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Posted at 12:35 PM ET, 01/ 6/2011

Man shot dead in Seat Pleasant

By David P. Marino-Nachison

Database: Prince George's homicides in 2010

A man has been found shot dead in Seat Pleasant, Prince George's County police said Thursday morning. The man's killing is the county's seventh this year.

A weapon has been recovered, police said, and a "possible apprehension" of a male suspect has been made. No arrests have yet been announced in any of the killings.

Officers responded to the 900 block of Central Hills Lane around 11:43 a.m. in response to a report of a shooting.

They found an adult male suffering from gunshot wounds, and he was pronounced dead at the scene.

Map: Homicides in Prince George's County in 2011

Blue pins represent deaths, red pins represent injuries.


View Prince George's County homicides in 2011 in a larger map

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By David P. Marino-Nachison  | January 6, 2011; 12:35 PM ET
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Comments

Alright PG!!! Get the year started off with a BANG!!! Literally.

Posted by: BLKManCommonSense | January 6, 2011 1:17 PM | Report abuse


Sounds almost like the good old boys trying to make the new boys and girls look BAD.

Posted by: polecatx1 | January 6, 2011 1:44 PM | Report abuse


Sadly, this won't be the last

Posted by: Don4 | January 6, 2011 1:54 PM | Report abuse

And the residents of PG County just don't understand why upscale businesses won't move there. Could it be that in the new year your county is averaging 1 murder per day?

Posted by: oldwolf53 | January 6, 2011 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Polecatx 1,
Not being funny, but what does that even mean? Who are the good ol boys? who are the new boys?

Posted by: PGDEM | January 6, 2011 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Polecatx 1,
Not being funny, but what does that even mean? Who are the good ol boys? who are the new boys?

Posted by: PGDEM | January 6, 2011 2:23 PM | Report abuse

And the residents of PG County just don't understand why upscale businesses won't move there. Could it be that in the new year your county is averaging 1 murder per day?

Posted by: oldwolf53 | January 6, 2011 2:01 PM

Wegmans B!tch.

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 6, 2011 2:28 PM | Report abuse

@oldwolf53 It's more of the fact that they are being forced to deal with the trash being pushed out of DC due to rising rents and poor socioeconomic opportunities on African-Americans' behalves.

Posted by: lulu202 | January 6, 2011 2:31 PM | Report abuse

PG County is on pace to have 366 murders this year alone. Yikes!

Posted by: PublicEnemy1 | January 6, 2011 2:40 PM | Report abuse

At this rate, they'll have about 425 killings for the year. It's like DC 20 years ago. It's the same problems and another generation moved across the border.

Posted by: blankspace | January 6, 2011 2:42 PM | Report abuse

4thFloor,
Happy New Year man!
I have to seriously ask you this question: Why are there more shootings in PG & DC than Howard, Montgomery or Fairfax counties? There are simply just more of them(greater frequency)...why?
I'm not trying to start some racial argument with you but I just don't understand why that is the case and hope you can explain it.

Posted by: BigDaddy651 | January 6, 2011 2:58 PM | Report abuse

This is the start of a trend in PG? Let's hope not but it looks like it so far.

Posted by: Pilot1 | January 6, 2011 3:01 PM | Report abuse


PGDEM:

That is a very bitter and cynical suggestion that the veterans of law enforcement in PG are ALLOWING this to happen as a means of making past PG potentates look GOOD at the EXPENSE of current PG Wala Walas.

Our new leadership ought to have been in touch with those who have been successful in SUBSTANTIALLY reducing homicides ... long before the election.

Alsobrooks has been in the PG State's Attorney's Office for a long time and Rusty Baker has had AT LEAST 10 years to think about who he would appoint if he were elected County Executive.

The Path to Greatness is being gagged with duct tape and paved in BLOOD.

Posted by: polecatx1 | January 6, 2011 3:16 PM | Report abuse

PG and DC have more crime than Moco, Howard and Fairfax for socioeconomic reasons. (Relative) poverty + population density = increased crime. It's like that anywhere in the world.

Posted by: superseiyan | January 6, 2011 3:16 PM | Report abuse

@lulu202 DING DING DING You ARE CORRECT!!!

Posted by: LadyT1 | January 6, 2011 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Those counties may have less crime but dont be fooled crime is very much there as well. I just think that the media enjoys putting the spot lot on areas of their choice.

Posted by: missnu | January 6, 2011 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Those counties may have less crime but dont be fooled crime is very much there as well. I just think that the media enjoys putting the spot lot on areas of their choice.

Posted by: missnu | January 6, 2011 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Those counties may have less crime but dont be fooled crime is very much there as well. I just think that the media enjoys putting the spot lot on areas of their choice.

Posted by: missnu | January 6, 2011 3:32 PM | Report abuse

It's a rule of Nature: Species with high birth rates have high mortality rates; and Nature is colorblind.

Posted by: localgoober | January 6, 2011 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Sorry meant spot light!

@ taxidriver NEWSFLASH your comment is "racist"

Posted by: missnu | January 6, 2011 3:34 PM | Report abuse

This comment is directed at BigDaddy651 and his comment. I have an answer to your question, and hopefully this will resolve your ignorance. Did it ever occur to you that economics and school systems may have something to do with it. Montgomery, Howard, and Fairfax County are some of the wealthiest counties in the country. It has nothing to do with the ethnicity of the residents. Here's some free advise, try picking up a book.

Posted by: ewrght | January 6, 2011 3:40 PM | Report abuse

ewrght,
So your explanation for the higher frequency of violent crimes is the school system?
Then why isn't every county in WV, SC & GA(who have worse performing schools) dealing with this same issue?

Posted by: BigDaddy651 | January 6, 2011 3:44 PM | Report abuse

1 in 9 black men ages 20-34 is behind bars.

(WASH POST)

Posted by: TaxiDriver | January 6, 2011 3:48 PM | Report abuse

PG and DC have more crime than Moco, Howard and Fairfax for socioeconomic reasons. (Relative) poverty + population density = increased crime. It's like that anywhere in the world.

Posted by: superseiyan | January 6, 2011 3:16 PM
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DING! DING! DING! You are correct!

Posted by: Soguns1 | January 6, 2011 3:59 PM | Report abuse

ewrght,
So your explanation for the higher frequency of violent crimes is the school system?
Then why isn't every county in WV, SC & GA(who have worse performing schools) dealing with this same issue?

Posted by: BigDaddy651 | January 6, 2011 3:44 PM
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Are those counties as densely populated when compared to D.C. and P.G. County?

Are you trying to hide behind a smoke screen?

Posted by: Soguns1 | January 6, 2011 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Soguns1,
My point is, if those areas have worse performing schools and their average income is the same or lower than PG/DC, even if they're only 1/5 the population why do they not have the same violent crime issues?
Say Garrett County, Md has 1/5 the population of PG, schools roughly equivalent to PG and the same average income why do they not have the statistical equivalent frequency of violent crime?
Your argument is that better schools and higher income fixes the problem?

Posted by: BigDaddy651 | January 6, 2011 4:13 PM | Report abuse

@eright:

If you pick up any book on criminology, you will find that blacks commit violent crime 5x the rate of whites. This has been true in the US for at least 100 years. It is true in all countries, including countries like Norway & Sweden that have no history of oppressing blacks.

Posted by: pmendez | January 6, 2011 4:14 PM | Report abuse

If I could get a dollar for every violent crime committed by a black person in P.G. I would be a millionaire by now.

Posted by: farmanimal911 | January 6, 2011 4:15 PM | Report abuse

If I could get a dollar for every violent crime committed by a black person in P.G. I would be a millionaire by now.

Posted by: farmanimal911 | January 6, 2011 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Has someone used the "R" word yet - RACISM?
That popular word seems to crop up a lot on crime-related forums.

Black boys drop out of high school left & right in this area. Agreed? Whose fault is that? Is it the schools/teachers? Is it the government's fault? Is it the police's fault?

Why are their idiot parents (probably single mother - POPS is AWOL) letting them do it? What can possibly be gained from it???!

They shouldn't be allowed to do it. You're not going to help out on the family farm in Anacostia, are you, sonny?

What's it gonna take to stop black boys from dropping out of high school?

If the school looked like the average school in Fairfax County, would these black boys stay in school & graduate on time?

"I would have stayed in school but they had computers from 2003. DAG, y'all. I can't put up with that."

If you're going to have kids, be a proper parent! Focus on them. Make them you're #1 priority.

YOU GOT ANYTHING BETTER TO DO?

Posted by: TaxiDriver | January 6, 2011 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Looks like a lot of DC's trash has moved to PG--what a sorry development.

Posted by: almelbe | January 6, 2011 4:34 PM | Report abuse

The sad truth is that it's much more than socio-economics. There are plenty of poor rural counties in WVA, northern MD, and the midwest that don't have this level of violence. The proportion of violence in PGC, DC and other similar environs is disproportionately high compared to it's socioecomics. PGC has a relatively high median income (50K or so) which puts it as solidly middle class.

There's much more to it than just "socio-economics." I don't think any other county in PA, Ohio etc with the same median income and population size would have the same level of violent crimes.

What else could it be (while the pink elephant in the room is standing)?

Posted by: jab00 | January 6, 2011 4:38 PM | Report abuse

My point is, if those areas have worse performing schools and their average income is the same or lower than PG/DC, even if they're only 1/5 the population why do they not have the same violent crime issues?.....

Posted by: BigDaddy651 | January 6, 2011 4:13 PM
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What I'm saying is that population density also plays a role in crime per capita. This variable simply can NOT be ignored. This is why even though residences in the towns of West Virginia or Kentucky are as poor as residence in D.C., violent crime is not as high because they are sparsely populated. People living in close proximity to hundreds/thousands of other beings mean more opportunity for criminals to commit a violent crime against another person. Stress, environmental pollution, goes up the more people are packed like a can of sardines.

Posted by: Soguns1 | January 6, 2011 4:52 PM | Report abuse

A&E should do a First 48 in PG county or DC..although I doubt these useless, shiftless cops would allow A&E access.

Posted by: plive202 | January 6, 2011 4:59 PM | Report abuse

jab00-In reponse to your comment (as well as BigDaddy's) it's about the population density of D.C. And it doesn't help that those former residences of D.C. are moving into P.G. County.
There has been numerous studies done on this.

Posted by: Soguns1 | January 6, 2011 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Access to guns in the USA is easy. Anywhere you go in our great land - doesn't matter where. We have a lot more guns than people. That makes me sooooo proud.

PG county isn't crowded, is it? Not like certain parts of DC.

Drug trade & gangs. Stay away from those. Your life expectancy will increase.

Maybe it's a young black male thing. Black women aren't killing other black women like their men are. It's not middle-aged/old black men.

It's primarily these punks/wannabe tough guys aged 15-35. If we put them on their own planet, crime in this area would go down markedly.

Babies have babies who grow up to be thugs or teenage mamas. The cycle never ends. The girls haven't yet figured out that it's not a smart thing to get pregant at 14 to a loser who doesn't even remember your name.

Posted by: TaxiDriver | January 6, 2011 5:04 PM | Report abuse

It's too bad that TaxiDriver isn't smart enough to see past the surface of the problem.

Posted by: Soguns1 | January 6, 2011 5:12 PM | Report abuse

It's socioeconomic. Like I said (relative) poverty + high population density = increased crime. It's true everywhere in the world.

Relative poverty, not meaning absolute poverty, but being of a noticeably lower income than others around you. Population density meaning usually an urban area. Johannesburg has more crime than the South African countryside. If an area is sparsely populated, usually there isn't as much crime. Statistically, it's a fact that there the preconditions of (relative) poverty, and high population density are a good mix for crime.

Hong Kong has a high population density but there's no crime because people have money.

Rio De Janeiro has a high population density but you'll see crime because people don't have money.

If you go to rural areas in the South, Mississipi or Alabama, even where there is a lot of black people, the crime wouldn't be as high as it is in SE DC.

"My point is, if those areas have worse performing schools and their average income is the same or lower than PG/DC, even if they're only 1/5 the population why do they not have the same violent crime issues?"

Posted by: superseiyan | January 6, 2011 5:33 PM | Report abuse

Break it down for me, Soguns1. Show me where I'm wrong. What am I making up? Am I living on "Fantasy Island"?

Don't just make a one-sentence comment & then run. Enlighten me, please, & try not to use the word "racism."

You can make excuses/rationalizations til the end of time. Where does that get you?

Lots of poor immigrants here in the USA trying to make it. LEGALLY. Black people from Africa or what have you. Hispanics. You name it. They don't commit crime. They're working two jobs to support their family. They bust their butt.

So is poverty really to blame? Or is it a thug culture.

A lot of black boys don't respect education like Asians & Jews do. Black girls don't seem as bad. They're going to college.

Too many people looking for a free ride or government handout. "Work/education is for suckers & white people. I'm gonna play for the Knicks! Or be a pimp, drug dealer, Southside Crip, etc."

Young black men are the problem. When are they going to change for the better instead of living the stereotype?

Posted by: TaxiDriver | January 6, 2011 5:58 PM | Report abuse

I believe the "pink elephant in the room" that jab00 was referring to is the fact that black males don't have (or at least, in their minds, don't "perceive" to have) the same opportunities in life that others (i.e. whites) have.

They don't value their own lives (or the lives of others) because they think thugging is the only thing they CAN do. Men in general tend to choose immediate gratification over delayed results. So, young men tend to not focus on education, drop out of school, and try to make their money using "other" means.

And, it doesn't help that this behavior is all anybody ever EXPECTS of them. Guess what...it is a self-fulfulling prophecy. If you don't expect anything valuable from them, they won't rise to the occasion.

If we start valuing our black males (strong parenting, instilling good values, putting high expectations on them) and provide engaging educational opportunities and REAL OPTIONS that show them THEY CAN DO SOMETHING VALUABLE WITH THEIR LIVES, I believe black males will choose to act differently...positively.

Posted by: fakenna | January 6, 2011 6:24 PM | Report abuse

For those in denial, including TaxiDriver, who believe this is an economic problem...it is not...it is social and it deals with the behavior of two particular ethnic groups in America, Blacks (whatever that is) and "Hispanics" (whatever that is). You don't believe that? You want to call me "racist" for saying the truth, something the leaders of these communities refuse to do; refuse to take action, speak out against it?while the good people of these communities huddle in fear and terror, and cannot even help the police.

Then read Jonathon Capehart's 10 Nov 2010 column again; And in WDC and PG County, the demographics are far steeper than NYC. Read it liberal hand wringers and see what 50 years of government handouts and welfare have done to create a permanent underclass....slaves to the fat cats who exploit their race for votes an the right to steal from government coffers while driving nail after nail in the unity of America.

Capehart for your reading pleasure.

In short, 95.1 percent of all murder victims and 95.9 percent of all shooting victims in New York City are black or Hispanic. And 90.2 percent of those arrested for murder and 96.7 percent of those arrested for shooting someone are black and Hispanic. I don't even know where to begin to describe the horror I still feel looking at those numbers. But the word "hunted" comes to mind.

People have railed against black-on-black crime for decades. And yet it persists. Yes, there are a host of factors that push someone to a life of crime, but not all of them have to do with the limitations or failures of society. Some folks are just plain evil, and no amount of social intervention will stop them from preying on people, especially people who look like them.

People have also railed -- and rightly so -- against the disproportionate application of the law against people of color. Bob Herbert has used barrels of New York Times ink against the NYPD's stop-and-frisk policy. But when faced with such stark murder and shooting statistics, what's a police commissioner supposed to do to ensure the safety of the public?

All of society has an obligation to ensure that its citizens can live their lives in peace and security. The police are doing their job. Leaders in the African American and Latino communities have struggled to do their part, as well. Myriad organizations exist in New York City and across the country to steer the wayward on a better path and to protect potential victims from those who violently veer off it. But new alliances must be formed between the two to get guns off the streets and to break the "stop snitching" culture that allows cases to go unsolved, criminals to go free and communities to cower in fear. It's time to stop being speechless and feeling powerless. It's time the hunted fought back.

Update, 12:05 p.m.: Paul Duggan's story this morning on the murder of Joseph Sharps Jr. shows that what's happening in New York is happening elsewhe

Posted by: wjc1va | January 6, 2011 6:24 PM | Report abuse

We can fix this.

Bring back orphanages. Take ALL babies born to unmarried people that could not otherwise care for their offspring. No more free rides to the scum that just want to copulate and get high on the taxpayer's dime.
Get these kids out of the Thug culture and into NORMAL society ASAP and things will get back to normal in less than one generation.

Paying children to have babies is a failed Liberal social experiment and produces criminals.

Posted by: Etek | January 6, 2011 6:38 PM | Report abuse


You go PG...show them what you are really made of. Show everybody that 2010 was just an aberration.


What a sorry place for people to have to live.


Posted by: mortified469 | January 6, 2011 6:50 PM | Report abuse

So if you crowd poor people together, you're going to get murder. OK, sounds good to me.

But here's the rub: PG is the most affluent majority black jurisdiction in America. If anyplace black is (relatively) devoid of poverty, it's PG. And if people are crowded in a suburb, that's just poor planning. So how is it going to get better?

By the way, I don't think you can escape the fact that black lives are simply not valued in the US, not by whites and not by blacks. Why shouldn't blacks -- living in this society, inundated by a media that is often hostile -- have the same dim view of other blacks that whites often manifest in these comments?

Posted by: gbooksdc | January 6, 2011 8:26 PM | Report abuse


Dumb, stupid victims, victimizing other victims...

Posted by: demtse | January 6, 2011 8:47 PM | Report abuse

There is more crime in PG because its more ghetto than most of DC.

Posted by: Tina817 | January 7, 2011 7:51 AM | Report abuse

LOL! I bet TaxiDriver's narrow mind believe those negatives stereotypes apply to black people as a whole in America. The simple minded can not be challenged and refuses to believe otherwise.
Ex.: He/she refuses to entertain superseiyan's post (as well as mine) about relative poverty+urban density = higher violent crime rate.

Posted by: Soguns1 | January 7, 2011 12:51 PM | Report abuse

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