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Posted at 4:45 PM ET, 02/18/2009

'The Stimulus Monkey': Is Today's 'NY Post' Cartoon Racist?

By Michael Cavna

The Rev. Al Sharpton has denounced it. Some cartoonists and commentators have lambasted it as racist. Other commenters have declared that it's just a "bad" cartoon, but one lacking in ugly intent. And its editor has defended it.

Today's New York Post cartoon by Sean Delonas -- which references both the stimulus bill and the Connecticut news story about a chimp that was shot after mauling a woman -- has stirred the kind of controversy that perhaps no illustration since Barry Blitt's New Yorker magazine cover last summer has.

Tomorrow, Comic Riffs will wade more deeply into this issue, but today we ask you:


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I think it may be best to ask what Sean intended to express? As the audience, we're going to have our own opinions. He must've known he would receive negative reactions. Maybe that was the intent...to get some type of interest, albeit negative.
The Post knew it would receive hits simply because of the topic. We get it! All publicity is good in the world of media.

These antics will never end because people will always feel the need to express their opinion, even at the expense of offending others.

Posted by: tdw1972 | February 18, 2009 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Monkeys have long been depicted when satirizing something that's inane and senseless. Many feel that way about the stimulus bill congress has passed. The cartoon was a clever way of connecting a current event with political satire. I doubt seriously the cartoonist had any racial motive in mind when he drew it, but the Post must have realized this might trigger a knee-jerk reaction among minorities.

Posted by: taylorgso | February 18, 2009 5:41 PM | Report abuse

It is quite commonplace to describe a messy, confusing, or illogical document (or legislation) as sounding as if it were written by a drunken monkey, or something similar. The cartoon is a really dumb attempt to be "relevant" by referencing the shooting of the violent chimp in Connecticut and trying to tie that in with the stimulus package, but it's not a racial slur or an encouragement of assassination.

Posted by: seismic-2 | February 18, 2009 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Any informed person knows the bill was written in Congress. So It is rather a mystery to know which member of congress is an "ape." But to see the President is to work a lot. However cartoonist are never known for sticking to the facts. Either way - we do have freedom to express ideas.

So we can complain. But that is about all. More would give it undue importance.

Posted by: gary4books | February 18, 2009 5:52 PM | Report abuse

I would be amazed if the artist couldn't see how that would be taken by many as a racial reference. And even more so if his editors had not considered it. I find it very hard not to draw that conclusion.

At best it's an incredibly ham-handed and insensitive cartoon. The Post can claim artistic freedom all they want, but the same freedom applies to criticism of their either racist or idiotic choice (perhaps both).

Posted by: teo_68 | February 18, 2009 5:53 PM | Report abuse

perhaps if the cops in the cartoon weren't both white (or at least the one who is holding the gun), it wouldn't be perceived as being so racist. But then again, that may have been partially/subconciously his intent.

Posted by: tipsytom | February 18, 2009 6:08 PM | Report abuse

I am appalled by the cartoon depicting and reference to Obama as some chimp with bullet holes. How is this humor? The NY Post should first apologize to President Obama and African Americans for thinking that there would be humor in this. This cannot be minimized as some joke referring the Connecticut issue and it's unacceptable for Americans to not be raging mad about this. How can this be accepted? If the president was Jewish and something of this nature happened, there would be an international uproar. Where is the rest of the country on this issue? Why aren't people regardless of color upset about this. Muslims get mad when Mohamed is drawn, so should everyone at this point regardless of your race, religion or how you feel about an African American being the US PRESIDENT.

Posted by: 40acres | February 18, 2009 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Of course it's not racist! It's not as if white people have a history of using simian imagery to deride and denigrate African Americans and other non-whites. Depicting Black men as chimps, gorillas, orangutans, etc., is something that has never happened before, so why should anyone make that comparison now? Why, I'm sure the thought never even occurred to the artist of this piece. [/bitter sarcasm]

Posted by: xenophile | February 18, 2009 6:10 PM | Report abuse

The Obamamations are sadly similar to the illiterate Muslims who rioted over the Danish cartoons a few years ago. Even Obama must wonder about them sometimes.

Posted by: amazd | February 18, 2009 6:12 PM | Report abuse

Maybe I'm missing something here, but I just checked and the House version of the stimulus bill (now law), H.R.1, and discovered that it was introduced by Rep. David Obey and was Co-Sponsored by Reps. Frank, Gordon, Miller, Oberstar, Rangel, Spratt, Towns, Velázquez & Waxman. (Sorry, I didn't have time to research the Senate version). But I did notice that Barack Obama's name doesn't appear anywhere on that list.

Now, unless something has changed radically and fundamentally in the way our government works and the three branches of government/separation of powers thing that we all learned about in grade school no longer holds true, and Congress has expressly abdicated its Consitutional authority to the Executive branch, that would mean that the listed Congressmen (really, their staffs), not the President, were the ones who had a major role in writing said bill.

Let me put that another way: THE PRESIDENT DOESN'T WRITE BILLS THAT ARE INTRODUCED IN CONGRESS. Accordingly, he didn't write this one, and he won't be writing the "next one" alluded to in the comic.

The point of the cartoon, which unfortunately is not conveyed clearly, is that the Stimulus Bill is so simplistic/wrong-headed/stupid that it could have been written by a crazed monkey (1000 Monkeys/Shakespeare analogy, anyone?). It's not a hidden racial slur.

POTUS may have wanted the package, and he may have used his political charm/power to shape it and make it happen, but he didn't write the thing, and it takes a pretty big leap of logic to get to the idea that the cartoonist is attempting to reference the President as the dead "writer" of the bill.

By a similar long leap of logic, couldn't someone try to argue that that this is also an offensive racist reference to the tragic BART Police shooting from a few months ago? Which just means this: people are going to see in the comic what they want to see, and if some people want to take offense at a perceived, unintended slight, nothing is going to stop them. However, I would hate to live in a world where political commentators (even apparently 2nd-rate cartoonists -- sorry, I'm not acquainted with Mr. Delonas' work, but I'm not impressed) have to self-censor just because they're afraid that their intended point is going to be misinterpreted by some segment of the population, or special interest group, or fringe element.

Posted by: KLaw | February 18, 2009 6:21 PM | Report abuse

Oh come on. How long has the old line been around, "a monkey could have done this"? All the cartoon is implying is that the stimulus bill is a lousy bill (no argument there) and could have been written by a monkey. Given the circumstances of the monkey's death and the mauling of the owner's friend, I'd say it's in poor taste. But racist? You are a racist if you think so. Were Bush still President, no one would see anything racist about it. We can say a poorly written bill could have been written by a monkey as long as it was written by a white man, but dare not make the same observation if a black man had something to do with the bill? The double is bigotry. It's not the color of the skin that is the problem, but the thickness. Sharpton needs to quit making a career of being a victim of racism, and he needs to quit being a racist. (Remember Tawana Brawley?)

Posted by: dcsuburb | February 18, 2009 6:24 PM | Report abuse

I think that only a racist would see a link between a dead chimp and Obama. What's the relation? In who's mind?

Besides-- wasn't it Congress that wrote the bill? I don't get the outrage, unless people are projecting what they want to see there. Is the cartoon comparing Pelosi to a chimp? Or is it Harry Reid? Or Olympia Snowe maybe?

Oh, just... cut the B.S.

Posted by: alarico | February 18, 2009 6:26 PM | Report abuse

This is just a bad cartoon. Question is, who are the racists? Its more like those who see in a bad cartoon playing on the CT monkey gone wild and profligate spending bill some alleged association with or allusion to our black president who did NOT write the bill....

Big surprise that Rev. Sharpton would call it racist. He uses the term loosely and with a purpose of remaining relevant. Others seek to transcend race (namely Obama) while some still focus on what they believe divides us.... Sharpton falls into this later category.

Posted by: lovinliberty | February 18, 2009 6:31 PM | Report abuse

Oh come on. How long has the old line been around, "a monkey could have done this"? All the cartoon is implying is that the stimulus bill is a lousy bill (no argument there) and could have been written by a monkey. Given the circumstances of the monkey's death in CT and the mauling of the owner's friend, I'd say the cartoon is in poor taste. But racist? You are a racist if you think so. Were Bush still President, no one would see anything racist about it. We can say a poorly written bill could have been written by a monkey as long as it was written by a white man, but dare not make the same observation if a black man had something to do with the bill? The double standard is bigotry. It's not the color of the skin that is the problem, but the thickness. Sharpton needs to quit making a career of being a victim of racism, and he needs to quit being a racist. (Remember Tawana Brawley?)

Posted by: dcsuburb | February 18, 2009 6:32 PM | Report abuse

KLaw,

Actually, you're wrong. While the administration cannot introduce bills in Congress, the White House often drafts legislation. How many times have you heard the POTUS use the expression, "I will propose legislation to..."? Listen to the State of the Union address and you will hear it more than once. In this particular instance, the stimulus bill was clearly 'owned' by President Obama:

Transcript: Obama's Press Conference

NPR.org, February 9, 2009 · President Obama opened his first prime-time White House news conference with a call for Congress to pass his proposed $800-billion-plus stimulus package.

I suppose that it is easy, if not convenient, for people to rationalize this away and not see it as the racial slur that it should be considered, even if unintended. The people who think that way have probably never been called a "porch monkey" or "knuckle dragger."

Posted by: hisroc | February 18, 2009 6:44 PM | Report abuse

I don't care what his intention was, there is absolutely no way anyone could convince that the cartoonist and the editor of the NY Post didn't see this coming. They had to have known people would react negatively to this, and they went with it anyway.

Posted by: jessecline | February 18, 2009 7:10 PM | Report abuse

This cartoon should never have seen print. I can't discern even a shred of humor in the drawing or the punchline.

Posted by: smcmike | February 18, 2009 7:19 PM | Report abuse

Hisroc,

No "rationalization" is required. Although Presidents certainly can write legislation, one of the primary complaints about the abomination falsely labeled a "stimulus" package is that Obama DIDN'T write it, leaving it instead to the rapacious pork dispensers in Congress. They engaged in an orgy of incoherent spending that bears no resemblance to a carefully crafted stimulus, except for its staggering size.

Anyone professing to see racism in this cartoon is engaging in the same old race baiting -- wasn't the Messiah supposed to transcend all this?

Posted by: warddm | February 18, 2009 7:20 PM | Report abuse

The stimulus bill was written mainly by the leadership in Congress, so they are really calling Nancy Pelosi a monkey. White people let me calm your nerves - This is just Al Sharpton looking for a pay day. Don't cave to his insanity. There are very few black people that have ever in their lives been called a "porch monkey" or "knuckle dragger" whatever those mean.

I think unfortunately the comic is not that funny since the story with the monkey attacking this woman is slightly too obscure. The leaves the mind to wonder why cops would be shooting the chimp, letting some unintended racial context slip in.

Posted by: Dremit97 | February 18, 2009 7:24 PM | Report abuse

I have to wonder on the voting on this as well as the comments. I looked 2 hours ago and there were 5 votes and no comments. Now there are 18 comments and over 680 votes. It took several days for the comic poll to go that high and there was ballot stuffing.

Is this because there is a little blurb on the front page? Are people just looking for things to be offended by? Will people be offended just by the question?

Posted by: elyrest | February 18, 2009 7:29 PM | Report abuse

I'm far more offended by the fact that the artist used a tragic event (the mauling of a woman by the chimp and the police shooting him to death) than I am any racist overtones that people want to read into this cartoon.

People see what they want to see.
Folks who are offended by this cartoon are probably the type who generally see discrimination in the most mundane things...just like white supremacists see proof of their racism in the most mudane things.
Both parties are guilty of perpetuating racist stereotypes.

And, Al Sharpton just needs to shut up in general. I wonder how many people would have been offended by the cartoon if Al hadn't put the notion of racism in their heads by opening his fat mouth?

Posted by: JMGinPDX | February 18, 2009 7:31 PM | Report abuse

I can't see the connection between the recently shot monkey (neither the real one nor the cartoon one) and Nancy Pelosi. What was the cartoonist trying to say?

Posted by: llrllr | February 18, 2009 7:33 PM | Report abuse

Absurdly petty...but is'nt that what the WaPo & it's readers are icons of?
People are betting big bucks your federal government is going to default{go broke}.
Do the math on yield per annum v. CDS cost.
This is the finance issue of our lifetimes but instead attention is diverted to a cartoon.

http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idUSN1843678720090218

US Treasury default swaps jump to new record-Markit

Posted by: rtfanning | February 18, 2009 7:34 PM | Report abuse

YES....i think its racist!!!....you just lost me as a subscriber.

Posted by: joseph_jones39 | February 18, 2009 7:35 PM | Report abuse

This hypersensitivty to Obama's race is a perfect shield. It has been dusted off and put into play every time Obama's bad decisions are poked at.

Are we really going to be subjected to four more years of these self-pitying race-card histrionics by the publicity loving Al Sharpton and his ilk?

Posted by: nlynnc | February 18, 2009 7:41 PM | Report abuse

I find it amazing that people who can't say what they really feel have to beat around the bush to get their point across. This cartoonist obviously DID NOT vote for Obama because he knew there was a thin tight rope to walk when he published this foolishness. There's one positive note that will come from this. He (Obama) is our President of The United States of America. He's no second hand newspaper cartoonist who's trying to get five minutes of fame. He's a well educated, well respected man. Whether Sean whom ever was trying to be cute, evil or funny it will not change the fact that Obama's my and your president!

Posted by: pharphetch | February 18, 2009 7:42 PM | Report abuse

I have an open mind and am not an overly sensitive person when it comes to the various -isms in our society. I have seen discrimiation; at the same time, I know that Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are attention-grabbing crybabies. I almost always find myself disagreeing with whatever offense they claim to have suffered by "the man."
But, in this case, I think that, at a minimum, the cartoonist and/or editor knew that this cartoon would create a racist impression in many people's minds. Just by looking at it, I wouldn't be surprised to hear that the monkey was intended to represent Obama.
First, if you really think about, people who say the monkey represents the stimulus bill itself are clearly incorrect. The cops, after killing the monkey, say that someone else will have to write the next stimulus bill. That has to mean that the writer of the stimulus bill was killed. Otherwise, the cartoon makes no sense. If merely the current stimulus bill is killed, the same writer could draft the next stimulus bill. There's no internal correlation.
Then, the next question is who is the writer of the current stimulus bill. Technically, it was congressional democrats. I get that. However, political cartoons (or any other cartoons, for that matter) seek to use general societal understanding and perception, technical niceties. Otherwise, it has no relevance or import to most readers. Today, most people generally believe that the president generates legislation, partly because recent presidents have always talked about creating legislation. Thus, it is more than fair to think that many people seeing this cartoon will see a reference to the writer of the stimulus bill as being the president.
Again, this isn't because I'm trying to find racism, as some say above. If Bush were in office, I'd say the monkey represents him (what an appropriate representation).
Plus, it is a fact that in our history, blacks in this country have unfortunately been compared to monkeys.
Maybe for those who know the details of this Connecticut monkey story (which I don't), it carries less racial undertones, but that's how I see it.

Posted by: roerim | February 18, 2009 7:52 PM | Report abuse

roerim,
I couldn't (and apparently didn't) say it better.

This is not about Al Sharpton. From Tawana Brawley to the Duke lacrosse team, he has been proven to be a self-promoting opportunist. However, even a broken watch is right twice a day.

The people who see no harm in this cartoon are either blinded by their dislike for Sharpton (which I share) or are tone-deaf because of their anger over the "stimulus" bill (which I also share). That's very sad.

Posted by: hisroc | February 18, 2009 8:08 PM | Report abuse

What a stupid controversy. Neither Obama nor any specific black person wrote the "stimulus" bill.

Posted by: bokamba | February 18, 2009 8:16 PM | Report abuse

New York City has lost over 100,000 jobs last, New York Post needs to address the issues of today. The way the economy is going the New York Post might go out of business. Today, the country is trouble, we do not about rap stars lifesyles and basketball and movie stars homes, we need to become more educated as a country.

Posted by: nativeva1 | February 18, 2009 8:25 PM | Report abuse

Gee.. Blacks get a life... why are you afraid of everything anyone publishes...just ignore it.. just like we ignore you... duh....

Posted by: robinhood2 | February 18, 2009 8:32 PM | Report abuse

I think the crazy chimp would have done a better job. I'm offended posthumously on his behalf, Besides, it is time to confront race with "frank talk."

/s/ Member of the Nation of Cowards

Posted by: cletus1 | February 18, 2009 8:33 PM | Report abuse

The bigger question is this....

Is the phrase "its so easy a monkey can do it" a racist coment" ?????

I am of a younger generation so I dont see it as racist.

Posted by: djp98374 | February 18, 2009 8:35 PM | Report abuse

New York Post Owes President Obama an Apology
http://www.floodthelines.com/nypchimpcartoon/
Our President is no Chimp!

Posted by: FLMom | February 18, 2009 8:41 PM | Report abuse

How about depicting editor-in-chief of NY Post as a white dog chained and pulled by KKK goons? That should perfectly reflect NY Post's attitude. Any monkey would say this cartoon was deliberate.

Posted by: Dave42 | February 18, 2009 8:50 PM | Report abuse

The cartoon could be construed by some as racist; however, the cartoon goes far beyond being a racist.

It shows the incivility that a human being has towards another human being, it shows insensitivity towards the people who were recently mauled by a wild animal. More importantly, it shows that some people will go to great lengths to get a laugh at the expense of others. Overall, it shows a lack of respect for human life.

And, we worry about terrorist?

Posted by: lcarter0311 | February 18, 2009 8:51 PM | Report abuse

We are all not very far removed from chimps in evolution, which is why people often have simian features. Our late unlamented leader W, for example. Liberals get offended about percieved racial slights as quickly as conservatives get offended about percieved slights to their mythological entities.

Remember the guy who got fired for using the term "niggardly" in the presence of a black person. Never mind that it is a very old word that was used in its proper context, he was fired (or had to resign) for racial insensitivity.

Posted by: cletus1 | February 18, 2009 8:54 PM | Report abuse

We are "evolved" from apes, and it's obvious that many of us are well down the path RETURNING to that status.

Posted by: TOMHERE | February 18, 2009 9:01 PM | Report abuse

To both sides. "This debate can, and should be, nuanced, principled and spirited. But the conversation we now engage in as a nation on this and other racial subjects is too often simplistic, and left to those on the extremes, who are not hesitant to use these issues to advance nothing more than their own self worth or narrow self interest." (Excerpt from a speech today). The reader makes the editorial cartoon in question racist by his or hers racial perceptions. If you believe in people, its not.

Posted by: thinking1962 | February 18, 2009 9:06 PM | Report abuse

I have lived for over half-a-century which puts my perspective of living through the 1950's and 1960's fights for equal rights and civil rights. First - I would be considered "white" by those that look for color. Second - Having watched the discrimination, persecution, and beatings of people of color during those times, seeing it first hand, and what my parents taught me as to how wrong it all was made a life-time impression with me. As a young child riding in the car I looked across a field out in the country and a saw large group of people in white hooded robes burning a cross. I asked my father what was happing. He told me about the KKK. He told me what their intentions are. Since I was Baptized a Catholic he also told me how they felt about us and what they would do to us if they had the chance. In this "cartoon" I see that there are still many people with that attitude from the 50's and 60's still living back then. I don't know how old the cartoonist is, but if he is younger than myself, then he truly does not "get it" about the destructivness of his public actions. If he is my age or older then he must have been included in the group out in that field long ago. Submitted most sincerely...

Posted by: AIRPLANE1969 | February 18, 2009 9:08 PM | Report abuse

If the President were a white man (say, any of the stage-full of Democratic debaters in the Iowa caucuses a bit over a year ago), and the same stimulus bill had been passed by Congress, this cartoonist would have drawn exactly this same cartoon. The President's race has nothing to do with it.

Posted by: seismic-2 | February 18, 2009 9:13 PM | Report abuse

If most people would take the time to READ the notation in the cartoon, they will notice that it states, "They'll have to find...". The word They'll is a contraction word meaning They will. They is also plural and not singular.

Based on this observation, the cartoon is referencing the Democratic Congress and not Obama; otherwise, the cartoonist would have said "He'll have to, or He will have to. In addition, the President does not pass Bills, he SIGNS them into Law.

As stated in previous post, most people are only looking at a gorilla that is riddled with bullet holes, which would then give some the perception that the gorilla is a representation of Obama.

I, being a black woman do not see that in this carton, but only because of the notation in the cartoon. Pictures can speak a lot of words, it just so happens that this picture has words to go with it.

Regardless, it is still insensitive towards the person who people who were recently mauled by such an animal.

Posted by: lcarter0311 | February 18, 2009 9:23 PM | Report abuse

It's RACIST and all of you saying otherwise obviously, JUST DON'T GET IT!! Nor you want to GET IT!! I guess if you've never been referred to as Monkeys, Chimps and Apes I'm assuming you can make something else of it!! NOT!! You know DARN well what it is, let NOT kid ourselves!!

Posted by: Angryman | February 18, 2009 9:26 PM | Report abuse

I just want to point out quickly that there is an entire website depicting the similarities between Bush and a chimp

http://www.bushorchimp.com/

Maybe America has a propensity towards electing presidents that slightly resemble chimps. I’m sure if you were to look you could find every president referred to as an animal of some sort. There are historical racist implications here just as there are in all sorts of symbols in everyday life. But the only thing that I find offensive is that the editor saw fit to publish such a non funny comic.

Posted by: cilp33 | February 18, 2009 9:32 PM | Report abuse

Racist? Surely you jest. This is a take-off on yesterday's news about the menacing chimp who went berzerk.

Anything who finds this racist is too sensitive.

Posted by: enaughton27 | February 18, 2009 9:37 PM | Report abuse

the cartoon portrays the underlying racism of the right and the republicans - the neo cons..their wall street greed sychophants. note they made this mess - like a time bomb to explode when they where going to be kicked out after their term trying to get total power (no democracy) and totally destroying america's reputation - lying about war - but the people got sick of fear and paranoia - and these right wing nuts set a time bomb of economic terrorism to the US and global economy with their buddies and sychophants on wall street... now they spend all their time doing the most to make thinks worse and destroy the economy further...tehy also didnt like the idea of other economies such as China becoming economic equivalents - so torpedo them through the control of the credit markets - melt it all down and stuff them all back in the box.

This anti any other economic viewpoint is being pursued by their media mates - Fox is still at - so are the so called economic experts on all the other channels - failed experts - failed economics - and they still are being asked for their opinion......they want America to go into a depression so they destroy all their idiological enemies - they are sort of doing a scorched earth economic type approachto protect their ideology - to destroy the first mixed race President and teh democrats and the left so the bumbo voters will never vote for "them" again... they set this up - they still keep the negatives happening and they still keep selling their market - tehir own companies - big banks and instittions and fund managers selling themsleves to hurt us all - Kamikaze like - scorched earth like.......this is them pushing for their end game...they want complete totalitarian control and they knew they were going to be voted out no matter what after their incompetance and term based on fear and parabnoia and hate and division....this is a form of right wing terrorism ....their greed their idiot bankers and corporate mates created this whole mess - and now they deride anyone trying to clean it up...think about it....maybe a conspiracy theory like Naomi Kliens "The Shock Doctrine".... these people should be tried for treason, terrorism not just maybe for the sheer negligence and incompetance of being CEO's Directors etc...some Jail terms for these guys - Enron type behaviour they should be locked up.......

this cartoon is a spoof on their neo con racist outlook - they are Un American....they want the country on the rocks and ropes so they can pretend to save it --- they dont want Obama and company to save it... watch as they continue to be negative and trigger their planted little economic bombs of mass destruction...Bush and Paulson sat around for a year watching it to get worse as they knew they were out on their a's no matter what

Posted by: colinemery | February 18, 2009 9:46 PM | Report abuse

Watch the Obbama-Nutz go crazy over their "Rock Star." An ignorant electorate is dangerous electorate.

It is obvious to anybody who has read Article I of the US Constitution that all appropriation bills originate in the House of Representatives and the Obama-Nutz didn't catch the news about the Xanaxed-out Chimpanzee that went bonkers. (DUH)

Since Massa Barry hasn't served in the House of Representatives, all of these folks are getting their cackles in an uproar over a bill that was prepared by a bunch of zoo animals, no matter what your color or gender is. (That chimp sure looks like David Obey of Wisconsin, to me)

Congress is an animal out of control, PERIOD. Now they plan another omnibus bill to have us, the taxpayer, carry the water.

The only "change" I see is the wrong-doers that have "Liar's Loans" and unethical bankers being rewarded and us poor slobs are stuck with our mortgages and have to pay to bail-out people who made bad business decisions.

2010 and 2012 are coming, and the voters for Jim DeMint is going to send Hallelujah Barry a message!!!! BYE-BYE!!!!

Posted by: Computer_Forensics_Expert_Computer_Expert_Witness | February 18, 2009 10:06 PM | Report abuse

I had heard about the cartoon but not seen it until I visited this site. I must say the first thing I noticed and was appalled by was a sort of call to asassinate a politician, presumably Democratic, as the Dem congress controlled the bill.

Not knowing the cartoonist's exact intent, I will not comment on his racial attitudes. After all, I saw Dog the Bounty hunter on TV, and it's obvious we are all primates. If I have to guess, I guess the cartoonist is a bigoted ass. And his violent message is despicable.

And I don't have to guess that many of the commenters here are the same. That is obvious.

Posted by: Jumper1 | February 18, 2009 10:26 PM | Report abuse

I don't think it was intended to be racist. However, it's not even remotely funny. The NY Post should hire a cartoonist who actually has a sense of humor. This is neither subtle nor surprising, and its point doesn't make that much sense.

Posted by: awsnyde | February 18, 2009 10:30 PM | Report abuse

I truly hope that this is not a depiction of Obama. Why did u choose a monkey? Is it because that blacks and monkeys have been compared to for years, and u felt the need to express ur rascism? This is clear ignorance & u should be suspended immediately!! Like it r not He's ur president too!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: anitrashepard | February 18, 2009 10:43 PM | Report abuse

The Columbia Journalism Review asserted that "the New York Post is no longer merely a journalistic problem. It is a social problem--a force for evil."

Posted by: Jumper1 | February 18, 2009 10:52 PM | Report abuse

I don't see anything racial about the cartoon, but I think those that are already racist are seeing things that aren't there.
Just a bad cartoon.

Posted by: morningglory51 | February 18, 2009 10:57 PM | Report abuse

It is time someone started striking back. Whether it was a chimp or a picture of Gomer Pyle this "stealfromus" package is simply the Democratic payback for the election. Nobody really beleives that Barry Obama wrote that bill. The "racist" controversy is a "smoke screen " to intimidate any critics in the future.
If the Federal Government has trillions of dollars to just give away then we are sending them way too much money.

Posted by: adam49 | February 18, 2009 10:59 PM | Report abuse

Whether it was intentionally racist, it's certainly insensitive. The NY Post ought to have known that this would stir some controversy, and I find their refusal to even acknowledge that rather incredible.

The question left begging, as far as I'm concerned, is why the vicious mauling of a woman by a chimpanzee was so crudely exploited for political "humor" in this instance. I find it shocking that people can be so callous in that regard. A woman is fighting for her life, which if she prevails will be forever scarred... and the focus is only on whether the cartoon is racist or whether Al Sharpton is being opportunistic.

I find that troubling.

Posted by: MontaraCA | February 18, 2009 11:23 PM | Report abuse

After I saw the cartoon, I immediately looked up other cartoons by Sean Delonas.

I did this to see if there was a discernable pattern to his cartoons.

Delonas is a racist, homophobic person, and that is reflected in his cartoons. One thing I didn't see reflected in his cartoons was any indication of humor or even artistic ability.

But after all, it IS part of the NY Post, one of the scummiest rags ever allowed to call itself a newspaper...

Posted by: pagun | February 18, 2009 11:33 PM | Report abuse

I believe the article was very racist. White American's have referred to African Americans to being monkeys for many years. As long as we continue to feed society with this type of rubbage we'll never be blessed as one to experience true change. Personally if many African Americans could turn time back they would agree to have stayed segragated then integrate. This defines really what type of individuals work for "The Washington Post."

p.s. To lcarter0311 - sounds to me you need a little history lesson!

Posted by: cliggin7 | February 18, 2009 11:53 PM | Report abuse

All American citizens of good faith should immediately boycott all Rupert Murdoch News Corporation media properties, and all advertisers who do not immediately cancel all business with News Corp.

Any attempt to censor promotion and distribution of this boycott call on the internet should be considered on the side of this racist empire

Alan MacDonald
Sanford, Maine

Posted by: macturna1 | February 19, 2009 12:04 AM | Report abuse

This defines really what type of individuals work for "The Washington Post."

Posted by: cliggin7 | February 18, 2009 11:53 PM
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You do realize, don't you, that this was published by the New York Post?

Posted by: hisroc | February 19, 2009 1:34 AM | Report abuse

Yes it’s Racist

I had the opportunity to look at the cartoon and at first I thought to myself, just what is it the artist is trying to convey here. Was the artist painting a picture of an animal with the ability to demonstrate logical reasoning and humanistic ability, or was he clearly showing his personal feelings towards the progress of a people that were at one time believed to be inferior to a superior race of bigotry. First of all it wasn’t to long ago that a cartoon was displayed with the candidate Sen. Obama then and his wife Michelle as being radical extremist. Sen. Obama was displayed with the Muslim turban and the make up of the likeness of Osama Bin Laudeen and his wife was dress in full military gear with an AK47 strapped to her back. If that wasn’t enough all throughout the campaign in the RNC camp he was called an Arab at an town hall meeting held by Sen. John McCain and at a rally held by Sarah Palin a elderly man held a curious George doll with an Obama sign across it until he was spotted and passed it on to a little child.

Was it racist? Sure it was, and everyday in America more of these racist antics are displayed by those who have a problem with the fact that we have a black man as the leader of the free world. It doesn’t matter if it is President Obama or any man of color, the situation would be the same. For some God forsaken reason people choose to be in denial to the fact that we were not accepted as humans at one time. Even today the playing field is still unequal. We seem to forget the way that we were brought here and the cruelty which was bestowed upon us not to long ago. Sure we have come a long way in this country and we have made progress along the way. However to question if it was shown as a racial overture, one has to see it through the eyes of a people. I’m an artist myself and it was bad taste. First of all it was two white cops that shot the chimp and the statement alone shows that some people really don’t want blacks to progress period. It’s sad to say but it’s true.

If you turn on the television and listen to the news or drive along in your car and catch a local talk show you hear this form of hatred displayed everyday. However this is the President of the United State of America and he deserves the same opportunity and chance to better this country as any other President before him has had. I think that the media has been unfair to him and the critics are looking for something to score political points and ratings. Let’s pull together people and support this President and put aside our piety differences. Yes I feel what Rev Al Sharpton is doing is the right thing and we need to stand with him on this, because if we don’t we will forever be a second class citizen.

M. Dickey

Posted by: MDickey28 | February 19, 2009 2:34 AM | Report abuse

I don't think the cartoon was racist bc Congress wrote the stimulus bill. Also, I hear ppl saying that "a monkey could do this."

Those who say it is racist should explain in detail why they believe its wrong. Saying that Blacks have been depicted at monkeys in the past isn't quite deep enough. It also doesn't speak to the cartoonist's intent.

I am black and believe the message will be clearer to ppl if there is a little more explanation.

Posted by: bosslady1 | February 19, 2009 4:09 AM | Report abuse

It's no suprise the world is in the state that it is when you read the comments of some of my fellow readers. First and foremost the cartoon is insensitive to the ladie and her family who was attacked by the chimpanzee secondly it is sheer arrogance for anyone to say that Afro-Americans are being too sensitive when it comes to insensitive,inappropriate or demeaning depictions or descriptions such as this cartoon. If you are ignorant to the struggles, sacrifices, suffering of not only the last 40yrs of the Civil Rights Movement but of the last 300 hundred years of slavery etc then I would say do your homework before speaking about a topic you are ill informed. If you don't care about the struggles, sacrifices that Afro-Americans specifically or minorities in general have had to endure since being brought to this country of ours then I say don't hide behind your rhetoric and "philosophies" about this and that. Just openly embrace your callous ignorant attitude towards human decency and Spiritual principles and teachings in general and do all of us a favor and shut up! It's amazing that so many "educated" "church going" folks are so downright amoral and apathetic... We'll all be judged one day and if ignorance isn't your defense then I pray for your soul..

Posted by: thinker13 | February 19, 2009 5:10 AM | Report abuse

. . . And I thought the monkey was the Wall Street Bankers from the Bush Administration who still run Treasury and the Federal Reserve.

Posted by: Geokalish | February 19, 2009 5:48 AM | Report abuse

America is still racists if American's call this free speech. If President Obama was a Jew it would be called anti-semetic.

This is a truly racists joke as this is just one of the many 'Pet" names used by American's to refer to Black American's.

The author can defend his joke, but he is still a racists!

Patrick

Posted by: patmatthews | February 19, 2009 5:51 AM | Report abuse

Is it racist? Well, if you have to ask . . . then, yes, it is -- duhhhhh.

I think a more appropriate question would be, where did the artist get his inspiration from -- a recent Klan meeting, or constant exposure to right-wing fascist vanity gasbags like Sean Insannity or the weepublicans unofficial party leader, that world renowned oxycotin-addicted gay-sex queen himself, Rush Limpballs?

Somewhere, Joseph Goebbels is smiling -- his legacy lives on -- thru the weepublican Party!

Posted by: thesuperclasssux | February 19, 2009 6:03 AM | Report abuse

Are those in the Obama camp to hypersensitive about race, or do they see it as an effective tool to dampen criticism of their leader and his actions.

They cried fowl and got away with it in the case of the New Yorker cartoon, and thus nobody was able to talk about the great article on Obama's style of politics in Chicago.

If every criticism of Obama is to be termed as racism then God help America !

Posted by: sudhanshupant | February 19, 2009 6:17 AM | Report abuse

1.) The cartoon says we'll have to find someone else to write the stimulus bill. So, who are they poking fun at?...congress writes bills not the president.

2.) The monkey is often used in such ways..."A monkey could have done a better job"

3.) Politicians always have and always will be the target for jokes and criticism. While I honestly do not think that this particular cartoon was aimed directly at Obama, those people who have placed Obama on a pedestal need to realize that Obama is going to be criticised just like all the other presidents and politicians. There are those of us that although we appreciate the historical significance of Obama becoming the first black president can still accept that he is in reality just another politician. Obama is human, he will not be able to please everyone and he will make decisions that people will not like. So far I have seen very little judgement passed on our president and far too much idolization. When he does do something that Americans do not approve of, I hope that they will be able to voice their disapproval just like we have with all previous presidents without having to hear the likes of Sharpton and Jackson spouting off.

Posted by: JustMeSterling | February 19, 2009 6:53 AM | Report abuse

So, when did the Klan start doing cartoons for the NY Post?

Posted by: catweasel3 | February 19, 2009 7:12 AM | Report abuse

sudhansupant and justme --

It's clear that you're both missing a few cards from your deck, but I'll try to explain the situation anyway . . .

In circumstances of public discourse, which the Post "claims" to be engaging in, there are certain rules of proper decorum, and distributing what really amounts to amatuerish racist propaganda (a la Joe Goebbels), is seen as an inappropriate display of one individual's (the cartoonist's) sexual dysfunction(s). There is, btw, a direct link between overt displays of racism and sexual dysfunction(s).

I wonder if your condescending dismissal of the criticism leveled at the Post would be the same, if, for instance, a cartoon showing the bullet-riddled body of the weepublican Party's unofficial leader -- Rush Limpballs -- was featured in the NY Times or WaPo????

Hmmmmmmmmm?

Posted by: thesuperclasssux | February 19, 2009 7:21 AM | Report abuse

I don't think this is racist. I do think it is outrageously stupid and makes no point. It more reflects on any newspaper that would actually publish it - stupid and pointless.

Posted by: rdfoley | February 19, 2009 7:28 AM | Report abuse

When Condy Rice was named Secretary of State, severa liberal cartoonist depicted her as a piccaninny (sp?) on the front porch of Massa Bush's plantation. Yet only the conservative press objected. You never saw anything in the main stream media. There is nothing here except Al Sharpton and other 'civil rights leaders' who is being sidelined, needing exposure.

Posted by: Joe4 | February 19, 2009 7:29 AM | Report abuse

Would it have been better if they blamed the stimulation package on Corky from Life Goes On?

Oh wait, he didn't just get shot by the cops.

Still, you had to see this one coming. I'm just glad Rev Al has something to be irritated about. He really is the spokeman for the nation.

Posted by: JulioAugustine | February 19, 2009 7:45 AM | Report abuse

I cannot vote Yes or No because of the inadequate way the question was framed.

I am white and do see how it could be viewed as racist and offensive. That is how it affected me. It was left too open to interpretation which suggests that the "artist" and his/her bosses were content with that rather than to put a sign on the chimp's chest saying US Congress. But no they didn't do that; so, they would rather insult and invoke a racist image than be clearly understood.

Beyond the racist implications (which are condemnable)I find the cartoon so incongruous and ill fitting in its assinine attempt to connect the chimp incident with the Stimulus package. In no way is it funny or hitting the mark.

Posted by: GerriM | February 19, 2009 7:49 AM | Report abuse

Any Goof can take two unrelated events and put them together in a distasteful and inciteful cartoon (And We DONT Want To Go There) at his desk. His peers know his heart and now everybody else knows it also, no problem. But the individual that had the authority, the person be it editor, editor-in-chief, or CEO that said I like it print it should at a minimum be furloughed without pay for a month for poor judgement. Perhaps in his absence his underlings can produce a paper that raises the standard of the New York Post and increases its circulation. Then the NYP could give him a permanent leave of absence. There's only one person in the land that can sign a Bill into law and that is the Honorable President Barak Obama. Shooting a chimpanzee doesn't stop him from doing the peoples' business, GET OVER IT!

Posted by: jonpark55 | February 19, 2009 7:53 AM | Report abuse

Congress writes the bills not the President. Get a life

Posted by: vallo | February 19, 2009 8:00 AM | Report abuse

Please, people, that is an *ape*, not a *monkey*. Apes move underneath branches, monkeys run along the tops of branches. There is a big difference. Oh, and BTW, if you think you can see racism here, you need to take a pill and go lie down. I'm more offended by the cartoonist taking advantage of the tragic life and death of that chimp --lots more offended.

Posted by: makouli | February 19, 2009 8:14 AM | Report abuse

The cartoonist, did this so Al Sharpton would have something to do.

Obama presidency, has made both Sharpton & Jackson illrelevant.

Posted by: dashriprock | February 19, 2009 8:16 AM | Report abuse

How long have the American people been calling former presidents names and refering them to monkeys, criminals, etc. But then again, how long have the American people been hypocrites, since America became America. If the current president is not of some black race, this would be a fun thing. So move on people, STOP BEING BLACK, as my President Obama is asking every black people of America. I am not black, but I voted and supported my President Obama, and I don't see color nor will ever look at it. I am just sick of Black making an issue about anything and everything that MAYBE offensive, and someone calling himself reverend is INCITING a stupid divisive interpretation of the comic. The real monkey here is the reverend Al Sharp Tone himself...

Posted by: rene_m69 | February 19, 2009 8:37 AM | Report abuse

I find the insensitivity is directed toward the lady in Connecticut who had to try to slay her beloved pet, who had to beg the police to shoot it, who has to live with the extreme damage done to her friend's body, and to the lady who is in critical condition after the mauling. Let's put the caring where it belongs.

Posted by: mbrumble | February 19, 2009 8:45 AM | Report abuse

You know, the chimpanzee was originally in Africa, but came here because he ran into too many cheetahs playing poker.

Posted by: MC_Pee_Pants | February 19, 2009 8:50 AM | Report abuse

And how many times was Bush depicted as a monkey? That should end it. And this cartoon isn't even directly tied to Obama but rather Congress. Give the race card a rest, people; it's getting bent out of shape from overuse.

Posted by: forgetthis | February 19, 2009 8:51 AM | Report abuse

HELLO!!!! It does not matter if the President did not write the bill,(he def plays a part in signing the bill and informing the citizens of the USA with the status of the bill; ie, if the bill will go through, when, and what the bill consists of), and it also does not matter if the picture is a 'monkey' or an 'ape'. What matters is that if President Obama was not President then this cartoon would have never been printed. THATS THE BIG PICTURE PEOPLE! Every person that has commented on this cartoon TRULEY knows that African Americans have always been refered to as monkeys, apes, etc. (the list goes on and on) If you have never heard that you def need to crawl out from under that rock you have been hiding under! This is def a racist cartoon and a terrorist act on President Obama. Its sad to see that a USA Newspaper would print this mess! It was printed to bring up controversy and madness, and that has def happened. All we can do is remain prayful for President Obama and his family. And most of all for all the racist people in this cold cold WORLD!

Posted by: habinerez | February 19, 2009 8:58 AM | Report abuse

I'm glad to see the hidden racism come out for full view so we don't have to speculate as to who they are. That sorry NY Post is not worth reading and will soon see it's doom because they will have even less readers. I'm not surprised and expect to see much more of this ignorance come forth.

Posted by: thegirl119 | February 19, 2009 9:06 AM | Report abuse

What clueless Republican was behind this?

Posted by: majorteddy | February 19, 2009 9:19 AM | Report abuse

NY Post is promoting assasination of Obama in addition to racist remarks towards him.

This is dangerous.

Posted by: SeedofChange | February 19, 2009 9:24 AM | Report abuse

So, when Bush was called "chimpy" was that racist? When Lincoln (whom all of you love to suggest Obama has some resemblence) was referred to as an ape - was that racist?

I think its an apt metaphor: An out of control, dangerous, bloodthirsty primate attacking America and getting its deserved two to the chest.

Its sad so many play the race card almost out of reflex.

Certainly Sharpton is attempting to angle this into a shakedown - but the rest of you - try acting like adults for a change

Posted by: VirginiaConservative | February 19, 2009 9:26 AM | Report abuse

vallo --

"Congress" writes the bills -- ???????

Not for the last 8 years (at least!)-- the lobbyists on K Street took care of that for the weepublicans.

It's the subliminal message, stupid.

Posted by: thesuperclasssux | February 19, 2009 9:26 AM | Report abuse

This is just the beginning of calling anyone that disagrees with Obama as Racist. For the uninformed Obama DID NOT right the stimulus package. So while this does refer to the monkeys in government it is not a racial reference speficily aimed at Obama. Sorry!! People are not as racist as others want to blame them for being

Posted by: cav217 | February 19, 2009 9:31 AM | Report abuse

On the surface I don't object to the "stimulus monkey". Bush was lampooned as the "smirking chimp". What I do think crosses the line is the "assassination enuendo" by shooting the monkey and connecting it to the stimulus being offered by Obama.

Posted by: demtse | February 19, 2009 9:35 AM | Report abuse

Crying racism is the twenty-first century equivalent of crying wolf. At some point, no one is listening.

I don't care if this cartoon calls Barack Obama a monkey directly. Many people -- myself included -- called George W. Bush a monkey, monkey boy, monkey ears... I'm not the slightest g.d. bit interested in whether anyone thinks calling BO a monkey is racist.

Posted by: srb2 | February 19, 2009 9:36 AM | Report abuse

Since people have long referred to African Americans as monkey's its impossible to not believe that the president was the intended victim in this cartoon, especially given the text and context of the current political landscape. There is no other way to see this and to argue otherwise in inane. I am just appalled that the NY Post depicted the president, any president, as being shot and killed, worse by law enforcement officers. The president is also Commander in Chief and this was the height of disrespect for the Office of the Presidency and the authority of the person currently occupying it by reason of fair and free election of the people of this country. It is monstrously egregious and unconscionable. Making the president the butt of jokes is one thing, depicting him to be an animal and to be shot and killed is absolutely repugnant. The Post will cling to 'free speech' as their ticket to print anything, but could we also cling to morals and scruples too?

Posted by: Truthtotell | February 19, 2009 9:43 AM | Report abuse

I don't see this as being racist... more a reference towards the idea that monkey's are "crazy"... Are all references to monkeys racist? The 'band' the Monkeys? "I'll be a monkey's uncle?" Was Curious George a racist book / movie? The angry closet monkey from Family Guy, is great! I guess you could see that as racist, or you could see it as a reference to some sort of primal / voodoo-ish fear of the unknown / jungle thing... akin to the "Monkey's Paw" (Which I also don't think is racist.)

People need to be very careful not to read too far into something, the furor around this is very serious. This is a classic example of projecting meaning.

I think the worst you can say about this comic is that it isn't really 'funny' or even witty, and like many comics is made more confusing by dent of the fact that it is 'forced'.

Having said all that. I think monkeys are crazy! And it cracks me up to consider our generic ancestry, we should be really careful not to make it impossible for comics to use chimpanzees, monkeys, apes, tree sloths, orangutans or other primates...

Think of the humor we could lose if we take all of those animals out of play.

Posted by: gconrads | February 19, 2009 9:46 AM | Report abuse

This is a stupid, bad and even offensive cartoon, but I don't think it was intended to be racist. I was glad to get to see it "live" so I could make my own assessment. The monkey does not have any resemblance to any public figure I know, and my gut reaction, when you ask me "who wrote the stimulus bill?" is "Congress." If anything, the "monkey" is the whole congress. I'm not offering my opinion of the bill, just trying to interpret a misguided cartoon.

I do think the cartoon is in terribly poor taste, playing on the death of a chimp who was himself at one time a minor celebrity. And the idea (even fleeting) that violence could fix anything is pretty stupid.

Unfortunately, this cartoonist (whose name I am deliberately blocking) is getting a lot of free attention because of this incident. His drawing is pretty good; his idease need a lot of work.

Posted by: raisinmountaineer | February 19, 2009 9:49 AM | Report abuse

Much ado, about what? The perception of racism likely was anticipated by the "cartoonist". They did this to attract attention. We should not give them that.

Posted by: MSchafer | February 19, 2009 9:50 AM | Report abuse

I don't see it as racist because Bush was often compared to a chimp (see: Chimp-o-matic.com). It is, however, in bad taste.

Posted by: Lila1 | February 19, 2009 9:52 AM | Report abuse

By seeing these comments going back and forth to defend racism, or not racism, represents racism. (If you study logic)

Any how it is really sad that White/Euro Americans still don't get it, the base of all sensitive in "this country" starts with slavery, and to be where we are today,shows things can and do change by both black and white americans. However, you still have racist, closet racist, and coward racist, who's insight on the sensitive nature of other human beings is less than theirs.

The cartoon may not have been intended to be racist, but it was tasteless however, and I think the maker of the cartoon, should apologize at least for that, otherwise it was a deliberate attempt to make him/her self popular.

Thank you

Posted by: weaverf | February 19, 2009 9:56 AM | Report abuse

Actually, srb2 brings up a good point.

It would be more truthful to admit that GWB was often drawn by a slew of cartoonists to clearly resemble a monkey.

Which, is a pretty sweet use of caricature.

To say that the chimp is "clearly" Obama seems pretty obtuse. If it were clearly Obama would we be having this discussion?

Is everyone who doesn't see a portrait of Obama here gone 'bananas'?

Again, I don't think the comic is particularly well done or funny, but least of all I would say it is "clear".

Posted by: gconrads | February 19, 2009 9:56 AM | Report abuse

Washington Post will no longer be may news source this cartoon shows the hate they have for blacks.

Posted by: justsayinghigh2 | February 19, 2009 10:03 AM | Report abuse

Yesem !

Posted by: whocares666 | February 19, 2009 10:06 AM | Report abuse

Honestly, I just didn't get the joke. Initially, I thought it was racist, but now I think it's just not that funny, and very badly thought out. On review, I believe the intent was to evoke the "monkeys at typewriters" analogy for the stimulus bill, not anything to do with Obama (the monkey really does look more like "W," frankly). In my opinion, the real screw-up here is the NY Post's editor - this type of misunderstanding is exactly the kind of thing he's paid to avert.

Posted by: gaijinsamurai | February 19, 2009 10:08 AM | Report abuse

Ok, I have put this to my white colleagues, and it mystifies me by their responses.

What are you? They normally say I am white american.

In response I say, you are not, you are Irish, Swedish, German, Australian, Polish, French, etc.....and then American correct?

This is where some of my white colleagues get confused, some didn't want to reconize where their forefathers were from, and some said they were mixed with various forms of Europe.

However, because White Americans didn't distinguish themselves as such, they didn't or don't get to be teased as much, for ex: Irish (or course were known as drunks, and thugs), Italian (Thugs), Sweds(very sexual), Germans(Thugs, Drunks), Polish (Dumb)....now these are the sterotypes per culture.

Can you imagine now your kids being teased, or your kids asking you Daddy, why do people call me a dump pole, or a bastard child from Germany????

Bottom line, it hurts and in this country we are smart enough to know when not to, and obviously this person must be polish.

Thanks

Posted by: weaverf | February 19, 2009 10:09 AM | Report abuse

I don't believe the intent was racist BUT whomever submitted this cartoon should have thought before they chose a chimp as the character. If our president was not of a mixed race, would this cartoon be made such a big deal? I don't think so. But that's just my opinion.

Posted by: maggie_crowder | February 19, 2009 10:10 AM | Report abuse

People see a chimp in a satire and their first thought is that the animal is supposed to represent a black person. That is their problem, not the cartoonist's.

The chimp is clearly not supposed to be Obama - the Messiah didn't draft the stimulus bill, congress did. If only the perpetually outraged would employ their somewhat limited brainpower, they may consider this possibility.

People who are perpetually outraged over things like this have a major chip on their shoulders, one which they have the freedom and the ability to remove - if only they had the wherewithall and the gumption, which they sorely lack.

So let all the outraged folk cry, rant, rave, march, loot, riot, boycott all they want. The rest of us soberly watching this pathetic spectacle will just quietly progress forward, as we always do.

Posted by: bryanmcoleman | February 19, 2009 10:11 AM | Report abuse

Mr. Delonas should have recognized the backlash that would be brought forth through this tasteless comic strip. It is hard to believe that after the changes we have seen these past few months, ignorance is still upon us. We all may not agree on certain issues, but President Obama is still the President and deserves to be respected as such. Mr. Delonas should submit a formal apology and admit he created this comic strip in bad taste.

Posted by: candra79 | February 19, 2009 10:11 AM | Report abuse

This is what happens with the dumbing down of the US population. Too many people don't understand the context or concept of "a chimp with a typwriter" or "a room full of monkeys" as a way of saying this thing is so haphazardly written or put together that similar results could have been achieved that way.
The same goes for people being too poorly informed to understand that, as many here have pointed out, that Congress writes the legislation.

Posted by: blankspace | February 19, 2009 10:17 AM | Report abuse

Personally, I found this comic in extremely poor taste. Before the election, even among Obama supporters, I would frequently hear people apprehensively say that if Obama were elected he would be shot because he was black. After the election, I have found it astonishing how many people felt comfortable suggesting the idea that the new president should be shot. Given the environment prior to the election, it's hard not to think of those comments as more than political sour grapes. In the cartoon, seeing a monkey, frequently used as a racist symbol, shot, when when assassinations have been used as a method of effecting policy by racists, it's hard not to see a racial subtext.

Posted by: girish_joshi | February 19, 2009 10:22 AM | Report abuse

Mr. Delonas is perfectly free to draw and caption whatever he pleases, and if his editors aren't disturbed, it's their newspaper.

But the question remains: If the dead chimp WASN'T supposed to represent Obama, then who WAS it supposed to allude to?

And if Mr. Delonas is truly ignorant of the long history of white people associating black people with monkeys and chimps and gorillas, he must have been born about fifteen minutes ago.

Again, it's his forum, and he can do whatever he wants with it. But unlike the fist-bumping New Yorker cover that was a PARODY of racist attitudes, this one has no such legitimate explanation. It's a racist cartoon, pure and simple.

Posted by: andym108 | February 19, 2009 10:25 AM | Report abuse

There are additional reasons to find this cartoon objectionable:

The use of violence to portray the resolution of differences, especially policy differences, is dangerous.

What is ridiculous is that there was such a bruhaha about "General Betrayus" (simply words that required supplication and abject apologies) and yet in the case of a cartoon in which law enforcement officers shoot "the author of the stimulus bill" which clearly is our president the author merely shrugs it off as a "joke".

Shouldn't the secret service be visiting this "comic" for making indirect threats against our president?

Posted by: eddiehaskel | February 19, 2009 10:28 AM | Report abuse

I think the cartoonist is confused. Chimpy left The White House on January 20th, right?

Posted by: Its_the_Truth_Anyhow | February 19, 2009 10:28 AM | Report abuse

Are you kidding? The moment I saw the cartoon and read the caption, I know exactly what the cartoonist was referring to. And to say he was referring to Pelosi is laughable. Why then use a Chimp and what’s worse, a chimp that had been shot dead. If you don't see it as racist at least see it in poor taste. I did not see any mention of this incident on FOX. Could it be because of the connection with Ruppart Murdock, FOX and the NY Post? Maybe I missed it. Anyway, the cartoon was appalling. More appalling was watching Uncle Tom Ron Christie on TV last night defending this cartoon."
Defenders of this cartoon can pull out every trick in the book to deny the undertones. They can claim it's oh, so innocent (in spite of it being in a paper that has referred to blacks as "animals.") They can scream that the outrage is a double standard, because Bush was compared to a chimp at one time (even though the joke had nothing to do with anti-white racism). But was the monkey shot dead. Does the thought of the assassination of President Obama enter your mind? This is not disturbing to you. They can yell that this is just another one of Al Sharpton's campaigns (even though it's not just Sharpton who's upset by it). They can scream that, "Hey, this cartoon didn't really mean Obama; it meant the writer" (even though everyone associates him as the creator of the stimulus plan).

Posted by: sherardg | February 19, 2009 10:33 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Truthtotell
...The president is also Commander in Chief and this was the height of disrespect for the Office of the Presidency and the authority of the person currently occupying it by reason of fair and free election of the people of this country...
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Oh my, how we can dish it out but can't take it! For the last eight years we conservatives have watched cartoonists depict George Bush in a variety of manners.

Although it is true that Obama was not referenced in this cartoon, hopefully whenever he is satirized, liberals like Truthtotell will think before they stick their literary foot in their collective mouths!

"Height of disrepect"! Oh, puhhhhhhhh-LEEEEEZE!

Posted by: bryanmcoleman | February 19, 2009 10:33 AM | Report abuse

well the cartoon is good ,because is a reflection of your nation.you shoot everybody with new idea of change and the best way is to publish innocent cartoons you have "fear" of change and use the constitution to cover your thought.he just draw what the society allowed him to publish and wath for the reaction of the people.

Posted by: gnzlzjqn | February 19, 2009 10:33 AM | Report abuse

For those who don't think so, how did he arrive at this example. Police shoot a chimp, stimulus package? It's like a plane falls out of the sky, POP TARTS! Makes no sense. What's Political about Police shooting a Chimp? I can't make the association. Just as a plane crash and Pop Tarts. What's the association. Help me out here?! This is the Ugly America the world is whispering about. We are just lucky that the world needs us to make themselves wealthy. If we don't start being honest soon, God Help Us! Our resources are being slowly sapped and our time is running out.

Posted by: minco_007 | February 19, 2009 10:35 AM | Report abuse

Merely invoking "free speech" to defend the decision to publish is a cop out.

Sure, you *have* the right to publish it. But *having* the right to do something does not *make it right* to do it.

Very poor judgment, and the NY Post editors deserve any and all the heat they're getting.

That's not censorship - that's actually free speech at work. Anyone has the right to say something stupid, and I in turn have the right to say, "That's stupid" or "Whoa... ya really oughtn'ta said that."

Posted by: jamshark70 | February 19, 2009 10:36 AM | Report abuse

Why is it that the media always assumes people are being racist and its ALWAYS on one side? I think this is a horrendous double standard that is considered acceptable when it shoudl NOT be. The cartoon was clearly not a racial slur and those that would think something like that have their mind in a place it should not be.

Posted by: Gamergirl02 | February 19, 2009 10:41 AM | Report abuse

thesuperclasssux wrote: I wonder if your condescending dismissal of the criticism leveled at the Post would be the same, if, for instance, a cartoon showing the bullet-riddled body of the weepublican Party's unofficial leader -- Rush Limpballs -- was featured in the NY Times or WaPo????

Hmmmmmmmmm?
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Probably...I can't stand Limbaugh and I'm not a Republican (even so, I can write both type both without sophmoric namecalling) I am an Independent who can clearly see that both parties leave a lot to be desired. But nice try...

Point is, there have been a lot of jokes made at the expense of presidents past as well as all other politicians (lets face it, they invite criticism) ...Obama worshippers better grow thicker skin, look how worked up you all got when the joke wasn't even directed at him.

Posted by: JustMeSterling | February 19, 2009 10:43 AM | Report abuse

Oh my, how we can dish it out but can't take it! For the last eight years we conservatives have watched cartoonists depict George Bush in a variety of manners.

Although it is true that Obama was not referenced in this cartoon, hopefully whenever he is satirized, liberals like Truthtotell will think before they stick their literary foot in their collective mouths!

"Height of disrepect"! Oh, puhhhhhhhh-LEEEEEZE!

Posted by: bryanmcoleman | February 19, 2009 10:33 AM
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You just don't get it. Have you ever seen Bush depicted as assassinated and as a monkey too? You sir are an idiot.

Posted by: sherardg | February 19, 2009 10:43 AM | Report abuse

This is his history to denigrate blacks, women and gays. Some of his previous hatefilled work at this link yhttp://gawker.com/5155855/ten-masterpieces-from-sean-delonas.

Posted by: rlj1 | February 19, 2009 10:44 AM | Report abuse

VirginiaConservative asked, "was it racist when Bush was called "chimpy" or when Lincoln was called an ape? Before you answer that question ask yourself at what time in American history were white people belittled by being called monkeys, apes or chimps. I was once told by a white man that he was going to cut my ear off and send me back to the zoo with the rest of them. So here is my question to Virginia Conservative and anyone else who holds VC views. Was this racist white man talking about the elephants, the lions, the bears or the monkeys? Go ahead an call a spade a spade this cartoon is racist the editor and the cartoonist knew exactlly what they were doing and we the voters knew what we were doing when we voted PRESIDENT OBAMA in office.

Posted by: truevoice | February 19, 2009 10:47 AM | Report abuse

Look at the Cartoon. Bullet holes in the monkey's body, blood on the sidewalk and two cops, one with smoke raising from his just fired gun. AND YOU DON'T FIND THIS TROUBLING?

Posted by: sherardg | February 19, 2009 10:47 AM | Report abuse

The monkey is not racist. Nothing about this cartoon is racist. The problem is, the implication that Obama should be shot because of his stimulus bill.

Posted by: demtse | February 19, 2009 10:49 AM | Report abuse

Good Job New York Post!

Yesterday Attorney General Eric Holder called ALL Americans cowards because we need more dialogue and frankness on race relations.

Well there you go Mr Holder ---is this enough discussion for you?!

Posted by: srloring | February 19, 2009 10:51 AM | Report abuse

"Puff the Magic Negro" was more racist than this...

Posted by: demtse | February 19, 2009 10:52 AM | Report abuse

I agree with several posters who said the main problem with this cartoon is that it simply conflates two completely unrelated matters--rampaging chimp and stimulus bill--in a manner more suited to schizophrenic delusion than to the editorial page of a New York newspaper.

That said, this cartoonist has a long history of penning utterly bigoted work which the NY Post has gladly run; e.g., his cartoon during the fight over gay marriage in which an obviously epicene man arrives at the license bureau with a sheep under his arm. Ahhhh...gay marriage equals bestiality. Thanks for that.

Also, it should be noted that both cops in the drawing are, uh, white.

Posted by: jhpurdy | February 19, 2009 10:53 AM | Report abuse

It seem that we are in twilight zone and someone wants to tell us what we really are seeing is not what we really see. Racism is like porn, what is funny to one man may be an insult to another. If we want to decied what is racisn to another group. GOOD LUCK, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T TELL A PERSON WHAT IS AND IS NOT RACIST.

Posted by: navydvldoc | February 19, 2009 10:54 AM | Report abuse

For this monkey joke to be legit, there must have been a previous prominent comment in the news that the stimulus bill is so convoluted that it must have been written by a chimp. This set-up isn't out there in the general ether, as far as I have ever heard. Because this cartoonist is too inept to know this, readers are then left to try and figure out the connection of the chimp to the bill. I don't know how much publicity the chimp story got in the first place, so that piece of the puzzle is also mostly unavailable to the hapless reader. Sorry, but the stimulus bill is more associated with Obama than with Congress, clearly as an individual; congress is a collective, and can't be lampooned as an individual. [Ok, put a pearl necklace on the chimp, and it's Pelosi?] The next step is--absent the pearls, does this cartoonist mean to imply that Obama is a chimp? That's the only conclusion possible. If you choose to find that racist, you have every right. And certainly, rabid racists will see that right away. I'm not going to touch the shooting aspect of the cartoon--that's just too too idiotic and dumb on the cartoonist's part. What a jerk. I think it's just a stupid cartoonist who thought he/she could link two news events, and thusly produce something "funny". Epic FAIL!

Posted by: Kas300 | February 19, 2009 11:00 AM | Report abuse

Not racist, just dumb.

Posted by: Theophylact | February 19, 2009 11:02 AM | Report abuse

Truthtotell wrote: Since people have long referred to African Americans as monkey's its impossible to not believe that the president was the intended victim in this cartoon.
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REALLY???
Bush was called a chimp for 8 years...not defending him--I'm honestly not a fan of his but he was called a chimp and THAT obviously was not related to his race.


Posted by: JustMeSterling | February 19, 2009 11:05 AM | Report abuse

Think:
"Stimulus Plan, Monkey, Dead Monkey, Assassinate Monkey, message: Assassinate President Obama. Don't any of you morons who do not see this as a problem get it? Never mind Sharpton, never mind racism, its a threat on an American President!!! Yes, we saw Bush as a monkey buy never depicted as an assassinated monkey." Have you ever seen Bush as a monkey and liking dead in the street with two cops over him and blood on the street? And all these idiots can do is refer to Al Sharpton.

Posted by: sherardg | February 19, 2009 11:07 AM | Report abuse

Oh, and the cartoon is really ugly, too.

Posted by: Kas300 | February 19, 2009 11:07 AM | Report abuse

I would have preferred to vote "both". If the point is "this bill could have been written by monkeys", it's a clumsy, unfunny way to do it. Young people might not see the imagery's racist taint, but apes and monkeys were used in that way during the 2008 campaign and for decades before as racial slurs. I think liberal talk show hosts are being as silly about this as Fox News was when Obama made his lipstick on a pig comment. The dead chimp isn't meant to represent Obama and a painted hog does not remind me of Sarah Palin. Now can't we all just get along?

Posted by: greyparrot | February 19, 2009 11:10 AM | Report abuse

of course its racist. Delonas is always attacking some minority group and the New York Post is known for being a right wing newspaper.

Posted by: rj2008 | February 19, 2009 11:23 AM | Report abuse

If one would logic that the Post had no intention of being racist when printing this cartoon, but that they probably expected responses from minorities decrying the cartoon, then why would they have expected comments from minorities unless they thought that the cartoon could even possibliy be interpreted as a slight against the President--albeit a dipiction of him as a monkey? If the Post expected that even one person of the minority race would think that they were referring to the President as a monkey, then that thought in and of itself shows that that was something that they considered.

Posted by: Beingsensible | February 19, 2009 11:24 AM | Report abuse

The NY Post is owned by Rupert Murdoch, who owns Fox News. Connect the dots.

Posted by: August30 | February 19, 2009 11:33 AM | Report abuse

I thought you would like to see Ron Christie's response on CNN last night. What a sad Tom he his.

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2009/02/19/ac.racist.cartoon.cnn?iref=videosearch

Posted by: sherardg | February 19, 2009 11:38 AM | Report abuse

And, Al Sharpton just needs to shut up in general. I wonder how many people would have been offended by the cartoon if Al hadn't put the notion of racism in their heads by opening his fat mouth?

Posted by: JMGinPDX
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I don't know about others who have expressed their offense about this cartoon, but I can tell you about my family. While I was getting dressed Yesterday morning, my 22 year old son who is a fire fighter brought the cartoon to my attention. When he showed it to me I could hear the disgust in his voice as he said "mommy look at this; can you believe how racist this is and it's from New York." My comment back to him was "people will be racist and that's just a fact of life"; at the time I had no idea that he had gotten the commic strip from the New York Post, I thought he had retrieve it from YouTube where there are many racist hiding behind the internet much like they do on the Washington Post On-line print. But when I found out that it was actually posted in a major newspaper, it was most offensive to me, because I expect more from print media--I don't know why I should since they can be some of the racist people in the country with a right to spew hatred under the cover of "Freedom of the Press." So offended I am, but surprised I'm not.

Posted by: Beingsensible | February 19, 2009 11:40 AM | Report abuse

nd, Al Sharpton just needs to shut up in general. I wonder how many people would have been offended by the cartoon if Al hadn't put the notion of racism in their heads by opening his fat mouth?

Posted by: JMGinPDX
Your dislike for Sharpton is not the issue. In answer to your question, probably more. Maybe even you.

Posted by: sherardg | February 19, 2009 11:53 AM | Report abuse

DOs and Donts for Black and White America:

If you are white - do not use the "N" word in mixed company.


If you are white - never state that minorities are being "too sensitive" about race. No victims of racial inequities can ever be too sensitive. Jewish people, Japenese people, American Indians or Blacks and Hispanics can ever be too sensitive. When you make that statement, you are inviting others to question your heart.


If you are black, never accept an invitation to any social event that has the following words associated with it: KLAN, Wizard, Grand, Imperial, Monkey, Hanging, etc...


If you are Black or White or any other race, never use or imply a person of color with the image of or mere mention of a monkey, ape, gorilla or any member of the "ape" family. It is fair game to make that association with a white person - since white people were never the victims of this particular racial stereotype (blacks being referred to as monkeys). It will never be understood as a joke in any context just as we would never joke about the holocaust or the plight of the American Indians.


I know that it does not seem fair, but these are some of the boundaries in life that we all have, that we cannot cross.

Posted by: SPUD2 | February 19, 2009 12:05 PM | Report abuse

The disrespect is obvious, Mr Obama is our
president like it or not, He deserves the
same respect all the presidents before him
received....Whoever approved this cartoon
and whoever did this cartoon should be fired.

I will never spent my money on a paper who
not only disrespect our president, they also are disrespecting all races.

Posted by: edhenndog | February 19, 2009 12:14 PM | Report abuse

The washington post not only let the american people down but they let the post
down also.

Posted by: edhenndog | February 19, 2009 12:16 PM | Report abuse

I wish they wouldn't have made this cartoon because it triggers the violent images I can't get out of my mind about the horrific animal attack on that poor women.

Racist - no. Bad taste - yes.

Posted by: playfair109 | February 19, 2009 12:17 PM | Report abuse

I think the cartoon is just what it is, a cartoon. There are those who will turn anything they can into a racial attack and it results in fewer expressions of free speech. Obama has to earn respect, and will from time to time take some heat, but this is still America, we have a right to express our views or to do a cartoon without fear of ignorance based charges of racism just because we have a black president. We should respect our Presidents, but ALL our Presidents, not just the current one . God Bless our troops.

Posted by: doubleeagle76 | February 19, 2009 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Some Peoples Kids ! Did you take your meds , this morning ? Little SohnnD ?

Posted by: alloypony01 | February 19, 2009 12:32 PM | Report abuse

There comes a time in one's life to accept the fact that no matter how much society uses these sublumminal messages to express the coward way of representating who u r as a cartoonist and those that find nothing wrong.. you r racist and do not have the courage to speak out loud. Our president is an african american how defeated r u whites to know that all you have done to keep the african culture down u still have a black president, blacks making more money black billionares black doctors, lawyers...So who is really the monkey here take a look at yourself sean, washington post and all those who find this acceptable shame on you

Posted by: blkpanther | February 19, 2009 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Sean Delonas and his editor should be fired ASAP if not sooner you would have to be an imbecile not to know this cartoon would invoke outrage and disdain not only in the black community but also in the mind of any right thinking person, it was insensitive and stupid,at a time when we are all trying move into a new perspective concerning racial harmony led by Pres.Obama this cartoon was insulting and obviously way out of line.

Posted by: dargregmag | February 19, 2009 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Jokes have a formula for 90% truth, 10% absurdity. I TRY to give comedians and artists in general the breathing room for creativity, but this one crossed the absurdity threshold by a large margin.
Sean Delonas and his editor should issue an apology for the decision and their callousness. It was very offensive.

Posted by: HalimaBlue | February 19, 2009 1:00 PM | Report abuse

The moment I saw it my mind immediately went to the old cartoons of blacks w/ tails & monkey faces. Some may try to defend it as non-racist/satire, but the idiocy and bad taste are inexcusable.

Posted by: nonsensical2001 | February 19, 2009 1:28 PM | Report abuse

You can put lipstick on a pig...but it's still a pig.

Posted by: leftycatcher | February 19, 2009 1:31 PM | Report abuse

I keep an open mind when viewing a political cartoon to see if I "get it." I don't understand what the artist intended, but I don't understand how the cartoon is relevant or funny. I do think it could have been funny if the word-ballon would have been, " Number 43 will never be able to write his White House memories now."

Posted by: sperrico | February 19, 2009 1:32 PM | Report abuse

OK.

Anyone calling someone Uncle Tom because of their opinion these days is clearly a lot more racist than the comic was.

Labeling someone an Uncle Tom as a way of dismissing their view point is as bad as it gets...

Posted by: gconrads | February 19, 2009 1:35 PM | Report abuse


At best, it is a poorly conceived cartoon that fails to take into account

--poltical assasinations
--police abuse
--negative portrayals of trigger-happy peace officers
--negative portrayals of people of color

Other than that, it's still not very funny and doesn't say much about The Post, its readers or the people who live in the City of New York.

Based on how un-funny it is, it wouldn't hurt my feelings if the Post went out of business, thereby putting that cartoonist out of the newspaper business. I thought the MSM had higher standards than this?

It makes Barry Blitt's New Yorker magazine cover look like an expression of deep subtlety and thought, with a touch of anxiety perhaps? Which, now that Obama won the election, maybe it was!

Has everyone forgotten that we used to call George W. Bush "the smirking chimp"?


Posted by: tony_in_Durham_NC | February 19, 2009 1:40 PM | Report abuse

OK.

Anyone calling someone Uncle Tom because of their opinion these days is clearly a lot more racist than the comic was.

Labeling someone an Uncle Tom as a way of dismissing their view point is as bad as it gets...

Posted by: gconrads | February 19, 2009 1:35 PM
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You are right. The are Uncle Toms, they are boot licking lackeys. Sorry

Posted by: sherardg | February 19, 2009 1:43 PM | Report abuse

It was a stupid, pointless cartoon that should have never been published. Regardless of the intent, the NY Post should have some editorial standards. Wait it is the New York Post so it has NO editorial standards. It is just a crappy paper. BTW Robinhood2 you are racist and stupid.

Posted by: scrappyc20001 | February 19, 2009 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Remember how hysterically violent muslims got about cartoons of their Mohammed?

Same thing happens with the loony-left liberals and cartoons of their Messiah.

Lighten-up, loonies.

Posted by: LoonyLeft | February 19, 2009 1:48 PM | Report abuse

People think they are being cute making racist remarks and cartoons and leaving themselves "plausible deniability". This cartoon is a clear example. It obviously intends to compare black people with chimps. But the author leaves himself just enough wiggle room to claim that he was just saying that the bill was so bad chimps could have written it. In just about any Post article about politics that allows comments from readers you can find these clever racist remarks. Some genius figured he could refer to Obama as the "Boy King" or "Boy Prince". See, he wasn't using "boy" as a racial slur, he was just making a reference to Obama's youth and inexperience. Sure. For a real festival of hate, check out the barely restrained glee of those commenting on stories about racoons at the White House.

Posted by: spidey103 | February 19, 2009 1:59 PM | Report abuse

As often happens, the news becomes the news. In this case, the cartoon has become the subject of cartoons, e.g.:

http://jumpersbloghouse.blogspot.com/2009/02/turnabout-is-fair-play.html

Posted by: seismic-2 | February 19, 2009 1:59 PM | Report abuse

The racism is horrible enough, but it doesn't stop there, does it? No, it advocates and makes light of deadly violence. Bush was compared to a chimp, too, as I recall, for different reasons, and I don't recall any of these types of him in a pool of blood cartoons in the New York Post or any other news outlet. These winky wink, it's all in your imagination, atta boy responses don't cut it. Someone should be in jail.

Posted by: SarahBB | February 19, 2009 2:00 PM | Report abuse

This is just another racist intimidation tactic by Al Sharpton. He wants to make people afraid to say anything that could even remotely be mislabeled as having anti-black implications. Obama didn't write the stimulus bill, it was Congressional Democrats (mostly Euro-American ethnicity.) We reject the old aspersion that blacks are simian, just as we reject the old Jim Crow rule that one drop of black blood makes a person completely "black." Obama is as white as he is black, and Al Sharpton likely has the average 17% caucasion genetics that most "black" Americans have. Sharpton's racist divisiveness no longer applies in this new world of a clearly mixed-race President.

Posted by: Religulous | February 19, 2009 2:13 PM | Report abuse

It is a stupid cartoon and it does have racial implications, but I don't believe that was the artist's intention. It's just way to blantant to say Obama is a monkey, there must be some sort of subtext or misinterpretation.

Posted by: ozpunk | February 19, 2009 2:32 PM | Report abuse

This cartoon was not at all racist and it seems that people in the States are so sensitive that they get hysterical every time someone might, maybe, possibly, in some way, be thinking something negative of someone who is black. Give me a break!

If you can't take the heat then stay out of the kitchen. The president and congress and their actions are fair game for skewering and this cartoon is indeed skewering the idiotic stimulus package -- so dumb a monkey must have written it -- and not discussing color.

Posted by: comicfan1 | February 19, 2009 2:33 PM | Report abuse

I'm planning on becoming a racist so I can say whatever I want, and set myself outside the boundries of the whacked out Liberal PC Police and their cronies.

Liberals and Obamaniacs will see this as a racist issue because it allows them to retain leverage over the GOP.
The cult like behavior, which is very similar to Muslim cult behavior..i.e. the Danish cartoon fiasco, is evident.

I imagine that soon, it will be considered racist to even mention or wear the color black.
A black man has obtained the highest office in the land, yet blacks still feel that whites owe them everything. Typical.

Posted by: Thozmaniac | February 19, 2009 2:57 PM | Report abuse

In our history, three Presidents were shot to death, one President was shot and injured, one Presidential candidate was shot to death, and one very prominent civil rights activist was shot to death. We have a long history of shooting Presidents and civil rights activists.

Now, who's stimulus package is it?

The caption indicates the victim is the stimulus act's author. The cartoonist himself asserts that, if anyone, the cartoon would reference Nancy Pelosi, not Obama (I'm not a Pelosi fan, but is it somehow better to depict the Speaker of the House as a monkey shot dead on the sidewalk than the President?). However, the stimulus package referenced in the cartoon is associated with Obama in popular opinion, not Pelosi.

The proof? Enter "Obama's stimulus" in Google, you get 2,600,000 hits. Enter ”Pelosi's stimulus," and you get 16,000. It is Delonas' job to understand that political cartoons do not work unless they tap into the collective population's understanding, and we clearly associate Obama with this package.

Others deny that comparing African Americans to primates is a well-established racial slur. In fact, back in 1983 when Howard Cosell innocently referred to an African American wide receiver as a "monkey" in describing his agility, he lost his Monday Night Football gig.

But no matter - let's check the Racial Slur Database! http://www.rsdb.org/ Scroll down to "monkey" and what do you find? Oh, yeah, it’s a racial slur against blacks, all right!

This is a cartoon that in effect seeks to first dehumanize and then promote the shooting of our President. There is a line crossed here that is very close to sedition.

Posted by: justathought3 | February 19, 2009 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Referring to the ignorant comments made by the previous writer and the cartoon by that no talent cartoonist. Blacks do not feel whites owe them everything. We want the same thing whites want RESPECT and whether you believe it or not racism is still alive and well. Besides your ancestors have never been referred to as monkeys so I know you can't relate--get a grip! As far as the no talent, racist, cartoonist what can you say when stupidity is shown in it's truest form. I am more concern about the promotion of violence against the President than the racist context. What a jerk, doesn't he realize there are white supremacist, the KKK and other radical organizations that are bursting at the seams with hatred. I'm guessing he belongs to one those organizations, that's why he felt comfortable doing something so tasteless-- but look who employs him. Enough said..

Posted by: sboudreaux3 | February 19, 2009 3:59 PM | Report abuse

I'm planning on becoming a racist so I can say whatever I want, and set myself outside the boundries of the whacked out Liberal PC Police and their cronies.

Liberals and Obamaniacs will see this as a racist issue because it allows them to retain leverage over the GOP.
The cult like behavior, which is very similar to Muslim cult behavior..i.e. the Danish cartoon fiasco, is evident.

I imagine that soon, it will be considered racist to even mention or wear the color black.
A black man has obtained the highest office in the land, yet blacks still feel that whites owe them everything. Typical.

Posted by: Thozmaniac | February 19, 2009 2:57 PM

WILL BECOME, LOOKS LIKE YOU ARE ALREADY A RACIST BRAT THOZ. YOU ARE WHAT YOU SAY. IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW YOU FEEL, OBAMA IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE U.S FOR FOUR YEARS FOR SURE, SO GET OVER IT.

Posted by: wisedecision08yahoocom | February 19, 2009 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Gee.. Blacks get a life... why are you afraid of everything anyone publishes...just ignore it.. just like we ignore you... duh....

Posted by: robinhood2 | February 18, 2009 8:32 PM

ROBIN take your white HOOD off for a second after you kiss my a$$

Posted by: wisedecision08yahoocom | February 19, 2009 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Then why did/does the media report that the stimulus bill was written by Pelosi and other House democrats? I took this cartoon to mean that the bill was written by people as politcially smart as a monkey or that "a monkey could have written a better bill"

Posted by: ahashburn | February 19, 2009 5:40 PM | Report abuse

If as explained by NYPost, the cartoon was meant to mock the stimulus package by comparing it to to the chimp that was shot after attacking the woman in CT, I don't get it. The chimp was killed, the writers of the legislation were not. The legislation passed. Why caption it, "They'll have to find someone else to write the next stimulus package"? Who are the cartoon police? It was a macabre cartoon.

Regarding the use of the chimp, my first thought when I saw it was that the chimp was a characterization of the president, and that it was racist and also horrifying, w/the chimp shot and lying in a pool of blood. It strains credulity to believe the cartoonist & editors didn't at least recognize that others might see that way. I still believe it was racist and done purposefully. The stimulus plan is called Obama's by the media.

Posted by: claire2 | February 19, 2009 5:46 PM | Report abuse

I don't see this to be racist. It is about politics! If it were about racism, then the same people who are claiming this comic to be racist would also be claiming the Halloween decoration of John McCain coming out of a chimmney with devil horns racist. Racial slur there is "white man is the devil". If you want the country to stand up against racism, then you need to stand up against ALL racism. Evolution claims ALL humans are monkeys, and if you believe in evolution then you are just a big ape!

Posted by: whowhathuh | February 19, 2009 6:32 PM | Report abuse

Missing from the poll is a percentage of those among the 37% who don't see this as racist is a breakdown of how many of those respondents have no problem with racism.

Posted by: SarahBB | February 19, 2009 7:31 PM | Report abuse

It's not the cartoonist, or even the Post that is really at the heart of this crap --- it's the Empire, people.

Nothing is any more representative of the arrogant, detached, guileful, murderous 'corporate financial Empire' that has totally taken over our country behind the facade of its 'Vichy' two-party sham of democracy and 'free market' fundamentalist tribal theology than Rupert and his shilling News Corp NYPost and FOX.

If you don't confront Empire, it won't moderate its behavior, and it certainly won't go away by asking NICELY, but rather like the last fascist/corporatist empire (the Nazi Empire) it will keep increasing and expanding its oppression, tyranny, and murder to support its insatiable (and ultimately unsustainable) need for 'economic power' --- over all but the elite. That’s simply what Economic Empire does --- and all empires are (always) an economic pathology first and foremost.

Posted by: macturna1 | February 19, 2009 10:01 PM | Report abuse

A more obvious interpretation is the comics intelligent merging of the recent Chimp attack on Ms. Nash, and the stimulus bill. Two separate events merged for the intent of a good laugh, smart humor, not an act of hatred.

If one insists that the monkey is President Obama, then they would also need to admit that other presidents have been depicted as monkeys as well, google search for "President Bush, Monkey" and you'll get countless associations. Even that relation has nothing to do with race.

While in a few cases criticism of President Obama may truly stem from racism, in this case it is a gross distortion of the comic in question.

I commend the Post for not apologizing.

Posted by: dakila400 | February 19, 2009 10:08 PM | Report abuse

Now that your 'Apology' equals your cartoon, do you think you can rise above a 3rd grade level of journalism by delivering grown-up headlines?

Maybe you could even attend a class with O'Reilly & learn how to be witty.

Forget racism and politics....look at the gun, blood and death as the author's solution to disagreement. Wonder how many students took this cartoon to school for 'sharing' today? How many more will decipher your 'back-handed' apology?

Who needs outside terrorists when we have the Washington Post & Fox's team to stir things up when they're bored?

For the record I'm white and old enough to be ashamed that America's media continues to promote racism and violence.

Posted by: flowermerchant | February 20, 2009 1:21 AM | Report abuse

OK, I can see how this can be racist. But only a racist would assume this is racist. The biggest problem with racism in this country is the people who are so against it that they are creating it. I am all for equality, but how can you be for equality and make a big deal out of the fact that we have a non white president. Thats racist. Praise his intelligence, young age, or one of his many other non race related characteristics. Why is it such a big deal that our president has dark skin? Because you are racist. Praising someone because of their race is still racism. Get a clue America. I love my country and breaking boundaries is great, but what we are doing is defeating the purpose. get past the racism and look at the politics. anyone who assumes a joke about a monkey is racist, whether it is or not, is a racist for thinking that.

Posted by: lipz18 | February 20, 2009 1:48 AM | Report abuse

First of all, Al Sharpton is without question a racist. Racism is his stock in trade. Without racism, he's out of business. He is also a consumate Socialist. Hence, I'm skeptical of any alarms that he sets off--he's a trouble maker, inflammatory.

The comic obviously references the stupidity of the legislation, which was written by humans, but dumb enough to have been written by a beast. Sharpton's take is merely one more instance of a mean spirited, American hating leftest attempting to censor any criticism of the left or the left's works.

Though polls show that African Americans are as a group extremely conservative, Sharpton and his ilk continually play on racial sensitivities to manipulate his followers. Many of us are sick of his brand of racism. His attack of this cartoon is extremely racist.

Posted by: yhb00 | February 20, 2009 2:29 AM | Report abuse

Clearly this comic screams racism to our class. Whatever Seans purpose was he should have known this would come off as racist, if that was never the intent he should have left the caption off and allowed the people to come to there own conclusion based on the picture.

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Posted by: monarchhistoryclass954 | February 20, 2009 8:23 AM | Report abuse

NYPost: Headline: 'PORKY' POKE AT OBAMA'S STIMULUS PLAN
Today's NYPost Headline: O's Mortgage Rescue Spurs Rage & Praise

So, it never occurred to NYPost editors that readers would see the chimp as a characterization of the president? That's a bridge too far.

NYPost non-apology Apology? "This most certainly was not its intent; to those who were offended by the image, we apologize."

Thanks, but no thanks to that apology.

Posted by: claire2 | February 20, 2009 8:57 AM | Report abuse

Unbelievable, I now know why we have a socialist for President. No one but the cartoonist can say what was intended, but when I look at not one but two and soon to be three Democratic designed "STIMULIS BILLS" that stimulate nothing but more money taken from me I see the relavence of this cartoon. Simply put if the original creators (our democratic lawmakers) of the stimulis package were gone another big spending democrat would just step in and carry on the tradition. The only people who see this as racist are the ones still clinging to that lifestyle belief. We need to be worried about where this country is now headed instead of a cartoon that the cartoonist has the constitutional gift to be able to write

Posted by: SatchsDado | February 20, 2009 9:08 AM | Report abuse

As per usual the racist promoters and the racism promoting black community leaders immediately jumped on their bandwagons to link President Obama and the chimp.

I saw the cartoon as indicating that all the politicians who wrote the so-called economic stimulus bill have proven by it that they have the intelligence level of crazed evolutionary throwbacks, or that they must have had a mad chimp write the stupid thing.

Posted by: josephthepoet | February 20, 2009 9:14 AM | Report abuse

This cartoon is lambasting the writers of the stimulus package, not the president! Why are people trying to make something more out of this than that! The president didn’t write the bill.

The Attorney General of the US recently called us cowards? I am not a coward; let’s talk about race in America. But let’s tell the whole ugly truth about it while we are at it!

There are racists of every skin color and political persuasion in the country. We have come a long way and we still have a long way to go. But we haven't been ducking or dodging this issue because it is impossible to do so!

Where was the outrage when former Sec of State Rice was depicted as a parrot sitting on the president’s finger? Where was the protest when Sec of State Rice was depicted as a monkey on the leash of the President as the organ grinder?

I didn't see or hear one protest about any of that from those who claim they want to champion the cause for those who are discriminated against!

No comments from the "Reverends" or anyone else who shows up to defend the black race whenever any slight (real or imagined) takes place. Where were they on the behalf of Dr. Rice?

(Insert cricket chirping here)

"I believe that thou doeth protest too much..."

The cartoon was in poor taste, most political cartoons are. Racist it was not! Is this the new transparency and tolerance we were promise we would see? Where is it? I am still looking for it!

WarrenM in Mansfield, Ma

Posted by: Ablackman1 | February 20, 2009 9:41 AM | Report abuse

One other thing...

Want to protest real racist cartoons?

How about the Ted Rall 2004 cartoon which depicted Dr. Rice as Bush’s ‘house nigga’. The word ‘nigga’ was actually used in the cartoon!!!

Or Jeff Danziger’s cartoon depicting Dr. Rice as a ‘mammy’.

No protests, no outrage by ANY of the usual CHAMPIONS of injustice! Even when these so-called champions were ASKED to get involved, they did nothing!

Who are the cowards here?

They are the cowards!

"You ARE the weakest link, goodbye!"

WarrenM in Mansfield, MA

Posted by: Ablackman1 | February 20, 2009 10:21 AM | Report abuse

How the New York Post Monkey Cartoon Should've Looked, HuffPo Link: http://tinyurl.com/btob7q

Posted by: claire2 | February 20, 2009 11:55 AM | Report abuse

I personally believe that this was in fact a racist cartoon. All signs point to it. Back when racism was a big issue African Americans were considered as monkeys. They were not seen as humans but as an animal, a monkey.

What was the message that the cartoonist was trying to portray. Its nothing positive about it. It is directed to Obama. Who else is writing the stimulus bills. Of course it has to go through congress. so why didn't they have anything linking congress to the comic. There was simply 1 chimp. Just as there is one president. And then there were two Caucasian police officers holding the gun.
This cartoon screams racist.

I am both white and black. I see things from both points of view. But this message is just wrong. Racism has been hidden over the past couple of years but it is now reviving itself.

I don't understand why there is so much hatred based on the color of someones skin. Its pointless.

Posted by: curtia427 | February 20, 2009 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Even if the comic was comparing blacks to chimps, who cares? It seems that the similarity is too close to home for America's blacks to be so upset. Shut up and go find the next worthless thing to take bogus offense to and see if it gets you somewhere. If blacks want to be equal, they need to quit crying every time something "offends" them (and let's face it, this NEVER offended anyone it was bogus rage that only served as a publicity stunt). It like using the Rodney King as an excuse to pillage and burn; it was opportunism at its worst. At least they aren't doing that this time. Whites can't and wouldn't protest anything comparing or outright calling them "crackers" or the like. Maybe Whites should stand outside of Nabisco and protest their saltines. Dry your eyes and quit complaining. I'm multi-ethnic myself and I don't think that you have the "right" to never be offended. Grow up and shut up.

Posted by: voltairesangryglove | February 20, 2009 3:40 PM | Report abuse

I’m sick and tired of all the racism going around these days. I have decided that I am boycotting all Spanish speaking people until they change their language to remove the word “negro.” This is offensive to black people. Also, how much longer are we going to oppress the black man by forcing Obama to live in the “White House?” These arguments are silly, I know. But when liberal “racism hawks” start claiming that every political reference to a monkey is racist, I start getting pissed off.
A few years ago, my younger brother, who hardly knew what racism was at the time, was teaching a summer program for a community youth program. When the kids were acting crazy at one point, he said, “Settle down guys. You’re acting like a bunch of monkeys.” It stirred up a whole controversy simply because the organization was in an inner city area and primarily served African-Americans. Now I call my kids monkeys all the time. Monkeys are wild and crazy. They are a perfect illustration of that childish type of behavior.
When I was in the Marine Corps we had a common expression when things seemed unorganized or out of control. We would say, “This looks like a bunch of monkeys humping a football.” Now, a common theme when discussing the military lately has been the assumption that recruiters target African-Americans. So, this must have been a racist statement too right? Of course not! It’s a comment about how unorganized monkeys are.
Now, when a chimpanzee attacks a woman and puts her in the hospital. Is that a statement about how violent black people are? No. And when a satirist uses that incident to point out how ignorant the stimulus bill is (a bill that assumes giving Americans an extra $13 per paycheck will stimulate the economy) it is also not racist. Monkeys are ignorant. So are the politicians (white, black and Hispanic) who wrote the stimulus bill.
You know who else is ignorant? Anyone who thinks Sean Delonas’s comic could possibly be about Obama. I am amazed that politicians and reporters could completely gloss over the fact that Obama is NOT ALLOWED to write the stimulus bill. Our constitution gives legislative power (writing and passing laws and bills) to Congress. It gives executive power to the president. He can sign it into law and he can stop it from becoming law but he can’t write it. If the caption said “sign” instead of “write” you would have a case for racism, but as it is, the argument is just plain stupid. I voted for Obama and I hate racism. But I also hate “racism hawks” and their equally bigoted hate mongering. Every white man that mentions a monkey isn’t racist. Get over it!

Posted by: dberkley | February 21, 2009 3:44 PM | Report abuse

I think this is funny, yes it does indicate Obama. but it is not racist, I don't even understand where people get that. Where is Free Speech when someone can not call the President a monkey...

Obama has not done what he has promised... He has forgotten about his "Bi-partisan" mentality... when he pushed through his stimulus bill... he did not care what the Republicans thought, he used his party's superiority to do what he wanted...

He had one of the worst spending records in the senate... now he has become the president to spend the most $$$ in the first 100days, which people claim is how presidents will spend their time in office... that is scary... Ray Bradbury said this: "We need not to be let alone. We need to be really bothered once in a while. How long is it since you were really bothered? About something important, about something real?" well i think this counts...

now Obama says he will cut the deficit in half? by the end of his term... how will he ever do that with is habit of spend first as questions later? he could have saved himself some trouble if he did not go out and spend all that $$.

Posted by: QuantumPhysics1932 | February 22, 2009 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Getting away from the underlying racist themes for a moment I wonder if anyone took a moment to consider whether the woman who was attacked by that chimp finds this cartoon funny...I seriously doubt it.

Posted by: blackman1 | February 22, 2009 2:55 PM | Report abuse

A big problem with race conversations in America has to do with how much we oversimplify things - as you can see in the language of the poll above. There is a middle ground between those two choices. The cartoonist was not thinking about Obama at all. But that complete lack of consideration of race issues and awareness of history, in itself, is a type of racism.

Posted by: jbadams1 | February 22, 2009 6:09 PM | Report abuse

So chimps, monkeys, and gorillas are now off-limits to cartoonists because they may be interpreted racist, even when the context clearly points otherwise?

Obama didn't write the stimulus bill. When I first saw the cartoon *I* immediately thought of the congressional staffers who wrote the bill and shrugged my shoulders.

Posted by: Bluefish2012 | February 24, 2009 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Clearly this comic screams racism to our class. Whatever Seans purpose was he should have known this would come off as racist, if that was never the intent he should have left the caption off and allowed the people to come to there own conclusion based on the picture.

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This could be the most worrisome post. It makes me wonder what these kids are being taught. One thing is for sure. READING is not one of the main subjects. Who ever the teacher is for this class needs to be fired. She/he is either teaching racism or not teaching reading. Either way the teacher needs to go.

Posted by: askgees | February 24, 2009 3:11 PM | Report abuse

As a democrat and a believer of free speech this is perfectly fine. The thing is, I don't even care if it did depict Obama. It was meant to infer that an idiot wrote this bill. While I don't necessarily agree, I can't honestly sit here and say the same thing wasn't said about Bush. Google "chimp and George Bush". Click on images. See what I mean. Obama is the president and will be open to criticism. He is our president period, not black or white. Al Sharpton is an idiot.

Posted by: patio100 | February 24, 2009 4:28 PM | Report abuse

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