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Counselor dead at Pr. George's facility

Update, 12:35 p.m.: Maryland State Police spokesman Greg Shipley confirmed that detectives are investigating a homicide at the facility.

About 7:45 a.m., Shipley said, a staff member at the facility discovered a woman's body just outside the door of the Murphy School, which is outside the fence at the facility. The woman appeared to have been assaulted, Shipley said.

Twenty male students are housed in the Murphy School, Shipley said, and they are allowed to move throughout the building. He said the woman's body was found on a side of the building that is "rather secluded."

Shipley declined to identify the woman.

Original post: Maryland State Police are investigating the death of a woman whose body was found Thursday morning outside the Cheltenham Youth Facility, a juvenile detention center on Frank Tippett Road in Prince George's County.

The 48-year-old woman appeared to have been bludgeoned, according to a law enforcement source who spoke only on the condition of anonymity. An investigation is underway, the source said.

Another source, who also wished to remain anonymous, said the woman was a counselor at the facility.

A state police spokesman confirmed that investigators are looking into a death at the facility. He offered no other details.

Jay Cleary, a spokesman for the Maryland Department of Juvenile Services, said the body was found on the facility's property, but outside the fence. He had no further details.

The center is operated by the Maryland Department of Juvenile Services, and holds teenagers awaiting trial or sentencing from Anne Arundel, Prince George's, Calvert, Charles and St. Mary's counties, according to the department's Web site. The center also houses 20 delinquent youths in need of court-ordered supervision. The Web site reports that the total youth population of Cheltenham is less than 100.

-- Staff and wire reports

By Washington Post Editors  |  February 18, 2010; 12:37 PM ET
Categories:  Juvenile Justice , Matt Zapotosky , Pr. George's , Prison Beat , The Region  
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Sad to hear that someone who was not turning their back on these kids ends up dead.

Oh well some juvenile is about to go be
transfered to the "Big Boy" lock up now.

Posted by: ENJOYA | February 18, 2010 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Another death in Pee Gee Countee. . Imagine that!

Move along folks. . . nothing to see here, cept the yellow crime scene tape & the chalk outline.

Posted by: Robbnitafl | February 18, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse


Again, why does the headline read:
"Counselor dead at Pr. George's facility" and "... a juvenile detention center on Frank Tippett Road in Prince George's County...."


"Counselor dead at Cheltenham facility" and "... a juvenile detention center on Frank Tippett Road in Cheltenham, MD...."

Posted by: joebananas1 | February 18, 2010 1:14 PM | Report abuse

is there ever a day someone isn't murdered in PG County?

Posted by: skinsfan15 | February 18, 2010 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Why are these savage punks being babysat in this type of facility? Lock their butts up with the big dogs!

Posted by: blackforestcherry | February 18, 2010 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Joebananas, what difference does it make? If you're tired of hearing about a homicide in Prince George's County every two or three days then why not rally your neighbors together to approach your county commissioners and request a tax increase to pay for more police, crime prevention programs, anti-drug task forces, etc.? Fairfax County has well over 1,000,000 people---the largest jurisdiction in the DC/Baltimore area---and a much lower homicide rate than Prince George's County. Why not ask them for help?

Posted by: NoVARunner86 | February 18, 2010 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Why assume it was a juvenile? There are a lot of people who work at that facility, who are not being supervised 24/7 (unlike the juveniles). Not to mention the body was found OUTSIDE the fence, where anyone can walk by, including people in all the nice neighborhoods across the street.

Then again, a lot of those juveniles are used to being prejudged by now.

Posted by: agrainofsalt | February 18, 2010 3:25 PM | Report abuse


That is not the issue, frankly, crime does not effect me nor my community. My comment is not necessarily in reference to crime, but any story related to activities in the county are tagged PG county quite often.

Most of the crime is in certain areas and not throughout the county.

THus, it spawns sweeping generalizations represented many commenters.

I am not blind to the fact that there are undesireable elements/areas in the county, but as a whole i can not agree.

Posted by: joebananas1 | February 18, 2010 6:20 PM | Report abuse

So sorry to hear that this lady was killed by one of these degenerates.My prayers are with her family.

Posted by: nickyfree44 | February 18, 2010 7:05 PM | Report abuse

my thoughts and prayers go out the family. everyone is so quick to judge the juvinials at this facility you should have all facts before passing judgement. some people say that these kids that are there are savage punks or degenerates but the people that are saying this have no clue who the children are. as a mother of a child that has been in this facility is not a punk or a dengerate just made a bad choice. the way some people are talking about these children are making it seem like if they mess up as a kid they do not deserve to have a life as an adult because putting them in the adult jail system would prevent them from rehiblitation and productive future as an adult. I DO NOT LIKE HOW PEOPLE WILL JUMP TO CONCLUSIONS AND BLAME THESE CHILDERN!!! i think that you the people jumping to conclusions and making accusation's should take a tour of the facility and ask themselves how hard it would be for the children of the facility to get out an commit a crime and get back in before being unaccounted for because there is an unlimited number of roll calls and number counts in the day and thru out the night.

comment from my son:
as a former guest of the cheltenham youth facility i do not appreciate the comments that have been posted on this site about this horrible thing that has happened. yes i was a former guest of this facility an i served 5 months there an i went into cheltenham as a trouble child that didnt care about anything, failed my 11th grade year of high school becasue of the choices i made, i came out of the facility with a better attitude and a better look on life i have graduated high school with my HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA not a GED my ACTUAL DIPLOMA and i am making excellent decisions with my life and have not been in any trouble since i was locked up. so for all the people that are saying everyone in there are savage punks and dengenerates why dont yall think about this comment an think about how the families of the children feel when they read what you are saying about there children and think to yourself would i want someone calling me or my children that becasue i can be almost positive that you would not want to be down graded like that.

Posted by: mom1076 | February 18, 2010 11:18 PM | Report abuse

If we stopped treating people like criminals and more as people and stopped locking them up for pettiness maybe just maybe stuff like this won't happen. You keep people oppressed for a long time and keep them down and treat them as lesser beings they are likely to wind up doing something that most would find deplorable. We have cops too protect corporations and the government and too help lock up the people rather than cops to protect us FROM the corporations and government.

It doesn't help when you are stuck in schools that don't work for you, in neighborhoods that are in poor shape. Nothing is being done to fix them other than gentrification or building more jails. Plus there are no good jobs or in many cases even bad jobs and their is really not a place too have fun aside from doing drugs which tend to be brought in by our pals in the government. You put these volatile situations together and a lot of time people lash out with violence.

The simple fact is you treat some one with dignity and respect and as a humyn being they are less likely to lash out. I am not saying that this attack was now justified or this counselor did anything wrong or that it was an attack from people in the youth prison (because that is what it is) but it should be looked at from not a these kids are evil perspective but the surrounding world is evil too them. Everything around them is an assault on them in some way no matter how small. Things need to be changed so these types of things are prevented. And no you cannot prevent violence or crime through more prisons and more restrictions but through care and understanding and giving people a better life even if that means people with the best life have too give up a large portion of it. The criminals out there don't have blue collars or are from "the streets" but are in the halls of power in the large steel and glass monoliths to capitalism, their collars a permed and pressed out of fine silk and other nice materials and the most clean of whites.

Posted by: freedomjusticesolidarity | February 18, 2010 11:20 PM | Report abuse

Move, leave the area. I did when I had a child because it is the right thing to do. I lived in Laurel which is not considered the bad parts but I care too much for my family to subject them to what goes on even in the more northern parts of PG. No person with a decent job and a respect for family should wilingly subject their children to what goes on in PG. Offer me a 5 BR home in Bowie on 10 acres for free with no taxes and if I can not use it as a rental I would gladly pay 2500/month in Mortgage payments in Montgomery County instead. Is your family's safety not worth 30k a year to you? PG makes black people look bad. I know many of people who wished the county just turned over and died, I am speaking of black people here.It's not just Seat Pleasant, District Heights or the areas surrounding SE DC. Do what you do, I just care too much to have my family subjected to what your defending.

Posted by: oldirtybahen2002 | February 18, 2010 11:40 PM | Report abuse

Hey mom1076 AND son:

"Guest"??? Darn right you were a guest paid for by my tax dollars!!! Your stay at the Cheltenham "resort", which is where people ARE considered guests--not a detention center--is a reflection on you both and your attitude is abyssmal.

As for oldirtybahen2002, that's exactly what I AM doing--on the first thing smoking--and I am a lifetime resident often brought to tears by what the current demographic has done to the county.

Posted by: UptoHere2 | February 19, 2010 9:53 AM | Report abuse

to uptohere2,
this is the son.

you say its a resort an not a detention center a detention center is an adult system cheltenham is called a juvenille detention center. if you think it is a resort go ahead and take a tour of the facility and tell me if it looks like a resort becasue if that is your idea of a resort then you have some screws loose. it is not a reflection on my attitude because if you acutally read what i said you would have noticed that i was doing excellent not poorly. so pay attention to what you read. your tax dollars go to useless stuff like all the stupid things the goverment does if you want my opinion that facility is helping more kids then anyone thinks it does. its not a waste of your tax dollars. if more of the tax dollars went to the youths so they would have constructive things to do we would not need youth detention center so dont give me the blah blah blah BS aabout your tax dollars

Posted by: mom1076 | February 20, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse

PG County... where 16,000 vehicles being stolen each year is a GOAL... not an embarrassment.

Posted by: ArchRival | February 24, 2010 4:37 AM | Report abuse

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