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Gray: Rhee's future not discussed in 'philosophical' meeting

Update: A number of readers have questioned my suggestion that Rhee was close to tears. After reviewing the video, I've thought about it and have removed the reference.

Video: Rhee grim-faced after meeting | Photos: The press conference

D.C. Council Chairman Vincent C. Gray and Schools Chancellor Michelle A. Rhee met for 90 minutes today for what Gray called a "philosophical discussion" about public education but they did not talk about her future in the administration.

Following the highly anticipated meeting, Gray and Rhee emerged to face a throng of news cameras and reporters. While Gray spoke to reporters, a grim-faced Rhee stood to the side, refusing to answer questions or join the chairman in issuing a public statement. (Check out the video here.)

"We did not talk about Chancellor Rhee staying or going, we talked about the state of education in the city," Gray said.

Gray called it an "excellent discussion" that largely centered on the details of the multipage education platform he released during his campaign against Mayor Adrian M. Fenty.

Gray stressed he will not be making any decisions about whether he would keep Rhee as chancellor until after the Nov. 2 general election. Rhee declined to answer reporters' questions about if she would stay on the job if Gray asked her to.

"This was not a decision-making meeting," said Gray, adding they plan to meet again in a few weeks.

After Gray spoke, Rhee rushed to an elevator, but she was followed by reporters. Rhee continued to refuse to answer questions.

This post has been updated since it was first published.

-- Tim Craig

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Rhee at post-meeting press conference. (Marvin Joseph/Post)

By Tim Craig  | September 23, 2010; 1:48 PM ET
Categories:  Michelle A. Rhee, Tim Craig, Vincent C. Gray  
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Comments

As a Rhee supporter...I don't know what to make of this.

Posted by: RL67 | September 23, 2010 2:03 PM | Report abuse

"At one point, she appeared close to tears."

Sorry, I'll have to see the video to believe that.

It's also hard to believe that she refused a chance at the microphone.

Posted by: efavorite | September 23, 2010 2:05 PM | Report abuse

I do. She wants to stay, but she will be out of a job after Nov. 2nd. She was her own worst enemy. She will know how it feels to be fired.

That's the reason for the grim face and almost in tears comments from the media. She knows the deal. What other reason would she not talk to the media, have a grim face and almost crying.

Any other time, she would be very vocal.

Posted by: samvped205 | September 23, 2010 2:08 PM | Report abuse

efavorite - I thought the same thing. I need to see a pic of her about to cry... Not to laugh or make fun but seriously - for someone to not ever care about how someone else feels, I couldn't imagine her feelings being hurt. Especially since she said "I'll be okay".

Posted by: missboo | September 23, 2010 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Gray seems insincere to want a "philosophical discussion" about Rhee's policies. What is there to ponder about firing underperforming teachers? He is either going to act politically and resist that approach or prudently and support it. That's a decision he should have made already. Isn't that what elections are for? If he seriously expects to entertain following Fenty's program, why did we get rid of Fenty?

Posted by: edarden4u | September 23, 2010 2:12 PM | Report abuse

I was thinking. Since Rhee said if Fenty lost, she would not work under Gray. Why didn't she quit.

What's wrong with this picture?

Why didn't Gray fire Rhee today? Just asking!

Posted by: samvped205 | September 23, 2010 2:22 PM | Report abuse

As a Fenty/Rhee supporter, I know exactly what to think of this. Gray will pretty much undo all that has been accomplished under Fenty/Rhee...in short order.

Posted by: david_5570 | September 23, 2010 2:22 PM | Report abuse

accomplished as in reopen the closed schools?

She chose to leave. We voted for Mayor not Chancellor. Get over it!

Is this woman your God? There are plenty others where she came from. All "change" isn't good "change". Good grief!

Posted by: missboo | September 23, 2010 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Councilman Gray,

Be strong, my brother! I applaud how you are handling this.

Posted by: rmarsh1970 | September 23, 2010 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Gray will back the unions, it is in the bag. Rhee is a dot because she challenged them for the good of the students. He doesn't care about the education of the children in DC, just paying back those who elected him. Career bureaucrat. Any good idea that works, like accountability, charter schools etc if goes against unions will never succeed in DC.

Posted by: stout1 | September 23, 2010 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Gray is being very smart. He has reached out like he said he would. He said that there would be a discussion to see what the chemistry would be like. He never said that he would make a decision and he shouldn't. If she didn't say today that she would resign, then he needs to wait until he is elected officially in November and then start his transition. He's doing it the right way.

Who said she was about to cry? She would have to have feelings for that. No way!

Posted by: candycane1 | September 23, 2010 2:34 PM | Report abuse

I think Gray is being very politically astute. Please remember that Gray won the primary, not the final election, yet. . . So, to discuss decisions on what he will and will not do, would be very disrespectful and disruptive to the current administration. Discussing philosophical similiarities and differences is the way to find out and figure out where, if possible, middle ground can be met.

Gray is not beholden to "follow Fenty's program" - he can think, act, and make decisions on his own. Keeping Rhee may be prudent so that there is a smooth transition to a new chancellor, among other reasons.

My question has always been: if Rhee has such high hopes for the DC public school system and truly wants to see changes and success in the DC public school system, then why doesn't she share her plans with the citizens like Janey did. Hold your own "State of the School" address and share with everyone the current state of the school system and where you see things in 3 years, 5 years, etc.

Transparency counts for something and right now she has the upperhand to put her cards on the table and then Gray would have to publicly respond.

Posted by: gonzo03 | September 23, 2010 2:34 PM | Report abuse

David,

if that was the case, then I'm sure Ms. Rhee would have had no problem saying that at the press conference and confirming that, as a result, she had tendered her resignation, effective immediately.

Posted by: orbitcv | September 23, 2010 2:34 PM | Report abuse

I'm with efavorite, I'd need to see the video of her "close to tears" to believe it. Though come to think of it, she looked like she had been crying the day after the election.

Her policies and actions have made my children cry on more than one occasion. I can't say that I feel sorry for her in any way.

There's no crying in baseball Michelle. Or education reform, right?

Posted by: Title1SoccerMom | September 23, 2010 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Miss Rhee once said, when she first came to DC:
“It will require tremendous change,” she said. “I’m going to need the entire community to help me. It can’t happen only within the four walls of the school building. I need to work hand in hand with you.

“I ask for your prayers.”

I guess they haven't prayed hard enough or she didn't ask enough.

Posted by: edlharris | September 23, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Currently, I do NOT have a child in DCPS (thank God). But as a DC resident, I give all my support and prayers to our newly elected mayor. He will need all of God's grace and mercy (dynamic duo) to go through this transition. I hope he can lean on God for all the strength and wisdom in terms of the Michelle Rhee saga. It is said it takes a VILLAGE to raise a child, well Ms. Rhee is NOT a village.

Posted by: lrich14501 | September 23, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

DC spends more per student than any other city or state, but has among the worst schools in the nation. It's a known fact that they were paying dead teachers, fired teachers and convicted teachers. They keep schools open out of nostalgia, not performance or performance load. The Union bullied their way back into power.

Posted by: mwcob | September 23, 2010 2:42 PM | Report abuse

I don't perceive the chancellor to be a 'crier'. The cold blood piercing through her veins doesn't seem to lend itself to human emotion. I, too, would have to see it to believe it. Nonetheless, I would gain nothing by seeing her cry, any more than I did seeing Michelle Fenty cry. Rivers of tears have flowed as a result of the actions of Michelle Rhee and her boss.

Posted by: concernedaboutdc | September 23, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse

I'm betting that she'll wind up with the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, especially after Bill appeared with Rhee on Oprah earlier this week.

Posted by: MrBethesda | September 23, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse

considering Gray's rep as spineless, maybe it's a good sign he pushed Rhee to the verge of tears. Not that I supported him nor was opposed to her....but what's done is done and anything in contrast to Gray's rep as a too nice guy who wants everyone to like him is a good thing.

Posted by: divi3 | September 23, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

DC village of cronies had decades to reform the schools. Giving money to the teachers union doesn't accomplish that. DC had the premier person in the country to reform one of the most costly and poorly performing systems anywhere.Now they won't. And the reason for all this. There was not enough racial discrimination in the previous administration. Its a sad sad world dc exists in when the reason kids are about to suffer is because the previous mayor wasn't racist enough.

Posted by: Natstural | September 23, 2010 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Gray has ALWAYS SAID that he wouldn't announce personnel changes until after the November election.

It's Rhee who has made it pretty clear that she wouldn't stay in DCPS if Gray won.

Now she's looking grim, close to tears and not talking.

Ongoing drama from the drama queen.

Posted by: efavorite | September 23, 2010 2:45 PM | Report abuse

She probably offered her resignation and Gray refused to accept it. She can stay and finish her 'reforms' or resign outright.

I like Mr. Gray. He's not saying anything; if there is a leak, everyone will know who did the talking. Rhee should have stayed out of the race. She made herself look bad. She's resorted to the same tactics Fenty used...antagonizing people with no plan on what to do when or if she gets what she wants.

Posted by: zzishate@yahoo.com | September 23, 2010 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Vincent Gray is in total controll!!! Rhee needs to brush up her resume and move forward. Oh yes, "Rhee and Fenty" will be fine. Call Bill Gates and don't use Mr. Gray's phone.

Mr. Gray will accept Rhee's resignation!!!

Posted by: sheilahgill | September 23, 2010 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Rhee can get a better job, paying much more than she now gets, tomorrow. She is very well-respected within the education reform community. She will have the last laugh on Gray.

Posted by: WashingtonDame | September 23, 2010 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Gotta hand it to DC voters. Two steps forward, ten steps back with Gray in power. Just as Rhee is starting to make headway, the residents of DC decide that they don't have the stomach for real change.

Posted by: fingal | September 23, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

"Why didn't Gray fire Rhee today? Just asking!"

Uh, maybe because he's not the mayor yet.

Posted by: surly4130 | September 23, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

If my child is in school that is under performing I blame the teachers,principals and the parents. They should have been fired!! Children first!! Now when my kids go to school the have teachers who care and don't just pass a child because they don't want to teach them or try and figure out a method to help them if they are not grasping the lesson being taught. You have to be harsh to get the best results. As for schools closing down there are some cities in the US that now have school 4 days a week because of budget problems. I think that Rhee's decision was a good one. Why don't all of the naysayers try to run a failing school system where parents are flocking to charter schools. It's not that easy. In order for change you have to weed out the bad seeds. Just because people like a principal or a teacher doesn't mean that they are effective. We now have more effective teachers that are held accountable and higher test scores than before. So many people graduated or was promoted a few years ago and that I went to school with and didn't know a thing because teachers and principals didn't care enough. I am behind Rhee completely and I have 3 KIDS THAT GO TO DC SCHOOLS!!

Posted by: tffnycr | September 23, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Candycane: I agree with you. I was actually thinking that, but I just was hoping that she quit today. thanks for clarification

Posted by: samvped205 | September 23, 2010 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Gee, I guess Gray didn't shriek "Here's my warrior woman" and bow down before her, ala Oprah.

Posted by: sanderling5 | September 23, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

@WashingtonDame: I don't believe than anyone cares whether or not Rhee can get another job. The majority of the citizens only care that she not be working HERE.

For certain, Montgomery County has made it clear that she doesn't meet the requisite educational requirements for their Superintendent position. One of the best performing systems in the nation.

Posted by: concernedaboutdc | September 23, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

surly4130: Thanks. After I sent my comment, I thought about it. thanks again

Posted by: samvped205 | September 23, 2010 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Oh my god. This city is DOOM...this city's youth is doomed. The thugs won.

Posted by: chaddsford1971 | September 23, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

So the Iron Maiden had nothing to say for once? I am so shocked and overjoyed!! It looks like somebody tightened that butt up!!LOL Everything she has done in the past few weeks has caught up with her and Mr. Gray let her know in no uncertain terms will she be running over him.

Supposedly they were discussing the state of education in DC but thinking she must wasn't prepared for that or she really doesn't know what is going on. Either way I like the end results. GO GRAY GO!!LOL

Posted by: msruby36 | September 23, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Of course Rhee's future was not discussed. IF elected in the Nov. 2 general election, why would Gray keep someone such as Rhee who was a vocal, adamant supporter of his main foe? Talk about laying out the red carpet for the fox to enter the hen house... It makes no sense at all to keep her.

Rhee herself tied her future to Fenty's, at her own peril. Anyone that supports her must acknowledge that. Had she not politicized her position, she *may* have been allowed to continue her work under Gray's (presumed) administration. Such is the fate of appointees who don't so much as attempt to make nice with others who could support their ACHIEVEMENTS over their POLITICS -- they get ousted on the basis of politics alone.

Posted by: nico800 | September 23, 2010 3:08 PM | Report abuse

The Black community who took their support from Fenty should be ashamed of themselves. You took away your support because when someone finally came in who cared about your kid's education and eliminated the teachers, bus drivers, administraters,etc who felt "entitled" to keep the jobs they have had forever you got angry. The school system for years had been set up to help poor black kids fail...then Fenty comes in and hires someone who really cares. Yes, did she piss off some people but isn't it worth it if your kids are getting the education they deserve. Grey is a pawn...and you bought his con....the only ones who will suffer are the children of DC.

Posted by: RosaPearl | September 23, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Pictures of Chairman Gray and Chancellor Rhee after the meeting are are available here:
http://www.daylife.com/photo/01L05AQbaL9Uo?q=Michelle+Rhee

After the outcome of the election, publicly dishing out election ultimatums, and then having to organize your wedding with a another public figure, yes, it's stress, it's time for tears.

Posted by: FaroutDC | September 23, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Maybe she had a long line of people helping her "get a hold of herself", like that scene in "Airplane".

Posted by: FrankIBC | September 23, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Hit the road RHEE and don't come back no more NO MORE.

@RosaPearl and other Rhee lap dogs you can hit the road as well.

You will truly not be MISSED.

Posted by: dccounselor72 | September 23, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

To Rosapearl:

I applaud your words.

WRITE IN FENTY

Posted by: pdv1 | September 23, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Love her or hate her, no one can deny that Rhee made a tremendous improvement in the quality of the schools, demanded responsibility from its employees, and increased the quality of educational opportunities afforded students.

Given the fact that DC still spends more per pupil than any other school system with increasing, but by no means stellar, results, there obviously is still a long way to go.

The "philosophical discussion", I suspect, was put in far more genteel and delicate terms, but esentially boiled down to whether the entire school system will once again be relegated to a primary purpose of not actually educating the youth, but rather perhaps an equally important consideration of protecting the continued employment of incompetent and under-performing employees.

I submit you can't have it both ways.

Keep in mind, people, the primary, and for that matter, only function of any school system is to educate students, NOT to accomodate the desire of guaranteed lifetime employment of its employees.


Posted by: LAWPOOL | September 23, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Gray can't fire Rhee until January 2, 2010. He can flex his muscle on November 2...and say to Rhee don't let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya...

The crying issue what is the point... She didn't cry to get the job... So, why would she cry when she loses the job. I don't get it. A self-imposed gag-order on both parts is quite unusual. I think it is a done deal that Rhee is gone...but no need to announce it and give some uknown mayoral-hopeful challenger fodder for the upcoming campaign.

My prediction is she wants to tell her family first, get-married, google a moving service and be outta here by December.

I betcha the two most over-used words in that conversation was Gray saying "disingenious" and Rhee saying "devastating." While both mumbled at times damn-it!!!

I just wonder about the DC money-machine and what pull will they eventually have in all of this speculation.

Posted by: PowerandPride | September 23, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Given Rhee's reprehensible behavior before, during and since the primary campaign, the honorable thing would be for her to resign... and the sooner the better.

But I somehow suspect that she doesn't quite hold herself up to the same standards that she expects from others.

Posted by: Vic1 | September 23, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

LOLOLOL!!! Rhee...shaken? Gray is my new hero. What did he do to her?

Posted by: forgetthis | September 23, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

At the daylife.com site, compare the picture from the Waiting For Superman premiere and Miss Rhee standing around Mr. Gray.
What a difference a week makes!

As for being on the verge of tears, maybe Mr. Gray said she could keep her job if she publicly admitted her mistakes and untruths.

Posted by: edlharris | September 23, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

If Gray's first move is to force out Rhee, the City of Newark is waiting for her with open arms ...

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/23/education/23newark.html

DC's loss - the morons who hate Rhee do not care about the children in DC schools.

Posted by: mwalsh3a | September 23, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

DC is a leper colony.

Enjoy your third world status, and the coming stagnation under Gray!! :-)

Yay for crime and bad schools!!

He came and talked about my church!!

Yay for Union jobs at the expense of poor children!!

Posted by: ObamaisFraud | September 23, 2010 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Its sad how many people are happy over the best head of DC schoolsin the last 30+ years. Are your kids brighter? Do you even have kids? I doubt you all would be cheering the same if she was Black instead of Asain. I look forward to Gray working with Marion Barry and the rest of the board to find a mouthpiece for the teachers union.

The worst part is the only ones who really go to DCPS are the ones who need the change. The families from the richer wards already send their kids to private schools.

Posted by: Natstural | September 23, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

I'm sure it was in the best interest for Michele Rhee not to discuss what went on in the meeting. (Mr. Gray now who is being arrogant) I can almost imange this meeting was to let her know who the boss will be come Nov 2nd, no question! It sounds like to me he promised some people something too (he would like to hire back some of the 260 teachers who were laid off)! I support her and stand by her decision to insure that my child would have a better quality education. For everyone who did not vote for a better DC I'll be looking at the polls in 2-3 yrs after Gray’s administration is put in place.

Posted by: rjefferson | September 23, 2010 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Turque is saying Rhee was “drawn and shaken-looking” coming out of the meeting.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcschools/2010/09/gray_and_rhee_finally_meet.html

Posted by: efavorite | September 23, 2010 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Just because someone doesn't like Michelle Rhee does not mean that they support a failing school system. Frankly, there are people out there who could effect more change without alienating the people that are charged with making that change. Think about it, if you loved your job but your boss was a total jerk who consistently and publicly denigrated your profession (Rhee has said teaching is not a life long career, 4 years and teachers should move on) and offered little support (look at Rhee's terrible track record on professional development despite hiring largely from TFA who provide only 6 weeks in educational pedagogy, classroom management, ect.)you may feel alienated yourself. Especially, when your boss has publicly admitted how bad he or she was when doing your job (Rhee admitted to putting tape over the mouths of 3 graders who she could not control and laughed when she said the tape made their mouths bleed)

I am also impressed with the number of clairvoyants in this city who are able to be so sure that Gray is going to support ineffective teachers and ruin the school system.

I will fully admit, I am not a huge fan of WTU (this is the group who when the central office misfiled my health insurance paper work leaving me, a full time classroom teacher, without health insurance for 6-months, said that they didn't handle benefits. Wait, what? So, what do you do?), a properly functioning union is an important thing for teachers. Please understand that a Union is supposed to be there for the rights of the workers. This can include legal counsel for employees being sexually harassed by other staff members, fighting for fair wages for all employees to be able to feed their families, negotiating for better health care for staff for starters as some examples. When a union is properly run it is there to support teacher so that they in turn can support students. It is up to the teachers to create a union that works for them.

Posted by: Truman4 | September 23, 2010 3:30 PM | Report abuse

samvped205 wrote: "Why didn't Gray fire Rhee today? Just asking!"

How about the fact that he isn't the Mayor, yet, and doesn't have the authority. What a dumb question.

Getting rid of Rhee will just subject DC school children to the same substandard system they endured before she came. This is all about the hurt feelings of teachers and parents. Really looking out for the kids, huh? How pathethic.

Posted by: wearedoomed1 | September 23, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Tears??? Video, or it didn't happen!

She does look a bit shaken up in those daylife pictures, like she's seen a ghost.

Posted by: hoos3014 | September 23, 2010 3:37 PM | Report abuse

She always looks like that to me!!

Posted by: kendra2 | September 23, 2010 3:39 PM | Report abuse

To those who will be happy to see Rhee go....are you one of the fired "teachers/educators?" To the others who are glad to see her leave, are you clueless? Do you care about the children, or about lazy people getting paychecks?

Rhee will have NO problem getting a job. Smart people appreciate her honesty - a rare trait in most political appointees, and she could work almost anywhere else, with more money, less grief, and grateful parents. It's a no-brainer for her to leave. Speaking of no-brainers...God help this city now that we're going back to Marion Barry times...

Posted by: juraski | September 23, 2010 3:45 PM | Report abuse

My kids will definitely be going to private school. With Rhee gone, there is no hope that the school system will be better any time soon.

Posted by: VarlyisNarly | September 23, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

The video of the press conference is on fox5, see http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/news/local/gray-meets-with-rhee-to-discuss-dc-schools-092310

didn't catch the teary-eyed moment, but it was very awkward, especially toward the end.

Posted by: DeQuendre | September 23, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

I think she looks angry and I think he told her he would do the talking and she "agreed". She looked like she was trying to get the reporters to talk to him. She left because it was a waste of time to be standing there when she has a job to do.

My prediction (rather obvious) they won't be able to work together.

Posted by: celestun100 | September 23, 2010 3:47 PM | Report abuse

@faroutdc: Thanks for the link. Wow!

Posted by: candycane1 | September 23, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Oh, great. Move over birthers, truthers, and baggers, make room for the tapers. Mind your sources, and don't skip past the ones that do have a command of English.

All I want is to hear someone say they wish more kids in DC grew up knowing something, or at least being good at something.

Something. Let's start with that.

Posted by: Godfather_of_Goals | September 23, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Whew!

I wish I was a fly in Mayor-Apparent Gray's office today. Looks like he told his mind and served Rhee a gigantic piece of HUMBLE PIE. They may not have discussed her future, but after looking at that video, it's all but certain that come November 3rd, she will be FORMER Chancellor Michelle Rhee.

Posted by: LUlion07 | September 23, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Again, an outside looking in.... some of you are hilarious about bashing her... before she came, the DC school system was a complete sham... schools run down, not enough books, underqualified teachers that only cared about a check adn protection fro mtheir union. She comes in, tells you it is going to be a long process, tough decisons will have to be made, even unpopular ones... i nthe time she has been here, your school system is slowly improving in every aspect but since she took over. Change is not always liked by all but you got to admit, she did what she said she was going to do. Now, when things start to fall off wioth schools , Ibet you Rhee and Fenty will get blamed for that too.. when the problem is in who took over. Again, I am outside looking in because I am not a DC resident nor will I ever be one. I was jsut making a simple observation.... BTW the poster that asked why Gray did not fire her today... he can't, he is not officially Mayor yet.. that is why there were no discussions about her job. Come after Nov 2nd, then he can let her go.

Posted by: rvanags | September 23, 2010 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Wearedppmed1: Sorry. I sent my comment before thinking as I said in a previous post. I did not mean for it to be a dumb question. I forgot about the fact that Mr. Gray was not mayor yet. So so sorry. Please forgive me for not thinking.

How about the fact that he isn't the Mayor, yet, and doesn't have the authority. What a dumb question.

Posted by: samvped205 | September 23, 2010 3:53 PM | Report abuse

@juraski
I don't think all teachers are lazy.

I have never been fired in my life.

I happen to disgree with Rhee's ideas that teachers don't need much training and that good teachers are all young.

My own kids go to schools with experienced teachers and their superintendents praise the teachers.

I have taught in city schools and I know it is tough work. I don't see anything wrong with firing poor performers. Firing good teachers is wrong, however. I also don't believe top down systems are very good.

I don't believe that calling something "reform" is the same thing as actually reforming something and I don't like the one sided view of "Waiting for Superman" or whatever it was called.

Posted by: celestun100 | September 23, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

She won't have a problem getting a job. She's one of the top three education system reformers in the country and a bidding war will start between cities trying to hire her.

That is, if Obama doesn't someday grab her for Secretary of Education.

Posted by: HillmanDC | September 23, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

I was thinking. Since Rhee said if Fenty lost, she would not work under Gray. Why didn't she quit.

What's wrong with this picture?

Why didn't Gray fire Rhee today? Just asking!

Posted by: samvped205 | September 23, 2010 2:22 PM | Report abuse
______________
Probably because Gray ISN'T mayor yet...the election isn't until November!!! Jesus! Learn how the system works first...

Posted by: WildBill1 | September 23, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

I am really frustrated at this year election; I feel the city/community as a whole are acting like children who are no longer getting their way! As soon as you have a responsible parent/Mayor in control of his city and do not fall for any and everything around him, then a tantrum is thrown because you are no longer getting your way…..I am a DC resident and have been all my life. I was a young teenage mom when Barry was in office and everyone was loving each other; (don’t miss understand he did good coming in but eventually allow the city to fall short keeping everyone happy) by the time I was able to see the city for what it really was Barry was in office for over 10 years and our city was a mess!!! Question for all of you Gray supporters; how come Gray did not run against Barry? No need to responded “please allow me” - he too benefit from the HUGE MEAL TICKET that was being provided to him. What’s the matter no careful planned thoughts during this time? I really feel bad for my city! Understand I do not like paying $0.05 a bag, or having to pay for parking, but when I look at the good vs. the bad the good wins. I know that my trash will be taken away at least 2x a week, my street is clean, my child is getting a better education, there are nice clean recreations centers that I can visit most programs are free and affordable.

Posted by: rjefferson | September 23, 2010 3:56 PM | Report abuse

rvanags: Thanks for clarification. At least you didn't call me dumb. Thanks and have a great day!!

Posted by: samvped205 | September 23, 2010 3:57 PM | Report abuse

It's fascinating to see how people are reacting to this. Whether you like her style or not, you have to admit that she's an intelligent woman who took on what most of us wouldn't do any amount of money. I can't say I agree with all of her methods, but I respect her for fighting the good fight.

For all those out there who are practically gloating at her inevitable firing, guess what, she will probably get a better and more rewarding job elsewhere.

Posted by: AverageJoe10 | September 23, 2010 4:00 PM | Report abuse

When someone gets fired for improving test scores, and keeping GOOD teachers who actually work, something is very wrong with the people support her firing.
Gray will win, the teacher's union will win, and all the underachievers will win.

NOT the students in the district who DESERVE a quality education.

Sadly I'm not stunned by this whole chain of events since I hold no faith in our electorate anymore.

Posted by: jiboo | September 23, 2010 4:00 PM | Report abuse

She's meat.

Next!

Posted by: bs2004 | September 23, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

WillBill1 stated: __
Probably because Gray ISN'T mayor yet...the election isn't until November!!! Jesus! Learn how the system works first...

I will leave it to you to know the system since you are so smart. Take a hike!!

Posted by: samvped205 | September 23, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

It's about time Rhee was made to feel the same way she has made teachers feel in DCPS. I hope Gray treated her with the same disrespect and vitriol she has inflicted on the teachers in DCPS.

The vast majority of us are hard workers who go above and beyond the call of duty. Most of us never deserved the constant bashing, disrespect and demeaning treatment we have received under her "leadership."

Posted by: UrbanDweller | September 23, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

samvped205, seriously, please STOP APOLOGIZING! We get it okay. Just ignore people who keep beating the same drum.

Posted by: forgetthis | September 23, 2010 4:09 PM | Report abuse

No degree in education, no PhD, No Masters in education, Never been a principal, never been a superintendent and never handle a big budget. Yet white votes insist DC black voters are stupid and don't care about our kids. That's just it. We do. You don't. All you folks care about is promoting an image of Black incompetence. This has become one of the most racist issues I've seen. It's total blindness by white people all in the name of us vs them. White vs Black. You folks don't give a hoot about DC Black kids. Who are you kidding. This is about symbolism.

That's why Rhee must go. She crushes the dreams of young Black kids who want to teach. You see according to Rhee and you NW Washington folk, Blacks can't teach. My niece wants to teach the last thing we need in this city is someone telling the world Black folks are bad teachers. Let the door hit her where the Lord split her.

Posted by: kentonsmith | September 23, 2010 4:11 PM | Report abuse

He can't fire her not can she tender her resignation to him since he is NOT the mayor.

I don't have children in DCPS but sometimes Karma is a b....

I can believe that she didn't speak because she couldn't control the message. Gray was there and anything she said would have to be factual.

Posted by: rlj1 | September 23, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

DC schools have been a disaster for decades. There was a lot of entrenched incompetency that Rhee or any body else had to get rid of. Unfortunately it was all black. We may not like the image of Rhee being hard hearted, but the decades of sh** had to be removed. It wasn't racially motivated. I'm sure that theres a hell of a lot more than needs to be purged. Pls don't let the schools backslide.

Posted by: almelbe | September 23, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

HOLY COW!! That video is amazing. What Rhee is doing is exactly how my five year old acts when we put her in timeout; she couldn't be farther away from Gray (and the microphones!) if she tried.

US Airways Flight 1423 to Sacramento leaves DCA at 5:45 am tomorrow....who wants to bet that she won't be on that plane??

Posted by: hoos3014 | September 23, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Oops typo 1st sentence 4th word - should be "nor".

Posted by: rlj1 | September 23, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Pfft. I saw the video. Rhee looked just fine to me. Mum's the word, but I didn't see any tears and she certainly didn't look shaken to me.

Posted by: forgetthis | September 23, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse

It's a no-win siutaiton for Gray. He fires her, he's anti-reform and beholden to the Teachers Union. He doesn't, he's a wimp.

He gave her a stern talking-to, but that's all he'll do.

Posted by: krickey7 | September 23, 2010 4:19 PM | Report abuse

hillmanDC -- I'm sure Rhee has a bright future ahead of her too. She said early on that she didn't intend to be a superintendent again after she left DC, but I'm sure after "Waiting for Superman" comes out she can become a well-paid speaker or consultant on school reform.

I cannot imagine her as Secretary of Education - at least not for long. The President would never give her the kind of freedom that Fenty did.

samvped205 -- I think all these people after you about your simple mistake may just be taking their anger about Rhee out on you.

Your mistake is minor compared to Rhee's "devastating" remark and they know it.

Posted by: efavorite | September 23, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Not finding many (any?) thoughtful discussions of DC public education from the perspective of the children. Agree or disagree with Rhee, the school kids are the ones to be affected by Gray's mayorship.

Please drop your nonsensical, petty comments are realize we're discussing the future of these children.

Posted by: williamhuxtan | September 23, 2010 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Rhee and Fenty were the answer. The schools in DC are horrible and will slide back down. Why is it wrong to fire teachers who are bad at their job? That is all she did. Now DC is going back to the old days of giving jobs to the inept started by Barry. Good Luck DC.

Posted by: maverick5 | September 23, 2010 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Loosing Rhee will be a huge loss for the DC Public School System - she had done more to improve the school system than any one previously.

Posted by: asmith1 | September 23, 2010 4:23 PM | Report abuse

@jiboo said it best: "Gray will win, the teacher's union will win, and all the underachievers will win. NOT the students in the district who DESERVE a quality education."

Gray is old-guard, and will guide DC back into its swamp of entitlement-driven Union-dominated bureaucracy. Fenty killed his reelection chances with his arrogance, it's true; but Gray will simply return DC to its long-standing position at the bottom of the educational heap.

Posted by: oc_ofb | September 23, 2010 4:25 PM | Report abuse

And DC schools will revert to past practices and continue to under perform and graduate many students who will have difficulty mastering basic college courses. The public will wail and throw their hands up the air.

The issues that Ms. Rhee had to face when she came into the job were the result of decades of neglect, mis-management, and being in bed with the unions. I have never regretted my decision to live in Montgomery County and now that I no longer have school-age children am enjoying life out in Loudoun County.

Posted by: bureaucrat1 | September 23, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

I just watched the video from the press conference and I don't see any moment where she appeared to be "tearful". And I would hardly describe her as grim-faced...That's how her face normally looks lol. The media is really hyping this thing up. Shaking my head...

Posted by: nativewashingtonian80 | September 23, 2010 4:27 PM | Report abuse

She already has a new job.

Posted by: CultureClub | September 23, 2010 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Looks like DC will be going backwards rather than forwards. Might as well have re-elected Marion Barry! With the people in DC it's all about me, me, me, me. Not, what's good for everyone and everything!

It's O.K. It doesn't matter if we have the most stupid children in the country, as long as teachers, who can not teach, get their $100K jobs back! Whatever, you reap what you sow!

Posted by: joejack65 | September 23, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

The District seems to have taken a step backward
After recent steps forward-looking
And it appears that for Ms. Rhee's replacement
The City Council soon may be looking.

If so, one can only hope that the Council
Will engage in recruitment, intense,
To find a replacement for Ms. Rhee
Who has at least half as much common sense.

In the meantime we won't wait with breath bated
For such a desired consummation
Hope for which may not come to fruition
For students in the capital of our nation:

"Hope in one hand, spit in the other, and see which fills up faster" (Apocraphal)

Posted by: Gonzage1 | September 23, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Wow! Well it looks like the folks who have no clue as to what went on during Rhee's time in D.C. are providing their two cents.
These are the folks who thought Bushes "Shock and Awe" strike on Iraq was impressive.

Rhee has been proven to be a fraud and if Newark wants her please take her.

To those who care to get historical knowledge of Rhee's tenure please see how this story begins. I think that the most ironic point in the story is that Rhee's relationship with D.C. started off all wrong. Like marrying the mistress you were sleeping with...it never ends well.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/11/AR2007061102383.html


Posted by: thelildiva4u | September 23, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse

The picture is priceless.

Posted by: PepperDr | September 23, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Those people who weren't thinking, when they asked why Gray didn't fire Rhee, where not alone and shouldn't feel bad. Most of the voters in DC weren't thinking when they voted for Gray, it is very foolish to vote for a glad hand over substance.

Posted by: mrshep | September 23, 2010 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Silly people, don't you get it? Gray has to answer to all the people paying for the DC Gov, the city services, DCPS, as well as all of the private doners who have reached into their pocket books and written checks to DCPS because a "legitimate" reformer is in place. These people are the educated-tax-paying-citizens of DC.

If she goes, the private checks stop coming, then budget shortfalls, cuts in schools, angry educated-tax-paying- citizens fighting you tooth and nail every step of the way. A very bad situation to be in.

Do you really think Gray is that stupid to cater only to the low-income-uneducated-broke-down-entitlement-crowd-citizens?

The folks who don't have a clue as to how the world works because they were educated in DCPS? Gray loses money for DC if he fires her. Gray loses credibility with the folks that pay for the low-income-uneducated-broke-down-entitlement-crowd-citizens, whose tax dollars go toward the subsidization of housing (Section-8), and the food stamp program (WIC).

Believe me when I say that it ain't gonna happen. If you went to a school other than DCPS you would already know that.

Do you want to hear a funny fact? You average low-income-uneducated-broke-down-entitlement-crowd-citizen has no concept of where the money comes from that pays their subsidized rent or their WIC food money. They think it comes out of thin air and that the government is a black box that just "is". They have no concept that some guy or gal working their tail off gives up a significant portion of their hard-earned wages to support all of the city services, DCPS, and the "entitlement programs".

It comes down to that fact that you are either a producer in this country and city or you are a taker who does nothing but live off of the producers.

The sad fact is, whether your concept of government is that it is simply what sends you your welfare check, pays your section-8 rent, and provides food stamps(WIC), or whether you understand that the money goes out of a "producer's" pocket and into a "taker's" pocket, you still get to vote. Hence, the results in the Gray/Fenty DC Primary.

Posted by: IgnorantPeopleofDC | September 23, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Rhee looks devasated.

Posted by: Aerowaz | September 23, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

bwa-ha. I'll take "DCPS climbs back into its gold-plated dumpster" for 400, Alex.

Posted by: redlineblue | September 23, 2010 4:53 PM | Report abuse

For those of you who think Rhee shouldn't go ask yourselves why are our third grader who arrived in the school system when Rhee did 3 years ago doing so poorly? See analysis here:
http://gfbrandenburg.wordpress.com/2010/08/20/detailed-results-on-the-dc-cas-for-2010-3rd-grade/
Rhee doesn't want to stay because she will eventually have to answer for outcomes in elementary reading and math that have slid to 2007 levels. Gains from 2006-2007 can largely be attributed to her predecessor and the slide in elementary math and reading outcomes is a major embarrassment especially given the level of noise she has made in the national press. Let's be honest the tears (may be real, may be for dramatic effect) who knows lack of job security is hard... but then she also has a movie to promote...

Posted by: rastajan | September 23, 2010 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Here goes DC back to the future of the "Jobs for Jobs-Sake."

It's about the children, the children! How many long-time residents in DC even know what a good public school is? My children attended for a year, in upper NW. And the teachers did not care about either child. They turned away from parents to do email during a conference. And my kids worked hard and were polite. That has been proved in two years of private school afterwards.

Does Rhee have an ego? Yes.

Did Rhee rub every non-child education interest the wrong way? Yes, with GOOD reason.

Did Rhee ignore those who said slow down? Yes.

But she had a child-centered focus and plan. Neither Gray (a hack) nor his union cronys do. I have been in and around DC for 25 years. The government has catered to the least competent employees, and has had a school system that cares for everything but the students.

One-term Gray: the voting demographics mean the 80s Berry approach he took will be obsolete in five years.

It's about the kids, not the incompetent teachers who are now flipping burgers.

Posted by: BeenThere13 | September 23, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

"So is he going to be "Mr. Nice Guy" to the teachers, or is he going to be a great guy for the children? You can't have it both ways"

Really - you can't be decent to teachers and students at the same time? Either the teachers suffer or the kids suffer?

Sounds like an idiotic notion of Michelle Rhee's.

Posted by: efavorite | September 23, 2010 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Maybe she was grim and speechless because he asked her to stay!

(And, watching the video, I didn't see a tearful look.)

Posted by: justsayin | September 23, 2010 5:06 PM | Report abuse

BTW a staff member at DCPS told me that Rhee has no intentions of staying. At this point we are all just along for the ride until she decides to pin blame on whomever or whatever she wants...
What a charade.. who can take this seriously...

Posted by: rastajan | September 23, 2010 5:06 PM | Report abuse

With the new mayoral governance structure over DCPS, the next credentialed and experienced school chief will now be able to move the system strides forward, without all of the unnecessary divisive stunts and insubordinate character assassinations brought to it by Chancellor Rhee.

To the chagrin of the 'people-worshipers' of Chancellor Rhee, DCPS will continue its progress to greatness.

If you 'rhee-worshipers' like her so much, HIRE HER!!! She will soon be a free agent.

Posted by: concernedaboutdc | September 23, 2010 5:12 PM | Report abuse

kentonsmith wrote:

"...Yet white votes insist DC black voters are stupid and don't care about our kids. That's just it. We do. You don't. All you folks care about is promoting an image of Black incompetence. This has become one of the most racist issues I've seen. It's total blindness by white people all in the name of us vs them. White vs Black. You folks don't give a hoot about DC Black kids. Who are you kidding. This is about symbolism."
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This attitude speaks volumes. It's all about symbolism? Wow. Guess you'll be happy when your kids go back to a time not long ago.

BTW, Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson do a pretty good job of maintaining the status quo of "White vs Black". They don't need any help.

Posted by: wearedoomed1 | September 23, 2010 5:15 PM | Report abuse

It has been said that a picture speaks a thousand words. Could it be that "Warrior Woman" has been reduced to "Worried Woman"?

Posted by: shank2sb | September 23, 2010 5:17 PM | Report abuse

Rhee and Gates, a good pair....... windows and explorer though making him money were always second rate as was/is Rhee.

those two are second rate

as a teacher not in D.C. i am hoping to see real reform, not just blame on the teachers for a lack of achievement that is a direct result of the discrimination and cycle of poverty that the white male establishment perpetuated for years. As a white male who has taught on the District line and among the enabled fortunate middle class children elsewher private and public, i know more then Rhee.

Hope Oprah doesn't jump on the Rhee/ Superman bandwagon. As she is clueless in most matters and has shown that in her choices, she probably will. As for the "Superman" guy, you don't know ........ what a biased look and inaccurate generalities.

Good choice D.C. demand fairness and reform, and reject these folks that have no clue.

Posted by: agra09 | September 23, 2010 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Michelle Rhee is "acting out" part of her drama.

Posted by: ElRosas | September 23, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Ding dong, the witch is dead.

Posted by: stantonpark | September 23, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Rhee cares about the kids in DC and their educations, and she fought for them valiantly. If the feelings of a bunch of imcompetent and lazy teachers were hurt in that battle, it was worth it. Fenty might have lost the election, but he and Rhee will go on to other good things. The real losers here are the kids from DC who are the victims of an incompetent bureaucracy that cares only for itself.

Posted by: emily8 | September 23, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Obviously Rhee was the only person with courage in that meeting. Gray is scared of making the necessary change to our schools.

Posted by: kcflood87 | September 23, 2010 5:31 PM | Report abuse

david_5570 |Are you the same David whose wife works for Fenty?

The Rheeformers are truly sounding desperate. Rhee and her groupies are not the only people who care about the children of DC. I think most of you work for Fenty or Rhee and are afraid of losing your jobs.

You lost your chance to bring back segregation to DC. MOVE ON.

Posted by: guylady201001 | September 23, 2010 5:44 PM | Report abuse

she looks neither shaken nor close to tears -- she looks tired

Posted by: Washington Post Editors | September 23, 2010 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Disregarding the snarky comments about Rhee's demeanor - she's not going to have any trouble at all finding a better-paying, more rewarding job. I suspect she appeared upset because Gray told her he intends to roll back everything she did. If your kids go to DC schools, consider this to be fair warning.

Posted by: gilbertbp | September 23, 2010 5:46 PM | Report abuse

I am glad someone finally shut her up! her ego can't handle a good talking to. I think Gray may have reminded her that there is such a thing as an electorate.

While I am happy that test scores have improved and there has been a shake-up, what bothered me greatly about her approach is that it is not one that is sustainable over time. It will take a generation to turn the schools around, but with her anti-democratic methods it is simply unsustainable. Furthermore, most studies illustrate the connection between poverty and poor school performance. Was Fenty ever going to address this major hurdle to comprehensive school reform in DC?!

Posted by: mjf32 | September 23, 2010 5:54 PM | Report abuse

kcflood87 says, "Obviously Rhee was the only person with courage in that meeting. Gray is scared of making the necessary change to our schools."

Watch the video and then say who had courage and who was scared.

Washington post editors (really?) - to me Rhee looked shaken - and exasperated and muzzled too. Not tired.

I wonder who told her to stand to the side and not comment. Not Gray, I bet. Possibly her media trainer or maybe even Arne Duncan or Fenty. Saying "no comment" is really the only sure way for Rhee to avoid saying something really dumb. Her handlers know that about her now.

Posted by: efavorite | September 23, 2010 5:55 PM | Report abuse

Did anyone notice that Rhee had the look? You know, the look you get when learning of your boo's secret escapades with the neighbor!

I bet Vince got the dirt and on Kevin and pictures to prove it. That's why she was so visible shaken and speechless. There’s nothing that can pierce the morale of a Braveheart Warrior Woman, except a cheating lover.

I know from experience, I had the same look when I found out about my boo and I couldn't mumble a freakin word!

Just joking! But seriously, I do believe Gray uncovered something that will end her career and possible have criminal charges brought against her.

Her entire career has been based on a facade and lies.

Posted by: GoldCoast | September 23, 2010 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Rhee did a GREAT job in DC and will no doubt be offered a federal level job in the Obama administration where she will do a GREAT job nationally! Good luck DC you are going to need it if Rhee leaves. You heard it here 1st - Rhee is headed to a federal position, likely to replace Duncan soon.

Posted by: iknowbest | September 23, 2010 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Correction, it should read:

I bet Vince got the dirt on Kevin and pictures to prove it. That's why she was so visibly shaken and speechless. There’s nothing that can pierce the morale of a Braveheart Warrior Woman, except a cheating lover.

Posted by: GoldCoast | September 23, 2010 6:14 PM | Report abuse

If Gray keeps Rhee, Lanier, and all the other Fenty appointees, WHAT has he changed?; should have just voted for Fenty, right? She said she will be "okay" so why do we care, and can we please stop being bombarded with Rhee stories; enough already!

Posted by: teresaking | September 23, 2010 6:14 PM | Report abuse

I watched the video, and it appeared to me that Rhee was trying to be inconspicuous and did not want to speak to the media. No, she did not look especially happy to be there, but she in no way looked close to tears.

As to Rhee's performance and the likelihood of her staying on as Chancellor: (1)Rhee deserves credit for the improvements in test scores that took place under her leadership-- she did indeed put students first. (2) It is a pity that Rhee made the teachers the enemy-- that burned many potential bridges and made reform more contentious than it otherwise might have been. (3)It is also a pity (although perhaps understandable) that all of this occurred under intensive media scrutiny, which exacerbated tensions. (4)Rhee will likely depart for a higher paying job elsewhere. I have mixed feelings on this: can an equally qualified candidate be found in short order? I am not sure of the answer.

Posted by: ANetliner | September 23, 2010 6:16 PM | Report abuse

What I find most astonishing in all of these comments is the continued venom - on both sides.

I am one of those who will be glad to see Rhee leave because I think she is under-qualified for the post to which she was appointed (whoever heard of a school chancellor without even a Master's Degree?), and an extremely poor manager. Either she did not know how much was in the budget when she hired teachers in the summer, then fired teachers in the fall, or she told blatant lies about why she fired experienced teachers and retained inexperienced ones. The most likely reason was to break the union to improve her position in contract negotiations. But no matter what her rationale, she created a PR nightmare that divided this city and helped to bring down Fenty.

I do hope, however, that now we can stop the name calling and the anger and the racism and focus on our future. She is not a miracle worker, she just had a great publicist. She chose to do the unthinkable and actively campaign for the mayor, while simultaneously proclaiming that she could not work for a Gray administration, even as the polls made it clear that Gray would win. So be it. I say good bye and good luck.

Posted by: bells1 | September 23, 2010 6:17 PM | Report abuse

I have never regretted my decision to live in Montgomery County and now that I no longer have school-age children am enjoying life out in Loudoun County.

Posted by: bureaucrat1

THat's funny after you damn the DC teacher union.

Didn't you get the message from Jo-Ann Armao and Fred Hiatt of the editorial page that the teachers union in Montgomery County is another monster on whom you can blame the potholes.

Posted by: edlharris | September 23, 2010 6:17 PM | Report abuse

No degree in education, no PhD, No Masters in education, Never been a principal, never been a superintendent and never handle a big budget. Yet white votes insist DC black voters are stupid and don't care about our kids. That's just it. We do. You don't. All you folks care about is promoting an image of Black incompetence. This has become one of the most racist issues I've seen. It's total blindness by white people all in the name of us vs them. White vs Black. You folks don't give a hoot about DC Black kids. Who are you kidding. This is about symbolism.

That's why Rhee must go. She crushes the dreams of young Black kids who want to teach. You see according to Rhee and you NW Washington folk, Blacks can't teach. My niece wants to teach the last thing we need in this city is someone telling the world Black folks are bad teachers. Let the door hit her where the Lord split her.

Posted by: kentonsmith | September 23, 2010 4:11 PM | Report abuse
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"Yet white votes insist DC black voters are stupid and don't care about our kids. That's just it. We do. You don't." It's not about "care". It is about competence. My Montgomery County 8th grade English teacher back in 1970 hated the one black kid in her class, but I still learned English. Black people have been running DC for 40 years -- that's two generations. And things never get any better. That's just a fact. And the biggest reason is because black people never want to do things a different way (like, for instance, vote Republican). DC is the last bastion of the Great Society. Everyone else figured out that it didn't work, but in DC, they're still working it.

It doesn't matter what someone calls you, it does matter what you answer to. That many racist whites want to paint a picture of black incompetence doesn't change the FACT that DC Government, controlled by black Democrats for 40 years, have consistently failed at whatever task it set out to do, be it criminal justice, education, housing, you name it. (Well, except for parking enforcement, we're the New York Yankees of holding cars hostage to get paid.) It hasn't changed and until DC changes radically from a demographic standpoint it will not change.

Posted by: gbooksdc | September 23, 2010 6:20 PM | Report abuse

To the Rhee-worshipers:

To say that Rhee will get another job doesn't bother anyone. In fact, I hope she does. Unlike she and her worshipers, I wish no ill will upon her. I just don't think a divisive, ill-mannered, insubordinate figure is a good fit for reform, in any urban school district. Her paternalistic superiority complex is what did her in with the citizens who pay her salary. I think both she and Fenty forgot about it.

Our children will be fine. School reform will move strides forward. The question is, will you be able to get over your bitterness long enough to see it.

Doubtful.


Posted by: concernedaboutdc | September 23, 2010 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Kind of an idiotic headline. She doesn't look shaken at all, and certainly no tears that I saw. Subdued, yes. Is that a crime? lol.... And for the provincial types who says she's all washed up or got a taste of her own medicine -- come on! this woman can now write her own meal ticket out of this town, you have no idea what you're talking about. She will have plenty of opportunities before her.

Posted by: jeffcoud2 | September 23, 2010 6:28 PM | Report abuse

The slow drift backwards towards non-performance has begun.

Posted by: postfan1 | September 23, 2010 6:31 PM | Report abuse

White guy from Montgomery County(no agenda) says, what a melodramatic bi#%, her behavior over the past month proves she has no class or genuine concern for those poor children.

Posted by: jimh7 | September 23, 2010 6:34 PM | Report abuse

Comrades: When Rhee dresses-down certain teachers, its OK. But when she is dressed-down . . . . Harry S. Truman had it correct . . .

Posted by: rep15 | September 23, 2010 6:44 PM | Report abuse

The fast pace forward is just on the horizon. We are on credentialed, experienced Chancellor away from excellence.

Go D.C....Go DCPS...

Posted by: concernedaboutdc | September 23, 2010 6:45 PM | Report abuse

Rhee fired a bunch of incompetent teachers who helped vote Fenty out. They want their jobs back and Gray will have to repay the people who voted him in.

Gray will take DC back to the Marian Barry days.

Posted by: neil64 | September 23, 2010 6:46 PM | Report abuse

Rhee fired a bunch of incompetent teachers who helped vote Fenty out. They want their jobs back and Gray will have to repay the people who voted him in.

Gray will take DC back to the Marian Barry days.

Posted by: neil64 | September 23, 2010 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Did anybody see the news on Channel 9? Rhee wasn't talking but the boyfriend was. She wouldn't answer Bruce Johnson who asked her about staying in DC and he asked her about the rumor that she had married. The boyfriend says we are not married yet and he further stated that Rhee has not ruled out staying in DC. He said she has other offers but the chairman and Rhee will have more conversations about what he wants and if she is the right fit for his administration. What happened to all of that I will not work for Gray and his win is devastating?

Rhee keeping a job in DC makes it easier to have a bicoastal marriage especially when the "1st" husband and "his" children live here. That wind knocked out of her sail look probably means a lot of other issues as well. But that's her problem. I just want Gray to let her resign after the election and when it becomes official.

Posted by: candycane1 | September 23, 2010 6:50 PM | Report abuse

I believe that Ms. Rhee photo op showed her displeasure with Mr. Gray. Mr. Gray is trying to when over the masses with the potential firing of Ms. Rhee. I believe it will be a mistake. No one really wants to embrace change, but want to stay the status quo. Shame on Mr. Gray and those that think like him. I am a product of the DCPS system and I can say that I wasn't prepared for College when it was time to go. So, is it wrong for Ms. Rhee and those that think like her to want more for the children? NO!! Only those that want to go back to the old days of policies are crying the loudest. The teacher union is a JOKE. I have friends that are currently DCPS teachers and they have said over the years that they tired of no support, no formal training and more kids in the classroom than they can handle. It looks like we are heading back to the "old" days.

Posted by: v377976 | September 23, 2010 6:51 PM | Report abuse

Let me see if I've got this straight... there is absolutely Nothing that a teacher can do to force a student to do homework... No homework, no learning. No learning, no passing a test. student doesn't pass the test, the *Teacher* gets fired???

In the several years of nationwide discussions on this subject of underperforming students, teachers, and entire schools... where is even the slightest mention of a PARENT? If the parent doesn't require that the student (CHILD) studies and makes a Good effort to learn and retain knowledge, what's a teacher going to do?

It seems that across the nation, the only critera for judging an instructors job performance is how the students *assigned* to that teacher perform. They're saved or doomed from the very start by pure luck of the draw. Rhee is much better educated than I'll ever be. She knew this (or Should've know it) as she coldly Terminated many individuals dreams and livelyhoods for situations over which they had No Control. She had choices, and chose the scapegoat route. Good Riddance!

Posted by: MTfromDC | September 23, 2010 6:57 PM | Report abuse

I think Gray did the right thing in just "talking" with Rhee. Gray is not the Mayor; there is nearly half a school year before he will be Mayor. In the meantime, Rhee has to run them.

The schools would have been in a real mess if Gray had announced Rhee will be fired in January. She would be a very lame "lame duck" until then.

Posted by: esch | September 23, 2010 7:00 PM | Report abuse

Can someone please tell me how much courage it takes to defame someone's character, falsely. Can someone tell me how much courage it takes to jury rig a system that gets rid of targeted teachers with a questionable evaluation. Can someone tell me how much courage it takes to manipulate facts and data and then ask for the time you did not give to others when the data works against you. Can someone tell me how courageous it is to implement plans (many which were already in place when she arrived) that were supported by the mayor, city council, and chairman of the city council, the majority of the population, and the WTU (the union voted overwhelmingly for the new contract and its accountability). Ms. Rhee is not courageous. She is a very small person who projects her own feelings of inadequacy upon others.
If she was indeed shaken it was because, unlike Mayor Fenty, Councilman Gray let her know that she would not be able to cover her incompetance with petulant, rude, false, and obnoxious behavior. He let her know that she would also be held accountable.
Real Courage can be seen in Richmond, VA who has an African-American mayor, a qualified African-American superintendent, and a majority staff of African-American teachers who last year had 100% of their general ed. schools accredited. There was no vilification of teachers and no use of unqualified persons fresh out of college with no credentials to perform it. It was done with a lot of hard work and slow and meticulous planning to counteract the real problems that our children face every day. Ms. Rhee is not courageous. The ones with courage are the ones who in the face of withering criticism and denigration from their leader still went into the classroom and showed improvement in their children for which Ms. Rhee received the credit.

Posted by: 4therecord | September 23, 2010 7:06 PM | Report abuse

The best thing that Grey could do is keep Rhee and let her continue the reforms of DC's broken system. The mayor, whomever he may be at the moment, should keep kids in the center of the debate, and not teachers' job security. Its as if no one is willing to see the pink elephant in the room that isn't concerned with kids - the Teacher's Union. Continue the changes and get rid of the riff-raff that has been, and continues, to harm DC students.

Posted by: pjglazer | September 23, 2010 7:10 PM | Report abuse

Sad day, the teachers union has won yet again. I'm generally pro union, but in DC the teachers union has ground the school system into ground. They will ruin the future of another generation of children.

Posted by: macheko | September 23, 2010 7:13 PM | Report abuse

Will Michelle leave immediately when the truth comes out regarding how DCPS won the Race to the Top money? Why did the State Superintendent really leave on a one day notice? Was the data falsified that was submitted for the Race to the Top money? The elementary test scores fell 4.5 percent this year. Michelle fired many good educators and placed incompetent people in the schools. Many of these people did not stay on the job because they were not prepared to work with the young people.

I supported Rhee until I realized what a cold, cruel, vicious and hateful person she is. The true Michelle was seen today after her meeting with Chairman Gray.

She fired 265 people. Several of these people have died. Can she bring them back to their families?

Kevin Johnson was on the evening news today defending her. He said she can get a job anywhere. Who would want her?

Posted by: grezeldadyson | September 23, 2010 7:25 PM | Report abuse

The City Paper posted video from the hallway news conference. Rhee hardly looks shaken or close to tears. She looks like she just had a meeting with a new boss who she doesn't seem to like.

Posted by: harryejones | September 23, 2010 7:29 PM | Report abuse

Gray is not Rhee's boss; Fenty is, that's why Gray can't fire her. Rhee will join her husband (Mayor Johnson) in Sacramento and run their school system. Not sure who Gray will select as her replacement.

Posted by: madstamina | September 23, 2010 7:29 PM | Report abuse

Folks, Brother Gray just had a good ol' "Come to Jesus" meeting with Ms. Rhee.

Kinda told Rhee what time it was: Gray time! It was probably the first time Rhee ever had a legitimate black person with authority call her out on her dubious character and hurtful agenda. Rhee's eyes probably moistened right after Mayor Gray said, "And, furthermore, don't you ever...." LOL.

Stay strong, Mayor. Thanks for representing today.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | September 23, 2010 7:32 PM | Report abuse

Gray is not Rhee's boss; Fenty is, that's why Gray can't fire her. Rhee will join her husband (Mayor Johnson) in Sacramento and run their school system. Not sure who Gray will select as her replacement.

Posted by: madstamina | September 23, 2010 7:34 PM | Report abuse

I agree. Let's get the facts on the race to the top money and in fact the salaries being given to charter schools.

I want to know how much money Rhee is making on the side and I want to know if her so called non profit is benefitting in any way from dcps funds.


Posted by: JohnAdams1 | September 23, 2010 7:35 PM | Report abuse

If you've ever seen her in person, this was a different Michelle Rhee (watch the video). Somebody told her that yes her s*** does stink.

As Arne Duncan, secretary of education said in the NYT on Sunday, firing teachers isn't the answer:

Are there that many bad teachers in American public schools?

Are there some? Absolutely. The bigger issue for me going forward is we have a baby-boomer generation that’s getting ready to retire. This country is going to need a million new teachers. You can’t fire your way to the top.

Posted by: grclarkdc1 | September 23, 2010 7:36 PM | Report abuse

"Kevin Johnson was on the evening news today defending her. He said she can get a job anywhere. Who would want her?

Posted by: grezeldadyson | September 23, 2010 7:25 PM"
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Rhee'll never set foot in another big time public school system again, particularly one with any significant AA presence. She'll be no more welcome than nuclear waste. Rheeeeee-jected.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | September 23, 2010 7:37 PM | Report abuse

News Flash:
(click=>)
http://www.wusa9.com/news/breaking/story.aspx?storyid=112465&catid=158


Sacramento Mayor Kevin Johnson has apparently been trying very hard to help his fiancee (rabid Michelle Rhee) keep her DCPS Chancellor job and mostly stay 3,000 miles away from him in Washington, DC. He'd prefer for her to continue receiving her
large salary & benefits (courtesy of DC taxpayers), although he is
a multi-millionaire.

Most importantly, he wants to
keep her based in DC, rather
than have her spending too much
time nearby
in California supervising his "affairs"
(of state).

=> see news articles for reference re:
the current Sacramento mayor's
previously attempted galavanting with his
St. Hope Academy charter h.s. students
(teen minors)
and subordinate staff (Americorps teenagers)
when he was school head (and Michelle was
on his Board of Directors). ==>

(crucial, must read) ==>
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/Exclusive-Congressional-Report-Rhee-did-damage-control-after-sex-charges-against-fiancee-Kevin-Johnson.html

also, more detailed
info. =>
http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2009/11/20/what-was-michelle-rhees-damage-control-for-kevin-johnson/

and.....
http://rokdrop.com/2009/11/23/michelle-rhee-linked-to-kevin-johnson-sex-scandal-cover-up/

interesting.....
http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2010/03/11/wapo-kjs-mom-says-he-wasnt-a-womanizer-in-nba/

====================

Posted by: honestaction | September 23, 2010 7:39 PM | Report abuse

That is, if Obama doesn't someday grab her for Secretary of Education.

Posted by: HillmanDC | September 23, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse
_______________________
Wow! Someone even less qualified than Arne Duncan. If Obama was serious about hiring someone who gets results, he'd hire Jerry Weast.

Posted by: musiclady | September 23, 2010 7:39 PM | Report abuse

Lee must go! She is a character herself. Why did she abandon her former husbnd and the father of her kids? Character counts!!!

Posted by: yorkn72 | September 23, 2010 7:40 PM | Report abuse

That is a creepy video. I don't think that two people who can't even stand within 10 feet of each other can work together as Mayor and Chancellor.

Posted by: politicsdc | September 23, 2010 7:40 PM | Report abuse

She does not appear shaken or grim-faced to me. The Post prints one of the least flattering photos above.

Yellow journalism at its finest.

You don't "shake" Michelle Rhee.

Well, you all win. Fill the offices with blacks and cross your fingers. Chocolate City.

Posted by: Bitter_Bill | September 23, 2010 7:40 PM | Report abuse

Too bad for D.C. Rhee can get a job whereever she likes. Come on out to California - lots of districts in the Bay Area would LOVE to have you!!

Posted by: clampson | September 23, 2010 7:41 PM | Report abuse

News Flash:
(click =>)
http://www.wusa9.com/news/breaking/story.aspx?storyid=112465&catid=158


Sacramento Mayor Kevin Johnson has apparently been trying
very hard to help
his fiancee (rabid Michelle Rhee)
keep her DCPS Chancellor job and
mostly stay 3,000 miles away from him
in Washington, DC. He'd prefer for her
to continue receiving her large salary
& benefits (courtesy of DC taxpayers), although he is
a multi-millionaire.

Most importantly, he wants to
keep her based in DC, rather
than have her spending too much
time nearby
in California supervising his "affairs"
(of state).

=> see news articles for reference re:
the current Sacramento mayor's
previously attempted galavanting with his
St. Hope Academy charter h.s. students
(teen minors)
and subordinate staff (Americorps teenagers)
when he was school head (and Michelle was
on his Board of Directors). ==>

(crucial, must read) ==>
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/Exclusive-Congressional-Report-Rhee-did-damage-control-after-sex-charges-against-fiancee-Kevin-Johnson.html

also, more detailed
info. =>
http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2009/11/20/what-was-michelle-rhees-damage-control-for-kevin-johnson/

and.....
http://rokdrop.com/2009/11/23/michelle-rhee-linked-to-kevin-johnson-sex-scandal-cover-up/

interesting.....
http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2010/03/11/wapo-kjs-mom-says-he-wasnt-a-womanizer-in-nba/

====================

Posted by: honestaction | September 23, 2010 7:42 PM | Report abuse

A shame Tim Craig was (apparently) bullied into deleting the reference to Rhee crying. How dare he trust his lying eyes ... and everybody else's.

Again, Mayor Gray, thanks for getting up close and personal with her today as you Rhee-moved her.

Be nice, though. Give Rhee back her masking tape.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | September 23, 2010 7:44 PM | Report abuse

Rhee did a GREAT job in DC and will no doubt be offered a federal level job in the Obama administration where she will do a GREAT job nationally! ...
Posted by: iknowbest | September 23, 2010 6:05 PM"
____________

With all due respect ... Are you nuts?
You want to see 30 million black voters for Obama disappear in five seconds? Just even float the possibility of Michelle A. Rhee coming to the Administration.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | September 23, 2010 7:54 PM | Report abuse

To fix an F'ed up city and an even worse education system to have to fire all the idiots and corrupt fools. Too bad soo many brainiacs in DC dont like non-corrupt government that doest give handouts to lazy scofflaws. Instead you can have a "man of the people" who will return the city to its crappy standing. It's call pandering, google it...

Maybe Marion Barry can run and you can elect him again?

Posted by: shrshot | September 23, 2010 7:54 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Gray Mayor Elect has taken charge of the ship. Ms. Rhee power is gone. The
problem with the DC School System was it did not challenge the students. The system was tired and the fault was not with the teachers. They do not approve the study plans for the subject they teach, that is in the hands of people like Ms. Rhee but she came to DC School System without a study plan. She came here to fire and hire. She hired teachers who had never set foot in a class room and gave them prizes such as paying off their student loans and 6 months rent. Now ask yourself, do the children learn from those who have never been in a class room. Who are the loosers here, the children. Ms. Rhee did not do her job and those who think she did need to wake up. Ask yourself, where did she get the money to pay off the student loans and rent. These new teachers contracts were only for two years who would loose, the students again. Then after those contracts are over who will you hire next, more students with student loans, and finally we will get back to hiring those old teachers who they fired. Mr. Rhee did not come to DC with a study plan in her hands, otherwise we would not have had the hire and fire problems. Wake up DC you did the right thing. Set up a group of teachers, students, parents and specalist in the field and Mayor Elect and generate the best student plan for the student of our city. Also, set a standard color scheem of jeans ans shirt with the school that the student attends on the shirt as standard dress code. And finally, offer more subjects in such as Asst. Chef, Asst. Senior Care Spec., Auto Design, Computer Games design, auto repair, have a auto repair shop for low income (Gaitherburg offers that program) at the vocational schools levels. The auto dealers will help if asked. We all must help

Posted by: manningf9 | September 23, 2010 7:55 PM | Report abuse

Will Michelle leave immediately when the truth comes out regarding how DCPS won the Race to the Top money? Why did the State Superintendent really leave on a one day notice? Was the data falsified that was submitted for the Race to the Top money? The elementary test scores fell 4.5 percent this year. Michelle fired many good educators and placed incompetent people in the schools. Many of these people did not stay on the job because they were not prepared to work with the young people.

I supported Rhee until I realized what a cold, cruel, vicious and hateful person she is. The true Michelle was seen today after her meeting with Chairman Gray.

She fired 265 people. Several of these people have died. Can she bring them back to their families?

Kevin Johnson was on the evening news today defending her. He said she can get a job anywhere. Who would want her?

Posted by: grezeldadyson | September 23, 2010 7:57 PM | Report abuse

Gray doesn't want to "smart 'em up" too much, they might leave the plantation..

Posted by: wewintheylose | September 23, 2010 7:57 PM | Report abuse

Are there that many bad teachers in DC? Well, yeah!

In America, we hire our teachers from the bottom third of college graduates. Perhaps not coincidentally, our students are among the most ignorant in the developed world.

In countries with high-performing schools, the teachers are recruited from the top third of college graduates, and go through a tough training program that weeds out those which can't teach well. And the teachers who make the cut are paid a real professional salary.

Rhee started us down the road of firing incompetent teachers, and rewarding truly excellent teachers with better pay. But she was torpedoed by those who see teacher job security as more important than student achievement.

Posted by: vfr2dca | September 23, 2010 8:01 PM | Report abuse

It sounds like Gray or somebody finally got through that thick, sanctimonious skull of hers that she should shut her raving mouth and just do her job. That's exactly what I want. Rhee in her job, but on a long- and much-needed leash with a tight muzzle.

Posted by: uh_huhh | September 23, 2010 8:03 PM | Report abuse

"Kevin Johnson was on the evening news today defending her. He said she can get a job anywhere. Who would want her?

Posted by: grezeldadyson | September 23, 2010 7:57 PM"
___________

That's a false narrative the Rhee-jects are pushing. If it were true that Rhee could get a job anywhere, she would have already resigned as Chancellor. Her days in a big time school system in the U.S. are over.

Mayor Gray, we are so proud of you. Strength.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | September 23, 2010 8:09 PM | Report abuse

LAWPOOL said:

"Love her or hate her, no one can deny that Rhee made a tremendous improvement in the quality of the schools, demanded responsibility from its employees, and increased the quality of educational opportunities afforded students."

A lot of people are saying she did NOT make any improvement at all in the schools.

Posted by: educationlover54 | September 23, 2010 8:11 PM | Report abuse

LAWPOOL said:

"Love her or hate her, no one can deny that Rhee made a tremendous improvement in the quality of the schools, demanded responsibility from its employees, and increased the quality of educational opportunities afforded students."

A lot of people are saying she did NOT make any improvement at all in the schools.

Posted by: educationlover54 | September 23, 2010 8:11 PM | Report abuse

Michelle Rhee is the Paris Hilton of Educational reform. Let us not confuse social reform with media celebrity. Reform takes experience, leadership, skill and ability. Ms. Rhee was neither a leader, alienating all her consituencies Principals, Teachers, Administrators, Parents at least half of them. She was tactless, did not have the experience to begin with and possibly could not qualify as a School Suprintendent therefore being named as "Chancellor", and had a rough shod manner - firing teachers and principals is not educational reform it is increasing turnover. Her utopian idea that social circumstances make no difference in childerns education was idealistic and impractical and unrealistic. She served Fenty but not the community. She could have never brought about sustained reform. In neighboring Montgomery county Jerry Weast has completed 12 years and is retiring without so much as being on any show whatsoever or being hero worshipped by the Washington Post.

Posted by: amathur16 | September 23, 2010 8:12 PM | Report abuse


Michelle Rhee has nothing to be "grim faced" about or ashamed of. She brought pee in the DCPS system and I for one, commend her for her affords... She's a no nosense, get it done, kind of administrator. The likes of which are in short supply within the DC government...


Posted by: demtse | September 23, 2010 8:12 PM | Report abuse

LAWPOOL said:

"Love her or hate her, no one can deny that Rhee made a tremendous improvement in the quality of the schools, demanded responsibility from its employees, and increased the quality of educational opportunities afforded students."

A lot of people are saying she did NOT make any improvement at all in the schools.

Posted by: educationlover54 | September 23, 2010 8:13 PM | Report abuse

Michelle! Tell Vinny Gray to kiss you arse, baby!!!

Posted by: demtse | September 23, 2010 8:15 PM | Report abuse

your chancellor body language tells the story,she is not going to stay. She is sort thur her options with a upcoming marriage and figuring out what is next.

Posted by: annettecovington35 | September 23, 2010 8:16 PM | Report abuse

It is clear from the video that Rhee is visibly agitated and does appear to be teary eyed.

She is an adult bully who regularly shouts at principals during her one on one meetings with them in a demeaning way, demanding that they bring up test scores or else.

She does not know how to handle it when someone else is in a position of power over her who doesn't believe that she is superman.

Rhee can't handle it due to her extreme rigidity and my way or the highway attitude.

Posted by: letsbereal2 | September 23, 2010 8:26 PM | Report abuse

Apparently Gray and his constituents prefer low expectations and under achievement.

Posted by: jryan758 | September 23, 2010 8:28 PM | Report abuse

According to one site, when a Montgomery County school official was asked if Rhee was being considered as a placement for its outgoing school superintendent, he didn't seem too excited about the idea ... to put it mildly.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | September 23, 2010 8:31 PM | Report abuse

I've never really understood the vicious criticisms against Rhee by people in DC. It seems that they all basically boil down to name calling and personal attacks. Everyone wants to slam Rhee personally, call her a dictator and call her husband a child molester or whatever, but nobody has anything to say about the substance of what actually happened to the kids in DC during her chancellorship.

If you point out that during her 3-year tenure reading proficiency scores increased by 14 percent and math proficiency scores increased by 17 percent, people start shouting that "test scores don't matter, you measure quality by other things." If you don't measure quality by test scores, then what DO you measure quality by? By how many failing schools stay open? By how many incompetent teachers get to keep their jobs? By what the teacher's union says? If my child can't read basic texts or perform simple arithmetic, it doesn't matter what the teacher's union says about what should or shouldn't matter, it matters how my child is performing and what her future is going to be.

Posted by: davejohnson1 | September 23, 2010 8:39 PM | Report abuse

Rhee is the best thing to happen to the DCPS in 40 years. Gray would be a fool to send her away, and the city would be hard-pressed to find Chancellor as effective as she has proven.

Posted by: tkoho | September 23, 2010 8:42 PM | Report abuse

Mayor Elect Gray - You certainly exhibit the behavior of a complete idiot. The DC school system was becoming a place where we wanted to enroll our children. Couldn't you see past the Teachers Union's vendetta to recognize that you had the Change Agent that DC Schools has needed for decades with Michelle Rhee? After watching this video, we are now going to remove our children from DC schools once and for all.

Hey DC - We had our One Shining Moment. It appears that we can look forward to a big backwards step to Marion Barry style government with Vincent Gray. My only question is: Who in DC Government is Vincent Gray out to intimidate into submission next?

Posted by: pacelines1 | September 23, 2010 8:42 PM | Report abuse

Hmmmmm.... I smell toast. Burned, bitter toast.

Posted by: JohnBrown08 | September 23, 2010 8:42 PM | Report abuse

mwalsh3a wrote:
“If Gray's first move is to force out Rhee, the City of Newark is waiting for her with open arms.”

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@mwalsh3a – yes, she could go to Newark and do just what she did here, follow Clifford Janey’s plan that is already in place. Instead of insulting our intelligence, dispense with the propaganda.

The desire to see Rhee go does not translate into not caring about the kids. We may simply prefer a superintendent with the requisite credentials and experience to lead the school system.

Rhee is nothing more than a charlatan who figured out how to parlay three lousy years of teaching experience into a six-figure income. We had more sense than you, we recognized that Rhee sold us a bill of goods. The only results she delivered were conflict of interest (firing experienced educators so she could place her TFA neophytes in jobs) and manipulated test scores and dropout statistics. For all her efforts, she still did not get the budget right.

For all intents and purposes, we may as well have let L. Ron Hubbard serve as chancellor and let him bring in his brand of sycophants.

Posted by: sheridaw | September 23, 2010 8:46 PM | Report abuse

davejohnson1 says, "during [Rhee's] 3-year tenure reading proficiency scores increased by 14 percent and math proficiency scores increased by 17 percent, people start shouting that "test scores don't matter"

No - people start shouting -"Where did you get those Statistics?"

Please, provide the link.

Posted by: efavorite | September 23, 2010 8:54 PM | Report abuse

I would like to add this to my comments. As you know, many these student may have problems which teachers do not have time to address. There should be a program called Grandparents Time. There should be several sets of Grandparents in the schools at all times for those students who need that closeness, communication and huggs. There should be little rooms with a couch and chairs to have a quite time with their adopted grandparent. There also should be cats and dogs in special rooms for those that cannot communicate at this time but need someone close to them (they are using this program with returning service men). This may save them later from problems now and in the future. I had a teacher who took that time so I can speak on this first hand, I suffer from PTS and this two project help me greatly. These two project are not clostly but they can help many students, which is something we adults may not be able to do. Animals and Grandparents offer unconditional love.

Peace

The Mayor should consider a student project of sponsoring four Golden Corel restrant and the first one should be at 4th and Rhode Island Avenue NE at the old Safeway. This is on the RI Avenue line where seniors can easily travel and get a wholesome meal for $7.00. Also, Howard, Cath. U., Maryland U. and retires in the area. It has parking and transportation and everyone will gain.

Posted by: manningf9 | September 23, 2010 8:57 PM | Report abuse

LOL, shaken and teary eyed? Have people resorted to TMZ-like reporting by making stuff up to be sensationalistic? She does appear to be completely disinterested, I think this was a dog and pony show for both Rhee and Gray. She doesn't want to stay and he doesn't want her.

Posted by: minhle1 | September 23, 2010 8:59 PM | Report abuse

I would like to add this to my comments. As you know, many these student may have problems which teachers do not have time to address. There should be a program called Grandparents Time. There should be several sets of Grandparents in the schools at all times for those students who need that closeness, communication and huggs. There should be little rooms with a couch and chairs to have a quite time with their adopted grandparent. There also should be cats and dogs in special rooms for those that cannot communicate at this time but need someone close to them (they are using this program with returning service men). This may save them later from problems now and in the future. I had a teacher who took that time so I can speak on this first hand, I suffer from PTS and this two project help me greatly. These two project are not clostly but they can help many students, which is something we adults may not be able to do. Animals and Grandparents offer unconditional love.

Peace

The Mayor should consider a student project of sponsoring four Golden Corel restrant and the first one should be at 4th and Rhode Island Avenue NE at the old Safeway. This is on the RI Avenue line where seniors can easily travel and get a wholesome meal for $7.00. Also, Howard, Cath. U., Maryland U. and retires in the area. It has parking and transportation and everyone will gain.

Posted by: manningf9 | September 23, 2010 9:02 PM | Report abuse


It's a mistake to overturn educational improvement for politics. But such is today's reality.

If the new DC mayor wants to reestablish disorder, dysfunction and digression into the DC school system, it's his choice.

Chicago would be very wise to take advantage of DC's backward thinking and actively seek Dr. Rhee for Chicago's public schools.

Posted by: chicago77 | September 23, 2010 9:03 PM | Report abuse

"WASHINGTON, DC (WUSA) -- DC School Chancellor Michelle Rhee hasn't ruled out staying on in a Gray administration. That word from her future husband, Sacramento Mayor Kevin Johnson."
____________

What arrogance. The idea that it's HER call, not Mayor Gray's, whether she will remain as Chancellor. Mayor Gray, on November 3, just remember to have her turn in her ID card and stapler. Rhee can keep the masking tape.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | September 23, 2010 9:04 PM | Report abuse

THIS IS VERY SIMPLE -- Rhee and Gray will not get along. But they were trying to figure out how to make it to November together. It is like a couple that is seperated but not divorced yet.
That's ALL the meeting was about, and that is why they BOTH looked uncomfortable after the meeting. Gray (who is not officially mayor yet) was just as uncomfortable as Rhee was.

Posted by: john_boffa | September 23, 2010 9:05 PM | Report abuse

DC residents haven't cared about the DCPS for 3 decades, all of sudden everyone has standards for credentials and performance? What a bunch of self-serving double-talkers.

Posted by: minhle1 | September 23, 2010 9:06 PM | Report abuse

To everyone who wonders if Gray will "undo" a lot of what Rhee has done: I certainly hope so! I hope he undoes the falling test scores this past spring. I hope he undoes the increase in the achievement gap under Rhee. I hope he undoes a seriously flawed evaluation system which for which there is no data to prove it actually distinguishes effective from ineffective teachers. I hope he undoes the culture of fear and intimidation which Rhee has brought into DCPS. I hope he undoes the autocratic style of governing DC and DCPS and re-inserts democracy into both.

Give it a few months after Rhee has left and Gray takes office. Much more truth will come out and Rhee will not be the "darling" of the Post any longer and they will begin to actually report the damage she inflicted on the children and those who work in DCPS.

Contrary to popular belief, we who teach in DCPS want reform--real reform. Not the slash and burn and intimidation tactics Rhee brought into the system. Did she fire a few poor teachers, yes! Was the system rife with incompetent teachers? Hardly. Most if not all non-certified teachers were dismissed under Janey.

All Rhee did was run a very good and very biased PR campaign and made national news by turning things upside down. Problem is that she didn't know how to turn things right-side up.

She was never qualified nor had the skills to manage a bureaucracy effectively. She also does not possess the people skills to manage people or work with the public.

DCPS will be better off without her and I believe Gray will turn out to be much better than people expect him to be.

Rhee is NOT the only person in the world who can run DCPS. In fact, she's effectively proven that she is definitely one who could NOT run DCPS.

Posted by: UrbanDweller | September 23, 2010 9:08 PM | Report abuse

I think she just needed to use a restroom. I fidget like that when I have to go but have to wait a few minutes.

Posted by: Bitter_Bill | September 23, 2010 9:09 PM | Report abuse

The only impartial judgment on the progress of DC schools under Chancellor Rhee was rendered by the Obama administration when they awarded $75 million to DC because of the quality of its proposal for reforming the school system. It wasn't just the proposal, however, but the knowledge that Michelle Rhee and Adrian Fenty had the spine to actually implement their plans that brought all that money to DC when it was so desperately needed. All the rest of the comments here are pure partisan politics and unworthy of the importance of the job that has to be done to give our kids a quality education.

The teachers union, and its members have no credibility. They stood in the way of true reform for decades, and still do. If they hadn't we wouldn't have needed Michelle Rhee. They brought what happened to them on themselves. She faced down the union and outsmarted the City Council, which was stunned when they cut the DC school budget only to have Rhee turn the tables on them and use their own tactic to accomplish her objective of getting rid of teachers who were taking off whenever they felt like it and were sending in substitutes to play videos for the kids. That is one tough lady and our kids were lucky to have her on their side against the unions and voters who care more about being disrespected than they do about what the Obama administration clearly regards as quality education for their own kids. If you had a kid in High School, you know this was happening. If you wandered the halls of Cardozo before Rhee, you saw the chaos and disrespect for education. The kids deserved better, and they were finally starting to get it under Rhee.

I have nothing but good wishes for Mr. Gray. I hold no hard feelings against him. He did what he had to do to get elected. I wish him and the citizens of all parts of my city good luck in their efforts to provide a quality education for our kids. I hope DC gets another grant from the federal government next year, but I don't honestly believe it will without Michelle Rhee. Look how many other cities and states got nothing. Unfortunately, without Michelle Rhee, Mr. Gray will need all the luck he can get against the teachers union, because she has proven that only she is capable of raising the private funds that were pledged to pay the teachers' salaries under the new contract, and without that, the unions will likely renege, and more stalling on reform will be the result.

I sincerely hope I'm wrong, and Mr. Gray demonstrates that he not only cares about harmony, but also about keeping up the reform that the Obama administration so recently praised the city for and that he demonstrates it by winning another $75 million for the schools next year. To do that he's going to have to show some backbone. Let's hope he does, for the good of the kids.

Posted by: Cyrano2 | September 23, 2010 9:11 PM | Report abuse

They had a philosophical discussion of the type of sex act she needed to perform on him to keep her job...

She looked grim when she realized he didn't like whips and chains.

Posted by: rpcv84 | September 23, 2010 9:11 PM | Report abuse

DCPS is a poorly run, underperforming school system, with or without rhee. don't kid yourself, most people would avoid sending their kids to DCPS if given the choice. But keep on with your delusion that it's all good.

Posted by: minhle1 | September 23, 2010 9:11 PM | Report abuse

If Newark, Chicago, and these other cities were begging Rhee to lead their school systems, as some posters suggest, her "future husband" wouldn't have been publicly lobbying today to have her remain in DC.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | September 23, 2010 9:12 PM | Report abuse

Good point on the funding...Gray has to give the impression that he's not going to reverse the direction so that he doesn't lose the $$$ that will get spread around. $15K per student is a lot of money to share.

Posted by: minhle1 | September 23, 2010 9:14 PM | Report abuse

The average score for D.C. students -- including public, private and charter schools -- SHOT UP 26 points to 1,404 out of 2,400 from 1,378 in 2009.

Despite the significant GAIN, scores still fell BELOW the 1,509 national average, which didn't budge from last year.

Prince George’s County students scored an average of 1,296 out of a possible 2,400, putting them 201 points BEHIND the statewide average of 1,497.

The average PG county score is UP from last year, when the county averaged 1,283; the statewide average last year was 1,480 or 197 points behind the state wide average.

So, let's see what happens over the next few years under Gray. My guess? Those test scores will DROP, again.

Then, of course, the Finger Pointing will be at everybody EXCEPT at Gray and EXCEPT at the D.C. Teachers Union.

Interestingly, even though income levels are HIGHER in PG County than in D.C., SAT performance was LOWER.

My take? African American students have serious and chronic, scholastic achievement problems. Not exactly 'new' news.

Regardless of income, their Academic Performance is not near the BOTTOM, but AT THE BOTTOM when you rank by ethnicity.

Posted by: leochen24551 | September 23, 2010 9:16 PM | Report abuse

"The only impartial judgment on the progress of DC schools under ....

[Rhee-diculous statements omitted]

Posted by: Cyrano2 | September 23, 2010 9:11 PM"
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The Fenty Adminstration was soundly Rhee-jected. If Rhee is still here on November 3, this city will erupt like Mt. Vesuvius. Rhee was one of the top three reasons Fenty lost. Mayor Gray doesn't seem the type who would betray his thousands of supporters by keeping Rhee.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | September 23, 2010 9:22 PM | Report abuse

He (Gray) did the right thing. Until he is officially elected Mayor, he does not have the authority or right to dismiss her - yet. However, she badly overplayed her hand.

How could you expect to work for the person that you are on record overtly rooting against? Anyone who is a manager knows how that wouldn't work out. You cannot have someone who is/has been so opposed to you and your managerial approach on your team.

And to those who contend (without any proof whatsoever) that the District and the school system will now be on its way to hell, I think that is quite insulting and pandering. Funny, when the Tea party voted out a popular moderate with years of experience (Mike Castle - Del.) and replaced him with a true no-nothing with no governing experience whatsoever, it was the will of the people speaking.

I guess the same doesn't hold true for the voters of DC. In addition, who actually thinks that there is only one person (Ms. Rhee) in this area or nation that can improve the District school system? Since when did she, or anyone for that matter, become so indespensible?

A true reformer puts in concrete steps/procedures that can be followed and will have lasting a effect long after they are gone. Also, a true reforming change agent understands that wherever they go and implement change, their tenure is going to be short-lived. That is the nature of a true change agent. You implement serious and impactful change, over much dissent/disagreement, and expect to be villified for it.

If she (Rhee) is a true change/reform agent, she will ensure that she has instituted real reform and move on without all the drama. She hitched her wagon to the losing horse, we all know how it will end.

Ms. Rhee - you've made your mark - for better or worse - now just bid all adieu and be gone. As you have stated several times previously, you'll be fine.

Posted by: raines04 | September 23, 2010 9:33 PM | Report abuse

Great, no better than Great, FABULOUS video link!!! I've been waiting 3.5 years for karma to bite this WITCH in the fanny! Thank you Kaplan Post for fulfilling one of my deepest desires!

Posted by: bob_dylan_rocks | September 23, 2010 9:42 PM | Report abuse

The real problem here is that too many people conflate the person with the mission.

Michelle Rhee has done great things for DC public schools. However, she is not the only person who cares about the children, nor is she the only one with good ideas.

Her gut reaction - that the election was bad for kids - revealed the stunning hubris that is at her very core. I hope she steps aside soon, just to prove to our children that such unbridled arrogance has consequences.

What DC desperately needs is reform that's TRULY about the children. In spite of her good ideas, Rhee failed to deliver on that. All of her reforms were really about proving that she is better than everyone else.

Posted by: mdennis74 | September 23, 2010 9:50 PM | Report abuse

Life is not always fair, is it Chancellor? I hope Vncent Gray finds someone with talent and an educational vision, that is not in lockstep with slash and burn "reform." There are many sound ideas floating around ,so why is Arne Duncan and Co. the only game in town.? Hopefully Gray will see beyond this, because the parents down in DC certanly did. Managers and tyrants have replaced edcuators, and herein lies the problem

Posted by: Onpoint3 | September 23, 2010 9:59 PM | Report abuse

It is quite apparent from the video that Gray had instructed Rhee that she was not to talk. That did not sit well with her, he demeanor made clear that she was upset with that instruction but she obeyed it. she will have to decide if she wants to stay on Gray's terms, which may well include being less visible.

Is she out for her own reputation or is she in it for the kids? We are about to find out.

Posted by: DCUSince96 | September 23, 2010 10:17 PM | Report abuse

Having been a product of District schools, having friends who are teaching in the DC schools and surrounding districts; I find many of the comments on here appalling. Very few are cognizant of the state of DC schools and staff. Most are only into the political drama of a Rhee v. Gray confrontation and who "won."

One of my HS classmates teaches at a DC high school. 12 years ago I asked him to come to one of the suburban districts. His comment was that if he left who would look after the kids, there were not many good teachers and he felt if he left there would not be many qualified to help his kids.

If you go to a university producing qualified teachers, few want to go to the DC schools. The students who I know who have student taught there do not want to seek permanent jobs there. Oh yes, you can get some Teach for America kids who will only give you 2 years in most cases, after that many burn out from the lack of good administration, discipline support, and safety.

DC schools hired Dr. Paul Vance, a competent administrator, he just threw up his hands and said he did not want to deal with it any more. His staff recommended closing and consolidating schools and resources. He was stymied at every turn. At least Ms. Rhee accomplished some of the things Dr. Vance tried to do.

DC children deserve the best schools, teachers and administrators. They need every advantage to compensate for the terrible administrators, teachers, and politicians who look out for the needs of the teachers and not the needs of the students. (Perhaps it is because most students can't vote or raise money.)

Until DC schools demand high achievement from its students, they will not turn it around. Until DC schools demand administrators and teachers look out of the interest of the students first, they will not turn it around, Until the population of DC demand that the politicians hold administrators and teachers accountable for the success of DC students, they will not turn it around. Until the population of DC holds itself responsible for the state of DC schools, they will not turn it around.

Ms. Rhee may have made many missteps in her presentation and relational skills, but you may not fault her for holding people accountable and improving the measurable achievements of her students. It may be her lack of relational skills that will cause her to leave her position here voluntarily or involuntarily, but she is accountable to help people understand that her vision for the accomplishment of the children is something they want. Having been near the DC schools since the 1960s, I will give her credit for pushing through some things that should have been done since the 70s, they were long overdue. She has been a good leader in that respect, but it is a shame her political skills were not as good as her administrative skills.

Posted by: skyr2 | September 23, 2010 10:22 PM | Report abuse

She put her eggs in Fenty's basket, and he dropped them.

Posted by: Special_One40 | September 23, 2010 11:01 PM | Report abuse

`She looks properly chastened. And more than likely pissed off at the very uncomfortable position she finds herself. If she was near tears it was tears of anger, never regret - she isn't capable of but so many emotions and only feels for herself.

Posted by: 2belinda | September 23, 2010 11:36 PM | Report abuse

Rhee is unfit to hold any leadership position. She behaved as a tyrant because she had protection from her apologists who are on a mission to destroy public education: Gates, Fenty, Duncan, Booker, Wall Street, DFER, hedge fund managers, Bloomberg, Klein, etc.

It’s interesting, TFA Rhee-reformers are not defending her lack of common sense in taping children’s mouths shut with masking tape and laughing about their bleeding lips.

She abused children in Baltimore. She should have been sued by parents and fired by Baltimore. Where’s the accountability for Rhee?

The apologists always work to cover-up the facts and their conflicts of interest. Rhee must go with a pink slip in her hand!

Thank you DC voters!!!

Posted by: nfsbrrpkk | September 24, 2010 12:14 AM | Report abuse

What about people who have been so mistreated and denied fairness and justice that the tears have been long exhausted and, like a dream deferred, what remains is a battle to contain rage, vicoral, deep rage.
Michelle Rhee should resign. If she feels an election is a time to cry, she knows nothing about freedom and fairness or justice. Due process must be afforded every tenured teacher before they are fired, according to the highest court in the land, The United States Supreme Court. Michelle Rhee (and in NYC Joel Klein) disregarded this law and ruined YES RUINED people's lives and their families!!!!! When you lose your home, you cry! When you don't have money for your kids' birthday you cry! When you get your phone disconnected for lack of payment you cry! When you cannot visit your doctor or afford medication, YOU CRY!

As Bob Dylan sang, "Take the rag away from your face, now ain't the time for your tears!"

Posted by: Nicnamibia | September 24, 2010 12:35 AM | Report abuse

Gray is just trying to get elected and that is all he cares about, and not telling the voters what he plans on doing with the school system in the future. Wash. Post and other publications have said Gray should keep Rhee to continue the work on the DC public schools. One-half of the city wards did not vote in the primary for Gray so Gray will keep it a secret how he sees the school system running in the future. Rhee is under contract for 2 more years I think, and Gray has forced her to be silent until Nov. 2nd. Gray is a vicious, controlling mean-spirited person but the public should demand an answer on how he will run the school system BEFORE the Nov. 2 election.

Posted by: voter20 | September 24, 2010 7:03 AM | Report abuse

To all the Rheeformers and Republicans posting on this blog--GET OVER IT.

You keep harping on the LIE Rhee fired incompetent teachers when according to her she FIRED THE TEACHERS DUE TO BUDGET CUTS. Was Rhee LYING? When Rhee is gone the truth of these firing will come out. You supporters of this lying mean woman is amazing. You SUPPORT A KNOWN LIAR AND CALLED THE CITIZENS OF DC IGORANT.

Republicans are glad to see this mess continue because they think it will give them a foot hold in DC. Citizens do not fall for this Tea Party tactic. Notice how the keep race baiting in their comments. They are eager to get an opportunity to spew their racial hate and it has nothing to do with Rhee, Reform, or the Children of DC. It is an opportunity to attack BLACKS under an assumed name on a national blog. They will brush off the stink and report to a DC government job in the AM and many will report to a DC classroom to teach the children they so love.

GO with Rhee and take your hate with you.

Posted by: dccounselor72 | September 24, 2010 9:15 AM | Report abuse

Voter20 if that's true then he is just like your boy fenty...how do I know well read what happen back in 2006

"Fenty selected Rhee after conducting a secret search, repeatedly saying publicly that he had made no decisions and was considering keeping Janey. In the interview, Fenty said he considered a list of about 30 names during the past two months, including Miami-Dade County Superintendent Rudolph F. Crew. Fenty consulted few, if any, local leaders and parents but sought advice from New York City School Chancellor Joel I. Klein and national education experts."

So it's ok for Fenty to do this? Why?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/11/AR2007061102383.html

Posted by: thelildiva4u | September 24, 2010 9:50 AM | Report abuse

Dept of Edu reviewer comments from the first RTTT round of funding:

"the panel says a closer look the data "show mixed results and continuing and sizeable achievement gaps." The District earned 21.6 out of 30 points in this area. Officials raise the question of whether the gains reflect an initial shock of reform that will fade over time, or something more permanent:

"The number of points awarded to this section is due to the concern that the quick gains may be the result of the newly imposed expectations rather than proven instructional practices that will need to be sustained over time. The District would need to analyze the achievement data and explore the connections between the data and the sustainable actions that have contributed to sudden academic gains to determine if the projected goals are fully attainable."

Finally, the District's application took a hit for its tone and approach in the section entitled "Great Teachers and Leaders." Overall, it garnered 111.8 of a possible 138 points. Reviewers took exception to the District's assertion that a Race to the Top grant would be a vindication in light of the political resistance to some of Rhee's personnel moves, and would position DC "to ensure that its cutting edge human capital work can be accelerated and become a national model for innovative human capital."

Reviewers questioned whether the District was more interested in showcasing its "speed in achieving results and to become a national model" or in committing to the "detail and attention needed to build the capacity of staff to become great teachers and leaders."

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcschools/2010/03/feds_poke_holes_in_district_rt.html

Posted by: thelildiva4u | September 24, 2010 10:33 AM | Report abuse

Rhee’s lack of support for Mr. Gray was evident again during the press conference. She failed to stand next to OUR next mayor or offer her support of our mayor.

Gray should have announced that the incompetent Chancellor Rhee and her "experiment" is over and he has accepted her resignation.

Chancellor Rhee is incompetent and she end up as one the most polarizing figures in our city. She had no vision, just a narrow goal of improving test scores. Rhee’s legacy will be known for firing, threatening and intimidating principals, teachers and staff members.

Only 15 schools in the District of Columbia this year met the annual goals of No Child Left Behind, down from 54 in 2009.

She brought nothing new to the education table except those TFA’s and those NEW LEADERS. Both groups were inexperienced and not qualified for urban education. We the parents have spoken and this Rhee’s experiment is over. Rhee has no future in DC.

Posted by: hello101 | September 24, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

..the biggest mistake Fenty/Rhee made was not realizing that when they ended the patronage game in DC it wouldn't come roiling back at them - so many commentators think Rhee NEEDS DC - she is wealthy, accomplished and engaged to a multi-millionare; in addition her New Teachers Project has hired nearly 40 thousand teachers all over america - if she quit working in education altogether she STILL will have done more for students in america's public schools than Gray and the whole DC government and it's broken down school system altogether - all she and fenty did was SAY what everyone knew - the DC's school system was a WRECK, filled with teachers who didn't care if their charges learned to read as long as they got tenure - Rhee will be hired in a SECOND the minute she resigns from DC by another governmental body which hopefully has the guts to fight for the kids, like the thousands the DC school system has FAILED for the last several decades...

Posted by: paulserrano | September 24, 2010 7:11 PM | Report abuse

Paul Serrano - I don't recall any anti-Rhee commenters suggesting that Rhee needs DC or that she will find it hard to get another job. People want her out now - and she herself has made it very clear that she wanted out if Fenty were not reelected.

I do know that many Rhee supporters have pointed out that Rhee's employment prospects are bright. I agree and look forward to the time when she picks one and leaves.

Posted by: efavorite | September 25, 2010 7:42 AM | Report abuse

It's great that voters sent her a strong message of NO CONFIDENCE, great that she's leaving, although just wait, they will spin it with "IF only"... If only Rhee had been able to see her reforms thru, if only her wonderful innovations hadnt been prevented from coming to fruition... If only (sigh!)

Although I honestly cant wish her on any school system, if she were to stay on a few more years, we would then be able to say: she came, she conquered, she failed... big time.

The way she's leaving, she will still be able to puff up and puff on the hype around her... it's based on nothing concrete, thus far, but that seems to be enough to get your Arent-I-Spectacular show up and running, in these insane times in the world of education.

Special thanks to Obama for that... I knew he wasnt that good, just didnt realize he would be this bad. He loves Rhee and all the rightwing education "reforms" she loves... called her "wonderful."

If anyone wants to find that elusive "bipartisanship," some moan is missing, look no further than our current rightwing education policies - that this President and all his go-along Dems have glommed onto...

Oh, and let's not forget sell out teachers' union heads, like Randi Weingarten. I honestly dont know why anti-teachers' union types dont throw her a party... over on the dark side, where she has joined them.

Posted by: NYCee | September 25, 2010 11:13 AM | Report abuse

mwcob- what you've overlooked is that much of that money goes to pay for transportation and tuition for spec. ed. students and their advocates. Its not all going to the schools and certainly not a few ghost teachers.

Posted by: 39aka94 | September 27, 2010 2:24 PM | Report abuse

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