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House Votes to End Federal Funding for ACORN

By Perry Bacon Jr.
Continuing the GOP's aggressive effort against the community organizing group ACORN, the House today passed by a wide margin a provision that would bar ACORN from receiving any federal funding.

Long opposed by conservatives, who frequently accuse the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now of voter fraud, the group has received bipartisan criticism over the last week after a video emerged in which two conservative activists, who posed as a prostitute and her pimp, released hidden-camera videos in which ACORN employees in Baltimore gave advice to buy a home and start a brothel.

The House today passed a bill by a 345-75 vote to stop all federal funding to ACORN. Every House Republican who attended the vote backed the measure, as well as 172 Democrats, while only 75 Democrats opposed it. The Senate, which earlier this week passed a bill by a 83 to 7 margin to bar ACORN from receiving federal housing grants from the Department of Housing and Urban Development, is considering a complete ban similar to that passed by the House. Senate Republicans have said the group has received more than $50 million from the federal government since 1994.

"This united Republican effort to defund ACORN is a victory for the rule of law and taxpayers across the country," said House Minority Whip Eric Cantor (R-Va.)

By Web Politics Editor  |  September 17, 2009; 3:12 PM ET
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Apparently if you're a defense contractor, you can do a whole lot worse and even commit outright crimes and not get defunded.

Posted by: geezjan | September 17, 2009 3:19 PM | Report abuse

I would be very interested which states' representatives voted to continue sending ACORN money. Anyone?

Posted by: JWMeritt | September 17, 2009 3:20 PM | Report abuse

That's fine and is a good move but what about Blackwater or whatever they're calling themselves these days? After all, they only murdered people and laughed about it. How about Haliburton? They only electtrocuted people and covered up a rape of American women who worked for one of their spin off companies. Lets now cut their funding too.

Posted by: polcat | September 17, 2009 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Nope, not just Baltimore... Baltimore, DC, NYC, San Bernardino, San Diego, and who knows what's next. They've been releasing videos every couple of days for over a week now. Not exactly an isolated incident.

Posted by: Peejay | September 17, 2009 3:21 PM | Report abuse

What does Blackwater have to do with this issue?

Posted by: Peejay | September 17, 2009 3:22 PM | Report abuse

"I would be very interested which states' representatives voted to continue sending ACORN money. Anyone?"
Posted by: JWMeritt

I'd like to hope mine wasn't a total coward to the wacko right-wing psycho movement, but I doubt it...

Posted by: geezjan | September 17, 2009 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Somebody wake up Dottydo and Ekim, their dreams have all come true.


Posted by: lindalovejones | September 17, 2009 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Not a single dime to these lawbreakers from my taxpaying family.

Thank you, Republicans and most of you Democrats, for upholding the rule of law, a thing most precious for human life and liberty.

And a special thanks to the creativity and bravery of O'Keefe and Giles, for showing the way journalism used to work -- to shine light in dark places.

This is a day of great rejoicing and thankfulness for me and my whole family.

Posted by: harrietvanewimsey | September 17, 2009 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Well its about time!
and they were set to get 8.5 BILLION DOLLARS - that should be gone to.
they are a criminal enterprise and the nation should be glad to get rid of them.
and wait until you see the rest of the video's. There are a lot more.

Posted by: infantry11b4faus | September 17, 2009 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Interesting.
Considering the fact that ACORN was instumental in getting Barack Obama elected; if he doesn't come to their defense, could this action be construed as a betrayal? Throwing them to the dogs?

Posted by: mhoust | September 17, 2009 3:25 PM | Report abuse

I'd like to hope mine wasn't a total coward to the wacko right-wing psycho movement, but I doubt it...
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So you want your Representative to continue to support a group that had no problem bringing underage girls into the country as prostitutes?

Interesting...

Posted by: websterr1 | September 17, 2009 3:28 PM | Report abuse

I bet if a 'real' investigation is done by a indepentent board..that Rangels name would turn up again...along with the 75 that voted against the bill....hahahahaha! pelosi was sucessuful 6 times before in blocking action...but the TRUTH DOES PREVAIL...and the crooks will fall just like obama's approval ratings....I'm sure the liberal whacks are having a meeting on how to bring the Race Card and divert more attention away from the fact they are 'Weak and Losers'

Posted by: JWx2 | September 17, 2009 3:30 PM | Report abuse

I'd like to hope mine wasn't a total coward to the wacko right-wing psycho movement, but I doubt it...
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So you want your Representative to continue to support a group that had no problem bringing underage girls into the country as prostitutes?

Interesting...
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Rather I SHOULD have said that had EMPLOYEES that had no problem with it. I truly don't believe the Group as a whole would endorse this in any way.

Posted by: websterr1 | September 17, 2009 3:30 PM | Report abuse

It was right to defund Acorn but interesting that this was done so quickly before completion of a thorough investigation. Can someone explain why this HAS NOT BEEN DONE TO BLACKWATER? No offense, but their transgression and tax-payer rip off makes Acorn funding look like pocket change. I thought the Republicans considered themselves the "guardians" of the military but yet where have they been on the Blackwater criminal activities that have harmed our troops? Oh, yeh...forgot Blackwater was a cover for the owner's own private Christian Crusade. HYPOCRISY.

Posted by: boomerbaby54 | September 17, 2009 3:30 PM | Report abuse

The Volokh Conspiracy blog has been entertaining a discussion on whether defunding ACORN would be an unconstitutional bill of attainder. I think that such a conclusion is a stretch, but you can read it for yourself:

http://volokh.com/posts/1253048051.shtml

Posted by: phillyreader | September 17, 2009 3:31 PM | Report abuse

perhaps fools on the hill are beginning to understand why they are there regardless of their politcal considerations. acorn and the other nuts can address their beliefs but not at the taxpayers expense.let them have paid lobbyists like the rest of the whiners.lot of $$$ floating around out there looking to invest in bs

Posted by: pofinpa | September 17, 2009 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Right wing nuts praising the rule of law... Irony and stupidity doesn't get any richer than that! I needed the laugh...

Posted by: geezjan | September 17, 2009 3:34 PM | Report abuse

This is actually a fine thing. There are plenty of well-run, membership-based liberal organizations that are willing to fill the void left if ACORN falls. (no pun intended.)

Posted by: jaho | September 17, 2009 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Here are the Congresspersons who wish to continue to fund ACORN....

Baldwin
Becerra
Brady (PA)
Brown, Corrine
Butterfield
Capuano
Carson (IN)
Castor (FL)
Cleaver
Clyburn
Crowley
Cummings
Davis (IL)
DeGette
Delahunt
Doyle
Edwards (MD)
Ellison
Engel
Fattah
Filner
Fudge
Green, Al
Grijalva
Hinchey
Hirono
Holt
Honda
Jackson (IL)
Jackson-Lee (TX)
Johnson, E. B.
Kilpatrick (MI)
Kucinich
Larsen (WA)
Lee (CA)
Lewis (GA)
Lynch
Markey (MA)
McCollum
McDermott
McGovern
Meeks (NY)
Mollohan
Moore (WI)
Moran (VA)
Nadler (NY)
Neal (MA)
Olver
Pallone
Pascrell
Payne
Polis (CO)
Price (NC)
Rahall
Rangel
Roybal-Allard
Rush
Sánchez, Linda T.
Schakowsky
Scott (GA)
Scott (VA)
Serrano
Sherman
Sires
Slaughter
Stark
Thompson (MS)
Towns
Tsongas
Velázquez
Waters
Watson
Waxman
Wexler
Woolsey

Posted by: boosterprez | September 17, 2009 3:35 PM | Report abuse

so what are the right wing freaks going to whine about now?

Posted by: khote14 | September 17, 2009 3:37 PM | Report abuse

WE NEED THE NAMES OF THE PEOPLE WHO VTED TO KEEP THE FUNDING........I HOPE I DONT HAVE TO MOVE

Posted by: MOOKIELAMO | September 17, 2009 3:37 PM | Report abuse

It would seem a thorough investigation should be done before chumming up the waters more with conservative ire. Dems of course are going to go full steam ahead with the Republicans because of the videos. It's awful, yes. But I am just curious about the good that ACORN has done for people. Given the videos, a simple-minded person would think that breaking laws for pimps and prostitutes constitutes the entire mission of ACORN. Alas, I realize I am a voice that shouts from the gray areas of life and most of us want black and white. It's so much easier to live there, you know.

Posted by: imamanateenotaccow | September 17, 2009 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Seems the "right wing" are the only ones getting anything done lately....even out of power, we still have something to say, and people ARE listening...Van Jones is gone, and ACORN is defunded...both good deeds for the American people...can't wait to see what's next....

Posted by: boosterprez | September 17, 2009 3:39 PM | Report abuse

"so what are the right wing freaks going to whine about now?"
Posted by: khote14

Tune into Beckhannitylimbaughlevin to find out. They'll be instructed on what to whine about next just as soon as their leaders are done celebrating their somehow meaningful victory.

Posted by: geezjan | September 17, 2009 3:40 PM | Report abuse

"So you want your Representative to continue to support a group that had no problem bringing underage girls into the country as prostitutes?"

Ever hear of entrapment?

It's not like ACORN had any thoughts about prostitution until a bunch of sick Republicans went in to trick them since they are completely devoid of any positive programs or initiatives that help anyone except the rich. It's just another typical Republican dirty tricks program.

And it was a few individuals involved, not the organization itself. Why does the right insist on peddling negative BS instead of something of substance?

Posted by: 4AbetterAmerica | September 17, 2009 3:40 PM | Report abuse

As i understand it the liberals did not know how to vote based on the way the proposal was written thus voting the opposite of how they thought they were voting. In the senate 2 of the 7 senators voting to keep funding were from the most corrupt state in the union--ILLINOIS. Also home of the Many village idiots such as Obama and Deadfish Rahm Amanual (spelling)

Posted by: mountaincowboy17 | September 17, 2009 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Hey people... they aren't defunded yet. It is only a bill in process. Keep your eye on the ball as it bounces along. After a few days or weeks, the media hype will die down, and they are bound to changed the resoluion. Right now both the Senate and the House are using this as a piblicity stunt and patting themselves on the back. How do you think the 8.5 Billion provision got into the stimulus package in the first place. If you recall there was an amendmant to defund it then too, but in the dark of the night, the amendment was voted down. Don't give these guys to much credit. They are like remorseful addicts that keep returning to their drug (spending).

Posted by: EvreeMan | September 17, 2009 3:41 PM | Report abuse

"Given the videos, a simple-minded person would think that breaking laws for pimps and prostitutes constitutes the entire mission of ACORN."

Have you even watched those videos? Not one ACORN person seemed even remotely concerned about what the pimp and prostitute were asking for expecting...as if this kind of thing happens every day. THAT should say plenty to anyone who has misgivings about this.

At the very least, ACORN does more harm than good for the democrats and, in the end, isn't that all the DEMS care about???

Posted by: boosterprez | September 17, 2009 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, websterr1 -- let's not forgot that, in addition to prostitution, ACORN was essentially condoning human trafficking, sexual slavery, and pedophilia--and whatever heinous crimes would have been committed in order to separate the girls from their families and bring them into the country.

This cannot and should not be tolerated or swept under the rug by dismissing it as the ravings of right-wingers or by diverting attention to military contractors.

Posted by: JoeSchmoe06 | September 17, 2009 3:42 PM | Report abuse

The two young journalists (20 and 25 years-old) are described as "conservative activists" ?

Are we to assume ONLY conservative journalists care about ACORNs criminal behavior ?

Is underage prostitution now OK with the Left ?

Why are the New York Times, the Post, CNN, CBS and NBC not investigating ACORN ?

Liberal Jon Stewart yesterday on the Daily Show admitted even he a "fake journalist" was ashamed on the mainstream media.

Posted by: pvilso24 | September 17, 2009 3:42 PM | Report abuse

In answer to the comparisons between the ACORN scandal and the war profiteering under Bush admin, the salient issue is the misuse of federal funds.

Wondering where the outrage on the right over the acts of companies like Halliburton, which have 'lost' billions of taxpayer dollars (as opposed to at worst misusing millions, as ACORN is accused of) is quite a valid point.

It seems that many on the right a) have no sense of proportionality and b) are ranting hypocrites. But most of the rest of us already knew that.

Posted by: micron26 | September 17, 2009 3:42 PM | Report abuse

It's awful, yes. But I am just curious about the good that ACORN has done for people.
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Agree.
I have no doubt they have in fact done some good for some folks. For those employees of the organization, I feel bad. I think the defunding by the House FOR NOW was the right thing to do, but I also think that once ACORN has a chance to possibly "clean house", it should be re-examined. Hopefully this will wake up the organization to make some changes and they'll end up being a better organization because of it.

Posted by: websterr1 | September 17, 2009 3:43 PM | Report abuse

"Continuing the GOP's aggressive effort against the community organizing group ACORN"

What a bogus headline. What a load of total and complete yellow journalism. So unequivacally unprofessional the author should be fired.

"Every House Republican who attended the vote backed the measure, as well as 172 Democrats, while only 75 Democrats opposed it." As well as 172 Democrats! The first truly bi-partisan piece of legislation, and you would call it "GOP?"

Perry Bacon Jr, you need to go back to school.

Posted by: quark1 | September 17, 2009 3:43 PM | Report abuse

And it was a few individuals involved, not the organization itself.
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Correct, it was indeed only a few.
However, they DID seem to have an endemic problem in the Organization since it happened multiple times in multiple cities. Perhaps in the end, they'll be a better organization when this is all said and done.

Posted by: websterr1 | September 17, 2009 3:46 PM | Report abuse


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Current score:

Glenn Beck = 2
Loony-left d-crat socialists = 0

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Posted by: LoonyLeft | September 17, 2009 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Wondering where the outrage on the right over the acts of companies like Halliburton, which have 'lost' billions of taxpayer dollars (as opposed to at worst misusing millions, as ACORN is accused of) is quite a valid point.

It seems that many on the right a) have no sense of proportionality and b) are ranting hypocrites. But most of the rest of us already knew that.

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Dems have had the power in Congress since 2006...why didn't THEY rant and rave about that questionable war spending? I agree, Republicans didn't seem to care about it either...but it was the libs who were constantly bringing up the subject...

I'll tell you why - politics.

To defund Blackwater would have meant voting against war supplementals...something they allowed themselves to vote for out of political correctness and a wary sense of their own political fate.

Talk about hypocritical...

Posted by: boosterprez | September 17, 2009 3:49 PM | Report abuse

You could probably take down half the Republicans in Congress with a sting like the one they did on ACORN.

Of course, they'd just say gawd forgave them and keep prancing merrily along...

Posted by: geezjan | September 17, 2009 3:51 PM | Report abuse

JWMeritt wrote:

I would be very interested which states' representatives voted to continue sending ACORN money. Anyone?

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Pat Lehey VT
Deland Sanders VT
Roland Burris IL
Dick Durbin IL
Sheldon Whitehouse RI
Kristen Gillebrand NY
Bob Casey PA

Posted by: snowy2 | September 17, 2009 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Earth to dems, nice job. Gotta get this organization off Rush Limbaugh's agenda. Even by liberal standards ACORN is waaaaaaaaaay over the top.

Posted by: oracle2world | September 17, 2009 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Have you even watched those videos? Not one ACORN person seemed even remotely concerned about what the pimp and prostitute were asking for expecting...as if this kind of thing happens every day. THAT should say plenty to anyone who has misgivings about this.

Posted by: boosterprez | September 17, 2009 3:42 PM
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And yet in several locations, the ACORN employees told these individuals to leave and filed police reports. Have they been showing those videos as well?

Posted by: smc91 | September 17, 2009 3:57 PM | Report abuse

This is a red letter day for the Congress and the American taxpayer. Finally, it is coming true that waste and fraud can be stopped when the Congress shows the courage to do what is right for the people who elected them. For the representatives who voted to continue funding this criminal enterprise, shame on you, for being as guilty as ACORN. By voting to keep funding the organization, you are condoning their actions. It makes you wonder how much other illegal funding is voted on everyday in the House! 2010 can't come soon enough, it will be 1994 all over again!

Posted by: jeiken | September 17, 2009 3:59 PM | Report abuse

did the black caucus vote against the measure...
them and the really really liberals that want their agenda to proceed no matter the cost...

Posted by: DwightCollins | September 17, 2009 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Normally I tend to blow off Glenn Beck, but am actually shocked he was right about this.

Laughably Maddow and Olberman actually defended ACORN last night. Maybe Maddow should change her little cutsie 'you lied' screed with a sill grin to 'federally funded child prostitution'. I tend to think of Maddow and Olberman, and Beck and Limbaugh as being more or less the same partison hacks that one can just replace a bunch of Conservative Mumbo Jumbo BS for Liberal Mumbo Jumbo BS, but on this one Beck was right, which is more than I can say for Maddow and Olberman.

Posted by: DCDave11 | September 17, 2009 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Apparently if you're a defense contractor, you can do a whole lot worse and even commit outright crimes and not get defunded.

Posted by: geezjan
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I find that highly unlikely. I think ACORN has set a new standard, if ALL of the truth ever comes to light.

Posted by: AWWNats | September 17, 2009 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Eric Holder should but won't look into ACORN since it most likely directly effects his boss. This story could be bigger than Watergate. Any looking for a chance at a Pulitzer?

Posted by: 45upnorth | September 17, 2009 4:03 PM | Report abuse

So you want your Representative to continue to support a group that had no problem bringing underage girls into the country as prostitutes?"

Ever hear of entrapment?

It's not like ACORN had any thoughts about prostitution until a bunch of sick Republicans went in to trick them since they are completely devoid of any positive programs or initiatives that help anyone except the rich. It's just another typical Republican dirty tricks program.

And it was a few individuals involved, not the organization itself. Why does the right insist on peddling negative BS instead of something of substance?
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If this was CBS investigating a conservative organizaion you would call it journalism...

Posted by: FedUp8 | September 17, 2009 4:03 PM | Report abuse

The Black Congressional Caucus truly are an embarrassment. But beyond their failings what is the point of a having a group segregated from the rest of the House? What is that all about?

Posted by: ChangeWhat | September 17, 2009 4:04 PM | Report abuse

I'm not in disagreement with Congress' act to eleiminate funding for ACORN, but to me, the republicans are a bunch of hypocrits.

What about defunding Blackwater (or "Z" something or other as it prefers to be called now) and Halliburton for breaking and abusing U.S. laws? How many republicans dio you think would support that?

Probably none.

Posted by: twilson66 | September 17, 2009 4:05 PM | Report abuse

I find it amusing that every time something like this happens, there is always somebody in the room screaming:"Sure that was wrong, but somebody else did something else wrong and let's change the topic!"

Posted by: Chuckled | September 17, 2009 4:06 PM | Report abuse

This is a conservative back-lash and was bound to happen. There will be growing intolerance of minorities now and less inclusion and diversity as everyone scrambles for a piece of the cake. Exactly, the same thing happened in more exacerbated versions in Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy. History repeats itself. It is all about the piece of cake, after all.

Only idealists remain untouched by these - but very few are true idealists..

Posted by: mdsubramonia | September 17, 2009 4:06 PM | Report abuse

"That's fine and is a good move but what about Blackwater or whatever they're calling themselves these days? After all, they only murdered people and laughed about it. How about Haliburton? They only electtrocuted people and covered up a rape of American women who worked for one of their spin off companies. Lets now cut their funding too."

Typical lefty mentality..point to other bad behavior to excuse their own.

I agree with you though, lets see some of that "transparency in government" that BO was gonna bring us.

Lets investigate everything and get rid of the crooks on both sides of the aisle.

Who cares if we have to recycle ALL OF THEM in the process. This country could use a fresh start.

I wouldn't trust most of these fools with my car keys if they were parking valets, yet we let them control billions of our tax dollars annually.

Such a sad state of affairs.

Posted by: owebama | September 17, 2009 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Its ok to vote against housing for folk who need help and fine to keep funding the likes of Blackwater and other upstanding amerikan contractors.

Posted by: maat523 | September 17, 2009 4:07 PM | Report abuse

ACORN is charged with voter fraud and advising people to buy a home and start a brothel. This Association of Community Organization for Reform Now (ACORN) has received $50 million dollars of our tax money. They campaigned for Obama on the streets community organization with a philosophical mind to become home owners and community initiatives social enterprises appealing to human nature. This sounds like a Obama kind of community organization and look, it go him elected President of U.S.A

Posted by: klausdmk | September 17, 2009 4:08 PM | Report abuse

It happens all the time chuckled.

Last I looked, Diaper Dan Vitter is still around.

By the logic displayed on this page, many in this country support a party that sanctions prostitution, adultery and diaper wearing by adults.

Posted by: edlharris | September 17, 2009 4:09 PM | Report abuse

I can't help but get such a kick out of al you soooo verrrry concerned citizenz who say (threateningly) how interested you are to know which representatives voted in favor of continuing to provide funding. If you're truly so concerned - then get off your metaphorical a**es, and use the internet (to which you had access to post your comment in the first place) and go to the House of Representatives' website and look up the vote!! My God! do you need to have every thought and idea handed to you on a silver platter? Oh, of course you do! That way you don't need to waste any mental energy thinking for yourselves.

Posted by: prospero3 | September 17, 2009 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Those who want to continue funding for ACORN were all Democrats:
Baldwin
Becerra
Brady (PA)
Brown, Corrine
Butterfield
Capuano
Carson (IN)
Castor (FL)
Cleaver
Clyburn
Crowley
Cummings
Davis (IL)
DeGette
Delahunt
Doyle
Edwards (MD)
Ellison
Engel
Fattah
Filner
Fudge
Green, Al
Grijalva
Hinchey
Hirono
Holt
Honda
Jackson (IL)
Jackson-Lee (TX)
Johnson, E. B.
Kilpatrick (MI)
Kucinich
Larsen (WA)
Lee (CA)
Lewis (GA)
Lynch
Markey (MA)
McCollum
McDermott
McGovern
Meeks (NY)
Mollohan
Moore (WI)
Moran (VA)
Nadler (NY)
Neal (MA)
Olver
Pallone
Pascrell
Payne
Polis (CO)
Price (NC)
Rahall
Rangel
Roybal-Allard
Rush
Sánchez, Linda T.
Schakowsky
Scott (GA)
Scott (VA)
Serrano
Sherman
Sires
Slaughter
Stark
Thompson (MS)
Towns
Tsongas
Velázquez
Waters
Watson
Waxman
Wexler

Posted by: 45upnorth | September 17, 2009 4:10 PM | Report abuse

I agree with the comments below about defense contractors (lowest of the low) and think that Blackwater, Halliburton, KBR, CACI, and the other scumbag defense contractors should be banned from receiving federal funding. Some of their employees should be in prison for murder, rape, and fraud committed in the name of the US government. No Republicans would go for that because by their logic, murder, rape, and fraud in the name of our government, funded with their tax dollars, is just fine. Republican “they hate us for our freedom” idiots.

Posted by: miknugget | September 17, 2009 4:10 PM | Report abuse

I'm not in disagreement with Congress' act to eleiminate funding for ACORN, but to me, the republicans are a bunch of hypocrits.

What about defunding Blackwater (or "Z" something or other as it prefers to be called now) and Halliburton for breaking and abusing U.S. laws? How many republicans dio you think would support that?

Probably none.

Posted by: twilson66
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As I posted earlier on this thread...did democrats, since 2006, ever TRY to defund Blackwater? No, because they'd have had to vote NO on war supplementals, and that was not a politically smart thing for them to do...they put politics over principles. For a change, Republicans are putting principles over politics, and it's about time.

Posted by: boosterprez | September 17, 2009 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Say.....whatever happened to that NINE BILLION DOLLARS missing in Iraq??? Was that even investigated? Was there ever any outrage?

Did ACORN steal it?

How I wish the Dems had a spine.

Posted by: robin5956 | September 17, 2009 4:11 PM | Report abuse

And by going here, you can see an organization that supports public obscenity and bestiality.

http://wonkette.com/411138/how-wasted-could-this-local-fox-anchor-have-been


Posted by: edlharris | September 17, 2009 4:11 PM | Report abuse

I'm with J.W. Meritt -- which state reps did vote to continue funding to ACORN?

Posted by: wmpowellfan | September 17, 2009 4:11 PM | Report abuse

The notion of the political Right posturing as the guardians of morality is about as twisted and hypocritical as it gets...what a shameless bunch of slimeballs

Posted by: Jerryvov | September 17, 2009 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Let's call it what it is. Right wing hatred (dominantly white) of a group that is generally trying to bring balance to the poor (dominantly minorities) in this country. It sure seems a lot of conservatives don't think for themselves and believe the venom that Fox spews; all comments that I have read about ACORN from conservatives for the past year have been angry and hateful. Sorry whitey, the minority populations are increasing and we whites will steadily lose power over time. Our time of absolute dominance is ending and we are being forced to share the wealth and power. Get over it. It has happened before and it will happen again.

I am not saying ACORN is blameless. If there were crimes committed, then prosecute, convict and imprison. The evidence, however, is not black and white. The two perpetrators of these laughable videos are not the type of people who can be trusted to do things ethically. If they have nothing to hide, then they should not hide behind Fox News. Evidently, they will not go on the other bloviating cable networks. That is suspicious. If they did not doctor the videos in any way, make those raw videos available for forensic review by a nonpartisan group. The fact that they are unwilling to do so is also suspicious. Let's not automatically convict ACORN when the evidence is not open to review.

For that matter, I would expect that every organization has some bad employees. Did these two conservative activists show all of the videos they took? Did 3 out of 100 visits lead to malfeasance? Or was it 3 out of 3? Either way it makes a difference.

Finally, we need to realize that ACORN is a community organization that is not filled with professional counselors. They hire community members and provide training as best they can. These community members have variable levels of education, wisdom and experience. When I was young and naive and lived in the ghetto, I might have been inclined to help out the pros in my neighborhood in such a counseling situation rather than to send them packing. After all, the pros in my ghetto were neighbors. Similarly, I knew the drug dealers used the coin laundry down the street to launder their drug money but I still washed my clothes there. I would be willing to allow ACORN some mistakes as long as they take proper efforts to fix those mistakes just as I was willing to let Haliburton/KBR continue to work in Iraq, even in light of their serious problems.

Posted by: mraymond10 | September 17, 2009 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Hey people... they aren't defunded yet. It is only a bill in process. Keep your eye on the ball as it bounces along. After a few days or weeks, the media hype will die down, and they are bound to changed the resoluion. Right now both the Senate and the House are using this as a piblicity stunt and patting themselves on the back. How do you think the 8.5 Billion provision got into the stimulus package in the first place. If you recall there was an amendmant to defund it then too, but in the dark of the night, the amendment was voted down. Don't give these guys to much credit. They are like remorseful addicts that keep returning to their drug (spending).

Posted by: EvreeMan |
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Good point, EvreeMan!

Posted by: wmpowellfan | September 17, 2009 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Great, let's defund a program that has helped millions of people because of a couple of anecdotes. Anecdotes, which, by the way, aren't even of criminal wrongdoing, but merely of arguably poor judgment. Anecdotes which the right-wing film-maker had to unsuccessfully bait ACORN workers dozens of times before a few took the bait.

But yeah, let's dump the whole program for PR reasons. Sure. Never mind the collateral damage.

Posted by: DupontJay | September 17, 2009 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Everything about the democrat party is a corrupt lie..

Posted by: SMWE357 | September 17, 2009 4:18 PM | Report abuse

FANTASTIC NEWS!

Let the criminal investigations beging!

And let them go as high up as they need, just as the Democrats have been saying since January!

Posted by: AnAmericanFirst | September 17, 2009 4:18 PM | Report abuse

LOL, just tried to make a post, and got a censoring message from WaPo...apparently they don't believe in free speech, as my post had zero swear words in it, but they chose to "hold it" anyway....yikes, must be BIG BROTHER....

Posted by: boosterprez | September 17, 2009 4:24 PM | Report abuse

This is a hasty "throw the baby out with the bathwater" considering ACORN does alot of beneficial work with low income homebuyers.

Posted by: AJohn1 | September 17, 2009 4:24 PM | Report abuse

So which Democrats are in favor of tax evasion and child slavery through prostitution?

I bet San Fran Nan was one of them.

Posted by: bandmom22 | September 17, 2009 4:26 PM | Report abuse

What!

And take away the Huckabees tattered old ACORN card?

Posted by: coloradodog | September 17, 2009 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Some of you folks in this discussion should be embarrassed by the way you are labeling people. It is childish to call folks on the other side of your argument freaks or nuts. You consider your side of the argument to be superior but in reality are proving to be nothing more than immature and a disgrace to your side of the aisle. You are a huge part of the problem in this country. If you can't be civilized in your discussion of a topic then do us all a favor and leave.

Posted by: JDR1970 | September 17, 2009 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Peejay asks:
"What does Blackwater have to do with this issue?"

Answer: The liberals have receive a black eye. The general reaction, in the face of such embarassment, is to look back and dig up some old dirt associated with the opposition, thereby illustrating that their credibilty should, rightfully, remain in tact.

It should be noted that this is synonymous with not being able to defend, or distance themselves, from the perpitrators.

Of course, any decent human being (party affiliation being of no indication to true character) would simply indicate that the offending organization was faulty and that trust had most certainly been misplaced.

I would submit to the world: Question authority, especially that of your own affiliations.

Posted by: primegrop | September 17, 2009 4:31 PM | Report abuse

There must be some pretty sticky keyboards in the basements of some rightwingnut residences right about now.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | September 17, 2009 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Maybe the good news about this is all the right wingnuts will claim victory and stop making all the outrageous claims about the group. I know. Wishful thinking.

Posted by: tfspa | September 17, 2009 4:35 PM | Report abuse

YES!!! This is great news. The problem with such organizations is they cater to race on the pretense of fairness and with total disregard for the law (and anything fair, for that matter).

Let this private organization get its funds from private donors.

Posted by: RealTexan1 | September 17, 2009 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Blackwater is still on the government payroll because it is a for-profit corporation with which the government took out a legally binding contract. While I agree that they should be cut off too, that is the difference here. ACORN is a non-profit organization that relies on grants from the government.

This means that Blackwater must perform a service for its money, the way a construction company hired by the government would have to build something in order to get paid.

ACORN, however, does not have (or did not have ) to do anything in return for the money it gets, other than continue with their own agenda.

Posted by: DrISE | September 17, 2009 4:40 PM | Report abuse

This won't kill the snake, although it is a start. ACORN can still receive federal monies laundered through other 501c(3) organizations, and probably will.

It's internal investigation will be a whitewash, of course, and some sacrificial heads will roll. But it will be back in business, bigger and better than ever, in less than 12 months.

I've been around Washington far too long to believe otherwise.

BTW, did any African American Congresspersons in either House or Senate vote to defund this group? Just curious.

Posted by: Curmudgeon10 | September 17, 2009 4:43 PM | Report abuse

So in this case, the people who call republicans the "Party of No" are right. They said 'NO' to ACORN.

Posted by: ahashburn | September 17, 2009 4:44 PM | Report abuse

It is a joke that people expect poor people to be more moral than rich people.
Prostitution in Washington is taxpayer financed. There is a reason women working for Corporations in Washington are young and attractive.
I say let's investigate ACORN, and at the same time investigate the billions that disappeared during the Bush years.
One thing you can say about China is they can sit back knowing America owes them billions for the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq,, they know they have billions of people to buy the products China produces.
America??? well we just pay CEO's million dollar paychecks for playing golf.

Posted by: JillCalifornia | September 17, 2009 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Interesting that the reporter, Mr. Bacon, mentioned only one of the five (so far) undercover videos that have been released. By mentioning only ONE undercover video Mr. Bacon seems to be making the case that the GOP is making a mountain out of a molehill. But maybe he doesn't know about the others! If not, he'd be in good company. Charlie Gibson, who, rumor has it, is in the "news" business as an evening news anchor at ABC, admitted in a radio interview earlier this week that he didn't know anything AT ALL about these undercover videos. Seems the MSM - WaPo included - is trying its best NOT to cover this story or to minimize the significance of the findings. How's that working out for ya? It's not so easy any more to suppress inconvenient news, is it Mr. Bacon?

Posted by: mastermind238 | September 17, 2009 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Why exactly did the Obama/Biden campaign pay ACORN more than $800,000 for "staging and lighting"? When will this expenditure be investigated?

Posted by: JohnRobertsFreeingTibet | September 17, 2009 4:46 PM | Report abuse

"And yet in several locations, the ACORN employees told these individuals to leave and filed police reports. Have they been showing those videos as well?"

Posted by: smc91

Funny you say that, the ACORN spokeswoman, Bertha Lewis I think, said last week that they were turned away from offices in New York and San Diego among a few others. And then videos were released from ... New York and San Diego. Stop trying to defend the indefensible. This is not just a few bad apples. The organization is corrupt to the core, and views criminal activity as a means to an end.

Posted by: Peejay | September 17, 2009 4:46 PM | Report abuse

This VOTE has to be the FIRST time these "HACKS" have ever voted the RIGHT way in a long time. I was shocked that Patches Kennedy
did not vote. His uncle would have been upset. Was patches sick or drugged out.

Posted by: otisplumber | September 17, 2009 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Congress did not fund Blackwater, the Pentagon did. Therefore, Congress could only defund Blackwater by defunding the Pentagon.

Posted by: ahashburn | September 17, 2009 4:50 PM | Report abuse

SO LONG ACORN!!!!!!

Now the question is, will this event make the National Liberal News?

Posted by: AlbyVA | September 17, 2009 4:51 PM | Report abuse

ACORN is crazy enough to go after Obama in some way after Obama lack of trying to stop congress.

His Chicago mobsters buddies will be hot and heavy after him...The hunter becomes the hunted.

Posted by: billisnice | September 17, 2009 4:53 PM | Report abuse

1. Obama worked as an attorney for ACORN in Chicago

2. Obama worked as a “leadership trainer” for ACORN’s community organizing

3. Obama said ACORN and its friends will shape his presidential agenda

Posted by: bingham60 | September 17, 2009 4:56 PM | Report abuse

Dear House of Representatives:
Thank you for being so easily distracted. Next we're going to asking for something involving gay marriage, abortion, or flag burning, just to keep you busy while we work to defeat health care reform.
Sincerely,
The GOP

Posted by: wilderfield1 | September 17, 2009 4:57 PM | Report abuse

The "Clean" Coal lobby forged letters under names of the American Legion and others to get hundreds of billion$ from Congress. Where's the conservative outrage? ACORN is chump change. Coal is real money.

Shows the GOP's real priorities.

Posted by: Garak | September 17, 2009 4:57 PM | Report abuse

To me even more important than the funding that has been thrown at this organization is assurances that they will NOT be involved in conducting the United States Census. It's bad enough they can still register "voters".

Posted by: menopausequeen | September 17, 2009 5:02 PM | Report abuse

It is about time. This group is a disgrace and a joke.

Posted by: dbeins | September 17, 2009 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Rationalization is the game of the day for the PROGLIBS. Why not de-fund Blackwater? Ask our Great and Glorious Leader. He is continuing to work with the PROGLIB straw man pariah.

Posted by: Rjames2 | September 17, 2009 5:10 PM | Report abuse

So Gleen Beck and his 4.5-million viewers who are right-wing nutcases like me, and who just happen to believe in the Constitution and America, won a small victory. Now, if we could get the media to take on investigating the money that went into this corrupt agency's hands and where it was spent, that might really be worth reading/viewing. Come on Fourth Estate, Glenn Beck can't do it by himself. Quit reading the President's and Congresses' spin sheets and get off your duffs and start practicing your trade. Investigate and report. That's your job!

Posted by: jimblair1 | September 17, 2009 5:12 PM | Report abuse

The REAL OUTRAGE is not ACORN.

The OUTRAGE is the idea of more eligible voters voting.

The modern bible of the current Republican Party, ironically, is A Southern History of the War [Civil War].

Sen Voinovich was on to something -- the
Republican Party is a carcass, inhabited by the old dixiecrat cockroach.

Posted by: Marcaurelius | September 17, 2009 5:14 PM | Report abuse

"Apparently if you're a defense contractor, you can do a whole lot worse and even commit outright crimes and not get defunded." Yeah, according to the many WaPo articles, you can't go wrong if you are a friend of Murtha (DEM from PA), even if you started your career as a drug runner.

Posted by: AT_MD | September 17, 2009 5:15 PM | Report abuse

==JIMBLAIR :So Gleen Beck and his 4.5-
== million viewers who are right-wing
== nutcases like me ...

That is right.

Posted by: Marcaurelius | September 17, 2009 5:16 PM | Report abuse

>> What does Blackwater have to do with this issue? .... Peejay

Rightwingers prefer to fund murderers.

Posted by: Marcaurelius | September 17, 2009 5:17 PM | Report abuse

Given that, the video was secretly filmed by 2 conservatives acting like a pimp and prostitute, why do we believe an edited video released by them? If liberals and democrats continue to chase the stick thrown by lying, political subversives, the political climate can only turn more chilling, frightening really.

Posted by: mjkellyview | September 17, 2009 5:20 PM | Report abuse

== ==JIMBLAIR :So Gleen Beck and his 4.5-
== million viewers

Poor reading comprehension;
poor impulse control.

Johnny Cash made millions singing about
Glen Beck and his cohorts.

Posted by: Marcaurelius | September 17, 2009 5:20 PM | Report abuse

Watching the Dems defend ACORN, like they defended Rev Wright, or Chavez, or Ahmedinajad, or tax cheats and Van Jones of this administration is making the extreme right a prettier mirror image of the left.

Posted by: NoWeCant | September 17, 2009 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Wouldn't it be interesting to see how the members of the Black Caucus voted? As if we didn't already know.

Posted by: rwalsh76 | September 17, 2009 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Republicans hate black and low income people. This is not news. It's a little depressing that there are so few Democrats with backbones though.

Posted by: unpluggedboodah | September 17, 2009 5:25 PM | Report abuse

WOW, It looks like the LIB T@RDS here this morning assuring us all that this wouldn't happen WE'RE WRONG. LOL To bad, so sad, Bye bye. AGONE!!!!!

Posted by: askgees | September 17, 2009 5:27 PM | Report abuse

How can you say this Mr Whoeverwrote this? "Continuing the GOP's aggressive effort against the community organizing group ACORN." Your statement is so ridiculous as to defy all logic and it is possible that you had a double lobotomy. The GOP is not being aggressive; it is acting responsibly because we would not expect the major media to say anything about Acorn that is negative. I mean after all Obama worked there once. Acorn is not in to community organizing. It is into criminal and immoral acts; but, liberals do not care because where a vote comes from or how it is obtained is immaterial. Acorn is a criminal enterprise and if and when the IRS looks into its organizational structure it will find a den of thieves and crooks. Does Mr Rangel advise Acorn on IRS matters and taxes>

Posted by: Mindboggle | September 17, 2009 5:28 PM | Report abuse

replying to unpluggedboodah
Republicans hate black and low income people. This is not news. It's a little depressing that there are so few Democrats with backbones though.
I disagree. This is not a black versus white issue. This is an AMERICAN issue. Congress is totally out of control and has been for several decades - Republican AND Democrat. Everybody knows that. Whether you are black, white, Democrat or Republican makes no difference. Congress has pushed it's constituency to the limits. There is a revolution afoot to take back our country. Congressional representatives need to recognize this and clean up their institution. I hear lots of people say, "When I vote, if you are in, I'm voting you out!" That tells it all.

Posted by: jimblair1 | September 17, 2009 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Ridiculous. ACORN has done great work in my area. Just because one isolated incident is caught on cam does not mean that is happening at every ACORN office. Obama wimped out to the Reich Wing Wackos. I've lost faith in him.

Posted by: muslit | September 17, 2009 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Ending funding for ACORN is an outrage and seriously stupid. What are any of the bashers or sting people doing for the homeless? If there are individuals who need to remove, then do it.

People who have not been defunded: war criminals, military contractors, war profiteers, Wall Street criminals, church programs that sexually abuse children, insurance companies. Rev. Bookburn - Radio Volta

Posted by: revbookburn | September 17, 2009 5:36 PM | Report abuse

It is about time.
The illegal use of the taxpayers dole went on long enough.
Now to learn that they are also accessory to crimes, isn't suprising.
Tax breaks to a chartity is one thing but funding one is another.

This Congress cannot over see or run anything. Have they brought their new car company before the new board?

Nope.

The Federal Government does not belong in the Private sector or granting our money to a race based charity.

Posted by: dottydo | September 17, 2009 5:37 PM | Report abuse

"Acorn is not in to community organizing. It is into criminal and immoral acts; but, liberals do not care because where a vote comes from or how it is obtained is immaterial." Mindboggle, you do boggle the mind. Acorn is one of a vast field of players that breaks the rules. Defense contractors, one in particular, tied to Cheney comes to mind. The security contractors are another group and guess what, the GOP hasn't raised objection one about how they've plundered taxpayer assets. So while I was thinking a couple weeks ago that the DOJ should leave the CIA issues lay, I think now, in fairness, the DOJ can go after whoever on violations of the law and if a few wing nuts get their you know what caught in the wringer, so be it.

Posted by: rias2500 | September 17, 2009 5:38 PM | Report abuse

Thank You FOX News and special thanks to Mr. Glenn Beck

Chevy

Posted by: MrPotatoHead98 | September 17, 2009 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Wow. Bold, smart move by the House. ACORN started out as a good idea, but as these things go, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. The lure of mischief is too much for some to pass up, especially when they're already riding a gravy train. If someone is a citizen of this country, they have a responsibility to get themselves registered. Let's stop paying people to "find" prospective voters.

Posted by: Marrigan | September 17, 2009 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Well fine. Please de-fund Blackwater, Halliburton, and any other corporation that has ever had an employee break the law. Please, do this now. Let's see who is left working. In fact, let's not stop their. Let's ban states from having representation if their representatives have ever committed any crimes. Where was that toilet, toe-tapping senator from?????

Posted by: rightsaid | September 17, 2009 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Thank God The REPUBLICANS are looking out for the pretty lady. AMERICA!!

Chevy The Worlds foremost educated Redneck

Posted by: MrPotatoHead98 | September 17, 2009 5:44 PM | Report abuse

I have news for Barack O'ACORN, and his merry band of Marxist misfits.

You are now on, the road to perdition. Enjoy the ride.

Posted by: dashriprock | September 17, 2009 5:45 PM | Report abuse

Whatever beating Democratic party may get in 2010, will be well deserved. This Democratic party dominated congress must be the most gutless ever witnessed in congressional history.

Hundreds of billions of dollars in unnecessary military spending and defense systems cost overruns, Boeing attempts to bilk American taxpayers out of 40 billion dollars in tanker lease, tax holidays for their cooperate buddies; politicization of justice department, gutting consumer and labor protection, democracy sold to the highest bidder; and Republican would have us believe ACORN's community empowerment work is grave threat to democracy and the few millions received for poverty relief are budget busters.

I am not one to cut-off my nose to spite face, but I'm finished spending money to feed a dead horse. As of this day my contributions to Democratic candidates and causes, have come to an end.

Posted by: JohnDebba | September 17, 2009 5:47 PM | Report abuse

VICTORY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Republicans 1
Democrats 0


Posted by: AlbyVA | September 17, 2009 5:47 PM | Report abuse

I'd like to hope mine wasn't a total coward to the wacko right-wing psycho movement, but I doubt it...
******************************************
So you want your Representative to continue to support a group that had no problem bringing underage girls into the country as prostitutes?

Interesting...

Posted by: websterr1 | September 17, 2009 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Those who voted against the bill

Baldwin
Becerra
Brady (PA)
Brown, Corrine
Butterfield
Capuano
Carson (IN)
Castor (FL)
Cleaver
Clyburn
Crowley
Cummings
Davis (IL)
DeGette
Delahunt
Doyle
Edwards (MD)
Ellison
Engel
Fattah
Filner
Fudge
Green, Al
Grijalva
Hinchey
Hirono
Holt
Honda
Jackson (IL)
Jackson-Lee (TX)
Johnson, E. B.
Kilpatrick (MI)
Kucinich
Larsen (WA)
Lee (CA)
Lewis (GA)
Lynch
Markey (MA)
McCollum
McDermott
McGovern
Meeks (NY)
Mollohan
Moore (WI)
Moran (VA)
Nadler (NY)
Neal (MA)
Olver
Pallone
Pascrell
Payne
Polis (CO)
Price (NC)
Rahall
Rangel
Roybal-Allard
Rush
Sánchez, Linda T.
Schakowsky
Scott (GA)
Scott (VA)
Serrano
Sherman
Sires
Slaughter
Stark
Thompson (MS)
Towns
Tsongas
Velázquez
Waters
Watson
Waxman
Wexler
Woolsey

Posted by: askgees | September 17, 2009 5:49 PM | Report abuse

"Well fine. Please de-fund Blackwater, Halliburton" Posted by D i c k head

Yo Pec kerhead - Blackwater and Halliburton are corportions, there's nothing to De-Fund you idiot. They are not tax exempt organizations like ACORN.

This is what I mean about Democrats, they're such idiots.

Posted by: MrPotatoHead98 | September 17, 2009 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Thank God The REPUBLICANS are looking out for the pretty lady. AMERICA!!

Chevy The Worlds foremost educated Redneck

Posted by: MrPotatoHead98 | September 17, 2009 5:44 PM | Report abuse


As compared to Mrpotatohead98 the DEM door mat. Wake up T@RD.

Posted by: askgees | September 17, 2009 5:51 PM | Report abuse

HANG THESE ......
Posted by: dumnigga
--


Is that you Uncle Ruckus?

Posted by: AlbyVA | September 17, 2009 5:51 PM | Report abuse

We now have 75 Democrats that have voted to send tax money from American taxpayers to an organization that has been found in 5 different cities across the country willing to assist illegal human smuggling of illegals into America, illegal houses of prostitution, instructing how to avoid paying city, state and federal income taxes, using underage girls in sexual trades and it appears for voting to continue this they are part of the problem in America.
In addition to these serious charges we have the same organization under federal investigation for voter fraud, 11 were arrested in Florida and one has turned into a witness for the FBI in Nevada.
So my question is when will President Obama sign the papers for the defunding, when will he instruct the Attorney General to conduct a RICO investigation into this company and all of it's associate companies like SEIU who is on tape beating up a man at a Town Hall? Mr. President the American public is waiting.

Posted by: GeneGuffey | September 17, 2009 5:53 PM | Report abuse

Look like 75 seats for the R's LOL Has anyone ever seen a party implode in such a brief period of time. LOL

Obama is awful quite today?

Posted by: askgees | September 17, 2009 5:54 PM | Report abuse

Well fine. Please de-fund Blackwater, Halliburton, posted by an idiot.


LOL this moron doesn't realize the difference between hallibuton and Acorn.

THe govenment employs Hallibuton idiot and if they don't need them they don't contract with them. Acorn on the other hand is a phony organization the government pays to give ole Buckwheat a job

Chevy

Posted by: MrPotatoHead98 | September 17, 2009 5:57 PM | Report abuse

Congress can move quick like a bunny rabbit when defunding what they perceive is a corrupt, minority-run community services organization. See black women advise two actors playing small business people (a women who sells her sexual favors and her agent) how to repackage their business so it doesn't seem to be illegal. This was hit job by a right-wing Karl Rove wannabe. Still, defunding is probably called for. Defunding health insurance companies however causes great grief in Congress. They've been stealing the public blind for 30 years or more. But they are white men, not black women. Lots of push back. Preserve health insurance companies (who add NO value) by ALL means.

Posted by: BlueTwo1 | September 17, 2009 6:00 PM | Report abuse

Where are republicons standing on getting the money back from KBR that was over-paid for fuel in Iraq? Or the hundreds of millions to KBR for providing water, which they pocketed and gave our soldiers tainted water in Iraq? And how about the elctrical work they did incorrectly and actually killed US service personell?

The videos are what is typically called entrapment. Conservatives hate Acorn because it is an easy target, but mostly they hate it because it helps poor people and especially especially because it helps brown people. This was a fux news example of why the big megaphone needs to be ignored and fair rules in broadcasting need to be returned.

Posted by: John1263 | September 17, 2009 6:03 PM | Report abuse

@snowy2 - There are two houses of Congress, the Senate and the House. This article is about the House. You've listed Senators, not Representatives.

@Mindboggle - It is apparent that the GOP is doing its utmost to sack the quarterback (i.e. Obama); among its tactics are its "aggressive effort against the community organizing group ACORN." The so-called 'MSM' is not invested in sacking the quarterback, so does not see the need to interpret transgressions made by employees of ACORN as the organization's mission, as in: "Acorn is not in to community organizing. It is into criminal and immoral acts."

@dottydo: You call ACORN a "race based charity." I thought ACORN was about poverty and homelessness.

Posted by: whoputsamericafirst | September 17, 2009 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Wow. A couple of young filmmakers did what WaPo and the liberal MSM should have been doing for years -- expose this corrupt, taxpayer-funded organization. But they were afraid of offending radical liberals and Candidate Obama, whose connection to ACORN is far from tenuous.

Way to GO guys and FOX NEWS. So what say you libs now -- FOX is still irrelevant, in your view?

Posted by: Darlene_Jr | September 17, 2009 6:10 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if obama is upset.......

Posted by: UpAndOver | September 17, 2009 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Marylanders: You might want to know that Donna Edwards and Elijah Cummins were the only two Maryland U.S. Representives to vote in support of ACORN. Something to keep in the back of your mind for future elections!

Posted by: jatinmd1 | September 17, 2009 6:11 PM | Report abuse

And WaPo and ACORN apologists...it's not just conservatives and Republicans now. This could not have passed without DEM support.

Posted by: Darlene_Jr | September 17, 2009 6:12 PM | Report abuse

the paranoid right has "won" again.. This organization did more good then bad... Oh my goodness .. why..did the Dems allow this to go down like this..they are so afraid of anything interfering with the passage of the healthcare bill that they would fire their mommas if the Rethugs brought attention to some minor infraction committed by one of them.. ACORN may have had a few bad apples..but..the good clearly should have outweighed the bad..

Posted by: sabrina2 | September 17, 2009 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Too bad there aren't any Democrats in the House these days.

Massa Boehner says, "Jump!" and his followers bend over and hand him the Vasoline intensive care.

Posted by: squeakycat | September 17, 2009 6:16 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if the President will sign it? He supports this criminal orginization.

Posted by: markandbeth92 | September 17, 2009 6:17 PM | Report abuse

MrPotatoHead93 wrote: Well fine. Please de-fund Blackwater, Halliburton, posted by an idiot.


LOL this moron doesn't realize the difference between hallibuton and Acorn.

THe govenment employs Hallibuton idiot and if they don't need them they don't contract with them. Acorn on the other hand is a phony organization the government pays to give ole Buckwheat a job
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Federal Money is Federal Money I don't care what the options are.. and your inference to "Buckwheat" really puts your opposition to Acorn in perspective..

Posted by: sabrina2 | September 17, 2009 6:18 PM | Report abuse

I happen to think that the primary mission of ACORN (low-income housing help) is a good one, and I don't have a problem with registration drives - but it's quite clear from things seen over the last few years that they are inept at maintaining control over their employees. They don't deserve to receive government funds.

Posted by: iamweaver | September 17, 2009 6:20 PM | Report abuse

Damn straight. Then let's defund every organization or contractor whose employees ever did anything illegal or ill-advised.

Posted by: raschumacher | September 17, 2009 6:23 PM | Report abuse


Too Little, Too Late!

All the info on ACORN has been out there for years. It is just too bad that propaganda rags like the WaPo didn't print anything about it until forced. That's not unusual, their Democrat masters didn't want such information out there. The Dems were in bed with ACORN. It is their organization.

Did Obamma teach ACORN to do such things and use such tactics when he was their lawyer?

Posted by: tharper1 | September 17, 2009 6:36 PM | Report abuse

I stand corrected. San Fran Nan did not overtly support child sex slavery and tax evasion. she also didn't vote to defund Acorn. She also didn't vote present and she was not listed as not voting.

San Fran Nan has just disappeared from this vote. Would that she would just disappear altogether.

Posted by: bandmom22 | September 17, 2009 6:37 PM | Report abuse

Why not give Habitat for Humanity $8-billion? They have been around for a long time, have a squeaky clean record, utilize volunteer versus hired, corrupt employees and can build a house for pennies on the dollar? Oh, I know. Funding Habitat wouyld not do anything to sway elections. How stupid of me. I thought the objective was to help provide housing for the destitute. Pouring $100-million annually into a working program would never accomplish that. We have to move that "chump change" plus $800-million in unspent campaign war-chest to those who helped BUY the election. Personally, I will not be happy until the DOJ brings RICO charges against the heirarchy of ACORN and the IRS gets every misused dollar back for the Amrerican taxpayer. There is too much smoke and the flames of American voters are arising.

Posted by: jimblair1 | September 17, 2009 6:43 PM | Report abuse

ACORN's biggest crime, and only significant one of course, is that they help poor people. Republicans - especially the pseudochristian conservatives who despise everything Jesus stood for - hate that.

Even Jesus tried to help prostitutes get themselves to a better life.

Conservatives are the lowest form of scum in our society. I hate to be blunt, but they have made their bed.

Posted by: B2O2 | September 17, 2009 6:43 PM | Report abuse

From the people of China we thank you for educating our children. We thank you for using torture as a government tool. We thank you for stealing billions from the proletariat.
Is there anything as daft as American CEO's pretending China is just another country that does not pay million dollar paychecks to the daft American CEO's??
Are Americans so daft that they ignore Histroy.
Are you fools unaware that China is a tool of government?.

Posted by: JillCalifornia | September 17, 2009 6:43 PM | Report abuse

Three cheers for the "united republican effort" to continue saying NO to everything. Too bad this is only a minor "victory". What other NOs can they get united to say to again?

Posted by: steviana | September 17, 2009 6:48 PM | Report abuse

The difference between Haliburton and ACORN is that ACORN finds fictious voters to sway elections. Haliburn doesn't.

Posted by: ssmorehouse | September 17, 2009 6:49 PM | Report abuse

Given that Congressman Jim Moran, who is a crook in his own right, voted to continue ACORN funding, an effort should be organized to recall him from office.

Posted by: ashafer_usa | September 17, 2009 6:54 PM | Report abuse

Good night and Good bye ACORN.. when will this story be gone...

Posted by: robinhood2 | September 17, 2009 6:56 PM | Report abuse

It's probably time ACORN closed up shop and those advocates who wish to continue to work to address social ills to form another new low-income organization with more consistent integrity and learn from the mistakes of the past.

Posted by: TabLUnoLCSWfromUtah | September 17, 2009 6:59 PM | Report abuse

Soooo Now what will we complain about???

Posted by: knjincvc | September 17, 2009 7:02 PM | Report abuse

The 75 Democrat Child Sex Slave Enthusiasts that voted to continue funding ACORN will get a lot of publicity next year in all the ads with them and the ACORN tapes.

Posted by: robtr | September 17, 2009 7:02 PM | Report abuse

House moved fast as lightning on ACORN with no investigations. Usually moves slower than molasses in January. Very suspicious. Looks like the Dems are kowtowing to the right-wing nutsos.

What about all those greedy and irresponsible bankers and brokers who brought the USA to it its knees?

House mum on that.

Posted by: FedUp1 | September 17, 2009 7:06 PM | Report abuse

Now the real question here is: How long can we keep the money away from them? They will be back next month, with their 75 "buddies" behind them, looking for reinstatement, swearing that they have tightened everything up and should go back on the payroll.

But their problems are systemic, like Frank Raines and Fannie Mae.

They should go away so we do not have this distraction while the dems try to ram healthcare reform down our throats.

Posted by: jimbob3 | September 17, 2009 7:13 PM | Report abuse

Given how instrumental ACORN was in tipping the election for Al Franken, does that mean the we can now consider this creppy SOB illegitimate. If he had any decency whatsoever, he would resign from the Senate NOW!!!

Posted by: greg3 | September 17, 2009 7:16 PM | Report abuse

With ACORN deservedly getting killed, it's time to move on to other busines.

What about Rangel?

Shouldn't THE GUY who's the CHAIRMAN of the Ways and Means committee be ethical and above reproach? Sure doesn't seem to bother Nancy, but for law abiding citizens, he is the ULTIMATE Hypocrit.

At minimum Rangel should be removed from his chairmanship where he can demand payoffs to get action...

Posted by: grcac | September 17, 2009 7:17 PM | Report abuse

Another cave-in by the guless wonders in congress. Of course ACORN isn't perfect. But this is a FOX/rightwing setup scam that needs to really be exposed

Posted by: taid | September 17, 2009 7:24 PM | Report abuse

In typical liberal moronic fashion, the loonies have not said anything here in defense of ACORN,because it IS indefensible, but instead go off they their attack dog tangents about everything else that is totally irrelevant to the discussion. If it were up to some of these clowns, they would sell tickets to the cathouse full of illegal minors, and give the proceeds to the election campaigns of their favorite corrupt Demoncrat! Liberalism is a sickness that needs to be treated in a sanitarium, if it can be treated at all! It could be that the only solution is the establishment of liberalism colonies on deserted islands like the leper colonies of the past! How about a head count- Van Jones, ACORN, the NEA spokesman, the White House web site for turning in your neighbor, the public option and more to come! Can't wait for the rest of the videos!! LOL!!!!

Posted by: yankee11 | September 17, 2009 7:32 PM | Report abuse

What this is, is a victory for Republican demonization efforts.

The mistake made by a few ACORN employees hardly justifies pulling the plug on the decades of community service by thousands of others. But an orchestrated campaign of attacks by wingnuts created an environment where a single stumble could be fatal.

Naturally, expect the funding of Blackwater, Haliburton, and other companies to continue unabated despite the terrible crimes they're guilty of. But then, they don't provide assistance to low-income minorities, which is ACORNs true sin in Republican eyes.

Posted by: Brix | September 17, 2009 7:38 PM | Report abuse

By the way, we right wing, Glenn Beck lovin', mob members call what we are doing kicking the trash to the curb and taking our country back! Keep lookin' over your shoulders libs- we're right behind you!!

Posted by: yankee11 | September 17, 2009 7:41 PM | Report abuse

If this were the first and only time ACORN employees had been accused in the media of questionable practices, I think people (and their Representatives) would be a lot more open to the idea of simply getting rid of the "bad apples" and moving forward.

If after a diligent investigation of the organization it can be shown that this behavior was just the rogue actions of a few individuals and not ACORN policy, the organization should be cleared of charges and their status re-instated.

The current problem is that these questions have been raised too many times in recent months and the House membership in this action is an effort to distance themselves from a possibly corrupt organization. Time (and investigation) will tell if they are clean.

This should be viewed as a overdue call to ACORN's leadership to exercise more oversight of the people they employ.

Posted by: EddietheInfidel | September 17, 2009 7:55 PM | Report abuse


Who and where:

Tammy Baldwin, D-Wisc.
Xavier Becerra, D-Calif.
Robert Brady D-Pa.
Corrine Brown, D-Fla.
G.K. Butterfield, D-N.C.
Mike Capuano, D-Mass.
Andre Carson, D-Ind.
Betty Castor, D-Fla.
Emanuel Cleaver, D-Mo.
James Clyburn, D-S.C.
Joseph Crowley, D-N.Y.
Elijah Cummings, D-Md.
Danny Davis, D-Ill.
Diane DeGette, D-Colo.
Bill Delahunt, D-Mass.
Mike Doyle, D-Pa.
Donna Edwards, D-Md.
Keith Ellison, D-Minn.
Eliot Engel, D-N.Y.
Chakka Fattah, D-Pa.
Bob Filner, D-Calif.
Marcia Fudge, D-Ohio
Al Green, D-Tex.
Raul Grijalva, D-Ariz.
Maurice Hinchey, D-N.Y.
Mazie Hirono, D-Hawaii
Rush Holt, D-N.J.
Mike Honda, D-Calif.
Jesse Jackson, Jr. D-Ill.
Sheila Jackson-Lee, D-Tex.
Eddie Bernice Johnson, D-Tex.
Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick, D-Mich.
Dennis Kucinich, D-Ohio
Rick Larsen, D-Wash.
Barbara Lee, D-Calif.
John Lewis, D-Ga.
Stephen Lynch, D-Mass.
Markey, D-Mass.
Betty McCollum, D-Minn.
McDermott, D-Wash.
McGovern, D-Mass.
Gregory Meeks, D-N.Y.
Alan Mollohan, D-W.Va.
Gwen Moore, D-Wisc.
Jim Moran, D-Va.
Jerrold Nadler, D-N.Y.
Richard Neal, D-Mass.
John Olver, D-Mass.
Frank Pallone, D-N.J.
Bill Pascrell, D-N.J.
Donald Payne, D-N.J.
Jared Polis, D-Colo.
David Price, D-N.C.
Nick Rahall, D-W.Va.
Charlie Rangel, D-N.Y.
Lucille Roybal-Allard, D-Calif.
Bobby Rush, D-Ill.
Linda Sánchez, D-Calif.
Jan Schakowsky, D-Ill.
David Scott D-Ga.
Bobby Scott, D-Va.
Jose Serrano, D-N.Y.
Brad Sherman, D-Calif.
Albio Sires, D-N.J.
Louise Slaughter, D-N.Y.
Pete Stark, D-Calif.
Bennie Thompson, D-Miss.
Edolphus Towns, D-N.Y.
Niki Tsongas, D-Mass.
Nydia Velázquez, D-N.Y.
Maxine Waters, D-Calif.
Diane Watson, D-Calif.
Henry Waxman, D-Calif.
Robert Wexler, D-Fla.
Lynn Woolsey, D-Calif.

Posted by: WylieD | September 17, 2009 7:58 PM | Report abuse

Its unfortunate that an organization that was intended to help poor folks get a let up in life has been undermined by a few bad apples.

Posted by: logcabin1836 | September 17, 2009 8:03 PM | Report abuse

There's typically no political advantage in standing behind a group that represents not only minorities but especially the working poor.

I'm not surprised that GOP cowards, hypocrites, and false Christians targeted the organization.

However, I applaud those Representatives who showed some back-bone and stood with working families. In a city where it's more common to turn tricks for the highest bidder -- an art that the GOP has absolutely perfected -- it takes some courage to fight for those groups and peopple who really DON'T have a big voice in DC.

Posted by: JPRS | September 17, 2009 8:19 PM | Report abuse

oh yeah -- the values and morals of congress come screaming thru.

what they will gleefully fund: war-profiteering kbrhalliburtonbechtel who rip off billions in taxpayer dollars; gang rape and hold captive female employees; feed diseased and rotten food to our military; knowingly construct unsafe and hazardous buildings where your shoddy works results in several deaths;

what they will indignantly defund:
a nationwide community organization that organizes low income citizens to vote.

look who they consider the greater threat.

Posted by: mycomment | September 17, 2009 8:23 PM | Report abuse

Think of all the people who need help who won't get it now because of idiots in the organization.

They hired thew lowest common denominator staff, and followed a most rediculous adhearance to ghetto-minded sensibilities, instead of leading people to the difficult mainstream, and look what it got them.

GOOD RIDDANCE!

I hope the honorable individuals from the organization can start anew without those who share a ghetto-minded contempt for the law.

Posted by: onestring | September 17, 2009 8:28 PM | Report abuse

"if he doesn't come to their defense, could this action be construed as a betrayal?"

Politics is the cruelest sport.

Bush threw Scooter Libby in prison because it was politically expedient.

Believe me, Obama won't have any trouble throwing Acorn aside because it's in his best interest.

I'm surprised you think these guys are as passionate about issues as the public.

Posted by: Ombudsman1 | September 17, 2009 8:28 PM | Report abuse

"what they will gleefully fund: war-profiteering kbrhalliburtonbechtel who rip off billions in taxpayer dollars"

Let's fix one thing at a time. I would prefer Obama get rid of Acorn, throw a couple Halliburton execs in jail, and continue go after those individuals and companies who actively work to subvert our country and break the law.

Posted by: Ombudsman1 | September 17, 2009 8:31 PM | Report abuse

What are all the pimps, hos, illegal alien drug smugglers, criminals, etc. going to do without their ACORN?

I cannot believe that anyone is defending these guys. Is it because of all the YouTube of President Obama praising them? Or because President Obama gave them $800,000 -- which he had to amend his campaign reporting because it wasn't exactly legal.

Just think, you get up, go to work every day to fund Obama campaign workers.

Posted by: Cornell1984 | September 17, 2009 8:34 PM | Report abuse

About time. I truly resent any thought of my tax dollars helping to fund this bunch of crooks, liars and pond scum.

Posted by: Lilycat11 | September 17, 2009 8:34 PM | Report abuse

"Bush threw Scooter Libby in prison because it was politically expedient."

Just to correct, Scooter never spent a day in prison. Bush commuted his sentence. He just didn't get the full pardon.

Posted by: Brix | September 17, 2009 8:36 PM | Report abuse

Perry Bacon Jr begins this article by blaming the GOP for the aggressive stance against ACORN, but more Democrats, 173 voted to defund ACORN than the 172 House Republicans.

Posted by: reginacoeli | September 17, 2009 8:48 PM | Report abuse

Why beat up Republicans or, for that matter, Democrats. This is the story of a few political thugs seizing a great cause and using it for their personal benefit. Sound familiar: like Al Quaeda or the Taliban. Don't hate those who saw through this sham organization. It was corrupt. It's leadership used those who believed in its mission. This is not about politics, this is about doing what is right and righting a wrong. Acorn had to go because their mission became stealing tax dolalrs that hard-working Americans earned for their illicit purposes. The lesson is that it was just another earmark of our tax dollars handed out for political favors. That is what we are glad to see happen.

Posted by: jimblair1 | September 17, 2009 8:49 PM | Report abuse

Congress vote to fund ACORN a supply of knee pads.

Posted by: grunk | September 17, 2009 8:58 PM | Report abuse

What a bunch of cowards the House Democrats are! The act caught on tape is indefensible, but is it worthy of a death sentence? Rush Limbaugh survived when it was discovered he was sending out his undocumented maid to buy his illegal drugs, so maybe ACORN could have survived this.

And BTW, Pfizer recently paid $2+ Billion to settle fraud allegations "without admitting any guilt." Why aren't we "defunding" Pfizer (i.e., deny participation in all govt funded health plans)?

Posted by: Cossackathon | September 17, 2009 9:16 PM | Report abuse

For those who wonder why a more thorough exam was not done prior to defunding. Wait a minute! There have been accusations and investigations (with proof) for over two years about this group's unethical(or worse) behavior. Now there is are incidents which have been filmed---recorded for the whole world to see. Still 75 Congressmen want this group to receive federal money, as they advise people in ways to bring in underaged girls for prostitution. I see names on the list that I'm going to help get out of Congress.

Posted by: drzimmern1 | September 17, 2009 9:24 PM | Report abuse

"Why beat up Republicans or, for that matter, Democrats. This is the story of a few political thugs seizing a great cause and using it for their personal benefit."

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When you're talking about "political thugs seizing on a great cause and using it for their personal benefit," I'm reminded of Beck and Limbaugh -- not ACORN.

Limbaugh alone generates more revenue for himself simply by slandering people, than ACORN does in year doing non-profit work focused on low-income working families.

It's one of the bizarre ironies in this country -- helping the poor and the needy makes you a target of the extreme far-right. While serving as a shill for the powerful interests who kill and bankrupt hardworking Americans through neglect gets you several mansions.

That's about as unChristian as you can get.

The realities is: If ACORN had deeper pockets they could have purchased the silence -- or even perhaps the outright endorsement of shills like Beck and Limbaugh -- just as every other big financial player with business before the U.S. Congress does.

The only consolation is that people who are going after groups like ACORN are going to burn in Hell some day. It takes absolutely no courage to pick on marginal groups and easy targets. The radio wingnuts are cowards when it comes to confronting the interest groups who actually fund politics in the nation's capital. That's where the big money is. They're the ones who are mortgaging the future of America's middle class and working families for their own personal benefit.

Posted by: JPRS | September 17, 2009 9:29 PM | Report abuse

The shame is not with ACORN. The shame is in the power of ignorance and hate in America. If the Congress allows this type of pathetic rightwing attack to influence their decisions, then this country is in far worst shape than I imagined. The constitution requires due process of law, which should equate to rational thinking. How many government contractors have done far worst than ACORN without retribution? How can capturing a few low level employees responding to an ignorant stunt capture national headlines? But far more stunning than that, how did the Congress of the United States fall prey so quickly? Could it be racism and fear? For over 20 years now, the rightwing has terrorized this country by injecting fear, ignorance and hate into the national consciousness. The world is watching and America is looking very foolish. Let's end this era of McCarthyism. Let’s replace it with enlightenment and rational thinking. Let’s replace ignorance and hate with the Age of Obama.

Posted by: VIPaar | September 17, 2009 9:32 PM | Report abuse

Gerry Connolly of Fairfax didn't even vote on the issue. Chicken!

Posted by: MeInTheMiddle | September 17, 2009 9:32 PM | Report abuse

Obama, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid have shut the water off in California. Obama can be equated to Robert Mugabe of Zimbabwe when it comes to starving people in their own countries.

FOXNEWS deserves major journalism awards for exposing Obama's policies in California.

2010 can not come fast enough...

I want to thank FOXNEWS also for the upcoming investigative reports they have coming in future months.

Posted by: charko825 | September 17, 2009 9:35 PM | Report abuse

ssmorehouse writes:

The difference between Haliburton and ACORN is that ACORN finds fictious voters to sway elections. Haliburn doesn't.
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You can only sway elections if someone actually votes. The loose cannons that ACORN hired apparently made fictitious voter registrations to get cash - but there's no sign anywhere that the spurious registrations that ACORN didn't report to the Feds were actually used to make fraudulent votes.

Why are so many folks of any persuasion (Dems, GOP, whatever) so bent on making those that disagree with them into "badguys"? I thought we gave that up once we left elementary school :(.

Posted by: iamweaver | September 17, 2009 9:49 PM | Report abuse

Today, TIME Magazine asks if Glenn Beck is bad for America?

I do not know the answer to that question. But I think it is fairly certain that Glenn Beck is very bad for the likes of ACORN and Van Jones.

Since Beck is now the default decision-maker for the national media, I will have to wait until tomorrow to see who is to be the next liberal victim served up on the Fox plate.

Posted by: pgould1 | September 17, 2009 10:11 PM | Report abuse

YAWN....

Posted by: free-donny | September 17, 2009 10:12 PM | Report abuse

Well, they're saying that ACORN is crooked. Are there any HONEST lobbying groups/organizing groups?

Posted by: walkerbert | September 17, 2009 10:17 PM | Report abuse

Obamacorns were an illegally funded criminal voter registration fraud group, that owes the taxpayers all of their money back.
DIng Dong that witch is dead.

Posted by: dottydo | September 17, 2009 10:17 PM | Report abuse

ACORN is only temporarily out of Federal funds. I believe the Democratic National Committee (DNC) will continue to fund ACORN with increasing amounts as we close in on the November 2010 election campaign. The need all the votes they can lie, steal or cheat on to remain in power!

A TEA Party Patriot

Posted by: 312capri | September 17, 2009 10:22 PM | Report abuse

It's really inspiring the way these two kids could take down this corrupt left-wing activist group. Let's not stop there!

Posted by: RVZ555 | September 17, 2009 10:23 PM | Report abuse

This is hilarious. This is the best thing these knuckleheads could hope for? ACORN going down? Ha ha ha. Wingnuts are so pathetic!

Posted by: johng1 | September 17, 2009 10:45 PM | Report abuse

@markandbeth92 - "I wonder if the President will sign it? He supports this criminal orginization."

@UpAndOver - "I wonder if Obama is upset...."

What's the right answer to these questions? Seriously--what response from President Obama would you consider appropriate? Oh, I see, there really is no right answer, since you are determined to be outraged by anything this President does.


Posted by: commonprose | September 17, 2009 10:57 PM | Report abuse

ACORN is a disgrace to its own agenda. Plagued by fraud and scandal long before the recent fiasco came to light, prosecutions need to be undertaken if investigations can document their misuse of funds and other violations of law.

Right-wing organizations should be provided the same scrutiny.

Posted by: PostToastie | September 17, 2009 11:02 PM | Report abuse

You conservatives and other empty headed followers are clueless,

Limbaugh and Beck and Hannity are not journalists and do NOT belong to any journalist organizations and have NO credentials at all, and they themselves make no claim to being one either. If they were then their parent company could be sued for a number of privacy and libelous infractions.

They are "infotainers" nothing more. Any claim they make to being journalist or doing journalistic investigation is a blatant lie.

So don't give them that credit they do not deserve it. They are not after the truth, they are only after "shock and awe" for entertainment purposes.

Get your news from a news organization and from real journalist, don't take infotainment as gospel, you're a fool if you do.

Posted by: g1v3up | September 17, 2009 11:15 PM | Report abuse

This is all fine and good...Now, when will the US Government stop using Blackwater and Haliburton????? If you are not up to date with the problems with these 2 contractors, do a Goggle search...

Posted by: mykaladrian | September 17, 2009 11:24 PM | Report abuse

Those poor folks couldn't recognize a pimp from a prune and a hooker from a basketball.

There's either more here than meets the eye or Acorn needs a lesson in Demimonde 101.

Sad.

Posted by: jato11 | September 17, 2009 11:34 PM | Report abuse

Health care and Acorn....just two more distractions so that the Fuhrer can do his dirty work with little attention. "Comrade Chavez...how are the preparations going." "Father Castro, pretty soon you will have so many Soviet warheads on your island, you will think the 1960's was preschool." "Brother Amadjihad, keep things quiet in Tehran until after the mid-term elections next year, and then you can wipe out Israel." "Hamas, I am sending Peanut-head to you with the Acorn money they think was 'defunded'."

Posted by: EliPeyton | September 17, 2009 11:56 PM | Report abuse

ACORN is a rightwing obsession. Frankly, very few people on the left give a hoot, except that the group seemed to be a counterweight to Republican voter-suppression efforts. The tea party goofballs can have their fun ... while it lasts.

Posted by: CopyKinetics | September 18, 2009 12:09 AM | Report abuse

I guess for polcat and geezjan it's just fine to traffic in child prostitution. You must know -- please tell us that you know -- that your obsessive hatred for Bush and conservatives is blinding you to what you must certainly find repulsive. Whatever Bush, Cheney, Haliburton and Blackwater did that was criminal, let's call it criminal. But please don't use it to excuse ACORN. I know you know better. Shame on ACORN and shame on you for wanting to give ACORN a pass. Is this your idea of a better country, a better world?

Posted by: jpfannen | September 18, 2009 12:31 AM | Report abuse

Glenn "Joe McCarthy" Beck continues his communist and NeoNazi tirades and for some reason, the Right believes everything he says.

http://mediamattersaction.org/smears/all?page=1

Wake up people! You're the ones destroying our country.


Posted by: helloisanyoneoutthere | September 18, 2009 12:51 AM | Report abuse

This bill naming a specific entity to be denied federal funding is apparently an unconstitutional "bill of attainder" under Article I of the Constitution. In UNITED STATES V. LOVETT, 328 U.S. 303 (1946), the Supreme Court struck down as an invalid "bill of attainder" legislation in which Congress named three specific persons who were to be banned from federal funding. Although there are relatively weak arguments to the contrary, the Supreme Court's LOVETT decision would probably require a federal court to invalidate the current bill as unconstitutional. For that reason, President Obama ought to veto the bill if and when it reaches his desk. Incidentally, the Supreme Court in LOVETT makes a very persuasive explanation of which this kind of legislation is unconstitutional: it usurps the powers of the other two branches of Government to define and apply the law in particular cases, while effectively denying the affected persons due process of law in a proceeding where they can attempt to explain and rebut accusations of wrongdoing which Congressional legislation conclusively presumes they have done. That videos of apparent wrongdoing should not be conclusively presumed as proving that wrongdoing, please recall the Rodney King "police brutality" videos and other similar cases where apparently obvious police wrongdoing has been disproved in courts of law. Congress is not a court (except in impeachment proceedings) and has no constitutional authority to act as a court.

Posted by: rlyoung311 | September 18, 2009 1:50 AM | Report abuse

"So you want your Representative to continue to support a group that had no problem bringing underage girls into the country as prostitutes?

Interesting..."

Of course not! I want all taxpayer money to Blackwater/Xe and Halliburton cut off, too.

Posted by: jelperman | September 18, 2009 2:56 AM | Report abuse

Hearings are held on everything else but not on ACORN. The employees involved on the video were quickly fired. Was Halliburton fired? Or Blackwater? They've received and misspent far more tax dollars, beside causing deaths, while ACORN receives only about 10 percent of its budget from federal funds, which should not be withdrawn, and caused no deaths.

Karl Rove targeted this non-profit because they were effective in registering voters who are our least-powerful citizens.

If the shoot-from-the-hip Congress on this issue were serious about making certain many millions of tax dollars go to benefit the low- and moderate-income citizens who need housing, they would investigate HUD. Those ACORN "investigators" should target that agency and "follow the money."

Posted by: BettyW1 | September 18, 2009 10:47 AM | Report abuse

The House is apparently full of cowardly weenies. ACORN does a lot of good for a lot of poor people... to defund the entire organization because a pair of low-level employees were snookered into giving very bad advice is ridiculous.

As geezjan cogently noted, "...if you're a defense contractor, you can do a whole lot worse and even commit outright crimes and not get defunded."

Exactly so. If your organization is intended to help poor people, you get the axe for any misstep... if you are part of the military-industrial complex, however, your malfeasance is intended to further enrich people who are connected, and already wealthy, you get a walk. And maybe a bonus.


Posted by: Iconoblaster | September 18, 2009 12:29 PM | Report abuse

geeeeeeeeeze will you liberals get off of it this group is nothing but a liberal organization dedicated to the take over america for the liberal democratic party. they have committed voter fraud taken millions in tax payers funds (gift from obama and the boys for there election efforts). one of the brothers embezzeled millions in funds. obama was even going to have them do the census (boy wouldn't that be on the up and up.instead of pointing your fingers at other groups lets support the only bipartisianship thing that this congress and senate has done this year.also your boy obama even said in the news he wasn't aware of how much money they were getting from the tax payerso either he doesn't have a clue to what he or his czars are doing or he is in way over his head now you little minded libbies go back to sleep!! (sorry if this was to racist)

Posted by: tswank1 | September 21, 2009 2:30 PM | Report abuse

* EXTRA EXTRA READ ALL ABOUT IT *
The congressional legislation intended to defund ACORN, passed with broad bipartisan support, is written so broadly that it applies to "any organization" that has been charged with breaking federal or state election laws, lobbying disclosure laws, campaign finance laws or filing fraudulent paperwork with any federal or state agency. It also applies to any of the employees, contractors or other folks affiliated with a group charged with any of those things.

In other words, the bill could plausibly defund the entire military-industrial complex. Whoops.

Rep. Alan Grayson (D-Fla.) picked up on the legislative overreach and asked the Project on Government Oversight (POGO) to sift through its database to find which contractors might be caught in the ACORN net.

Lockheed Martin and Northrop Gumman both popped up quickly, with 20 fraud cases between them, and the longer list is a Who's Who of weapons manufacturers and defense contractors.

Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/22/whoops-anti-acorn-bill-ro_n_294949.html

Posted by: tazm999 | September 22, 2009 10:25 PM | Report abuse

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