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Redskins ban signs at FedEx Field



Do you see this sign? I fished this sign out of a garbage can outside FedEx Field. It was in the garbage can because there's a new policy that says no signs of any sort are permitted inside the stadium. Even signs sending best wishes to husbands in Afghanistan.

When and why was this change made? I asked Monday morning, and as of Monday evening, a Redskins spokesman said he still wasn't sure. I just know that there was a policy listed on the team's Web site as recently as Oct. 4 that merely banned inappropriate and offensive signs, or something to that effect, and that as of now, that wording is gone.

UPDATE: I found the old wording. You can find it in the Redskins section of most area Yellow pages. Here it is:

Banners

Banners are permitted at FedEx Field; however, Guests may not display banners that advertise or mention products or services. Banners may not cover existing FedEx Field equipment or signage. Signs may not be made with metal or wood. Management reserves the right to remove any sign, including those deemed to be obscene, inappropriate or which obstructs the view of other Guests. For the safety of all Guests, banner poles are not permitted. (emphasis added)

Now, no signs or banners are permitted whatsoever. A spokesman told me that this policy is meant to protect spectators from getting injured by signs, and also to make sure everyone can see the action. Because obstructed views at that stadium could not possibly be tolerated.

One security guard told me the policy went into effect at the beginning of the season. Another told me they were just told about it a few weeks ago. Either way, I can't imagine there was a rash of tragic sign injuries since last season, when I never heard of such a policy.

Now I've feigned a lot of outrage in recent days, outrage over the offensive line, and the GM, and the draft, and whatever else. I mean, that stuff is annoying, but I can live with it. It's still sports. It's still a game. It's still part of the general arc of entertainment provided by large men running around in tights. This, though, ruined it all for me. Now it's no longer a game. Now it's just sad, and unpleasant, and ugly. Read on.





Now it's me snooping through garbage cans to see what signs have been trashed, while a security guard screams at me "Get out of that garbage can! Get out of that garbage can!" I finally backed away, but I still uncovered about a dozen trashed signs, and saw many more that were just too soaked with beer to unveil.





Now it's Ramon Vasquez, making the old standby D and Fence sign for his sister-in-law, who flew in from California and didn't want to bring D and Fence signs on a plane. He was told they weren't allowed.

"I think it's pure [nonsense]," he told me, as he stood outside FedEx and tried to figure out what he should do next. "Everyone else does it. Why can't we show our sportsmanship?"

Now it's Liz Angevine, who brought a "LET OVECHKIN CALL THE PLAYS" sign, e-mailing me this story about how a security guard snatched the sign out of her hands and threw it on the ground. Liz writes:

"When I told her that I wanted to keep my sign and run it back to my car, she stepped on my sign and ripped it apart!!! I could NOT believe it. I'm still in shock."





Now it's Darien Columbel, hiding his inoffensive Halloween-themed sign under his shirt so he could try to get it inside.

"I mean, it's just a poster," when I told him about the policy as he approached security. "We're sick and tired of the games he's playing.





Now it's Jennifer Seedlock, sneaking her "Dumb and Dumber" sign in through the Tailgate Club, so it wouldn't be confiscated.

"They're the two problems," she said, of Snyder and Cerrato.





And sure, she wasn't the only one who kept her sign. These folks got on TV with their sign, showing love. But even some who made it through security then lost their signs inside.

So now it's Mary and Bill Lindsay from Dallas, bringing in a "Bingo Night Football" sign all the way from Texas to the third row, and attracting a crowd of cameras, before security confiscated the sign.

"I think it's ridiculous," Mary said. "A fan coming in with positive emotion should be able to express it at a home game. I'm here to support the team."

"We were just trying to have fun with the whole situation," Bill said. "We weren't trying to dis the Redskins."





And now it's Mike Broderick, a longtime season ticket holder, who came to the Chiefs game with Dumb and Dumber signs, attracting a security official who threatened to seize his season tickets. (See above.) The guard told Broderick he could either go to the security office, leave the stadium, or hand over the signs. So Broderick asked if he could put the image on a t-shirt instead.

"That would be kind of offensive," the security official said.

"It's offensive to come to these games," Broderick said he replied.

Broderick gave up the signs, and came back on Monday Night with new signs hidden under his jacket, and with t-shirts to match. The signs were about to be taken, as NFL Network cameras rolled live, and Broderick showed the security guy the team's old policy, printed in his telephone yellow pages, which he had brought as proof. Policy's been changed, he was told. Eventually, he said, security also made him turn his t-shirt inside-out, calling P.G. cops in for support. He said I could use his name, because his frustration overwhelms any fear of losing his seats.

"I'm to the point where I can't even give the stupid tickets away because people are so frustrated," he said.





Now it's this woman I mentioned Monday night, the one who had a seemingly innocuous blanked wrapped around her neck, which she quickly unveiled to reveal this tape-and-cloth message for the cameras, which she then folded back up into an innocuous burgundy blanket to protect her against the chill. Secret signs made by middle-aged women out of tape and blankets. Seriously.

Now it's fans like Ryan Fitzpatrick getting kicked out of the stadium for an admittedly over-the-top banner, but then getting serenaded with chants of "Free Speech, Free Speech" by people in his section as he leaves.





Now it's this guy in the front row, who asked me to pick up his sign that security had made him drop. I did so. He held it up for me, right until security again came up. Another media member was there as I took this guy's picture, and told me security was gesturing to him to drop the sign.

Now it's someone in the 100 level getting clever after all the signs started disappearing, and holding up a hastily made sign that read "Dan, Why Do We Have to Sneak This Sign In?"

Now it's a 10-year season ticket holder dressed up like Santa, with a Ho Ho Ho Snyder Must Go sign, that was confiscated by security.





Now it's Austin Wiles, e-mailing me a photo of his confiscated sign with one of many rants I've gotten on the topic.

"Just [Sunday] night I saw a guy in New York with an Andy Pennant sign at Yankee Stadium. If the Steinbrenner regime lets people bring in signs while it's outlawed at FedEx, Snyder has got to be.... [edited for taste]. I mean, the guy is literally re-writing the Constitution at his stadium's gates!"

I mean, what are we doing here? What's the purpose? What's the goal? To protect people from getting poked in the eye by poster board? I've never, not once, heard a complaint from someone who couldn't see the game because of a sign. Now, in 24 hours, the complaints about the sign ban are rolling in.

Is it because of the dissent, the Revolution? I have no idea. But if it is, I think the one lesson of such rebellions, in the real world, is that crack downs never work in the long-term. If they don't work for militaristic governments, they're damn sure not going to work for a business that's based on the goodwill of consumers.

All the rest of these signs were taken from garbage cans. I'd have a hard time judging any of them to be offensive, inappropriate, or in any way anathema to the goal of sports as entertainment. But seeing them in the garbage sure managed that trick.










By Dan Steinberg  |  October 27, 2009; 2:03 PM ET
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Comments

I'm thinking a protest outside that dummy's office. I'm getting desperate.

Posted by: hackeynut | October 27, 2009 2:11 PM | Report abuse

David Donovan didn't see any of this.

Posted by: sitruc | October 27, 2009 2:18 PM | Report abuse

i personally like the "why did I have to sneak this sign in" sign

Posted by: ThisGuy | October 27, 2009 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Can't believe I'm missing all of this...

Posted by: littles_ | October 27, 2009 2:25 PM | Report abuse

He's Commodus

Posted by: CrownRoyal1 | October 27, 2009 2:33 PM | Report abuse

This is turning into a business case of how not to run a company.

Snyder is a moron.

Posted by: tarded2much | October 27, 2009 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Because obstructed views at that stadium could not possibly be tolerated.

Steinberg,

This was absolutely priceless... kind of like the 5,000 obstructed view seats Snyder squeezed in a few years back and then duped the fans with.

I am sick to my stomach over the state of this franchise. Losing is one thing, but the actions of this owner make it unbearable.

Posted by: RickyBobby | October 27, 2009 2:35 PM | Report abuse

This is just getting disgusting.

Posted by: JulzDC | October 27, 2009 2:37 PM | Report abuse

I was wondering if anyone else saw the clear Zoom in on the "unconditional love" as the only sign highlighted on last night's broadcast.........

As 88,000 suckers continue to pack the stadium for games, Dan continues to laugh his way to the bank

Posted by: jbanks979 | October 27, 2009 2:37 PM | Report abuse

This is ridiculous
I don't really know why I go to games anymore

Posted by: G20FdaCowboys | October 27, 2009 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Dan

Which lawsuit do you see happening first:

Class action by fans defending their first amendment rights

or....

THe Skins suing you for inciting this undeserved hatred?

Posted by: Leeguru | October 27, 2009 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Snyder doesn't have to care what any of you think: you still watch the games, and that's all he cares about.

Until you and everyone you know stops watching, all the Snyder b.s. will continue indefinitely.

Posted by: christopher_a_metzler | October 27, 2009 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Great post. This is getting out of control.

Posted by: mkremnitzer0 | October 27, 2009 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Snyder doesn't have to care what any of you think: you still watch the games, and that's all he cares about.

How can you say that's "all" he cares about when he and his idiot followers (Vinny, Donovan, Larry Michael, etc) go out of their way to dispute or destroy everything negative thing the WP or Steve Largent or the fans with a measley sign say about them?

Disgusting.

Posted by: RickyBobby | October 27, 2009 2:49 PM | Report abuse

The Campbell Soup sign at the end is made of win.

Posted by: Scott_in_Shaw | October 27, 2009 2:49 PM | Report abuse

It wasn't just signs either. I had a shirt a friend made for us that said "Snyder Sucks" with dollar signs for the "s"s. The security guy said he was told not supposed to let anything in that referred to Snyder. It was an easy fix, I just turned my shirt inside out, but I found it ironic that "Tony Homo" shirts can come in (and sometimes worse), but criticism of Snyder is beyond the pale.

Posted by: Maitiu | October 27, 2009 2:51 PM | Report abuse

I can't wait to watch a real team, with a real owner, play the hockey team from Philly tonight. That is a team that has done things right and supports its fans, not gouges them and stomps on their signs and threatens them when everything that is being said and written is well deserved anyway... GO CAPS! F DAN!

Posted by: RickyBobby | October 27, 2009 2:51 PM | Report abuse

How about turning down the volume of the PA speakers?

Posted by: BO__Stinks | October 27, 2009 2:55 PM | Report abuse

People who like this blog:


How about you buy a subscription to the Washington Post? It is like $20 bucks.


Do it! It allows the Washington Post to remain more objective and free from Snyder.


Just something to think about.

Posted by: CrabHands | October 27, 2009 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Though his actions are reprehensible, Dan Snyder is not bound by the first amendment as a private citizen operating a private facility.

The last I checked though, Prince George's County police officers are agents of the government. Their role in the T-shirt censorship may well be unconstitutional.

Posted by: evwill | October 27, 2009 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Are you [freakin'] kidding me? Smart move. Insulting and pissin' off an already pissed off fan base.

Can you envision $nyder and Cerrato in his office ($nyder shaking uncontrollably on Vinny's lap):

D$: "We are going to be on national TV and the fans are going to be soooo mean to me! {sob} They are going to boo me and have meanie signs! All the other owners are going to see it and laugh at me!"

VC: "Don't worry, buddy. I'll, I'll calls(sic) Donovan and we'll create a new policies(sic) that will ban all signs from the stadium. We'll says(sic) it's for "'safety.'"

D$: {sniff} "Oh, ok. Can I have my chocolate pudding now? I still am worried."

VC: "Sure. Hey, wills (sic) ya feel better if I lays(sic) out the money pile on the floor and you can rolls(sic) around in it?"

D$: "Yeah. That would be great. Don't forget to lay down my 'Fans are suckers! blankie, first."

Posted by: nojunk4me | October 27, 2009 2:56 PM | Report abuse

LA LA LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU

/Snyder

Posted by: theamazingmouse | October 27, 2009 2:58 PM | Report abuse

land of free speech and expression? bad joke. hundreds of people have been detained, searched, interrogated in recent years for wearing antiwar, anti-bush t-shirts to airports; kids busted in school, etc. just when and where do we have freedom of speech in a world owned by corporations?

now i must admit that people foisting pro-war signs at games where i never once saw an antiwar poster was annoying, but, "i may not agree with what someone is saying, but i'll fight to the death their right to say it." might just have to fight to the death, if you know what i mean.

re the lnda whose sign was ripped out of her hands and destoryed by a security guard when all she wanted was to take her possession with her back to her car to save it... she should've gotten the thugs name, charged that goon with assault, theft and wanton destruction of private property. say $10 million settlement?

Posted by: tazdelaney | October 27, 2009 2:58 PM | Report abuse

The most important thing a Redskins fan can do right now other than not spending money on the team is to remove your name from the Season Ticket list. They only treat people like this because they know they *allegedly* have 125,000 people waiting for tickets. I removed my name today.

Posted by: DocHolliday1906 | October 27, 2009 2:59 PM | Report abuse

They don't know you watch on TV if you lie to them when they ask!

Posted by: Section506 | October 27, 2009 3:00 PM | Report abuse

and thus we have the moniker/description of the owner: controlfreak bunker-boy!

Posted by: Max231 | October 27, 2009 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Those signs wouldn't block a little person's view.

Now *THIS* is a sign:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3012/2829666178_9253b0de00.jpg

Posted by: EdTheRed | October 27, 2009 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Dan Snyder purchased the Redskins at age 34. He did not then, and does not now have the maturity to run an NFL franchise. He has never grown up.

I think he is trying to run it like all of his previous companies. Unfortunately, that management style will not work for a football team. I think we have hit a point where there is no place to go but down, because I do not think the owner is capable of realizing his mistakes.

Ask an old Baltimore Colts fan about Bob Irsay. I think in the years to come we will look at Dan Snyder with the same attitude.

Posted by: cbm1 | October 27, 2009 3:02 PM | Report abuse

the skins sort of explained their sign (banner) policy in this article a few weeks ago:

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/sports/Snyder-Steals-Your-Bags-63539812.html

Posted by: felvis | October 27, 2009 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Go Wizards! 5 hours and 25 minutes till tip!

Posted by: Kev29 | October 27, 2009 3:05 PM | Report abuse

I remember the "Unconditional Love" sign. Actually a pretty reasonable/positive sentiment for a pretty bad team.

If you're going to take the trouble to sneak in a sign, then you might as well make it a sign telling Snyder where he can stick it.

Posted by: oldtimehockey | October 27, 2009 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Snyder is a di*k.
I never thought I would stop being a Skins fan, but Ddanny boy is really taking the fun out of it.
Why should anyone give him a red cent for being treated so badly?

Posted by: jeffc6578 | October 27, 2009 3:07 PM | Report abuse

I had season tickets for 40 years and gave them up last season. With all of the required pre-season tickets, parking, and fees, my $79 tickets actually cost $125 per ticket per regular season game.

There is no longer a lengthy season ticket waiting list. Just for grins I put my name on a list in 2007 and was called in 2008 and offered new season tickets. How does that happen?

It's clear that Dan can't take the criticism.

I am Jewish and embarrassed that a fellow tribesman behaves like this.

Posted by: jazzman4 | October 27, 2009 3:09 PM | Report abuse

SORRY FOR THE CAPS BUT THE ONLY THING THAT NUMBSKULL LITTLE MAN SNYDER UNDERSTANDS IS M-O-N-E-Y!!!! HIT WHERE IT HURTS, DON'T PATRONIZE HIS BUSINESS. IN OTHER WORDS, LET HIM HAVE AN EMPTY STADUIM A FEW SUNDAYS AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS! You can complain all you want but he will not even attempt to understand until his bank account begins to shrink. This last thing about banning signs from the stadium should be the straw that broke the camels back. What next, he has already tried banning tailgating or relegating it to some obscure area in the parking lot. This little arrogant man needs to know that without the fans, he has nothing because apparently he doesn't get it!

Posted by: ivyleague | October 27, 2009 3:15 PM | Report abuse

I have NO sympathy for the Deadskins fans... NONE.

As long as they play the fools and continue to pay their money and allow themselves to be serially fleeced (bend over, maybe it will feel better next time?) by this two-bit moron and his utterly incompetent and offensive management team, well... they deserve what they get.

I won't be impressed until the fans are fed up enough to leave 40,000 or 60,000 seats empty week after week, whether they don't buy or just don't show up.

Until then, this is all IMO just crocodile tears ... if the fans care and want some action, they can get off their butts and show some meaningful activism.

Posted by: fendertweed | October 27, 2009 3:16 PM | Report abuse

What's next? Is Danny gonna ban fans conversations of a negative tilt about the Skins while inside the stadium? Is he gonna have the "season ticket holder police" patrolling the bar scene in the area and confiscating PLC's for bad mouthing the Skins? He's a crazy little man, who knows.

Posted by: jacob21703 | October 27, 2009 3:16 PM | Report abuse

It's a private facility that was built with millions in tax breaks and taxpayer money. It's not just the signs, but the entire gameday experience. It takes an hour from Redskins road to your parking spot. The parking attendants either don't speak english or are just waving their orange flags in random directions. The PA system is ridiculously loud. They play commercials during the tv commercial breaks. COMMERCIALS! As a 25 year old who isn't exactly breaking the bank at work, it's no longer worth it to spend my hard earned money on tickets/parking passes/beers.

Posted by: Andymr | October 27, 2009 3:24 PM | Report abuse

BOYCOTT!!!I mean why we cannot boycott the team? I don't even go to the game anymore. Instead, I'm sitting on my big fat easy chair infront of TV. And you can even curse the Dumb Danny and Dumber Vinny. If there are no fans at the stand, then they will think of something.

Posted by: skinsMill | October 27, 2009 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Listening to Cerrato and David Donovan, the Redskins' counsel, on the radio makes me sick. They're so spiteful, completely deluded and entirely terse. The team is so fragile and held together by offseason marketing moves to generate buzz.

It's beyond a shame that they, and Snyder indirectly through their commentary, spout this drivel and undercut Zorn and the coaches. They're simply redirecting the poor decisions they made (e.g., drafting receivers instead of linemen to name one) at the media, which is insulting to fans and the public.

Redskins' ownership and non-football management personnel are complete frauds.

Posted by: buster17 | October 27, 2009 3:26 PM | Report abuse

If true about the PG police, evwill's comments above might have merit .. at least I hope they do. Cops? For a sign policy? Speaking of something that could lead to real trouble.

Also, wasn't a significant amount of public money used for that stadium? I know JKC paid a lot but I don't think he did the infrastructure. Might be an interesting angle there as it appears this is just a thinly (very) veiled attempt to kill speech.

Posted by: tslats | October 27, 2009 3:27 PM | Report abuse

First the BUSH Administration, now THIS............

Posted by: iamasofaking | October 27, 2009 3:30 PM | Report abuse

This.
This is out of control.
I find it hard to believe the NFL would not be interested in this policy, so categorically the antithesis of what being a fan means.
So we were allowed to criticize the players.
We were allowed to throw the coach under a bus.
But all criticism of the GM and owner is banned?
And the owner won't answer questions from the media.
He is a thin-skinned coward on public display.

Posted by: positiveforce | October 27, 2009 3:31 PM | Report abuse

hackeynut,

I 100% agree with you on the protest and would love to be there with you. I live in ashburn so it's not far for me. Seriously, let me know, I'm down.

Posted by: joshgrzymkowski | October 27, 2009 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Please sell the Redskins
Please sell the team
We're on the wrong path
Dan must leave DC

Run then pass then punt
the offense can't score
Where players come to quit
cuz Danny pays more

Snyder is scum
Vinny too dumb
Get out of washington!
Rah Rah Rah!

Please sell the Redskins
Please sell the team
We're on the wrong path
Dan must leave DC!

Posted by: ZeroHero0 | October 27, 2009 3:31 PM | Report abuse

I am a longtime Redskins season ticket holder and after seeing how the Redskins have been treating their fans, I am truly embarassed and ashamed to be a Redskins fan. No matter how bad things get, a team cannot treat its fans as the enemy. The team, its management, and its security personnel should be ashamed of themselves for promoting a policy of intimidation and censorship. I feel sorry for the players and coaches and hope that one day they will find their way to a winning franchise. While I am (was?) a diehard fan, considering how this franchise has been operated for the past ten years, I think the team deserves to lose and will continue to do so.

Posted by: mnightyoungster | October 27, 2009 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Get ready fans...drum roll please....

Snyder is gonna be around for the next 30-40 years.

He's not going to sell the team, no way, no how.

As long as it remains a profitable franchise, he's not going away.

Get ready for an eternity as the NFL's laughingstock.

Posted by: jsmith33351 | October 27, 2009 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Anyone up for a picket?

Posted by: DocHolliday1906 | October 27, 2009 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Class-action? any lawyers out there?

hehehehe

Posted by: Max231 | October 27, 2009 3:34 PM | Report abuse

I didn't think that there would be any more reasons to dislike the Redskins. They must be operating under the Bizarro school of management - up is down/black is white/ do everything you can to screw your customer, etc.

Posted by: loved1 | October 27, 2009 3:35 PM | Report abuse

My brothers and I had the word "BINGO!" printed on 6 - 16" x 16" sign boards (hoping to hold them up when we finally scored a TD) that were folded in half so that we could sit on them when we weren’t using them and they were taken away at the gate……We’ve been going to skin’s games since we were kids and are second generation season ticket holders going back to Griffith Stadium…..If the ownership of this team doesn’t start doing something for the fans besides gouging them at every turn ($6.00 hot dog & $6.00 coke) we will not be back next year….

Posted by: calhere | October 27, 2009 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Though his actions are reprehensible, Dan Snyder is not bound by the first amendment as a private citizen operating a private facility.

"The last I checked though, Prince George's County police officers are agents of the government. Their role in the T-shirt censorship may well be unconstitutional.

Posted by: evwill | October 27, 2009 2:56 PM | Report abuse "


Good point EVWILL!

Posted by: 123cartoon | October 27, 2009 3:37 PM | Report abuse

UVA banned signs a few years ago after one of Al Groh's typical Septembers. Shirts were made that read, "This shirt is not a sign" and chests were painted, "My chest is not a sign." Its all so ridiculous..

Posted by: colerwilson | October 27, 2009 3:37 PM | Report abuse

This Redskins ownership--what is it but a tradition, though a recent one, endeavoring to transmit itself unimpaired to posterity, but each instant losing some of its integrity? It has not the vitality and force of a single living man; for a single man can bend it to his will. It is a sort of wooden gun to the people themselves. But it is not the less necessary for this; for the people must have some complicated machinery or other, and hear its din, to satisfy that idea of ownership which they have.

Owners show thus how successfully men can be imposed upon, even impose on themselves, for their own advantage. It is excellent, we must all allow. Yet this owner never of himself furthered any enterprise, but by the alacrity with which he got out of the way.

How does it become a man to behave toward the Redskins today? I answer, that he cannot without disgrace be associated with it.

All men recognize the right of revolution; that is, the right to refuse allegiance to, and to resist, the team, when its tyranny or its inefficiency are great and unendurable. But almost all say that such is not the case now... If one were to tell me that this was a bad ownership because it banned certain items brought into its stadium, it is most probable that I should not make an ado about it, for I can do without them. All machines have their friction; and possibly this does enough good to counter-balance the evil. At any rate, it is a great evil to make a stir about it.

But when the friction comes to have its machine, and oppression and robbery are organized, I say, let us not have such a machine any longer. In other words, when a sixth of the fans of a team which has undertaken to be the class of the NFL are expelled from games, or sued, and a whole team is unjustly overrun and conquered by a foreign army of accountants, lawyers, and yes-men, and subjected to business law, I think that it is not too soon for honest men to rebel and revolutionize. What makes this duty the more urgent is that fact that the team so overrun is not our own, but ours is the invading army.

REDSKINS ARMY.

Posted by: wbbradb | October 27, 2009 3:37 PM | Report abuse

seriously, anyone who buys a ticket now is an idiot (unless they're an opposing team's fan) and anyone who currently has paid money for tkts needs to stop going to the games. Nothing better than seeing 50000 empty seats in a stadium. Nothing can hide that, not even the gestapo nazi that owns this team. What a fukking tool

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 27, 2009 3:37 PM | Report abuse

This is EXACTLY what is wrong with the Redskins. A perfect example of the "leadership" style that Mr Snyder employs and a prime example of why the team will never improve until he gets a GM and his nose out of the day to day operations.

Posted by: yodude1 | October 27, 2009 3:38 PM | Report abuse

"Hi to my husband in Afghanistan, love you"

So the Redskins think that sentiment belongs in a rubbish bin. That makes me very sad. Especially around here, f*&$%n with those who serve and their families is just not an acceptable consequence of this mickey mouse crackdown.

Thanks for capturing that image, Steinz.

Posted by: TheBoreaucrat | October 27, 2009 3:38 PM | Report abuse

The only way to protest is with your feet and your wallet.
Period.

Danny is a dictator, and if he thinks stifling free expression will stop the criticism then he is seriously delusional.

Posted by: jiboo | October 27, 2009 3:39 PM | Report abuse

In a word, combined with the tee shirt fiasco, unbelievable.

I went to my first Skins game in 1967 and my last one four years ago. I don't regret abandoning the FedEx ship, but I wish the S.S. Redskins could be righted...How can senior mgmt not see the mess they have made (are continuting to make?) Jeez...Never mind the play calling, can anybody out there play offensive tackle?

Posted by: equisport1 | October 27, 2009 3:41 PM | Report abuse

What really sucks is that channels 4,5,7 and 9 won't run with these stories because they live in fear of Snyder pulling their credentials. That little dictator wields alot of power in this town. Kudos to the Post and 106.7 The Fan for giving us the straight facts.

Posted by: CHICO13 | October 27, 2009 3:43 PM | Report abuse

rather than spend money on his football team, why not contribute to a fund so the little guy can buy some of those manhood extender pills

Posted by: TGT11 | October 27, 2009 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Snyder is pathetic -

Posted by: mjwies11 | October 27, 2009 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone know whether the NFL/Goddell have commented on any of this?

Posted by: Section416akatheAlps | October 27, 2009 3:45 PM | Report abuse

EVERYONE GO HERE AND CONTACT THE NFL WITH YOUR MESSAGE----

Roger.Goodell2@nfl.net (hope this was the right address, found it on the net)

this is what I wrote. Feel free to use or construct your own.
"The Washington Redskins under Dan Snyder have committed nothing short of an atrocity towards their fans by forcing fans to either dump negative signs against the ownership/mgmt or be kicked out of the stadium and/or arrested. They used Prince George's County police to help accomplish this goal on Monday Night Football. They forced fans to remove their shirts which had signs, they forced other fans to dump their signs, even signs that had nothing to do with the ownership (i.e. best wishes to a soldier in Afghanistan). They did this under the pretense of unobstructed views for their fans. That's garbage. They did it because of the negative backlash from their fans against management. The NFL cannot turn a blind eye to this. The Nation's Capital is using fascism to control their fanbase."

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 27, 2009 3:47 PM | Report abuse

one day, many, many years from now, after one ridiculous move after another, Dan will get it right, and he will be the hero he dreams to be

Posted by: RD0000 | October 27, 2009 3:47 PM | Report abuse

The "Dumb and Dumberer" sign of Snyder and Cerrato is PRICELESS!!!! ROFL!!!

Posted by: carterm1 | October 27, 2009 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Danny, you took the fans money and basked in their cheers .. fair enough. But you screwed up here, you know it; so now take your medicine and move on.

Posted by: tslats | October 27, 2009 3:50 PM | Report abuse

This is unbelievable! I guess the only alternative is anti-Snyder/Vinnie tee-shirts. Maybe some hot chicks can wear them and dare the security guards to make them take them off!

Posted by: StevefromSacto | October 27, 2009 3:50 PM | Report abuse

@wbbradb --- WTF are you trying to say? That was completely incomprehensible pseudo-pompous gibberish.

Redskins Army? OK, do something... get yer damn team back, LOL.

Posted by: fendertweed | October 27, 2009 3:53 PM | Report abuse

What's next, getting kicked out for booing the terrible play? Getting blacklisted for not buying enough at the concession stands? Loyalty oaths?

Newsflash: nothing is more damning than those vast tracts of empty seats. There were even open blocks on MNF! Never thought I would see the day when you couldn't give away Redskins tickets, but Snyder & Co. have worked extremely hard to get us there. Before the end, they'll probably be busing in seat-filler scabs like at the Oscars.

Every fan has a breaking point. And every fan has a long memory. The black eye Snyder has given to this franchise will linger for generations.

Posted by: zippyspeed | October 27, 2009 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Gee, I feel safe knowing security is so busy looking for empty paper bags and cardboard signs that they'll overlook something worthy of more attention. Say, a weapon or explosive device. But then again, management's priorities are rarely in the right place.

Posted by: JMB111 | October 27, 2009 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Dan,

I just Googled: Redskins banned and then clicked on "News". The first link is to this bog complete with your picture!! You're famous now!

Posted by: Dougmacintyre | October 27, 2009 4:00 PM | Report abuse

If bin Laden and Snyder were in a fight to the death, who would you root for?

Posted by: bflorhodes | October 27, 2009 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Is Danny-boy gonna look at FedEx in a couple years and think of Peter Angelos looking out at 30,000 empty seats at Camden yards, saying "wha happened?"

Posted by: 1of9000 | October 27, 2009 4:04 PM | Report abuse

@fendertweed--Civil Disobedience, Henry David Thoreau (slightly modified).

Posted by: wbbradb | October 27, 2009 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Danny is a small and petty man,

Posted by: wiatrol | October 27, 2009 4:05 PM | Report abuse

What about 80,000 fans chanting "Snyder Sucks" at the next home game?

Posted by: wiatrol | October 27, 2009 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Angelos looks enlightened compared to Snyder, at least if you pay him he lets you bring in a sign and he saves his lawsuits for asbestos manufacturers, not the team's fans

Posted by: TGT11 | October 27, 2009 4:08 PM | Report abuse

evwill said:

"Though his actions are reprehensible, Dan Snyder is not bound by the first amendment as a private citizen operating a private facility."

This is correct. They have the authority to prohibit and confiscate signs.

"The last I checked though, Prince George's County police officers are agents of the government. Their role in the T-shirt censorship may well be unconstitutional."

I'm not so sure about this one. Because it is a private facility, if you cause problems by disobeying their (legal) rules, the police may be authorized to make you leave or discontinue the activity (in this case bringing in signs). But again, I'm not 100% sure.

Posted by: mytwocents | October 27, 2009 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Snyder blows goats! I have proof!

Posted by: WildBill1 | October 27, 2009 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Just e-mailed the link to this bog to Peter King @ SI - his Tuesday QB focused on bad teams like the Skins. Asked for his take on it, for what it's worth...

Posted by: Section416akatheAlps | October 27, 2009 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Dan can do this because he owns the stadium/team and can enforce any policy he wants. I just hope that no one takes it out on security. They're just doing their job.
I think protests are in order now that he's taken that right from the stadium, but in the end who cares, it's just a bunch of overpaid guys running around after an odd shaped ball.
I do love the Redskins and hope for a quick return to their glory. I still blame Jack Kent Cooke for this whole debacle.

Posted by: bbirdy202 | October 27, 2009 4:12 PM | Report abuse

HEELARIOUS...BUT SAD!!!!

Posted by: dpena75 | October 27, 2009 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Shame on you, Snyder. Suing your fans and now this. My hatred of you is starting to overtake my love of the Redskins.

Posted by: drischord | October 27, 2009 4:13 PM | Report abuse

This is awful. I don't see why anyone would want to go to FedEx Field to see a game.

I hope the good reporters at the Washington Post, and the Baltimore Sun, and the Associated Press, et cetera, make a legitimate front-sports-page story that it needs to be.

I love the Redskins, but geez, it's just a game. If you're going to ban all signs, you've just banned a great deal of fun and humor that comes from watching a game live. And, you've prompted a lot of awkward confrontations between security people (who are just trying to make a living) and fans (who just want to be a part of the Redskins).

Sure, it's legal to do, but why do it? You've already sued season-ticket holders, so why bother completely alienating your fan base?

Bizarre.

Posted by: Meepo | October 27, 2009 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Now this moron $nyder wants to take away our freedom of speech? If Redskin fans attend the next home game regardless of the investment, than you are part of this very sad development. I think $nyder needs to step up to the microphone like a man and apologize for his behavior.

Posted by: hessone | October 27, 2009 4:20 PM | Report abuse

I like the idea someone had to call the team "The Shyderattos" to pay homage to how those two executives have laid waste to this once-proud franciise. Tne name "Redskins" summons up the images of Slinging Sammy Baugh, Bobby Mitchell, Charlie Taylor, Sonny and Billy, The Over the Hill Gang, Joe/Mark/Doug, Riggo and the Hogs, Art Monk-- you get my point. These guys deserved the name Redskins. The owner and his "GM" Cerratto have forfeited the right to use the name. So let's call the team "The
Snyderattos."

Posted by: wevans3 | October 27, 2009 4:21 PM | Report abuse

What about 90,000 fans all getting up to "go to the restroom" at a predetermined time? Say, 6 minutes into the 2nd quarter? Too early to have already left and too late for everyone to be getting to the game.

Go to the concession area (don't buy anything), watch on TV for a few minutes and then return to your seats with 5 min left in the half and finish watching the game.

A nice, silent, walkout protest that will be visible to everyone watching on TV. No signs, chants, shirts needed. Just a ton of empty seats on live TV as the cameras zoom in on Snyder since he'll be the only one left watching.

Posted by: countystyle | October 27, 2009 4:23 PM | Report abuse

My dissatisfaction with the ownership of this team is definatly starting to outweigh my love of the team.

Posted by: skinsfaninIndy | October 27, 2009 4:24 PM | Report abuse

HEELARIOUS...BUT SAD!!!!

Posted by: dpena75 | October 27, 2009 4:12 PM

We're talking about freedom of speech here folks. And I haven't heard a ligitimate reason why one can't take a sign into the stadium to begin with.

Posted by: hessone | October 27, 2009 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Not sure if someone mentioned this already, but who cued the fight song after a 2nd Quarter punt? Also, nearly lost it when the PA announced the play of the second half being a seemingly innocuous 8yd gain by Fred Davis.

Posted by: JimBagel | October 27, 2009 4:25 PM | Report abuse

"I'm not so sure about this one. Because it is a private facility, if you cause problems by disobeying their (legal) rules, the police may be authorized to make you leave or discontinue the activity (in this case bringing in signs). But again, I'm not 100% sure."

I'm addressing a specific charge that the police helped make a fan turn a t-shirt (not a sign) inside out. There's no evidence of any written Redskins rule against a non-profane T-shirt.

Posted by: evwill | October 27, 2009 4:25 PM | Report abuse

C'mon folks, we all know that the most successful businesses get that way by suing and roughing up their customers. /s

Posted by: acoberst1 | October 27, 2009 4:26 PM | Report abuse

The Truth Hurts.

Posted by: millineumman | October 27, 2009 4:29 PM | Report abuse

The Truth Hurts.

Posted by: millineumman | October 27, 2009 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Absurd.

Posted by: JBuss | October 27, 2009 4:30 PM | Report abuse

The answer is simple folks, boycott the next home game:

Nov 15 v. Broncos.

An empty stadium will force national attention on Dictator Dan's new "safety" policy.

Posted by: Tweaked | October 27, 2009 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Wow, just wow! Are signs allowed in other stadiums for other teams? I mean, this is just ridiculous! There is no way to salvage this relationship with the fans! DIVORCE NOW!

Posted by: JohnWWW | October 27, 2009 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Re: Sign Seizures

One of the attorneys -- c'mon, we all know you're out there -- may want to do a little LEXIS research into something that happened at a baseball game in Yankee Stadium in (I believe) the 1980s. Someone brought a derogatory "Steinbrenner (stinx)" poster to the game; that was then seized and destroyed by NYPD. The original Yankee Stadium was private property, too, but Boss George and New York each wound up paying a six-figure settlement for being ultimately responsible for the orders that caused a government agent (the police officer) to violate that signbearer's First Amendment rights.

Posted by: greggwiggins | October 27, 2009 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Now, no signs or banners are permitted whatsoever. A spokesman told me that this policy is meant to protect spectators from getting injured by signs, and also to make sure everyone can see the action. Because obstructed views at that stadium could not possibly be tolerated.

Only if the sawed-off midget installs more seating at the stadium will obstructed views be tolerated. And watch out for those killer paper cuts. WTF $nyder?

Posted by: hessone | October 27, 2009 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Snyder needs to be Tar and feathered run out of town....

Posted by: LongTimeSkinsFan | October 27, 2009 4:33 PM | Report abuse

It's "Fed Ex Field"-- so why aren't people organizing an effort to convince Fed Ex that they shuold not support suppression of free speech at any arena or stadium that carries the Fed Ex name.

I think Fed Ex is a publicly traded company--one with an annual meeting. Find a small Fed Ex shareholder to submit a resolution for consideration in connection with the next annual meeting-- a resolution that supports the fans' rights at any public sports facility with a Fex Ex name.

I presume that the numbers of people upset over this far outnumber the Redskins organization as to which group uses Fed Ex regularly at a higher level. Big public companies do not like controverssies. FedEx may not even be aware yet of what happened, and Fed Ex might--might-- be a voice that Snyder must recognize and answer over this issue.

Posted by: wevans3 | October 27, 2009 4:36 PM | Report abuse

boycott the skins.

Posted by: californicationdude | October 27, 2009 4:40 PM | Report abuse

What about 80,000 fans chanting "Snyder Sucks" at the next home game?

Uhhh,
I think the fans that attended the last game don't get your message. But maybe, just maybe they will understand mine:

BOYCOTT ALL THINGS $NYDER-FIRE BUG EYES!!!
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Posted by: hessone | October 27, 2009 4:40 PM | Report abuse

i will give someone $100 who can sneak sign(s) in our next home.

Posted by: MYPOST10 | October 27, 2009 4:45 PM | Report abuse

All I can say is wow... I was a fan, not so sure anymore. It is difficult to support a team that sues their ticket holders. In the past I had thought about buying season tickets, somebody was looking out for me when I chose not to!

Posted by: cassiesue | October 27, 2009 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Do the Prince George's County Police officers & the Maryland State Troopers get paid by Dan Snyder or the government? If they are paid by Snyder and moonlighting perhaps they should not trample the Constitution in uniform and should simply wear "Redskins Security" T-Shirts. If they are paid by the government why are they wasting time with people who have signs instead of quieting fights or stopping drunk drivers on the way out of the stadium?

If Snyder directly pays officers they should not wear their government agency uniforms. If Snyder pays the government for their services or the government provides the officers for free they should wear their uniforms and not trample the Constitution.

Either way Snyder is now looking even more foolish that he has to rewrite stadium policy to prevent his billion dollar feelings from being hurt.

Posted by: jpeltdc | October 27, 2009 4:47 PM | Report abuse

This is a complete embarrassment. They have made our proud franchise a laughing stock. If Dan can't handle the heat, then he should get the hell out of the kitchen. The 'Skins are only his toy to play with because we support them with our heart, soul and wallets. He better wise the freak up!

Posted by: apbaintl | October 27, 2009 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Something needs to be done. Snyder has gone way over the line. Walk to concourse, boycott, or whatever. We need to do something. I am very close to giving up me season tickets over this. I cannot support such a maniacal idiot. You jumped the shark, Danny.

Posted by: croftonpost | October 27, 2009 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Sell the skins and bring in another team!!!!!

Posted by: MYPOST10 | October 27, 2009 4:50 PM | Report abuse

I will give someone $100 to sneak in sign(s) at our next game...

Posted by: MYPOST10 | October 27, 2009 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Lets all ban next home game...

Posted by: MYPOST10 | October 27, 2009 4:56 PM | Report abuse

First the BUSH Administration, now THIS............

Posted by: iamasofaking | October 27, 2009 3:30 PM

Every comment so far has been directed at $nyder and his lynch men. Then along comes a left wing genius to enlighten us. Way to go you moron.

Posted by: hessone | October 27, 2009 4:57 PM | Report abuse

My brothers and I had the word "BINGO!" printed on 6 - 16" x 16" sign boards (hoping to hold them up when we finally scored a TD) that were folded in half so that we could sit on them when we weren’t using them and they were taken away at the gate……We’ve been going to skin’s games since we were kids and are second generation season ticket holders going back to Griffith Stadium…..If the ownership of this team doesn’t start doing something for the fans besides gouging them at every turn ($6.00 hot dog & $6.00 coke) we will not be back next year….

Can we allow this to happen to our fellow Redskin fans? Or are we going to fight back and demand our basic rights as Americans. Stand up for your rights and make your voice heard. Let the office of the NFL know how you feel via email. And BOYCOTT $NYDER at all cost.

Posted by: hessone | October 27, 2009 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Hey, Season Ticket Holders, this may be your chance to legally get out of your contract. Examine closely the terms of your season contract. If there is no language saying that the Redskins reserve the right to change the terms of this contract at any time while NOT mentioning the purchasers right to be notified and opt out, you probably have legal standing to drop your season ticket contract. of course, be prepared for Dumber and Dumber to sic the suits on you.

Posted by: sasquatchbigfoot | October 27, 2009 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Since they're only looking for signs; I suggest bringing weapons and whiskey bottles in to the game.

Then get drunk and riot. When security shows up, just $%#^ them all up. That should make ole' danny happy that they kept the signs out.

Posted by: Heerman532 | October 27, 2009 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Now, no signs or banners are permitted whatsoever. A spokesman told me that this policy is meant to protect spectators from getting injured by signs, and also to make sure everyone can see the action. Because obstructed views at that stadium could not possibly be tolerated.

REALLY!! Then why do you sell seats with obstructed views. BOYCOTT THE SKINS

Posted by: mattphillips | October 27, 2009 5:12 PM | Report abuse

While thier at it ban all the terrible towels that made it in last year because "The BOY WONDER" keeps disrespecting what has long since been Tradition in Washington, THE WAITING LIST. I can respect the list but selling tickets at Stub Hub to the highest bidder is what keeps the little people like myself from attempting to come to the house that JACK built, forget what you call it now.
It was bad when you tried to stop tailgating. I was appalled to find out that in these tough economic times you want to sue longtime fans. Let's not forget the ten dollar surcharge on every ticket for parking even if I take metro.
Instead of building on a part of the team that was solid you should have spent more money on your paremedics for an offensive line.(All thier good for is picking up whoever they should have blocked for.)
Thank you Daniel Snyder. I now have baseball season to look forward to.

Posted by: elbriscoe | October 27, 2009 5:13 PM | Report abuse

The Redskins spokesman said "this policy is meant to protect spectators from getting injured by signs." This is the same "public safety" rationale that the Redskins used to close the sidewalks leading up to FedExField (a decision which, fortunately, was overturned by the P.G. County Courts).

Posted by: hoya91 | October 27, 2009 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Maybe it's time to boycott the games or at least stop buying any products inside the stadium if you have to attend...

Posted by: tdl62 | October 27, 2009 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Boy, I miss Jack Kent Cooke!

Posted by: meldupree | October 27, 2009 5:17 PM | Report abuse

A lot of great comments here but I think Meepo, above, nailed it. It is just a game.

Posted by: tslats | October 27, 2009 5:18 PM | Report abuse

This is reminiscent of the scene at the end of ANIMAL HOUSE where Kevin Bacon stands admist a RIOTOUS FRENZY and screams "ALL IS WELL!!!!"

Posted by: iamasofaking | October 27, 2009 5:20 PM | Report abuse

Why not contact ESPN with this story they would enjoy love/hate story.. better yet why not call 1-212-450-2000 and ask to leave a message with the comish !!

Posted by: TrulyIndy | October 27, 2009 5:29 PM | Report abuse

not dumb and dumber; it is dumb and dumbest. these two clowns are idiots who believe their own s#%@

Posted by: Phillip258 | October 27, 2009 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Obviously, Snyder couldn't just confiscate the signs critical of him or mgmt, so he had to confiscate all. Ironically, in our nation's capital!

Posted by: trblmkr1 | October 27, 2009 5:32 PM | Report abuse

A lot of great comments here but I think Meepo, above, nailed it. It is just a game.

Posted by: tslats | October 27, 2009 5:18 PM

Think twice my friend. I think freedom of speech is at issue on this one. How about you?

Posted by: hessone | October 27, 2009 5:33 PM | Report abuse

I am old enough to remember when the redskins were a class organization run by folks who knew what they were doing. They weren't perfect and they made some mistakes.. but you used to be proud of them. Now you have these two clowns who haven't got a clue; it just proves that you can have all the money in the world and still be low rent.

Posted by: Phillip258 | October 27, 2009 5:34 PM | Report abuse

As a former exec in the org, what is going on there is consistent with the "best practices" of how those people have always run their business. What they are doing to Zorn is typical: humiliate and hope the coach resigns because they are too cheap to man up and pay his full contract.

As for the "safety and unobstructed views" comments, that is just priceless - refelects the current ownership/management view that they are just that much smarter than everyone else.

I've got real life answers to anything you ever wondered about what really is going on there. Just post and ask . . . I'll answer with the truth if I know

Posted by: sva2 | October 27, 2009 5:38 PM | Report abuse

Banning signs to protect fans, but not enforcing rules of open glass bottles or public drunkenness.

Sounds like skulduggery - welcome to Redskinsgate!

Posted by: atidwell | October 27, 2009 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Better, it's SNYDERGATE!

Posted by: atidwell | October 27, 2009 5:42 PM | Report abuse

not a season ticket holder, only get to go to one game a year but I LOVE the Skins...this whole crackdown on critisism thing is driving me crazy, ITS THE FANS TEAM!!!! without us it doesnt exist, how dare you censor us

Posted by: PAskinsfan4 | October 27, 2009 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Stop going to games.
Stop buying merchandise.
Tell your friends and family to do the same.

Why do you put up with this crap from the team? Ditch the emotional attachment and remind yourself...it's just a football team.

Posted by: Section315 | October 27, 2009 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Questions about PG County police enforcing this policy might best be directed to
Ed Talik, Lieutenant at Prince George's County Police Department.

Questions about FedEx having their name on a building from which people are thrown out for peacefully voicing displeasure might best be be directed at Laurie Tucker, Sr Vice President - Corporate Marketing at FedEx Services (http://www.linkedin.com/pub/laurie-tucker/6/747/b43)

Posted by: philreed1231 | October 27, 2009 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Really bright Danny Boy!! Let's see how many tickets you sell now!! The NFL should establish a rule that kids -- regardless of the amount of money they have in their pockets -- CANNOT BUY A NFL TEAM!!

PS: Anybody miss Jack Kent Cooke?????

Posted by: wheeljc | October 27, 2009 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Danny,
Where do you get off telling someone who paid your ticket prices to attend a Skins game what signs they can or cannot hold up?
Could you show just a fraction of class and let the fans get it out of their system? It might even make the game a little interesting. Some of these fans have been with the Skins long before you were around and they will be there when you are long gone! Perhaps we are getting down to the root of the problem ON the field.

Posted by: menopausequeen | October 27, 2009 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Free speech!!!!
Boycott Redskins until they decide America is a good thing.

Posted by: dottydo | October 27, 2009 5:58 PM | Report abuse

Hello Fellow Die Hard Redskin fans. I am a die hard Redskins fan that now lives in San Diego. I am a season ticket holder and go to about 3 games at home each year. The team that has been put on the field is an absolute disgrace. This happens year after year. There is only one person at fault here. This man is Daniel Snyder. It is time that tell the world how we feel about this man. I have an idea of putting up a billboard in the Washington DC area. I have called a company and gotten it approved. I want the billboard to say “The only one who should be fired is you Dan Snyder.” This billboard costs at least $3000. I want to raise money to put this up. I need your help of ways to do this. Again this needed approval and it has gotten it. I just need to pay for this. Please help raise money. I need ideas of how to do this. Lets come together and SHOW Dan Snyder how we feel. Please email me your ideas. This needs to be done. Sg1123383@aol.com

“THE ONLY ONE WHO SHOULD BE FIRED IS YOU DAN SNYDER”

Posted by: sgininger | October 27, 2009 5:59 PM | Report abuse

I pity any poor schmuck who has had the bad luck to be a redskins fan. Your team will suck until your owner goes broke and sells the team to someone with a brain. You can help this process along by boycotting anything associated with the NFL's worst team...

Posted by: jerkhoff | October 27, 2009 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Mr.$nyder,
You can't prohibit what I am going to post right here and right now. Freedom of Speech is something our brave men and women from every brach of our military have and will defend with their lives. So if you have a beef with someones opinion and you disagree remember the only reason you're capable of making that choice is God and country. So don't try to strip a fellow American of his/her rights. I suggest you hold a press conference and apologize to all Americans for your feeble attempt to censor our true feelings. You are a cowardly man that hides from the truth.

BOYCOTT SNYDER-SEMPER FIDELIS

Posted by: hessone | October 27, 2009 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Here's what you can do: refuse to patronize businesses that are "official" Redskins sponsors. It's not much but it may help, if those businesses drop their sponsorships. It's sort of like economic sanctions. It worked on Apartheid, and no one thought it would.

Posted by: Hobbes3 | October 27, 2009 6:07 PM | Report abuse

This just in: CHEESE SANDWICHES at Fed-Ex field will now be sold for NINE BUCKS!!!

Posted by: iamasofaking | October 27, 2009 6:16 PM | Report abuse

This is the tactics of Stalin and Mao! ANd it shows Danny-Thug's True Colors (and they ain't burgandy and gold). Danny just said to every Redskins fan what Ryan Fitzgerald's sign said: "Redskins Fans go [deleted] yourself. There is only one way to stop Snyder's nonsense: Stop. Going. To. The. Games! Total boycott - no tickets, no parphanlia, no jerseys, no TV viewership, no nothing!

Posted by: dre7861 | October 27, 2009 6:22 PM | Report abuse

A paper bag cannot be construed as a sign. It's apparel. If you go, take one and wear it.

Better yet, don't go at all. No one's view will be obstructed in an empty stadium, Danny boy.

I don't even follow football, but I sure have a lot of solidarity with the Redskins fans in their agony. The Snyder regime ranks right up there among the worst sports franchise management of all time in any sport. The only way to get your team back is to revolt.

[PS: When you get it back, please change the name.]

Posted by: IceNine | October 27, 2009 6:25 PM | Report abuse

"Where they ban signs, eventually they will ban people.." Oh wait, that's a different saying... If you're gonna be charged $10 for a beer you should be allowed to display a reasonable sign...

Posted by: randysbailin | October 27, 2009 6:31 PM | Report abuse

Don't have to worry about my signs... I ain't going til they FIRE VINNY!

Posted by: tony325 | October 27, 2009 6:34 PM | Report abuse

"Is it because of the dissent, the Revolution? I have no idea. But if it is, I think the one lesson of such rebellions, in the real world, is that crack downs never work in the long-term. If they don't work for militaristic governments, they're damn sure not going to work for a business that's based on the goodwill of consumers."

Agree that this is very bad business. But this DOES work for militaristic (authoritarian) governments. China is one example (I've lived there, I know). North Korea is another (I have not lived there, but it has endured in it's present form since the 1940s).

Posted by: hithere1 | October 27, 2009 6:35 PM | Report abuse

Snyder is running the Redskins like his non sports business. This just shows he has no business running a sports team.
1. First it starts with not allowing fans to walk to the stadium from the old Landover mall parking lot. The reason given was that it was not safe. So we are to believe that PG county builds unsafe sidewalks? Try taking them to court over that.
2. Then we had an exit off an interstate highway that could only be used eight weeks a year when there was a professional football game at FedEx. Did Synder pay for this exit or did the people of PG county pay for it?
3. The Redskins are suing season ticket holders who want/need to turn in their season tickets while we are being told that there are over a thousand people WAITING for season tickets. Does this make good business sense?
4. So now a tradition that is as old a football itself (protesting a bad team or owner)is being outlawed at FedEx. It's not like the sign carryers snuck into FedEx.

The Redskins have one of the most loyal fan base in all of football. If something is done soon you're going to see fewer season tickets being sold, a half empty stadium, and Dan Synder theatening to move the team to DC or Virgina.

Posted by: Jimof1913 | October 27, 2009 6:39 PM | Report abuse

Everyone should paste their signs all over the beltway overhangs; let’s see how far Mr. Wonderful arms really stretch. Or, instead of buying Redskins memorabilia for Christmas, let’s do some shirts, mugs, hats and pens against our beloved owner. We could come up with a whole new line of Redskin items.

Posted by: danny_let-my-people-go | October 27, 2009 6:45 PM | Report abuse

The people who write these rules and/or those who complain about the signs must be the same people who float down the river on an innertube and complain when they get wet.

Posted by: YRichards | October 27, 2009 6:46 PM | Report abuse

Can I still bring a paper bag to cover my head?

Posted by: yo_tamon | October 27, 2009 6:46 PM | Report abuse

The people who write these rules and/or those who complain about the signs must be the same people who float down the river on an innertube and complain when they get wet.

Posted by: YRichards | October 27, 2009 6:47 PM | Report abuse

The question should be - will theyt be banning paper bags?

Posted by: jbentley4 | October 27, 2009 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Here is an idea. As a show of solidarity, I think every disgruntled fan should make a sign similar to the ones that were confiscated about the displeasure of Snyder and Cerrato, and post them on YOUTUBE and FACEBOOK. Pass the word and watch the number of hits skyrocket. It will take a while for "ole Danny Boy" to censor that. If the hits reach a million, which is possible, it would speak volumes to our cause.

Posted by: nupe0588 | October 27, 2009 6:52 PM | Report abuse

PAINT YOUR BODIES!

Posted by: dabrijo | October 27, 2009 7:01 PM | Report abuse

I remember the "Bring Baseball to DC" sign for years in RFK during (the real) Redskins games.

How about a "Bring Football Back to DC" sign in Nationals Park?

Posted by: beatlemaniacs | October 27, 2009 7:04 PM | Report abuse

Once Snyder can find a way to charge you to bring in signs, believe me, they'll be allowed back in the stadium.

Posted by: capital_tee | October 27, 2009 7:05 PM | Report abuse

Some good suggestions here...

The best thing is obviously to hit Snyder in the pocket book. It's really all he cares about.

Soooooo...

Don't go to the games. Burn your season tickets in public and call the media. And do not renew your contract next year.

Don't buy the stuff. Snyder made his billion mostly from sales promotion chotchkies, let him choke on them.

Switch to DHL or UPS.

Donate all your present Redskins clothing to the Salvation Army or Goodwill... that way only the neediest people in the community will be seen wearing it.

Posted by: khrabb | October 27, 2009 7:13 PM | Report abuse

Wow. As if the other stuff wasn't bad enough, now this.

Washington fans have long called themselves the best in the NFL. Well, I just need to say this. If we can't fire our owner, after this crap, then we are worth nothing.

It is time to turn your back on whatever those are out there on the field at FedUp, until the Redskins come back.

(In a new stadium. Downtown. Pretty please.)

Posted by: poorskins | October 27, 2009 7:20 PM | Report abuse

Donate all your present Redskins clothing to the Salvation Army or Goodwill... that way only the neediest people in the community will be seen wearing it.

I couldn't do that to my fellow man.

Posted by: hessone | October 27, 2009 7:26 PM | Report abuse

tarded2much wrote:

This is turning into a business case of how not to run a company.
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Really, really good comment! Snyder is letting his insecurities dictate his judgment. What's really worrisome is that I don't think we've hit bottom yet.

Posted by: PS7900 | October 27, 2009 7:31 PM | Report abuse

Donovan's rule: True fans don't wave signs or towels. Apparently they just sit quietly in their extortionately priced seats and emit positive vibes for the hapless Skins and their Dear Leader, kinda like in North Korea.

Posted by: MartinZook | October 27, 2009 7:33 PM | Report abuse

Snyderputz is still a rube.

Posted by: MartinZook | October 27, 2009 7:33 PM | Report abuse

The ownership of this organization won't get the hint until the fans STOP GOING TO THE GAMES! Imagine how embarrassing it would've been to the Redskins and NFL if the stadium was at least half empty. I feel for the fans of the team and how your proud organization has been run into the ground by this inept buffoon.

So stop going to the games, thus no concession and parking $$. Stop buying game jerseys of washed up players (see Portis, Moss, Randel EL) or overpriced individuals (Haynesworth).

Snyder's only concern is the bottom line, money! He's some rich clown who outbid the Cooke family and now has his "fantasy football team". It's obvious that Gibbs wasn't going to work and now Zorn, through no fault of his own, is suffering from what Snyder and Cerrato have done.

So fans, send a message. STOP GOING TO FEDEX!

Posted by: bd986 | October 27, 2009 7:36 PM | Report abuse

If thousands of people stay home or protest at Redskin Park, Snyder will get the message.The good news...there are enough protest signs to cause the little runt to ban them.Bad publicity is a dagger in the gigantic ego of Snyder.

Posted by: bowspray | October 27, 2009 7:57 PM | Report abuse

$nyder SUCKS, Vinnie SWALLOWS!

Posted by: starpopper | October 27, 2009 8:01 PM | Report abuse

UVA tried to do this last year. The students protested by holding up blank pieces of paper at certain times during the football game. Didn't last long when the BOV found out about this.

Posted by: jcb3n | October 27, 2009 8:03 PM | Report abuse

After 30 years of Redskins...

I can put up with the losing streaks... been there before, but to TOTALLY restrict the fans from ALL free speech is simply crossing the line!

Until Adolf Snyder is no longer the team owner, I will be supporting the Ravens.

Posted by: MaxBlogus | October 27, 2009 8:06 PM | Report abuse

First he sues lifetime season ticket holders (including little ole grandmothers with Redskins quilts and homemade pillows) who can't afford his outrageously overpriced tickets, and now he BANS FREE SPEACH! This is the First Amendment, Folks! The United States Constitution! Dan Snyder the ANTI-AMERICAN NIGHTMARE FOOTBALL TEAM OWNER!

Posted by: markopc | October 27, 2009 8:08 PM | Report abuse

Now, if fans were truly serious about protest they'd organized a sign party outside the gates of Snyder's mansion. He can confiscate your signs if you stay on the public state road.

Posted by: beeman | October 27, 2009 8:09 PM | Report abuse

It's great to imagine a boycott, but the fact is that all those seat owners are locked into contracts (remember?). To expect them to throw away all that money by not showing or not reselling is unrealistic.

Instead, wear a black armband, don't renew your seats next year, and when reselling your tix, seek out fans of the opposing team. Waive that Terrible Towel in Danny's face (until they ban those too).

Posted by: TheBoreaucrat | October 27, 2009 8:12 PM | Report abuse

CAN WE IMPEACH SNYDER ??????????? This is not your team, it's our team. Snyder's a disgrace.

Posted by: lcribas58 | October 27, 2009 8:17 PM | Report abuse

Snyder must be related to Hitler...

Posted by: mofares | October 27, 2009 8:20 PM | Report abuse

Snyder should just buy a World Football League franchise in Russia. They don't have a First Amendment either, just like FEDUP FELD.

Posted by: markopc | October 27, 2009 8:22 PM | Report abuse

You have to understand how much Danny loves the team. He's really a great guy. And he's really not to blame. He's a genius. We're really very lucky to have him.
HAAAAAA HAAAAAA HAAA HAA HA HA HA HA!

Posted by: kls1 | October 27, 2009 8:24 PM | Report abuse

It's really too bad this is post 9-11 since I would gladly splurge for an air-banner towed around the sky blasting management! Then again I'm sure that punk of an owner we have would find a way to claim the airspace to deny over-flights!

I too am contractually obligated to buy my club seats for the next 7-years but I don't have to spend a nickel inside the stadium and I'll go hoarse once we get the "SNY-DER SUCKS" chants going! Try to ban that you inept, insecure & uncouth little punk!!!

Posted by: starpopper | October 27, 2009 8:28 PM | Report abuse

As Churchill once said (and I paraphrase here), "Let Admirals concern themselves with admiralty, and let politicians concern themselves with politics," and "Let football people concern themselves with football"! Can The Dan Man understand this elementary concept?

Posted by: markopc | October 27, 2009 8:39 PM | Report abuse

Ohh joy, T-shirts are WELCOME! Here's the quote from Skins COO David Donovan from the SkinsBlog website:

"Our policy regarding messages on T-shirts and other clothing is simple: if it doesn't display profanity, it's fine," he said. "It's not our policy to regulate clothing based on the message it displays. We've heard the anecdotal reports that some stadium personnel were being over-zealous in their handling of this matter Monday night. We apologize to any fans who were inconvenienced as well as fans who were distressed by the reports, and we'll be working with all stadium employees to be certain that the policy is correctly enforced at future games at FedExField."

Man I wish I had a portable t-shirt maker, I'd make a killing during tailgating!

Posted by: starpopper | October 27, 2009 8:41 PM | Report abuse

Wow, as a Steelers fan with season tickets in my family, there would be absolute mutiny if Stelers fans we had to put up with half the crap dished out to 'Skins fans. Thankfully, we have great owners who understand and appreciate the value of the fan base and support it rather than corrode it. I think dire action is needed. Either boycott, or make an organized effort to have every single patron walk into the next game carrying a sign. Is security going to kick everybody out?

Posted by: Kellygirl | October 27, 2009 8:48 PM | Report abuse


Well, the people still stupid enough to go the the cavern will feel safe without the signage.


Posted by: mortified469 | October 27, 2009 8:57 PM | Report abuse

The sign that should be banned is the one in the standings!!!2-5

Posted by: cmann083@yahoo.com | October 27, 2009 9:08 PM | Report abuse

Boycotting games will just convince Snyder (eventually) to move the team to some other city.

But you might boycott his other businesses - Six Flags & Johnny Rockets.

And he can stop you wearing shirts that criticize him in his stadium, but not around the city - everywhere, every day. Buy yourself a shirt that expresses your feelings for him and wear it proudly.

Throw a party where everyone wears "Trade Snyder" shirts, take a picture, and post it online. Give Dan the love and respect he deserves!

Posted by: skinsfan992 | October 27, 2009 9:14 PM | Report abuse

Snyder has turned into Old Man Potter. Let's get him!

Posted by: johng1 | October 27, 2009 9:26 PM | Report abuse

I wrote the Hi to my husband in afghanistan sign and it really made me mad when they told me i couldnt bring my sign in Synder can sit his on his ass and not have to do anything while my husbands fighting in a war, missed the birth of his child to fight for his country and I cant even bring a sign to tell him I love him. Ive been a die hard skins fan from the day I was born its getting really hard to be a fan anymore we either need to do something or I will never go to a game again until Snyder no longer owns the team

Posted by: jadabello7 | October 27, 2009 9:29 PM | Report abuse

He's afraid that what happened to Bob Short will happen to him (or already is happening). At the last Senators game, dummies of Short were hung from all over RFK. Ha ha ha.

Posted by: johng1 | October 27, 2009 9:44 PM | Report abuse

If you have your season tickets revoked for displaying a sign or shirt, will you be sued to pay for them anyway?

Posted by: dboz1970 | October 27, 2009 9:45 PM | Report abuse

So now you can't bring your signs into the stadium??? How pathetic! Remember the John 3:16 signs in all the stadiums back in the 80's?

Anyway, enough of my rant, I'm just glad I'm a RAVENS fan!!!

Posted by: cg24820001 | October 27, 2009 9:52 PM | Report abuse

Free speech has been dead for a long long time in this country. Skins fans welcome to the counter culture. Losing is Wining. Freedom is Slavery.

Snyder wishes it was 1984, the skins were good then.

Posted by: alex35332 | October 27, 2009 9:56 PM | Report abuse

Yes, great move by the team. Because that's been the problem with the team for the last ten years: banners. Maybe now, without the banners, the team will score 18 points a game instead of 17.

Maybe now, without the banners, Vinny Cerrato will stop trading draft picks and putting this team in salary cap hell like he did in SF.

Maybe now, without the banners, the Redskins will go undefeated and straight to Miami and the Super Bowl.

Or maybe the owner has become as every bit paranoid, as Nixon once was, of his critics. And this is just another way for Snyder and his kingdom of minions to stifle dissent amongst the peasants who have the audacity to show up, pay $200 for privileges like...parking...and eating...and showing up to root for the mediocre talent they put on resodded turf year after year. Yes, how dare we show our dissatisfaction with the way you've managed this team into the ground, sir, with a sign. How dare the fans embarrass King Daniel the Young of Landovershire.

Why does this team hate it's fans?

Posted by: vscorpio30 | October 27, 2009 9:56 PM | Report abuse

This is a classic "sign" of desperation. His kind cannot stand dissent or disrespect. I am hoping that some poor slob gets locked up over this policy and the ACLU steps in.

Posted by: MKadyman | October 27, 2009 9:59 PM | Report abuse

jadabello7, you have all our sympathies and best wishes.

I can't understand what they were thinking. That sign on TV would've only generated good PR for Danny.

I guess in his mind, any publicity is bad publicity.

Posted by: info42 | October 27, 2009 10:10 PM | Report abuse

Options for radical action, I don't encourage violent action myself, so lets take tips from MLKJ.

1. A sit in, end of a game fans don't leave.
2. Boycott
3. Protests. Maybe do one by RFK where a, Snyder has no power and b, Its easy for many people to access and get press coverage.

Posted by: alex35332 | October 27, 2009 10:14 PM | Report abuse

Snyder is using Obama's Chicago style antics - silence anyone who dares to criticize.

Posted by: lindamoney1 | October 27, 2009 10:48 PM | Report abuse

At some point the league is going to step in. The league can deal with bad teams, but it does not want disgruntled fans and poor ownership. When the game experience is ruined, it taints the whole league. Skins fans, keep it up. You do in fact have the power to change this situation. Hang in there.

Posted by: Rainier1 | October 27, 2009 11:07 PM | Report abuse

Hey, Wizards won their opener. Any chance we can find tickets for jadabello7, so she can see a quality team, owned by a first-rate man, where her sign might make it onto the TV to say hello to her husband?

Posted by: TheBoreaucrat | October 27, 2009 11:08 PM | Report abuse

will the people you mentioned lose their tickets now?

Posted by: bal503 | October 27, 2009 11:10 PM | Report abuse

People are angrier about this than the war in Iraq. Seriously, how many of these people made protest signs when lied about WMD as a pretense for war? Snyder is an idiot and this new policy confirms that. But I wish people got this worked up when real issues and real people's lives are at stake.

Posted by: nadeemsx | October 27, 2009 11:53 PM | Report abuse

Snyder is using Obama's Chicago style antics - silence anyone who dares to criticize.

Posted by: lindamoney1 | October 27, 2009 10:48 PM | Report abuse
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I see the "Report abuse" link but where do I find the "Report stupidity" link?

Posted by: PrinceBuster21 | October 28, 2009 12:50 AM | Report abuse

Absolutely shocking. It's been ten years since I lived in DC, but still visit a couple times a year. Except for watching the decline of the Redskins from afar, I had no idea how bad the Snyder regime had become (guess Gibbs' coming back for awhile helped mask it).

This banning of signs is appalling. I have to agree with the commenters who suggested calling ESPN on this -- for two reasons. 1) The network is really focusing on the Redskins lately because of the undermining of Zorn; they're a hot story and this really feeds into the image of a management doing bizarre, unfair -- and, given the lady having to give up her sign to her husband in Afghanistan -- exceedingly cruel things.

2) Not to be crass about this, but I can't believe that ANY of the networks broadcasting Redskins games would be exactly thrilled about the fact that if their cameras pan FedEx field, they won't see one handmade sign boosting their network in a cute fashion.

Finally, this is Washington, DC, for goodness sake. Call your Congressman and get Snyder and Company to explain themselves in a congressional hearing, if they have to!

This is something that Roger Goodell might not want to see getting traction as well.

Posted by: RAGGEDT | October 28, 2009 3:21 AM | Report abuse

Any attorneys out there willing to take on Syndergate? Seriously, Washington is filled with lawyers...someone please step up and get this shoved down Dan's mouth!

Another "sign" of shutting up the voices of opposition! When has freedom of speech become so obsolete?!!!

Posted by: HelpUsAll1 | October 28, 2009 3:52 AM | Report abuse

One of the attorneys -- c'mon, we all know you're out there -- may want to do a little LEXIS research into something that happened at a baseball game in Yankee Stadium in (I believe) the 1980s. Someone brought a derogatory "Steinbrenner (stinx)" poster to the game; that was then seized and destroyed by NYPD. The original Yankee Stadium was private property, too, but Boss George and New York each wound up paying a six-figure settlement for being ultimately responsible for the orders that caused a government agent (the police officer) to violate that signbearer's First Amendment rights.

Posted by: greggwiggins | October 27, 2009 4:32 PM
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That's not correct. Although Yankee Stadium was built by the Yankees in 1923, it and the land sits (sat) on were transferred to New York City in 1973, which then paid for its reconstruction. Since its reopening in 1976, it was administered by the NYC Parks Dept and leased to the Yankees. So the First Amendment implications were different.

Still the use of PG Police outside the FedEx Field, and the confiscation (and destruction) of signs outside the stadium rather than simply disallowing their entry, may raise some First Amendment issues, even in the People's Republic of Raljon.

The complete banning of signs on the grounds of safety, is, whatever its motivations, at least content neutral, which may actually be more First-Amendment-friendly than policies that attempt content-based restrictions on such vague grounds as whether they are "objectionable." However, banning expression that clearly carries no safety implications -- such as on T-shirts -- and employing public officials outside the stadium to do it may raise some problems.

Posted by: Meridian1 | October 28, 2009 6:40 AM | Report abuse

I've followed the Redskins for nearly 50 years and have never felt more despondent about the team. The fish stinks from the head. The only way to hurt Synder is through the pocketbook. I suggest we all stop buying tickets and if we do attend the game, do not purchase food , beverage or merchandise at the stadium.

Posted by: mikelombardi | October 28, 2009 7:05 AM | Report abuse

Can I hold a sign inside YOUR house calling you dumb? It IS Dan Snyders house and if he doesn't want people holding up signs calling him dumb then that shouldn't surprise you. He takes a ton of blame from ignorant people, but giving Cerrato such a long leash is his only REAL dis-service to our franchise. It will end this year though my fellow fans. Snyder has to rid himself of the steamy pile that Cerrato has created....and he will.

Posted by: wewbank1 | October 28, 2009 7:14 AM | Report abuse

And to greggwiggins....This country is in shambles because of people like you. Our law system wastes its time issueing six figures to someone because of cardboard? What a JOKE!! Greed works both ways, and you just proved it. Freedom of speech isn't of any value anymore, and so people decide to try and get rich off of it. Nice.

Posted by: wewbank1 | October 28, 2009 7:19 AM | Report abuse

"Rather than spend money on his football team, why not contribute to a fund so the little guy can buy some of those manhood extender pills"

Oh, he's got the money to buy the whole company, but it'd be a waste of dough. Cain't extend what you ain't got.

Now if you're talking about his stature, he probably ought to invest in some HCG injections. It might make him tall enough to where he doesn't have to put on a gas mask every time he gets into an elevator.

Posted by: laboo | October 28, 2009 7:38 AM | Report abuse

Snyderatto,

You guys made the big time again ! Mike and Mike were talking about this article on their show this morning.

Confiscating a woman's sign saying hello to her husband fighting for our country in Afganistan ?! Great publicity you just gave your football team ! It would take both of you 4 promotions in life to get to be classless jerks.

You and your organization organization would'nt know class if it slept with you all night, im jumping ship to another team.

Posted by: Davo61 | October 28, 2009 7:43 AM | Report abuse

Where are the contract lawyers?

Since the season tickets were purchased before the season why wouldn't the sign policy in effect then cover them for the rest of the season?

Posted by: whlinder1 | October 28, 2009 7:45 AM | Report abuse

They are banning paper bags because "masks are not allowed" even though the policy doesn't explicitly say so. This gives them an out because "masks" can theoretically be construed as a "security issue" by virtue of concealing one's features.

There is, of course, am easy fix for this. Instead of being anonymous baggers, we will simply have to cut a single face hole instead of separate eye, nose and mouth holes. It won't look as cool, but it sure can't be considered a "mask".

Posted by: laboo | October 28, 2009 7:47 AM | Report abuse

Um, it's a GD football team. Before you decry the downfall of society or violate Godwin's law (as many already have), consider just not giving a sh*t about them anymore.

I don't, and we've had season tickets for 68 years. It's a glorious feeling, this indifference.

Posted by: azgoodman | October 28, 2009 7:48 AM | Report abuse

I think everyone should grant Mr. Snyder's wish and not take signs to the stadium.....oh, and leave your behind at home too!

Posted by: RealConservative | October 28, 2009 7:54 AM | Report abuse

I noticed fans are reporting the volume level of the PA system at the stadium is louder now than it was in past years. I thought to myself the last time I went to a game was three seasons ago and I thought it was loud then. My point here is $nyder must want to drown out any sort of chant or reference to him being the moron that he is. Take back your right to speak what's on your mind:

BOYCOTT THE SAWED-OFF MIDGET!!!!
BOYCOTT THE SAWED-OFF MIDGET!!!!
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Posted by: hessone | October 28, 2009 8:04 AM | Report abuse

Quote: "Though his actions are reprehensible, Dan Snyder is not bound by the first amendment as a private citizen operating a private facility.

The last I checked though, Prince George's County police officers are agents of the government. Their role in the T-shirt censorship may well be unconstitutional."

From what I remember while cops are "on duty" 24/7, the Redskins *HIRE* them as security for the games so in essence they are private security guards...off duty police. How many times have you walked through a grocery store seeing a guy packing a gun on his hip in a sweatshirt and jeans?

Snyder is making a national joke out of the franchise. I wouldn't be surprised if the NFL powers that be came down on him and told him to back off. He's making them look bad.

Posted by: bullwinkle1 | October 28, 2009 8:18 AM | Report abuse

Obituary
The Washington Deadskins, born the
Boston Braves in 1932, passed away in
October 2009, following a ten-year long
illness inflicted upon it by team owner
Daniel M. Snyder and pseudo-general
manager Vinny Cerrato. After several false
alarms and faint glimmers of playoff
hope, the once proud franchise developed
a fatal aversion to the end-zone, and
succumbed in a slow, painful death. The
team leaves behind thousands of
disgruntled fans, angry tailgaters, and
despondent season ticket holders, as well
as tons of unsold Deadskins merchandise,
one puzzled quar terback, and an
emasculated head coach.
Oh, how the once mighty have fallen!

Posted by: bromisky | October 28, 2009 8:19 AM | Report abuse

boycott!! that will set things str8 no more $

Posted by: realdcrap | October 28, 2009 8:20 AM | Report abuse

Order of Memorial Service
Processional
Hymn ............................ “Hail to the Deadskins”
Testimonials .................... Norv Turner, Terry Robiskie,
Marty Schottenheimer,
Steve Spurrier, and Joe Gibbs
Apology to Fans ......... Daniel M. Snyder & Vinny Cerrato
Eulogy ....................... Jim Zorn (this could take a while)
Hymn ............................ “Amazing Disgrace”
Benediction ......... Brian Mitchell (got to have the last word)
Recessional
Burial at FedExField
(Just short of the north end-zone)
followed by a torch and pitchfork march to the homes of
Dan Snyder and Vinny Cerrato.
Repast at Johnny Rocket’s overpriced burgers and shakes.

Posted by: bromisky | October 28, 2009 8:21 AM | Report abuse

“Hail to the Deadskins”
Hail to the Deadskins,
No victory.
We can’t score touchdowns,
We just take the three!
Run or pass and score, we need a lot more,
Portis doesn’t practice ‘cause his foot’s sore.
Gripe on, gripe on ‘til Vin-ny’s gone
Shame in Wash-ing-ton
Boo, Boo, Boo!
Hail to the Deadskins,
No victory.
Let’s grab Dan Snyder
Hang him from a tree!
------------
Funeral Arrangements (Ten Years in the Making)
by
Snyder/Cerrato Funeral Home
Ashburn, Virginia

Posted by: bromisky | October 28, 2009 8:23 AM | Report abuse

We must stop going to the games. Empty seats will make the difference

Posted by: ian1_17 | October 28, 2009 8:31 AM | Report abuse

I actually feel bad for you Skins fans. A once proud franchise being destroyed by its ownership. Living in Pittsburgh, which is football heaven, I couldn't imagine having an ownership like the one the Skins are under. Thank the lord for the Rooneys! Banning signs at the game? What has happened to freedom of speech? The Skins fans really need to make a tough stand on this. Stop showing up at the games and hopefully ownership will take notice when revenue drops. If you can't stop coming to the games to watch this train wreck then keep bringing creative signs to the games. Stuff it right in Snyders face, which is apparently what he hates most since he can't handle the truth! Go Steelers!

Posted by: Pensrock87 | October 28, 2009 8:36 AM | Report abuse

Fan abuse!! Lawsuits! - changing tailgating policies! and parking lot flow! - frisking fans! at the gate and even ask for hats to be removed. All they are looking for is food!! Now no signs of any kind!! Hey did anyone notice on a bench camera shot it looked like a player was snoozing??!! Been a fan for over fifty years but getting close to ditching any support!!

Posted by: FrancisHerbert | October 28, 2009 8:52 AM | Report abuse

It would be great if all the people who sit the section(s) under the owner's box, when the TV cameras are showing Snyderrato in the box (maybe someone brings in a small TV so they know when that happens and signals everyone else), all stand up and display their hidden shirt messages and signs at that moment. I doubt the team would risk escorting the entire section out of the stadium on national TV. Then again, if they did, boy would that send a statement.

Posted by: bbmcoachk | October 28, 2009 8:55 AM | Report abuse

No masks?
Why then are the World Famous Hogettes still allowed their disguises?

Posted by: tradervic1313 | October 28, 2009 9:01 AM | Report abuse

It would be great if all the people who sit the section(s) under the owner's box, when the TV cameras are showing Snyderrato in the box (maybe someone brings in a small TV so they know when that happens and signals everyone else), all stand up and display their hidden shirt messages and signs at that moment. I doubt the team would risk escorting the entire section out of the stadium on national TV. Then again, if they did, boy would that send a statement.

Posted by: bbmcoachk | October 28, 2009 8:55 AM | Report abuse

The statement has already been sent. You've had your freedom of speech striped from you. Only one thing to do:

BOYCOTT THE SAWED-OFF MIDGET!!!!
BOYCOTT THE SAWED-OFF MIDGET!!!!
BOYCOTT THE SAWED-OFF MIDGET!!!!
BOYCOTT THE SAWED-OFF MIDGET!!!!
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BOYCOTT THE SAWED-OFF MIDGET!!!!
BOYCOTT THE SAWED-OFF MIDGET!!!!
BOYCOTT THE SAWED-OFF MIDGET!!!!
BOYCOTT THE SAWED-OFF MIDGET!!!!
BOYCOTT THE SAWED-OFF MIDGET!!!!
BOYCOTT THE SAWED-OFF MIDGET!!!!
BOYCOTT THE SAWED-OFF MIDGET!!!!
BOYCOTT THE SAWED-OFF MIDGET!!!!
BOYCOTT THE SAWED-OFF MIDGET!!!!
BOYCOTT THE SAWED-OFF MIDGET!!!!
BOYCOTT THE SAWED-OFF MIDGET!!!!
BOYCOTT THE SAWED-OFF MIDGET!!!!
BOYCOTT THE SAWED-OFF MIDGET!!!!
BOYCOTT THE SAWED-OFF MIDGET!!!!
BOYCOTT THE SAWED-OFF MIDGET!!!!

Posted by: hessone | October 28, 2009 9:14 AM | Report abuse

SELL THE TEAM, MIDGET, SELL THE TEAM

Posted by: rg019571 | October 28, 2009 9:19 AM | Report abuse

And... Boycott Red Zebra radio

Posted by: rg019571 | October 28, 2009 9:20 AM | Report abuse

ALL HAIL LORD DARTH SNYDER !!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: LMichael1 | October 28, 2009 9:24 AM | Report abuse

Hey, Wizards won their opener. Any chance we can find tickets for jadabello7, so she can see a quality team, owned by a first-rate man, where her sign might make it onto the TV to say hello to her husband?

Posted by: TheBoreaucrat | October 27, 2009 11:08 PM

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Ted Leonsis and his Washington Capitals are also "a quality team, owned by a first-rate man". Wouldn't surprise me if, when he reads about this (Leonsis makes his washingtoncaps.com e-mail address public and usually answers something sent him within 24 hours), Ted invites her to join him in the owners' box.

Posted by: greggwiggins | October 28, 2009 9:33 AM | Report abuse

And to greggwiggins....This country is in shambles because of people like you. Our law system wastes its time issueing six figures to someone because of cardboard? What a JOKE!! Greed works both ways, and you just proved it. Freedom of speech isn't of any value anymore, and so people decide to try and get rich off of it. Nice.

Posted by: wewbank1 | October 28, 2009 7:19 AM

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I think you misunderstood my point, wewbank1; it's not an attempt to get rich, it's a statement that a wrong was committed. Criminal penalties are fines or jail time but civil penalties are limited to cash payments and injunctions ordering behavior stopped. The size of the payment has nothing to do with the implication that a judge ordered a payment made. It is, however, a fact that the Yankee Stadium case resulted in a six-figure penalty to the team. Surely you don't object to my attempts to be an accurate reporter on the website of The Washington Post?

Posted by: greggwiggins | October 28, 2009 9:37 AM | Report abuse

I never thought I'd be saying this, but there's an opening in LA. Snyder should take his team there and let the NFL give us a new one. With a new owner. That will serve three purposes:

1. Snyder and his meddling will be gone;
2. It will hasten the blowing up of this team, which needs to happen; and
3. Snyder will be closer to Tom Cruise.

Posted by: Diamondback1 | October 28, 2009 9:38 AM | Report abuse

If I were season ticket owners, I would look into a class action lawsuit. It seems to be the only thing Snyder understands. If he can sue his fan base, why not the other way around.

SUE SNYDER!!!!!

Posted by: KSY_in_NOVA | October 28, 2009 10:04 AM | Report abuse

This is crazy! I've been a Skins fan all of my life and Snyder is taking away the little bit of fun we can have at the games. First no more tailgating and now this? Lets boycott FedEx Field and see who gets the last laugh!!

Posted by: psock1 | October 28, 2009 10:07 AM | Report abuse

Clearly obvious that Snyder is one of the WORST, if not THE WORST, Sports Franchise owner in the U.S. I mean, how does he get to re-write the Constitution in his stadium??? Sounds to me that some real rights are being violated, and it would be interesting to hear from a lawyer if there's legal ramifications to what Snyder is doing? My GAWD, is this a game at a Sports stadium or the re-incarnation of a NAZI-regime????

Snyder has clearly crossed the line at censorship, and now I think he truly has gone over the edge. The fan base is now lost upon him, and it won't be but a year or two before sell-outs are just a memory and TV blackouts begin.

Once a VERY PROUD Redskins fan, now I am seeing the destruction of a storied franchise before my very own eyes. Can't the NFL step-in and do something about Snyder's censorship?

Posted by: wagenstill | October 28, 2009 10:08 AM | Report abuse

Snyder is coming to his senses.....thanks to fans and dan steinberg making their voices heard (despite snyder infringing on our freedom of speech rights)..snyder is going to fire cerrato in december...and cerrato will never again be employed in any capacity in the NFL.

what cerrato knows about evaluating pro or college football talent ....could fit into the reservoir tip of a condom.

cerrato's drafting of rinehart & davis, kelly ....and free agency signings of brandon Lloyd and archuletta and duckett...are but a few examples that expose cerrato's ineptness.

Posted by: jrebstock | October 28, 2009 10:29 AM | Report abuse

KSY_in_NOVA - how would a class action suit work in this case? what would you sue him for?

Posted by: funkey | October 28, 2009 10:36 AM | Report abuse

Do not give this petulant little boy of an owner one cent more of your money. I've yet to attend a live game or purchase a jersey while he's owned the team. Sure, I'm dead broke, but I wouldn't if I had the cash. Sic semper tyrannis, Dannis!

John Papageorgiou, Contributor to www.inpapasbasement.com

Posted by: Papageorgiou | October 28, 2009 11:02 AM | Report abuse

Hold on a second, their ban explanation is that signs block views and poke people in the head? Last I checked, T-shirts don't block views or poke anyone in the head...

This is moronic, why do these idiots keep showing up to the games? Sure, you can wear all the cute t-shirts you want or carry those clever signs but in the end, Snyder has your ticket/parking/merch/concession money in his pocket and he's still laughing. People showing up at the games are part of the problem with this franchise, maybe even the root problem.

Posted by: playahatah | October 28, 2009 11:21 AM | Report abuse

YOU SUCK SNYDER, We the fans wish you would wear a bag over your head so we don't have to see what a SH!TTY owner looks like

Posted by: 1-20-09 | October 28, 2009 11:27 AM | Report abuse

I say, if you must go to the next home game paint something like the following on your chest & remove your shirt at the start of the game

Ban the bag
Ban the signs
ban the shirt
ban the fan?
oh and feel free to add Sell the Team or whatever else you like.

Posted by: notamullethead | October 28, 2009 11:38 AM | Report abuse

Did anyone read the the article about the Bills fan who started a campaign to raise money for a billboard aimed at the Buffalo Bills owner. See the link below.......
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-bills-fanbillboard&prov=ap&type=lgns.

If any of you are interested I'd be willing to start a similar campaign in DC.
I am not even from DC and I am a season ticket holder who drives 3 hours from Pennsylvania.....that's right three hours from Pennsylvania to watch what doesn't even resemble professional football anymore.

We as faithful Redskins fans must stand up for our first ammendment rights. Who does Dan Snyder think he is?? If I see some interest in a campaign I'll launch one......somehow. What the hell I'll just contact that 18 year old from Buffalo to get some pointers.

I do know one thing......When that Redskins Marketer calls me next year.....I'll tell him to shove those tickets right up Danny Boys Arse!!

Posted by: tmaloney1 | October 28, 2009 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Can I hold a sign inside YOUR house calling you dumb? It IS Dan Snyders house and if he doesn't want people holding up signs calling him dumb then that shouldn't surprise you. He takes a ton of blame from ignorant people, but giving Cerrato such a long leash is his only REAL dis-service to our franchise. It will end this year though my fellow fans. Snyder has to rid himself of the steamy pile that Cerrato has created....and he will

If you and 20 of your friends want to pay me $200 dollars to come to my house for 4 hours and yell and hold up signs that say I am dumb I have no problem with that. Nobody is violating any laws and signs are permitted in every other stadium in the world but not Fed Ex that is unbelievable. This is a whole new precedent a low nobody saw coming. I am sure when fans purchased their season tickets however long ago they never envisioned being this treated this poorly. I have been a fan all my life and I would prefer the suggestion of moving the team so we can get a new team and owner. This is ridiculous and while it is not a violation of anybody's rights it is a horrible pr move.

Posted by: dagr8dwalo | October 28, 2009 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Hey - Skins fans? You're well on your way to becoming the Chicago Cub fans of the NFL if you don't wake up and stop packing the stadium, blindly cheering for a pathetic excuse for a pro football team. repeat after me "Wait "til Next Year!" is already your chant - soon a mantra, then a desperate plea - but your still show up, game after game, year after year, buynig the memorabilia and overpriced concessions -

You get what you pay for.

Posted by: NBCT2001 | October 28, 2009 11:52 AM | Report abuse

"Chicago Cubs fans of the NFL"?

No way. Wrigleyville has much better bars than the area around FedEx Field.

Posted by: greggwiggins | October 28, 2009 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Signs banned in FedEx? No problem. Take them to Dan's house.

11728 River Rd, Rockville, MD, United States

Posted by: thornwalker1 | October 28, 2009 12:01 PM | Report abuse

D$: {sniff} "Oh, ok. Can I have my chocolate pudding now? I still am worried."

VC: "Sure. Hey, wills (sic) ya feel better if I lays(sic) out the money pile on the floor and you can rolls(sic) around in it?"

D$: "Yeah. That would be great. Don't forget to lay down my 'Fans are suckers! blankie, first."

Posted by: nojunk4me | October 27, 2009 2:56 PM

I know I'm a day late here, but that is about the funniest thing I've read on here! (That and whoever referred to Vinny and Danny's "sockpuppet"... priceless) Keep it up, guys. These comment boards are the only worthwhile things left surrounding the Redskins.

Oh, and regarding the PG cops: they CAN be used by stadium security. If stadium security asks someone to put down a sign and that person refuses, then security can ask them to leave. If the fan refuses to leave, then they are trespassing. That's what the PG cops will charge them with.

Posted by: therearenonamesleft | October 28, 2009 12:08 PM | Report abuse

Being a Chiefs fan for all of my life I have lived with a dictatorship that produced horrible results. It took empty seats and a 10 year waiting list to vanish to cause a change in the dictatorship. EMPTY the seats and then ADOLPH SNYDER will either get the message or GOD forbid, become the LA Redskins.

Posted by: prdrive | October 28, 2009 12:22 PM | Report abuse

This imbecile Snyder has totally forgotten who his customers are. Sure he can try to silence us, because he owns the team and the stadium. How about this. We boycott all concessions at the games. No beer, no water, no hot dogs, nothing and see how he likes that. Can he force us to buy something or eject us for not buying? I think not. We have to get this little weasel to acknowledge his customers and not by having Vinny do it for him.

Posted by: fishndude | October 28, 2009 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Snyder is certainly making himself look like the thought-cop. Thought crime.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thoughtcrime

Posted by: pdo3 | October 28, 2009 12:29 PM | Report abuse

What happened to the customer is always right?!?!?

Posted by: mramitanand | October 28, 2009 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone really think there is hope that this guy will ever “get it?” I don’t think so. The level of public angst and disgust with the team has reached an all time high, and instead of self reflection (which he’s incapable of), he takes the predictable action. To push back harder. To control. In fact, this IS Dan Synder summed up in one word: CONTROL. He wants to control the organization, his employees, the stadium, and most important, the message. That’s why he maintains Cerrato in that position – who is unquestionably the worse football man in the NFL – because he knows he can control him and Cerrato has nowhere else to go and get a job. Synder is a tragically flawed human being incapable of change.

Posted by: Bear6962 | October 28, 2009 1:31 PM | Report abuse

I say take the banned signs to Caps and Wiz games.

Posted by: dclifer97 | October 28, 2009 1:42 PM | Report abuse

this is over the top......for the love of God and our 'skins: STOP BUYING TICKETS AND MERCHANDISE AND DO NOT SHOW UP (OR SELL YOUR TICKETS YOUR STUCK WITH) TO NEXT # GAMES!!!!!!!!

PROTEST OUT IN FRONT OF REDSKINS PARK!!

Posted by: tabtool | October 28, 2009 2:08 PM | Report abuse

tmaloney1--put me down for $100.......suggest you run this thru the boycott redskins site and set up some form of paypal account to fund it to avoid any chance someone may misues the funds...go to http://www.fanexodus.com/
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Did anyone read the the article about the Bills fan who started a campaign to raise money for a billboard aimed at the Buffalo Bills owner. See the link below.......
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-bills-fanbillboard&prov=ap&type=lgns.

If any of you are interested I'd be willing to start a similar campaign in DC.
I am not even from DC and I am a season ticket holder who drives 3 hours from Pennsylvania.....that's right three hours from Pennsylvania to watch what doesn't even resemble professional football anymore.

We as faithful Redskins fans must stand up for our first ammendment rights. Who does Dan Snyder think he is?? If I see some interest in a campaign I'll launch one......somehow. What the hell I'll just contact that 18 year old from Buffalo to get some pointers.

I do know one thing......When that Redskins Marketer calls me next year.....I'll tell him to shove those tickets right up Danny Boys Arse!!

Posted by: tmaloney1 | October 28, 2009 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: tabtool | October 28, 2009 2:15 PM | Report abuse

I have been a rabid Redskins fan for over 40 years. I traveled to two of their Super Bowls. I wore Redskins jerseys to elementary school, junior high and high school. My family has had season tickets since 1964. I have stuck with the Redskins through some very bad seasons. I moved away from the DC area a few years back, but still fly back for a couple of home games a year and got NFL Sunday Ticket so I could see all the Redskin games. That is all over. I am disgusted by what the current owner has done to a once proud franchise and the contempt he shows to the true fan base. My family will not be renewing our season tickets next year. I will drop NFL Sunday Ticket because I don't want to contribute one penny to Snyder, even indirectly. I will no longer buy Redskins merchandise. I firmly believe that the only hope for turning this around is to hit him in the wallet as hard as possible. I encourage all true Redskin fans to do the same.

Posted by: jmiller13 | October 28, 2009 2:25 PM | Report abuse

I don't think the policy's changed. The policy clearly states that "Management reserves the right to remove any sign. . . ." They're just changing how the policy's being enforced.

Also, with all the lawyers in D.C., I find it hard to believe that no one's challenged the P.G. police's involvement. Personally, I don't see a significant governmental interest in infringing upon fans' right to expression.

Posted by: MrATBU | October 28, 2009 2:30 PM | Report abuse

wow....I have "hated" the Redskins and their self proclaimed "best fans in the league" for years yet even I find myself empathetic to this situation. And believe me, as a Raiders fan I know a bit about crazy management but this is just getting wierd.

ONly solution you have is not go to games....from what i can see this is the only way you shall rid yourself of this tool Snyder. And while I "dislike" your team and fans, you were a proud franchise that in no way deserves this. You guys are actually worse off then we are, and that is saying something

Long live Jack Squirek!!!

Posted by: RaidersFanInBudapest | October 28, 2009 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Unfortunately, tickets have long been held in court to be a license with whatever conditions an issuer wishes to attach to them.

So taking away signs isn't a violation of any first amendment rights, and the Skins would likely win in court against anyone who tried to argue otherwise, even if there were actual cops and not merely private security involved. If it was just private security, then obviously the first amendment wouldn't come into it (c'mon, people, weren't you awake in high school civics?)

Posted by: step5555 | October 28, 2009 3:16 PM | Report abuse

First, Snyder gives us one of the truly bad, BAD teams of the modern football era. Then he regulates with his no sign policy against people who criticize him for sticking his nose where it doesn't belong and ruining everything.

His sign policy stinks!!!!

This buffoon may be rich, and the 'Skins are indeed his toy. But why do fans keep supporting him????

Just say "NO" and start following the Wizards or the Caps. Even the Nats with their 100-loss season were more entertaining that Snyder's sorry-a$$ lot.

Posted by: loulor | October 28, 2009 3:17 PM | Report abuse

This is not a freedom of speech issue people, your First Amendment rights only protect you from the government. Businesses, like the Redskins, are allowed to restrict your speech as much as they want.

Of course, Synder is not earning himself any good will, but the only way to get through is to make it hurt his pocketbook.

Posted by: Gibonius | October 28, 2009 3:20 PM | Report abuse

You know, I've been a skins fan since Clint Longley made my mom cry back in '72 and it hurts me to say I just don't care anymore.

Wake up, people, don't buy season tickets, don't buy merchandise of any sort, just find something else to do on sundays until the little scientologist goes away. Until he goes away, it will be this same crap every year.

Posted by: JHyater | October 28, 2009 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Yes...excellent...I hope tons of people cancel their season tickets...

MINE WILL ONLY GET BETTER!! MWAHAHAHAHAHA!!

(Considering most commenters aren't season ticket holders...i always laugh when they say boycott games)

Posted by: goosedude | October 28, 2009 3:58 PM | Report abuse

It is evident that while Snyder might have been smart enough to accumulate the wealth needed to buy a NFL franchise for a hobby, he's not too bright in challenging the American ingenuity that is just beginning to come into play at FedEx Field.

There will be signs criticizing you at FedEx Field. Bank on it!

Although the "signs" may not be as sophisticated as the letters "MIT" printed on a weather balloon that lifted up from the 50-Yard Line during a Harvard-Yale game, disgruntled and talented Redskins fans are talented enough to express their feelings about the team's owner and management inside the stadium, outside the stadium and especially on national television.

Did you hear about the guy who dressed up the late Colonel Sanders and was given a grand tour of the United Nations including having his picture taken with the current president of the UN General Assembly?

UN Security was breached.

FedEx Field security has been breached and will continue to be breached as well. When Superman shows up at the front gate, he will certainly be given a VIP escort to Snyder's skybox for a photo op.

Then he will fly around the field trailing a sign saying "Snyder ____________."

Feel free to complete the wording on the sign.

Posted by: osiuerer | October 28, 2009 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Boycott the next home game. Let him look at 90,000 empty seats all afternoon..

Posted by: SMWE357 | October 28, 2009 4:29 PM | Report abuse

goosedude - may as well take a few thousand dollars, douse it in gasoline, and light it on fire. Congrats on your season tickets. Glad to see some idiots still have disposable income and endeavour to support this moribound franchise. Take a bow

Posted by: Tinman1188 | October 28, 2009 4:45 PM | Report abuse

I, for one, am happy about the ban. Most of these crackpots with signs already are drunk. The last thing I need is for them to be waving around these signs and obstructing my view, not to mention getting hit in the head with them occasionally.

Posted by: mel_gibson_ | October 28, 2009 5:04 PM | Report abuse

What would happen if Angelos and Snyder got in a room together???

Posted by: CelticFCbhoys | October 28, 2009 5:47 PM | Report abuse

I also don't believe that there's much of a wait list, if any. I decided not to renew my tickets at the beginning of this season and I was contacted at least 4 or 5 times by the Sales Office, trying to get me to renew and frequently offering incentives if I would (e.g. free tickets to a concert).

If there were a viable wait list, they would simply have moved on to the next people on the list.

Posted by: mhs101255 | October 28, 2009 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Hey DANNY! Move your team to LA and let the NFL give us another franchise. Anybody but you, pal.

Posted by: CryoGen | October 28, 2009 6:37 PM | Report abuse

Snyder may own the stadium and ground it sits on but he doesn't own the sky above. Someone needs to start a fund we can donate to and send those little planes that pull the signs (like at the beach) and fly them around the stadium during the game. Different sayings on each. "Sell the Team" "We want real football" "Snyder Sucks"........ Let him try to stop that !

Posted by: RhodaS | October 28, 2009 8:16 PM | Report abuse

To Fans:

Effective immediately there are to be none of the following:

Signs
unhappy faces
boos
any criticism
standing up
lying down
Utterance of the words "Snyder" and these words in a sentence , "sucks", "horrible", "disaster", "joke", terrible, "incompetant", "refund".
People over 6 feet tall
People under 5 feet 2 inches tall
People who do not spend at least $100 per game.

Violations will de dealt with severely,

Signed,

Dan Snyder
Owner and Chairman
Washington Redskins

PS. Have a nice day.

Posted by: dwdave67 | October 28, 2009 8:25 PM | Report abuse

Ok, you people need to get your heads out of the ground. I am sick and tired of people blaming the coaches or the management. It's THE PLAYERS STUPID!! Dan Snyder isnt out on the field missing catches and fumbling the ball.

Plain and simple....we have poor athletes. maybe thats managments fault for not recruiting better, but fact is, if ya cant hold on to the dang ball you just plain suck

Its not the management..its the players stupid!! Bench the losers and start recruiting better talent.

Posted by: politicsismylife | October 28, 2009 9:45 PM | Report abuse

Will somone Please post Mr.Snyders address so we can send him our thoughts and letters.PLEASE!

Posted by: vexed50verizonnet | October 28, 2009 9:46 PM | Report abuse

Boycott the Games! Boycott the merchandise! Money talks to Snyder! Right now, he feels he still has a captive audience and he will still cash in. Let's start BOYCOTTING THE GAMES until Cerrato is gone, and, other changes are made.

Maybe we need to post the signs by Snyder's house.

Posted by: FormerSkinFan | October 28, 2009 10:04 PM | Report abuse

E-MAIL INFO FOR ESPN RADIO RE: NFL

I don't believe the e-mail addy posted for Goodell is correct...but, you can send an e-mail re: the NFL to ESPN radio (I cut and pasted the content suggested by cstanton1)

http://sports.espn.go.com/espnradio/story?page=email_radionfl

Posted by: Southernbelle_aurora | October 28, 2009 11:34 PM | Report abuse

Get 11 of your friends. Each one wears the following letters:

S E L L. T H E. T E A M.

If guards come to confiscate, just shuffle.

S E L L. T H E. M E A T.

Posted by: Keliza64 | October 29, 2009 12:04 AM | Report abuse

Hey Danny boy, I've had some sympathy for you over the non-existant Skins offense but if all you're concerned with are 'love Skins' signs from fans at the games, well then, you really are a bozo knucklehead. Let's talk priorities here.

DITCH SNYDER AND VINNY. Now Danny boy, want to do something about my sign? Go ahead and try, I dare ya.

HAIL TO THE REDSKINS.

Posted by: memyselfI1 | October 29, 2009 9:13 AM | Report abuse

Let’s face it: Snyder owns the team and aint selling it anytime soon. Still, fans need to send a message to Snyder and the world. Here are four very simple things to do:

1) Wear Black Shirts to the Games. NO burgundy and gold; NO white with burgundy and gold trim; just BLACK. As if we are in mourning for those glory days of yore -- which we are...

2) Enter the stadium 5 minutes AFTER kick-off so the TV networks get to show the backdrop of an empty stadium and explain why. Make our frustration with ownership and management THE story, rather than the game.

3) Trade Down at the Concession Stand: Small vs Large; Tailgate in the parking lot; have one less beer. It will all add up by season’s end.

4) When the referee prepares to explain a replay conclusion, chant "Dan Must Go" as loud as you can.


None of this will cause Dan to sell the team -- it’s his toy, after all. But, it’ll make us all feel better and we avoid the new "rules" related to signs and banners.


Posted by: chip7 | October 29, 2009 4:54 PM | Report abuse

We need to ban together, Washington Redskins brothers and sisters, and send Daniel Snyder a message - a sign he cannot take from us!! Pass along to any Redskins fans or ticket holders you know...

Blog: Fire Snyder Sign
Post: A FedEx Field Sign Snyder Can't Ban
Link: http://fire-snyder-sign.blogspot.com/2009/10/fedex-field-sign-snyder-can-ban.html

Posted by: A1232 | October 29, 2009 5:55 PM | Report abuse

My fondest moments being a fan of the Redskins:

1. Watching Doug Williams win the Super Bowl as a kid, rubbing the Redskins logo on my Starter jacket every time they got a first down or a touch down.

2. Singing "Hail to the Redskins" in my second grade music class over and over again.

3. Walking half a mile every Sunday to the chow hall in Iraq in full "Battle Rattle" to support the Redskins even though I had to lead a patrol the next day.

4. Taking my younger brother to his first Redskins game after I came back from my first tour in Iraq. We made it a tradition that we would do this everytime I came back.

Reading this story and all the comments didn't make me upset. Just sad and devastated that my childhood joy and the Redskins that I once knew and loved is now gone. I guess Cowboys ARE the better franchise.

Posted by: iJimi | October 30, 2009 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Let's organize a march downtown on the mall to protest Snyder and Donovan! Can we get 1 million people to show up like everyone else does for their protests?

That would be nice, but I swear these people don't understand the value of this asset is depreciating through the floor. It used to be worth $1.3 billion, but the've lost hundreds of millions in equity with the distain they show for the customers. Money is supposedly all they understand, so I hope they realize suing customers, banning signs, rude stadium staff, stupid concession prices, and a castrated coach is costing them money. It might be a few years before enough ticket contracts expire before they realize the fans have left due to the long term commits these contracts have, but they day will come in a few years when they face TV blackouts - mark my words!

Ask Lavar Arrington (they fraudulently changed his contract without telling him, then got him blackballed when he spoke up) if the players want to play for this organization. They can't have passion for playing with the office the way it's run. (And...they know the fans are outraged at Snyder in unity with them)

Finally, what big-name coach would ever come to this town with these idiot running the show? Cowler? Shanahan? Gruden? Anybody????

Posted by: FormerSkinsFan2 | October 30, 2009 1:28 PM | Report abuse

If you want to change the rule, just STAY HOME for a while.

The only complaint they will listen to is the Financial kind.

Posted by: cam411 | October 30, 2009 9:14 PM | Report abuse

I feel for our players on the team. Think of how frustrated they must be. We have a lot of great talent. It is the leadership that has really mucked things up.

If we want a new owner, I hear that Rush is looking to get involved in a team. He is a true football fan and loves the game. Now don't get started on the quotes that are floating around- he didn't say it. Sure would be nice to have an owner who loves the sport and is extremely successful in business!!

Posted by: LibertyJustice76 | November 3, 2009 9:49 AM | Report abuse

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