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Wizards Lose, Badly: I take one weekend off and utter mayhem ensues.

Maryland Wins, Impressively: If you can do such a thing against lousy Duke.

GW Women Notch 14th Straight: And incoming GW freshmen will pay more than 50 grand!!!!

Quote: "We're not in disarray. OK?" Gary Williams, last night. And it's fine by us.

By Dan Steinberg  |  February 12, 2007; 8:52 AM ET
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Oh god this is bad.

oh and Haywood needs to

Posted by: Unsilent Majority | February 12, 2007 8:59 AM | Report abuse

Haywood? Really? I mean, he's no Yao Ming. He's not even a Jermaine O'Neal. But how would giving Haywood the boot make the Wizards better? (Or maybe that's not why you say he needs to leave?)

Posted by: Josh | February 12, 2007 9:03 AM | Report abuse

Haywood needs to leave because he's a disgrace. At one point he fouled his man (i think it was lamarcus) and gave up the basket. On the ensuing free throw he just stood there, never even moved. Apparently he forgot it was a 1 free throw situation, obviously it led to another offensive rebound for Portland. Brendan Todd Haywood, you're done.

Oh and Jarvis might as well start packing as well. He calls for the ball for five seconds only to let the perfect pass go right between his hands. If you're a one dimentional jump shooter who can't crack 40% the least you could do is focus on the damn game. I think he and Jonas traded places this season.

Posted by: Unsilent Majority | February 12, 2007 9:12 AM | Report abuse

Oh man. I am increasingly terrified that Brandon "I have a great personality for a winning team" Lloyd Syndrome is starting to set in with the Wizards. Hopefully, a locker room that has - so far - been full of child like whimsy will hold together in the face of tough times.

Posted by: Dan Y. | February 12, 2007 9:23 AM | Report abuse

Maryland clearly, obviously, emphatically wanted it more this weekend. I'm a Duke fan and I found myself badly wishing this year's team had a guy like Vazquez... all energy. Duke got outclassed on Wednesday and outhustled on Sunday... what a week.

That said... I noticed the Comcast Center gets a bit... polite? when the ball's not actually going through the hoop for the Terps. You could hear a pin drop when Duke went on that run late in the first half.

Is it a function of the fact that the Com is no Cole... or that the rivalry's not quite Williams and Boozer vs. Dixon and Blake this year... or just that if Terps fans can't shout "f--k JJ" they don't know what to shout? It was definitely a quieter game yesterday and I'm intrigued to know.

Posted by: MDT | February 12, 2007 9:28 AM | Report abuse

Cole >>>>>>> Comcastle is one factor, but also with the way things have been going the past few years, I think that fans have become way too accustomed to the Terrapin Trademarked 4 minute scoreless spell. It just happens every game and I think to a lot of fans there is this quieting sense of dread, like "oh no, here we go again..."

Fortunately, we played the worst Duke team in years yesterday, so it wasn't a problem.

Posted by: Markus V. | February 12, 2007 9:36 AM | Report abuse

Ah, now I understand, UM. Well, yeah, BTH is a disgrace. Sadly, he's the least disgraceful option the Wizards have at center (well, usually, anyway). And yesterday, even Gil and Caron looked pretty disgraced. It was definitely that kind of game. I personally resorted to sarcastic clapping in the fourth quarter, which was sort of ungraceful on my own part...

But I totally agree that Jarvis should be packing up. Heck, I don't even care if he leaves town, just leaving the team would be good enough for me. I don't know what on earth Mike Wise is seeing in him that he thinks Hayes could still "ultimately be a very good player in this league". Seems like 90% of the possessions he takes part in end up wasted.

Posted by: Josh | February 12, 2007 9:46 AM | Report abuse

The Maryland-Duke "rivalry" is waning, just as the Terps' rivalry with N.C. State -- which, at its peak, was more intense, with far more on the line -- waned in the late seventies.

Posted by: Vincent | February 12, 2007 9:56 AM | Report abuse

Was at yesterday's Wiz game and it was a debacle. I had spent all morning working on getting my not quite two year-old to say, "Hibachi!" on cue. The effort was for naught as Agent Zero deficated in the bed for a paltry 9 points.

Posted by: KJ | February 12, 2007 9:57 AM | Report abuse

Mike Wise should be arrested for making a statement like that about Hayes. "Ultimately a very good player...?"

Is there really ANYTHING that people, much less Mike Wise, see in that guy?

As far as the Wizards go, I am very scared right now. Arenas throws EJ under the bus, who then tries to throw Arenas back under the bus, but then throws Grunfeld under the bus. Tenuous, tenuous indeed.

Arenas was wrong to make to make all those comments in public, even though he was right about EJ's philosophy of subbing players upon every mistake. 11 guys in the first quarter? Was that true? That's ridiculous.

I'm not supporting Arenas with what happened, but he also has a can you just expect this team to play defense all of a sudden? Just change their identity and start playing D? It won't work, especially with this group. Ruffin did a good job on Randolph, but really, it was 4 on 5 out there (3 on 5 with Hayes), which the Wizards can't do because that's not the type of team they are.

I think this is going to be a behind the scenes problem all year...we'll continue to win some games, maybe win a round in the playoffs, but I suspect at the end of the year we'll find out how bad it was. I hope that I am wrong though.

Posted by: AV | February 12, 2007 10:03 AM | Report abuse

I was at this game.

I've seen it before.

First, there's no way Gilbert was trying. It reminds me of the game where he petulantly refused to score after being encouraged to pass the ball more.

Second, Michael Ruffin's just getting back into it but he had some great plays.

Third, DeShawn was obviously trying.

Fourth, Butler was trying but he had a major morale problem. And he lives off of those quick passes and fast pace that Gilbert wasn't gonna do this game.

Coach Eddie was sandbagged and Gilbert's got to get his feed on the ground. Coach Eddie wasn't taking people out of the game for every defensive error: had he done that, the whole team would have been benched. I don't understand people who say the team was OK defensively. It seemed as if we couldn't have gotten a rebound if we got to stop time under the basket yesterday.

Caron's got it right: he loves the game of basketball and this was an embarrassment for lovers of the game.

Coach Eddie's wrong technically to say there wasn't enough talent there, but coach-wise it's a smooth mood. He's telling his team: it's yourselves you're embarrassing, not me. It's a good way to try to do the impossible and manage NBA players.

Posted by: Nancy | February 12, 2007 10:12 AM | Report abuse

Nothing about the Hoyas?
They still had the best win of the weekend. Sure it wasn't as big of an upset as the Maryland win, but it was against a better opponent than duke.

Posted by: Peter Keszler | February 12, 2007 10:20 AM | Report abuse

I had to leave after the steal and Dixon basket at the start of the fourth quarter. I just got tired of watching he and Jack hit layup after layup.

That being said, I'm convinced the team will be great in the second half of the season when they have Antawn, Ruffin, and Darius in the rotation.

I really wish we could trade Haywood and Jarvis for Zaza and Salim.

Posted by: Unsilent Majority | February 12, 2007 10:22 AM | Report abuse

Important Sports Results

I'm going to have to go with VIRGINIA TECH dominating UVa. UVa might as well have stayed on their bus.

And while the Comcast Center is no Cole, Maryland fans have changed over the past few years. I'll leave that at that.

Posted by: sitruc | February 12, 2007 10:24 AM | Report abuse

Ah, the Washington Times is back at it. Their lead sentence begins:

If it's true adversity helps build character . . .

"Adversity" -- let's use that word in every piece, shall we? Why, the entire game of basketball is built on adversity -- there is, after all, an opposing team. Makes life interesting.

You know, yesterday's game was interesting. The Post managed to find a way to get an interesting lead in their article. . . .

Post rocks. Times sucks.

Posted by: Nancy | February 12, 2007 10:26 AM | Report abuse

P.S. Anyone else nervous that Jamison's injury is always "three to six weeks," even as the weeks go by?

Posted by: Nancy | February 12, 2007 10:27 AM | Report abuse

I had to get another comment in:

Is it just me, or why does EJ insist on playing Taylor minutes in the 4th quarter of close games? Yet in a game like this in which we had no energy, he is nowhere to be found at all. I'm not trying to start up the anti-EJ bandwagon right here but seriously, its decisions like these that baffle me sometimes.

Posted by: AV | February 12, 2007 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Nancy, Antawn seems to think he'll be back sooner rather than later.

Posted by: Unsilent Majority | February 12, 2007 10:58 AM | Report abuse

Seriously, no Hoya coverage? National #23 beats #12 with authority? Over a hundred former Georgetown players show up, including National Sports Figures Paul Tagliabue and Patrick Ewing? Not even worth a link? This doesn't qualify as an Important Sports Result? I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume a big post is forthcoming....

Posted by: danj | February 12, 2007 11:05 AM | Report abuse

Donell Taylor played over five minutes - I believe all in the fourth quarter - yesterday. The times I've seen him play throughout this season, though, he hasn't showed anything to justify being on the court more than he is...

For what it's worth, there were ten players used in the first quarter yesterday. At 5:56 left in the first, Haywood and Blatche were replaced with Booth and Ruffin, presumably because BH and AB needed rest. Then, with 1:21 remaining in the first, Arenas, Stevenson, and Butler (the rest of the starters) were replaced by Daniels, Hayes, and Mason, presumably because they needed rest too, and maybe also because they had allowed Portland to build a 19-12 lead.

Any time you're curious about this kind of thing, btw, you can find the info on in the play-by-play. :-)

Posted by: Josh | February 12, 2007 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Gotta join with those who are commenting on the lack of props to the Hoyas.

Let's see...the Tweps beat a #16 team that has lost three straight. The #22 team beats #11 and snaps their eight game winning streak. And who gets mentioned and who gets ignored?

It's called news judgment and an absence of favoritism Steinberg. Try to get yourself at least vaguely acquainted with both concepts, please.

Posted by: Thin Man | February 12, 2007 11:20 AM | Report abuse

"And incoming GW freshmen will pay more than 50 grand!!!!"

In case anyone was wondering, going by Xavier's annihilation of GDub on Saturday...

Xavier 87 - $344 per student per point

GW 58 - $872 per student per point

What a waste of money

Posted by: Kev | February 12, 2007 11:38 AM | Report abuse

Hey Georgetown fans, for five months I've tried to keep my morning links focused on events of the previous day. I would blog on Sunday (and link to Saturday event stories) if the Post would pay me for it. But it's a bad time for the newspaper industry, so I'm stuck on five days a week. You'll note that the three items above were all Sunday events.

For the record, though, Georgetown is unbelievably awesome and makes me smile all day long, and all night too.

Posted by: Dan Steinberg | February 12, 2007 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Again Hoya fan over-reaction shames me. Obviously, other Saturday results were ignored as well, come on guys. The only part that would have been good would have something with some of the Hoyas that would have come, that would have been more along the lines of this blogs focus anyway.

Posted by: Chris | February 12, 2007 11:52 AM | Report abuse

i am sick of the georgetown whining, good lord people

there were plenty of more significant events in sports over the weekend then your game. maryland over duke, monarchs over rams, agent zero having an off day, the pro bowl, etc

lets not even get into the fact that with how bad the big east is this year the 2,3,4 teams in your conference would be lucky to hang with the 2,3,4 teams in the CAA and wouldnt even be in the top half of the ACC

if the selection committee is paying attention the big east will get two or three bids...max!!!

its time you just relized how insignificant your school and team is you just arent as good as you want to think

Posted by: Sick of the Whining | February 12, 2007 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Your so right, the Pro Bowl is waaaaaaaay more important.

To review: one Skin makes the Pro Bowl and a quarterback that doesn't play for us and wasn't even born her or go to school here gets hurt; a nationally ranked local team beats another team and that same nationally ranked team celebrates 100 years of its program. You're right. The Pro Bowl was way more important. What was I thinking?

The bottom line is that G'town doesn't get much respect and that's wrong. Gary Williams and the Twerps are discussed azd naseum in this blog. Gil Arenas farts and it gets reported here like its breaking news. This is bullsh*t plain and simple.

It it really whining to ask for basic respect and recognition of one's achievements on a par with other local programs?

I hate the Twerps, and I always will because I like the Big East better than the ACC, whether it's a good year or a bad one. If you want to hate Georgetown, that's cool. But at least be honest about it.

Posted by: Thin Man | February 12, 2007 12:07 PM | Report abuse

The Pro Bowl???? I hope that's just sarcasm. Neighborhood kids playing on my local street have more significance than the Pro Bowl. Seriously, just make the Pro Bowl a televised video game contest and be done with it.

Posted by: Everett W. | February 12, 2007 12:10 PM | Report abuse

Sick of the Whining:

Here's something new for you to try. KNow what you are talking about before you open your pie hole.

Hoyas insignificant? I guess that's why all the columnists on ESPN are citing Duke's defeat of Georgetown as one of their more important non-conference wins this year.

Other Big East teams? Pitt? Yeah, they suck. Marquette? Ditto. Vilanova? The three or four upsets they've had this year don't really mean a thing.

Thank God there are people like you to explain things to me!

Posted by: Hoya Fan | February 12, 2007 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like Thin Man woke up on the wrong side of the rock this morning.

But seriously, everyone just needs to calm way down (about the Wiz). The Lakers, the Spurs, and even the Blazers are tough teams to take on without Jamison. It's a long season, and hopefully the Wiz can take this stretch as a chance to work out their issues on D, leadership, and depth. If they can pick up the tempo against Philly going into the break (win or lose) then they'll fine when the season resumes, especially w/Songaila and Blatche slowly figuring out how to play in this league.

Posted by: Jablome | February 12, 2007 12:36 PM | Report abuse

I understand where the Georgetown people are coming from. They're a ranked team and they beat a higher ranked team this weekend. Meanwhile, the Maryland-Duke rivalry wasn't exactly a long rivalry that went back for years. It became more intense in recent years peaking with the Juan Dixon-Jason Williams match-ups. This years Duke team gets all the national exposure of a Duke team, but isn't any good. I call it the Notre Dame effect. Meanwhile, other area teams are doing good things such as Georgetown. Let's not forget the local #3 beat the local #2 in one of the regions bigger rivalries.

Posted by: sitruc | February 12, 2007 12:38 PM | Report abuse

Yes I'm glad steinberg cleared up the lack of hoya coverage.
The VT and Old Dominion wins also deserved recognition. but now we know why.

Posted by: Peter Keszler | February 12, 2007 12:41 PM | Report abuse

"if the selection committee is paying attention the big east will get two or three bids...max!!!"

There it is, the dumbest thing I've read all day. With six teams in the top 50 of the current RPI estimates I'd say 2-3 is just the moron in you speaking.

Posted by: Unsilent Majority | February 12, 2007 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Kev -

Are you are a sad sad sad person. Your only comments ever on this blog seem to be ripping on GW for some reason. Why this is fun for you, I am not entirely sure. And why you are obsessed with this particular school is slightly strange.

Posted by: JR | February 12, 2007 12:54 PM | Report abuse

looks like there is a bad case of the mondays going around.

Posted by: Marc | February 12, 2007 12:57 PM | Report abuse

I was at the Georgetown game on Saturday and the entire student section was chanting "Over-rated! Over-rated!" at the end of the game against Marquette towards their players and fans. This chant is used all the time by students and fans in college sports.

Does anyone besides me feel like this might be the stupidest chant of all time? As the game comes to an end - fans are chanting that the team they JUST BEAT is NOT good and is really "over-rated." It is not really a great way to hype up your win is it? Instead fans are essentially chanting that the team they just beat was average and the victory was nothing special.

That has always been something that has bothered me, especially in college basketball.

Posted by: Over-Rated! | February 12, 2007 1:04 PM | Report abuse

JR, or is it Danilo - I went to Xavier and it's a little humorous trash talk on a web site. I'm sad? Face it, GW is a laughing stock right now. The tuition hike is being mocked all over the country, you got spanked at home by the only respectable school in our sad conference and you're on a 3 game losing streak. Remember last year, your best season ever, when Xavier won the Atlantic 10?

Go back to playing Kennessaw St and UMES.

Posted by: Kev | February 12, 2007 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Want me to respect the Big East?

Then split it into two leagues -- one with the eight I-A football conference members, and the other with the remaining teams -- Providence, Seton Hall, Georgetown, Villanova, St. John's, Notre Dame, Marquette and DePaul. As it stands now, the Big East is a ridiculous hybrid.

And say what you will, but if the ACC announced it was eventually going to expand to 16 teams, schools like Syracuse, Pittsburgh, Rutgers and West Virginia would be knocking on its door in an instant.

Posted by: Vincent | February 12, 2007 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Vincent - re: the Big East potential split. It would make sense for the smaller non-BE football teams to merge together, but there is some trepidation amongst catholic university leaders about forming a league that would be all catholic league (ones you mention above). It's been talked about and I think they'd see it as a little too restricting to have schools that are all of a similar size and (essentially) the same religious affiliation.

Posted by: Kev | February 12, 2007 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Pitt has turned down roughly four offers to join the Big 10 over the years. I really doubt they'd jump ship for an overstuffed ACC.

You don't have to repsect the Big East (nobody cares) but to say that they're putting 3 teams maximum in the tournament is just stupid.

Posted by: Unsilent Majority | February 12, 2007 1:38 PM | Report abuse

"It's been talked about and I think they'd see it as a little too restricting to have schools that are all of a similar size and (essentially) the same religious affiliation."

That league already co-exists in Big East country: the MAAC.

Posted by: Anonymous | February 12, 2007 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Frankly, I'm happy to see the Wizards upset and fighting with each other. Maybe they understand how frustrated we are at their complete refusal to even consider playing defense. Maybe their pride has finally been hurt, and not a moment too soon. Winning teams don't take games off, and the Wizards have been guilty of that all season.

Posted by: bryc3 | February 12, 2007 1:45 PM | Report abuse

The Big East is so bloated in basketball, and unlike previous years it isn't very good as a whole. It is easy to get to .500 in a conference of 16 teams if a lot of them aren't very good.

I'm not saying Maryland is better then Georgetown or vice versa, the ACC is just a better conference this year. Watch the games and you'll see for yourself.

Posted by: J(DC) | February 12, 2007 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for the Georgetown clarification and my apologies.

I was at the GU-Marquette game, as well and I immediately blushed at the "overrated" chant. Not only is it low-class, when we dropped from #8 to #nothing before Big East play, we forfeited all rights to call anyone overrated.

Whether the Big East is overrated has no bearing on whether the results of ranked teams should be reported. No one is arguing for round-the-clock USF news, but top 25 local teams deserve some coverage, regardless of conference.

Posted by: danj | February 12, 2007 2:01 PM | Report abuse

"That league already co-exists in Big East country: the MAAC."

Good point! Although I don't think it's being harsh on the MAAC to say that those schools don't think about market share, national image, etc like Marquette, Georgetown and Villanova. And that's probably a good thing.

Posted by: Kev | February 12, 2007 2:09 PM | Report abuse

I also hate the "overrated" chant. I hate it in high school sports and hate it even more in college sports. With many college sports having short seasons and rankings actually meaning if you make a post-season, you want your opponent to be a highly thought of opponent.

Posted by: sitruc | February 12, 2007 2:44 PM | Report abuse

MAAC schools only get national pub when there's a measles outbreak or they start a season 0-22. Come to think of it, Siena wasn't even in the MAAC during the measles fiasco.

Posted by: GTB | February 12, 2007 3:04 PM | Report abuse

I'm disappointed that you missed the two disappointing stories of the weekend: 1) GW not showing up for the 2nd half of their HOME game against XU and 2) the Nighthawks 7'9" Ming missing a slam dunk on national TV with their owner standing right there trying to explain how the kid is going to play in the NBA!

Posted by: Hockey Guy | February 12, 2007 3:28 PM | Report abuse

I completely agree that the chants of "over-rated" in college bball are ridiculous and embarrassing. But I DO think that the chant makes more sense on the college football scene where the rankings are more important (or sometimes made to seem more important).

Posted by: Scroot | February 12, 2007 5:21 PM | Report abuse

"Frankly, I'm happy to see the Wizards upset and fighting with each other. Maybe they understand how frustrated we are at their complete refusal to even consider playing defense. Maybe their pride has finally been hurt, and not a moment too soon. Winning teams don't take games off, and the Wizards have been guilty of that all season."

Bryc3, I'm with you.

Agent Stein's right though -- it's not Gilbert's silliness that's the problem. No one's forbidding fun. It is the attidue of the entire team on defense that has to change.


Posted by: Nancy | February 12, 2007 6:04 PM | Report abuse

And...what weekend have you worked?ha!

AV-you should be arrested!!!

Posted by: WGDC- | February 13, 2007 12:28 AM | Report abuse

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