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FedEx at kickoff



Since there was some level of online chatter about FedEx looking emptier than usual at kickoff Sunday afternoon, I went to the 400 level and took some pictures. Here they are. The announced crowd was 85,247, nearly 6,000 more folks than announcedly went to the Chiefs game and nearly 5,000 more than announcedly went to the Cowboys' last home game.

Now, I'm no good at estimating attendance in a 3,000-seat venue, much less a 90,000 one, and before you jump to any conclusions from these photos, read the caveats:

1) D.C. crowds are late arriving, in every sport, at every venue, on every day of the week.

2) By the end, it was an extremely loud and energetic and home-field-advantagish crowd, with nary a boo to be heard.

3) When these photos were taken, there were thousands and thousands of people still walking up the ramps and toward their upper-level seats.

4) If you wanted to pick on local franchises for attendance problems, what you'd do right now is wander up to the 400s during a Tuesday night home Wizards game, more than likely.

I'm just posting these because I was asked. Next time, I'll go take a look sometime late in the second quarter, which would be a much better measure.




By Dan Steinberg  |  November 16, 2009; 1:58 PM ET
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Comments

Thanks fopr the pictures. I think a lot of people have spoken with their wallets. Nice job fans!

Posted by: Riddler1 | November 16, 2009 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Was a late arriving crowd, but when Redskins ran the fake field goal/punt/timeout then do it again that place was electric. I saw people hugging each other, just lots of excited folks. Winning makes everything seem better and makes these idiots with banners and shirts and balloons like foolish. Come cheer for the Redskins and stop trying to change the world.

Posted by: davispond | November 16, 2009 2:30 PM | Report abuse

^One win and all the wrongs are washed away in your eyes? LMAO^

Posted by: Riddler1 | November 16, 2009 2:34 PM | Report abuse

davispond: These idiots with banners and shirts and balloons have gone through this way too many times to become complacent. Winning is everything when your a Redskins fan. We want to win enough to get us back to the Superbowl. Something we haven't had the pleasure of experiencing since "The Dan" took over the team. So are we Fed-Up, you're damn right. We have been coming to cheer for our team and will continue to cheer for our team and yes we can change the world.

Posted by: booboo117 | November 16, 2009 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Tons of empty seats just stay in the control of scalpers who can't or won't sell for cut rate prices. If there's any positive to this season, it's that ticket brokers are losing their houses over this.

Posted by: Kev29 | November 16, 2009 2:57 PM | Report abuse

I was in 421 and missed the first Bronco's TD. Tailgate went too long.

Posted by: Andymr | November 16, 2009 3:05 PM | Report abuse

Are those really empty seats or were people just wearing the same color tee-shirts as their seats?

Posted by: fushezzi | November 16, 2009 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Question: Does the National Football League count attendance the same way as Major League Baseball?

MLB's announced attendance, which is found in every game's box score, is based on the number of tickets sold and not on an actual turnstile count of the number of people who attend. If the NFL has the same policy, unused tickets would not reduce the announced paid attendance.

Baseball teams do a turnstile count, but that number is not released to the press or public. Again, do teams in the NFL do something similar?

Posted by: greggwiggins | November 16, 2009 3:22 PM | Report abuse

MLB's announced attendance, which is found in every game's box score, is based on the number of tickets sold and not on an actual turnstile count of the number of people who attend. If the NFL has the same policy, unused tickets would not reduce the announced paid attendance.

Posted by: greggwiggins | November 16, 2009 3:22 PM

Yeah, every pro league in America (to my knowledge) announces tickets sold (and in baseball I know that freebies don't count towards that).

And you can announce sell outs even though contractual luxury/club tickets were not sold (in the NFL).

I'd be willing to bet they all have a turnstile count though.

Posted by: Kev29 | November 16, 2009 3:35 PM | Report abuse

I'll guarantee they have a turnstile count. I'm sure it's the law that you know how many people you've got inside the stadium, and regardless, the front office would want this info.

I'm sure the hand-held ticket scanners aggregate the number of tickets scanned. The question to ask the Redskins is how many tickets they scanned.

Posted by: freakzilla | November 16, 2009 3:42 PM | Report abuse

The turnout was better than I had anticipated... my section was packed... only a few empty seats. If the weather was not sunny and 70 degrees, there probably would have been alot less people. The pictures don't always tell the true story because many fans hang out in the concourse. There was a decent number of Bronco fans in the stands, but it wasn't that noticeable because, in my opinion, Denver fans are not overly annnoying like Philly, Dallas and Pittsburgh.

Davispond - I agree 100%. I am sick of the banners/shirts. Hopefully the negative shirts and banners go away soon. It seems to be a small minority of people made up of mostly non-season ticketholders. The best way to get rid of them is with a skins win! HTTR!

Posted by: forsythe332 | November 16, 2009 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Leave it to the Skins. They can't even lose properly. They lose when they need a win and win when they need to lose.

Those who think that this win is a good thing are supporting the continued mediocrity of the team. The bottom line has been, is, and always will be that with Snyder and Cerrato at the helm, the Skins will be mediocre at best.

Posted by: Punisher703 | November 16, 2009 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Part of the problem for the late arriving crowd was Metro. There was track maintenance and delays of more than 30 minutes!

Posted by: Dougmacintyre | November 16, 2009 4:55 PM | Report abuse

regardless of any mitigating or delay factors in people getting in, those pics are embarrassing as a fan and should be embarrassing to the pea-brained owner. lots and lots of plastic visible in those shots, and that is what I was thinking watching the game on TV and specifically looking for attendance cues.

Posted by: greatteamdan | November 16, 2009 11:13 PM | Report abuse

I guarantee the Skins do a turnstile count. How else are they going to get an accurate body count for all the fans who are drinking the Synderato Kool-Aid (i.e. Jim Jones style) that actually believe in what Synderato is doing. And yes, this is Synderatoville, so there will be a charge for the Kool-Aid.

Posted by: regis429 | November 17, 2009 1:52 AM | Report abuse

MLB, NHL, NBA - Tickets sold.

NFL - Turnstile count.

Carry on.

Posted by: WebberDC | November 17, 2009 9:23 AM | Report abuse

Sunday was my 1st trip to FedEX this yr. Decent crowd and the noise was great when they came back. A good # of the FedEX crowd ain't there to watch the game. It's about the beer and getting up 10xs a game to stand in line for some over priced crap. 1/2 my row was up + down all afternoon so they could stuff their face with one more thing. The game is secondary to these clowns.

Posted by: TheDubb | November 17, 2009 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Stein :"2) By the end, it was an extremely loud and energetic and home-field-advantagish crowd, with nary a boo to be heard."


Ahh, so in other words, no real behavior change. Just a fanbase that was unhappy when the redskins lost (BUT STILL CAME TO GAMES) and got loud when their team was winning.


Sorry Dan, you failed.

Posted by: popopo | November 17, 2009 8:33 PM | Report abuse

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