 9/11 was a treasonous act against this country.

The war in Iraq was won because George Bush had the backbone and the guts required - to do what was right for this country. He did not fail this country. He did his job.

Posted by: rto1 | May 8, 2009 9:46 AM | Report abuse

Those of you who are surprised that "Pelousy" lied are as stupid as she is crooked!

Posted by: skyboy | May 8, 2009 9:48 AM | Report abuse

All our hands are dirty..knowing or not..

Posted by: billzing | May 8, 2009 9:48 AM | Report abuse

O God- did you see a picture of the deceitful, hating, selfish, swindling, power-tripping traitor beyatch? What a fugly, vile, disgusting, worthless, hypoctritical wretch of a human being it is. How and in what system of logic and goodness did it get to be in such a powerful position? PUBLIC TRUST? That evil piece of garbage is in a position of PUBLIC TRUST? It goes to visit foreign enemies in war time, against the requests (not needed!!) of the president!!! HAng the traitor!!! Where are the people who took an oath to protect and serve the people? The lawmen- are there ANY LAWMEN out there? Hello>???? There are a whole lot more to get, once pelosi is locked up!!

Posted by: starvingactor | May 8, 2009 9:48 AM | Report abuse

I think enough information is now available where a reasonable person could limit this "controversy" to only two possible conclusions: 1.) She's a liar; 2.) She's so incredibly deaf & dumb stupid the she of all people, after being one of the first to be briefed years ago, mind you, didn't know what was going on. Speaker Of The House since 2004! Nancy, honey, we do agree on one thing - there's a lot of very, very stupid, naive people in this country, especially in your district. But you're going to have a hard time selling this one. Darlin, you've brought a turd to the marketplace. I'm going to enjoy every minute of watching you try to keep sellin it.

By the way, has FOX intervued Porter Goss yet?

Posted by: SirTennyson | May 8, 2009 9:49 AM | Report abuse

"Let me get this straight. Desperate Conservatives who applauded the Bush Gangs approval of these techniques, are condemning Nancy for knowing about them and not telling, even though she was forbidden by law to do so? Seems like your protests - like your principals - are a bit misguided."

Posted by: rhahn2 | May 7, 2009 10:08 PM

No, you don't have it straight. Pelosi is being condemned for lying about not knowing about this when she actually did, and for using this lie to go after Bush admin lawyers. The protests and principals are right in line. Thanks for trying to redefine the premise of this entire debate and ignore the main point - dishonesty.

Posted by: none8 | May 8, 2009 9:52 AM | Report abuse

Pelosi is so filled with hatred and bitterness it overshadows any small chance at doing some good for the country. She wields her power like some mad man running amok with an ax swinging at whoever he see in his warped mind as a possible enemy. This sick woman is 3rd in line for the presidency, that is the really frighting part. Her demands on her minions in the congress, and for the passing of so many special interest projects are well known. Her gross misuse of our monies for her own special perks, demands to have a military jet ready to take her anywhere, anytime. She needs to be replaced with someone with sanity.

Posted by: enigmaforever | May 8, 2009 9:52 AM | Report abuse

Good Morning, All--

Personally, I find it refreshing that "San Fran Nan" would sanction something like EITs for selected high-value individuals. I thought she was totally oblivious to the requirements of national defense.

On the other hand, if we're going to pursue disciplinary action against former Bush legal officials, I believe we should do the same with our elected officials. Given their perks, salaries, and constitutional responsibilities, I believe they're more accountable than political appointees.

Have a blessed day---

Posted by: eskie1212 | May 8, 2009 9:54 AM | Report abuse

Maybe all the BOTOX POISON will leak out of Her face and She will feel much better. She might pull that stick out of Her Arse too!
YOU NEVER KNOW!
WHAT A BIOUTCH!

Posted by: I_USED_TO_BE_A_LIB | May 8, 2009 9:58 AM | Report abuse

In 1775, Samuel Adams wrote a letter to James Warren in which he said, in part, "Since private and publick Vices, are in Reality, though not always apparently, so nearly connected, of how much Importance, how necessary is it, that the utmost Pains be taken by the Publick, to have the Principles of Virtue early inculcated on the Minds even of children, and the moral Sense kept alive, and that the wise institutions of our Ancestors for these great Purposes be encouraged by the Government. For no people will tamely surrender their Liberties, nor can any be easily subdued, when knowledge is diffusd and Virtue is preservd. On the Contrary, when People are universally ignorant, and debauchd in their Manners, they will sink under their own weight without the Aid of foreign Invaders." It's too bad people in this country have given up on their own history of what made this nation great. The lying Democrats have polarized this country to the point where more than half are so stupid and dumbed down that the likes of Obama and Pelosi will completely destroy this nation, without any foreign invasion whatsoever. We're there now! Watch! Our Constitution has been shredded and our rights and privileges stripped. To continue this hypocrisy guarantees the end of the greatest nation on earth, and it was done completely through lies!

Posted by: AmericanBelle1 | May 8, 2009 10:00 AM | Report abuse

Democrat mission statement:

Encourage freedom from moral restraints and authority. Freedom to lie . . . do whatever, say whatever, and live whatever you please without taking responsibility. Freedom to plunder property to pay for the costly consequences. Wake up America, your being taken to the cleaners by dirty mafia crooks.

Posted by: aggieservices | May 8, 2009 10:00 AM | Report abuse

"Let me get this straight. Desperate Conservatives who applauded the Bush Gangs approval of these techniques, are condemning Nancy for knowing about them and not telling, even though she was forbidden by law to do so? Seems like your protests - like your principals - are a bit misguided.
Posted by: rhahn2 | May 7, 2009 10:08 PM"

You're missing the point. SHE HAS DENIED KNOWING that the EIT's were being used while persecuting the people who used them. A bit hypocritical by any reasonable person's standards.

Posted by: cyberties | May 8, 2009 10:02 AM | Report abuse

...I'm hearing strong rumblings that 3 liberal Democrats are considering running in SanFran against Pelosi.

2 of the 3 are said to be high profile, one is simply a vocal activist in the peace movement.

It takes alot of Pelosi/Delasandro crime family chutzpah to pound the Republicans on Torture having known about it all the time.

I can't believe she actually lied about knowing something she was briefed on as a Intelligence Committee Leader.

Wow.

Posted by: rbmiller1 | May 8, 2009 10:02 AM | Report abuse

The culture of corruption is alive and well in the Democratic party. This woman is a bold faced liar. Harry Ried has land deals. Chris Dodd has a very lenient loan officer. Obama got a sweet heart deal on his house. Charlie Rangel doesn't like paying taxes. Barney Frank has his boyfriend in Fannie Mae, Tim Geithner doesn't like paying taxes, or any other cabinet member for that matter (it's for the little people). William Jefferson stores tens of thousands of dollars in his freezer. Bill Richardson has some great campaign contributors. The list is indeed long. All the Republicans had Larry Craig in a bathroom and Mark Foley, who only sent emails to a younger page (nothing else proven). Boy do the Republicans have to do a lot to catch up to the Democrats. But Nancy has to truly be the dimmest bulb on the string.

Posted by: timmeh5564 | May 8, 2009 10:04 AM | Report abuse

Pelosi and her ilk will now go crawl under the proverbial rock until the MSM tells her that they have distracted the people from her LIES. Then her and all the other Dems that knew everything about the water boarding then lied about it will slither back like garden slugs.

Posted by: PupsMcCann | May 8, 2009 10:04 AM | Report abuse

IT amazes me that the democreats ever electer this woman as speaker.

Posted by: Hunthorse | May 8, 2009 10:05 AM | Report abuse

The culture of corruption during the Obama administration knows no bounds.

This is the first of many and She said the Republicans were corrupt in 2006. This Crowd of the 110th & 111th congress has nothing on the 109th congress.

Posted by: I_USED_TO_BE_A_LIB | May 8, 2009 10:07 AM | Report abuse

Pelosi, We in Texas will gladly detain all illegal aliens and instead of deporting to Mexico, buy them a bus ticket to California, and let them live in peace. Lets all do our part. Deport illeagals to California., the new "Other Country" Pelosi will always be re-elected to congress, we cannot stop the idiots she serves. But we can stop her from destroying our country. Give them 11 million new citizens for her new "other country" They won't care if she lies. The current citizens apparently don't.

Posted by: bhughes3 | May 8, 2009 10:10 AM | Report abuse

"I dont understand why conservatives dont charter a boat to Somalia and start a new country......Since you conservatives hate America so much, do us all a favor and leave."

Posted by: BFDeal | May 8, 2009 8:47 AM

Then who would pay for all of the wealth redistribution in this country and cover all of the taxes? The utter dependency of so many on conservatives would see this country collapse almost instantly if conservatives left. If liberals and conservatives split into two separate countries, I'll let you figure out who would be coming to whom for help.

Posted by: none8 | May 8, 2009 10:11 AM | Report abuse

Some, not all. I repeat some of these Pigs lie so much they forget where the lies were told and were the 1/2 truth was told. She just made a mistake. Everyone does that right? WRONG!

Posted by: I_USED_TO_BE_A_LIB | May 8, 2009 10:13 AM | Report abuse

Nancy sounds like Clinton " I didn't have sex with that woman "
The fact is that she lied and was trying to embarrass the CIA and the Bush administration. She is an opportunists a lousy politician and a liar. That is why her name should be pronounced PIG-LOUSY.

Posted by: jaitop | May 8, 2009 10:16 AM | Report abuse

"seemingly contradicting"? Ya think?

Both Republicans and Democrats were deeply involved in the CIA interrogations, just like how both were deeply involved in all the other issues presently being dealt with. For example, Barney Frank notoriously obstructed numerous probes into Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, which might have headed off or minimized the current housing crisis. Democrats have controlled Congress since 2006.

Yet now the Democrats are backpedalling furiously. At least the Republicans have the dignity to stick to their guns on issues they believe in. Nothing is more pathetic than a fair weather politician, and the worst part is that we've recently elected one. Obama changes his story so often I'm starting to wonder if he has an evil twin.

Posted by: zippyspeed | May 8, 2009 10:19 AM | Report abuse

Don't get caught in the false Rep/Dem paradigm. The Globalists own both parties.

Technologies like Diebold ELECTRONIC 'voting' machines guarantee a winner for the Bad Guys every time. Congress is bought and paid for for the most part.
The Federal Reserve and the illegally passed Income Tax are what's destroying this country. Those frauds have been trucking right along since 1913 and all you need to perpetuate fraud, are people like, well, Pelosi and 99% of all the other Shills that pass for 'representatives' these days. Wake up folks!

Most of the 'terrorists' held were teenage goat herders who know that Al Quaida (or any spelling derivation thereof) means the database (as in the database created for the Mujahideen by our SECDEF Robert Gates in 1979). No one in any cave made NORAD stand down on September 11th.
It's all a fraud ladies and gents!
We've been lied to and tricked and fooled all our lives!
It's the same agenda as when Kennedy was killed! The same people!
The CIA deals in deception. It's their trade.
Pelosi deals in deception!
Bush deals in deception!
O-B-A-M-A?
D-E-C-E-P-T-I-O-N!

Posted by: tim_vegan | May 8, 2009 10:20 AM | Report abuse

I'm not much good at making and posting videos, so someone do this for us: Make a video featuring a line of hooded men standing behind their "captive" seated in an orange jump suit with his knees pulled up to his chest and hands tied behind his back. They read a statement denouncing Islamic enemies and, after their declaration, they shove the captive to the ground and place a caterpillar on his chest or pour water on his face while shouting "America! America!" Then, when they've had their laugh, they play loud music and tell him he's not going to get any sleep tonight. So he'd better talk, or they'll get out the COMFY CHAIR!!

Posted by: jwebb41 | May 8, 2009 10:21 AM | Report abuse

What does Nancy Pelosi know ... and when did she know it! OsiSpeaks[dot]com

Posted by: KYJurisDoctor | May 8, 2009 10:22 AM | Report abuse

Did you'all take a look at her picture? Whew! Didn't she have her ears pinned back right before she became Speaker? Well, obviously, everything has fallen back down! Probably because she knows she's stepped in it this time, big time! Man, it shows! I sincerely hope she goes down in absolute, total disgrace. I really do. Can you imagine this fruitcake being president?

Posted by: SirTennyson | May 8, 2009 10:24 AM | Report abuse

Let's see the PDF of the memo, Mr. Kane.

Posted by: mark_bannick | May 8, 2009 10:27 AM | Report abuse

Free Miguel Tejada

Posted by: PMAN | May 8, 2009 10:29 AM | Report abuse

So, the Left in this country can't even see the double standard here? either they're incredibly stupid or immoral.

Posted by: thebink | May 8, 2009 10:35 AM | Report abuse

Of course she knew about it then denounced it when the news became public, the same way Hillary voted for the war "against her better judgement" and Kerry voted "for funding the troops BEFORE he voted against it." Liberal Democrats are filled with deceit and contradictions.

Posted by: OhYeahBabe | May 8, 2009 10:37 AM | Report abuse

"As this document shows, the Speaker was briefed only once, in September 2002. The briefers described these techniques, said they were legal, but said that waterboarding had not yet been used,"

SO WHAT'S ALL THE FUSS ABOUT?

Politics as usual from a desperate and pitiful party. The tea party of Limbaugh!
So do Bush & Cheney, Rice, Rumsfeld go up in flames also. The poor soldiers who put their lives on the line have already taken the heat for this and are in Jail as we speak. Guess what? For following orders! Who's orders? Bush & Cheney, Rice, Rumsfeld! You Repukes are disgraceful.

Posted by: minco_007 | May 8, 2009 10:38 AM | Report abuse

Pelosi needs to be forced out. The woman is a constant liar and manipulator. And beyond arrogant. She will never resign on her own because she thinks she's the queen. She, Arnold, Diane and Barbara all need to be forced out of politics by Californians before the state is officially declared dead.

Posted by: kathryn211 | May 8, 2009 10:38 AM | Report abuse

When the Dems yelled, "Bush Lied!" they were lying. They lie about everything. Barak was lying yesterday about his ridiculous 'budget cuts'. Clinton spent eight years in the White House and never told the truth once. The libs didnt even pretend that he was honest. Dittos for that sanctimonious Stalinist harlot who was lying about being his wife. The libs are lying about Global Warming, it doesnt exist and they know it. They lie when they pretend to be 'moderates' instead of the left-wing commies that they are to fool the droolers in the electorate. They lie when they pay ACORN to create new phony voters to tip close elections. So now we're supposed to be surprised that this botoxed, surgery-scarred, fork-tongued, daffy old broad is lying to help the other lying libs prosecute the people who interrogated the Dems' terrorist allies using what anyone else in the world would call gentle and restrained tactics against these homicidal savages whose only dream in life is to murder as many of us as they can. What a tragedy that flight 93 didnt reach its destination in the US Capitol and incinerate this pack of mendacious terrorist-loving, lying cowards.

Posted by: skep41 | May 8, 2009 10:45 AM | Report abuse

Shockingly,we Nancy "let em cake" Pelosi lied? It comes as no surprise that she and her ilk would be more concerned protecting our enemies than protecting our country. We should waterboard her so we can get the truth about waterboarding.

Posted by: Mickey1776 | May 8, 2009 10:47 AM | Report abuse

Nancy is a piece of crap

Posted by: ireaditinthepress | May 8, 2009 10:48 AM | Report abuse

georg, dick, condi, wolfie, donald. Barrack, Rahm, hillary, brezshy, sorros. The Gangs all here. the nightmare lives on. Achtung baby....

Posted by: bewarethefourthreich | May 8, 2009 10:49 AM | Report abuse

What a horrid woman...In Iraq Porklosi and her sisters Barnacle Frank, Harriet Reid, Chuckles Scheemer, Diane Frankenstein, Cuddles Kennedy, Scary Kerry, et al would have gotten fragged for just being their own integrity deficient unpleasant selves.

Posted by: Sadrrocks | May 8, 2009 10:50 AM | Report abuse

Gawd:
Again, from the story:

The memo, issued by the Director of National Intelligence and the Central Intelligence Agency to Capitol Hill, notes the Pelosi-Goss briefing covered "EITs including the use of EITs on Abu Zubaydah." EIT is an acronym for enhanced interrogation technique. Zubaydah was one of the earliest valuable al-Qaeda members captured and the first to have the controversial tactic known as water boarding used against him.

Posted by: Antoinette1 | May 8, 2009 10:55 AM | Report abuse

Pelosi is a liar! Is anybody with a moral standard surprised? I'm not! She's lied before. This really reflects on the majority of the voters in California. They are either Naive or 1 D 10 T's! This must mean that the majority of voters in CA are also without a moral standard - lying must be OK and maybe even encouraged! People of integrity can't get elected to public office, because if you can't be bought, then "they" will insure that you won't get elected!

Posted by: Honest_American | May 8, 2009 10:59 AM | Report abuse

All of these folks should be removed and a clean slate be started. They now rank below used car salesmen and Owl poop, choose your pick....Get rid of nancy and get someone who represents what they are suppose to do.. US...Nancy is a discrace and should be removed including her teeth,, what a set,, wonder where she got those from??? Sorry but they need to go. Anything to make it look like it was all the Republicans fault.. They all knew about it, they all approved it, they all were paid for it, they ALL need to go, but how to you remove them when they are entrenched so deep. Continued investigations will reveal the truth...

Posted by: designbo | May 8, 2009 10:59 AM | Report abuse

It is more, and more, apparent that Washington, DC, both parties, represent only themselves.

I urge every American, to vote out everyone currently in office in the next election, and to keep voting them out, until we finally get a group that will represent each and everyone of us.

Sincerely yours,

Jim DeHart
Tracy, CA

Posted by: jdehart | May 8, 2009 11:00 AM | Report abuse

Democrats- just be admitting to being a democrat, knowing what the common knowledge of democrats is, are suffering a disease of the mind. They are narcissistic psychopathic vermin. They hate the USA, and perform the acts of our enemies while being anti-human. The border is still unprotected, and they are talking about giving citizenship to invaders in war time. WHY ARE THEY ALIVE STILL?

Posted by: starvingactor | May 8, 2009 11:05 AM | Report abuse

Pelosi, just one more reason why there should be term limits in both branches of government. We can call her all the names she really is but she has been re-elected and re-elected... Whose fault is that? We don't hold these people accountable for their actions.
Republicans and Democrats, they are all the same and to blame for where this country now sits. Those like Reid, McCain, Pelosi, Specter, Murtha, Graham, John Rockefeller, Bayh, Russ Feingold, Barry Frank, Ted Kennedy, where the hell did these clowns come from and why do they keep getting re-elected? Name recognition is the only thing I can think of. And now the political parties bring on those like Acorn to ferry illegals to the polls.
This country elects a junior Senator with no experience, say all you want but look at how he has represented our country abroad since he has been in office. If those above had a clue they would have taken him on a short retreat and given him so lessons on how to be a President and what the office really is about before they let him parade around. There is no doubt Bush made mistakes, tell me which President since Washington hasn't, but one thing Bush did was show honor and dignity for his country and never bowed to anyone!
None of these elected officials are bigger than the country they have been elected to represent, those like Pelosi have forgotten that, and we keep re-elected them, so we only have ourselves to blame.

Posted by: bweisz | May 8, 2009 11:07 AM | Report abuse

To paraphrase an old joke about lawyers. How can you tell when a Democrat is lying?

His (or in this case, her lips) are moving.

Nancy "Deer in the Headlights" Pelosi is clearly a disgrace to the Democratic Party and to the nation. What ever became of the party of Roosevelt and Truman?

In my humble opinion, the decline of the Democratic Party began with the preaching, incompetent Jimmy Carter who devastated the economy and allowed America to become hostage to the world. Sound familiar? As Yogi Berra might say, "Deja vu all over again?"

And then Bill "I did not have sex with that woman" Clinton came slithering out of the backwaters of Arkansas. And now we have Barack Obama, who like Slick Willy, craftily pretends to be someone he is not. Isn't that the greatest lie of all?

There is something systemically wrong with the Democratic Party when it sells its soul just to get a yahoo from Arkansas elected President and now to get a smooth-talking used car salesman and his Chicago sleazoids into the White House.

It is amazing that the only Democrat who tells the truth (and quite by accident) is that great plagiarizing buffoon Joe Biden.

Winning isn't everything. What matters is how one wins. Anyone who cheats by lying has lost his or her self-respect and reputation. It is far better to keep one's honor and dignity. Far better for the country, too.

Posted by: Jerzy | May 8, 2009 11:09 AM | Report abuse

Pelosi, just one more reason why there should be term limits in both branches of government. We can call her all the names she really is but she has been re-elected and re-elected... Whose fault is that? We don’t hold these people accountable for their actions.
Republicans and Democrats, they are all the same and to blame for where this country now sits. Those like Reid, McCain, Pelosi, Specter, Murtha, Graham, John Rockefeller, Bayh, Russ Feingold, Barry Frank, Ted Kennedy, where the hell did these clowns come from and why do they keep getting re-elected? Name recognition is the only thing I can think of. And now the political parties bring on those like Acorn to ferry illegals to the polls.
This country elects a junior Senator with no experience, say all you want but look at how he has represented our country abroad since he has been in office. If those above had a clue they would have taken him on a short retreat and given him so lessons on how to be a President and what the office really is about before they let him parade around. There is no doubt Bush made mistakes, tell me which President since Washington hasn't, but one thing Bush did was show honor and dignity for his country and never bowed to anyone!
None of these elected officials are bigger than the country they have been elected to represent, those like Pelosi have forgotten that, and we keep re-elected them, so we only have ourselves to blame.

Posted by: bweisz | May 8, 2009 11:10 AM | Report abuse

I hope you all know that Waterboarding is NOTHING compared to the torture inflicted on prisoners sent to Egypt for interrogation by their notorious secret police--many of whom may have been little more than suspects. And who initiated this program? CLINTON did it in 1995!

Posted by: billslayer | May 8, 2009 11:12 AM | Report abuse

If Pilosi or any Democrat participated in torture, the formulation of torture policy, or the coverup of torture; then prosecute them as well. Two wrongs do not a right make. Oposition to torture is a matter of being civilized. It is not a partisan issue.

Posted by: larrygeater | May 8, 2009 11:16 AM | Report abuse

Il Duce Pelosi is a lying disgrace to the country and the American people and needs to be removed in shakles immediately.

Posted by: bankroller | May 8, 2009 11:16 AM | Report abuse

While I am not surprised in the least that Pelosi was actively complicit in something she vehemently denies (not the first or even 100th time), what completely boggles my mind are the lengthy and overreaching posts from people still trying to somehow make it all George Bush's fault. Are you people functionally brain dead, or are you just committed to living in a fantasy of your own creation because it validates your view of the world?

Folks, are you really walking around believing that all Republicans are bad, George Bush is their evil leader, and the Democrats are all good and righteous and only do wrong when they are tricked or lied to? This is INFANTILE! (though in all fairness, all you Republicans who think the exact opposite are just as retarded) You are an adult infant if you think like this. 95+% of DEMOCRATS voted to go into Iraq. Clearly Pelosi ABSOLUTELY KNEW about waterboarding and its use. We will never move forward as a country until we ALL realize that the partisanship we see in the media is intended for one purpose and that is to distract us. The Democrats and Republicans live, work and socialize together regularly. They are a close knit group, and regardless of what you see in the papers, they are all in everything together. Democrats and Republicans alike will 10 times out of 10 make decisions that protect their own collective interests before yours or mine. Now that it is clear that Pelosi has misrepresented documented facts about every position she has ever stated about the Iraq war, tell me why it has taken 6 years for someone to call her bluff. Especially when Evil George Bush and his cronies were in charge for 5 of those years. If you are living your life believing that the Democrats are the Autobots and the Republicans are the Decepticons, do us all a favor and get a labotomy, so at least you'll have an excuse. But otherwise, you need to wake up from this fantasy and help the rest of us take our country back. If Nancy Pelosi is STILL denying her knowledge of Abu Ghraib prisoners being waterboarded, do you think she's gonna swoop to the rescue when they're waterboarding YOU? Keep dreaming...

Posted by: shesgruesome | May 8, 2009 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Maybe we should contract out our prisoner interrogation. That generally is what happens when a company can no longer handle the job or doesn't want the responsibility. China would be a good contractor, probably would do the job cheaper. Lets see.... CIA China Intellegence Agency We wouldn't even have the expence of changing the letters.

Posted by: bhughes3 | May 8, 2009 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Fascinating! Pelosi has been caught in another lie. Nothing new there. What is really amusing is the way all of the liberals are trying to wiggle out of the situation and still evade responsibility for their actions. That has been their way of operating since Carter. When they screw up somehow, they always look for someone else to blame or a way to evade responsibility. It is all so predictable. Just watch. When the photos of the terrorist interrogations are released, there will be a rise in violence by the jihadis. The liberals will say, "It's not OUR fault." If, God forbid, we are attacked in another 9/11-style attack, you will hear the SAME thing. Despite the fact that Obama has exposed all of our techniques for dealing with terrorists and has weakened both our intelligence and defense operations, they will try to blame Bush. Bush kept us SAFE for 7 years. With Obama and his liberal cronies, we are LESS SAFE. The CIA and other intelligence gathering agencies have been told, "You don't have any protection if you try to do your job." The liberals have effectively made our intelligence agencies deaf, dumb, and blind.

Posted by: perseus317 | May 8, 2009 11:27 AM | Report abuse

You gotta love media types like this Kane.

The documents "seemingly contradict" Pelosi.

Is there any doubt in anybody's mind that had this been Rumsfeld, Gonzales, Cheney or Boehner the contradiction would be a bit more definitive?

You always need to be on the alert for the subtleties in the media's kid glove treatment of The Left.

Posted by: JimboWHO | May 8, 2009 11:27 AM | Report abuse

This is a mere tip of the iceberg. Even the Plame case was extremely mild. I've always been an advocate that every single member of House and Senate be tried before a jury within SCIFs (Secure Closed Information Forums) for all of the security violations that they've made. Anyone with a high enough security clearance knows how many of these clowns have done for which us ordinary folks would have gotten life terms. The rest of public should only know which ones lose their seats and wind up with life terms.

Posted by: TL40 | May 8, 2009 11:29 AM | Report abuse

I sure hope my liberal friends hold her to the same standard they always want to hold republicans too, and will join me in calling for Nancy Pelosi to resign immediately.

Posted by: gwmurray | May 8, 2009 11:31 AM | Report abuse

She is NOTHING! but a DAMNED liar!

Resign!

Posted by: dusty70 | May 8, 2009 11:31 AM | Report abuse

HaHaHa!Remember when all the inside stuff from the Bush CIA, Justice Department and Intelligence agencies was regularly leaked to the NY Times, etc.. We all knew it was done by disgruntled employees who were originally a part of the Clinton administration. Every Democrat wet his pants in glee over what they saw. Our genius POTUS never figured out that the same thing would happen to him and his minions when he started to destroy their careers with cuts, memo releases, threats of prosecution and the rest! This is only the beginning. These folks aren't gonna sit back and let these jerks destroy their careers and their country! Pelosi and the rest are habitual liars. That's how they get to the top! How does that old saying go- "payback is a b**ch! You go guys- keep leaking this stuff, it's the only way we'll know the truth! Instead of prosecuting those who tried to keep us safe, let's go after the frauds who for eight years have tried to insure our defeat and are continuing to do so as members of this corrupt administration! Cudos to the leakers!!!!

Posted by: yankee11 | May 8, 2009 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Hey guys. Lay off of Pelosi. She's one of you!

Posted by: YellowLabsRule | May 8, 2009 11:48 AM | Report abuse

IMO I have no idea how anyone could possibly listen to her and think that she is anything other than a hot bag of wind that changes direction at a whim.

He new nickname on the Hill is "Cuckoo" Pelosi and there is now a petition going around internally to congressional members of staff, to have her committed to St. Elizabeth's Hospital in DC while she is in town for the good of the nation.

Posted by: indep2 | May 8, 2009 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Well, I'm shocked. Pelosi a liar? Democrats not saints? Obama a living piece of doo?

Who knew!

Posted by: wdjrel | May 8, 2009 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Pelosi always has that perpetual look of surprise. Now we know why.....her lies even shock her!

Posted by: mrsharfer | May 8, 2009 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Don't worry people I'm sure the award winning "journalist" Katie Couric will be questioning Pelosi like there is no tomorrow! /sarc

Posted by: PupsMcCann | May 8, 2009 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Funny how the CIA outs Dems but seldom Republican. Also, is this the issue...that Pelosi knew? Aren't we missing the bigger picture -- that is -- if Pelosi knew, then the President knew. I thought we wanted to go to the source, not hold subordinants accountable. So who are the bosses? Let's hang them all.

Posted by: slovespa | May 8, 2009 12:07 PM | Report abuse

Can anyone defend this sad, lying sack of s**t?

Il Duce Pelosi needs to apologize to the American people and resign in disgrace immediately.

Posted by: bankroller | May 8, 2009 12:08 PM | Report abuse

It's amazing any have been stupid enough to believe a word this woman says. She's not even a good liar, yet there's millions of dupes who buy into her crap. Hang her from a light post in front of the capitol.

Posted by: bassassin | May 8, 2009 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Hopefully, the next fire in California burns Gran San Fran Nan's wineries.

Does anyone know what brand of wine the Sneaker of the House gets rich off of? A national boycott sounds like a good idea.

Posted by: Heatherlicious | May 8, 2009 12:10 PM | Report abuse

The CIA will always get the better of any internal political battle.

Look what they did with Maobama's plane last week. . .

Posted by: bankroller | May 8, 2009 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Republicans and anti-dems are so friggin ZEN - I am so envious of your ability to live in the moment and completely ignore how Pelosi got to this point. I agree that she should resign, that she should holld herself accountable -- but for some reason I don't think you ZEN mo'fo's will be able to see how this is directly tied to your King Bush and Sharpshooter Cheney. If Pelosi admits her guilt, then please.... shouldn't they all? Your ability to focus anger on one individual is uncanny. Are we not all part of a nation that tortured? Have we not held our politicians accountable? Why did we not take to the streets when we heard the news originally? Oh - wait, that's right, I was arrested for demonstrating Peace in SF..... what did you do to help stop war and torture?

Posted by: slovespa | May 8, 2009 12:16 PM | Report abuse

You see, Nancy? This is what happens when you parse words and get into the definition of what "is" is.

You raised absolutely no objection to the legality of water-boarding, but claim to be innocent because nobody told you it was actually happening? BS!

Watching you dance around this topic was the highlight of my day. I'll bet you that someone (you) must be really steamed at Obama releasing those memos.

Posted by: gav8 | May 8, 2009 12:22 PM | Report abuse

The democrats need to stop blaming the Bush administration and need to admitt they are the ones that screwed evertything up. They blocked President Bush at every opportunity they could. They are at fault for the condition of our country is in, not Bush! I really think that they want to take our country down from within!

Posted by: carlislen | May 8, 2009 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Public ignorance due to a lack of education has created a populace that voted for the present administration.
We must get to those of voting age under 40 and give them the understanding of our History and the values placed upon us by our forefathers. The youth of voting age have no conception of what a Republic Democracy consists.
The have elected a President with charisma but no substance and a Markxist thinker...God, help us

Posted by: railroad1 | May 8, 2009 12:24 PM | Report abuse

Could it be that she simply does not recall the briefing? It happened to Ollie North, the only difference being that he lied under oath.

Posted by: honnus | May 8, 2009 12:25 PM | Report abuse

GOD BLESS THE WASHINTON POST

AND GOD BLESS GEORGE BUSH FOR WATERBOARDING TO KEEP US SAFE.

I love HOW PELOSI says NOTHING ABOUT WOMENS HEADS BEING CHOPPED OFF, but DONT DUNK SOMEONE IN THE WATER...

THIS IS THE TIME TO HAVE YOUR VOICE HEARD HERE:

http://www.thankyoupresidentgeorgewbush.com/

http://www.thankyoupresidentgeorgewbush.com/

Posted by: typgwb | May 8, 2009 12:28 PM | Report abuse

GOD BLESS THE WASHINTON POST

AND GOD BLESS GEORGE BUSH FOR WATERBOARDING TO KEEP US SAFE.

I love HOW PELOSI says NOTHING ABOUT WOMENS HEADS BEING CHOPPED OFF, but DONT DUNK SOMEONE IN THE WATER...

THIS IS THE TIME TO HAVE YOUR VOICE HEARD HERE:

http://www.thankyoupresidentgeorgewbush.com/

http://www.thankyoupresidentgeorgewbush.com/

Posted by: typgwb | May 8, 2009 12:29 PM | Report abuse

Holy "sad-face", Batman, look at that picture of someone who's usually grinning like a possum eating cow dung. She fur sure ain't smilin' now! Dare we hope that she gets exactly what's coming to her? That's deplorable behavior from someone who's third in line for the presidency. Obama!; Biden!; Pelosi! It's enough to move one to tears. In all of what's wrong with this administration, she seems to be the most reprehensible.

Ta-Ta

Posted by: TexasSlim | May 8, 2009 12:32 PM | Report abuse

"I dont understand why conservatives dont charter a boat to Somalia and start a new country......Since you conservatives hate America so much, do us all a favor and leave."

Posted by: BFDeal | May 8, 2009 8:47 AM

What a silly statement. We don't hate this great Country. We hate the cowards who call themselves Americans but hate this Country. You might fit the bill. We love the foundation of this Country and its Constitution. We hate those that attempt to shred our Constitution. I hope that clarifies things for you.

Posted by: stopthemadness1 | May 8, 2009 12:34 PM | Report abuse

Can't wait to see how Keith Obamamann will spin this one. Spin Keith spin! The hypocrisy of the demagogic party is showing through. Justice floats!

Posted by: SGerard1 | May 8, 2009 12:34 PM | Report abuse

hmmmm..... this is about the torture engaged in by the USA, as directed by GW. Now, just exactly who's head did WE chop off? Are you wearing a powdered wig and having one of your slaves pick cotton??

Posted by: honnus | May 8, 2009 12:34 PM | Report abuse

Well, well! So the Madam Speaker knew more than she conveyed to us!!! How could that be?? The change Obama talked about when he was in the campaign mode will ONLY COME WHEN THERE ARE TERM LIMITS! Folks, do you really want to trust your future to the likes of Nancy Pelosi and John Murtha?? If so, learn how to enjoy crow, for will will consistently be on the menu --- in growing frequency!

Posted by: wheeljc | May 8, 2009 12:34 PM | Report abuse

@ honnus:

If you had been briefed four or five yrs. ago regarding partial birth abortion, which I assume you abhor, would you forget it? She detests waterboarding, so it follows that she would not forget having had it described and probably demonstrated for her by photographs. Her selective lapses of memory she surely learned from Hillary Clinton, the master of that subterfuge.

Ta-Ta

Posted by: TexasSlim | May 8, 2009 12:39 PM | Report abuse

AFTER THE NEXT TERRORIST ATTACK ON U.S. SOIL...

A lot of people (even Democrats) will ask why this happened. What we all tend to forget is that a terrorist attack is ALSO a financial attack (look at the Markets after 9/11).

We are struggling to get jobs. Many of the people reading this have just lost their jobs, or are at risk of it. Yes, even Democrats.

George W. Bush understood the threat of Islam, for all of his mistakes. This president does not.

The survival of humans on earth depends almost entirely on women having the same rights and responsibilities as males.

Islam represents the most dangerous threat to our survival, as defined by that imperative.

You cannot compromise with Islam. We must not build any more Mosques in Western Countries and stop future Islamic integration or immigration.

Already the Islamic population bomb is exploding, everywhere.

If we lose to Islam, we lose everything...

sanjosemike

Posted by: rosey11 | May 8, 2009 12:46 PM | Report abuse

A lying politician! What will we do?! Probably nothing as usual.

Posted by: animalfarmusa1 | May 8, 2009 12:46 PM | Report abuse

slovespa,
That is the point!! The president (GWB) did know! And Pelosi knew! And Obama Knew! They all knew. If you want to go to the source then go to the members of congress that approved the EIT's. Obama signed off on the approval as well!

Posted by: bmw120556 | May 8, 2009 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Pelosi is, was, and always will be a LIAR!!!!!-------- but CNN would rather report on farrah Fawcett....

Fire the LIAR!

Posted by: brigitteyee | May 8, 2009 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Nancy,

Please destroy America like you have destroyed California..there ain't an american or a stright person in the state..what a crock of crap.

You could waterbaord Nancy but she wouldn't remember it

Posted by: ireaditinthepress | May 8, 2009 12:48 PM | Report abuse

It may take some waterboarding to get a true and concise answers from our representatives.

Posted by: engservprov | May 8, 2009 12:48 PM | Report abuse

I don't know why everyone seems so surprised. We've known all along that Pelosi is devoid of a moral compass.

Posted by: MarkCarlton | May 8, 2009 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Pelosi has lied about everything else, so why not this. I think it's hilarious that her "transparency" in government is what got the DB nailed. Please see more at http://www.radicalwhig.org or at http://radicalwhigparty.blogspot.com and join in to the fun

Posted by: RadicalWhig | May 8, 2009 12:51 PM | Report abuse

@ TexasSlim

Yes you are correct, no room in me for partial birth abortion, we do share that. Silly as it is for you to focus on Pelosi and ignore the Ollie North comparison, I understand your reluctance to go there....it is simply too fair and balanced for you, and frankly, indefensible. No offense taken, you and the rest of the regressive conformists have always turned a blind eye to facts that do not support your antequated agenda. I'd imagine you are firmly behind the movement to secede from the union....truly hope that works out for you, and if and when it does, well, Ta Ta.

Posted by: honnus | May 8, 2009 12:52 PM | Report abuse

I think everyone involved in the waterboarding should take the same position that Pelosi took and just say they don't remember- EVERYONE. Even the guy that poured the water over Zubaydah's head should follow Pelosi's lead and say he doesn't remember doing it to so we can "move on" from this BS debate.
Is Nancy Pelosi the only one who can claim gross stupidity?

Posted by: EZECHILL | May 8, 2009 12:55 PM | Report abuse

I'm totally against waterboarding Ms Pelosi as so many here have suggested be done to her. Instead, I'd recommend that Sen Kennedy take her out for a ride over a bridge. Let her find out what real waterboarding is all about.

Posted by: kevintheelder | May 8, 2009 12:59 PM | Report abuse

waterboarding my butt...they should have started with de fingernailing, then if they didn't talk, gouge one eye out at a time..and if that didn't work destroy the entire body except for the the medulla oblongata. And if Geneva has a problem with this do a Curtis E LeMay and bomb them back to the stone age.

Waterboading is torture, yah, right.

Oh by the way Arriverdeci, Pelosi..

Posted by: cicx | May 8, 2009 1:03 PM | Report abuse

"the past is changeable" - 1984

I just finished reading the book for the first time and was shocked at how much of big brother has already been incorporated in the radical left philosophies. Time for some counter action to the radical views - I think a good dose of freedom and liberty will do...

Posted by: spinordie | May 8, 2009 1:11 PM | Report abuse

I am back again to dispute the complaints and insults of the right wing. I reviewed the declassified documents, and they don't prove that Pelosi was lying. The fact is, it doesn't say that she heard that KSM or the other detainees were, in fact, waterboarded.

Posted by: tony581 | May 8, 2009 1:13 PM | Report abuse

WOW - are the Republican interns in DC for the summer already? It looks like a room full of juveniles from Liberty University received their first assignment this morning - post rightwing diatribes on the Pelosi story. So - which of you posted the most comments before lunch?? Did you get a free bag of chips? Please, keep the vitrile up - your bosses will be pleased and you might even get that job you really want on the Hill next summer! Of course, you can expect a lot of competition, because, well, there just aren't very many Republicans left on the Hill. Keep up the good work and good luck!

Posted by: manatt | May 8, 2009 1:16 PM | Report abuse

It is time to end the tyranny of stupidity. Pelosi should resign. If she does the stupid thing (natch) then she should be subjected to some serious old school punishment for her usurpation of unconstitutional power. Perhaps drag her from her office and tar & feather her on the Capital steps. Not terribly PC but I think it would make a good example to the other 534 nitwits there.

Posted by: whosiwhatzit | May 8, 2009 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Does this really surprise people?? Are they going to tell main stream media that she lied? Is it really out or will it be hidden so only people with political knowledge will know? I'm so sick of them getting away with all of their corrupt ways. They all are LIARS !! look at Dodd he flat out lied on tv but it all seems to be forgotten already.We the people need to NOT FORGET !! they think we are stupid cause they have the power. We need to take their power away asap or they will destroy the United States.Main stream Media needs to wake up cause they are one of us they just don't know it yet.The media is just as much to blame for trying to keep the truth covered up .

Posted by: cristal_eq | May 8, 2009 1:19 PM | Report abuse

The reason I previously brought up the lies and distortions leading to the Iraq war (which had bipartisan support because of those lies) has to do with the waterboarding. In general, torture is effective at getting false confessions or telling the interrogator information that is already known. My opinion is that KSM was waterboarded to get false information about the links between al qaeda and Saddam Hussein, to help justify war in Iraq.

Posted by: tony581 | May 8, 2009 1:20 PM | Report abuse

“...It happened to Ollie North, the only difference being that he lied under oath....”

And what did Olie gain personally from that lie? Other than to protect this country....from the fools in congress.

On the other hand – what did “I did not have sex with that woman” have to gain in his lie to you – to me - and to congress on national TV – under oath?

Other than a tirade from....that other woman.

Posted by: rto1 | May 8, 2009 1:22 PM | Report abuse

kevintheelder --awesome post. I LMAO. I wish I had thought of that. Can I have your permission to put that quote in my editorial on this subject on my website? Please see http://www.radicalwhig/org

Posted by: RadicalWhig | May 8, 2009 1:23 PM | Report abuse

A hypocritical Democratic politician caught lying? Another transformational event in the Age of The Obmama

Posted by: diana11777 | May 8, 2009 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Sen. Pelosi is 3rd in line for the Presidency! I still don't understand why people think Senators Pelosi, Reed, and Leahy were noble in their witch hunts of the Bush administration. Bush did his job, by keeping us safe while they were out bashing Bush and fighting to support abortion. They are disingenuous and the dumb Americans who vote for these types of politicians are getting the slap in the face that they deserve. President Obama said what he had to say to get elected, and now he's feeling Bush's pain. I feel sorry for us sane Americans who have to suffer trough the next 3+ years of this type dishonesty from the Dems.

Posted by: ProudSSgt | May 8, 2009 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Nancy Pelosi is a senior ctizen who has obviously suffered from shock and memory loss associated with way too much cosmetic surgery. Perhaps if she had a throat lift (she need sone because of the apparent compopsition of her facial skin and throat) she may be more inclined to keep her mouth shut.

With Nancy and Joe Biden at large the PM stand-up comedians will have plenty of material one the American public tires of Obama overexposure.

Perhaps with some coaching from Obama Pelosi and Biden could utilise teleprompters as does Obama in his daily 11:30 a. m. message reading that he utilises to intoxicate an extremely ill informed American public that has failed to recognise Obama's Marxist philosophy.

Lest you all forget, that Marxist philosophy is threatening to undermine one of the basic precepts of Anglo-American law, the prohibition on a government's impairment of the obligations of contracts.

Why should white collar retirees of the big auto companies be treated so unfairly compared to the UAW. Why should university and public public pension funds investments in senior debt of the auto makers have to lose priority because a Marxist President and his stooges focus attention on waterboarding and the rights pof foreign beligerents rather than the rights of senior creditors.

Falsely calling senior secured creditors "speculators," is the real story that need to be exposed. American elected a President in January. It did not crown a absolute monarch.

Posted by: KEVIN25 | May 8, 2009 1:32 PM | Report abuse

It's an old joke but yet so very true...

How can you tell if a politician is lying?
Their lips are moving.

This applies now more than ever, or let's see if Nazi Pelosi is lying it must be G.W.'s fault

Posted by: Hawkije | May 8, 2009 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Radical Whig: I'm honored to know my comment was appreciated. Feel free to use it on your blog (or any place else). You may even take credit, I'm not the type who cares. Far better the words get out, no? BTW, I'll check in on your site.

Posted by: kevintheelder | May 8, 2009 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Nancy, Nancy, Nancy, tell me you did not utter an untruth!!!

Posted by: pamlico | May 8, 2009 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Remember Clinton and 'it depends on what the meaning of is is." Well, to me the same thing applies here... depends on what Nancy thinks the word brief means... she could think it means mens briefs, a brief lapse of judgement or something like that. And the same principle applies here ... when you tell the truth you can't be caught in a lie. She's lying and she got caught.

Posted by: WendyinOK | May 8, 2009 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Frankly, other than being a lying, deceiving Democrat, I have no problems with Pelosi on this one. If a little water up the nose saves thousands of Americans lives I'm absolutely all for it. These sub-humans who would behead each and every one of us cannot be dealt with in the usual manner. I refuse to play sheep to their wolves.

Posted by: Shepino | May 8, 2009 1:45 PM | Report abuse

When is this disgusting WITCH going to be put under oath? She's a freaking liar and everyone knows she has lied from Day One! She should be INVESTIGATED, along with Dodd, Murtha, Rangel, Feinstein, Mollahan and the rest of the corrupt PIGS in the U S Congress. VOTE THIS TRASH OUT IN 2010 AND 2012!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: priley8104 | May 8, 2009 1:45 PM | Report abuse

tony wrote: “....My opinion is that KSM was waterboarded to get false information about the links between al qaeda and Saddam Hussein, to help justify war in Iraq....”

“Its most effective use, say current and former CIA officials, was in breaking Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, known as KSM, who subsequently confessed to a number of ongoing plots against the United States.”

“A senior CIA official said KSM later admitted it was only because of the waterboarding that he talked. KSM lasted the longest under waterboarding, about a minute and a half, but once he broke, it never had to be used again," said a former CIA official.”

“Ultimately, KSM took responsibility for the 9/ll attacks and virtually all other al Qaeda terror strikes, including the beheading of Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl.”

“KSM, as intelligence agencies call him, directed the September 11 attacks, which killed 2,978 people and injured at least 7,356. “I am the head of the al-Qaeda military committee,” he told Al Jazeera in April 2002. “And yes, we did it.” KSM wired money to his nephew, Ramzi Yousef, who masterminded the February 1993 World Trade Center blast that killed six and wounded 1,040. KSM and Yousef planned Operation Bojinka, a foiled 1995 scheme to explode 12 American jetliners above the Pacific. While some doubt his claim, KSM reportedly said, “I decapitated with my blessed right hand the head of the American Jew Daniel Pearl in the City of Karachi, Pakistan.”

“U.S. and Pakistani authorities captured KSM on March 1, 2003 in Rawalpindi, Pakistan.”

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And you liberals would even think about defending this trash!!

Posted by: rto1 | May 8, 2009 1:46 PM | Report abuse

They are ALL blagojevich!

Posted by: natb1 | May 8, 2009 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone remember history? Do you remember the Brits being "outraged" at the German's use of a new, stealthy, but "un-gentlemanly" war tactic called the "submarine?" The Brits were outraged that someone could be so cowardly as to sneak up on their opponent in such a fashion.......and for several years, the Brits kept getting blown out of the water. Well, we find ourselves in similar circumstances. The U.S. considers itself to be "above" and more humane" than that....and we're going to get the s*** kicked out of us very soon if we keep thinking that way! The big problem is, our enemy is laughing at all of the hand-wringing we go though (publicly, I might add) on matters like this. For the most part, they fight us using the tactic of "total war" (remember mass-bombings in WWII) while we put our soldiers in jail for collateral damage. Does anyone see the irony in this? Can you also see the few number of people it will take to defeat a large country like ours that feels it's "above" those tactics? Let me sum things up: If Obama, Pelosi, and all the other "moral highroaders" had family members they knew were in danger, and if those same family members could be prevented from being harmed by waterboarding a few known terrorists.......hell, they'd pour the water themselves! It seems like many have forgotten there ever was a 9/11, so just remember: WHEN the U.S. gets his again, and with this bunch in charge, we certainly will, remember all of this hand-wringing we're currently watching. The fact is, the tactics they use work. Why else would we be using them? Just to be "mean?"

Posted by: crd1101 | May 8, 2009 1:54 PM | Report abuse

What is amazing, is that even now there are people who will ignore the truth and support her for God only know what nefarious reason.

The shame is this whole fascad she (and basically the entire Democrat party to include Barak HUSSEIN Obama) put up was to promote the evil desire to grasp power at the expense of others safety (Every American, Soldier, Intelligence Agents, Vacationers, etc)...Folks this act by the Democrats to demonize that which his harmless is nothing short of an act of HIGH TREASON.

Posted by: bsmdbt | May 8, 2009 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Liar, liar pants on fire! People of California if you are comfortable with a liar in the congress so be it. Even in liberal Massachusetts we do not condone liars.

Posted by: yportbill | May 8, 2009 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Lying witch. How dumb do these people think we are.

Posted by: wogman75 | May 8, 2009 1:58 PM | Report abuse

What a disgrace this speaker of the house is. Caught blatantly lying to the American people. If Pelosi were a Republican, she would be relentlessly hounded out of office for this. But since she is a left-winger, it will blow over. If it weren't for Fox News and Talk Radio, the mainstream media wouldn't have even reported this story.

Posted by: JRockford | May 8, 2009 2:07 PM | Report abuse

The memos clearly DO NOT state that Nancy Pelosi and Porter Goss were told of a then ongoing use of waterboarding OR an ongoing use of any of the other EIT's mentioned later in their one 2002 briefing.

Of the Dems who WERE later told of an ongoing use of EIT's, according to the memos (written by the previous administration's insider lackies, btw), they could not reveal what they were told at the briefings...but here is what they could do and what they did:

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-interrogate8-2009may08,0,4925805.story
"Sen. Rockefeller was briefed but was not presented with the full picture, nor was he told critical information that would have cast significant doubt on the program's legality and effectiveness," said Jamie Smith, a Rockefeller spokeswoman. "With more information coming to light in 2004, Sen. Rockefeller became increasingly concerned about the program, and in early 2005 he launched a full-scale effort to investigate. The Senate Intelligence Committee's review is ongoing, and he believes it is critically important that there be a full accounting of the Bush administration's interrogation policies."
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The sole reason any of us know about this today is because Dems who were briefed about the specifics were so outraged they launched an investigation to HELP us to know about it and respond accordingly.

Why do you think the Dems hated the Bush administration so much? LOL! Did you really believe they were striken by some unjustifiable "Bush Derangement Syndrome"?

Posted by: Gawd | May 8, 2009 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Drip, drip: I thought that was Queen Pelosi's Botox dripping from her face - kinda looks like it in the picture. Where's her big phony smile now? Is anyone surprised? We all know she's a phony and a liar. Why do those in San Franfreako keep voting for her? They could end the problem. She's been nailed and still denies it. She'll probably just get on her 747 and fly home now. Kinda like a witch jumping on her broom!

Posted by: ExoticTraveler | May 8, 2009 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Pelosi, the Wicked Witch of the West! Some day soon the house will fall on her. She needs to leave. Unfortunately that would bring her back to Calif. and personally, we don't need her kind here either, we have enough liars. Can't we send her somewhere like...Oh I don't know... Gitmo? I think she would make a very good water board Nazi.

Posted by: sherillpoland | May 8, 2009 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Ollie North lied about funding and arming terrorists, and the likelihood is that the money has been used to build bombs to be aimed at the USA, and the arms this very day are killing our kids in our noble and honorable fight to steal oil from a nation we destroyed because it was easier than taking on the real fights. Billy boy lied about sex...SEX, to a reporter! I'm so sorry that hurt you so personally, so deeply. What do you tell your poor wife when you come home late at night from your weekly NAMBLA meetings, that you were out blowing up abortion clinics?

Posted by: honnus | May 8, 2009 2:32 PM | Report abuse

"In a 10-page memo outlining an almost seven-year history of classified briefings....."

So we're supposed to believe this memo, written 7-years AFTER the "briefing", proves anything? Who and/or what were the sources for this "outline" memo?

Posted by: sberge | May 8, 2009 2:33 PM | Report abuse

The memos clearly show that Nancy Pelosi and Porter Goss were NOT told of an ongoing use of waterboarding or the other EITs in their one 2002 briefing.

The Dems that the memos indicate WERE told of an ongoing use of the EITs could not reveal what they were told at the briefings. But here is what they could do and what they did:

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-interrogate8-2009may08,0,4925805.story
"Sen. Rockefeller was briefed but was not presented with the full picture, nor was he told critical information that would have cast significant doubt on the program's legality and effectiveness," said Jamie Smith, a Rockefeller spokeswoman. "With more information coming to light in 2004, Sen. Rockefeller became increasingly concerned about the program, and in early 2005 he launched a full-scale effort to investigate. The Senate Intelligence Committee's review is ongoing, and he believes it is critically important that there be a full accounting of the Bush administration's interrogation policies."
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The only reason any of us know about Bush's torture culture is because Congressional Dems who were briefed about it launched an investigation so the American people would be informed and could respond accordingly.

Now we have a better understanding of why Congressional Dems hated Bush so much. It turns out it wasn't a matter of an unjustified "Bush Derangement Syndrome" after all.

Posted by: Gawd | May 8, 2009 2:34 PM | Report abuse

This is a joke. Why didn't this article mention that the CIA won't vouch for the accuracy of that list.

From emptywheel:
CIA: "Here's a list, but we won't vouch for its accuracy."
ABC: "We've proven that Nancy was wrong!!"

http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/05/07/cia-lying-to-abc-about-torture-again-abc-reporting-it-uncritically-again/

I guess you got to do whatever you can to stir up the wingnuts.

Posted by: dickc | May 8, 2009 2:35 PM | Report abuse

So what we all knew all along comes clear that the entire "illegality" of waterboarding was an invention of the Democrat party to get Bush and nothing more. I was TRAINED in "escape and evasion" in the military and was waterboarded several times and while unpleasant it was and is harmless! Pelosi is exposed as the LIAR she always has been and continues to be and Obama is her enabler no less! THC

Posted by: touchyu2 | May 8, 2009 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Shame on you Ms Pelosi, shame on it.
As a fellow Californian, you truly embarrass me.

Posted by: KidfromCali | May 8, 2009 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Shame on you Ms Pelosi, shame on you.
As a fellow Californian, you truly embarrass me.

Posted by: KidfromCali | May 8, 2009 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Lyin Commie Bastids !! Liberals all !!

Posted by: rottentothecore | May 8, 2009 2:53 PM | Report abuse

The whole point really being missed is that ALL of them are saying that they would not DO ALL that they could to protect America. They seem to look at America as its intrastructure, it is We the People. They take an oath to uphold and protect the Constitution of the United States. Obama said at his last press conference that Torture is wrong and America does not torture, and that in his judgement "he could have gotten the einformation from the terrorists without torture. On 9/12 we the people (BUSH) did not have the time to wine and dine the very people wanting to destroy us and our country.He (Obama) said it, "Churchhill let the bombs go off around him, yet he did not torture". Well, first he was wrong, in his history, must not have been one of his strong points at Harvard. Churchhill or England did torture, and it would not surprize me to find out that England knew about the torture this time, if they weren't directly involved already!
One more thing, back at the begining of 2008 Iraqi under the cover of night removed 500 metric tons of low-grade uranium, it was reported in theCanadan paper, because that were it ended up. Seems to me that Hussian would be looking for other pretty bad weapons.
All of them are liars right into the White House. We have a Community Oranganizers as a Pres. I can't believe it, I worked Construction for years and all the Organizers wanted was kick-backs for the work they sent our way. One in the Cleveland area wanted 500.00 per job. Never met one of them whom wasn't on the take somehow. ACORN IS THE ANSWER TO THIS WHOLE DEM MESS> They all voted to give ACORN grant money, ACORN spends that grant money to get DEMS elected, Dems give them more money after they are reelected. Its fraud and corrupt. They should all be in prison for stealing from the people. Our Social Security will be gone, but I bet their pension plans and health ins. is safe.

Posted by: d55may | May 8, 2009 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Remember people when the CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC were outraged by the water boarding and covered it from morning to night? Well expect this whole water boarding issue to just fade away, now that the Dems have been caught lying about what they knew and never once objected.

The MSM would rather spend their time digging up dirt on Miss California than investigate the blatant lies of the Speaker of the House.

Posted by: PupsMcCann | May 8, 2009 3:08 PM | Report abuse

OK CHATTERING CLASS, A SOLUTION:

Throw the Bums Out! November 4, 2010 435 members of Congress (including Ms. Pelosi) and 1/3 of the Senate are up for re-election. Any good candidates out there? RUN BABY RUN! The Soft Revolution begins, Forrest.

Posted by: Forrest-Wilson | May 8, 2009 3:11 PM | Report abuse

“....Billy boy lied about sex...SEX, to a reporter! I'm so sorry that hurt you so personally, so deeply...”

“In his deposition for the Jones lawsuit, Clinton denied having "sexual relations" with Lewinsky. Based on the evidence provided by Tripp, a blue dress with Clinton's semen, Starr concluded that this sworn testimony was false and perjurious.”

“During the deposition, Clinton was asked "Have you ever had sexual relations with Monica Lewinsky, as that term is defined in Deposition Exhibit 1, as modified by the Court?" The judge ordered that Clinton be given an opportunity to review the agreed definition. Afterwards, based on the definition created by the Independent Counsel's Office, Clinton answered "I have never had sexual relations with Monica Lewinsky." Clinton later stated that he believed the agreed-upon definition of sexual relations excluded his receiving oral sex.”

"President Clinton was held in contempt of court by judge Susan D. Webber Wright. His license to practice law was suspended in Arkansas and later by the United States Supreme Court. He was also fined $90,000 for giving false testimony, which was paid by a fund raised for his legal expenses.”

Clinton lied – just like Pelosi lied - just like all democrats lie....it’s a party affliction...a perpetual swine flu infliction...

Posted by: rto1 | May 8, 2009 3:14 PM | Report abuse

WE SHOULD HAVE TERM LIMITS ON ALL OF THEM.SOME OF THEM ARE SENILE AND DONT EVEN NO WHAT DAY IT IS.

Posted by: rokwood2 | May 8, 2009 3:21 PM | Report abuse

There is an issue of trust in this argument of Pelosi knew or did not know. In either case what is consider the worst outcome. Not paying attention during the CIA brief, Not remembering what was said at the briefing, or as the Democratic Majority head of the House and Security not knowing what is going on in your field of responsibility. The point of the matter is Ms. Pelosi is the worst Speaker of the House and when you consider the current administration selection of Tax cheats, earmark applicators and a Vice President that is out of step with the world as we know it, it clearly defines her as the Worst Speaker of the House and clearly the poster child for term limits. I am afraid to say that Ms. Pelosi has clearly failed as a leader and is not ready for prime time. As with the Carter and Johnson Administration this is a one term President and a three term cleanup for America.

Posted by: Sgarmin1 | May 8, 2009 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Are you saying that Madam Speaker lied??? I don't believe it. When has a a member of Congress ever lied to us?

Posted by: greenman4 | May 8, 2009 3:30 PM | Report abuse

ah ha-- maybe Pelosi has lost her brain-- or maybe she never had one???

Posted by: tigger46 | May 8, 2009 3:30 PM | Report abuse

and AGAIN, this hurt nobody, (family included, as this wasn't his first rodeo, we can all be pretty sure of that)....see what I'm doing here, I'm agreeing with, not arguing against facts. Give it a try sometime. Clinton lied, yet too early to tell if Pelosi lied, but we'll say she did, if only for the purpose of lending an ounce of credibility to anything you try to defend. Please name one politician that you can with certainty say, "this person hasn't lied". You yourself, in your previous post, said Ollie lied. GW's entire life is rooted in lies!! Cheney shot his buddy in the head because he thought his buddy's head was a bird! He lied! If we choose to believe whatever dribble you come forth with next, it will surely be our fault, for, as a great leader once said, "fool me once, sh duh...shame on.... shame on...."
Go ahead and fill in the blanks, as you powdered wiggers do, with whatever suits your fancy. After all, we all await your quick response....(ok, now THAT is a HUGE lie!)

Posted by: honnus | May 8, 2009 3:38 PM | Report abuse

She's either stupid or she is a liar. I tend to think she is both.

Posted by: senglish887 | May 8, 2009 3:38 PM | Report abuse

THAT 10 POUNDS OF WEIGHT SHE WAS CRYING ABOUT, SHOULD OF FELL ON HER HEAD WHEN BUSH LEFT.

Posted by: rokwood2 | May 8, 2009 3:43 PM | Report abuse

That's one Wicked looking "Turrets Syndrome Lady" Have you ev er heard Her mummble. Like Itchy from Dick Tracy.

Posted by: I_USED_TO_BE_A_LIB | May 8, 2009 3:48 PM | Report abuse

You're going down B*TCH!

Posted by: nucleodrop | May 8, 2009 4:02 PM | Report abuse

“....and AGAIN, this hurt nobody...”

This is another false statement. It hurt us all. Clinton’s lack of leadership – his preoccupation with who was under his deck and not what was on it....contributed greatly to where we as a country are today - and the most responsible person for what we face today.

With Mogadishu in ’94 – and the now famed Black Hawk down incident – our marines were forced to cut and run....due to no foresight or effective response in place, no support for the military and none for our troops. Clintons first order in office....was to retreat.

Anytime in the past – up to that point – that “incident” alone - would have been cause for a declaration for war.

The Khobar Towers attack of ‘96 in Saudi Arabia was against our military barracks in that country – which btw – were the remnants of our first involvement in region during the first gulf war. This was the second attack against our military – in less than two years – but with the same mute response.....from this derelict commander-in-chief....

The Kenya embassy and Tanzania embassy bombings in ’98 are the third and fourth attacks against the United States in five years. Embassies in any country – are considered the land and property of that country. And yet - zero response...

About now - Clinton did get a bit PO’d – so he sent a couple of cruise missiles into some empty tents in the middle of the desert. Bravo I said – as I was beginning to dig my head out of my chest at this point.

And the 2000 USS Cole incident was the third attack directly against “our military” in six years. It was another military and military encounter with Qaeda. It was the Islamic army against our Navy. And this group came so close to sinking a US destroyer - with a skip.

And just because you don’t have a nation-state as your adversary doesn’t mean you should not consider a declaration of war. Yet – Clinton never did!!

There was no contemplation of any military action after the millennium plots – and there should have been. Clinton let this problem fester and grow – until we all woke - on September 11, 2001.

And as the msm tries to rewrites history and blur facts into oblivion - what historical truth will never be able to bury deep enough - is that on 9/11 – Bill Clinton was driving the planes.

And after this utter failure of leadership for this nation – we today have Clinton II in place - with Hillary running our foreign policy at State – and I must ask....did everyone forget?

Posted by: rto1 | May 8, 2009 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Come back when you are ready to confess to the "Odious Democrat War Crimes" of WWII and Vietnam that TORTURED TO DEATH hundreds of thousands of innocent women and children, babies. These Democrat Crimes Against Humanity that have never been "expunged".

Come back when you are ready to formally have the Democrat party make an apology to the world and further have it entered into the congressional record that it was Democrat administrations who nuked and fire bombed cities full of defenseless women and children around the world and rounded up Asians by the tens of thousands and put them into concentration camps - another form of TORTURE and Crimes Against Humanity only equaled by the NAZIS!

Until then, cry us a river - crybabycrat hypocrites.

Posted by: C0rrupt_0_Crats | May 8, 2009 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Get ready for the San Francisco Express coming your way, like a freight train!

You wanted it, well you got it. Voting Obama into office was less about Obama than it was about Bush.

Now that we have Obama, you have opened the doors to the liberalization of America San Francisco Style. Yes folks, east of Highway 101 and 19th Avenue you people have no clue about what's next. Obama couldn't have found himself in the White House master bedroom without Pelosi and Reid. Obama doesn't breath without first checking in with the power that put him there.

You want higher taxes, well, you got em. You want enormously bigger government, well you got that too. You want the socialization of America, unfettered immigration, dictates on what color you car has to be, what type of television you can watch, what doctor you can see, what school you can send your kid to, what periodical you can read, what radio station you can listen to, well you can have it all. San Francisco politics is coming your way, Pelosi, Gavin Newsome, Barbara Boxer, they're all yours.

Pelosi is a balled face liar. And she has the audacity to dictate to the world about global warming while she is on a 10 day middle eastern vacation in her brand new 757 paid for by all of you tax loving convenient idiots. Unless we bring back some semblance of facts, logic and sensible thinking, this country is doomed because we're going to go broke in about 22 years.

Posted by: Robert | May 8, 2009 4:25 PM | Report abuse

The fact that Democrats readily and eagerly give other Democrats a pass on full knowledge and complicity in so-called "torture" (its not) is proof positive that once again its all about the Democrat party selling out America in a lame attempt at political gain which will fail and backfire in a massive historical way.

Posted by: C0rrupt_0_Crats | May 8, 2009 4:26 PM | Report abuse

For Dems, smoke and mirrors is the oxygen that keeps them alive. The smoke just cleared a little and we're seeing what a liar Pelosi is. Hopefully the CIA will slap her around before we boot her out of office. She's an embarrassment.

Posted by: WeNeedSkills | May 8, 2009 4:29 PM | Report abuse

this is getting old rto1.
You were speaking of lying, got cornered, had no logical repsonses and were too narrow-minded to see much less acknowledge the truth, so you change topics. How very right wing of you. It is that type of behavior that lost you the presidency and multiple elected positions, that and living 20 years in the past, back to Slick Willy. I can point to several redeeming efforts and characteristics of every president we've ever had, even if I fundamentally disagree with a bulk of their positions. You are like a horse with blinders on, unable to recognize anything other than contempt for those that are not entirely aligned with your ideology. I'm done responding to you. Your positions are void of the commonplace intellect shared by a vast majority in our great nation, and your topic shifting smacks of a lying little first grader. I'm sure I can find ya later on Newsmax. God bless you.

Posted by: honnus | May 8, 2009 4:32 PM | Report abuse

@cOrrupt-o-crats.
We're not the ones crying little fella, in case you hadn't noticed. The only crimes worse than those perpetrated by the Nazis, were those of the religious freaks during the crusades. Bet you wish you coulda been there to slay the non conformers along with them, ya bible thumping hypocrite! btw, last time I looked, there has only been one president in my lifetime that has claimed to be a 'war president'(and proudly so), and how true it is, he started a war his cry baby daddy couldnt finish, he couldn't win, and claimed mission accomplished. How shocked and awed we all were! Funny thing is, I'm not nearly as worked up about any of this stuff as my words may reflect. I simply can't stand to let a little, whiny, twerp like you off the hook. Now get to bed, the rest of us need some adult time.

Posted by: honnus | May 8, 2009 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Mugsy, please don't wall off all of California -- just the Nonsense Pelosi part of it. Although, I would appreciate finding a way to rid our state representation of other northern Californian politicians, Barracuda Boxer and Diane Flintstone, as well! Unfortunately, the Bay Area flakes and the Hollywood nitwits seem to run the vote here. I'd like to get one of those huge new Airbus planes and load it up with Streisand, Baldwin, Penn, et al., and make them leave the country - like they promised eight years ago! Then, maybe California could elect some decent leaders.

Has anyone else shuddered at recalling that Nasty Pelosi, the consummate prevaricator and theologian, is third in line to the White House, right after Joe Moron (another Catholic paragon of theological thought)? We think we have it bad with the socialist community-organizing/party-hosting neophyte and his terminally un-chic and tasteless wife (she of the off-beat argyle-print cardigans). Just consider the two other alternatives, and you'll see that, any way we slice it, we're stuck with these democraps for the next 3 1/2 years. All we can do is organize our own communities and throw out all the bums, starting next year, and PRAY -- pray very earnestly!

Posted by: mairead911 | May 8, 2009 4:54 PM | Report abuse

honnus – and it was you who went back 20 years to North – I just went back nine to Clinton. You are correct though – there is absolutely nothing I care for with your party. Their belief is a cancer on this nation – their leadership will be our Trojan horse.

And while I admired Carters character – his leadership and decision making abilities - were a disaster. Clinton had nothing redeeming in value to offer - ever – and the great imposter of today – will be worse than both. And this I base on what they all did and have done in office....nothing more.

Posted by: rto1 | May 8, 2009 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Liar Liar.

Posted by: ose1 | May 8, 2009 4:59 PM | Report abuse

I was for waterboarding before I was against it.

Posted by: LibertyLover | May 8, 2009 5:07 PM | Report abuse

A few very important points are being overlooked. 1. Pelosi has the IQ of a rock. They may have explained everything in painfull detail and she still may not have understand a word. 2. Even though she was and is Speaker of the House and a Senior member of the Intelligence Committee; and they held 42 briefings for those members; no one has said that she ever showed up for a meeting. You know - it is like voting Present rather than actually taking a position or performing your job.
I think Pelosi is dumber than dirt and as such she may be telling the truth

Posted by: glfielder1 | May 8, 2009 5:07 PM | Report abuse

CA is like a box of cereal. It is full of fruits flakes and nuts; except for those they send to Washington.

Posted by: glfielder1 | May 8, 2009 5:10 PM | Report abuse

rto1 You said everything I have thought for so long, but could not put it so eloquently.

I feel that Clinton was a disgrace as a president, and thought we would hear the last of him and his frightening wife. No, now she is running foreign policy.

Can't anyone remember how corrupt they were such a short time ago? Why is everyone slobbering all over them? They both make me want to throw up!

Posted by: Sallylou2 | May 8, 2009 5:16 PM | Report abuse

God the dumbocrats and the repukens make me sick, especially liar pelosi.

Posted by: afikjames | May 8, 2009 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Heh guys ever met a happy Democrat? They get up grumpy and go to bed complaining. Lie when it serves their purpose. Pelosi Rangel Dodd Franks. They are always critical never laugh and enjoy life. They can't win on issues so they get nasty (read any of their comments only crap)and never have anything worth while or good to say about anyone of us. But if you disagree with them we are racist idiots. foolish crazy liars and worse. I don't know about you but I am getting awfully tired of them myself. They turn me off the word democrat as it is defined now as nasty. They enjoy being pure nasty rather than nice. They carry a chip on their shoulder cranky is their nature. Their prize President just keeps apologizing for us to Europe middle east and south of the border (which I find degrading ). Believe me 4 yrs. from now he will be the worst President in history. We will have to apologize for him. Democrats only have an attitude in life that benefits their thinking. My way or the highway/ Sad to be a Democrat Mr. Spector and Mr. Powell!!!

Posted by: Soozy1 | May 8, 2009 5:23 PM | Report abuse

Pretty hilarious to see the Idiot-cRATS blathering on and sobbing politically partisan crocodile tears only to find out that their own Speaker is "Head Torturer" herself!

LMAO! MUWHAHAHA. Irony doesn't get much better than that! Yeah, just watching and listening to her is REAL torture!

Posted by: C0rrupt_0_Crats | May 8, 2009 5:24 PM | Report abuse

Can't really blame Pelosi, she's been corrupted by her position. Can anyone tell me anything she has said that contains an ounce of truth since she has entered politics? TWO TERM LIMITS WITHOUT LIFETIME BENEFITS!!
That's what it will take to cleanup the cesspool we affectionatley call Washington DC

Posted by: NoMarxist | May 8, 2009 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Curiously, they're not talking about this over at Huffington Post.

Posted by: enaughton27 | May 8, 2009 5:33 PM | Report abuse

Why is Nancy Pelosi not remembering that she was shown all the goodies by CIA, is there any reason that her memory is failing or she is getting mental block and we have her as Speaker, Should Dems elect a new Speaker or there are no bright with it guy or gal. May be Jane Harman who is very bright person will carry the load instead of Pelosi.Please also change Rangel while you are at it.Or make speaker thus he will have to forego the chairmanship of the committee.

Posted by: dadbarman | May 8, 2009 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: honnus: "Funny thing is, I'm not nearly as worked up about any of this stuff as my words may reflect.... Now get to bed"


Says the wacked mole raised its head! Thanks for identifying who got stung! LMAO!


And what's all this about "getting to bed", what are you some kind of self appointed Delusional Democrat Net Nanny?

LMAO! Sweet.

Posted by: C0rrupt_0_Crats | May 8, 2009 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Sallylou2 – you’re very kind....thank you.

Posted by: rto1 | May 8, 2009 5:55 PM | Report abuse

Pelosi just forgot about the waterboarding.

She's old. So give the gal a break!

If everyone piles on and she's forced to resign, House Dems might find a new Speaker with half a brain. That would be bad for the country.

Let's just leave well enough alone.

Posted by: Opinionator | May 8, 2009 6:14 PM | Report abuse

I don't think waterboarding terrorists is necessary; however, I would have nothing against waterboarding Pelosi, Reid, Fwank, Dodd, Schumer and many more of the lunatic leftards.

Posted by: hindsight2040 | May 8, 2009 6:15 PM | Report abuse

I can't believe there's this many people who somehow find it upsetting that politicians say whatever pleases their constituency. You all act as if Ms. Pelosi's lack of truthfulness or lack of understanding is something unique, and thus worth getting upset over. I think it's clear she' s being less then honest, either she knew or she's so naive as to believe that an approved practice wasn't going to be used. Either way, there's a fundamental lack of honesty; but that's no different then the vast majority of politicians, so please save you vitriol, and work on your basic English composition skills

Posted by: damon22 | May 8, 2009 6:16 PM | Report abuse

She lied.

She has got to go!!!

Make it happen NOW.

Posted by: sagereader | May 8, 2009 6:33 PM | Report abuse

Pelosi says she was never briefed. I guess it depends on what was was.

Really, can democrats EVER look someone in the eye and actually TELL THE TRUTH?
Pelosi is a snake.

Posted by: Kateliz | May 8, 2009 6:33 PM | Report abuse

BYE, BYE NANCY . . .

Don't let the swinging door of truth and justice hit your conniving butt on the way out!!!

Posted by: sagereader | May 8, 2009 6:37 PM | Report abuse

Liar, liar, pants on fire!!!!

Posted by: wolfcookie | May 8, 2009 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Scary scary to think that the person 3rd in line to be President of the USA is such a liar. Pelosi says things only to put out an agenda. The democrats should be embarrassed and deep down I think they are. I don't see anyone standing up for her do you? Only the crazy loons left of Democrat and that is sad news.

Posted by: Soozy1 | May 8, 2009 6:53 PM | Report abuse

So, let me get this straight...we have the Speaker of the House unaware of what the intelligence community was doing on behalf of all Americans to keep us safe for the last 7-1/2 years? We're supposed to believe that she was on the house intelligence committee and had no clue that our government was using EIT's against savages bound and determined to kill every last American? In my opinion, the CIA didn't do enough and shouldn't be in the position where they have to defend their actions. They were doing what they had to do to keep me safe.

Posted by: FLirishPM | May 8, 2009 7:06 PM | Report abuse

She is a liberal Democrat when did the truth ever matter? But Bush made her do it!

Like her boss Obama is cutting spending by x bllion he tells us yesterday, but is spending xxxxxx trillion first. That is like telling your wife we are cutting out 2 lattes a year, after buying 2 vacations houses, 10 cars, 30 suits and 2 harleys, after you just were notified that you lost your job and the credit bills and mortgage are 90 days late.

But Back to Pelosi the seat she kept jumping out of during the State of the Union is getting a little hot. but then again she can fly around in her private jet with the military and cry global warming, while she is raising tazes and spending billions and cutting the military budget with her boss.

Pathlogical liars every one of them.

Posted by: DennisKL | May 8, 2009 7:21 PM | Report abuse

Posted by OWLK: Republicans are very confused. I am a life long Democrat. I think I can speak for every other Democrat when I say that if Nancy Pelosi gave the OK for torture, she should go to jail. Repugnicans don't get it. They are so loyal to their party, they want to give their "leaders" a free pass outside the law. Dems don't think their leaders are Gods, and if they break laws, SEND 'EM TO JAIL. Repugnocrats, on the other hand, seem to idolize their leaders, and, unlike Dems, if their leaders break laws, they don't seek their dismissal and incarceration. Refusicans rearrange the American Experiment such that their leaders are not constrained by legal codes and laws, because what they do they do "from the heart." Dems believe that corrupt pols, of any stripe, need to go to jail, hence the idea of releasing papers etc.

Posted by: owlk | May 7, 2009 11:00 PM | Report abuse

Hey OWLK,

You are either 1) 12 years old, or
2) Have a VERY short-term memory.

Remember Nixon? We sure "protected" him, huh? Just one example. Perhaps you can persuade your parents to set you straight on which party has a reputation for excusing, hiding, camouflaging, and using as a resume' enhancer, all forms of lying. The only word I have for your naivete' is "pathetic", and everyone knows it.

Ta-Ta

Posted by: TexasSlim | May 8, 2009 7:40 PM | Report abuse


Hate to sound unkind but the old woman has to be put out to pasture now.

2010 will be a plebescite on whom voters want to hold the third most powerful position in the USA.

She'll cost the Dems some seats in the House in the 2010 mid-terms.

Posted by: GoodOleBill | May 8, 2009 8:00 PM | Report abuse

For those CIA operatives on black assignments, once again there are those in Washington DC who care nothing for you as long as they have power. Once again you are being stabbed in the back. Just like in the 1970's. Maybe you should counter with leaving your very dangerous assignments to those slime balls who have now placed you in dangers way.

Posted by: sandiatrails | May 8, 2009 8:01 PM | Report abuse

Utterly amazing, she's STILL lying-

She says she was told the Bush Adm. was considering using "in the future" only. So that means that she was not told "they (EITs) were being used".

But even that is at odds with the CIA memo dated to 9-4-02 that says Pelosi received a "briefing on EITs (enhanced interrogation techniques), including use of EITs on Abu Zubaydah, background on authorities and a description of particular EITs that had been employed."

Apparently Obama and Pelosi forgot something: the CIA kills people.... it's in their job description. Did Pelosi think these killers were going to meekly take one for the team, when the team captain is a lying, incompetent, arrogant nebbish with no real-world experience and who told them they need to kiss his ring?

Pelosi is a Machiavellian, no-talent hack who's made a lot of enemies. Going to be hard to BS her way out of this one.

http://reaganiterepublicanresistance.blogspot.com/

Posted by: ReaganiteRepublican | May 8, 2009 8:05 PM | Report abuse

Gawd wrote:

"Sen. Rockefeller was briefed but was not presented with the full picture, nor was he told critical information that would have cast significant doubt on the program's legality and effectiveness," said Jamie Smith, a Rockefeller spokeswoman. "With more information coming to light in 2004, Sen. Rockefeller became increasingly concerned about the program, and in early 2005 he launched a full-scale effort to investigate. The Senate Intelligence Committee's review is ongoing, and he believes it is critically important that there be a full accounting of the Bush administration's interrogation policies."

Puhleeze!! There is no bigger lying wuss in the Senate than Rockefeller. Not Schumer, not Levin, not McCain, not Durbin, not even Kennedy. Rockefeller stands alone on the pinnacle of hypocrisy.

Tell me again - what nothing state keeps sending this moron back to the Senate?

Posted by: GoodOleBill | May 8, 2009 8:16 PM | Report abuse

Supposedly, Nancy Pelosi was 'forbidden' from telling other members of Congress what she was briefed about in the Intel briefings.
No matter what side of the aisle you are on, you cannot possibly believe these slick politicians are not sharing what they have learned.
Pelosi was briefed about what the CIA & others were up to, including the details of each & every method employed to obtain info. And, you can bet when it suited her personal political gain, she not only shared what she knew, she bragged about it. She may have kept it to the members of Congress, but you can bet your first born she shared it & all of it!
Basically, many decided to lie because they saw political opportunity when it came to this & gaining the financial support of the anti-war crowd.
Why can't BOTH parties & supporters get behind the idea that protecting AMERICA is the real & only issue. The h*** with this conservative/liberal crap. Its AMERICA that matters & we were faced with an enemy that would gladly kill off any & all of us to promote their extremist agenda!
Nancy knew as did every other Democrat AND every other Republican. Gosh, maybe they might come to realize, PROTECTING US IS WHAT WE ARE PAYING THEM TO DO!!!

Posted by: Rubicon1 | May 8, 2009 8:22 PM | Report abuse

Who will trust Pelosi now?? She is either incapable of comprehending and processing information provided in a briefing; telling a lie after the fact; incompetent for failure to take action when provided a briefing; or ALL OF THE ABOVE. Nancy Pelosi has handed her adversaries more rounds of ammunition to fire at her and her lemmings in 2010, than they could have mustered by themselves over the next four years!! Steny Hoyer should make an independent bid for the Speakership in 2011. Pelosi's capital is spent!

Posted by: wheeljc | May 8, 2009 8:30 PM | Report abuse

Free me from the socialist pigs on capital hill and the newly elected socialist pigs

Posted by: rsltracey | May 8, 2009 8:44 PM | Report abuse

@honnus'

So we agree on partial birth abortion. Good, that's a start.

You are correct, Ollie North did lie to Congress, he admitted doing so. Herein there is a lesson. I firmly believe N. Pelosi lied to the USA. She will never admit it. Ollie North has a sterling history in mservice to this country. That does not excuse his trangression, it perhaps mitigates it somewhat. Now, let's get to motive. Col. North lied to protect lives and to the benefit of the U.S. I do not know why Pelosi lied, but I surmise it is to keep her royal person out of the slammer. Col. North was prepared to report to the slammer if it was so declared. In any event, there were, and still are, questions regarding the Boland amendment and its application to that case.

I am not for Texas's secession from our Union. I have not lived in Texas (except for two years, 1988,1989)since 1963,. when I entered the U.S.M.C. I am, however, a native Texan. I would leave Utahy and move back there, however, if secession took place. I do not think that would ever happen. (5% chance, maybe?)

I cannot fathom why you think our agenda is "antiquated", except fot the fact that it is the same agenda as the founders of our country: Self-reliance, compassion for the needy, protection for a country built on freedom, self-determination, working together for a common goal, and a desire for people of the world to have all those blessings. It's an agenda I can believe in, thank you very much!

And by the way, moral relativism is not a successful philosophy. Right is right; wrong is wrong.
You can go through many cases of Republican wrongdoing where the party did not defend wrongdoers, rather they were censured and in some instances, removed from power. Democrats seem to "circle the wagons, and defend, attact the accusers, and in any way possible deflect the situation at hand. Tell me this is not true.

In closing, it's "Ta-Ta", with a hyphen. Let me be one Conservative you quote correctly.

Ta-Ta

Posted by: TexasSlim | May 8, 2009 8:52 PM | Report abuse

So Ms Pelosi was breifed that water boarding was allowed in interrogations, but didn't think it would be used?

In other words, if she knew it was allowed, she knew it would be used.

Thank you to the Washington Post for reporting this story and not side stepping the issue. This is important and Pelosi needs to held accountable.

Posted by: rumornlies | May 8, 2009 8:54 PM | Report abuse

Pelosi and Specter speak the same language, everyone in Congress should have a friend.

Posted by: RayOne | May 8, 2009 8:55 PM | Report abuse

I wish Oreilly, Hannity or Beck would answer this question for me by e-mail ? I don't think enhanced interrogation or torture itself should be taken off the table if the situation calls for it. It is obnvious that Pelosi lied and should be investigated. However tell the whole story. If bush authorized the C.I.A. to fly Al Qaida detainees to flown to other countries that TORTURE why don't speak about that part of the story to.

Posted by: onebrandx4u | May 8, 2009 9:12 PM | Report abuse

Bearing false witness is one of the playbook tactics of the Pelosi hard left. Stalin used it extensively after learning it from Lenin and his other communist cronies. Obviously Pelosi has deliberatly conspired to deny having knowledge of something so that she could use it to destroy the credibility of another. That in itself is felonious and punishable by imprisonment. She must be put under indictment, tried and convicted and removed from office. She is a disgrace like so many politicians in Washington.

Posted by: aroleflin | May 8, 2009 9:44 PM | Report abuse

Why did she lie when the truth was so easily verifiable? Perhaps she had convinced herself that she hadn't known? Perhaps she forgot the different perspective she had in 2002, when KSM hadn't yet been captured and it was irrational to believe that there would NOT be another attack?

Pelosi should certainly apologize and perhaps not run for reelection. How can she be trusted with difficult moral issues in policy questions? Neither liberal nor conservative should have confidence in her.

Posted by: iragui | May 8, 2009 9:51 PM | Report abuse

The terrorists be-head us and we in turn argue about the terrorists we capture are getting some water poured on their faces while they gain 20 lbs. from eating better. Which is why I don't feel safe when President Narcissist and the Demcraps are in power.

Posted by: aroleflin | May 8, 2009 9:55 PM | Report abuse

I like how the Washington Compost journalist states that these memos "Seemingly Contradict" San Fran Nancy's previous denials.Seemingly contradict? These MSM hacks just cannot bring themselves to actually state the obvious it doesn't SEEMINGLY contradict it DOES contradict you freaking hacks. Nancy LIED twits. What the F is wrong with these shills !! Nancy flat out lied along with a large handful of the Composts fellow demorats and these putzes just can't do the job and call them on it.

Posted by: fe59 | May 8, 2009 10:13 PM | Report abuse

Yet another typical demonstration of the (3) common types of lies: If a Republican tells a lie, he is marginalized, dismissed as corrupt and/or forced to resign. If a Democrat tells the same lie, he is given a pass because 'he simply didn't know he had to pay income taxes', or he 'just got caught up working too hard for the American people', or...... if the commoner tells the same lie - especially to Congress - he is charged with perjury, fined and/or sent to jail for contempt.

Posted by: meesterbig | May 8, 2009 10:17 PM | Report abuse

pee losi....... you stink....K M A

Posted by: acwolfman13 | May 8, 2009 10:20 PM | Report abuse

What a shame someone with such a big mouth hasn't a brain!!

Posted by: billysam33 | May 8, 2009 10:57 PM | Report abuse

How shocking that the one's creating law and enforcing it are immune to it's applications.

Posted by: eyesjamesq | May 8, 2009 11:31 PM | Report abuse

liar liar liar liar. hahahahahahaha Your Caught. Welcome to the real world where you cant say " I mis-spoke" Just say your a Liar liar liar hahahahahaha. Great picture also.. Put on a few years in last few weeks? hahaha you suck sooo bad. hope you spend your golden years serving fries you hypocrite. Dont forget to pay your taxes.

Nothing better than seeing one of these pigs caught in a lie. ELECT REAL PEOPLE. not lawyers and career politicians.

Posted by: aeromech99 | May 9, 2009 12:23 AM | Report abuse

Common Nazi Pukelosi, face it, your hung. Your lies and deceipt finally caught up with ya. Did you really think they wouldn't? Do yourself a favor, resign gracefully before you get the boot. But don't fret ol' girl, cheer up!!! It won't be so bad. You can move to Massachusetts, go on welfare and get a FREE CAR!!! It don't get no better than that!

Posted by: blondemoment | May 9, 2009 12:29 AM | Report abuse

It used to be "proof of the month" that dems are criminal pieces of garbage... then it was proof of the week, that the cheap scum are just thieving fascist traitors...and any moment now it will be the daily proof that the cheap scum thieving fascist traitor murder pigs are not only worse than alqaeda due to their proximity to our nation; they are INSIDE THE USA!!! hey traitor pigs- go home now, and maybe nobody will chase you there...

Posted by: starvingactor | May 9, 2009 12:32 AM | Report abuse

Politician, rope, tree.

some assembly required

Posted by: ripdaddy | May 9, 2009 12:50 AM | Report abuse

We waterboard our own military, commercial pilots, anyone who volunteers. If this is torture, where were all the protests then? BTW, Is it me, or doesn't Pelosi look like she is a hell spawn....

Posted by: NoRinos | May 9, 2009 1:17 AM | Report abuse

The Nixon Whitehouse covered up a burglary and money laundering and lied about it, President Nixon had to resign...but he was a Republican and of course the news media and the hypocrite party, aka as Democrats, are above the law. Or didn't you see how they circled the wagons around that sex offender President Clinton?
The Democrats will cover up their complicity in the Bush and Cheney policies for rendition and interrogation of the detainees, but the Democrats know that their trump card is the news media that they have in their hip pocket to help them coveer up all of their schemes. They will just point the finger at the Republicans and the stupid people in that call themselves Democrats will just swoon and say gee whiz we love Obama. So go figure, why your country is going bankrupt...they are using you like a drug mule.

Posted by: rmirod | May 9, 2009 2:33 AM | Report abuse

Everyone in CA knows Nancy is a liar and a corrupt witch...now she's America's problem. The witch has to GO. She's the worst cheat and liar in Congress...and we all know what a viper pit that place is.

Posted by: fubaglady | May 9, 2009 4:09 AM | Report abuse

As we all know, democratics keep repeating a lie and demand others to accept it. Keep telling this lie and its people like those that voted for Obama and his far left leaning henchmen/wormen that is tearing up this great country of ours. Pelosi, Dodd, Reid, Murtha, Frank etc. should all be called out and let the public demand they leave office NOW. People, its only going to get worse with people like this and a no experience president in charge.

Posted by: tkimball179 | May 9, 2009 6:14 AM | Report abuse

I found it heartening ro read this thread in the Washington Post of all places. In spite of the Obama-slobbering media's attempt to keep the growing rebellion against Pelosi- Obama fascism out of sight, this thread in the Washington Post tells me that a lot of us out there perceive the gathering storm. The time for accounting is coming.

When another disastrous terrorist attack comes, the search for accountability will be quick and easy.

Posted by: ajsrmm | May 9, 2009 6:37 AM | Report abuse

the bloom is off the rose!!

Posted by: hardtobelieve | May 9, 2009 7:23 AM | Report abuse

Nancy Leprosy (spelling intentional) has suffered for several years now with the mental disorder known as "Liberalus Extremus". It has been noted that this disorder has the symptoms of feelings exaggerated self-importance, misguided decisions, the inability to tell the truth, and the desire to allow freedom of speech if it is her speech.

Nancy, before you have to spend many of your millions defending yourself in a court of law ... do the wise thing and step down.

And, oh by the way, I hope your little Salt Marsh Harvest Mice take their $30,000,000 in Spendulous Money, call up the USAF for a G-5, and demand to be flown to Italy for an audience with the Pope. I'm sure THEY would be welcomed there.

Posted by: HowardBeale | May 9, 2009 7:33 AM | Report abuse

Nancy Pelosi, if she truly is the Roman Catholic she professes to be, should find a priest, and ask him to hear her confession. After that, she needs get the record straight with the voters in her district and resign from the House of Representatives. That is how you square yourself with God and your family. If she can't do this, she cannot be trusted to do anything.

Posted by: glenlivet | May 9, 2009 8:00 AM | Report abuse

All this drivel from the left and the right.
Pelosi protected Georgie from Congress for years so that she could have power after he left. He stood beside her on her campaign and told the world what a great gal she was.

Any thinking person saw what was going on all these past years. To what purpose? Thinking people don't choose from either party, ever.
Choosing between them is like a chemist choosing whether to have acid poured on the body, or sitting in a base solution.
Either end of the litmus test is equally deadly.
Where is the middle ground, which is what humans have to live in?
Standing by a political party no matter what evil they commit, has unfortunately become the American Way. These blogs are a perfect example.

Posted by: TramplingGrapes | May 9, 2009 8:01 AM | Report abuse

I think we need to waterboard her to get to the truth

Posted by: riki25ts | May 9, 2009 8:19 AM | Report abuse

I recall that in the 1980s there was a controversy about some very liberal members not keeping secret CIA briefings. Pelosi has been in Congress since June 1987. Could her actions be a form of shame? In the past, real liberals would have leaked this stuff. Why didn't she?

Posted by: iragui | May 9, 2009 8:19 AM | Report abuse

Obama Says he didn't bow, no one believes him because the tapes shows him bowing to the King of Saudi Arabia. The press drops it.

Pelosi Says she didn't know about it, no one believes her either because it is in the records that were kept that she was told about it.

The failure media will drop this soon also. Did this make the nightly news on CBS, MSNBC, NBC, ABC, etc? I didn't see it last night. Mainstream media has failed in their role as watchdog on the govt. I do say Hooray for the Post and Drudge for following up on the story and carrying this. (Then again, Drudge isn't mainstream, is he?)

You know, if this were Newt Gengrich, do you really think this would have stopped making the news other than here? Be honest, be real. It would have been, night after night, "How much did he know and when did he know it."
Again, Thank you Post for the follow up. All hope is not lost, but you may wind up on the outs like Fox news, lol.

Posted by: utes | May 9, 2009 8:41 AM | Report abuse

Off with her head!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: veritaseequitas | May 9, 2009 8:41 AM | Report abuse

The saddest part here is that because of the party she belongs to and the media's past love affair in bashing Bush, many of her more notable escapades have deliberately gone unreported.

In so far that the Post has done this article is nothing short of a huge miracle.

Posted by: lionheart23031 | May 9, 2009 9:15 AM | Report abuse

So far nothing in the memos contradicts what Pelosi has said. ( Looks bad). Nothing has proven her a liar yet. Read the memos and listen to what she has said. Now if more comes out that does contradict what she has said then kick her and the rest that knew about it out and put them up for war crimes.

Posted by: Sansego | May 9, 2009 9:39 AM | Report abuse

The CIA should be allowed to perform the difficult task of keeping the citizenry safe. If that means more extensive EITs, pain, and downright unmitigated torture in order to obtain the information we need....then those are the rules we should play by. Torture for the sake of torture may be wrong but when used properly it will insure a safer future for the US and free world. Let's stop handcuffing the authorities of such a delicate specialty (do you hear that Obama?!?!)!

Posted by: philliessuk | May 9, 2009 9:50 AM | Report abuse

Forty years ago when I was in college my grandfather told me "The best way to determine if a politician is lying is to watch his/her lips. If they are moving, they are lying." Nothing has changed with the possible exception that our morals and ethics appear to be in a stead decline with no end in sight. I do agree with TexasSlim that the conservatives do sometimes hold our elected officials to a higher standard. Albeit the exception rather than a steadfast rule. Since Adam and Eve, our primary motivators have been money, power and sex. Those are the same in China and Latin America.

Posted by: glfielder1 | May 9, 2009 9:57 AM | Report abuse

For the democrat folks posting: water boarding is not torture. Two, remember, no matter what your candidate does support them. It is what a socialist dictator needs you to do. Actually thinking is not encouraged by the people owned by the democrat party. No one wants their property to question them.

Posted by: Quek | May 9, 2009 9:59 AM | Report abuse

Where was Pelosi's "intellectual curiosity"?

Who is more stupid: Pelosi or those who vote for her??? Maybe Cindy Sheehan is a better choice afterall. How about bringing back Cynthia McKinney?

Posted by: Yankee_Skeptic | May 9, 2009 10:01 AM | Report abuse

I think the republican posts here are funny too. The democrat party wants a socialist government and iron fist control. No amount of violence, lying or deceit matters to a democrat as long as they get power from it. They know they are lying. The people posting here know they are lying. They know that Bush didn't lie about the intelligence going into Iraq. They know that he violated the UN sanctions and that folks in the UN were stealing money. They know that Pelosi etc knew and agreed to the interrogations. The democrat party is about gaining power by what ever means necessary. These people don't care about the constitution or privacy or your rights. They only care that they get to tell you what to do. Ever here a single democrat mention the Gingrich phone listening event? They have no care about the first amendment or your rights. If they could they would murder the people who stood against them. They are all about power. Pointing out they lied does not matter to them. They already know they lied. They just think of it as a way to power. That is all that matters to them. Why do you think they support every tin pot dictator over the US? Because the tinpot dictator gets to do things they only dream of doing. They want absolute control, including life and death over the people around them. It is what they believe in. It is the only thing they believe in.

Posted by: Quek | May 9, 2009 10:15 AM | Report abuse

The people of CA knew who they were electing just as the people of PA knew also. Whether Dem or Rep they are out for themselves and themselves only for the most part. Just because you think your Rep or Sen is good for you doesn't mean he is good for the country.

OB was elected on emotion and not experience and look what is happening. Sorry folks we are going to have to live with this for 18 more months and then we have a chance to make a sweep, Dem and Rep.

Posted by: jimw50 | May 9, 2009 10:18 AM | Report abuse

Nancy Pelosi caught in another lie. Who can believe that? And just watch, those ultra left wing residents of San Francisco will again vote for her next year. Which is worse: a lying Speaker of the house or constituents without a clue?

Posted by: tlnanluc | May 9, 2009 10:22 AM | Report abuse

Maybe they should use StemCell Research on the terrorists next time or Partial Birth Abortion--that's OK, right?

Posted by: Got_Truth | May 9, 2009 10:58 AM | Report abuse

The kind of people we elect, reflects the kind of people we are. When we see elected people acting like this we should look in the mirror, we have more far left low brows in this country, than moral up right people. We now have 5 states that think that men should marry men, and women should mary women. WE are still killing thousands of unborn children every month.
Does anyone who claims to believe in God, think that He is happy with us? We need to get back to reading the 10 comandments. That is Deut:20, find out what is expected of us.

Posted by: ottohedrick | May 9, 2009 11:28 AM | Report abuse

This is getting to be really fun. Let the political show trials begin immediately.

In addition to Bush & Cheney, inquiring minds also want Pelosi, Reid, and others of their ilk to explain under oath exactly what they knew and when the knew it.

Packard

Posted by: pgould1 | May 9, 2009 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Check out this Onion-style parody of Pelosi's book tour on her latest tome, "Know Your Cower: A Message to America’s Daughters (about Enhanced Interrogation Techniques)”:

http://optoons.blogspot.com/

Posted by: newstipster1 | May 9, 2009 11:45 AM | Report abuse

The woman is crazy. Every time she opens her mouth, she proves it. The problem is that she thinks we are crazy enough to believe everything she spews. Wait, I guess there are some who do believe her. They continue to vote for her. Wake up San Francisco!

Posted by: ritterlook | May 9, 2009 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Where's in the World is Waldo?
Where in the World is Pelosi when stories like this is breaking in DC?
Galavanting the Globe visting the troops to tell them how much she cares with a handshake and turns, whispers to an aide...Defense Cuts---there'll be more Pork in the Barrel when I get back.

Posted by: luv2fishngardnyahoocom | May 9, 2009 12:02 PM | Report abuse

This is just a big game to these people. "Prove what we knew and when we knew it!" As stated above, these people think they are above the law. It's time for we citizens to stand up and hold them all to account. Otherwise, they will continue to tear up our Constitution and our laws. Leaving us without law and just these charlatans in charge.

Brian Kilcullen ~ Enemies in War

Posted by: TacitusDominatus | May 9, 2009 12:12 PM | Report abuse

PLEASE DON'T MAKE US PAY FOR HER FACE LIFT, IT DROPS EVERYTIME SHE LIES. sHE IS LYING , SO MAKE HER PAY FOR HER OWN FACELIFT.

jb

Posted by: jimcbagwell | May 9, 2009 12:20 PM | Report abuse

Here's a thought.Why don't we try water-boarding Pelosi and just see if she can be truthful.Hmmmm(just a thought)

Posted by: umpirejohn | May 9, 2009 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Gutless!!

Posted by: MidwestUSA | May 9, 2009 12:54 PM | Report abuse


Dear Friends:

Ms. Pelosi and her fake smile should have been retired to a nursing home many years ago.

Here is an individual that would do, and say anything to accomplish her wicked Agenda.

Whenever I think what is wrong with our Democracy, the names Pelosi, Reed, Dodds and Frank jump to center stage.

May God have mercy on us!

VTR

Posted by: vtr123 | May 9, 2009 12:56 PM | Report abuse

I remember this HAG PELOSI showing contempt for the American people by stating "Can we drill your brains". You are just like the jacka$$ Barack who thinks that he is soo much smarter then the American Citizen. Hag Pelosi it is time for you to step down.

Posted by: wapoisajoke | May 9, 2009 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Let me start by saying:

I'm on board with waterboarding.

There is no crime here... simply a cover-up to save a botox laced face.

And we must have all learned by now that the cover-up is worse than the crime (and again, no crime exisits.)

Posted by: sswoverl | May 9, 2009 2:26 PM | Report abuse

With dishonest, political hacks like Nancy Pelosi in charge, it will not be so long before Republicans stage a comeback.

Posted by: battleground51 | May 9, 2009 2:26 PM | Report abuse

you are all mkissing the point. this stuff about the speaker is all intened to threaten the dems for following the law and treaties of the United States. If poeple broke the law they MUST be prosecuted. If the people who broker the law includes the speaker then she must be prosecuted. no one is supposed to be above the law. by focusing on the speaker the gop cover up team is trying to deflect their law breaking and chill the investigation.

Posted by: rascalofcowtown | May 9, 2009 2:34 PM | Report abuse

You really have to wonder about the people that continue to elect her. I mean really, what is wrong with you people? Obviously you have no shame.

Posted by: dmarshall1 | May 9, 2009 2:36 PM | Report abuse

I do not like this woman and I agree she is a liar and a promotes baby killing but please stick to the issues and leave her physical attributes out of it. She might be the wicked witch of D.C. but she still has feelings.

Posted by: MFIREBRAND1YAHOOCOM | May 9, 2009 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Crucify her! Crucify her! Give us Barrabas!!!!

Posted by: Sympathy4theDevil | May 9, 2009 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Filled with 8 years of hate for sticking with those functional morons Gore and Kerry, these congenital lyers like Pelosi and Reid are now leading us into communism under the leadership of Abu Hussein from Kenya - our Community Organizer-in-Chief! The word "Soviet" in the name of the defunct USSR (thank you RR!) means "Community Organization". Does this illuminate our situation?

Posted by: jrc_mrc | May 9, 2009 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Pelosi has a problem. She did the right thing in acquiesing to the waterboarding. However, her correct conduct will not fly in the City of Iniquity back home. Consequently, she is forced to lie to her anti-American constituents and deny that whe was part and parcel in protecting our nation.

She is a sleeze bag, not because she knew before the fact about waterboarding, but because she has dishonestly politicized the issue for her own gain.

Posted by: AmericanHeretic | May 9, 2009 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Fundamentalist Democrats like Pelosi, Frank, Kerry , Harman, Feinstein and Reid need to be shown the door for failing to represent the American people in good faith.

Posted by: wapoisajoke | May 9, 2009 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Maybe some day the American voter will realize that it is not just the Democrats
or the Republicans but both parties who are
responsible for the lies we hear. Maybe some day we will realize that we need new leadership and will vote the incumbents out of office. We, as a nation, dislike Congress but continue to re-elect OUR congressman because they 'bring home the bacon' and then we complain about deficits and debt. It is we, the voter, who are the problem. We have the power--the vote-- to change things if we will exercise that power.

Posted by: jslivesay | May 9, 2009 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Come on folks.... this is hilarious!

History proves that ever since Karl's Manifesto, Radical Leftist HAVE to lie to get elected and stay in power...

Read Obama's mentor, Saul Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals"!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saul_Alinsky

"...Alinsky was a critic of mainstream liberalism, which he considered passive and ineffective. In Rules for Radicals, he argued that the most effective means are whatever will achieve the desired ends, and that an intermediate end for radicals should be democracy because of its relative ease to work within to achieve other ends of social justice."

"WHATEVER WILL ACHIEVE THE DESIRED END"...

"AN INTERMEDIATE END... SHOULD BE DEMOCRACY"...

Howard Ino

Posted by: im14fun | May 9, 2009 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Could it be that....PELOSI LIED, MILLIONS DIED! Return to beginning and repeat one time for each of the 500 million jobs Mrs. Pelosi said we are going to lose.

Posted by: alfrede1 | May 9, 2009 4:07 PM | Report abuse

"The dangerous American fascist is the man who wants to do in the
United States in an American way what Hitler did in Germany in a Prussian
way. The American fascist would prefer not to use violence. His method is to poison the channels of public information.

With a fascist the problem is never how best to present the truth to
the public but how best to use the news to deceive the public into giving the fascist and his group more money or more power...

Still another danger is represented by those who, paying lip service
to democracy and the common welfare, in their insatiable greed for money and the power which money gives, do not hesitate surreptitiously to evade the laws designed to safeguard the public from monopolistic extortion...

The American fascists are most easily recognized by their deliberate
perversion of truth and fact. Their newspapers and propaganda carefully
cultivate every fissure of disunity, every crack in the common front against
fascism... They claim to be super-patriots, but they would destroy every
liberty guaranteed by the Constitution. They demand free enterprise, but are the spokesmen for monopoly and vested interest.

Their final objective toward which all their deceit is directed is to
capture political power so that, using the power of the state and the power
of the market simultaneously, they may keep the common man in eternal
subjection."

Henry A.Wallace, 1944, FDR's VP, Democrat



Posted by: pjdj | May 9, 2009 4:13 PM | Report abuse

I read allot on what goes on in this governement and I really must say this is the domestic abuse nation. Its the only country where our politicians can beat us, rob us, and abuse us and not only do we take it, but we re-elect them. Tell me you cant see the similarities in domestic abuse cases.

I have no respect for anyoone in this governement nor half the people in this country anymore.

I would have respect for a leader who stood up and said, YES we used extreme interrogation tactics against extreme nutjobs that endanger the very way of life here. Yes we went after Arabs because its not nuns blowing buildings up and NO we will not stop because its politically incorrect but rather will continue and hunt any enemy of the United States to far reaches of the Earth if necessary. Basically Whatever it takes to keep America #1. And I would have respect for the Americans that would stand behind this, because anything else is Un American, and feeds the internal scandal to kill this country from within. God do I wish this country would wake up and actually use its Freedoms for the benefit rather than the destruction of this country.


Posted by: WhattaWorld | May 9, 2009 4:28 PM | Report abuse

The CIA memos support Nancy Pelosi's claim about not being told that waterboarding and the other tactics reported in the news at that time were being used.

Why did the Washington Post spin their headline and much of the body of their report to mislead gullible fools into thinking the memos "refuted" Pelosi's claim?

Posted by: Gawd | May 9, 2009 4:37 PM | Report abuse

If you think Pelosi is lying, then you'll love this one.


Obama - Smoking gun finally found?
Tue Apr 28, 2009

AP- WASHINGTON D.C. - In a move certain to fuel the debate over Obama's
qualifications for the presidency, the group "Americans for Freedom of
Information" has released copies of President Obama's college transcripts
>from Occidental College. Released today, the transcript indicates that Obama under the name Barry Soetoro, received financial aid as a foreign student from Indonesia as an undergraduate at the school. The transcript was released by Occidental College in compliance with a court order in a suit brought by the group in the Superior Court of California. The transcript
shows that Obama (Soetoro) applied for financial aid and was awarded a
fellowship for foreign students from the Fulbright Foundation Scholarship
program. To qualify, for the scholarship, a student must claim foreign
citizenship. This document would seem to provide the smoking gun that many of Obama's detractors have been seeking.

The news has created a firestorm at the White House as the release casts
increasing doubt about Obama's legitimacy and qualification to serve as
president. When reached for comment in London, where he has been in meetings with British Prime Minister Gordon Brown, Obama smiled but refused comment on the issue. Meanwhile, White House press secretary Robert Gibbs scoffed at the report stating that this was obviously another attempt by a right-wing conservative group to discredit the president and undermine the administration's efforts to move the country in a new direction.

Britain's Daily Mail has also carried the story in a front-page article
titled, "Obama Eligibility Questioned", leading some to speculate that the
story may overshadow economic issues on Obama's first official visit to the
U.K.

In a related matter, under growing pressure from several groups, Justice
Antonin Scalia announced that the Supreme Court agreed on Tuesday to hear arguments concerning Obama's legal eligibility to serve as President in a case brought by Leo Donofrio of New Jersey. This lawsuit claims Obama's dual citizenship disqualified him from serving as president. Donofrio's case is just one of 18 suits brought by citizens demanding proof of Obama's
citizenship or qualification to serve as president.

Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation has released the results
of their investigation of Obama's campaign spending. This study estimates
that Obama has spent upwards of $950,000 in campaign funds in the past year with eleven law firms in 12 states for legal resources to block disclosure of any of his personal records. Mr. Kreep indicated that the investigation is still ongoing but that the final report will be provided to the U.S. attorney general, Eric Holder. Mr. Holder has refused to comment on the matter.

Posted by: pjdj | May 9, 2009 5:51 PM | Report abuse

Does this mean we get an election do-over?

Great!

"President Hillary Clinton"...

Posted by: Gawd | May 9, 2009 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Your current terminalogical inexactitudes
aka lies makes me wonder whether you should ask for some treatment at Napa near your winery. You know Napa State Hospital that caters the mentally deranged. Try asking yourself just one simple question -
"What do you not understand about briefing

Posted by: Rhodey | May 9, 2009 7:44 PM | Report abuse

It has always been perfectly clear that Nancy Pelosi is a idiot. Now it is perfectly clear that she is a lying idiot. She needs to resign her senate seat ASAP.

Posted by: scamper330 | May 9, 2009 8:23 PM | Report abuse

Nancy Pelosi is an embarrassment to the country. That deer in the headlights look she has is comical! And now that she is trying a little too hard to convince us that she is telling the truth when it is quite evident she is lying her buns off, those eyes almost pop out of her empty head!!

Posted by: scamper330 | May 9, 2009 8:27 PM | Report abuse

why wasen't this done from the beginning ? this god dam america ! white hating, terrorist, has bankrupted the dam country !
taken over banks, large corporations,next socialized medicine loving, s.o.b. allowed to get this far ? now everything he signed is void. funny come to think of it ! this country is soooooooooooo corrupted ! that's why other countries take advantage of this weakness.now could a republican be allowed to get away with this ? not that it matters these days. these people should be charge, and put away.

Posted by: MichaelColeman1 | May 9, 2009 8:49 PM | Report abuse

Surely among the ranks of the Democratic academic elite, there must be one or two psychiatrists. Are they so incompetent that they have not yet identified the mentally ill who surround Obama, the Narcissist-in-Chief? Then having done so, declare them to all the world, if for no other reason than to save themselves? It just doesn't make sense.

Posted by: LlightSaber | May 9, 2009 8:51 PM | Report abuse

why wasen't this done from the beginning ? this god dam america ! white hating, terrorist, has bankrupted the dam country !
taken over banks, large corporations,next socialized medicine loving, s.o.b. allowed to get this far ? now everything he signed is void. funny come to think of it ! this country is soooooooooooo corrupted ! that's why other countries take advantage of this weakness.now could a republican be allowed to get away with this ? not that it matters these days. these people should be charge, and put away.

Posted by: MichaelColeman1 | May 9, 2009 8:51 PM | Report abuse

The most serious problem Nancy faces is: Why didn't she ask any questions? If she was so in the dark about what was being done, or not being done, what prevented her? She knew about a fellow congresswoman's questionable behavior,which has just come to light. She appears to be very selective about what she knows and what she claims not to "know" !!!! So much for the vaunted integrity of our congress.

Posted by: vltg | May 9, 2009 9:04 PM | Report abuse

If she had a hand in it, she need to burn as well. But first, we need to get people on board with prosecution. Polls are trending toward people not wanting to prosecute.

Righties are winning the P.R. war, especially with the ridiculous talking point of "we do this to our own soldiers, therefore it's not torture" crap.

We have to start debunking these lies.

http://progressnotcongress.org/blog/?p=849

Posted by: Atticus1104 | May 9, 2009 9:17 PM | Report abuse

You anti - torture scumbags would let your own children have their throats cut rather than waterbaord a terrorist???

What is wrong with you people?

Posted by: szore2006 | May 9, 2009 10:37 PM | Report abuse

I saw a guy in a video water-boarded at had one of Americas most disgusting humans this side of Al Gore,Alan Dershowitz in it blabbing like a fool about "Torture". It was actually quite funny because after this poor schlub was "Tortured" he was joking about it and he was still wet,something tells me that 5 minutes after REAL torture you would probably still be a little f-ed up. What really is tortured is listening to the demorats like Nancy Pelosi trying to explain how even though they knew about the "Torture" and agreed with it until it became a political weapon to use against Dubya it was still all the evil George Bush's fault.The pathetic part is that you would expect Nancy and the dems to lie and cheat in order to win elections but that doesn't excuse the MSM scum who aided and abetted their preferred party.

Posted by: fe59 | May 9, 2009 11:05 PM | Report abuse

what a surprise a lying congress leader if you don't know how stupid the voters are you vote for these criminals it is not even that they take bribes but they are selling out so cheap water boarding who cares why don't we protest the treatment of gi's wait there are not any they are all murdered a terrorist is a war criminal with zero rights non uniformed combatants can be shot on the spot close gitmo fine hang the 220 or so if you think there is any difference between muslims you don't know anything about their 11th century cult it is us or them i vote us here some easy rules to help if they hide in schools hospitals children shot them and bury them with a pig take their dna and kill any relative if they cover their face shoot ak 47 shoot no nukes and destroy any suspect sites sink their ships blockade their ports invade their dictatorships kill their leaders and convert them to a modern religion

Posted by: m0j0 | May 10, 2009 12:04 AM | Report abuse

Ms. 'P' could care less how outraged all you little people are...

She really is above it all. And will tolerate the rabble's anger because to her it's meaningless; she's NOT going anywhere. Yeah she got caught, trying to use the issue of torture to politically pander to the 'sheeple', but having that move fail & unmask her for the self-indulgent, craven, liar she is; besides some limited embarrassment, will not do much to her politically.

Nancy will CONTINUE to be the Queen Bee answerable to no one!

Posted by: mbs1960 | May 10, 2009 12:46 AM | Report abuse

Pelosi recieved classified information she could not divulge it. As a member of the legislative branch she did not have the power to stop it. This torture program was
implemented and carried out by the administrative side of government, Bush,Cheney Inc.
If she had of gone to the newspapers with what she knew the same conservative idiots
who are castigating her now,would have yelled treason then.

Posted by: truthspeaker11 | May 10, 2009 1:32 AM | Report abuse

pjdj posted:
Obama - Smoking gun finally found?
Tue Apr 28, 2009

AP- WASHINGTON D.C. - In a move certain to fuel the debate over Obama's
qualifications for the presidency, the group "Americans for Freedom of
Information" has released copies of President Obama's college transcripts.
****************************************
Sorry but this appears to be a hoax meant
to excite the gullible conservative.
Are there any other kind?

Posted by: truthspeaker11 | May 10, 2009 1:39 AM | Report abuse

truthseeker,

Get your crying towels...three for a dollar !

Posted by: pjdj | May 10, 2009 3:09 AM | Report abuse

It's not unusual for a politician to lie. Especially a democrat.

Posted by: bartolut2 | May 10, 2009 6:37 AM | Report abuse

Has everyone forgotten that the waterboarding used on the Islamic leadership was successful in shutting down a sleeper cell on the west coast, almost assuredly preventing a catastrophic terrorist event that was well into the final planning stages.

Give Nancy a pass and let's waterboard away...

Posted by: RobertH1 | May 10, 2009 7:35 AM | Report abuse

People seem to forget that a President alone cannot do ANYTHING. He must have the Congress' approval. There are some things that may be secretive, but if it is big, then it needs big money and so Congress has to be involved. The thing that really irritates me is that minutes and attendance at these meetings are taken, so how dare Mrs. Pelosi insult my intelligence by saying that she didn't know what was going on. Does she think that we are all stupid?

This is a bag of worms and should never have been opened. Every President has some things that really would be best if they were not on the front page of the paper and this just sets a really bad precedent. It is called "Walk a mile in my shoes."

Posted by: blondehussy | May 10, 2009 8:33 AM | Report abuse

Ah, Pelosi-- promised us the "most ethical Congress ever." What did we get? Lies, lies, and more lies.

The Republicans may not be able to get their act together, but Pelosi is certainly doing all she can to ensure that they'll gain a few seats in the next election, in spite of themselves.

Posted by: morganfrost | May 10, 2009 10:16 AM | Report abuse

pjdj wrote:
truthseeker,

Get your crying towels...three for a dollar !
***************************************
Gee, you are dense,I repeat the Occidental
transcript story is a hoax it did not come
from the Associated Press.
The fact that fake news and their shills
like Shamity are not blaring this should
have told you something.
That is if you were not so dense.

Posted by: truthspeaker11 | May 10, 2009 11:05 AM | Report abuse

Washington DC and most politicians are out of touch with Reality.

Pelosi,and Franks are two who need someone to wake them up from their stupor, though in todays atmospere in their realm it seems people want to keep dreaming instead of facing truth.

Lost Spirits are unable to lead anything, much less themselves...(although their spirits are within themselves they have no idea of consciousness...)

Posted by: amaterasu2004 | May 10, 2009 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Instead of her nose growing like Pinnochio, Perlosi's face seems to be falling off.....just like her support. What a lying disgraceful hag this woman is.

Posted by: aroleflin | May 10, 2009 12:43 PM | Report abuse

My Fellow Americans:

DON'T BLAME Queen Pelosi for what she says or does not say. We all know she lies, cheats, steals, misrepresents herself and others, etc. She is unworthy of the office she holds.

The people I blame are in California. Land of fruits and nuts. They keep voting her in. I blame San Francisco voters. Come on California, get your head out of the beach sand and throw Pelosi OUT. NOW. Impeach her. She lies, cheats, steals, and is a political bumb. We deserve better.

Posted by: Dennis23 | May 10, 2009 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Madam Pelosi is a lying sack of crap from the city by the bay saturated by b.s..However she is consistent in that she really believes George Bush & Cheney are the bad guys sent by the devil-republican party to make her life miserable.

Posted by: a4853916 | May 10, 2009 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Madam Pelosi is a lying sack of crap from the city by the bay saturated by b.s..However she is consistent in that she really believes George Bush & Cheney are the bad guys sent by the devil-republican party to make her life miserable.

Posted by: a4853916 | May 10, 2009 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Dennis23 wrote:
My Fellow Americans:

DON'T BLAME Queen Pelosi for what she says or does not say. We all know she lies, cheats, steals, misrepresents herself and others, etc. She is unworthy of the office she holds.

The people I blame are in California. Land of fruits and nuts.
***********************************
Dennis23 would you share with us the name of your representative you may also live in a land of fruits and conservative wingnuts.

Posted by: truthspeaker11 | May 10, 2009 2:56 PM | Report abuse

A human, such as she, in a position, such as she is, has to know records are kept of these kinds of things. Lack of understanding, at this level, is just not in play. She is entitled to represent those who elected her, but that's it. Ms. Pelosi is a disgrace to the US Government,each American, her Church, her constituents and, whether or not she knows it, herself. The Democrats have never learned what to do with success when they achieve it. They thought getting elected was hard. The hard part is governance. Wait till the "off year" election. No one will remember 1994.

Posted by: tigervoice | May 10, 2009 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Folks, THINK...

The memos released so far DO NOT refute one thing Nancy Pelosi said earlier about her one briefing in 2002 with Porter Goss no matter HOW mainstream media "suggests" otherwise.

Not...one...thing.

Again, THINK...

IF there were CIA memos that DID indict Nancy Pelosi and other Dems as having been briefed on the full extent of Bush's Torture Culture techniques but "signed off" on them or "did nothing" about them, those memos would have met the same fate the non-existant CIA memos Dick Cheney claims exist showing that their torture techiques elicted information that saved American lives that could not have been elicited faster and easier through ordinary methods:

CHENEY WOULD HAVE HAD THEM "LEAKED" AND REPORTED BY THE NEW YORK TIMES...BEFORE LAST NOVEMBER'S ELECTION!

But he didn't.

Conclusion: THEY DON'T EXIST.

Have you people really been this deaf, dumb and blind to the modus operandi of the Bush administration over the past eight years to be so totally bamboozled by it AGAIN this soon?

Posted by: Gawd | May 10, 2009 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Now we know why there has been no push from congress and the executive branch for investigations...they're all guilty cowards!

Posted by: dsigeorge | May 11, 2009 10:33 AM | Report abuse

So what if she did know? Did she also know the majority of the prisoners were innocent? Did she know that they were using the same techniques over and over on the same men? Did she also believe the yellow cake lie? The Bush administration is guilty and doing their usual deal of passing the buck and the blame.

Posted by: kimkimminni1 | May 11, 2009 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Nancy pelosi has never been a friend of the american citizen, Nancy is for Nancy and why the Democratic party continues to side with her makes you doubt the intelligence of the leaders of the party. She is technically a loser and will later haunt the partys efforts to accomplish things, after all her first statement to the american people after she met with Bush was I do not want to hear of impeachment, from that statement you knew that the republican party was holding something over her

Posted by: ekirch | May 11, 2009 12:05 PM | Report abuse

This allegation is pretty much irrelevant to me...beyond this: if Pelosi was in on torturing prisoners (and if there was anything she could have done about it...a tough question, since IF she was actually briefed, she couldn't share the information that she'd been it was going on, even with her colleagues) then she shares the responsibility...and deserves to be prosecuted along with those who ordered it done, and those who did it.

But this report is from the CIA, which practices deception for a living...and if it is believed, it may help (as its release is intended) to shield the CIA from criticism and/or disciplinary action...so its CYA from the CIA, and therefore even LESS reliable than the CIA's alleged reports of WMD in Iraq (which, we may recall, were dead wrong).

Posted by: Observer44 | May 11, 2009 12:14 PM | Report abuse

blondehussy | May 10, 2009 8:33 AM | writes:

"People seem to forget that a President alone cannot do ANYTHING. He must have the Congress' approval. There are some things that may be secretive, but if it is big, then it needs big money and so Congress has to be involved - - -"

Wrong! A President can do a great deal without congressional approval. Just recently one approved shooting and killing three priates who were holding a US merchant captain hostage without so much as a congressional by-your-leave. This also applies to other excecutive branch officials. Back in the 1980's one of the latter managed to set aside well over $2 billion without it getting noticed -- at least not until he authorized building a very expensive new headquarters for his agency without congressional approval. Even then he would have probably gotten away with it if he'd picked the "right" congressional district to build it in. Ajusted for inflation, by 2002 that $2 billion in 1980's dollars would have bought a whole lot of "enhanced interrogation" goodies. br

Posted by: brcolorado | May 11, 2009 12:47 PM | Report abuse

The actual memos don't refute what Pelosi claimed last month. There is no indication in the memos that she was told details about the then current use of waterboarding or "these other enhanced interrogation methods" (Pelosi's claim), which, at the time in the news were face-slapping, head bashing against the wall, insects in small, coffin-like confinements, etc.

What is interesting is that many of the SUBSEQUENT briefings of other members of Congress DID include more details about the then current use of waterboarding, etc.

Was the CIA trying to set the tone for all subsequent reactions to more details about waterboarding, etc. by SOFT-PEDDLING the first briefing with Pelosi and Goss in order to elicit a low-key reaction from them? Were they trying to make everyone who was briefed AFTER Pelosi and Goss' first and very mild briefing think Pelosi's understandably low-key response to HER briefing was appropriate and an indication that there was no Democratic leadership interest in opposing the techniques?

It is an old trick, you know. A clever and effective one. Make sure the first person (usually the leader of the group) gets told nothing of particular alarm so it really doesn't matter what you tell the subsequent attendees because they'll take their cue for how to react to it by the relative lack of reaction from the leader's first "briefing".

And, along the way, the CIA could cover their butts on a later claim to have "told Congress" all about the techniques.

I believe Nancy Pelosi, I don't tend to believe the CIA's "best recollection" memos and I DEFINITELY don't believe our childish media's spin clearly meant to mislead gullible fools into thinking Pelosi was caught in a big lie about it in order to attract more eyes and ears to a story that is really a non-issue.

Posted by: Gawd | May 11, 2009 2:53 PM | Report abuse

If California ever becomes physically detached from the rest of the contiguous United States, because of an earthquake, the Parks and Recreation commission could make a beautiful santuary island for the green-at-any-price crowd, displaced Vermonters, actors, socialists (including Bernie Sanders and Michael Moore), and any number of other weird politicians and secularists. It would be the right thing to do! Nancy, of course, would be de facto over-lord and Arnold could be her security chief.

Posted by: roanns | May 11, 2009 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Of course Pelosi knew. In something risky as this issue, the first rule in the military and intelligence communities is CYA, COVER YOUR BASS! It's just hard to believe Pelosi thinks she can get away with it.

Posted by: billyrockville | May 11, 2009 7:04 PM | Report abuse

Of course Pelosi knew. In something risky as this issue, the first rule in the military and intelligence communities is CYA, COVER YOUR BASS! It's just hard to believe Pelosi thinks she can get away with it.

Posted by: billyrockville | May 11, 2009 7:04 PM | Report abuse

Albert Einstein had it right when he said that "There are only two truly infinite things: the universe and stupidity. And I am unsure about the universe."

Obama,Pelosi, Reed, et al are an example of the infinite stupidity of the left wing radicals who voted for them.
Elections have consequences...

moveon.org Move On!

Posted by: reg4 | May 12, 2009 6:42 PM | Report abuse

Truthspeaker11:

Why not yell treason now!

Posted by: reg4 | May 12, 2009 6:56 PM | Report abuse

kimkimminni1: ... the majority of the prisoners were innocent? And just how would she know that (and how would you know that she knew that?) You apparently think people are stupid enough to believe what you say - just who is the stupid one? not you?

Posted by: reg4 | May 12, 2009 7:01 PM | Report abuse

It should be obvious to even the most mentally challenged among us (i.e., liberals) that waterboarding as practiced by the CIA is not torture! Loud music is torture? Sleep deprivation is torture? Contrast that with beheadings, stoning someone, cuting off hands, pulling out fingernails, etc. Now that is torture.
If loud music is torture then my children torture me quiet often. Killing thousands with planes crashing into the trade center: that is torture. I value the life of our soldiers, my children, my friends and relatives, etc. enough to find waterboarding not to be torture unlike the opinions of mis-guided liberals!

Posted by: reg4 | May 12, 2009 7:18 PM | Report abuse

Enough is enough everyone. Let's move on and spend time, money, and resources on those items on the agenda that are truely important today. What happen happened. It's over. We're spending way to much time on this "Witch Hunt" pointing fingers at everyone. And it appears that the more time we spend, the more we find out who knew. OK ..... let's move on!

The democrats are going after the old administration just like they said they would.

Bottom line ..... it's a waste of time and energy. At the end of the day, all they actually want to do is ..... get even with Mr. Bush. Whethere we like it or not Mr. Bush's administration did thier jobs and stuck to their guns. What would you have done? Really.

So now that the roles are reversed and the democrates are in power, they want to flex their muscle. STOP WASTING TIME DEMOCRATES! Move on before the rest of you are found out. Now won't that be interesting!

Posted by: Alphonse2 | May 13, 2009 12:21 AM | Report abuse

"beheadings...Now that is torture."

wow. Nothing like getting lectured on the defintion of "mentally challenged" by the anti-liberal right to remind us why it is so important to prevent them from controlling the levers of powers in the government ever again.

Posted by: Gawd | May 13, 2009 4:54 AM | Report abuse

Gawd:
Bury your head in the sand and wait for the next 911! It could be my city, my home, my children, my friends - it could be me (you would like that). It could be you and yours...

Posted by: reg4 | May 13, 2009 11:17 AM | Report abuse

reg4, I'm just waiting for Cheney to demand that the CIA memos be released showing all the great information they gathered from detainees after they were beheaded.

Speaking of Cheney, he was interviewed by Neil Cavuto on Faux News Channel yesterday and, since his guard was down because Cavuto is paid to support Republican talking points, he inadvertantly confirmed that the recently-released CIA memos DO NOT contradict what Pelosi said earlier about her briefing.

He said he could not tell from those memos whether or not Pelosi was told the details of the EITs or whether she was simply told about the procedures in general.

Posted by: Gawd | May 13, 2009 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Not only did Pelosi know about the waterboarding when it was happening....she wanted to know if the interrogators were doing enough. She wanted more than just waterboarding!

All that change we’ve been hearing about – we will see before years end – with Pelosi the first casualty of change. She started this whole “torture” issue to use politically – and it has come back to snare the pig herself.

Justice is swift – it is complete – and it is so sweet!!

And no one needs to wish for this administration to fail – they already have. I’ve always felt the best way to see the Lib’s shoot themselves – was to step out of the way.

This administration is a daily disaster – and I’m loving it.....

Posted by: rto1 | May 14, 2009 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Nancy Pelosi is a liar and I can't wait for her to be booted out.. along with the rest of the lying democrats. This country is in serious trouble, thanks to all the people who wanted change.. voted for Obama. oh we are getting change alright. Wait here comes socialism, universal health care where the government decides whether you live or die.. thank you democrats. Yes these policies have failed in other countries around the world. Most people are so darn clueless to even know what the heck is going on.. Everyone should be scared.. OH I almost forgot. good ole obama wants cap and trade.. so most of our electric bills will sky rocket.. just the change we need!!! God help us all! Our fore fathers must be turning in their graves!

Posted by: stansa99 | May 14, 2009 10:23 PM | Report abuse

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