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Posted at 8:38 AM ET, 11/15/2010

Former president Bill Clinton films 'Hangover 2' cameo

By Liz Kelly

Clinton on set in Thailand. (Photo courtesy TMZ.com)

What do Mike Tyson and Bill Clinton have in common? Well, aside from the prominent face tattoos, both can apparently now boast that they've logged screen time in a "Hangover" movie.

While Tyson made his memorable appearance in the first movie, ex-president Clinton recorded a brief cameo for "The Hangover 2" on Saturday in Bangkok, according to People.com. TMZ snagged pix of Clinton on set, reporting that extra security was added for Clinton.

The Bradley Cooper/Zach Galifianakis sequel production made news earlier this month when Mel Gibson was dismissed from a cameo role after protests from cast and crew. His spot was quickly refilled by Liam Neeson, so any hopes that Clinton might be taking on Gibson's intended role as a Bangkok tattoo artist are likely dashed. We're guessing Clinton will appear as himself. The ex-president was apparently in Thailand already, delivering a speech on clean energy.

Paul Giamatti is also rumored to be joining the cast, reports Deadline.com.

Sources: People.com, TMZ

By Liz Kelly  | November 15, 2010; 8:38 AM ET
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Comments

Liz - it is NOT "President" Clinton. The U.S. has ONE president, and that is President Obama. All former presidents are referred to by the title they had before becoming president; in this case it would be Mr. Clinton. Bill Clinton is NOT the president. Please speak to Miss Manners, she has said this over, and over, and over.... Please correct it in the headline.

Posted by: agog1 | November 15, 2010 8:58 AM | Report abuse

Hangover 2 is taking place in Thailand? Gee, I guess the last movie wasn't offensive enough to Asians so they decided to take it up a notch?

Posted by: distance88 | November 15, 2010 9:43 AM | Report abuse

Actually, agog, the term "President" is one that remains with a former president for life. That's why you hear sitting presidents refer to his predecessors as "President Clinton/Bush," etc.

Posted by: k1634 | November 15, 2010 10:01 AM | Report abuse

agog1 needed some education. Thanks k1634.

Posted by: Blarney | November 15, 2010 10:25 AM | Report abuse

Hey agog1, it's OK to be wrong. Just don't try to correct others who don't share your ignorance.

Posted by: tomguy1 | November 15, 2010 11:00 AM | Report abuse

Actually, k1634 and Blarney, you are both incorrect. As we are a democracy and vote for the president every four years, the title "President" is not one granted for life.
As Miss Manners puts it, "There's only One Mr. President. The sitting president should be addressed as Mr. President. His wife is addressed, both in writing and in speaking, as Mrs. Obama. No first name, neither his nor hers, is used.
The former president is correctly addressed as Gov. Bush." [as his previous title before becoming president was Governor]
Wikipedia states, "Continued use of a title depends on the office: Offices of which there is only one at a time (e.g., President, Mayor, or Speaker) are only used by the current office holder; titles for offices of which there are many concurrent office holders (e.g., Ambassador, Senator, or Captain) are retained for life."
Wordpress states it clearly, and then puts it in a table:
"Once out of office, the former president resumes his (or, someday, her) place as a private citizen, and is addressed as simply "Mr." Thus references to Bill Clinton nowadays should refer to him as "Mr. Clinton" or "Governor Clinton" (since he is former governor of Arkansas).
This rule seems quite easy to master, [as long as one isn't a close minded patronizing demagogue] and is to be found in various places.
For a former President:
Letter address: The Honorable John J.Jones
Letter greeting: Dear Mr. (Mrs., Ms.) Jones
Spoken greeting: Mr. (or Mrs., Ms.) Jones
Introduction: The Honorable John J. Jones".
There are many more references, all of which indicate you are incorrect. Hey, I didn't make it up, I'm just providing some needed education.

Posted by: agog1 | November 15, 2010 11:02 AM | Report abuse

I'm going to back up agog1 here. According to Miss Manners, there is only one president at a time. This tradition dates back to George Washington: after he retired, he insisted that others call him "General Washington." He felt that bestowing a permanent title of "President" was too much like giving him the title of "King." Therefore, it's still considered protocol to call a former president by his previous job title, in this case, "Governor Clinton."

However, no one follows this convention any more: it's gone the way of responding to R.S.V.P.s. Poor Miss Manners.

Posted by: Katherine4 | November 15, 2010 11:08 AM | Report abuse

Emily Post and The Etiquette School Of Ohio agree with The Gogster. (There's no word on whether or not either institution offered an, "in your face, biatches!" to anyone who disagreed.)

http://www.emilypost.com/forms-of-address/titles/118-addressing-a-former-us-president

http://etiquetteschoolofohio.com/?p=312

Posted by: byoolin1 | November 15, 2010 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Agog is correct in citing Miss Manners that there's only one POTUS (and VPOTUS) at a time.

Former Presidents are addressed by the highest non-unique title they've held. Thus, after they left office:

Governors George W. Bush, Bill Clinton, Ronald Reagan and Jimmy Carter
General Dwight Eisenhower
Senators Richard Nixon, Lyndon Johnson and Harry S Truman
Representative Gerald Ford
Director (CIA) George H.W. Bush

Posted by: Nosy_Parker | November 15, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Did Liz not initially have "former" in the title?

FWIW, it seems that neither Emily Post nor Miss Manners live in the real word. The evolving roles or men and women don't seem to be acknowledged in their advice.

Posted by: MzFitz | November 15, 2010 12:14 PM | Report abuse

MzFitz, I don't know whether Liz amended the headline.

BTW, this weekend I spotted a personalized Virginia license plate that read HUG FITZ. Was that you?

Posted by: Nosy_Parker | November 15, 2010 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Liz - it is NOT "President" Clinton. The U.S. has ONE president, and that is President Obama. All former presidents are referred to by the title they had before becoming president; in this case it would be Mr. Clinton. Bill Clinton is NOT the president. Please speak to Miss Manners, she has said this over, and over, and over.... Please correct it in the headline.

Posted by: agog1
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Whatever. Former Presidents are like former boxing Champions. Even after they are retired they still retain the title. In any case this isn't something to get your panties in a bunch over.

Posted by: 6thsense79 | November 15, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Thanks all for your responses, and sorry for the ill-directed snark.
you all crack me up.
[and yes, Liz added 'former' to the headline after my initial gripe.]

Posted by: agog1 | November 15, 2010 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Sorry Nosy, it wasn't me. I'm too cheap to splurge on vanity plates, not to mention uncomfortable hugging strangers.

Posted by: MzFitz | November 15, 2010 2:42 PM | Report abuse

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