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DeAngelo Hall's W-L record isn't so great

(2006 photo by Streeter Lecka - Getty)

This is a big week for DeAngelo Hall. He's going to be far more involved in the Redskins' punt-return game. He's debuting a line of t-shirts. He's blogged about how the Redskins are like a wounded animal. And he has promised to cry if the Skins win in his return to Atlanta.

Which got me wondering, during the 44 minutes of awesomeness otherwise known as the Redskins Insider and Donut Podcast, about Hall's recent won-loss record. And, after the taping was finished, it got me wondering about his career-long won-loss record. I'm not in any way suggesting that Hall is responsible for any wins or any losses, but dang if this isn't a depressing story.

2004: The Falcons start his rookie season 5-1, although Hall records DNPs in the first six games. He plays in each of the final 10 games, and the Falcons close with a 6-4 stretch.

2005-2007: The Falcons go 19-29 in Hall's final three years in Atlanta.

2008: With Hall off to Oakland, the Falcons surge to an 11-5 mark. The Raiders, meantime, begin the season 2-6, and then cut Hall loose. He joins the 6-3 Redskins. The Skins scuffle to a 2-5 finish, while the awful Raiders actually close with a 3-5 stretch after Hall's departure.

This means that without Hall, the Skins and Raiders of '08 combined to go 9-8, and with him, they were 4-11. The Falcons, meantime, improved from 4-12 (with Hall in '07) to 11-5 (without him in '08).

2009: Hall and the Redskins get off to a 2-5 start. Over his last three seasons, his record after seven games has been 1-6, 2-5 and 2-5.

After his rookie season in Atlanta, Hall's suffered through four-and-a-half years at 25-45. That's got to be pretty depressing after a while.

By Dan Steinberg  |  November 3, 2009; 2:23 PM ET
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Brings a fabled history of succe ... er ... playing time to the Skins locker room.

Posted by: dcsween | November 3, 2009 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Wonder what his records were at Va Tech and in High School?

Posted by: mburns134 | November 3, 2009 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Guy is a Team Killer. MEangelo? Sometimes nicknames are there for a reason.

Posted by: johnvandermyde | November 3, 2009 3:20 PM | Report abuse

"I'm not in any way suggesting that Hall is responsible for any wins or any losses"

But really DS, come on? This is pretty inflammatory- there are so many other factors at play that it's ridiculous to frame these two as related.

If the story is- "man, teams with Hall seem to have some bad luck and that must be rough for him" ok. But this reads, "Hall makes teams worse."

Posted by: MyOpinionIs | November 3, 2009 3:44 PM | Report abuse

If this Dude played even half as well as he yapped, he would already be in the Pro Football Hall of Fame -- in a special wing for active players who have already clearly distinguished themselves as standing head and shoulders above all of the rest.

But all we've ever seen and heard from DHall is a relentless series of excuses about how he was only "this close" away from greatness.

Now we also gotta admit that a mouthy underperformer like this might stand out on any other team -- but not so here.

By mixing himself in with so many "alibi artists" like JC17, CP26 AH92 and several others -- as well as some hopeless losers like Yo Vinny and D-bag Dan -- we can see that he fits right in with the rest.

Unfortunately, this collection of jokers are more Duds than Dudes...

So Hail to the Dudskins! And fight for ol' "me, me"

Posted by: Vic1 | November 3, 2009 3:54 PM | Report abuse

The problem is you've got two guys who love to play man to man (Smoot, Rogers) and one guy who's at his best in zone (Hall). That means that whatever defense you're in, at least one of your starting corners is not comfortable with the scheme. [With teams increasingly going to three- and four-wide formations, the third CB is a de facto starter.]

The golden rule of coaching is putting your players in a position where they can be successful. By assembling the roster without regard to how the pieces fit together, the Redskins brass has made that nigh impossible for Greg Blache.

Posted by: tryks | November 3, 2009 3:58 PM | Report abuse

He's Deion Sanders 2009
Without the talent, consistent playmaking ability and shutdown skills.

Deion Jr. even wore #21 in the ATL
And then, like Deion, left for California, except that Deion was D player of the year with SF and won 2 rings as a non-tackling, but shutdown CB that ran back int's and punts and KO's for td's.

Clearly, not Hall's fault, but he surely is the Rod Strickland and Stephon Marbury of the NFL. For those who missed that one, teams got better when they left and wrose when they arrived - for some reason.

Posted by: kedavis | November 3, 2009 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Hey, the Saints record now is way better than when Archie Manning was playing. Guess that mean Archie Manning sucks and that getting rid of him was the key move for New Orleans.

Posted by: paperwc | November 3, 2009 4:33 PM | Report abuse

what is puzzling to me is how he has such an inflated view of himself...maybe the work of people such as al davis and dan snyder. how on earth does he think people want to read his blog (actually, his egotism is fairly amusing), buy his t-shirts or want to hear him tell you how good he is?

as far as examples about what's wrong with the redskins today go, he's probably exhibit b or c... (with the front office and o-line coming before him)

Posted by: bacaje | November 3, 2009 6:40 PM | Report abuse

What's that thing about causation and correlation?

Posted by: sitruc | November 4, 2009 9:05 AM | Report abuse

I'm not a big fan of Hall's but this argument is flawed. Wasn't he on that 2005 team the entire year, so why not give him credit for those 5 wins? That 2007 Falcon team was dealing with the loss of Vick and as a result their offense was terrible, should you give him "credit" for the 4-12 season? Not saying my arguments even make sense, and any way you slice it he ends up with a losing record, but with a position like CB, its not fair to look at overall win-loss record.

Posted by: tedunni1 | November 4, 2009 12:55 PM | Report abuse

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