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Feinstein Calls For Skins Boycott


Chatting at 11:30. Submit questions here. Make 'em happy.

Today's notes from the barricades. And gosh, there are a lot of them.

John Feinstein Boycott

Boycott talk has been strong among fans for weeks now, but John Feinstein might be the first public figure to call for one. And stridently, at that. Here was Feinstein from Monday's Washington Post Live on Comcast SportsNet, where he managed to out-rant Brian Mitchell.

"Let's get to the point here," Feinstein said. "The Washington Redskins have become the Saturday Night Live routine of the NFL, all right? The owner thinks he knows football and doesn't know football. He's got a henchman sideguy to his right, who's a radio talkshow host half of the week and is calling Bingo callers to fix the offense the rest of the week. It is a joke.

"And let me say this for the record, I know what Redskins fans are saying right now. They're angry, they're upset. Ok, DO something about it. DON'T go to the game Sunday. I'm serious about this. If you really want to send a message to the owner, stop calling radio talk shows, stop sending e-mails to this show, and DON'T GO on Sunday. Don't give the guy your money for parking, for concessions.

"Tell him how upset you are by staying home and watching the game on television. They ought to just stay home....DON'T GO. STAY HOME AND WATCH THE GOOD GAMES. DON'T GO!"

Wow.

Larry Michael Makes Concessions to the Haters

The regime is crumbling, but I still never thought Michael would give in to this wave of populism. But whattya know, after weeks/months/years of mocking "the haters," a newly contrite Larry Michael was on display during Monday's Redskins Nation, a show he repeatedly called "Reality Check Monday." I guess the theory here is you have to give The People a transistor radio or two to keep them from breaking down your door and stealing your appliances. Among his concessions:

* "Obviously the Redskins are struggling right now."

* "What will it take for this team to be a good football team? Do they have the talent to be a good football team? Do they have the scheme to be a good football team? Do they have the heart to be a good football team? Lot of questions need to be answered in the coming weeks."

* "The haters are still out there, but we're gonna shy away from using that term, at least for the time being. Because a lot of fans, a lot of Redskins fans out there are just desperate for something good to happen to this football team....They're just desperate for a win. They're desperate for this franchise to take a step up. Maybe Sunday is the day."

* "Right now, Reality Check Monday, you've got to wonder what the rest of the season, how it will unfold for this football team. Because they've had so much adversity, so much scrutiny, and so many things go wrong for them in the first five weeks of the season, you've got to wonder how much heart they have. I believe they have the heart. You've got to get started sooner or later."

* "This is a Reality Check Monday, and it hasn't been very pleasant, and even yours truly, the purveyor of hope, is close to despair."

* "You know what, the word hater now, I'm gonna kind of shelve that word for the next couple of weeks, because I've got to come up with a better word for that. Because it doesn't correctly describe what some of the fans are feeling out there, fans who have been lifelong fans. I've had a lot of e-mails, a lot of phone calls, lifelong fans, frustrated with the way things have unfolded."

Next step: abdication, and fleeing for the hills while seeking asylum in Pittsburgh.

New Web Sites

Hard to keep up.

* Buyout Snyder: "Because I don't have millions lying around we have to come together as a TEAM and buy out Snyder. Let's get together. Let's raise money. Lets find someone rich to buy him out!!!!!!"

* FanExodus.com: The main feature is "a register for fans to list how long they have supported the Redskins and what they're willing to give up to make Mr. Snyder change things." The mission is to form "a coalition of fans who are prepared to stop buying Redskins tickets and merchandise until Mr. Snyder hires a new General Manager and promises to allow him enough autonomy to build a successful organization."

* Mervis Petition: A petition for Ronnie Mervis to buy the Redskins. Seriously.

* Those shirts above are available here. Via @boycottsnyder.

Zorn Flailing

Another quote from his Monday interview with Chick Hernandez on CSN, when asked if he had enough talent to work with.

"Yeah, because it's what we have to work with, and you can only improve on what you have now, not what you might have in the future or what you had in the past," Zorn said. "You can only do with what you have now, and that's what we go with. That's Redskins football."

You know, he's bloody right. That IS Redskins football.

Samuels Speaks Truth

Here's something from Chris Samuels's latest blog post on CSNWashington.com: "Anyone who knows football knows that having a successful offense starts with the big guys up front."

Hmmm. Pass it on.

"He May Not Be Just That Good Enough"

During his weekly appearance on 106.7 The Fan's LaVar and Dukes show, Jason Campbell used variations on the word "tough" eight times. He also was asked whether he was gonna start screaming at people.

"From my standpoint right now, you can hoot and holler and do everything you want to do, but at some point of time, it's either you can do it, or you can't do it," Campbell said. "If you standing there hollering at someone, just hollering at him and hollering at him, he may be doing the best he can do. He may not be just that good enough to do it. And you've got to be real, you know what I'm saying? That means you can go around and pinpoint anybody, tell 'em hey come play football, and if they holler at you you're gonna do a good job? It doesn't work that way."

By Dan Steinberg  |  October 13, 2009; 11:26 AM ET
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Comments

Nail head , I'd like you to meet Mr. Hammer.

Posted by: will_ga | October 13, 2009 11:37 AM | Report abuse

Wow. Larry went from "Cowboys fans are infiltrating the fan base" to "this team is really screwed up and the fans are understandably mad" in a week and a half. This revolution is moving quickly...

Posted by: TheFingerman | October 13, 2009 11:46 AM | Report abuse

"He may not be just that good enough to do it."

If the shoe fits, JC.

Posted by: cmterpsnskins | October 13, 2009 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Watching Larry Michael being "close to despair" was sort of sad... It was like watching the Easter Bunny cry.

Posted by: JohnnyRyde | October 13, 2009 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Watching Larry Michael being "close to despair" was sort of sad... It was like watching the Easter Bunny cry.

Posted by: JohnnyRyde
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Don't worry, this is management setting up the fanbase for the inevitable Zorn firing. Then once Gruden gets hired, everything will be sunshine, rainbows, and theismans again over at the propaganda branch of Redskins park.

Posted by: jbanks979 | October 13, 2009 12:00 PM | Report abuse

I'm just going to pretend the fluke punt play did not happen and this team went on to win and is now 3-2 and likely 4-2 after this weekend. Convincing myself of this is about the only way I'm getting through this week.

Posted by: Barno1 | October 13, 2009 12:16 PM | Report abuse

"Anyone who knows football knows that having a successful offense starts with the big guys up front."

That's just silly. Offensive line? When did those guys ever sell jerseys? Anyone who knows football knows that selling jersys wins championships. You're way off base, Chrissy-poo.

FIRE CERRATO

Posted by: ThisGuy | October 13, 2009 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Ronnie Mervis? Hilarious.

Posted by: mkremnitzer0 | October 13, 2009 12:20 PM | Report abuse

Would the Communication Czar ever publicly question Cerrato? That will be the "let them eat cake" moment of the revolution.

STORM THE GATES!

Posted by: jpfterps | October 13, 2009 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Barno makes his first appearance, and it appears he is overcome. Slowly the revolution is affecting everyone

Posted by: jpfterps | October 13, 2009 12:24 PM | Report abuse

Screw Feinstein. I'm in dispair about the Skins as much as anyone, but I'm not about to boycott my hometown team. Diehard.

If I had Feinstein's attitude I'd probably boycott my hometown newspaper over it's recent run of tough luck.

Posted by: PowerBoater69 | October 13, 2009 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Boycott the Redskins, music to my ears. It's what I've been hoping for for ages. It hits the capitalist Sndyer right where he lives, because he only cares about his income and he won't change until the fans get him where it hurts. Give us our team back!

Posted by: atidwell | October 13, 2009 12:27 PM | Report abuse

Can someone tell all these moronic "boycott" idiots like Feinstein that their grand idea of no one showing up at the stadium won't work? We have already paid for our season tickets. It's not like season ticket holders walk up to the front gate, make their weekly payment, and then are let inside. If someone doesn't even understand how buying season tickets works, then his or her opinion on how to change the team's performance carries zero weight.

Yes, we could all try to convince everyone not to buy food, drinks, etc. once inside the stadium, but if you're a real fan, you're at the stadium early enough to tailgate and not need to buy food inside.

Go back to covering ACC basketball Feiny and being upset about how VA Tech and BC have been the best two football teams in the ACC (both former Big East teams) since the "merger."

Posted by: Section104 | October 13, 2009 12:42 PM | Report abuse

My question in today's chat (I include not bc of Steinberg's nice words--thanks for those btw-- but bc this blog entry specifically relates to my question).

Barno, MD: Does John Feinstein seriously not realize that 100 percent of stadium parking passes and 99 percent of tickets that are sold for home games are sold well in advance of the game (generally only club level seats are available the week of a game and very few of those sell the week of).

Boycotting the Redskins six days before their next game will do next to nothing financially other than selling a few less sodas, hot dogs, etc. I think Dan Snyder will live. The real loser when there are more empty seats are the players, who would be playing with less of a home field advantage with less folks in the stands to yell and make it difficult for the opposing team while we're on defense.

So if you want to hurt the team's chances of winning while simultaneously doing nothing to hurt Snyder's wallet, by all means don't come to the game on Sunday. That'll show 'em!

washingtonpost.com: John Feinstein: Everyone Answers for Mistakes -- Except Officials (Washington Post, Oct. 13)

Dan Steinberg: I guess you'd have to ask him that, not me.

Hey Barno, by the way, good to hear from you. Been hoping you're well. Whatever you want to say about Barno--and lots of fans have said lots of uncomplimentary things--he says what he believes, and he doesn't back away no matter how dire things look. When a similar (though much less intense) despair was afflicting Terps basketball last winter, he repeatedly said that the Terps would be fine and that everyone would love Gary Williams again by April. I think he was right. When national analysts were predicting doom and gloom for the Strasburg negotiations, he repeatedly said that Strasburg would sign for a reasonable number and there was no need for even the slightest nerves, even into the last few hours. He was right there, too.

He has said, over and over, that he'd be shocked if these Skins don't win 10 games. I'm guessing the Samuels injury has him down, but he won't back away from what he's said. Give him credit for that.

Posted by: Barno1 | October 13, 2009 12:43 PM | Report abuse

Kudos to Junior for the tough talk, I'd be wiling to bet he's been in the owner's box before, too!
And to me, Larry Michael's is just a mouthpiece for the owner-gm. He needs to wear a Danni Holloween mask wehn he talks!

Posted by: Max231 | October 13, 2009 12:46 PM | Report abuse

The site is www.fanexodus.com --> it is live already, Dan just forgot the "www"

Check it out, it's great.

Posted by: nij3k | October 13, 2009 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Need to get Pete Kendall back in here, asap. It has to happen. It has to.

Posted by: Barno1 | October 13, 2009 12:48 PM | Report abuse

It's never as bad as you think! But you can't improve if your afraid to make a change. Dear God please make a change...

Posted by: LongTimeSkinsFan | October 13, 2009 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Oh yeah, Pete Kendall will right this ship!

Hopefully he doesn't fumble another tipped pass.

Posted by: dmorgan6617 | October 13, 2009 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Pete Kendall is 36 years old and from the last reports has severe arthritis of the knees. (He flat out could not practice the last year he was here).

Then again, he'd cause less long term damage to his body than Chris Samuels would with spinal stenosis

Posted by: jbanks979 | October 13, 2009 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Larry Michael, Vinny Cerrato ... just a couple of Snyder's highly paid stooges.

Posted by: lf12 | October 13, 2009 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Larry Michael tows the company line hook line and sinker. I knew his role when Frank Herzog was canned ?-years ago.

Redskins nation is a horrible show just because they sit there and try to justify or gloss over reality every night.

Posted by: oknow1 | October 13, 2009 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Bring back Herzog!

Posted by: hessone | October 13, 2009 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Pete Kendall is going to save things ?
Yeah right, your a fool !!!

Posted by: OG_Barno | October 13, 2009 1:14 PM | Report abuse

I'm sure that before Larry Michael uttered those words they had to be submitted to Mr. $nyder for his approval, and while $nyder was reviewing those words, he his dick stuffed into Larry Michael's mouth.

Posted by: VeloStrummer | October 13, 2009 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Being a lifelong fan, it pains me to say this, but here goes...

This is to serve as my two-week notice that effective Tuesday, October 27, 2009 I will no longer watch the Washington Redskins for the remainder of Daniel Snyder's ownership of the organization.

Posted by: desidrew | October 13, 2009 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Hey, quarterbacks, receivers and running backs win games. Offensive linemen are just dudes that get in the way.

Just like a little kid, Snyder must think the same way.

Posted by: richs91 | October 13, 2009 1:23 PM | Report abuse

I love my Redskins and always will. If you boycott the team, the team will lose money. If that happens, do you really think someone will just come along and by the team from Snyder? do you really think he would sell? Here's a suggestion I have instead of the boycott. A million fan watch on Ashburn or FedEx. Here's my reasoning:
1. Select a day when the team is at practice and pass the word to all the fans to bring signs, petitions, etc. Call any available media to tell them of the event. And the fans just come out and voice their displeasure on how the team has been run the past 10 years.

2. Select a game(NFC East Home Game; bigger coverage) and do the same thing. Snyder may be able to control the content inside the stadium. But along streets is public property and all signs and banners that aren't offensive or hatefull are perfectly legal.

I believe that a civil but public response would be so humiliating that something would have to happen. Just imagine thousands of Redskins fans marching up Rt 7 or going up MD 202 or Sheriff Rd chanting and holding signs asking Snyder to stop holding our beloved team hostage. With Brian Mitchell, Doc Walker, and Gary Clark as keynote speakers to fire the crowd up more. I know it's out there but I can drean can't I.

Posted by: justskinfan1 | October 13, 2009 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Notwithstanding the tipped pass catch and fumble returned for a TD that cost us the Rams game and probably the season...Pete Kendall was a dependable guard with the skins for 2 years. Played and started in all 32 games. Yes he is very old. Yes he is not the answer to fixing the line in the future. But yes, we DO need him right now. Badly.

I would welcome him back for the remainder of this year in an instant.

Posted by: Barno1 | October 13, 2009 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Being a lifelong fan, it pains me to say this, but here goes...

This is to serve as my two-week notice that effective Tuesday, October 27, 2009 I will no longer watch the Washington Redskins for the remainder of Daniel Snyder's ownership of the organization.

Posted by: desidrew | October 13, 2009 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Why 2 weeks? And why claim to be a lifelong fan? Clearly, you are not. "Lifelong," as I understand it, means the length of your life.

Posted by: Barno1 | October 13, 2009 1:37 PM | Report abuse

It might be a bit much to ask fans who have paid triple digits for tickets not to use those tickets at FedEx field. There are other things, though, fans can do to hit The Dan’s pocketbook:
1) Do not buy anything w/ a Redskins logo on it. The Dan gets a piece of each purchase. Wear all the generic burgundy and gold clothing you want. Just don’t buy official Redskins items.
2) If you attend FedEx field, don’t buy any food, souvenirs, or other concessions.
3) Do not watch on TV or listen on radio to any of the several programs/stations owned by Snyder’s Redskins Broadcast Network. If ratings go down, The Dan’s ad revenue goes down.
Above all, remember: you’re boycotting Snyder, not the Washington Redskins. Stay loyal to the players and coaches and to the traditions of the burgundy and gold.

Posted by: MrMerkin | October 13, 2009 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Even Baghdad Larry is now noticing that the deck chairs are tilted at an unnatural angle?

Posted by: rooster75 | October 13, 2009 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Merkin coming through with some common sense. I like it.

Posted by: Barno1 | October 13, 2009 1:56 PM | Report abuse

How long before Snyder calls the Washington Post to have the T-shirt image in this article removed?

Posted by: Randy_Hawkins | October 13, 2009 2:01 PM | Report abuse

I'm just going to pretend the fluke punt play did not happen and this team went on to win and is now 3-2 and likely 4-2 after this weekend. Convincing myself of this is about the only way I'm getting through this week.

Posted by: Barno1 | October 13, 2009 12:16 PM

So now being a "real fan" like Barno1 involves closing your eyes and singing LALALALALALALALA while hiding under a blanket. In your parent's basement, of course.

Posted by: hithere1 | October 13, 2009 2:04 PM | Report abuse

It will be interesting to see what kind of influence John Feinstein has on the fans in this town. If 86 or 88K plus are in attendance on Sunday, he's going to look like an idiot.

There's been a lot of talk of boycotting on the blogs this season, and my guess is these calls are coming from fans who do not attend games anyway. Sorta ridiculous coming from these people if you ask me.

Posted by: Barno1 | October 13, 2009 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Hey pinhead - boycotting the game means staying away to demonstrate with your absence that you are pissed. Doesn't matter if you have already paid. An empty stadium of already-paid-for seats sends a message.

Also, if you're not there, you aren't getting loaded on Danny's beer or eating his crap sandwiches and getting fleeced for parking.

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | October 13, 2009 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Now that Barno1 has finally showed, I hope HE can make sense of these numbers:

The Redskins 2 wins came against currently winless teams.
2 losses came against previously winless teams.
4-9 dating back to mid-point of last season.
Team is averaging 14.6 points a game this season. Offense is averaging 13.2 points a game (i.e. throw out the Hunter Smith TD against Giants).
Not a single 100 yard rushing game by any back on the roster this season.
Have not scored 30 points at any time during the Zorn "era."
Campbell sacked 5 times; hurried 4 times; hit 3 times against Carolina.

So Barno1, let the spinning begin! Talk to us now about how great the Redskins are this season. While keeping straight face!

Posted by: hithere1 | October 13, 2009 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Even if the Redskins sign a big name coach...the players remain the same. The issue is the GM-Cerrato and Snyder. No one wikll win under this organization. And who really wants to coach them. I'd be shocked if Gruden, Cowher or Shanahan want to work for Snyder. Remember how the Gruden era came to an end in Oakland. Whats the difference b/n Oakland and Washington. The age of their owners. I'll take the guy who may croke sooner than later. In Washington, you need to pray someone take Snyder out.

Posted by: oneft2dice | October 13, 2009 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Redskins fans have been boycotting games for about a decade now. The stadium is hardly ever full (even if the tickets have been sold). And when it is full, there are 15,000 fans in the other team's jersey. The evidence of fan disgust has been in front of Snyder's face for ages.

Posted by: Kev29 | October 13, 2009 2:12 PM | Report abuse

The boycott makes no sense. I split season tickets, paid in full before the season, and I will be there 10/26 proudly wearing a Snyder Sucks t-shirt.

Feinstein and his millions may throw away hard-earned cash, but not real people.

I do think there should be some sort of fan protest at the Eagles MNF game. At the start of the second quarter the whole crowd should start chanting

Fire Vinny

or

Snyder Sucks

or

Duke Sucks (Sorry, just getting ready for hoops season. football season is already a wash.)

Posted by: jpfterps | October 13, 2009 2:12 PM | Report abuse

I just ordered the "value" t-shirt. ;-)

Posted by: JamWhitt | October 13, 2009 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Barno1 must be done cleaning Snyders house.

Posted by: oneft2dice | October 13, 2009 2:13 PM | Report abuse

I'll get you started:

"The Redskins are 2-3, just like the Miami Dolphins. So they are just as good as the Dolphins."

There, that's about your speed. Tell us about how the Redskins are just as good as the Dolphins this season.

Posted by: hithere1 | October 13, 2009 2:14 PM | Report abuse

I've had season tickets for 30 years and I've never felt so low. Daniel Snyder has turned this team from one of the most recoginized, honored franchises in the league to a laughing stock. Yes, it is true that a boycott will not hurt Snyder in the pocketbook much, except in the loss of some refreshment dollars. But that's not the point. Thousands of empty seats on Sunday would be a visible display of fan anger for the entire world to see. It would be a first-class embarassment to Snyder and might just get him to rethink the way he is running the team. To those who put down the idea of a boycott, I ask: What else can we do?

Posted by: StevefromSacto | October 13, 2009 2:19 PM | Report abuse

I don't see how any boycott could possibly be more embarrassing than the Steelers game last year when more Pittsburgh people showed up than Redskins fans.

If *that* little debacle didn't get Snyder's attention, why would this?

Posted by: JohnnyRyde | October 13, 2009 2:25 PM | Report abuse

I don't see how you can truly hurt Dan Snyder where it counts without a boycott. This year it won't hurt Snyder much financially, but several thousand empty seats per game will serve as a huge embarassment.

Then next year, don't be foolish enough to blow several thousand dollars on seats for a terrible NFL product that stands no chance at contention for as long as Danny owns the team. Later, rinse, repeat, until changes are made at the top.

If you still want to cheer for the uniforms, and have several thousand dollars of disposable income to burn,,,, by all means continue going to games. But if you're tired of your hometown team being turned into a laughingstock, either do something about it or don't. Everytime you continue to go to a Redskins game you're implicitly saying "I continue to support the onwer as the general manager and talent evaluator for my hometown football team".

It's as simple as that.

Posted by: jbanks979 | October 13, 2009 2:32 PM | Report abuse

"To those who put down the idea of a boycott, I ask: What else can we do?"

Those that don't think you should boycott (Barno) don't want you to "do" anything, they think there's nothing wrong with the team, the coaching, or the Front Office.

Posted by: VTDuffman | October 13, 2009 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Redskins fans have been boycotting games for about a decade now. The stadium is hardly ever full (even if the tickets have been sold). And when it is full, there are 15,000 fans in the other team's jersey. The evidence of fan disgust has been in front of Snyder's face for ages.

Posted by: Kev29 | October 13, 2009 2:12 PM | Report abuse

This is so monumentally stupid I'm not sure why I'm even responding, except to ask: Have you ever been to a Redskins game in your entire life? And do you enjoy just making things up?

Posted by: Barno1 | October 13, 2009 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Now that Barno1 has finally showed, I hope HE can make sense of these numbers:

The Redskins 2 wins came against currently winless teams.
2 losses came against previously winless teams.
4-9 dating back to mid-point of last season.
Team is averaging 14.6 points a game this season. Offense is averaging 13.2 points a game (i.e. throw out the Hunter Smith TD against Giants).
Not a single 100 yard rushing game by any back on the roster this season.
Have not scored 30 points at any time during the Zorn "era."
Campbell sacked 5 times; hurried 4 times; hit 3 times against Carolina.

So Barno1, let the spinning begin! Talk to us now about how great the Redskins are this season. While keeping straight face!

Posted by: hithere1 | October 13, 2009 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Hi there, I'm not sure what the 100 yard significance is. 98 yards is pretty good out of your RB, and we got that last week. Most fans in the rows around my seats thought for sure he had passed the 100 yard mark by the 4th quarter of that game...it just had the feel of a really good running game that day. But 100 is an arbitrary essentially meaningless number.

As for your last bit of sarcasm, well even Barno is having problems staying optimistic with Chris Samuels on the sideline. If we had our entire O-line in tact but were still 2-3, I'd still be able to stay optimistic. But unless we get Pete Kendall in here asap or Samuels back before the Philly game, I'll have a hard time envisioning any of my predictions coming true.

Posted by: Barno1 | October 13, 2009 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Redskins fans have been boycotting games for about a decade now. The stadium is hardly ever full (even if the tickets have been sold). And when it is full, there are 15,000 fans in the other team's jersey. The evidence of fan disgust has been in front of Snyder's face for ages.

Posted by: Kev29 | October 13, 2009 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Season
1998 542,099
1999 619,749
2000 647,424
2001 624,374
2002 643,950
2003 643,817
2004 702,670
2005 716,999
2006 701,049
2007 704,722
2008 708,835

As you can see, attendance has steadily reason every year since Dan Snyder bought the team. 2005 was the only season that stands out in the list bc it was our best year since 99 and some fans will attend only when a team is really good. Other than that, Kev29's claim that fans have been boycotting the team for the last decade is shown to be a ridiculous comment.

Posted by: Barno1 | October 13, 2009 4:08 PM | Report abuse

I don't see how any boycott could possibly be more embarrassing than the Steelers game last year when more Pittsburgh people showed up than Redskins fans.

If *that* little debacle didn't get Snyder's attention, why would this?

Posted by: JohnnyRyde | October 13, 2009 2:25 PM | Report abuse

A) There were not "more" Pittsburgh people at that game than Redskins people...but there were a lot.

B) That, as has been discussed repeatedly, was an anomaly that came as result of several factors:

MNF games are the easiest to get tickets to as regular ticket holders are more likely to put them for sale on ebay, craigslist, stub hub etc because of how late the MNF games are.

The Steelers have a large DC area fan base and the relative proximity to Pittsburgh did not help.

The Steelers had not played in DC in 20 years, creating a high demand for tix to the game amongst Steelers fans.

The Steelers were in the midst of a Super Bowl winning season.

It's a 90K+ seat stadium, you're bound to have lots and lots of tickets available through 3rd party brokers no matter what when there are 90,000 seats.

These were the factors. You're not likely to see an invasion to that extent again in our lifetimes. Seriously.

Posted by: Barno1 | October 13, 2009 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Barno,

The Skins will be lucky to win another game this season.

The offensive line sucks and will not get better with a washed up Pete Kendall.

FedEx gets taken over by opposing fans every time Dallas, Philly, NY, Baltimore and Pittsburgh comes to town.

Posted by: edr04 | October 13, 2009 4:36 PM | Report abuse

I liked the idea I heard on Holden Kushner last night. Everybody walk out on Monday Night Football again the Eagles. Wait until after halftime and Brian Mitchell is inducted, then get up and leave. The Danny will be humiliated on NATIONAL TV.

Posted by: bethesdaguy | October 13, 2009 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Barno,

The Skins will be lucky to win another game this season.

The offensive line sucks and will not get better with a washed up Pete Kendall.

FedEx gets taken over by opposing fans every time Dallas, Philly, NY, Baltimore and Pittsburgh comes to town.

Posted by: edr04 | October 13, 2009 4:36 PM | Report abuse

That's just crazy talk. We won't be going 2-14 this year, sir. No matter how bad you mistakenly think we are.

The line, in its current condition, will be better with Kendall, provided he is in shape. As I said before, he was fine at guard the last 2 years, playing in 32 straight games.

Fed Ex does not get "taken over" every time we play an NFC East team, sorry. Again, that's just crazy talk. There are a lot of Cowboys fans in this area and a disproportionate amount show up to games...but they are far outnumbered by the Skins fans in attendance. Eagles nor Giants fans EVER take over Fed Ex.

Again, I have to assume you don't attend these games...bc you're commenting out of your *ss.

Posted by: Barno1 | October 13, 2009 5:04 PM | Report abuse

A boycott can totally work because Snyder's ego is even bigger than his greed. Having tens of thousands of empty seats makes him look bad in front of the other team owners. He won't be able to stand the embarrassment.

Posted by: lordtwang | October 13, 2009 5:05 PM | Report abuse

I liked the idea I heard on Holden Kushner last night. Everybody walk out on Monday Night Football again the Eagles. Wait until after halftime and Brian Mitchell is inducted, then get up and leave. The Danny will be humiliated on NATIONAL TV.

Posted by: bethesdaguy | October 13, 2009 5:00 PM | Report abuse

You live in a fantasy world.

Posted by: Barno1 | October 13, 2009 5:05 PM | Report abuse

The Steelers were in the midst of a Super Bowl winning season.

It's a 90K+ seat stadium, you're bound to have lots and lots of tickets available through 3rd party brokers no matter what when there are 90,000 seats.

These were the factors. You're not likely to see an invasion to that extent again in our lifetimes. Seriously.

Posted by: Barno1 | October 13, 2009 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Hope you're right. That was a painful time...

Posted by: JohnnyRyde | October 13, 2009 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Barno: could be, but what else does s Redksins fan HAVE these days? Hmmmmm?

Posted by: bethesdaguy | October 13, 2009 5:10 PM | Report abuse

I hear ya. I'm about as optimistic the glass is half full kinda fan as you'll ever come across, and my hope is dangling from a pretty thin thread right now. Only thing keeping me going right now is the hope that Chris Samuels is back by the Philly game. Please God.

Posted by: Barno1 | October 13, 2009 5:26 PM | Report abuse

As a fan of some 52 seasons, first time a fan when Nixon was in charge, no not that Nixon, the other one, Coach Russ Nixon, the Snyderrato regime has quickly turned me to the dark side. That and the despair of having to sell my club seats for 30% of face value (if I'm lucky even to get that). The ticket resale market has fallen even farther and faster than the housing mess.

If you can't see yourself boycotting the entire game and you have to go to Fedex, maybe you can wait until the start of the 2nd quarter at least before you sit. BUT still don't buy any concessions!

Posted by: bbmcoachk | October 13, 2009 5:38 PM | Report abuse

Again, I have to assume you don't attend these games...bc you're commenting out of your *ss.

Posted by: Barno1 | October 13, 2009 5:04 PM | Report abuse

I am an ex-season ticket holder, Barno.

Posted by: edr04 | October 13, 2009 6:01 PM | Report abuse

Don't forget www.firethedanny.com

Posted by: nigt | October 13, 2009 9:23 PM | Report abuse

I am an ex-season ticket holder, Barno.

Posted by: edr04 | October 13, 2009 6:01 PM | Report abuse

So which games did the Giants and Eagles take over our stadium? I'm curious.

Posted by: Barno1 | October 13, 2009 10:09 PM | Report abuse

Boycott!

Posted by: Pepper5 | October 14, 2009 1:51 AM | Report abuse

maybe someone should rent out rfk for sunday's game so we can boycott the game but still watch it together on the jumbotron.

Posted by: jvarner13131 | October 14, 2009 2:12 AM | Report abuse

maybe someone should rent out rfk for sunday's game so we can boycott the game but still watch it together on the jumbotron.

Posted by: jvarner13131 | October 14, 2009 2:12 AM | Report abuse

Yeah give our players no homefield advantage, that'll show 'em!

Dir da dir da dir

Posted by: Barno1 | October 14, 2009 9:47 AM | Report abuse

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