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Area Hoops Top 11

And feel free to offer your thoughts. And I know I'll hear from people who don't believe some of these schools are in this area. Talk to circulation.

Actually, I wouldn't mind making this an actual poll, if I could somehow find objective voters to help me vote. I'll bug some journalist types. Anyone out there want to volunteer? Maybe I could take one non-objective but promising-to-try-to-be-objective representative from each local school.

1) Maryland (7-0). Terps are off to their best start since 1998-'99. "This team is for real," says Gary Parrish. Let's see what happens tomorrow at Illinois.

2. Virginia (4-0). Wins over Morgan State and UMES have Cavs poised for preseason MEAC title. And are people really calling the new arena "The Jack?"

3. Georgetown (3-1). Now now, I'm just saying, if you had to vote right now, given typical top 25 voting patterns and a limited pool of eligible teams, and if you excluded preseason hype, you'd probably put Georgetown third, even if you think they might wind up higher. Tonight's opponent, Ball State, has made five of its last 58 three-point attempts and is playing for the fifth time in eight days. Betcha Georgetown wins. Read Camille Powell's nice story about the coaching matchup, Thompson vs. Thompson.

4. Old Dominion (5-1). Do we cover them? No. But excluding George Mason, the Monarchs have been Virginia's most successful team. Plus, an ODU alum used the phrase "nutted up" in a letter to the G'town student newspaper, and congratulated the Hoyas for staying within 13 points of ODU, "even in your poor excuse for a high school gym." That's worth at least one week in these parts.

5. GW (4-1), I guess. Master motivator Karl Hobbs has now taken to motivating the opponents. Interior D might be an issue; "they manhandled us," Hobbs said after the game. On the positive side, how many schools have former superstars posting on their message board?

6. George Mason (2-2), I guess. Although the Missouri Valley title is pretty much out of the question after those two losses to Wichita State and Creighton. Sammy Hernandez is transferring. Most importantly, read this story about Sean Ogirri, which gives lots of Fro and sneaker info and extensively quotes crazed hoops fan and Bog friend OffTheMeter.

7. VMI (3-4). Ok, the record's not great. And the Keydets just lost to Howard, which won't help the RPI much. But c'mon, they're averaging 105.6 points per game! The selection committee loves that! I'm sure of it.

8. Virginia Tech (3-2). Supposedly improved Hokies finished sixth in Old Spice Classic, losing to MAC and MVC schools and earning a case of Musk-flavored deodorant. Coach Seth Greenberg said it was a great experience, "excluding the games." Will face No. 5 GW on Sunday in a game the pollsters will watch very carefully.

9. Navy (4-2). 0-2 against the Big East, undefeated against the rest of the country.

10. American (3-2). 0-2 against the A-10, undefeated against the rest of the country.

11. Howard (2-3). Shot 70 percent from the field in win over VMI. But still couldn't catch them in the polls. Incidentally, Bison's 2-3 mark is good for second-best in the MEAC.

By Dan Steinberg  |  November 27, 2006; 12:22 PM ET
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Comments

UVA did beat Arizona (again) but Mamadi Diane is a traitor.

Posted by: Unsilent Majority | November 27, 2006 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Dan,

Great idea, but where do you draw the line on who is in the poll? ODU is good and did beat Georgetown, but aren't the Baltimore schools closer? We are told the Orioles are a local team (see circulation) and Rudy Gay can win WASHINGTON Post High School Player of the Year when he played for a BALTIMORE school (see circulation). Do you include Towson, Loyola, Coppin St, Morgan St and UMBC? What about UMES?

Posted by: Mike | November 27, 2006 12:58 PM | Report abuse

excellent idea. how about including a bit in each blurb about key wins, key losses, and key upcoming games? you've done that a bit already, and it makes it easier to keep track (how many readers can discuss the details of ODU's nonconference schedule?) of everything.

you know, something like this only helps to expose how sucky it is that these teams hardly ever play each other.

Posted by: bryc3 | November 27, 2006 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Coppin State should be in the rankings because Fang's team plays the toughest non-conference schedule in the nation year in and year out. That is not opinion. That is fact!!

Posted by: Chad | November 27, 2006 2:06 PM | Report abuse

As a Georgetown alum, if you're including ODU, you've at least got to put them in front of the Hoyas at #3, especially if you are giving them extra credit for that letter. I expect the Hoyas to be very good by the end of the season, but they are definately not there yet.

Posted by: Chris | November 27, 2006 2:19 PM | Report abuse

If ODU is going to count as a local team then I vote for including Richmond, JMU, and VCU as well. ODU hammered UR (over the last 14 minutes anyway), but the Spiders did beat American. VCU is always a solid CAA team but I think JMU sucks again this year. Maybe their horrible AD should cut the program and it pretend it was Title IX related.

Maybe you could make it the top ten teams in Virginia, Marlyand and DC? That way you don't have to put everybody in but you don't have a geographical war on your hands every week.

Posted by: Jon | November 27, 2006 2:42 PM | Report abuse

1. Maryland. Why? Boom. Oh, and they do look good.
2. ODU. Why? Honestly, all because of that letter.
3. UVA. Why? Guards.

Posted by: Chest Rockwell | November 27, 2006 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Please don't ever rank Navy ahead of American again. AU will beat Navy by 20 on Jan. 24.

Posted by: Aghast | November 27, 2006 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Umm, how about Richmond? And maybe Towson can get some love?

Posted by: The lovechild of Chris Mooney and Pat Kennedy | November 27, 2006 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Putting Navy over American, a little bit silly.

Posted by: ES | November 27, 2006 8:30 PM | Report abuse

I'm probably your lone reader from West Virginia (though it's only 60 miles from DC) but why not include WVU (5-1)? ;)

Posted by: Dave | November 27, 2006 9:28 PM | Report abuse

Mad props to Hoya Talk for publishing the ODU Alum letter. I only hope that a local Oregon Alum can match that writer's admixture of obnoxiousness and wit.

Posted by: Dootie Bubble | November 30, 2006 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps this may be the most press GW gets all year? I guess actually being in DC proper has no bearing on the amount of coverage for a paper called the Washington Post. Perhaps if we handed you some booster money under the table...
We've got clear issues in our frontcourt that need to be addressed in order for us to climb your ladder Dan.
Still, I think we take it VTech and UMES en route to a showdown with USC.

Posted by: Levinator | November 30, 2006 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Whoa, Dootie Bubble AND Levinator? On my humble little blog? Where the hell are Mailvan and LFO and Blue Seats? And would Mentinzger get all irritated if I quoted him verbatim?

In response to Levinator's question, the local hoops landscape is a lot more crowded than it was last year. Not GW's fault, but unmistakably true. We can't ignore a Final Four team (Mason) that, frankly, we covered pretty modestly before last spring. So that's competition. And we can't ignore a top-ranked defending national champion women's team that draws pretty respectable crowds. People accuse us of being "bandwagon jumpers," which is a derogatory way of saying that we tend to cover teams that are doing well, since that tends to drive reader interest. So when the number of reporters is the same, and the amount of space is the same, but there are two more teams to cover, GW's coverage will suffer. And District lines don't really factor into that.

But you can make your voices heard in my Narrowly Defined Mid Atlantic Hoops Poll, if you'd like. And if GW keeps winning, they'll show up more frequently in the paper.

Posted by: Dan Steinberg | November 30, 2006 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Although I'm sure you already know this, I'd like to point out that our women's GW Colonials are ranked in the top #20 this young season with their only loss coming to that defending national champion team you dared speak of. Great tests against Tenn and UGA are on the horizon and we're counting on the powers that be to issue us some pre- and post-game love. Use the force Dan.
'cause you know as well as i do that a win against a top 10 is just about as good as it gets for a ladies squad, let alone the frightening notion of 2!
Further, the mere fact of propelling to that elite top 10 is such a well respected distinction that even Joe might have it in mind for this year's GW GALS. Let's see if this is finally our year to break into the elite.

ps- ok I can dream, but the fact remains that we do have a shot at two great teams! That is certainly newsworthy enough even for you bunch of "bandwagon jumpers"...lmao

Posted by: Levinator | November 30, 2006 10:48 PM | Report abuse

James Madison should be in the poll, the school does buys time on local radio (WMET) after all.

Posted by: Everett W. | December 1, 2006 3:19 PM | Report abuse

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