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Obama urges Democrats to pull together on health bill

By Lori Montgomery
Heading into a make-or-break week for his signature domestic initiative, President Barack Obama made a rare Sunday visit to the Capitol to urge a fractious Senate Democratic caucus to pull together to pass landmark legislation overhauling the nation's health care system.

Obama made no mention of a government-run "public option" insurance plan, abortion or other key issues that still divide Senate Democrats during the approximately 45 minute session, focusing instead on the "historic opportunity" for lawmakers "to provide stability and security for those who have insurance, affordable coverage for those who don't and bring down the cost of health care for families, small businesses and the government," said White House spokesman Bill Burton.

Afterward, Senate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.) said senators were inching closer to consensus, and that he still hopes to stage a final vote on a bill before the chamber adjourns for the Christmas break.

"There are still a few things we need to work out in the bill, but the issues are being narrowed as we speak," Reid told reporters. "The American people last year called for change, and change is taking place."

As the full Senate met throughout the afternoon on its seventh full day of debate on the $848 billion package, Democrats gathered behind the scenes to try to hammer out a compromise on the most contentious issue still outstanding, the public option. Last week, Reid said he asked five liberals and five moderates "to work things out on the issues they care a lot about," including the role of small businesses in the legislation and whether to create a government-run insurance plan.

Liberals such as Sens. John Rockefeller (D-W.Va.) and Tom Harkin (D-Iowa) strongly support a public plan, arguing that it would provide a competitive counter-weight to private insurance companies. At their urging, Reid added a public plan with an opt-out option for state governments to the package currently on the Senate floor.

Moderates such as Sens. Mary Landrieu (D-La.) and Ben Nelson (D-Neb.) have been adamantly opposed, however. One potential compromise that was under discussion on Sunday would create a national insurance plan that would be administered by the White House Office of Personnel Management but operated by private insurers. Aides said both sides were interested in the idea, but that an agreement had yet to be reached.

Meanwhile, on the divisive issue of abortion, Nelson planned to offer an amendment Monday to bar federal funds from being used for the procedure under the legislation. The amendment would mirror language adopted in the House on Nov. 7, which prohibited any public plan from covering abortion services and barred people who receive federal subsidies to buy insurance from using the cash to purchase a plan that offers abortion coverage.

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Comments

How many millions is he promising the Dems today? This bill is not for the good of the country. It's all about getting one for Obama! We need to stop and start over. Why is the SEIU with just 2 million members involved with this bill?

Posted by: gammilljanice | December 6, 2009 4:59 PM | Report abuse

The Democrats better get their act together or their act will be in the unemployment line after the future elections.

Posted by: shipfreakbo214 | December 6, 2009 5:11 PM | Report abuse

Is Obama actually in town? Air Force 1 must be down for repairs.

Posted by: jdonner2 | December 6, 2009 5:13 PM | Report abuse

The only way to fix this bill is to scrap it and start over. This is not a healthcare bill ... it is a power grab by BIG GOVERNMENT.

Posted by: markandbeth92 | December 6, 2009 5:13 PM | Report abuse

He's not all that.

At this point I'd settle for the bag of chips.

Posted by: treetopflyer | December 6, 2009 5:15 PM | Report abuse

The Democrats should know by now that most people have not fallen for the lies and scare tactics of the fringes and insurance reps against reform. It is time to deliver public option with reproductive services. Otherwise, they have joined the tantruming obstructionists who can only say no.

Posted by: revbookburn | December 6, 2009 5:18 PM | Report abuse

"Uncle Tom" Obama,so far he has let almost everyone who voted for him down.He kowtowed to the Wall Street Hymies giving them billions of $$$ in taxpayer money and then he just about give up on healthcare reform.Now he wants to expand the losing war in Afghanistan and Iraq.His moniker is "yes,sir boss,whatever you say boss" Stepin Fetchit had more self respect

Some people were born to be slaves.

Posted by: hyroller56 | December 6, 2009 5:20 PM | Report abuse

focusing instead on the "historic opportunity" for lawmakers

Translation- I promised this and good or bad you must pass it to save my neck.

Posted by: nanonano1 | December 6, 2009 5:23 PM | Report abuse

Why wait for our dithering US Congress?

We can get universal health care by our own actions!

Let's DUMP OUR PRIVATE INSURANCE!!

Quit giving these greedy pigs your hard-earned money! Be brave, drop your private insurance, keep the dough yourself, and stick it to the health insurance industry and their despicable lobbyists!

Go to Facebook and check out the group:

"Save America! Dump Your Private Insurance!" and let's discuss this some more.

You KNOW the insurance companies will drop you in an instant if you ever get sick. Do yourself a favor, give yourself a raise, and DUMP YOUR PRIVATE INSURANCE!

If everybody does this, universal health care will become that much more urgent!

Posted by: JC505 | December 6, 2009 5:26 PM | Report abuse

Reid told reporters, "The American people last year called for change, and change is taking place." But this is not the change we want. We want Medicare for everyone, no exceptions: no Cadillac plans, no uninsured, and no insurance executives paid off-the-chart salaries and benefits.

We do _NOT_ want Americans to be forced by threats of fines to buy health insurance. This continues the inhuman tendency in America to rob the poor and put ever more into the pockets of the already rich.

Fractious PR to the contrary, everyone who is sick deserves to be treated and treated well. I do not trust Mr. Obama any more. His constant tendency to compromise has become an onerous liability to us all.

The people he needs to stand up against are not the Afghanis. They are his own advisors and cabinet members. He listens to corporate executives, to Mr. Gates, to Ms. Clinton, and to General Petraeus, not to us. His "bubble" is just as impenetrable as Mr. Bush's. And it's leading us into even greater folly.

His health bill as his war plan are betrayals. He has totally and forever forfeited my esteem.

Posted by: dwyerj1 | December 6, 2009 5:31 PM | Report abuse

The GOP has only one objective - to regain power and to do whatever it takes to get back in power. The GOP has broken its sworn oath to preserve and protect the Constitution and people, and says nothing that can believed. This morning on NPR Mitch McConnell said that in the last month he has not seen a single poll indicating Americans support health care, not one - maybe he doesn't ever read anything? The polls are very supportive of reform. The GOP only pays obeisance to POWER and it corporate Mammon benefactors.

As for the Democrats, they are hopeless while they allow the entire country to be hijacked for the political interests of a small band of Dem nasties - Lieberman, Landrieu, Ben Nelson, etc. - who act like Republicans. In November 2008 the Dems received a historic majority and control of the government and they have managed to flub it, making the GOP look like an alternative , though it offers nothing but mindlessness, lies and anti-government junk policy b Christians(?) trying to dominate the world.

Now its Utter hopelessness for us independent voters who supported the end of Bush-Cheney-Rove neutron bombings of the American government and middle class.

Posted by: enough3 | December 6, 2009 5:33 PM | Report abuse

the comments by hyroller56 are incredibly racist -

a fitting representative of the "conservative" side these days.

what a shame - but I guess that's what makes America great. Not that we have brainless hate and fearmongers - but that we allow them to spew their vile because we trust the majority of people are smarter than that and can handle the insanity . . .

Posted by: wandering1day | December 6, 2009 5:35 PM | Report abuse

What we have here is your classic, bloated, misbegotten, federal, medical welfare, monstrosity of a government program.

If passed, it will have to be killed in twenty or so years to put US out of our misery.

Remember how wonderful WELFARE was supposed to be back around 1967??

This health care boondoggle promises to be even worse.

Posted by: battleground51 | December 6, 2009 5:40 PM | Report abuse

"He made no mention of private insurance" not because it's divisive, rather, because it's about BUSINESS. With a public option the $$$$$$$$ health care industry would go kerfloooy. And he does not want that to happen. Right now 40% of this nation is on the public option via the Veteran's Administration, Medicaid and Medicare. The administrative rate for these programs is about 3%. It's about the President keeping his mouth shut all Summer, all Autumn and allowing craziness to continue via the "death option" and all of that crap while he sat back and whistled his own sweet toon.

Ask yourself: So, are you going to vote for him or for the Republican next Presidential election. He figures probably him.

And believe it (at least I do ) that he couldn't care less about a public option. Why? Because he hasn't said much about one.

Oh, and it's coming more out in the open that Medicare is going to be UNDERFUNDED and care is going to be dropped.

Someone in Congress should get on this guy's case. I supported him but if there's a primary and Mrs. Clinton runs then she gets my vote. Not him.

Posted by: jato11 | December 6, 2009 5:40 PM | Report abuse

truth be,if this was really a bad bill the republicans would keep their mouth shut,and when it failed say i told you so.they are afraid it will work thats why they are opposed to everything.

Posted by: donaldtucker | December 6, 2009 5:45 PM | Report abuse

The senators are listening to constituents. They don't want to loose their seat by voting against what they're being told by their people. Elections are just around the corner and it would not be politically "realistic" to go against the flood of emails and calls from voters from their states.

Posted by: bassmaan | December 6, 2009 5:47 PM | Report abuse

How many hundreds of billions of tax payer money did he promise away to senators?

What happened to transparency? Doesn't Obama want us to see what he and the Senators are doing with OUR money?

How many big corporate special interests were paid off?

Posted by: bob59 | December 6, 2009 5:47 PM | Report abuse

focusing instead on the "historic opportunity" for lawmakers

Translation- I promised this and good or bad you must pass it to save my neck.

Posted by: nanonano1 | December 6, 2009 5:23 PM
...............................
You said this far better than I could.
Right on the money.

Posted by: bsallamack | December 6, 2009 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Obama should head for the outhouse to do his business, not the Senate.

Posted by: farmsnorton | December 6, 2009 5:51 PM | Report abuse

Why does a visit by Obama and the Executive Branch make a difference (oh and they took that world class political machine Axelrood) with them--he probably had to record the promises for taxpayer money for support. Why cannot Obama let Senators vote their conscience? Is that the heart of democracy. OH, yead Obama, Axelroood and Rahm really do not believe in democracy. They believe in a system of by the government, of the government and for the government. American citizens do not matter in their gulagish thought.

Posted by: Mindboggle | December 6, 2009 6:02 PM | Report abuse


PASS HEALTH CARE REFORM DAMNIT!!! WHILE YOU'RE AT IT, ADD AN AMENDMENT TO BREAK UP THE VERIZON MONOPOLY!!!!

Posted by: demtse | December 6, 2009 6:02 PM | Report abuse

Has he had enough time sitting on the sidelines not saying what he really believes in? I expected a lot more from him, and got next to nothing in terms of leadership. If this is the best he can do, don't bother.

Posted by: paulnolan97 | December 6, 2009 6:06 PM | Report abuse

The answer to the question below regarding the SEIU is the public option. The third largest employer in the Wordl is the British buraucracy that runs the British public health care system.

The SEIU is drooling to build a government bureaucracy that would become the largest employer in the world. The SEIU is involved because most of the jobs would be government union jobs that they would be getting. Millions of new bureaucrats that the taxpayers would now have to cover their pensions and health care benefits. The cost of such a monster would be staggering, and once created it will vote itself in.

Fight the public option at every turn. Delay this until the 2010 election and we can start sending many of these Democrats home. Take back the House and Senate and stop the government takeover of our Country and the shredding of our personal liberty and the Constitution.


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How many millions is he promising the Dems today? This bill is not for the good of the country. It's all about getting one for Obama! We need to stop and start over. Why is the SEIU with just 2 million members involved with this bill?

Posted by: gammilljanice

Posted by: Bubbette1 | December 6, 2009 6:09 PM | Report abuse

Most people I know with either chronic or terminal illnesses are not satisfied with Medicare as it stands now. In my own case Medicare falls short more than $800 most months in covering the medications that keep me alive. Sterling Greenwood/Aspen Free Press

Posted by: AspenFreePress | December 6, 2009 6:30 PM | Report abuse

Gee I wonder why the Health Insurance Industry and the Republicans are so against a public option. Could it be they know without any competition they can continue to dump people who have health problems and then charge whatever they want to the ones that are left so they can continue their record profits. Are people really to stupid to understand that the insurance companies get together and have no desire whatsoever to compete when they know PEOPLE REALLY DON'T HAVE A CHOICE and they can all charge what they want anyway. Unbelievable.

Posted by: imgibson | December 6, 2009 6:34 PM | Report abuse

Yea pull together RATS(short for democrats) exit 2010 all at the same time.

Posted by: Imarkex | December 6, 2009 6:34 PM | Report abuse

why is it bribery if you give a politician you money to vote a certain way but its ok for one politician to give millions to another - and the money is ours - to vote a certain way?
lets start applying the bribery laws!
the money buys his votes and then he tells those who elect him that he got them something for nothing, so they should vote for him again.
sounds like bribery to me.

Posted by: infantry11b4faus | December 6, 2009 6:42 PM | Report abuse

This is not about Health Care Reform...it's about Government Control. We don't have the money for this nonsense..we're using Monopoly Money as it is. I think he is trying to bankrupt America so we can all live like his brother in Kenya...in a grass hut making $1.00 a day or his cousin in Beijing..under communist rule. We need TERM LIMITS and get these professional crooks out of our house!

Posted by: atthun | December 6, 2009 6:51 PM | Report abuse

INCREASED COMPETITION LOWERS PRICES!!!

Posted by: demtse | December 6, 2009 6:58 PM | Report abuse

more landrieu required

every since mary landrieu PUBLICLY extorted $300 million for her vote and then BRAGGED, all the other 99 senators, each knowing they are smarter and more important, have demanded more

and obama only has $1 Trillion from the stimulus to make the necessary landrieu to the other 99 senators

Posted by: ProCounsel | December 6, 2009 6:59 PM | Report abuse

Hi There ,

There seems to be a lot of whom of peoples bashing at what they want to..

about our Leaders of our Country..

and the peoples blogs of a many are not Civil to their nature ..

maybe there should be some censuring.?

Now to what point does health care supposed to be followed ....

what are the most Important rules that could be followed at these decisions ..

and of what Bills to formulate what Laws ..?

There is pleasing some sometimes ..

but othertimes there is no way of pleasing of everyone....

so then thee must make your decisions and hope for the best .!!

A many things are trial and error...

but of a certain formulations even of what a system..

is this all a science that may be a much of impossible...

because people are not perfect right.?

And also about what Monopolies..

if there are such large such could there be some parts of like seperations ..

like how money of the very wealthy must be in different places ,,, like banks of their parts of what or different what states even.?..

because if they or some fail ...

what becomes to they or that part of.?

this may be why small businesses are impotant also.


Our Leaders could stand behind some of their values or Ideals right either Democrat or Republican or Independent ..?

hopefully to achieve something for that the majority of all of the Leaders could count on and work for . to achieve together.?

not filibustering or what..


to try to live up to some type of what goals..

also for our Govt. or .peoples ,, or helping land ,, water ,,air quality,,or energy...or what.?

or whom we our U.S. could help ..

if we are asked and our U.S. is willing too.?

would some of this have any of what of a gain to for U.S. somehow.?

possesion is 9 tenth's of the law ..

so what is our country of possesions count or have inventory of what..

there is too much anything goes of many ways ..

maybe some type of a reform may be some needed also ..

in a many aspects of what you decide..

support the troops ...

well have a nice night ,
from Larry .
A Vet ,,
in the heartland..

Posted by: L_Stevens64 | December 6, 2009 7:02 PM | Report abuse

Let's be honest: the health insurance reform debate is no longer about what is best for the country or what the country wants, what with polls showing only 38% support for the legislation. And the final bill is being shaped not, again, by what's good for the country but by what comprises can be squeezed out and what promises to certain constituents can be made. Where once Obama touted the benefit of bipartisan support, he now is harping on his party to stick together. Focusing on the interests of the PARTY, instead of the COUNTRY, is in my view an act of treason. There appears to be not a single Democrat senator with the guts to stand up and say, "this is wrong - we don't put party first - we are the only statesmen the country has". Sad.

Posted by: MeInTheMiddle | December 6, 2009 7:08 PM | Report abuse

I just do not get it. What is the advantage to the people to have the government administrate health insurance and private insurance companies have personal management. Who actually will have the last word with this system? Who benefits? The govt, the private insurance companies or the people???? Sounds like a bunch of double talk to me!!!! No mention of illegals and how they will be covered w/o cost, but Seniors take the rap. Reduse Medicare, no cost of Living increase and the proposed $250. for each senior on SS and then we will be told that $250. will be considered earned income and we will have to declare it. We Seniors are being considered 2nd Class Citizens by this administration.

Oh yes Obama, how about coming clean with us, are you or are you not a true American? Bet your bottom dollar we will not get a straight forward complete honest answer on that one as well! Just a lot of double talk!!!!!!!!

Posted by: LOONYBIN2000 | December 6, 2009 7:08 PM | Report abuse

With this legislation hanging on a couple of votes, every Senator is in a great position to demand a LOT of pork. Landrieu got $300 mil, so figure about $20 billion in all to get this one through.

Give or take.

Posted by: oracle2world | December 6, 2009 7:09 PM | Report abuse

I have no political affiliation. The American people were told that the purpose of this bill was to reduce health care costs, and to provide affordable health insurance for all Americans. The Democrats want a public option, which they claim will increase competition and reduce costs. The Republicans want Malpractice Insurance Reform and interstate availability of health insurance, which they claim will reduce costs. I think many of the ideas from both sides have merit -- so why doesn't the bill incorporate ALL of them? We should be doing absolutely EVERYTHING we can to reduce costs. Why isn't malpractice insurance reform part of the Democratic bill? And what's wrong with a public option, if that's truly what it is -- just an option? The answer is, of course, that the whole process is just a political game -- each party has its own special interests that it has to appease to get support. If the Democrats truly wanted the best possible reform bill, they would incorporate all of the Republican ideas that have merit along with their own. If the Republicans still won't vote for the bill because of partisanship, it doesn't matter, because the Democrats can pass it without them. But at least it would be a bill that has real value, and something that the American people would support.

Posted by: Jay31 | December 6, 2009 7:10 PM | Report abuse

None of us wants or needs health insurance as provided by actuaries and agents of health insurance companies. What any of us wants and needs is health care delivered by medical professionals.

Health insurance companies function only as gatekeepers, rationing health care to maximize profits - the primary goal, indeed business obligation, of these organizations which serve no useful role in health care management or delivery.

I have American friends who have spent years in France, which has no health insurance industry and yet, they assure me, delivers significantly better health care than here in the United States, even better than portrayed in Michael Moore's movie, "Sicko".

Over the next 5 to 15 ... years, I want to see the entire United States health insurance industry phased out of anything to do with health care, so that my dollars can be redirected from health insurance companies to real medical professionals actually capable of providing good health care. I wish to enjoy, as the people of France do, good health care and the freedom from ever again having to think about health insurance.

Posted by: flmcl | December 6, 2009 7:14 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA TO SUBCONTRACT SENATE VOTE BUYING TO WALMART

(WASHINGTON DC) In a move widely hailed by business persons, the Obama Administration has agreed to subcontract purchase of individual United States Senators votes, the procedure known as landrieu, to Walmart for lower prices.

"Let me be clear. For far too long American taxpayers have had to pay too much for landrieu. Walmart is the best in the private sector at lowering prices."

"So the White House has partnered with Walmart to lower the price of landrieu for purchasing each Dem Senators vote."

"Walmart-lower prices--always," President Obama concluded.

Sen Reid expressed outrage, "We will see!! Senators will set up a union "Landrieu Politicians Local 2009" to collectively bargain with Walmart for the sale of each Dem US Senators Vote."

Posted by: ProCounsel | December 6, 2009 7:22 PM | Report abuse

One other way Obama can save money spent on the Health System for the government is by sending 70,000 men to war in Afg. Think of how many of our young people will be killed, so less to worry about. People sacrifised for no damm good reason and Health care can take them off the roles!!!!!!

Posted by: LOONYBIN2000 | December 6, 2009 7:25 PM | Report abuse

Contrary to what Dingy Harry thinks, the public doesn't want anything to do with this "change". If any of these Dems think Obama is looking out for them they are wrong. He's all about him. Go ahead and commit political suicide. We are going to vote all these bums out in 2010.

Posted by: DaMan2 | December 6, 2009 7:28 PM | Report abuse

If Seniors are concerned about Medicare being cut, can we expand Public Option to cover Medicare or vice versa? Medicare is a well like government-run plan. How many people do you know that cannot wait to turn 65 and join Medicare?

Posted by: dummy4peace | December 6, 2009 7:43 PM | Report abuse

Chico, CA
December 6th, 2009
8:38 am
Words cannot express my disappointment in the president's decision. Coming on the heels of his inaction on so many things that were implicitly promised last year (Gitmo, Don't Ask Don't Tell, an urgent green jobs effort and more) and the sellout to Wall Street and the banksters at the expense of nearly everyone else, it has pushed me out of the "give him time, he inherited a mess" camp to the "apparently, no we can't" camp. I've dropped my 40-year Democratic registration to go unaffiliated. I am deeply, deeply saddened to feel this way, but, as I sat watching him speak in the bowels of the military cult, saying things that W could just as easily have said, telling us that we're going to pacify Afghanistan, eradicate al Queda AND the Taliban, and leave a stable, sustainable modern state there, I went from sadness to anger to disgust. Something just snapped, and I'll never listen to him the same way again.

The slightest reading into the facts about that misbegotten place makes it obvious that he cannot accomplish what he laid out. We're backing a government and security apparatus that is utterly dominated, tribally, by a 25% Tajik minority. The Taliban are Pashtun, 42% of the population, and their resentment at being dominated by an even smaller minority simply feeds anti-American anger. No one at the top seems to grasp this, or, if they do, to speak and think honestly about its implications.

The generals and big money OWN him and his decision making. His party is rotting from within via the Blue Dog revolt, and I no longer believe that we will see anything recognizable as progressive with his top advisers kowtowing to what are essentially moderate Republicans (I know, extinct species, but this is what they used to be) and giving ground again and again on health care.

The Glenn Becks and the Tea Party psychos are winning the battle despite numbers in the teens at best. It's a failure of resolve and vision. We expected more, and our troubled land desperately deserves better, but Congress is bought and paid for, and that's the end of that.

Who knows what might have been if he had stood up for what he sold us last year instead of going along to get along. Some bully pulpit....

Posted by: bluelagoon21 | December 6, 2009 7:45 PM | Report abuse

Sooooooooo, what are the drunken sailors in the Congress and the Man Child in the Oval Office up to today ???
Apparently continuing to spend money that they don't have................as usual !!!

Actually, the ONLY difference between the Dem's and the Pub's is the Letter after their names !!!
Otherwise there's not a pound of difference between ANY of them and their quest for power !!!

Posted by: thgirbla | December 6, 2009 7:46 PM | Report abuse

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/04/opinion/04krugman.html?scp=4&sq=health%20care%20reform&st=cse

"For America can’t get control of its budget without controlling health care costs — and this is our last, best chance to deal with these costs in a rational way." - Paul Krugman

I am a fiscal conservative Independent and I am all for a strong Public Option or a Medicare-like government-run plan to save us from more deficits and create jobs by small businesses. Ask any small business in MA and they will tell you that now they can afford health care coverage with the Commonwealth Health Insurance enacted by Gov. Romney in 2006. You can't mandate without an affordable public option.

Posted by: dummy4peace | December 6, 2009 7:57 PM | Report abuse

The Fed. Govt. is NOT my Mother or Father !!!
I already have those !!!
Bigger Govt. is NOT the solution, Bigger Govt. IS the PROBLEM !!!
The craddle to grave mentality by the Fed. Govt. does not exist in my life !!!
I take care of myself and my family, and judging from my pay stub, I'm also taking care of alot of others as well ???

Novel Idea: A balanced budget !!!
Less Govt. Spending !!!
Every bureaucrat currently on the Fed. payroll, including Congress and the Oval Office should take an immediate 5% paycut for NOT having done their jobs for the past several years !!! (Yes, that includes Bush and Cheney's retirement check !!!)
Less Govt. Growth !!!

ETC., ETC., ETC. !!!

Posted by: thgirbla | December 6, 2009 7:57 PM | Report abuse

THERE CAME A POINT IN TIME IN WHICH THE AMERICAN PEOPLE LOST FAITH IN THEIR NEW MILITARY LEADER. THEY HAD ALL BUT STOPPED SUPPORTING HIM. IT LOOKED AS IF THE WAR WAS LOST. I COULD NOT FEEL MORE PRIDE FOR THAT MAN THAN I DO FOR PRESIDENT OBAMA. HE HAS MY DEEP ADMIRATION, MY HEARTFELT APPRECIATION, MY STEADFAST LOYALTY. I KNOW THAT HISTORY WILL HONOR THIS MAN, AS IT DID THE OTHER, WHOSE PICTURE IS ON THE DOLLAR BILL. i SALUTE YOU PRESIDENT OBAMA. YOU MAY NOT BE THE MESSIAH, BUT IT HARDLY MATTERS. THEY KILLED HIM, TOO.

Posted by: TheSimpleTruth | December 6, 2009 8:08 PM | Report abuse

Americans are so weird. Why are you so passionate about insurance companies and ensuring they continue making huge profits - it seems obvious that health care is essential and not something one generally shops around for. It should be available to all and provided in the most effective, efficient and cost-effective way possible. Why do Americans accept that that companies can profit of their (ill) health, with the exclusions and additional costs involved?

Many Americans seem adamant that they want to retain a system where an insurance company bureaucrat can tell them what treatments they can have based on the self-interest/profit motive of the respective insurance company... bizarre!!!

Posted by: jakster1 | December 6, 2009 8:39 PM | Report abuse

This may sound like an idle conceit, but I find that most people on the right and the left are not sufficiently informed to say anything of value or offer an engaging opinion with respect to healthcare. It would be good science to look at foreign models of healthcare and see how effective they really are. Most people are informed by the Canadian or British models, as analyzed by their favorite charismatic, but ill-informed cable news commentator on the left and the right, and then come away believing what they want to believe without having a thought of their own.

Not surprisingly there are other European and Asian models that are well worth looking at. Some of these models offer excellent universal national health programs, but without a government-run program. One thing that all of these programs have in common are costs that are far, far lower than what we pay in the USA. And let's not assume that we pay more because we have the best medical services in the world. We don't! The USA ranks 37th among the nations of the world in the quality of healthcare provided. Please do not parrot back something you've heard on TV, but rather spend your energies in research. You may be surprised. A little less hatred and incivility just might bring something good to this debate.

Posted by: Maurice10 | December 6, 2009 9:03 PM | Report abuse

It certainly appears that obama is trying to ruin this country in spite of the fact that more and more people are rejecting his attempt at converting this country to a socialist nation.
Obama has become a man on a crusade to get something passed in congress, no matter how bad it is. Can he be the Anti-Christ that we have been warned might appear? He seems to fit the description, being a muslim, and out to ruin this country from the inside.
How can he reject the common sense thinking to utilize our own energy sources instead of setting up the stupid cap and trade based on falsified data and try to saddle us with major taxes for energy use. Tapping our own huge energy resources would create jobs and reduce our dependence. We are slowly being taken advantage of by the liberal socialist elite and we must stop this destruction of America. Vote these idiots out and take back America.

Posted by: spiris333 | December 6, 2009 9:58 PM | Report abuse

Bi-Partisan Politics?

How has Mr.Obama done
on that promise?

I am sure the Mass Media
will conclude he has certainly
kept that promise.

This Government is so corrupt,
So filled with
a malice towards average americans,
It has no sympathy,
to those suffering.

Posted by: simonsays1 | December 7, 2009 4:28 PM | Report abuse

You are right, simonsays1. No administration ever before has been as corrupt and harmful as Obama's. But it was to be expected. As his parents, relatives, mentors, friends and associates, Obama is a Marxist who hates the U.S. As such, he's working hard to destroy our country.

Posted by: AntonioSosa | December 8, 2009 1:52 AM | Report abuse

Did you know the criminal guidelines for Obamacare are in the book “Stand Up Straight: How Progressives Can Win,” written before Obama was even elected? Who wrote the book? Robert Creamer, a convicted felon. He says he wrote the book inspired by Saul Alinsky.

The guidelines for Obamacare are in this book! He suggests that a bogus health crisis be created! He suggests – point by point -- the lies, manipulation, intimidation, and coercion we have witnessed from Obama and his accomplices to force us to swallow the Obamacare scam!

This convicted felon, Robert Creamer, was among the “distinguished” guests at the dinner party where the Salahis were declared “intruders.”

Posted by: AntonioSosa | December 8, 2009 1:53 AM | Report abuse

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