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Posted at 10:42 AM ET, 08/18/2008

Comment Box: Should We Be Talking About Ali Lohan's "Shoe" Size?

By Liz Kelly
Comment Box

Isn't it kind of pervy to be talking about a 14 year-old's, um, shoes?

As I said in Thursday's chat - yes. To speak plainly, the debate over whether or not Ali Lohan's suddenly larger shoe size (ahem) has been aided by a surgeon is downright uncomfortable and I would go to great lengths to avoid bringing it up at, say, a family picnic. I wouldn't describe it as "pervy," though, so much as "skeevy." But be it pervy or skeevy or merely "oogy," I think - in the proper context - it is a conversation worth having.

And not just because we're talking about Ali Lohan here, who comes from notoriously tabloid-worthy stock (please see Lohan, Lindsay; Lohan, Dina; and Lohan, Michael). But because Ali, if she did have some work done, isn't alone. According to the American Society for Aesthetic Plastic Surgery (ASAPS), surgery is on the rise for teens under the age of 18. And while the bulk of those procedures is nose and ear reshaping (ear reshaping?), there is a growing number of teens undergoing breast augmentation - albeit with the consent of a parent or guardian.

And though conventional wisdom - and the FDA - frowns on breast augmentations for underage girls, something has been slowly creeping into our culture - and the lengths that one goes to achieve an unrealistic beauty ideal - that makes surgery seem like it isn't going that far. Perhaps shows like "Dr. 90210," that paint the surgeon and his scalpel as 21st century Lassies - arriving in the nick of time to rescue women (and men) from lives of hum-drummery and natural selection. Or, perhaps we should aim our pitchforks and torches at fashion magazines, which have turned photo retouching into an art - allowing the impossible to appear commonplace and us all to feel like walking warts compared to the hard-bodied titans staring back at us with their perfectly-shaped eyes and flawless, unaging faces.

So while I appreciate your question, I'm wondering if maybe we shouldn't be asking something else. Like, what kind of society have we become when we start cutting kids to fit some plastic ideal? Maybe we should be shaking our malformed fists at our own wrinkly, pock-marked reflections for allowing things to get to this point; for providing the fuel on which this beauty proliferation runs. For letting 14-year-old girls think that they only path to superstardom runs through a surgery suite.

I think I remember reading that Isaac Hayes was a Scientologist, but yet his funeral is being held at a Presbyterian Church? Can you explain that?

Actually it's a memorial service for Hayes, slated to take place at Memphis's Hope Presbyterian church today. According to church officials and members of Hayes's family, the service is not intended to be religious and is being held at the church only because it has enough room and a sweet audio/visual system for use during the event. Still, the church was bombarded, according to the Memphis Commercial Appeal, with calls and e-mails from outraged folks who didn't like to think of a little Scientology being mixed in with their Protestantism. And, contrary to earlier reports, organizers say a Scientology minister will not be on hand for the event.

On your blog there is growing frustration by people who actually want to comment on celebrities and the "cool kids" who consider Celebritology to be their own private club. Are you following all this?

Can't we all just get along? Listen, there's room enough for everyone in the comments section - a section I like to think of as my own branded night club - a night club with no bouncer and no closing time and no private section for "cool kids." As long as everyone plays nice, I'll keep providing the background entertainment and you guys can keep talking. Remember, be you a comments section regular or someone with an irrepressible opinion about Ashley Olsen, what unites us all is our attraction (as students of pop culture, of course) to celebrity gossip. Now let's talk about Ali Lohan and put our differences behind us.

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By Liz Kelly  | August 18, 2008; 10:42 AM ET
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Oooo...First!

Posted by: WDC 21113 | August 18, 2008 10:48 AM | Report abuse

Since Liz didn't post a name with the tattle-tale comment, how will the regulars know who to stuff into a locker?


Plastic surgery, sigh. I think it's a shame that women aren't able to age anymore, and wish we could some celebs actually look their age. And yet, if I had an extra 30K or so just lying around, I'd be making an appointment.

The man lifts are almost more oogy than the women. Can we have more discussion of the guys who've been reshaped, please? (Nick Cage, H. Ford, Robin Williams, et al.)

Posted by: epony | August 18, 2008 10:54 AM | Report abuse

Oh please, those whiners don't want to comment on celebrities. they just want to bash the regulars. If you want to just discuss celebrities, no one is stopping you.

Yes, it is all in the context about Ali's shoes. If you are an older male discussing them outside this column, it is pervy. Otherwise it is skeevy.

I agree Liz. There has long been something wrong with our society wherein we all try to look like models. Who don't look like models themselves without the makeup, the clothes, the lighting and the airbrushing. Some surgeries to fix injuries or serious defects is all well and good. Otherwise, live with the God gave you. I figure all the Priscilla Presley's and Melanie Griffith's are karma's revenge for messing with nature.

Posted by: ep | August 18, 2008 10:59 AM | Report abuse

Let's be honest. We shouldn't be talking about Ali Lohan whole or in part at all.

Posted by: Capt Buzzkill | August 18, 2008 11:01 AM | Report abuse

Ali Lohan's "shoes" are fair game. Whether she had surgery or was using tube socks, she clearly wanted people to notice her chest. Why would she have done if she didn't want people to talk about them. Ali and her mom have a "reality show" thats only reason to exist is to promote Ali as a celebrity. If she wants the positive comments about her "talent" she will have to live with the negative comments as well. The utterly contrived events on her show prove she has been more than willing to promote herself anyway possible.

Posted by: Cleveland Brown | August 18, 2008 11:07 AM | Report abuse

I'm with Buzzkill. She isn't a pseudo-celebrity. She's entirely artifice and a very sad story in the making to boot.

As for her "shoes", I still say padded pushup bra. Though, I wouldn't put anything past the elder Lohan.

Posted by: EricS | August 18, 2008 11:15 AM | Report abuse

I have to say, I'm a bit honored that my comment in last week's chat was featured so prominently in today's Comment Box. And while I do think its pervy to be talking about a 14 year-old's "shoe size", I totally get what you're saying about unrealistic ideals.

Posted by: Stuck@Work | August 18, 2008 11:17 AM | Report abuse

I figure all the Priscilla Presley's and Melanie Griffith's are karma's revenge for messing with nature.

Posted by: ep | August 18, 2008 10:59 AM

May I add Meg Ryan to the karmic victim's list?

Posted by: jes | August 18, 2008 11:27 AM | Report abuse

Liz, you could encourage the on-topic conversation (as opposed to the banter of the Lizard Island variety) if you would make an appearance a few times during the day. Validate the on-topic posters with a smidge of attention and feedback. Answer questions that are posed directly to you on the topic of celebrity.
I don't mind the insider banter as much as some, but I do confess to a bit of annoyance when I read the comments at the end of the day, and realize that I've scrolled past 20+ remarks about the tiki bar and ponies (still don't know what that means) and seen nothing at all about Madonna's creepy, waxy, veiny arms.

Posted by: WDC | August 18, 2008 11:40 AM | Report abuse

A 14-year-old who obviously doesn't know any better shouldn't be subjected to the same sort of attention that a 22-year-old can expect. A society ought to protect its children, even when they try on the trappings of the adults. WE're the ones who should know better. Not that child.

Posted by: to Cleveland Brown | August 18, 2008 11:43 AM | Report abuse

Ali Lohan isn't a typical 14 year old high school girl. Her "job" is to attract attention from the paparazzi and fans. She is actively encouraging all the attention and is not a victim of intrusive tabloids.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 18, 2008 11:54 AM | Report abuse

JEN DOES NOT NEED SHOE ENHANCEments. She is wonderufl and a seriurs acturess with powers beyond your wildest dreames!!! She has her OWN WATER and doesn't have an idiot 14 year old sister to stick pins into!!!
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A PHOTO OF JEN ON A PONY!!!
luv ya!! JEN 4ever!

Posted by: luvjen | August 18, 2008 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Ali Lohan ripped off Tori Spellings boobs!

Posted by: Sasquatch | August 18, 2008 12:03 PM | Report abuse

please know that not all memphians are as ignorant as the ones that commented on the isaac hayes article...

every day is a bkd on the CA boards.

Posted by: b | August 18, 2008 12:08 PM | Report abuse

watching the live video of people arriving for isaac's memorial service... rev. al sharpton and jessie jackson are there. they aren't interviewing everybody and the player doesn't go full-size, so it's hard to see the faces of everybody. supposedly wesley snipes, richard roundtree and possibly even tom cruise were at a very private, almost unreported funeral service yesterday.

apparently, they are not allowing any live tv from inside, but the thing is supposed to run until 2 p.m. central.

Posted by: b | August 18, 2008 12:13 PM | Report abuse

What we should be doing is not talking about Ali Lohan at all but rather about her mother, a woman who makes colossally bad parenting decisions.

What parent with any sense encourages his/her under-18 daughter to have cosmetic surgery?! Let's start there. Doesn't Social Services have an office nearby? Someone rescue this minor child and her little brother, quick!

This reminds me of the "pervy" comments when Daniel Radcliffe did "Equus" and everyone was commenting on his body. Leave these kids alone -- they're young, and shouldn't be held to adult standards (though Daniel seems to handle things better than Ali by a vast margin).

As for the photo retouching, that actually may be a plus (from a teaching perspective) because the fact of Photoshopping is more widely known. Therefore, these days most (?) people should be less inclined to be swayed by magazine covers because the evidence of fakery is all the more apparent.

Posted by: td | August 18, 2008 12:24 PM | Report abuse

A friend of mine had ear reconstruction years and years before I knew her. It had something to do with the way they protruded from her head and the size of the lobes that posed some sort of health risk. Too lazy to Google, but I'm sure there's something on it... Anyway, she casually mentioned it when showing me some childhool picture. I haven't heard a word of it since and never thought to ask.

As for the shoes, while I think the Lohan lifestyle opens them up for commentary, I simply refuse to give them a further second of my time. I'm reminded of my elementary school days when we decorated our back packs with so-called "whitty" buttons. My favorite read, "If I promise to miss you, will you go away?". Quite apropos...

Posted by: cee_jay | August 18, 2008 12:31 PM | Report abuse

Plastic surgery, sigh. I think it's a shame that women aren't able to age anymore, and wish we could some celebs actually look their age. And yet, if I had an extra 30K or so just lying around, I'd be making an appointment.

Posted by: epony | August 18, 2008 10:54 AM
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Necks. Surgery still can't do anything for your neck wrinkles. Hands too. Until they can correct the neck and hands, you'll still be left with a youthful face atop a chicken neck. You'll only have your wrinkly hands to cover it (unless you wear turtlenecks all the time.)

And the funny thing of it all is that for so many years, these stars backed themselves in the sun to get beautiful tans. Now they're tanned like leather and running to the plastic surgeon.

Posted by: MoCoSnarky | August 18, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Wait a minute, Ali Lohan? The 14 year old whose mother allowed her to audition for a porn director? Whose mother allowed an adult male to meet with her alone in her bedroom? Whose mother just received a "mother of the year" award? Oh. Hell. Yeah. We should be talking about these lunatics and the may or may not boob job. This what this blog is all about.

Posted by: Where's luvlinsey for this? | August 18, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

OK feel sketchy for asking this but honestly I just want to see what all the hubbub is about - did Liz post the pic of Alilo that started all of this.

Posted by: bahston | August 18, 2008 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Wait a minute...

Cleveland Brown hinted that Ali Lohan has "talent". I need proof. I've heard her "extreme mix-over" single and it was bad enough to make a showerhead cringe. Vocal range obviously isn't a Lohan trait. I've also seen about 30 seconds of "Living Lohan" and it really made me wish they just plain weren't living at all. Cleveland, you can't make outlandish claims like that without proof. I will concede that Lindsay has talents beyond drinking and drugs. She was once a successful and talented actress. Key there being WAS! Ali Lohan has proven herself to be little more than a fame-wh0re, just like Mama Lohan. But fear not Ali, when you turn 16, Mama Lohan will be there to introduce you to clubbing. After all, it's the Lohan way!

Posted by: Brutal | August 18, 2008 12:57 PM | Report abuse

watching the live video of people arriving for isaac's memorial service... rev. al sharpton and jessie jackson are there. they aren't interviewing everybody and the player doesn't go full-size, so it's hard to see the faces of everybody. supposedly wesley snipes, richard roundtree and possibly even tom cruise were at a very private, almost unreported funeral service yesterday.

apparently, they are not allowing any live tv from inside, but the thing is supposed to run until 2 p.m. central.

Posted by: b | August 18, 2008 12:13 PM
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Alas, it won't be as great a spectacle as James Brown's was.

Posted by: MoCoSnarky | August 18, 2008 12:57 PM | Report abuse

I was at an event last week where three women, older than me (48) so they were definitely in their late 50s and more likely in their early 60s. Each had had a good deal of cosmetic surgery done on their faces and chests. However, in the picture I took of the three women, you immediately notice not how "youthful" they look, but how old their necks and hands look. By "fixing" the gentle flow of nature on their faces and breasts, they merely call attention to the stuff that can't be fixed. And in the case of Ali Lohan that would be talent or personality.
End of anti-cosmetic surgery rant.

*I'm okay with the occasional mention of a tiki bar and afternoon virtual cocktails, and I like the sometimes 'inside' nature of the comments. But at the end of the day this is Celebritology, not ponyology (much to my dismay). We are here to comment on celebrities and I personally pledge to do my utmost to snark on them rather than anonymous posters.

Posted by: methinks | August 18, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Oh yeah, if Ali's assets were enhanced, I wouldn't be shocked. Anything Mama needs to do to keep her name in lights will get done. Even if it could be detrimental to the longterm health of her 14 year-old daughter. Dina Lohan is yet another argument for requiring people to get a license to breed.

Posted by: Brutal | August 18, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

The whole thing about snarking and gnashing celeb gossip is pervy by definition.

It's a shame that 14 year old girls are members of the Celebrity baliwick. But, there you are: pervy.

I think that's why we Lizards (old and new) sometimes "change the subject" if only to clear our palates from the taste of perv.

Posted by: Curmudgeon feels SMAME for being such a perv | August 18, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

I didn't read my comments before I posted and that first sentence...uh, it's a mess.
Anyway, you get my drift...

Posted by: methinks | August 18, 2008 1:06 PM | Report abuse

MoCo,
Probably not, yet i still wish i could have attended both!

Here's a question: Do artificially embiggened er, shoes have same effect on your back as a naturally embiggened ones? Most of the folks I know who come by their size 11s naturally have horrendous back problems as a result, and wish they had gotten them reduced at some point.

Maybe silcon or whatever they use now is lighter than the real stuff.

Posted by: b | August 18, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

b,

That's the way it works, the ladies with bigger feet all want smaller feet and the ones with small feet want bigger ones. My wife just got her "clown feet" reduced to a normal size about 9 months ago and is much happier (not to mention perkier!). She no longer has back and neck pain.

Posted by: Brutal | August 18, 2008 1:15 PM | Report abuse

has anyone seen luvlinsey? i miss the horrible misspelling and inane commentary.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 18, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

I agree with WDC... definitely an outsider who is confused by all the insider comments. But at the end of the day I love celeb gossip so I'll be back.

"I don't mind the insider banter as much as some, but I do confess to a bit of annoyance when I read the comments at the end of the day, and realize that I've scrolled past 20+ remarks about the tiki bar and ponies (still don't know what that means) and seen nothing at all about Madonna's creepy, waxy, veiny arms."

Posted by: jpow = anonymous? | August 18, 2008 1:22 PM | Report abuse

That's the trouble with blogs. You get all these repeat posters....

Posted by: Red Dragon | August 18, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Brutal, I'd love to have something done about my "clown feet". Any chance the unbiggening is covered by insurance? How was your wife's recovery?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 18, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

JEN DOES NOT NEED SHOE ENHANCEments. She is wonderufl and a seriurs acturess with powers beyond your wildest dreames!!! She has her OWN WATER and doesn't have an idiot 14 year old sister to stick pins into!!!
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A PHOTO OF JEN ON A PONY!!!
luv ya!! JEN 4ever!

Posted by: luvjen | August 18, 2008 12:00 PM

It's over, John. Move on.

Posted by: ADHD | August 18, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Noticing a 14-year-old's shoes is FAR less skeevy/creepy than slicing them open & shoving foreign objects in there. I really don't think it should be legal to perform that surgery on girls younger than 18.

Posted by: LittleMissMuskrat | August 18, 2008 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous,

Generally you'll find no such luck, but her clown feet were causing severe back problems (that were heavily documented) and the insurance company surprisingly covered it. Her recovery took a while, but she's had no ill effects. She had a major reduction (DDD to C), so she has some scarring, but overall she did well.

Posted by: Brutal | August 18, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Hi, just checking in -- as requested -- to say hello and remind everyone to please talk about celebrities.

There, I've said it.

Posted by: Liz Kelly | August 18, 2008 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Regarding un-embiggening the shoes, density is taken into consideration. Found this out, because I have two friends that have clown feet, same size shoe, and one was able to get insurance to cover turning them into normal-able-to-wear-nice-heels shoes, the other was not. In addition to freakily similar shoes, they also had the same insurance because they worked together. One just apparently had combat clown shoes, and the other had open toed, light weight slingbacks (I really could not bring myself to call them flip-flops...that would have been WRONG!).

As far as 14-year-old-shoes, I honestly consider that near child endangerment. That's a major surgery, on a young lady that has not finished growing. If this really happened, and her mother really allowed it (or freaky father, for that matter), I wonder if they have any idea what this will do to her as she grows older, and continues her natural physical maturation process. And I wonder at the ethics of a doctor that would do this without knowing what the potential long term effects would be.

Posted by: Organic Gal | August 18, 2008 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Ali Lohan ripped off Tori Spellings boobs!

Posted by: Sasquatch | August 18, 2008 12:03 PM
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This just sounds so terribly. . . painful!

Posted by: alex | August 18, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

"Perhaps you didn't hear me the first time. I said I want Ali to be a BIG star."

-Dina Lohan

Posted by: Anonymous | August 18, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

I agree with you Organic Gal. Calling them flip-flops would have been wrong. Funny as all get out, but wrong.

Posted by: Brutal | August 18, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Hi, just checking in -- as requested -- to say hello and remind everyone to please talk about celebrities.

There, I've said it.

Posted by: Liz Kelly | August 18, 2008 2:48 PM

That's right, Liz. And you'd better do it at least once EVERY DAY for EACH POST.

Oh, sorry. And something something John Mayer.

Posted by: Sully | August 18, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

One just apparently had combat clown shoes, and the other had open toed, light weight slingbacks (I really could not bring myself to call them flip-flops...that would have been WRONG!).
Posted by: Organic Gal | August 18, 2008 2:51 PM

To whom may I bill my new keyboard and mouse?

Posted by: BxNY, whose clown shoes are proportionate to the rest of her | August 18, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

There has long been something wrong with our society wherein we all try to look like models. Who don't look like models themselves without the makeup, the clothes, the lighting and the airbrushing.

Posted by: ep | August 18, 2008 10:59 AM

ep, that is sometimes the case, but as un-politically correct as it is to say this, many models really ARE that beautiful before the makeup, hair, clothes, lighting and photoshopping. Some of these girls are just...a whole different species. Even the ones not yet making a hundred grand a day. This one, for example:

http://www.sangrealjeans.com/

Makeup was barely necessary. Those are her real blue/green eyes, genuine c-cup shoes, naturally tawny skin tone, unembiggened lips, natural hair, and she eats like a person twice her size without putting on an ounce (and no, she did not retire to the bathroom after lunch). She is just a very fortunate product of genetics. And the camera loves her. Along with a good percentage of the crew when the topless shots got done.

Having said that, it amounts to totally agreeing with you that putting these women up as a STANDARD of beauty is absurd. They ain't like thee and me, and anyone not born with it is kidding themselves that they can attain it.

Posted by: hermespal | August 18, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

The Eagles had Ali Lohan's number 25 years ago:

You just want someone to talk to
They just wanna get their hands on you
You get whatever you choose
Oh, no, you can’t do that,
Once you started wearin’ those shoes.

Posted by: Sasquatch | August 18, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse

many models really ARE that beautiful before the makeup, hair, clothes, lighting and photoshopping.

Mr. Parker has commented *repeatedly* on the beauty of many of the women competing in this summer's Olympics. Well, since I can notice the men, why not?

Posted by: Nosy Parker | August 18, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Hermespal was also commenting on the beauty of many of the women in the Olympics. He usually waits until I've already said something about whichever one and then fervently agrees. ;-)

Posted by: hermespal | August 18, 2008 4:46 PM | Report abuse

You know, I've got a 14-year-old whose shoe size is changing weekly. We've had to go shoe shopping 3 times this year. This has occurred to someone else, right? As a self-respecting Celebritologist and no Dina Lohan, I assure you, it's all about the teenage hormones.

Posted by: other liz | August 18, 2008 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Having been in the same "shoes growing too quickly for their own good" situation, prompting the 8th Grade nuns to have a girls-only chat about wearing clothes that are inappropriate, I commiserate with *other liz's* daughter and all BigFoots everywhere.

(whew - if that wasn't a run-on sentance why am I out of breath?)

Having to shop in Clown Stores all my life has been discouraging. Large-sized shoes aren't all that swell.

(ha! I said "swell".)

Posted by: Curmudgeon knows what it's like to tip over too easily | August 18, 2008 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of boobs...er...I mean shoes, check these out.

http://www.nypost.com/photos/galleries/gossip/celebp/20080815_boob_job/photo01.htm

Posted by: jake e. poo | August 18, 2008 5:14 PM | Report abuse

I haven't seen before/maybe after pix of Ali Lohan, so can't venture I guess, but I think that it's wrong to let/encourage a 14-year-old to have shoe augmentation surgery. I mean, she's still developing, she's just junior high age, and who's to say that she wouldn't, uh, get big shoes via nature?

Gawd. I really want someone to come up with a good estimate of the weight/volume of all the implants, restalyne, botox, etc., that has been dispensed in LA, and then give us a graphic. For instance, "60,000 lbs. of fillers were used in LA in 2007, vs. 20,000 lbs. of Snapple." That way, we can quantify the degree of plasticity that your average celebutant has achieved. Joan Rivers, 97.2 percent plastic!

I think medical ethics should forbid elective plastic surgery on minors, except in cases where there is a major disfigurement that is present. At 14, you don't even know who you are yet. You should be you for a while before you go altering the landscape.

Posted by: NW DC | August 18, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

To: NW DC and Elias Howe -

Here's where my other invention ought to be mentioned.

(Miley Cyrus)

The idea is a process rather than a piece of equipment. I don't even have a name for it yet.

(Sara Jessica Parker)

Being that I am the proud owner of some Grade AAA *fat* that is lovingly stored on and around my hips, I figured that I'd go into business with a fat-sucker (one of those Doctors that do, well, fat sucking).

We'd suck this great fat and implant it directly into people who want embiggening done to their lips, cheekbones, shoes, butts, whatever.

The *fat* resource is totally renewable, thanks to Cheetoes, while being organic, pure, and carefully nurtured.

Wall-lah!

(Owen Wilson)

Good for me, good for the doctor, good for the embiggenee.

(K-Fed)

Now, all I need is a product name . . . I figured you Lizards could help out.

(Paul Newman)

Posted by: Curmudgeon plans to strike it rich | August 18, 2008 5:27 PM | Report abuse

BBC America ran a couple of documentaries about ladies with large shoes and ladies with small shoes and the problems both sets were having with said shoes. They were really interesting and not skeevy. Unfortunately, the same can't be said of the narrator for the commercials; he sounds like he could make a shopping list sound perverted. :P

Posted by: CentrevilleMom | August 18, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Time to put on my shoes.

Ta-ta for now!

Posted by: Sasquatch | August 18, 2008 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Hi from Carnival Glory. On the way to St. Thomas, then St. Maarten. Fortunately, we were out of the path of the hurricane, but my home in Palm Beach County might be toast. Since it's $1.00 per minute for internet use on the boat, I'll continue with the snark next week.

Posted by: LLL | August 18, 2008 5:41 PM | Report abuse

LLL, make sure you wear your deck shoes, and save your receipt, I'm sure Liz will reimburse you for your travel expenses (if they are snark related).

Posted by: Dorkus | August 18, 2008 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Curmudgeon, can I humbly request that the words "embiggenee" and "K-Fed" not be used so close together? I don't think it's safe.

Posted by: CentrevilleMom | August 18, 2008 6:09 PM | Report abuse

Wouldn't it be unethical for a doctor to perform this kind of surgery on a still developing 14 year old? I find it hard to believe they could find a doc willing to do that!

Posted by: Jus' sayin' | August 18, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

I'm hoping/assuming that Ali is just going through a normal growth spurt. As several others have noted, it wouldn't be unusual for a girl her age.

Unfortunately, it also wouldn't be unusual for Dina Lohan or others of her ilk to encourage or allow their meal tickets (I mean, daughters) to get cosmetic surgery even at ridiculously young age. It's sad that we're suspicious, but we've learned the hard way.

I'd also like to say that I also don't get the attraction for the large shoes. I'm 5'8" and wear a size 8/10 jeans (I know, I nead to exercise more)--but I can barely find tops (er, sandals) to fit me. And forget about buying cute lingerie at Victoria's Secret; they don't even make my size. And the back pain is excruciating. I think Brutal's wife has the right idea. (It's what my sister, who is a size 4, and bigger than I am, did.)

OK--I'm ready to be rebuked for going off-topic.

Posted by: anon for this | August 18, 2008 6:41 PM | Report abuse

Hi Liz-

Since body image is one of my favorite topics, I have to chime in here. With so many media shots showing that if you don't look perfect (whatever that might mean-- who knows these days-- maybe plastic= perfect?), you're fair game. I mean, just look at all the hype over Jennifer Love Hewitt and Keira Knightley lately:

http://drrobyn.wordpress.com/2008/08/15/why-girls-are-confused-about-body-size-body-image-messages/

http://kissmyassets.wordpress.com/2008/08/01/keira-knightley-says-no-to-digital-breast-enhancement/

Girls are ridiculed if they don't look "perfect" and then celebrated when they starve themselves, get the surgery, and "thank the lord" fit into that ridiculous size 0 (or is it 00 or 000 now?). Let's just get the scalpel at birth, shall we? Who wants baby fat in all the wrong places?

With all those strapped in-pushed up-thinned out celebs showing us that it's "oh so much better to look like a cryogenically frozen pussy-cat doll" than to have a bulge where one shouldn't or *gasp* to be flat where one "should" be round, it doesn't surprise me at all that these young teens are looking to puff themselves up to fit the "ideal."

http://kissmyassets.wordpress.com/2008/04/14/what-kind-of-media-makes-an-impact-on-girls%e2%80%99-body-image/

This is why there's no cure for cancer. We're spending way too much time wondering who should get surgery on perfectly healthy parts of the body instead of how to fix the unhealthy parts!

Talk to you soon-

Dr. Robyn

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