Comment Box: Nick Cannon Marries Up

My Top Five List of Old or Dead Guys I'd Have Gotten with in Their Youth:

1. Paul Newman
2. Marlon Brando (oh, the shock when I found out that the Godfather was once a fox)
3. Cary Grant
4. Gregory Peck
5. George Peppard

Honorable mention: Troy Donahue (as long as he promised not to talk, or only to repeat lines from "Rome Adventure")

i hope there was a prenup...any news on that Liz?

Gotta agree with musicgeek's top five Old or Dead Guys I Lust After Even Though It Just Feels Wrong. To that list, however, I would add Jeff Buckley, Humphrey Bogart, Jimmy Stewart and Gene Kelly.

US mag reports that mariah and nick go back at least two years, so there was a friendship there, for whatever that's worth. still, getting married after 2 months of romance is just nuts. i smell an annulment by july, and maybe the tats were henna?

Old guy that I have have loved since I was in middle school, although I probably don't technically "lust" after him anymore: Harrison Ford! Watched Raiders this weekend, and whew! He was HOT! I would still probably completely lose it if I ever met him (unlikely as that may be).

I will forever have a crush on Col. John "Hannibal" Smith... I think it was the cigar... I love a bad boy.

Are Nic Cannon and Mariah Carey actually "legally" married?

After all, Eddie Murphy also had an island wedding and a big photo spread of the festivities in People.

And then it turned out to be a big phony deal.

Who knew Anna Nicole Smith and her faux "commitment" (gag) ceremony would be such a trailblazer.

A gang of friends had a NCAA bracket-style contest called "Whomever Would You Do?" where participants would post pictures of celebrities (at the age/stage you most enjoyed them for their qualities), the nominations were bracketed and then we voted off. Boy, was that fun!

My top 5 (male)
1. Robert Redford
2. Clint Eastwood
3. Steve McQueen
4. Paul Newman
5. Cary Grant

I was thinking about recommending for Friday List a list of the celebrities most over rates for their looks at whatever stage of their careers and/or lives. But I imagine such a list would be hundreds, if not thousands of names long.

Applause for the correct grammar in NC2's list title.

My 5 Dead Guys (in no particular order) I'd do if they weren't dead & I didn't know what I know about them(but that's only for 4 of them):

-Elvis
-Jim Morrison
-Brando
-James Dean
-Gene Kelly (much better ass than Fred Astaire, yes I've checked out his ass)

All "bad boys" except Kelly...**lesigh**

I'll go with my top five also:
1. Errol Flynn (who could resist Robin Hood?)
2. Gene Kelly (a la An American in Paris)
3. Marlon Brando (nom nom)
4. Kirk Douglas ("I am Sparticus")
5. James Garner (will be humming the theme to The Great Escape all day now...)

"If crushing on dead celebs is wrong, then I don't want to be right."

This reminds me of a comedian (can't remember his name) I heard on the satellite radio recently:

"My buddy asked me, 'If you could do any celebrity you wanted, living or dead, who would it be?'
"So I said, 'Britney Spears, and dead.'"

Top 5 oldies but goodies:

1. Paul Newman
2. Robert Redford
3. Harrison Ford
4. Sean Connery
5. Billy Idol

The list of old guys I'd have done in their prime is, of course, distinguished from the Top Five Old Guys I'd Still Get with after a Few Drinks:

1. Mick Jagger
2. Sting
3. Harrison Ford
4. Daniel Day-Lewis (on probation after that horrible Oscar night getup)
5.

Oh, now this is a problem. Sean Connery usually takes the fifth spot, but he is getting up there. I can't quite lump him in with actual dead guys - or anyone whose livelihood involves posing American Gothic-style for an organic pasta sauce label - nor can I admit that I would, erm, go there these days. 'Tis a predicament.

How sad, not a single lustful thought about a young Orson Welles? He was quite the catch before the fortune, fame, and run-in with Dunkin Donuts.

Steve McQueen, Sean Connery, Frank Howard (I know, who?), Gregory Peck.

By the way, seeing Troy Donohue on musicgeek's list made me start singing, "If Troy Donohue can be a movie star/Then I can be a movie star..."

musicgeek, if two of the Top Five Old Guys You'd Still Get with after a Few Drinks are Mick Jagger (64) and Harrison Ford (65), I submit that your 'problem' in re: 78-year-old Mr. Connery can be easily solved by your having another one or two drinks.

It's a win-win-win.

I blame Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade for my lack of interest in the Sean Connery of 2008. Anyone old enough to be believable as Harrison Ford's dad just can't make the list. Although, byoolin, I am an empiricist. So pass the Wild Turkey...

Atta girl.

Yul Brynner? Anyone?
If you don't believe me, watch the Magnificent 7.
ZOMG

How sad, not a single lustful thought about a young Orson Welles? He was quite the catch before the fortune, fame, and run-in with Dunkin Donuts.

Posted by: RKO anyone? | May 12, 2008 2:15 PM
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Not to mention a date or two with Paul Masson.

Dead - Montgomery Clift
Old - Paul Newman

Ah, where are the guys with their picks?

sickest thing ever !!

she could be his mother !!!!!

i mean, hellooooo ?

am i the only one on this earth that thinks this?

No one mentioned Old Blue Eyes? What a thoughtless oversight.

And, among the undead, I likes me some Pierce Brosnan. Shaken.

Ah, where are the guys with their picks?

Posted by: jake e. poo | May 12, 2008 2:47 PM

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Oh, I'd *so* hit that.

My top 5 OGsIWGWAAFDs-

1.) Joel McCrea (watch Sullivan's Travels to see what I mean)
2.) Jim Morrison
3.) Harrison Ford
4.) Gene Kelly
5.) Wm. Shatner (circa 1968 as James T. Kirk. I had a MASSIVE crush on him in Junior High. Thought JTK was "the man.")

I'd shake Pierce Brosnan's martini any time.

Ah, abby, how many 11 year olds do you know that have given birth? You must be one of those texting tweener tw*t, since you can't do basic math.

Oldest to youngest? (aka "Dead to Non-Dead")

1. Jayne Mansfield
2. Vivien Leigh
3. Sophia Loren
4. Faye Dunaway
5. Victoria Principal

To other liz,

yes, Yul Brynner was wonderful. Also see The King and I. Top 3 female oldies:

Audrey Hepburn
Sophia Loren
Ingrid Bergman
and top 5 male oldies:

Yul Brynner
Gregory Peck
Charlton Heston (gay or not gay)
Rock Hudson
Clint Eastwood

Given that Renee Russo is 54 and has the body of a pilates instructor, can we safely assume that the cast of the Thomas Crown Affair is the gold standard of gracefully-aged hotness? Russo, Brosnan, Dunaway. Game over.

Oops! I meant gay or not gay comment for Rock Hudson not for Charlton Heston. Sorry.

Clark Gable, anyone?

How could I forget Peter O'Toole in How to Steal a Million? Move over, Paul Newman.

Guy, which Jayne Mansfield? The regular or the bobblehead model?

Gregory Peck? Cary Grant? Gene Kelly? You people are making me drool.

testing testing

I'd shake Pierce Brosnan's martini any time.

Posted by: musicgeek | May 12, 2008 2:59 PM

He could stir mine anytime!

I watched "Red River" the other day, and man is Montgomery Clift sexy. There is one scene where he's wearing his buckskin suit, and a lady takes a poisoned arrow to the shoulder and Monty has to suck out the poison. Yikes!

Hmmmmm, my top celebrity classy dames....that's tough. Okay, I'll offer a few picks from the present and past. But the list will need refinement.

In no particular order (Hell, if they're that hot, why rank order them?):

Kate Winslet (any version)
Jennifer Garner (as Elektra or as Sydney Bristow)
Halle Berry (in her post-pregnancy glory)
Jane Russell (the young version, not the old)
Jamie Lee Curtis (around the time of True Lies)
Kathleen Turner (from Body Heat days)

Rene Russo in "The Thomas Crown Affair" -- yeah, baby. Amen to that!

Keep your Clark Gable. He's on my Suspected Smellers list.
But I'll take all the Cary Grant I can!
How about some love for Gene Kelly, very early George C. Scott, maybe a little Jimmy Stewart.
Somebody's got Gregory Peck, right? I want to *live* in "Roman Holiday."
Jack Lemmon. A smattering of Frederic March ... William Holden. Laurence Olivier when he's being mysterious. Not so much when he's being Master Thespian.
I'm really coming out of the old-movies-fan closet, ain't I?

Forgot another hottie:

Catherine Zeta-Jones

Luv, Clark Gable had bad breath, so he's off my list (sort of like that young guy who refuses to use deodorant -- just can't get past that).

Women in their prime:

Audrey Hepburn
Katherine Hepburn
Raquel Welch
Mae West
Marilyn Monroe (before sloppy seconds after the Kennedy boys)

My five all time faves:

1. James Garner (Maverick, you have my heart!)
2. Gregory Peck (Roman Holiday, sigh)
3. Paul Newman (always & forever)
4. William Holden (Stalag!)
5. Gene Kelly (pining for Judy Garland in Funny Farm as she sings, so sweet!)

My wife's list of men that only got better with age:

Sting
Paul Newman
George Clooney
Robert Redford
Pierce Brosnan

Right I almost forgot Cary Elwes of the Princess Bride days although for some reason he didn't age so well to my eyes.

RKO anyone?, I was just thinking I had forgotten about Orson Welles. Thank you for mentioning him.

Oh musicgeek, I'll sign onto your Thomas Crown Affair trifecta. The fact that McQueen & Dunaway did the original only makes it better.

First of all, I'd like to thank the Academy and all the little people who helped along the way....

What? None of you guys mentioned Queen Helen Mirren? She posed nude for that movie about the calendar girls. Perhaps it was called "Calendar Girls" or something like that.

And there are three old broads who are not just aging gracefully, but are defying gravity:

Eartha Kit
Tina Turner
Lena Horne

To the menfolk:

Cap'n Jean Luc Piccard, Patrick Stewart
Ben Kingsley among the living.

I always had a soft spot for Jimmy Stewart, even when he was an old man. What a cutie pie!

And what about Albert Einstein--talk about the bragging rights for that one!

I thought I was the only one who had a crush on Gene Kelly.

Harrison Ford (in "Witness")
Rock Hudson (in "Giant")
Gene Kelly (in "Marjorie Morningstar")
Gregory Peck (in "To Kill a Mockingbird")
Richard Burton (in "The Robe")
Paul Newman (in "The Long Hot Summer" and "Cat on a Hot Tin Roof")

Oh, yeah, and

Sidney Portier (in "To Sir With Love")

And

Sean Connery (in "Robin Hood Prince of Thieves")
James Garner (in any "Maverick" episode)

There sure are a lot of fine old guys, aren't there?

In no particular order:

* Ingrid Bergman
* Myrna Loy
* Prunella Scales
* Jayne Mansfield
* (this space for rent)

1. Kelly McGillis in "Top Gun"
2. Rene Russo in "The Thomas Crown Affair"
3. Robin Wright in "The Princess Bride"
4. Helen Hunt circa the first season of "Mad About You"
5. Charlize Theron in "The Devil's Advocate"

That said, I wouldn't turn down, in their younger days:

Cyd Charisse
Audrey Hepburn
Katharine Ross

Ok my list:

Grace Kelly
Kathleen Turner
Diane Lane
Natalie Wood
Sigourney Weaver

Oh I love Paul Newman. I can't even walk pass the man's salad dressing without going gaga over his baby blue eyes. I don't care how old the man is he is suave.
And Other Liz, my grandfather is a dead ringer for Cary Grant. If Mr. Grant wasn't already dead I'm pretty sure gramps could have quite a successful career as a celebrity impersonator.

Diane Lane! Good one, michael. She just knocked Charlize outta my top 5. Natalie Wood is good, too. (Hmm, maybe I'd better rethink this. . . .)

Come on, guys, lets stick with the old or dead. Charlize Theron, is neither.

Curmudgeon,

You seem to have given a lot of thought to the topic. My list would include:

Rock Hudson - "Pillow Talk"
Clark Gable - "It Happened One Night"
Gene Kelly - "An American In Paris"
Maurice Chevalier - "Gigi"
Any James Bond except Roger Moore or Woody Allen

Oh, here's a dark horse from the back of the pack -- a young George Lucas. Holy smoke, he was a hottie when he was about 20. Before he started growing another head out of the front of his neck.

1. Pierce Brosnan
2. Alan Rickman
3. Harrison Ford
4. Robert Redford
5. David Letterman
6. Rutger Hauer
7. Sam Neal
6. Dustin Hoffman
7. Johnny Depp (not actually old, but why not?)
8. Clive Owen (see #7 above)

Looks aren't everything -- I like a sense of humor and off-beat quirky looks.

Yes, indeed, Yellojkt.

I do a lot of concupiscent thinking about old and/or dead guys. They're my type.

Christopher Plummer, Capt. Von Trapp, even if he didn't sing Eldeweiss.

Michael Douglas -- loved him in The American President.

HE DIDN"T REALLY SING ELDEWEISS??? my world is crashing down.

And Christopher Reeve.

Well, I'm pretty sure I heard/read that somewhere and now I can't find it!!! Maybe it's not true...Sorry!

+Robert Redford
+Who can resist a young Elvis
+Heath Ledger - cutest I think in Knights Tale and Brokeback.

mudge,
You always struck me as more of a Donald O'Conner/Don Knotts/Marty Feldman kind of guy.

OH, YESSSSSSS.

Marty once told me that I was the apple of his good eye. 'sigh'

OHHHHH...christopher plummer. Good one.

I'll also admit to more than a bit of a crush on Old Bing Crosby in White Christmas. And The General at the Inn wasn't so bad either.

And, don't get me started about Don in that salt-and-pepper suit! Wow, could that boy dip in that suit. (I HATE Thelma Lou.)

Donald O'Conner? meh.

on a completely unrelated topic... it seems like this Mariah/Nick thing is ripe for an Ashton Kutcher tv show...

Originally Plummer was slated to do his own singing, but although he trained during the film and post-recorded his singing vocals, Robert Wise and the creative team felt his voice, although good, was not good enough alongside the excellent voice of Julie Andrews.[3] Plummer agreed with the assessment, so they enlisted Bill Lee to "ghost" Plummer's singing.

Doesn't say what songs, though.

OMILTF..preferably alive said "2. Alan Rickman"
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He'd be my number one. YUM YUM YUM YUM YUM YUM YUM YUM YUM YUM YUM YUM YUM

The thought of him whispering sweet nothings in my ear makes me all gushy inside.

OMILTF had a great list. I'm going to poach Sam Neill and Alan Rickman.

Rutger Hauer.
A young Rutger Hauer needs a young O.L. to whisper sweet nothings in his ear in Dutch, one of my secret, useless skills.
Mmmmm!

You can keep your young George Lewis and I'll take the present day Steven Spielberg!

And the rest of youse...shame on you adding young folks to your list. Dare to lust after the old folks--dead or alive!

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Oh, I'll keep him, all right!

I read somewhere that it was probably Clark Gable's dentures that caused the bad breath.

eeeeew!

Let's leave him quietly, peacefully dead.

Scarlett Johansson will be old someday and I will still think she's hawt. Of course, I may be dead by then.

Peter Sellers, I'm a sucker for guys who make me laugh.

Almost forgot Gary Oldman from The Professional.

Petal,

Yes, yes, yes. Peter Sellers in "The Mouse That Roared"!

He played three major parts - Tully Bascomb, the Grand Dutchess, and the Prime Minister(something for everyone).

what about Ralph Fiennes in the English Patient??? He is not old, but he is also not very young. Has anyone heard of Natalie Imbruglia the singer??? She is a beauty. There's this German actor Sebastian Koch who is quite a hunk.

Now that you mention Helen Mirren, I'm constantly bemused at how smashingly gorgeous Dame Judi Dench looks. If I can't have Rene Russo's body when I'm, um, past my prime, can I please have Dame Judi's regal presence?

One last one:

Gary Cooper (in "Friendly Persuasion")

Oh FINE, here's my only-old-or-dead list (Charlize, see you in 40 years):

1. Natalie Wood
2. Cyd Charisse
3. Lee Remick
4. Joanne Woodward
5. Susan Hayward

"Once were hawt, now are NOT"

Nick Nolte
Mickey Rourke
Any of the Baldwin Bros, except Alec
Val Kilmer

And, for the men...

Kim Cattrell (sp)
Carrie Fisher

HOW did I forget Gary Cooper?
And, okay, confession time. I loves me some Jackie Chan. And Bruce Lee. Zowie.

Best oldies, but goodies:

1) Gene Kelly (always and forever!)
2) Paul Newman
3) Cary Grant
4) Gregory Peck
5) William Holden

Ladies:

1) Greta Garbo
2) Marlene Dietrich
3) Audrey Hepburn
4) Ingrid Bergman
5) Grace Kelly

Reading these lists makes me wonder:

Do they not make them like that anymore?

Keep your Clark Gable. He's on my Suspected Smellers list.

Posted by: other liz | May 12, 2008 3:25 PM

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I may start working on my list as soon as I finish laughing. HAHAHAHA!!!

(Vivian Leigh did say he had bad breath for the kissing scenes in GWTW.)

Old men I lusted for in their (and my) youth --

Clint Eastwood and (yes, I admit it) Keith Richards.

That Gary Cooper was hot stuff. Did you know he had an affair w/ Patricia Neal and she had to have an abortion? It all started with "The Fountainhead."

Gotta have a guy who has a great deep voice and makes me laugh, such as:
Clint Eastwood
Sean Connery
Bogie
Gable (w/denture cleaner)
William Powell
James Garner

oh, and serious guys for good measure:
Jeremy Irons
Daniel Day-Lewis (a la Last of the Mohicans)

Charlton Heston in Benhur.

1. Tina Louise
2. Marilyn Monroe
3. Rhonda Fleming
4. Cyd Charisse
5. Natalie Wood

OK, if you're hot for the dead guys, here's my list:

1. Alan Bates (adored him in everything he did)
2. Gary Cooper
3. Gene Kelly
4. Cary Grant
5. Charlie Chaplin (young version quite handsome)
6. Leslie Howard
7. Gregory Peck
8. Henry Fonda
9. Jimmy Stewart
10. Oliver Reed

Is that enough necrophilia for today?

One more piece of necrophilia. The Bruce Lee reference reminded me:

Did anyone see The Crow? Brandon Lee was absolutely beautiful.

RKO anyone? - I'm with you on young Orson Welles, especially as Harry Lime in the Third Man

Can I get some love for the young Peter O'Toole?

Old or dead guys:

Malcolm McDowell
Patrick Stewart
Gregory Peck
Gene Kelly
Harrison Ford

old guys list
sean connery (drool)
elvis (young version)
clark gable (i'll hold my nose)
chuck conners (rifleman, xcuse sp)

i forgot peter graves

How about a young and pumped Arnold. There is something about Conan the Barbarian that does it for me!

Here's my extensive list. I know I cheated more than a little and threw in some not so old guys, like Elwes, Kilmer, Bean, Wong, etc. Sosume. (I could have been bad and included Clive Owen and a few others, but I figured they already got picked up, figuratively, by some of the other posters.)

--Alan Rickman (Best voice EVER, but John Hurt and James Earl Jones are up there with him.)
--Paul Newman (The Long, Hot Summer--yowza.)
--DDL (Last of the Mohicans era, not Gangs of New York.)
--Pierce Brosnan (Remington Steele onward--guy's still got it.)
--Cary Elwes (Lady Jane and Princess Bride era--not so old, but I hardly recognize him now.)
--Sean Bean (Sharpe.)
--Val Kilmer (Mad Martigan from Willow, not Iceman.)
--Russell Wong (Eat a Bowl of Tea--why isn't RW in more feature films?)
--Sam Neill (My Brilliant Career.)
--John Lone (The Last Emperor, M Butterfly.)
--Richard Chamberlain (Shogun!)
--Mel Gibson (Great eyes. Gallipoli, The Year of Living Dangerously.)
--Omar Sharif (But only in Lawrence of Arabia--I thought he was pretty creepy in everything after that.)
--Jon-Erik Hexum (Does anyone remember this model/actor who played Mac Harper on Cover Up? He died from an accidental shooting on the set. I doubt he would have ended up winning an Academy Award or anything, but he was young and gorgeous.)
--Jim Morrison
--Gregory Peck (The Big Country.)
--Charlton Heston (Also in The Big Country with Peck and Chuck Connors. Loved him in Ben Hur, too.)
--Cary Grant (Great young, simply stunning old.)
--Ronald Colman (A Tale of Two Cities, The Prisoner of Zenda, Raffles.)
--William Powell (My Man Godfrey, the Thin Man movies, Mister Roberts.)
--Tyrone Power (Prince of Foxes, Captain from Castile, The Black Swan.)

I also have a weakness for a lot of British film/TV actors like Ian Ogilvy (remember the Return of the Saint series, or even I, Claudius?), Simon Ward (The 4 Musketeers), Patrick Ryecart (Arthur the King/Merlin & the Sword), and, of course Anthony Andrews (all those wonderful period/costume movies, but especially The Scarlet Pimpernel). And I didn't have the hots for George Sanders, but all those witty and debonair characters he played made me think he'd be a fun date at the Ritz. As he ended up committing suicide, that probably wasn't the case in real life. But, then, we're judging all of these names based purely on the façade, aren't we?

Alex -- We share the same taste in men. I lean toward the Brit/Irish/Scots genre and would have added Liam Neeson to my list but he's not an OM yet. Also Aidan Quinn, Stephen Rea, Gerard Butler (the eyes have it), Robert Carlyle, Rufus Sewell, Hugh Grant, Kenneth Branagh, the list could go on forever.

I have one long time favorite: John Castle. He's a 'character actor' and you've probably seen him in BBC productions. He was in "Man of La Mancha" and "The Lion in Winter." He has aged quite well and still working in British TV. There's a website devoted to him by another fan who has gathered stage and screen photos.

OMILTF, I was *devastated* when John Castle/Postumus met his untimely end in I, Claudius. (I love that miniseries because I can pretend I'm watching it for its artistry--which I am, in part--rather than to ogle an entire generation of British male thespians in tunics.)

And agree with ALL your other sigh-worthy additions to my list.

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