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Cris Carter: Point the Finger at Dan Snyder


Cris Carter sometimes has his issues with the English language, and you can certainly poke fun at some of his phrasing in this breakdown of the Skins' win over Tampa. See Mister Irrelevant, for an example of that. But I'm not sure that his skill as an oratory should obscure the main point here: a second former Pro Bowl player in two weeks is saying that Jason Campbell just doesn't have it.

"Well, you would think when you're playing against a defense like Tampa Bay it's one of those stat-stuffer games," Carter said, and indeed, four of the past five teams to play the Bucs have reached 30 points. "This is not the Tampa-2 with Tony Dungy and Monte Kiffin," Carter continued. " They've gone on to do different things in their lives, but Washington, there's really no syncness to their offense. They can't run the ball well. Campbell, people keep talking about the coordinators, but I watch him read an NFL defense and he looks like a guy that just came into the National Football League. He should have been progressed further longer in the quarterback growth process than he is right now."

I'm sorry, bad syntax or not, that's a harsh assessment from one of the best receivers ever to play the game. That matters. Carter also had strong words when asked what the problem is with the quarterback position in Washington.

"Well, ultimately the coaches are personally responsible, but as an athlete, you're personally responsible for your growth," Carter said. "I don't see him growing as a quarterback. Like, the future doesn't look bright in Washington. Daniel Snyder, if you want to point fingers, just point them all at him...I mean, Washington's not good. Two weeks ago scored nine points against St. Louis, last week lost to Detroit, and this game? Everybody in Washington getting a game ball. Daniel Snyder, he's got the budget. They weren't good."

(First posted by Real Redskins.)

By Dan Steinberg  |  October 6, 2009; 11:33 AM ET
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Comments

I guarantee you Carter didn't watch the Skins-Bucs game, so, yeah, his comments don't matter.

Posted by: jamesmottram | October 6, 2009 11:42 AM | Report abuse

I have only one question! Where the hell is the offensive line?????? We didn't have one last year, they didn't address it during offseason and once again we don't have a worthy offensive line!! Hell, Jason spends so much time running and trying to get out of the way that he can't throw. I am afraid before the season is out that he is going to get hurt? Can someone tell me why the Redskins officials can't see that their O line sucks!

Posted by: ivyleague | October 6, 2009 11:52 AM | Report abuse

i tend to agree with carter... he looked horrible in the first half. when you watch qb's like aaron rodgers, joe flacco, and matt ryan throwing the ball all over the field, you realize campbell could never do that in a million years.

Posted by: mopp04 | October 6, 2009 12:19 PM | Report abuse

I guarantee you Carter didn't watch the Skins-Bucs game, so, yeah, his comments don't matter.

Posted by: jamesmottram | October 6, 2009 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Classic skins fan denial. JASON CAMPBELL STINKS. Zorn knows it, why do you think the play calling is so limited? Because Campbell is not smart, he can't handle pressure, and no matter how poorly syntaxed Carter's assessment is, it's right on.

Posted by: BMACattack | October 6, 2009 12:22 PM | Report abuse

I stopped listening to anything Cris Carter had to say when he was tried to pump up his election into the HOF by putting down Art Monk.

Posted by: suzannepdc | October 6, 2009 12:23 PM | Report abuse

So because a guy has a southern drawl he is not smart now. Give me a break. If Campbell was a dummy, Gibbs would have never gone after him.

Posted by: KingJoffeJoffer | October 6, 2009 12:28 PM | Report abuse

chris carter = waste of oxygen

Posted by: jonthefisherman | October 6, 2009 12:34 PM | Report abuse

For me, last week's NFL film's audio byte of Zorn's demeaning sideline discussion with JC, said it all. From that audio, I can infer that Zorn is being made to play Campbell, by his top dawg-boss, Snyder.
I guess I've joined the chorus from around the nation, that it's a real shame that the team is Danni's play- toy. (and he hides behind Vinni)

Posted by: Max231 | October 6, 2009 12:49 PM | Report abuse

I guarantee you Carter didn't watch the Skins-Bucs game, so, yeah, his comments don't matter.
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Maybe he only watched the first half???

Or almost every pass thrown that wasn't to cooley or Moss?

Generic Snyder Apologist Repsonse Go!
"blah blah chris carter has some generic gripe against the skins or something, so everyone that points the finger at Dan Snyer is just jealous of his money and dashing good look, and everything is hunky dory out in Ashburn"

Posted by: jbanks979 | October 6, 2009 12:53 PM | Report abuse

Right, he certainly struggled against the Bucs. But the Redskins don't have any other options right now -- does anyone seriously want Todd Collins in the game over Jason Campbell?

And yes, while he had an awful first half, he played better in the second half and took more chances. True, he had three INTs, but didn't fans want him to take more chances down the field, trying to make some plays?

Anyway, unless something crazy happens, Campbell won't be back next season.

Posted by: mkremnitzer0 | October 6, 2009 12:54 PM | Report abuse

We don't need to turn to outside analysts to see and learn what a dolt and disappointment the Redskins have trying to play QB for them. Anyone who follows the Skins will see it week in and week out, and the only apparent consistency in the Washington offensive scheme is Campbell looking clueless and executing poorly -- despite how much they've progressively dumbed things down and tried to "keep it simple, stupid" for him. What a waste of a roster spot!

Posted by: Vic1 | October 6, 2009 1:03 PM | Report abuse

I think I'll take Hall of Fame Quarterback Troy Aikman's word for it that Jason Campbell DOES have what it takes to be a star in the NFL.

Sorry Steinz...but something tells me Troy Aikman knows a little more about the quarterback position than Cris Carter.

Posted by: Barno1 | October 6, 2009 1:06 PM | Report abuse

After seeing Aaron Rogers compete at a high level last night under constant pressure. I thought we all wanted a refresher of what we gave up to get Jason Campbell ONE PICK after Rogers.


http://silverchips.mbhs.edu/story/5265

Remember, Aaron Rodgers went one pick ahead of Campbell. There's definitely a wider gap in talent between those two than one lousy pick.

I can't understand why Joe Gibbs would give up three lower picks for the 25th to get Campbell, a guy who probably could have fallen into the beginning of the second round. They blew up whatever was left of their draft to get Campbell. Either he's the best clipboard holder in the world, or the Redskins really messed up.

Posted by: isonic1 | October 6, 2009 1:17 PM | Report abuse

i tend to agree with carter... he looked horrible in the first half. when you watch qb's like aaron rodgers, joe flacco, and matt ryan throwing the ball all over the field, you realize campbell could never do that in a million years.

Posted by: mopp04 | October 6, 2009 12:19 PM | Report abuse
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Flacco and Ryan have way better O-lines and a way better rushing attack than the Redskins. And both Flacco and Ryan have better recieving options than Campbell.

Rodgers looked average yesterday. Big stats (kinda like Campbell did last week), but was sacked 8 times and got a loss. No QB, not even Brady or Peyton will have a good game if they are being flushed out of the pocket, sacked, hit at every snap.

Campbell will be snapped up within a week of becoming a FA and will do well where ever he goes, provided he doesnt end up in a similar or worse team than the Skins. Whomever the Skins get to replace him, will go through the exact same thing.

Posted by: vmrg1974 | October 6, 2009 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Reminds me of the articles we read last week talking about too many violent hits to the head causing Alzheimer’s disease and other dementia-related ailments for some football players.

Troy Aikman had to retire after experiencing a few too many violent concussions -- and now we he thinks that JC is star material. It's really sad to see raging dementia taking hold of another one of the icons of the game.

Posted by: Vic1 | October 6, 2009 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Chris Carter is spot on. I love JC, but he has not developed into the QB he should be after 5 years in the league. I sat and wonder how JC has better statistics than Eli Manning, but Eli has a $100 million contract extension. Eli makes the plays with the ball when it counts, JC doesn't. When has JC won a game for us. There are alot of teams with offensive lines and a running game worst than the Skins.
The last 2 Super Bowl winning teams had quarterbacks make a play under heavy pressure. Watch the film JC.
B Mitch said it after the Lions lost.

1. We need a real GM
2. We need players who will play with heart.
3. We need a quarterback
4. We need a new head coach and offensive coordinator.

Posted by: tonywhitehead1 | October 6, 2009 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Vic1, promise me one thing. Don't disappear from the blogs when January rolls around. I can't wait to see what you'll have to say when Cambpell has led us to the playoffs.

Posted by: Barno1 | October 6, 2009 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Campbell right now is on pace for nearly 4000 yards, 20 TDs, 65% completions, and an 85.5 rating that is a bit skewed because of his 3 INTs on Sunday.

When was the last time we had a QB throw for 4000 yards and 20 TDs?

Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Anyone?

Posted by: Barno1 | October 6, 2009 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Vic1, promise me one thing. Don't disappear from the blogs when January rolls around. I can't wait to see what you'll have to say when Cambpell has led us to the playoffs.

Oh Barno1, you irascible (paid?) Snyder apologist you, how clever! Playoffs, that's adorable! Is someone on this team going to be MVP of the NFL as well? Will there be a ticker tape parade thrown in honor of Dan Snyder's brilliance in December??

Posted by: jbanks979 | October 6, 2009 1:46 PM | Report abuse

jbanks --

Will still be here, thanks.. but suspect that the only way that JC will take anyone to the playoffs is by buying some tickets -- to some out of town games -- from some Dan Snyder owned or affiliated ticket resalers like stubhub or ticketsnow.

Posted by: Vic1 | October 6, 2009 2:00 PM | Report abuse

BMACattack

Truth is no one knows in week 4 what will be going on with most of the NFL by playoff time. Skins fans just like to be doom and gloom these days because they have been soo much over the top expectations every year that the new approach is trash the team until they win. Did anyone predict the Cardinals being in the superbowl in 08? Did anyone in NY think the giants would be in the superbowl in 07, much less beat the patriots during week 4 of that year? No the giants were 1-2 at the time. I remember Strahan contemplating retiring before that season and Tiki Barber actually retiring throwing his coach and QB under the bus along with NY fans and football experts doing the same. No one believed in the Giants until Plaxico caught the game winning TD in the superbowl all that season. We as fans know very little about pro football to make any predictions. We are just fans. We are happy when the skins win and mad when they loose. If the skins owner as bad as he is actually listened to fans the skins would be in even worse shape than they currently are.

Posted by: ged0386 | October 6, 2009 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Gee let's see, professional athlete Cris Carter, or some goofy leftist blogger at the compost? Tough call. Cris Carter is 100% correct. Campbell is a backup QB at best..

Posted by: SMWE357 | October 6, 2009 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Vic1

Anyone who gives up on any success from their team by the 4th game and they are 2-2 is not really a fan. In actuallity the skins under Zorn are pretty much where I expected them to be. He is a second year coach and OC with no previous experience. The worse thing he could have done to spoiled skins fans is go 6-2 last year during the first half of the season. Now our expectations have risen for him to the level of experienced playoff tested coach. Remember, snyder only hired him because he could not get the fantasy coach he wanted. He expected Zorn to fail just in time for him to hire his fantasy pick like Cower and now Shannahan, Dungy or even Chucky if they arent willing to sign up for the big money job. But there a reason he wont get these guys, they all know he wont get out of the way. Snyder wants to take credit for the skins success they way he does other successes in his life. But in doing so he is getting in the way of his own success. Until snyder is willing to sit down and stay out of the way, Jim Zorn type coaches is all he will get. I like Zorn, I think one day he will be a good coach. Trouble is skins fans, the media and the organization itself will never give Zorn time here to become successful. Why hire such a inexperienced coach if you were never really willing to give him a chance to win here? Snyder already knew Zorn had two seasons at best here unless he produced incredible yet unlikely results. Zorn is just here until his next fantasy pick becomes available.

Posted by: ged0386 | October 6, 2009 2:15 PM | Report abuse

Zorn's entire offense is a failure. If he were Offensive Coordinator only, he would have fired himself by now.

Posted by: shanks1 | October 6, 2009 2:17 PM | Report abuse

SMWE357

When did our sports preferences revolve around politics? Spoken by a right winger with a constant ongoing agenda to validate themselves. Give it up already. You cant equate politics with Sports. For example, Zorn like Campbell, Zorn also goes bike ridding with George W Bush. What does that make him, a leftist or right winger? Tell us ole political/sports expert...

Posted by: ged0386 | October 6, 2009 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Barno, oh poor, sweet, deluded Barno...

====Clip 'N' Save====

There is not a snowball's chance in Tempe (during JULY) that Jason Campbell, as the starting QB, leads this Redskins team to even a post season beat down at the hands of someone else in the Wild Card round.

QBs, like Campbell, who can't make quick decisions get shut down or squashed...they don't lead teams to the playoffs.

Another season in which Jason Campbell will pad his stats by throwing short completions in garbage time to up both his yardage and percentage totals...yet he failed to get the ball into the endzone more times than he threw interceptions.

Almost made me miss lil Pat Ramsey...ALMOST.

====Clip 'N' Save====

I FERVERNTLY hope I am 100% wrong, but ummm.. I wouldn't bet against me.

The upside is...the longer Campbell starts for this team, the better the draft pick we'll get to use to draft or trade away for his eventual replacement.

Not blaming Campbell for the team's woes, just saying he, his play style, and his deficiencies, make the other offensive deficiencies of this Redskins team MUCH, MUCH easier to exploit.

Posted by: ThinkingMan | October 6, 2009 2:24 PM | Report abuse

When did our sports preferences revolve around politics? Spoken by a right winger with a constant ongoing agenda to validate themselves. Give it up already. You cant equate politics with Sports. For example, Zorn like Campbell, Zorn also goes bike ridding with George W Bush. What does that make him, a leftist or right winger? Tell us ole political/sports expert...

Posted by: ged0386 | October 6, 2009 2:20 PM///////////I was actually referring to Steinberg, but if the shoe fits, go ahead and wear it son! Ans as for Zorn, you would think a west coast guy would most likely be leftist, but he did have the great Rush Limbaugh in his box a couple weeks ago, so who knows. What I do know for a fact is that Campbell sucks..

Posted by: SMWE357 | October 6, 2009 2:26 PM | Report abuse

When has JC won a game for us?
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This past Sunday.

Posted by: walkdwalk | October 6, 2009 2:29 PM | Report abuse

I'm not listening to Chris Carter or anybody else about Jason Campbell he won the game in the second half and that's all that matters, and when you've got a QB coach masquerading as a head coach(NFL) and a piss poor O-line and one legit wide receiver and three second year draft picks(2wr and a te) who were supposed to upgrade this team's receiving corps and haven't done jack sh!t from day one when management upgrades these problems then and only then will i listen to criticism's about JC and tell that ex drunk/coke head to take a speech class and learn how to enuciate his words properly before he goes on the air!

Posted by: dargregmag | October 6, 2009 2:29 PM | Report abuse

ged0386

Yep, I'm still a fan -- although not a delusional one.

And yep, like you I am also tired of Dan's near-schizophrenic dithering between high school and college caliber coaches (Zorn, Spurrier) and past-their-prime "living legends" like Gibbs and Schottenheimer. I don't why hiring a head coach with some current knowledge of the game, an ability to lead and organize a coaching staff and call a few plays has proven so difficult -- but I still believe the Redskins can do better than we have. This should not be a "earn while you learn" position.

And like you, this season is unfolding about as I figured too -- 2 and 2 right now, leading to an expected 4-12 overall season record. Remember, this is the "easy" part of the season... and know that this team has yet to show they're ready to compete with a real contender.

Where I disagree with you is in your assessment of Washington's "spoiled fans." This team has been on a losing slide of the ledger for too long -- but its fans have still continued to pack the stands and buy the latest line of bs coming out of team hqs each season. I'd might even be inclined to stay the course if I saw even the remotest possibility of progress ahead... but I don't.

So as I see it at least, there is no better time than the present moment to:

1. Fire Zorn.
2. Bench Campbell.
3. Fire Vinny.
4. Hire a GM.
5. Give the Redskins fans some reason to hope their team will eventually contend again.

Posted by: Vic1 | October 6, 2009 2:38 PM | Report abuse

yeah I agree with alot but JC looks like a SCARED PUPPY back there..just throw the damn ball to Kelly and see what the kid can do. Im sick of him sitting back there and just like a deer in the headlights....JUST THROW THE BALL and see what happens...cat get any worse

Posted by: obxneric | October 6, 2009 2:54 PM | Report abuse

If Campbell continues at his pace of 4000 yards, 20 TDs, and 65% accuracy...we will in all likelihood be a playoff team. He needs to keep the turnovers down, obviously, but Sunday was an aberration...he's never had 3 INTs before in his life and usually is very good at not turning the ball over.

IF Campbell stays healthy and keeps up the current pace, we will win 10+ games and be safely in the playoffs.

Posted by: Barno1 | October 6, 2009 2:58 PM | Report abuse

We don't need to turn to outside analysts to see and learn what a dolt and disappointment the Redskins have trying to play QB for them. Anyone who follows the Skins will see it week in and week out, and the only apparent consistency in the Washington offensive scheme is Campbell looking clueless and executing poorly -- despite how much they've progressively dumbed things down and tried to "keep it simple, stupid" for him. What a waste of a roster spot!

Posted by: Vic1 | October 6, 2009 1:03 PM | Report abuse
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Portis failure in gaining yards when running to the left is consistent.

Kelly and the other guy still being HORRIBLE WR is still a mark of consistency.

O-Line starting to break down once again is also consistent.

Cooley's horrible blocking is consistent.

Only guy that shows up is Moss and he consistently has hamstring problems each year, so for consistency-sake, I'm expecting him to get injured sometime in the next few weeks.

Posted by: vmrg1974 | October 6, 2009 2:59 PM | Report abuse

ok...joe flacco is much better than jason campbell...no comparison..end of discussion...please

Posted by: nattylite88 | October 6, 2009 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Of course his comments don't matter. He wasn't bashing JC when he threw for 340 yards last week. He waits until he has a bad game and now he can't play. Like TO said to that Harrison clown. Chris can you get me some of that coke you used when you were with the Eagles???

Posted by: punchdaclock | October 6, 2009 3:08 PM | Report abuse

VIC1: Let me guess you're a holdover from the Sonny Jurgensen era, JC is not clueless and NO! the offense hasn't been dumbed down to make it easier for him actually if anything Zorn has dialed back the playbook to make it easier for the blocking scheme's to succeed to keep Jason from getting killed on Sunday because of the porus O-Line play if you weren't so biased against Campbell and had a half azz clue then maybe just maybe you're post would have a degree of intelligence.

Posted by: dargregmag | October 6, 2009 3:38 PM | Report abuse

JC17 problem is not throwing pics, the 3 this weekend shocked most of the fans that have watched him evolve.

The problem is the fumbles resulting from holding the ball too low, the sacks resulting in holding onto the ball too long, the unnecesary pump fakes, and the prevailing sense of indecision.

I really like JC and I know he has all the physical tools. An awful offensive line isn't helping, but I am sadly resigned to the fact that he will never be an elite qb.

Posted by: jpfterps | October 6, 2009 3:50 PM | Report abuse

So he's not clueless.

I also know he's not calling the stupid plays.

He's only trying to execute them.

But to quote Forrest Gump, "Stupid is as stupid does."

Posted by: Vic1 | October 6, 2009 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Everyone is now coming out and saying the TRUTH: That JC is just an average QB, maybe worse. I still don't understand why there are so many JC backers, esp. on RI. Seriously, what has he ever done to make you believe he's anything but an average quarterback?

Even if he had a great offensive line, I still see a mediocre QB. He just lacks the football smarts that a quarterback must have. And Cris Carter and Rodney Harrison actually PLAYED football... I think they know more than us.

Posted by: rachel216 | October 6, 2009 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Campbell DOESN'T HAVE it!!!..sure there are big time o line problems, but i'm so SICK of people saying Campbell's stats have been improving (his qb rating, completion %, etc..), he's had x number of coordinators in x number of years, WHO CARES!!

this guy has started over 35 games, he has ball security problems, accuracy problems - Moss mentioned that JC overthrows often, stares down receivers, uses the check down too much (probably cause he can't see the field/read the opposing teams d), CAN'T GET TDs, can't win consistently....it's not Zorn, it's the talent on this team CAMPBELL AND THE 100 YR OLD O LINE. even if the o line were better, CAMPBELL IS JUST NOT A STARTING QB.

and what does this say about his leadership? Management treated him awful this past summer, Campbell should have a chip on his shoulder and he's STILL not producing!!! ugh!!!!

Posted by: criscila | October 6, 2009 4:28 PM | Report abuse

How can anyone defend Jason Campbell? This isn't his first year in this offense. This isn't his first year as a pro. This isn't his first year as a starter.

Fact. He is slow to read defenses. He is slow getting rid of the ball. He is not decisive. He is not a leader. He cannot turn a busted play into a positive play.

Yes, he can throw the long ball - but a truly gifted quarterback would throw the ball so that the receiver can catch it. Aside from two plays by Santana Moss this year and an equal number last year, Campbell brings inaccuracy to the field on long passes.

After watching other quarterbacks COMMAND the field and the offense, I keep watching for Jason to get a clue. It is HIS JOB to set the tempo of the game and to stoke others to succeed. I've yet to see him lead the team and his isn't going to win a game in the last minute for you.

If you want a body to put behind center that won't do too much damage (!) then keep Campbell. This offense is sputtering because of his lack of field awareness. The offensive line is not the reason he doesn't succeed - I watched a quarterback who was truly harassed last nite (Rodgers of GB) and he still manages to lead his team.

I think the Campbell experiment is a complete and utter failure - there is not one ounce of growth that you can see now over when he first started. In some ways, I see him actually being less decisive now than earlier in his career.

When a quarterback is unable to dine on prime rib offered freely by weak opponents, then how are we to expect he'll rise up and find a way to earn the prime rib dinner when the competition is that much better? I'm sorry, but as a FORMER Campbell support, I lost faith when he said he was "pressing" in the first half. Press? Against THAT DEFENSE?!!!!

Posted by: laserwizard | October 6, 2009 4:47 PM | Report abuse

JC17 problem is not throwing pics, the 3 this weekend shocked most of the fans that have watched him evolve.

The problem is the fumbles resulting from holding the ball too low, the sacks resulting in holding onto the ball too long, the unnecesary pump fakes, and the prevailing sense of indecision.

I really like JC and I know he has all the physical tools. An awful offensive line isn't helping, but I am sadly resigned to the fact that he will never be an elite qb.

Posted by: jpfterps | October 6, 2009 3:50 PM | Report abuse

JPfterps we agree on almost everything except the last part. I wouldn't call our O-line awful, not yet anyway. Don't think the verdict is out yet on Reinhart and Heyer, but we know the left side is at the very least solid and dependable.

Here's what gets me. We dropped 2 easy TDs in week 2, if we had caught those JC would be on pace for 28 TDs right now and 4000 yards, and a 66% completion percentage... Are those not elite numbers? I've seen guys make the pro bowl with less.

Posted by: Barno1 | October 6, 2009 6:45 PM | Report abuse

the line is the problem, not Campbell. He had a bad game, but he wasn't responsible for the two losses. Interestingly, NFL Network ran a show called Greatest 4th Quarters, or something like that, and the first game they showed was 2005 regular season Redskins-Bucs -- the real Bucs defense. The points went above 30 for each team nevertheless and SURPRISE -- most of the core Redskins offensive players were the ones we have today: Moss, Cooley, Portis were the stars. They could score. Moss scored. Portis ran all over them. Betts ran well. Brunell was Q. The meaningful difference between then and now is the line ... same guys mostly but older now. Give Portis a hole and he can hit it. But the line doesn't get the penetration it used to, injuries and age have taken their toll.

Posted by: druppe01 | October 6, 2009 8:07 PM | Report abuse

the line is the problem, not Campbell. He had a bad game, but he wasn't responsible for the two losses. Interestingly, NFL Network ran a show called Greatest 4th Quarters, or something like that, and the first game they showed was 2005 regular season Redskins-Bucs -- the real Bucs defense. The points went above 30 for each team nevertheless and SURPRISE -- most of the core Redskins offensive players were the ones we have today: Moss, Cooley, Portis were the stars. They could score. Moss scored. Portis ran all over them. Betts ran well. Brunell was Q. The meaningful difference between then and now is the line ... same guys mostly but older now. Give Portis a hole and he can hit it. But the line doesn't get the penetration it used to, injuries and age have taken their toll.

Posted by: druppe01 | October 6, 2009 8:07 PM | Report abuse

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Bucs and Skins played each other in the playoffs that year too and it was a low scoring game. Actually, I think Sean Taylor ran a fumble back for a TD and both offenses pretty much did nothing all day that day.

Also, a couple years ago Bucs beat the Skins in Tampa, another low scoring game, again with the same core group of REdskins. They had 6 TO that day.

This was a low scoring game, as was Gibbs first game back. That 38-35 game was an aberration to what these 2 teams usually deliver against each other.

Posted by: vmrg1974 | October 7, 2009 10:04 AM | Report abuse

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