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Man dies who had conflict with police

Dan Morse

A 65-year-old man hospitalized after a Sunday night encounter with Montgomery County police died early Thursday morning, according to his family and authorities.

It is still unclear if Karreem A. Ali died of a condition he had before the encounter, or as a result of the conflict. Two officers struggled to get Ali into handcuffs, and used a stun-gun type device and pepper spray to subdue him. Police are reviewing the matter to see if the use of force was appropriate.

An autopsy will be performed at the state medical examiner’s office in Baltimore, a police spokeswoman said Thursday morning.


-- Dan Morse

By Dan Morse  | October 14, 2010; 11:02 AM ET
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How about some details on this-Remember from school? The Who, What ,How, When, Why and Where?

Details make a story.

Posted by: kernunnos1367 | October 14, 2010 12:31 PM | Report abuse

if you read the prior story that is linked to in this one, you get the details; http://voices.washingtonpost.com/crime-scene/montgomery/man-in-critical-condition-had.html

apparently, he was acting odd and the police were called and he wasn't able to answer their questions nor would he follow their orders so they ending up tasering him.

The poor man was probably having some kind of seizure or medical emergency in the first place.

It's easy to look back now and see it was totally the wrong response, but neither the people who reported the man, nor the first responding police are medical doctors.

Hopefully this incident will be fully investigated to see where things went wrong and how this can be prevented from happening again.

It's a tragedy for all involved and family and friends.

Posted by: MarilynManson | October 14, 2010 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Obviously these pigs were unable to handle a 65 year old man. Maybe we ought to stick them in a swimming pool for further taser testing. I hope this poor man's family collects a mint from their stupidity.

Posted by: callmeout | October 14, 2010 1:14 PM | Report abuse

callmeout - "Pigs"? What are you, a leftover from the 60's? Why don't you grow up you little punk?

Posted by: madmike272 | October 14, 2010 1:48 PM | Report abuse

---->MADMIKE---Someone having a bad day. Amazing the amount of guts people have when they're hidden behind a computer screen. Go back to spanking your mom and let the big boys alone.

Posted by: callmeout | October 14, 2010 2:05 PM | Report abuse

---->MADMIKE---I have no respect for you or the cops. This poor man died because some idiot thought it would be easier to taze him than deal with him. I have no respect for you for no other reason than you are an ignorant troll.

Posted by: callmeout | October 14, 2010 2:07 PM | Report abuse

The poor man was probably having some kind of seizure or medical emergency in the first place.

It's easy to look back now and see it was totally the wrong response, but neither the people who reported the man, nor the first responding police are medical doctors.
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You don't know the first fact of this case, but feel so confident that it was "totally the wrong response". Stupid.

Posted by: johnfchick1 | October 14, 2010 2:21 PM | Report abuse

I am a life long resident of Montgomery County and have known some bad and a lot of great police officers. Over the years I have found the secret to not getting hurt by them and the secret is when they say stop or put the gun down or put your hands behind your back you just do as they ask and it's like magic you don't get hurt

Posted by: lynncoinc | October 14, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse

What is going to cause a 65 year old unarmed man more harm, being taken to the ground or forcibly restrained by a police officer or having 50000 volts of electricity applied (probably more than once)? This is just another example of overzealous police officers taking the path of least resistance. I hope criminal charges are brought and I hope civil litigation against the county, police dept., and the officers themselves is brought. It's time the police are held just as responsible as the criminals they arrest.

Posted by: callmeout | October 14, 2010 2:33 PM | Report abuse

callmeout,
How do you know what an appropriate response was in the situation? Were you there? What are your qualifications in threat assessment?
Would you prefer they'd use lethal force first?
Did the guy have a medical condition? Was he under some type of influence(drugs or alcohol)? What were his intentions struggling with the female officer(its in the previous story on this)?

Bottom line: You're in no way qualified to comment on the situation as you have no more knowledge of it than any of us.

Posted by: BigDaddy651 | October 14, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Obviously these pigs were unable to handle a 65 year old man. Maybe we ought to stick them in a swimming pool for further taser testing. I hope this poor man's family collects a mint from their stupidity.

Posted by: callmeout | October 14, 2010 1:14 PM | Report abuse

callmeout - "Pigs"? What are you, a leftover from the 60's? Why don't you grow up you little punk?

Posted by: madmike272 | October 14, 2010 1:48 P


Do either of you know each other if you stood on the same corner of the same street? Yet you argue and name call as if either of you will lose one minutes sleep over what the other is saying. Both could use a little growing up.

Posted by: ged0386 | October 14, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

ged0386,
Well said. Its possible to disagree(as you and I have numerous times) without resorting to name calling. It shows a lack of maturity.

Posted by: BigDaddy651 | October 14, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse


Police in Montgomery and PG are dumber that those in Fairfax County. I didn't think that was possible.


Posted by: mortified469 | October 14, 2010 5:26 PM | Report abuse

Tasers don't kill everyone, but neither do firearms. Tasers are still deadly weapons. The mortality rate from taser electrocution seems, from news accounts, pretty similar to the mortality rate from small firearms.

So it's time to sue the $#!% out of any government whose agency uses tasers where deadly force is not permitted, and to change the laws so electrocution weapons are treated the same as projectile and other deadly weapons.

And let's remember too that this person who died was doing nothing to harm anyone. Fascist cops need to have their toys taken away.

Posted by: pundito | October 14, 2010 5:58 PM | Report abuse

Whenever I get handcuffed by police I usually shut up and comply. Perhaps this D-bag should have known the rules by the age of 65. Then again, what tough guys these cops were for using a stung gun on a 65 year old man. They should have their a$$es kicked.

Posted by: hogfarmer55 | October 15, 2010 8:51 AM | Report abuse

Whenever I get handcuffed by police I usually shut up and comply. Perhaps this D-bag should have known the rules by the age of 65. Then again, what tough guys these cops were for using a stung gun on a 65 year old man. They should have their a$$es kicked.

Posted by: hogfarmer55 | October 15, 2010 8:52 AM | Report abuse

Let's be honest here, folks. All taxpayers are marginally better off without the likes of Mr. Ali hanging around for decades, sucking up resources from Medicare, Social Security and other entitlement programs.

In fact, police everywhere shold be trained to taze first and ask questions later whenever they confront a drunken, out-of-control loudmouth senior citizen.

Posted by: NorplantNow | October 15, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

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