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Flashback: Does Michigan Matter to Clinton?

Following a report from the Los Angeles Times, the Drudge Report's Matt Drudge has posted an audio clip on his YouTube channel from a Oct. 11, 2007 New Hampshire Public Radio interview with Hillary Clinton, during which she was asked about the Michigan primary:

"I personally did not think it made any difference, whether or not my name was on the ballot. You know, it's clear, this election they're having is not going to count for anything."

You can download the entire interview on the New Hampshire Public Radio Web site.

Clinton's comments in the October interview are quite different from what she said Wednesday in Detroit, when she encouraged Barack Obama to join her in calling for a re-vote:

"Senator Obama speaks passionately on the campaign trail about empowering the American people. Today I am asking him to match those words with actions," Clinton said.

-- Ed O'Keefe

By Ed O'Keefe |  March 20, 2008; 10:33 AM ET Hillary Rodham Clinton
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yeah, and Obama said he never heard the racist comments from his preacher.

Posted by: Dave | March 20, 2008 12:18 PM

LIAR LIAR LIAR BARACK

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72B3tUAqpo4

Obviously, Barack Obama is a coward. He isn't a man we all know that much. We've first witnessed him use his mother as a tool of his disposal to denegrate in whatever manner he determines he decides is best for his purpose describing her as an anti-christ, a woman who had little scruples and actually treating her in rather a hateful manner.

His next victim is his Grandmother another white woman whom he says of course finanically helped him through his youth and supported him in this way, but she was after all a bigot. Is there no shame in Barack Obama and his use of his family? It is little wonder he hasn't done this to his sister, but then she isn't White.

We have not doubt why he consistently plays the race card on Senator Clinton now, Geraldine Ferraro, President Clinton. We know why he is racist because for 20 years he has sat in the middle of this racist filth that he calls a "church" and listened to that hate speech.

When I think of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., He's in a class by himself so far from the likes of Barack Obama. Barack Obama is in the league of Louis Farrakhan and Jeramiah Wright and David Duke and Timothy McVeigh. You represent what America isn't. We aren't you, we are better than you.

Go back to Illinois Barack Obama. Take you children and wife Michelle to some better place and learn not to hate. Try to find a little pride in more than your black liberation value system or whatever you call you racist movement. You dont convince any right thinking person out here. No indepent thinking person actually believes you.

Do you see your numbers dropping? Can you feel the tide turning? Yeah, because it was all a LIE. One big bad lie!

I'd be ashamed to take my children to that place you call a church and have my children exposed to that hate speech. NO WONDER YOU HAVE HAD A DIFFICULT TIME FINDING PRIDE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72B3tUAqpo4

Posted by: UWBizKid | March 20, 2008 12:19 PM

LIAR LIAR LIAR BARACK

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72B3tUAqpo4

Obviously, Barack Obama is a coward. He isn't a man we all know that much. We've first witnessed him use his mother as a tool of his disposal to denegrate in whatever manner he determines he decides is best for his purpose describing her as an anti-christ, a woman who had little scruples and actually treating her in rather a hateful manner.

His next victim is his Grandmother another white woman whom he says of course finanically helped him through his youth and supported him in this way, but she was after all a bigot. Is there no shame in Barack Obama and his use of his family? It is little wonder he hasn't done this to his sister, but then she isn't White.

We have not doubt why he consistently plays the race card on Senator Clinton now, Geraldine Ferraro, President Clinton. We know why he is racist because for 20 years he has sat in the middle of this racist filth that he calls a "church" and listened to that hate speech.

When I think of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., He's in a class by himself so far from the likes of Barack Obama. Barack Obama is in the league of Louis Farrakhan and Jeramiah Wright and David Duke and Timothy McVeigh. You represent what America isn't. We aren't you, we are better than you.

Go back to Illinois Barack Obama. Take you children and wife Michelle to some better place and learn not to hate. Try to find a little pride in more than your black liberation value system or whatever you call you racist movement. You dont convince any right thinking person out here. No indepent thinking person actually believes you.

Do you see your numbers dropping? Can you feel the tide turning? Yeah, because it was all a LIE. One big bad lie!

I'd be ashamed to take my children to that place you call a church and have my children exposed to that hate speech. NO WONDER YOU HAVE HAD A DIFFICULT TIME FINDING PRIDE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72B3tUAqpo4

Posted by: UWBizKid | March 20, 2008 12:19 PM

It's not so sleazy that she's done a complete 180 here. That unfortunately is politics. She really doesn't have a choice. However, she crosses the line when she tries to blame Obama for not doing more to encourage a re-vote. In doing this, she suggests that the person who followed the rules, and who has had a consistent stance on this all along is the one who is really at fault. While being consistent and following the rules does work to Obama's advantage in this case, he is never-the-less doing something that desperately needs to be done in politics: being consistent and following the rules. To suggest that this is somehow a fault is truly sleazy.

Posted by: Zach | March 20, 2008 12:20 PM

Wow....that could sink her bid right there!

Posted by: Calvin | March 20, 2008 12:22 PM

Like the Bushes, the Clintons create their own "reality". Why is the Washington Post not paying much attention to the White House records released yesterday, that shows Clinton is a liar?

Posted by: Janet | March 20, 2008 12:22 PM

Like the Bushes, the Clintons create their own "reality". Why is the Washington Post not paying much attention to the White House records released yesterday, that shows Clinton is a liar?

Posted by: Janet | March 20, 2008 12:22 PM

I think what she said last October is entirely different than saying that Michigan voters should not get a chance to vote. So the implication that she did not care what Michigan voters believed is not correct, just that if they voted in violation of DNC rules they would not count for anything. If Sen. Obama believes in voting rights for all, he will agree to a revote in both Michigan and Florida. If he does not so agree, then I think voters and super delegates will understand that he is driven by politics and not as pure as his campaign would like them to believe.

Posted by: Joe | March 20, 2008 12:23 PM

yet more proof this witch will say anything to get elected. Do we really want four more years of sleeze?

Posted by: Shrillary Is a Sleezebag | March 20, 2008 12:31 PM

yet more proof this witch will say anything to get elected. Do we really want four more years of sleeze?

Posted by: Shrillary Is a Sleezebag | March 20, 2008 12:32 PM

Hillary seems to have lost her moral compass.

Power corrupts, sure, and 35 years of it is a long time.

Posted by: Rob L. | March 20, 2008 12:34 PM

Duh

The election they had did not count.

The re-do will count.

Do you see the logic. (WP stop being racist and treating Obama like a idiot who has to be protected by the latte libs.)

Again the point was not to let big states go too soon. It was not to kill there delegations. The is the reality.

Obama is a smarmy F head living in his big lies.

Posted by: Anonymous | March 20, 2008 12:36 PM

"yeah, and Obama said he never heard the racist comments from his preacher."

Actually, no, he did not... this is what he said...

"... Did I know him to be an occasionally fierce critic of American domestic and foreign policy? Of course. Did I ever hear him make remarks that could be considered controversial while I sat in church? Yes. Did I strongly disagree with many of his political views? Absolutely"

Posted by: BD | March 20, 2008 12:40 PM

Those of you who keep harping on the good Rev.Wright, recognize that you are racists, haters, and lost souls. Try not to be so scared of everything. The boogeyman is not coming. You'll get your Cheetos no matter who's President, the concern here is that your chance at happiness is gong up in bitter smoke. At any rate, y'all sure looked desperate this past week, to say nothing of real stupid.

As to Hillary, she's made liars and cheats out of her supporters. Which is harsh! They all showed up filled with hope and promise, and now she's a desperate cheater, trying to steal the election right in front of our eyes. She's lost her moral compass. Sad. The irony being that, all these earnest folk are now, for all intents and purposes, working for the Repubs now, helping tear down Barack, who has already won the nomination. So Hillary-ites, how's it feel to be working for McCain?

Posted by: Rob L. | March 20, 2008 12:44 PM

This has nothing to do with what Obama said... this is really about Clinton

Mrs. Clinton, you were an arrogant liar and presumed winner...now you are an arrogant liar and presumed loser...yet you are still a LIAR

Posted by: Reality Check | March 20, 2008 12:45 PM

One is speaking about whether her name should have been taken off or not, which she is saying doesn't matter and the other is talking about whether a re-vote should occur-not insisting on keeping the "false" vote- I don't see the problem, but since it's HRC- You all have to make some sort of problem out of this. Perhaps if she had framed it with some rhetoric about change she could have pulled it off.

Leon

Posted by: Anonymous | March 20, 2008 12:50 PM

I personally did not think it made any difference, whether or not my name was on the ballot. You know, it's clear, this election they're having is not going to count for anything.

Posted by: Hillary Clinton | March 20, 2008 12:52 PM

This is just another in a long line of hundreds of example where Hillary, Bill and all her campaign staff will say anything, regarless of what they have said previously, to win. How arrogant of her to think that anyone is buying the "it is only right for the people of FL and MI" crap. Give it up Hillary, this country can't stand another 8 years of your kind of politics.

Posted by: Not A Hill Fan | March 20, 2008 12:54 PM

Do honestly think if the situation were reversed and Obama was behind and asking for a re-vote that Hillary would agree to it? Of course not! This isn't about Obama---it's about Hillary's desperation. She's losing and everybody knows it.

Posted by: Pajaro | March 20, 2008 1:00 PM

Michigan and Florida had clear and multiple warnings of what would happen if they moved their primaries. Yet they voted to do it anyway.

The time for the voters to speak was before their legislatures selfishly voted to move up their primaries. But they thought they would be cute and get away with it.

Actions have consequences. If the DNC caves on this then it will be complete chaos four years from now.

Posted by: Susan B. Anthony | March 20, 2008 1:16 PM

Will it really make any difference in the delegate count if they redo the Florida and Michigan primaries? It won't make up the defference between the two of them. Obama will still be ahead. This was proven in Texas and Ohio.

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Posted by: votenic | March 20, 2008 1:58 PM

Hillary needs these votes, no matters what she said. Furthermore, it is only fair for us, the people, to get an accurate nomination. In any event, Hillary will have to fight hard, but she is, as these Internet Statistics show;

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Posted by: davidmwe | March 20, 2008 2:48 PM

It would have been principled to insist on Michigan and Florida being enfranchised if it were done *before* the votes.

Undemocratic is not that some people don't get to vote (many people don't get to vote, for example a huge share of african-americans in some phase of a relationship with the criminal justice system), that, for now, is inevitable. What is undemocratic is a constant tinkering with the process in order to arrive at desired results. Democracy IS process. No amount of double-speak or sloganeering from the clintons can change that.

Posted by: scott s | March 20, 2008 4:45 PM

These comments are the least of Mrs. Clinton's problems. Check out this story on Mrs. Clinton's personal "pastorgate" -- her participation in the Capitol Hill "Family" bible study group (hmmm shouldn't she realize that being in a group that's got George Allen, Ed Meese, John Ashcroft etc. as members might not be such a good idea?) and their ties to fascism throughout history:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/barbara-ehrenreich/hillarys-nasty-pastorate_b_92361.html

Posted by: Bette | March 20, 2008 5:04 PM

If you see and HEAR her words frm NH, if you see and HEAR her words since then, how can anyone support her/your argument. It isn't distorted by any media with their own agenda, it's there for all to see and yet, hillary supporters continue to support her and blame obama.

I just don't get it. I really don't. Should I lift myself up for my own intelligence? I think so.

Her OWN words and actions can't be dismissed. It's her judgements, her OWN words, her actions, her taking this entire issue to enflame so many people - it's outrageous. And worst of all, it's obama to blame. Where lies her judgement? And why do some say she lacks sincerity and trust? Sad, sad, sad.

I wonder if you can't see the writing on the wall (for or against hillary) then your objectivity may have been lost.

Posted by: objective | March 20, 2008 5:12 PM

It is not surprising that Hillary will say whatever she needs to win.

Barack will win and there will be dancing in the streets.

If Hillary steals the election there will be riots.

Posted by: MiffedinJax | March 20, 2008 6:07 PM

The media as well as the FBI should investigate if the Michigan Revote is being finance by the likes of Norman Hsu, whose donations to the Clintons come from illegal money laundered by the Communist Chinese. The same goes with the dirty money donated to Bill Clinton by the Kazakhstan uranium deal. Clinton greased the wheels for this massive deal in exchange for $100 million. Bill Clinton used the $100 million dollars to pay for all his daily expenses. It finances everything he does as a former president: trips, travel, hotels, dining, rentals, escorts, s*x, virtually everything he does can be billed to his foundation. He even had his charity pay for his Starbucks coffee each morning.

Posted by: Matt | March 20, 2008 6:42 PM

Last fall, Clinton said that the votes in Michigan and Florida and she agreed to the DNC rules. Now, she is campaining in Michigan and Florida and with the help of the officials supporting her, she is trying to change the rules of the game: with primaries where people who voted in the republican primaries can not revote and where her big donors are proposing with much publicity to pay for the primaries and the votes. What has changed since last Fall? She is loosing and now want to make new rules in the middle of the game and favorable to her.

Posted by: Logan | March 20, 2008 10:25 PM

Posted by: votenic | March 21, 2008 3:34 PM

Hey look at this- take away the undemocratic caucuses- where about 5% of the eligible voters are able to participate and...
http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/2008/clinton-obama-popular-vote.html

Interesting...

Posted by: nycLeon | March 22, 2008 1:02 AM

I could not believe that the Obama supporters
would deny Sen. Clinton the right to continue her bid for the democratic nomination.

Let us do the math everybody says. No way can Clinton win the number of pledged delegates. She should withdraw now or destroy the party.

I respect their right to support their dog, Sen. Obama but these fanatics are barking on a wrong tree. Sen. Clinton is the most qualified and electable candidate and she deserves to be the nominee not only for her strength but for her tenacity.

To asked her to withdraw because she is trailing in pledged delegates is preposterous and disrespectful of her. This is akin to a ballgame where the fans of the leading team are quaking in their knees fearful of losing in the end. They want to end the game now that they are leading even if the game is still going on.

For all their expertise in math, these Obama fanatics conveniently forget how to count. The name of the game is to garner 2025 delegates to win the nomination. If anybody can show me that Sen. Obama already got this number, then it is over. Otherwise, you fools should all shut up and let the race continue.

The rules say 2025 delegates not who is leading in pledged delegate. Super delegates are allowed to vote not only to determine who is the most electable but to save the party by counteracting intervening events like the "GODDAM AMERICA " fiasco.
sorry folks but if the democratic party, in its lunacy still choose Sen. Obama the nominee inspite of the albatross hanging in his neck, then it will destroy itself because Sen. Obama will not only lose in November but as the standard bearer, will take down other candidates running for election.

I am a democrat but I don't care if the party is destroyed if they will nominate a flawed candidate. I won't vote for a candidate that associate himself and choose as pastor that asked GOD to damn the country where I lived.

Posted by: tim591 | March 22, 2008 2:14 PM

For all his posturings as a UNITER, Sen. Obama is nothing but a common politician. If he really wants to unite the party he would agree to a re-vote not only for Michigan and Florida regardless of the consequences to his candidacy.

How could you deny these voters who are being penalized just for voting their preference?

Frankly, I don't think this will affect Sen. Clinton at all. At least she showed she cared for these voters even though you may say she is doing this to prop up her candidacy. The re-vote is needed so as not to displease the voters in these states. You don't snub them and ask for their support later on.

Whether there is a re-vote in Michigan or Florida, Sen. Clinton will win the nomination. Let us do the math says everybody. Sen. Clinton will not surpass Sen. Obama in pledged delegates and it would be better that she withdraw her candidacy so as not to destroy the party.

For all their expertise in math, these Obama supporters conveniently forget how to count. The winner is the one who garners 2025 delegates NOT THE ONE LEADING IN PLEDGED SUPER DELEGATES. If and when Sen. Obama reach this number, then he and you Obama supporters can claim victory. Otherwise, shut up your traps and let the race continue.

Both Sen. Obama and Sen. Clinton may need the votes of Super-delegates to reach the magic number of 2025. Super delegates vote their own preferences and does not necessarily follow who is leading the pledged delegates or popular votes. They are there not only to choose the strongest and most electable candidate but to counteract intervening events such as the "GODDAM AMERICA" fiasco. This is why Sen. Clinton will be the nominee.

If the democratic party, in its lunacy still nominate Sen. Obama, then it would destroy itself. Not only will they lose the presidential election but their standard bearer will take down others in their party
running for election.

As for me, I coudn't care less for the party if they nominate a flawed candidate.
I surely will not vote for an opportunistic politician who conveniently used his pastor in his ascent to Chicago politics and then disassociate himself only now after 20 years of keeping quiet to these hateful rants.

Posted by: tim591 | March 22, 2008 3:33 PM

WHERE IS OBAMA'S JUDGMENT NOW? Obama has proven that he is not very honest and moral person,he SUPPORTS reverend Wright ,HE SAID HIS GRANMA WAS RACIST,He made secret deal WITH FOREIGN GOVERNMENT AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE (he send his assistant to Canada to advice the canadians to lie on his behalf).It is obvious now that he is lying lawyer without any morals ,and he is not the goody two shoes like he was portraying himself.He is the wolf in the sheeps clothing prying for the votes of the people.From the legal point if he was elected president and he was making secret deals with foreign governments it is treason of FIRST DEGREE.
It doesnt matter how many big speeches he is going to make ,nobody is going to beliEve in THE SUPERIOR JUDGMENT ANYMORE.
Hilary Clinton on the other side is who she is!Hilary is Hilary!She is stuborn and honest,she is not trying to make big speeches.I DON'T KNOW WHY SHE DOESNT MAKE ANY BIG SPEECHES.Maybe she thinks that she can persuade with her own words than with words that was writen by skilfull writer.That is what Obama is doing ,he is good reader with strong vocal cords.About his morality we can question him twice!

Posted by: Tim | March 22, 2008 8:16 PM

So much of Obama's sUPERIOR JUDGMENT!People,Obama is a lawyer with no morals,he just needs votes.He was defending the reverend Wright and he made his own Granma a Racist.He made deals with foreign government(canada) against The American Voters.The only thing he is good is reading speeches!

Posted by: Tim | March 22, 2008 8:26 PM

It is very simple!MICHIGEN AND FLORIDA SHOULD MAKE ANOTHER PRIMARIES ON JUNE 3RD!The Democratic party and Dean and the governers of Florida and Michigen should organize PRIMARIES FLORIDA / MICHIGEN.jUST DOO IIITTT!

Posted by: John Doe | March 22, 2008 8:37 PM

That is why a lot of folks do not trust and like her. Now she wants to change the rules hopefully in her favor in the middle of a game. Pathetic...and what adds insult to injury is the fact she is blaming Obama. After PA - Please go away hillary. Please!!!!!

Posted by: sleeze | March 22, 2008 9:45 PM

Hey folks, my mum has said racist stuff,
but I still love her. Think about it-
probably your family has said racist,
ridiculous crap, and what was your reaction?
If you like McCain and think he'll help
your life, then choose him.
And if Hillary seems the better choice,
then go for it, but all the stuff about
Wright's racism and how Barack's apology
isn't enough isn't convincing me.
I still vote differently than my mum.
And it doesn't bother me in the least.

Posted by: Philip VB | March 23, 2008 10:07 AM

My my my isn't it interesting to watch when a Clinton supporter hears something they don't like or can't defend regarding Clinton so they just go on the attack. It happens in school years all over the country. LOL Indefensiable actions are just that folks. They cannot be defended. Hillary did not care about MI and FL until it cost her in delegates. The supporters just need to try some honesty and say so what LOL

Posted by: Deanna | March 24, 2008 4:55 AM

Hillary is ten times the person Obtama is. Her husband is proud to be an American. I don't trust Mrs. Obama as a first lady. Wasn't Obama in the state Senate and couldn't vote for the war? He trashed his Grandma and stood by a bigoted Minister. He lied about his parents meeting at the Selma march. He was already born. His dealings with the slum landlord very questionable. He used cocaine in the past.

Posted by: Anne | April 3, 2008 10:29 PM

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