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EPA sends greenhouse gases finding to White House

By Juliet Eilperin
The Environmental Protection Agency has sent its final scientific finding on greenhouse gases to the White House, agency officials said Monday, a step that could trigger regulation of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases as pollutants under the Clean Air Act.

Sources said the document concludes the emissions pose a threat to the public's health and welfare. The agency did not release its finding, which was issued as a draft in April. The Office of Management and Budget now has 90 days to sign off on it.

Environmentalists embraced the move as a sign that the Obama administration is moving ahead on global warming policy less than a month before U.N.-sponsored climate talks begin in Copenhagen.

"As Copenhagen approaches, this step just enforces that -- one way or another -- a significant portion of U.S. emissions will be regulated very, very soon," said Josh Dorner, a spokesman for Clean Energy Works, an advocacy group.

Keith McCoy, vice president for energy and resources policy at the National Association of Manufacturers, said his members are worried that the Obama administration would put in place rules on greenhouse gases before Congress had a chance to pass climate legislation. While the House has passed a climate bill, the Senate is unlikely to take up its version of the measure before next year.

"We're concerned that EPA is moving forward before Congress," McCoy said. "We believe Congress should take the lead on an issue that has such a huge impact on manufacturers and the potential costs of manufacturing."

The endangerment finding was prompted by a 2007 Supreme Court ruling which ordered the EPA to determine whether greenhouse gases constituted a pollutant under the Clean Air Act.

EPA released a statement Monday saying it has submitted the endangerment finding "for interagency review. This is the next step in the regulatory process. Nothing has been finalized at this point, and the April 2009 proposed findings are still just that -- proposed and being reviewed through the regulatory process."

But Frank O'Donnell, who heads the advocacy group Clean Air Watch, said the submissions suggests the administration is trying to finalize the proposal before its negotiators leave for the climate talks starting Dec. 7.

"They don't want to go to Copenhagen empty-handed," he said.

By Juliet Eilperin  |  November 9, 2009; 6:00 PM ET
 
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Posted by: MarieDevine | November 9, 2009 9:38 PM | Report abuse

God is dead, but Lysenko lives and is apparently leading the EPA.

Posted by: FadingFast | November 10, 2009 1:48 AM | Report abuse

What FadingFast probably means to imply is that as a climate-change denier, his increasingly isolated "intellectual" position is akin to those of the brave Mendelian geneticists who suffered under Soviet repression in the 1950s, when "scientific dissent from Lysenko's theories of environmentally acquired inheritance was formally outlawed" and "opponents were purged from held positions, and many imprisoned." (Wikipedia).

The difference is that by the 1950s, most of the world outside the USSR believed in Mendelian genetics, because it was supported by evidence, while Lysenko was the one holding on to false ideology, unsupported by evidence, in the name of "science." That's why "Lysenko's work was officially discredited in the Soviet Union in 1964."

Today, most of the world outside of a few uniquely American nutjobs like FadingFast understand that climate change is real. So unfortunately for FadingFast, HE is Lysenko in his story, while EPA are the brave geneticists whose theories agree with what the rest of the world already knows. HE is the one holding fast to ideology in the face of all evidence, and his lying, death-mongering fossil-fuel-industry buddies are the only ones likely to get imprisoned any time in the near future— not for daring to speak the truth, but for unconscionably pumping out junk "science" for over 20 years to confuse the issue and protect their pocketbooks at the cost of millions of lives.

Posted by: frededias | November 10, 2009 3:38 AM | Report abuse

It is people like "frededias" who pervert the scientific method to political ends who are the modern day Lysenkos. The accepted science before creatures like Hansen, Mann, and Briffa came on the scene thanks to Gore and his Stalinist associates, was that climate was always had been variable and resulted from natural cyclical ans chaotic forces affecting the amount of heat received from the sun. It is incumbent on frededias and his ilk to provide incontrovertible evidence to the contrary for their theory to become accepted - as did Copernicus, Galileo, Darwin ans others - which explains the observable facts better than the solar explanation. Instead the have added two and two and come up with forty-two - the answer to life the universe, and everything - and demanded that we believe them on penalty of being called bad names and now, apparently, threats of imprisonment. They take the facts that CO2 is a heat retaining gas, that it's concentration is increasing and the the global average temperature WAS rising and declared causality. They will brook no evidence to the contrary. Anyone who expresses doubt is in the pocket of big oil while they and their green-washing entrepreneurial buddies get rich on inefficient green energy technology promotion and trading carbon credits. Climate models and modelers can not properly predict the near term climate let alone that at the end of the century. Models and theories that make predictions that far in the future are not falsifiable in our lifetimes. Falsifiability is a requirement of the scientific method. There are atmospheric physicists around the world who disagree, but they are shouted down or are too frightened for their careers to speak up in the face of the political blitzkrieg they face. This is Lysenkoism, and it gets more precarious by the day. As it does so, the high priests of climate change become more and more shrill and their predictions of Armageddon more and more catastrophic. Don't be taken in, nature and real science are proving them wrong.

Posted by: FadingFast | November 10, 2009 9:22 AM | Report abuse

FadingFast:-
" The accepted science before creatures like Hansen, Mann, and Briffa came on the scene thanks to Gore and his Stalinist associates, was that climate was always had been variable and resulted from natural cyclical ans chaotic forces affecting the amount of heat received from the sun."

Not true. I've been studying climatology (off and on) for 40 years, and even back then, it was known that human activity could affect climate. We didn't know how much, or even how, but no serious climatologist argued that our impact was negligable.

"It is incumbent on frededias and his ilk to provide incontrovertible evidence "

No it isn't; that isn't how science works. There is never 'incontrovertible' evidence in science; science works because any settled hypothesis can still be 'controverted'.

But we can (and must) respond to the best available hypothesis - which best fits the best available data.

When the welfare of our children and grandchildren is at stake, it would be inhuman not to respond to the enormous weight of evidence showing imminent, anthropogenic, climate change.

Posted by: strum | November 10, 2009 10:11 AM | Report abuse

this climate change thing is a farce. check out the government report at:

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/?report=national&year=2009&month=10&submitted=Get+Report

Posted by: charlietuna666 | November 10, 2009 8:42 PM | Report abuse

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