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Around The Horn tackles the sign ban


For everyone hoping the Redskins sign ban would go national, I'm pretty sure you got your wish on Wednesday.

(Quick interruption: the story--like so many important sports stories in this town--was first broken by The Great Dave McKenna of Washington City Paper, my former neighbor and babysitting partner. McKenna reported more than a week ago on the case of David Alperin, who went to the Tampa game with scads of paper plates bearing Snyder's face with a red line through it, only to see the plates and his "Love the Redskins Hate the Owner" banner confiscated by security.

"I said I knew what the rules were," Alperin says. "The guards told me, 'We changed the rules last night!' The security supervisor was walking up and down and was directing all the guards in the security lines to grab the signs and was very vigorous about grabbing all the signage. I don't think any of the plates I gave away made it inside the stadium."

Alperin saw his plates and poster thrown in trash piles at the entrances, which were full of decorated paper bags and signs and all sorts of other anti-Snyder paraphernalia made by other fans. The buzz everybody had felt in the parking lot was killed; Prague Spring for Redskins fans had been crushed by the ownership's heavy-handed tactics.

Please go read McKenna's account.)

Anyhow, among the many shows to discuss the new signage policy was Around the Horn. See the clip above. Highlight quotes:

Bill Plaschke: "This is beyond the pale. I can't believe that Federal Express, which pays $7.6 million a year to sponsor that stadium, wants their name associated with this kind of censorship.

Woody Paige: "I think the Redskins have made a tragic mistake. It's almost like an oppressive state that they're in."

Jay Mariotti: "They have one of the great fan bases in all of sports, one of the great stadiums in all of sports [huh?], and Dan Snyder is single-handedly ruining a franchise. Sell the team, pal."

Kevin Blackistone: "I used to be a part of that great, loyal fan base, and people are just ticked off to a height I've never seen before."

By Dan Steinberg  |  October 29, 2009; 7:23 AM ET
Categories:  Media , Redskins  
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Comments

Isn't Comrade Danny just following the precedent set by Comrade Barry at 1600 Pa Ave where censorship and controlling the message is par for the course.

Come on folks we now life in the SSA the Socialist States of America. If Comrade Barry and Comrade Nancy have their way you won't be able to eat meat or watch professional sports. Hide you guns!

And we will have to watch effete sportcasters like Steinberg on the tube.
Did your wife dress you yesterday for your appearance on th WP Show on CSN?

Posted by: vaherder | October 29, 2009 8:16 AM | Report abuse

final line is the best - "everything they do is bad."

how sad.

Posted by: capsfansince74 | October 29, 2009 8:20 AM | Report abuse

From the McKenna article:
"A photo of her in the shirt made Dan Steinberg’s D.C. Sports Bog at washingtonpost.com a day later. But the photo of Cameron disappeared from the blog after publication, along with other shots of civilly disobedient fans, and there was no explanation on the Post site for the disappearance. Steinberg declined to discuss the situation. Matt Vita, sports editor of the Washington Post, explains that the pictures of Cameron and the others were removed at the request of the Redskins.

“The Redskins said [Steinberg] was in violation of his credentials for taking the photographs,” Vita says. “We honored that request, because at the end of the day, they control access to their facility.”

Steinberg has over the years published photos taken at Redskins games using the exact same press pass, such as one featuring Alex Ovechkin at FedExField, without any complaints from the team or requests to have the pictures removed."

Posted by: wbbradb | October 29, 2009 8:24 AM | Report abuse

Really simple, don't use FedEx; plenty of other choices out there.

Posted by: Megskin | October 29, 2009 8:32 AM | Report abuse

wbbradb, I still find all those photos in the Bog archives, I'm not sure what the McKenna article is referring to.

Posted by: Section506 | October 29, 2009 8:35 AM | Report abuse

Vaherder, "Comrade Danny" is a huge republican and donated $50k to the Bob McDonnell campaign...a state he doesn't even live in.

Maybe we should leave politics out of this. Go to The Fix for that kind of crap.

Posted by: VTDuffman | October 29, 2009 8:51 AM | Report abuse

The original blog post with the pics that were deleted is here: http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2009/10/scenes_from_the_burgundy_revol.html

Posted by: wbbradb | October 29, 2009 8:52 AM | Report abuse

vaherder,
Yup, I remember when I went to an event wearing a t-shirt that had the president's face with a line through it and I got tossed out...oh wait, that was the last guy. Cram it with walnuts, ugly.

Posted by: cao091402 | October 29, 2009 8:55 AM | Report abuse

Blackistone crushes his Skins loyalty. Sweet.

Posted by: StetSportsBlog | October 29, 2009 8:59 AM | Report abuse

vaherder,
Way to go full retard.

Snyder was a Bush supporter and is a big donor to the GOP. This wreaks of post 9/11 right wing clamp down on free speech style fascism, socialists for all the flaws it entails is always gonna let the people have their say.

Posted by: alex35332 | October 29, 2009 8:59 AM | Report abuse

Isn't Comrade Danny just following the precedent set by Comrade Barry at 1600 Pa Ave where censorship and controlling the message is par for the course.

Come on folks we now life in the SSA the Socialist States of America. If Comrade Barry and Comrade Nancy have their way you won't be able to eat meat or watch professional sports. Hide you guns!

And we will have to watch effete sportcasters like Steinberg on the tube.
Did your wife dress you yesterday for your appearance on th WP Show on CSN?

Posted by: vaherder | October 29, 2009 8:16 AM | Report abuse

Dude, go put in your head back in the sand. You're more clueless than Danny boy is. In addition, leave your political thoughts on a blog that is about politics and may give a damn.

Posted by: croftonpost | October 29, 2009 9:02 AM | Report abuse

Cut it out with the political talk

Posted by: thediesel | October 29, 2009 9:24 AM | Report abuse

Fans there (I don't live in the area) should pass a hat to fly a (Snyder Sucks) banner plane over the stadium on GameDay. What are the Fascist FedEx guards going to do -- chase them around in their own plane?? Or go up in Danny Boy's helicopter? That would be easily more entertaining than anything happening on the field....

Posted by: BSM1202 | October 29, 2009 9:31 AM | Report abuse


contact | FedEx Global Newsroom
http://news.van.fedex.com/contact

this is what I sent...

Hello,
I am a long time fan of the Washington Redskins and avid FedEx user and I wanted to draw your attention to the iron curtain that is FedEx Field and how this reflects on your company. As you may know, FedEx field has effectively become a censorship “state” that deploys coercive tactics to enforce its "new" rules.[1] At present, fans are prohibited from bring any signs (a common site at sporting events), clothing (critical of the team or owner), and television interviews at tailgates (another common occurrence at sporting events). While I won't waste your time getting into the specifics of each individual assault on our freedom of speech, I do wish to point out how these policies reflect on your company. As a firm that exists to unite the globe (via fast, reliable shipping) this message of intolerance stands in stark contrast to the FedEx vision. In continuing your association with the Redskins and FedEx Field, you are directly supporting the oppression of your clients (and undermining your own revenues). Burke said that “all that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing”, to that end, I beseech you act now; withdraw your support of the Redskins’ restrictive policies by cancelling your sponsorship of FedEx Field.

Thanks in advance,
XXX XXX

[1] http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/28/AR2009102804589.html
Your T-Shirts Are Okay With FedExField. Also, Lots Of Mike Wise and Dave Donovan
D.C. Sports Bog - By The Washington Post's Dan Steinberg

Posted by: HonestSkinsFan | October 29, 2009 9:33 AM | Report abuse

If you check the FEC reports (which you can, just go to their website) Dan Snyder's history of campaign giving is available:

Steve Forbes 1999 $1,000
RNC 1998-2000 $15,000
Frank Wolfe 2004 $4,000
George Allen 2005 $4,200
VA GOP 2005 $5,000
Gridiron-PAC 2008 $5,000
Steny Hoyer 2009 $1,500

Of course, after looking all that up, I found out there's a website that does this too:
http://www.newsmeat.com/sports_political_donations/Daniel_Snyder.php

Posted by: Section506 | October 29, 2009 9:33 AM | Report abuse

It sickens me that a major newspaper would be so spineless as to remove pictures of FANS just because the Redskins asked them to. What's next? Maybe deleting a quote here or there? Maybe just remove one or two lines that Danny Boy objected to. After all, he controls access to the facility. It sickens me that reporters, like Steinberg, who are the ones that create the content, are being undermined and censored instead of supported and praised. Disgusting.

Posted by: wbbradb | October 29, 2009 9:36 AM | Report abuse

I should hope the story gets national attention; it is woefully underreported.

Posted by: Section117 | October 29, 2009 9:41 AM | Report abuse

all we need is 100,000 fans to put up at least $ 1000. each ...public owned team like the Packers...all the Danny cares about or wants really is money we all know that

Posted by: heathdog1119 | October 29, 2009 9:42 AM | Report abuse

So who wants to make 90,000 burgundy & gold UPS t-shirts?

Posted by: BlueberryRuffin | October 29, 2009 9:51 AM | Report abuse

Still at it, i modified the FedEx email to work (somewhat) for Roger Goodell. I'm not sure I have the right email, but it hasn't been returned to me. I tried the (roger.goodell2@nfl.net) address and it did not work. If you guys have a better option, please let us know...

Roger.Goodell@nfl.net

Mr. Goodell,
I am a long time fan of the Washington Redskins and I wanted to draw your attention to the iron curtain that is FedEx Field and how this reflects on the NFL's brand. As you may know, FedEx field has effectively become a censorship “state” that deploys coercive tactics to enforce its "new" rules.[1] At present, fans are prohibited from bring any signs (a common site at sporting events), clothing (critical of the team or owner), and television interviews at tailgates (another common occurrence at sporting events). While I won't waste your time getting into the specifics of each individual assault on our freedom of speech, I do wish to point out how these policies reflect on the NFL. As a league that exists to unite the country (one game, one set of rules, forging new human bonds, uniting perfect strangers) this message of intolerance stands in stark contrast to the NFL vision. By remaining silent on the Redskins, you are directly supporting the oppression of your clients (and undermining your own revenues). Burke said that “all that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing”, to that end, I beseech you act now; withdraw your support of the Redskins’ restrictive policies by issuing a league wide rule that ensures the freedom of speech at all NFL games.

Thanks in advance,
XXX XXX

[1] washingtonpost.com - nation, world, technology and Washington area news and headlines wp-dyn/content/article/2009/ 10/28/AR2009102804589.html
Your T-Shirts Are Okay With FedExField. Also, Lots Of Mike Wise and Dave Donovan
D.C. Sports Bog - By The Washington Post's Dan Steinberg

Posted by: HonestSkinsFan | October 29, 2009 10:13 AM | Report abuse

vaherder - save the politics for the politics section - talk football

Posted by: jocoxx | October 29, 2009 10:29 AM | Report abuse

So who wants to make 90,000 burgundy & gold UPS t-shirts?

Posted by: BlueberryRuffin | October 29, 2009 9:51 AM
+++++++++++++
That would get FedEx and Li'l Dan's attention wouldn't it? How a about a chant of "U P S! U P S! Maybe Brown can fix this mess!"

Posted by: splitbill | October 29, 2009 10:37 AM | Report abuse

Buy Pizza Hut or Dominos. But first call Papa Johns and tell them why you're not ordering from them first.

Posted by: prokaryote | October 29, 2009 11:03 AM | Report abuse

splitbill, that chant idea is brilliant. They can't throw out the whole stadium, can they?

Posted by: seahawkdad | October 29, 2009 11:09 AM | Report abuse

LOVE the UPS idea. If the dick...tater won't listen to fans, he'll definitely listen to a multi-million dollar corporate sponsor.

Posted by: franko11 | October 29, 2009 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Is it really such a good thing to have Skip Bayless and Jay Mariotti trumpeting your cause? I mean, they're right - but they're also morons.

Posted by: tha_prophet | October 29, 2009 11:26 AM | Report abuse

F vaherder... not the place for politics, jacka$$!

Posted by: norton1102 | October 29, 2009 11:58 AM | Report abuse

People shoule bring a big sign that says simply "freedom of speech" or "my first amendment rights". Or a big sign that is a replica of a skins ticket. Just so you can get a picture of Schred Ex security ripping it up and throwing it in the trash.

Posted by: cjzimm | October 29, 2009 12:40 PM | Report abuse

get rid of Vinny C.
He is just Little Dan's golfing partner who has been allowed to run amock.
When and where did Vinny ever PLAY pro footbsll ?Thank you.
Next get rid of Snyder if he cannot see the error of his ways in allowing Vinny C to destroy the Redskins Franchise.
Really.

Posted by: PARickert | October 29, 2009 12:50 PM | Report abuse

republicans (like snyder) are huge hypocrites....they whine about our constitutional rights being infringed upon by obama.....yet had no problem when cheney authorized warrantless wire tapping on all US citizens....and snyder has no problem suppressing skins' fans fredom of speech rights...by not allowing signs or posters into FEDEX field that express our dis-satisfaction with our inept owner and GM (cerrato/snyder).

monday night, i was able to smuggle 3 bags past the FEDEX field security when i entered the stadium.

I had one bag confiscated from me (in my seat) at halftime...the 2nd bag (with eye holes poked out) was taken from me in the 3rd quarter as i was walking the concourse...and the 3rd bag (which read ASHAMED SKINS FAN) was ripped from my head by a member of the FEDEX field GOON SQUAD.... as i exited the stadium... as that terrible football game ended.


Posted by: jrebstock | October 29, 2009 12:53 PM | Report abuse

heathdog1119

all we need is 100,000 fans to put up at least $ 1000. each ...public owned team like the Packers...all the Danny cares about or wants really is money we all know that

========================================
Unfortunately, the NFL rules now prohibit communities from owning teams. The Packers are the only team allowed to do so because of a "grandfather" clause.

I think we should start pushing back against Snyder and Cerrato and their corporate sponsors more. Cut off the money flow and the beast suffocates.

Posted by: GABinOdenton | October 29, 2009 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Again and again, Snyder is a despicable scum, a laughing stock but too dumb to know it or accept it. His hubris will never allow him to do the right thing. Since no one is allowed to speak to him first he will never find out how dumb he is.
dstafford2 is right. The only reason he had success in business is that he was handed things as a privileged little boy.

Posted by: redskinfan4life1 | October 29, 2009 3:46 PM | Report abuse

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