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Posted at 11:55 AM ET, 01/27/2011

WTF Moments with Palin on the 'Race to Space,' Sputnik, and Spudnut

By Alexandra Petri

Dear Sarah Palin,

Based on your comments to Greta van Susteren on Fox News last night about the State of the Union address, I think there has been a slight misunderstanding. Or, possibly, several large misunderstandings.

I liked your coinage of "WTF moments" from President Obama's phrase, "winning the future."

I also enjoyed your analysis that:

That was another one of those WTF moments, when he so often repeated this Sputnik moment that he would aspire Americans to celebrate. And he needs to remember that what happened back then with the former communist USSR and their victory in that race to space, yes, they won, but they also incurred so much debt at the time that it resulted in the inevitable collapse of the Soviet Union.

It's not that I agree with the sentiments you are expressing, but I like the way you say it. It's like a tonal poem. It sounds like the classic Beatles song "Dig a Pony," with people aspiring other people to celebrate things in a strange, contorted syntax.

But I have to say: seriously?

Even I understood what the Sputnik Moment was supposed to refer to. It's the moment when you suddenly notice, to your chagrin, that someone else is making strides and you need to step up your game. President Obama wasn't saying "We need to do the modern-day equivalent of launching the first man-made satellite into orbit." He wasn't saying, "We must emulate the USSR, socialize the means of production, and give unconvincing factory tours until our inevitable collapse that was, honestly, not in any way triggered by the spending that went into our side of the race to space." Or at least if he did, I missed that portion of the speech.

What he was saying was, we need to look ahead so we don't fall behind. I don't want to split hairs about whether the Space Race and the Race to Space are the same or different -- they did win the race to put something in space, if not what is popularly referred to as the Space Race, which culminated in our landing on the moon, so, well, okay, let's, as Adam Sandler says, Just Go With It.

But after this, for several minutes that we as a nation will never get back, you rambled about a bakery called the "Spudnut Shop," that doesn't want the government telling it how to operate, or something:

Well, the spudnut shop in Richland, Washington -- it's a bakery, it's a little coffee shop that's so successful, 60-some years, generation to generation, a family-owned business not looking for government to bail them out and to make their decisions for them. It's just hard-working, patriotic Americans in this shop.

We need more spudnut moments in America. And I wish that President Obama would understand, in that heartland of America, what it is that really results in the solutions that we need to get this economy back on the right track. It's a shop like that.

Yes, that is what we need to get the economy back on track.

A bakery.

Not more expertise in math and science, engineering, technology, and developing enterprises that will allow us to compete with the rest of the world. A bakery, full of Real Americans.

Do you realize how this sounds? This is like if I were to say, "Hey, I think we need to take a course to familiarize ourselves with what actually caused the Soviet Union to collapse!" and you were to respond, "Anything can be solved with Hard Work, donuts, and the American Way!" It's as if I were to say, "Let's study geometry!" and you were to respond, "Let's study Gia Spumanti, the red-blooded American protagonist of 'A Shore Thing.'" "Those two sound similar, but are in no way comparable," I would point out. And that's what this is. It's the kind of bizarre semi-sequitur that has always been a hallmark of your speaking style.

I understand that this is supposed to be a tribute to the enterprising spirit of Americans. I am sure that, if I went to the Spudnut Shop in Richland, Wash., I would love the food and admire the industry of the people who have been making it work, without government assistance, for 60 years. And it's true: We need this.

But this is like comparing spuds to sputniks. President Obama is talking about competing with the rest of the world. He's pointing out that we need to get our act together and try to commit to education and research that will allow us to make innovative strides comparable to the ones we made after we got that wake-up call from Sputnik. And you are -- rambling about bakeries with names that sound sort of similar? I guess? It's just not a responsible comparison.

Yes, we need more Spudnut moments. We need self-sufficiency, work ethic, and delicious donuts here at home. But if we really want to get the economy back on track, we need a better-educated workforce, one that knows that the Space Race didn't bankrupt the Soviet Union, understands syntax, and doesn't just bloviate about bakeries.

Thank you.

By Alexandra Petri  | January 27, 2011; 11:55 AM ET
Categories:  Barack Obama, Epic Failures, Petri, Worst Things Ever  | Tags:  Sarah Palin, Sputnik, state of the union  
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She also forgot that for a donut shop to stay in business, it must have customers. In Richland, WA, most of those customers work at the Hanford Nuclear Reservation, and many of their jobs were recently saved by a 2 billion dollar stimulus payment.

Oh, and what actually did bankrupt the Soviet Union was excessive military spending, and the invasion of Afghanistan. Hmmm, I think I need another donut.

Posted by: divtune | January 27, 2011 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Can you say noooclear duh nut?

That's what Palin is a duh nut.

BeeJay says:
January 27, 2011 at 5:39 AM
Richland is an interesting place. Almost entirely dependent on Federal government spending, it lies on the edge of the Hanford Nuclear Reservation, the largest and most radioactive Superfund cleanup there is in these here United Snakes. {see “Hanford Site” on Wikipedia}

If not for government spending on the employees who are doing the cleanup, the Spudnut Shop probably wouldn’t have had a history this long, or a history at all for that matter. Hanford was begun in 1942 as part of the Manhattan Project, as the plutonium production center for the bombs that were to come. Thus, the Spudnut folk came into being about the same time… Radioactive potato’s?

Far from what I consider the “heartland.”

Posted by: marthadavidson | January 27, 2011 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Bah! who cares what Air Head Paylin has to say. Jeffery Dahmer's comments are more relevant to the country today.

Posted by: yard80197 | January 27, 2011 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Can you say noooclear duh nut?

That's what Palin is a duh nut.

BeeJay says:
January 27, 2011 at 5:39 AM
Richland is an interesting place. Almost entirely dependent on Federal government spending, it lies on the edge of the Hanford Nuclear Reservation, the largest and most radioactive Superfund cleanup there is in these here United Snakes. {see “Hanford Site” on Wikipedia}

If not for government spending on the employees who are doing the cleanup, the Spudnut Shop probably wouldn’t have had a history this long, or a history at all for that matter. Hanford was begun in 1942 as part of the Manhattan Project, as the plutonium production center for the bombs that were to come. Thus, the Spudnut folk came into being about the same time… Radioactive potato’s?

Far from what I consider the “heartland.”

Posted by: marthadavidson | January 27, 2011 2:49 PM | Report abuse

"we need Better educated workforce"....I know we need better schools, but our jobs
didn't go away because the workers didn't know what they were doing.
When we outsourced those 7 Million+ manufacturing jobs over the past 15 yrs. or more, we lost the "key" to entrepreneurship, to resourcefulness, to inventiveness, etc.
Many people don't realize that if you're not manufacturing, you're "out of the loop".

Posted by: ohioan | January 27, 2011 2:53 PM | Report abuse

The 2 billion didn't save all the jobs in "the area" as it is refered to. The spending caused a surge in workforce filled through contract workers and hiring extra people off the street, basically employing those who were already employed elsewhere. These said people will be out of the area this October as the money is used up. As for the Spudnut shop, the agricultural and winery industries provide sufficient customer base for these types of small businesses who weather the cyclic government spending.

Posted by: wainfiggitty | January 27, 2011 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Alexandra,

Thanks for that. You made my day.

Posted by: cynicalidealist | January 27, 2011 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Sarah P., continuing to bring the crazy. Speaking of which, no one mentioned, I don't think, Spudnuts are donuts made with potatoes, also kind of crazy.
And she seems to have gotten Spudnut history a bit wrong, too...it actually was originally a chain of sorts (see site, a little info below)...that went out of business, as an entity. And alas, apparently they lost their Alaska store along the way.

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In 1946 brothers Al and Bob Pelton in Salt Lake City, Utah began what would become one of America's favorite food confections, a chain of Spudnut Shops stretching from coast to coast, Alaska to Mexico. Many became devoted fans of Spudnuts, named for being potato flour donuts, "spud"nuts. Over time the parent company went out of business, gone but not forgotten.

Posted by: murphyguide | January 27, 2011 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Someone who would be president and doesn't know that indeed what actually did bankrupt the Soviet Union was excessive military spending, and the invasion of Afghanistan.
We talk about the debt this country has incurred. Perhaps what has happened to the USSR should be a lesson to us.
Yes, we need a strong military, but do we really need to spend 10 times as much as the chinese ($607 Billion vs $61 Billion)? or spend TWICE as much as the next 6 spenders pit TOGETHER? (see http://blog.heritage.org/2010/04/05/how-does-u-s-defense-spending-compare-with-other-countries/) In http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Armed_Forces it says that our military expenditure accounts for 43% of the world's Military expenditure!!!
We spend on our military nearly as much as all other (militarily meaningful) nations PUT TOGETHER!
Again, we need a strong military force to assure the protection of our way of life, but with the kind of military budget we have and the military campaigns we are involved in we might very well be following in the footsteps of the FORMER USSR. Let us hope we never have to put FORMER in front of USA.
Perhaps we should think about cutting that military budget in half. Then we would only be spending as much as the next 6 largest military budgets COMBINED!

Posted by: dytiscus | January 27, 2011 4:27 PM | Report abuse

This is why SNL never had to write any of its Sarah Palin skits. For sheer comic inventiveness, you just can't top her transcripts.

Posted by: Itzajob | January 27, 2011 4:57 PM | Report abuse

What's so hard to understand about Palin's statement? I got it. She is merely questioning why an American president would use a massively-troubled, budget-crushing Soviet program (that hardly anyone remembers or cares about anymore) as an example for Americans to emulate, and suggesting that instead, our governement allow and encourage small businessess to flourish, since small businesses make up 70% of all jobs in the country.

It's a sound, common sense message. What is so hard to comprehend?

I fear that the indoctrination that liberals received in their decades of "higher learning" have occluded their ability to comprehend simple, common sense statements.

No matter. The vast majority of Americans understand that which seems to fly over the academic eggheads in New York, Washington and Boston. "Flyover country" comprises the majority by far, and it is those good people who will put Sarah Palin in the Oval Office in January, 2013.

Posted by: QuineGeology | January 27, 2011 4:59 PM | Report abuse

It would be nice if the people who heap their hatred upon all Conservatives would take the time to understand what Conservatism is all about.

What’s not to like about limited government and individual liberty?

The government exists to ensure equal opportunities not equal outcomes. “Spreading the Wealth” or “Socialism” implies that people can’t make the right choices for themselves and the government has to step in and confiscate the fruits of one person's labor and give them to another person who feels that those fruits are owed to him.

Conservatives certainly do want to give people a helping hand when they’re down on their luck, but we also believe that the government can’t be all things to all people. Last summer, all NYC public schools were advertising Free Lunch. Then they started serving breakfast, fearing parents weren't feeding their kids in the morning. Now there’s talk of serving dinner in schools too.

If you’re too poor to feed your kids then you are probably eligible for food stamps. 1 in 5 Americans is receiving food stamps, but in NYC they have to start serving dinner, too?

Even the poorest homes have laptops and cell phones and flat screen TVs and cars. We must start expecting people to take their responsibilities more seriously and to stop falling for the class warfare rhetoric that makes some people in our society believe that they are poor because someone else is rich.

Sacrifice NOW so you can expect a better future for your children tomorrow. Stay in school. Don’t have babies if you don’t have a husband or a job or a high school diploma.

What’s so bad about discussing these social issues? Are we not supposed to discuss issues that will make the black or hispanic community upset? Well, they are the ones who are leading in the out-of-wedlock childbirths.

Conservatives aren’t the enemy. It’s the failed liberal social programs that have doomed generations of children to fatherlessness (because government is the baby daddy) and illiteracy (due to horrific public schools held hostage by corrupt administrators, unions and bloated teacher's pensions).

Rampant abortion, breakdown of the nuclear family, generational welfare, failing public schools despite the billions of dollars we keep pumping to public education, middleschoolers having sex, and you can thank a liberal for all of their “help”.

Posted by: QuineGeology | January 27, 2011 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Sputnik moment as a phrase was always understodd to mean the awareness of your competition pulling away in the race. In it's day, this was the race to the mooon. In our day, it's which country will dominate in the next century of innovation. I doubt this innovation will be coming from a bakery.

This phrase hasn't been an issue till Obama used it; enough with the petty politics.

Posted by: TraderX | January 27, 2011 5:22 PM | Report abuse

QuineGeology, are you serious?? I believe you 'got it' about as well as she-who-shall-not-be-named. Once again, trying to translate what the former 1/2 term governor said into something resembling an understanding of what both Obama meant and what Ms. Petri clearly said above will only end up frustrating you, I'm sure. Please don't bother.

Posted by: JoeMcCabe1 | January 27, 2011 5:24 PM | Report abuse

Hilarious letter!!! I'm going to try to go off Sarah Palin cold turkey next month (see Dana Milbank's WP article encouraging a Palin-Free February), and your letter is the perfect example of why I'm going to have such a Terrible Time.

Sadly, its hilarity is severely compromised by the spine-tingling, hair-raising--yea, staggering--fact that so many take her seriously. What on earth was McCain thinking???

You know, someone really should edit what she writes on her hand . . .

Posted by: lduke3 | January 27, 2011 8:14 PM | Report abuse

QuineGeology, your mind functions just like Palin's. Your comment shows a total lack of understanding of what the President said. His reference to a Sputnik moment is fully well understood by those who heard that "beep beep beep" on their radio. The Sputnik moment refers to realizing that you have been beaten to the punch and need to do something drastic to win the battle you are in.
The wikipedia article at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sputnik_1 explains it perfectly with the following:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
The elevated status of the Soviet Union was further solidified by the actions of the American government following Sputnik 1. American society underwent an enormous shift that emphasized science and technological research. Sputnik forced the Americans to take up a more offensive stance in the emerging space race.Everything from the military to education systems were revamped by the government and unimaginable economic possibilities ensued. The federal government began pouring unmatched amounts of money into science education, engineering and mathematics at all levels of education.An advanced research group was assembled for military purposes. These research groups developed weapons such as ICBMs and missile defense systems, as well as spy satellites for the US. After several failed attempts, the US successfully launched a satellite, Explorer I, on January 31, 1958.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

The key point is that: "The federal government began pouring unmatched amounts of money into science education, engineering and mathematics at all levels of education"

AND that is what the President alluded to. We need to invest in science education, engineering and mathematics at all levels of education if we want to be the preeminent technological nation.
So when you say: "She is merely questioning why an American president would use a massively-troubled, budget-crushing Soviet program (that hardly anyone remembers or cares about anymore) as an example for Americans to emulate, and suggesting that instead, our governement allow and encourage small businessess to flourish, since small businesses make up 70% of all jobs in the country." it shows how she and you truly did not understand what the president was referring to. He never suggested that we emulate the soviet program. That interpretation of the President's words is exactly what you would expect of someone who doesn't know their history or as you say, someone who doesn't remember.
But then again, this does not surprise me from Palin, someone who Palin switched colleges 6 times in 6 years and seems quite ignorant.
As for your statement that: "I fear that the indoctrination that liberals received in their decades of "higher learning" have occluded their ability to comprehend simple, common sense statements."
That probably explains why only 6 percent of scientists are republicans. Those who create the technologies that made us great are not conservatives!

Posted by: dytiscus | January 27, 2011 8:14 PM | Report abuse

QuineGeology wrote:
"What's so hard to understand about Palin's statement? I got it. [most of comment omitted]
"No matter. The vast majority of Americans understand that which seems to fly over the academic eggheads in New York, Washington and Boston. "Flyover country" comprises the majority by far, and it is those good people who will put Sarah Palin in the Oval Office in January, 2013."
_________________________________
Seriously, Quine?
I got Obama's "Sputnik" reference, found it pertinent, and understood both its content and intent. And so did Petri, who demolished the arguments in your first paragraph before you even wrote it (how prescient of her!). And guest what? I live in "flyover country" (West Virginia is red-state "flyover country"). In this case at least, you're grasping at straws in your defense of Palin.

I'd say that admitting you "got" Palin's criticism of Obama's "Sputnik" reference is hardly flattering to you. But then, I'm one of those NY, Boston, or DC eggheads. Oh wait, I'm not . . . .

For the record, I'm a centrist, not a liberal. I DO actually want to have thoughtful conservatives in our national dialogue, but the content of both of your screeds here persuades me that you're not among them.

Posted by: post_reader_in_wv | January 27, 2011 9:06 PM | Report abuse

She also forgot that for a donut shop to stay in business, it must have customers. In Richland, WA, most of those customers work at the Hanford Nuclear Reservation, and many of their jobs were recently saved by a 2 billion dollar stimulus payment.

Oh, and what actually did bankrupt the Soviet Union was excessive military spending, and the invasion of Afghanistan. Hmmm, I think I need another donut.
Posted by: divtune | January 27, 2011 2:40 PM | Report abuse
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Sarah's comments made much more sense than anything that O'bama had to say.
The Stimulus plan was too expensive, about $250.000.00 per "saved" job. If the Hanford Nuclear facility cannot produce products, that are saleable, at a profit, shut it down.
Dennis

Posted by: Shadowsmgc | January 27, 2011 10:06 PM | Report abuse

Someone who would be president and doesn't know that indeed what actually did bankrupt the Soviet Union was excessive military spending, and the invasion of Afghanistan.
We talk about the debt this country has incurred. Perhaps what has happened to the USSR should be a lesson to us.
Yes, we need a strong military, but do we really need to spend 10 times as much as the chinese ($607 Billion vs $61 Billion)? or spend TWICE as much as the next 6 spenders pit TOGETHER? (see http://blog.heritage.org/2010/04/05/how-does-u-s-defense-spending-compare-with-other-countries/) In http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Armed_Forces it says that our military expenditure accounts for 43% of the world's Military expenditure!!!
We spend on our military nearly as much as all other (militarily meaningful) nations PUT TOGETHER!
Again, we need a strong military force to assure the protection of our way of life, but with the kind of military budget we have and the military campaigns we are involved in we might very well be following in the footsteps of the FORMER USSR. Let us hope we never have to put FORMER in front of USA.
Perhaps we should think about cutting that military budget in half. Then we would only be spending as much as the next 6 largest military budgets COMBINED!
1. Posted by: dytiscus | January 27, 2011 4:27 PM | Report abuse
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Perhaps, you’d choose to live in a Nation, with a much lower GDP?
What’s the lowest income, that you’d work for?
Do you know, how much the Chinese Military person, earns?
The easy answer is, we earn, and have more, than any of the other Nations of the World.

The median income in China is roughly 4,397 1. United States Dollars.
Answered - 209 days ago at 4:44pm on Jul 02 2010 from www.worldsalaries.org
-----------------
Dennis

Posted by: Shadowsmgc | January 27, 2011 10:27 PM | Report abuse

I would suggest that Sarah Palin read about the rise and fall of Spud Nut before she calls it a success story

Posted by: whitleyjw | January 27, 2011 11:33 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps Sarah Palin's existence on the national stage is our country's contemporary Sputnik moment. If someone this empty-headed and loud-mouthed can command the attention of the country and be taken seriously by political parties, the press, and the media, then we are in huge trouble.

A fellow Alaskan has written a post that is exactly right on how and why she came to power in Alaska:

http://www.andrewhalcro.com/who_is_responsible_for_sarah_palin


Learn from our mistake, America! Then let's pull together and do everything we can to overcome this threat to our integrity and sanity! Let's build Sarah Palin her own personal Sputnik so she can become the first half-term, failed vice presidential candidate in space!

Remember: In space, no one can hear you screech.

Posted by: BlueDog1 | January 27, 2011 11:37 PM | Report abuse

Richland Washington is the home of government paid engineers and scientists who work at the Hanford Nuclear Reservation. While our State of Washington is a leading exporter of "made in america" stuff, nuclear waste material is not readily exported (since the toxic waste is radioactive and kills living organisms). But overall Sarah Palin's remarks about Spudnut moments are not serious political speech. Her speech is more on par with other FOX NEWS "entertainers". But I prefer the Newshour with Jim Lehrer (PBS).

Posted by: rmorris391 | January 28, 2011 12:22 AM | Report abuse

I'm not sure if she's really that stupid or purposely distorting history.

Posted by: Nunya7 | January 28, 2011 1:33 AM | Report abuse

A waste - total waste - you can't fix stupid.

Fox ought to dump her -

She's just too stoopid to employ

Posted by: dutchess2 | January 28, 2011 7:53 AM | Report abuse

I guess it's just too much to wish for a Palin-free month.....

Posted by: jquinlan29 | January 28, 2011 10:29 AM | Report abuse

Where to begin? This time the community college prom queen didn't make up a word, but she managed -- along with her usual mangled syntax -- to misuse a common word which seems impossible to misuse: Aspire. "... (Obama) so often repeated this Sputnik moment that he would aspire Americans ..." Aspire is an intransitive verb and should be followed by "to." I suppose she meant "inspire." Sarah Palin certainly inspires me -- to make sure my kids get the best education they can. And that, SP, was what Obama was saying. Thanks for supporting our President's message.

Posted by: reallyrogue | January 28, 2011 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Where to begin? This time the community college prom queen didn't make up a word, but she managed -- along with her usual mangled syntax -- to misuse a common word which seems impossible to misuse: Aspire. "... (Obama) so often repeated this Sputnik moment that he would aspire Americans ..." Aspire is an intransitive verb and should be followed by "to." I suppose she meant "inspire." Sarah Palin certainly inspires me -- to make sure my kids get the best education they can. And that, SP, was what Obama was saying. Thanks for supporting our President's message.

Posted by: reallyrogue | January 28, 2011 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Poor Sarah. She was born to feed the Oval Orifice, into which, in lieu of brain food, she stuffed potato-based doughnuts.

Beauty is only skin deep...

but stupid goes clear to the bone.

$arah Pay-lin and Michele Bachmann are proof that Intelligent Design had a hit and miss record of success.

Posted by: mmmapache | January 28, 2011 7:26 PM | Report abuse

That woman is an idiot.

Posted by: cjy561 | January 29, 2011 2:53 AM | Report abuse

"...yes, they won, but they also incurred so much debt at the time that it resulted in the inevitable collapse of the Soviet Union."

If the single cause fallacy isn't enough to grab your attention, the time span should.

Posted by: gpsman | January 29, 2011 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Wow. Once again, Palin shows an inability to take responsibility for her own failures and shortcomings. This is yet another one of Palin's fatal flaws -- she is totally incapable of ever admitting that she made a mistake in a tweet, Facebook posting, speech, or during an interview.

"Hello, America. My name is Sarah Palin, and I am so blessed that my sh*t don't stink, don't ya know."

In Palin's infamous Sputnik moment, Sarah was trying to take a Six Degrees of Separation approach to explaining causal relationships in major historical events. This is what happens when you have a simplistic, comic book-level understanding of world history.

And then she followed up this inane commentary with an epiphany -- what our nation really needs to solve all of our problems is … more donuts!

Palin has repeatedly demonstrated an inability for cogent, rational, substantive extemporaneous speaking, largely the result of her brain being on auto-pilot as she relies almost exclusively on memorized shallow, often snarky talking points during her speeches and (exclusively T-ball) interviews.

Bottom line. Palin won't waste her time with any interviewer who will not guarantee

1) advanced screening of all questions

2) no followup questions without her realtime permission.

On the other hand, her continual need to rationalize and justify her frequent faux pas with irrational and fabricated backstories illustrates why she is regarded as the Tommy Flanagan of national politics.

Posted by: labman57 | January 29, 2011 1:54 PM | Report abuse

This is the most UNpartriotic thing she could do and it takes the cake, even for Palin. She put guns in people’s hands (literally) and incites them with her right-wing extremism. There is no stopping her and she refuses to back down or even tone it down. This is a prime example... it couldn't be in poorer taste. I drew a visually commentary about this very thing on my artist's blog at http://dregstudiosart.blogspot.com/2011/01/sarah-palin-made-me-do-it.html

Posted by: dregstudios | January 29, 2011 2:58 PM | Report abuse

This is the most UNpartriotic thing she could do and it takes the cake, even for Palin. She put guns in people’s hands (literally) and incites them with her right-wing extremism. There is no stopping her and she refuses to back down or even tone it down. This is a prime example... it couldn't be in poorer taste. I drew a visually commentary about this very thing on my artist's blog at http://dregstudiosart.blogspot.com/2011/01/sarah-palin-made-me-do-it.html

Posted by: dregstudios | January 29, 2011 2:59 PM | Report abuse

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