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Riggins says Snyder is 'a bad guy'

There's been no harsher critic of the Redskins this fall than John Riggins, from his YouTube laceration of the Skins' front office to his hour-long skewering of the franchise on a WTOP town-hall program with Frank Herzog.

And yet just when you think he's brought all the ammunition he can muster, Riggo nudges the rhetoric up another notch or two. The Hall of Famer was a guest on Showtime's "Inside The NFL" this week, which first airs at 9 p.m. on Wednesdays. The network sent out a release with some of the quotes, which I'm quoting from here.

UPDATE: Rick Maese watched the program and passes along additional quote. They're filled in as appropriate, and marked with an *** to indicate what's new.

James Brown: "John, you have been pretty doggone outspoken on the Washington Redskins and what is not working. Maybe it is an obvious question, but why so passionate? Why so intense in terms of your critique or criticism of the Redskins?"

John Riggins: "First of all, it's what I do, JB. I have been in broadcasting for the last 15 to 20 years, so it is sort of my job. And the other part is, and I've been asked this question a lot, when they say do you have an ax to grind? And I think any time an older player criticizes or says anything about his former team, unless he's throwing Bon Mots at them, that all of a sudden you get a, 'What's he griping at?' type of thing. Maybe that's the case. But truthfully, I do have an ax to grind and I just realized I have been a little bit disingenuous. But this is a bad guy that owns this team. I'll just tell you that upfront. Bad guy. And if the Commissioner is worried about potential new owners and saying some of these guys shouldn't apply, he might want to police his own inside guys...."

Brown: "Why is he a bad guy?"

Riggins: "Because his business practices, I think. I don't want to say they are unethical, but I don't think it's a place, a climate that is created there where people can be successful. It's driven all by his ego and everything has to come from him. And I just don't think you can be successful in those situations and when you are dealing with someone with the mindset of a child and yet owns a franchise in the NFL. I think you have some problems there."

***Phil Simms: All these years you've been following the football team -- and I kind of follow the Redskins enough -- I haven't heard you even be close to this vocal. What did it this year that made you go, 'I've had enough?'

***Riggins: Well, you see the decisions that are made. There was a moment in time before the season, they had a big brouhaha about the tickets, about how tickets were sold. I don't know if you guys are aware of that. They were basically doing things that were a little underhanded. Underhanded may be a strong word. Certainly, as I said, it isn't really the protocol that you'd expect from a professional franchise. This is something where right away, a lawyer comes and starts talking about it, instead of the guy-- they're not visible, they have no responsibility, other than hiding behind the mantle of being an owner and taking all the good and refusing all the bad. We've seen what's happened the last two weeks down there with Jim Zorn and bringing in an outside consultant and now this guy's part of the play-calling, and it's just a circus and a joke. And the fans after 10 years have gotten to the point where they sense it and they've had enough.

Cris Collinsworth: "We are talking about Daniel Snyder . Are you saying in some way he is unethical? Because I have dealt with him in the past and I have never sensed anything close to that. Or are you saying he has made bad decisions on the football side as an owner? Or what is specifically the issue?"

Riggins: "I am saying that I don't think that this franchise can be successful where you have people saying, 'Oh, this person Dan Snyder wants to win. He wants to win.' It's all about priorities. 'What's my priorities? The priority is it's all about me. I have to have my needs met, then I want to make money, and those are one and two, and then I want to win. You can see by the decisions that are made....I don't know if you have agreed with anything I am saying so far, but at this point, I would think you would say, 'Yeah, I'll go along with that.' This person knows nothing about football, absolutely nothing. I don't think they have a clue how a football team comes together, how it works. And yet they are the ones that are basically calling all the shots through a puppet, which is Vinny Cerrato. That is my take on it....I speak for the fans because these are the people that paid my salary for all these years. They are the ones that need to know that this is a bad guy."

Collinsworth: "There is a fine line between being a bad guy and a bad GM, if you will. Are you saying a bad guy as in the NFL needs to take a look at this?"

Riggins: "Let me put it to you this way, Cris, this person's heart is dark."

***Brown: Let me state some facts here John and get your thoughts. In 10 years that Dan Snyder has owned the team, six head coaches....

***Riggins: Let me stop you there, JB. In all fairness, he inherited Norv Turner and then Terry Robiskie was an interim. So it's really four. He hired Marty Schottenheimer, he hired Steve Spurrier, he hired Joe Gibbs, and he hired Jim Zorn. Everybody says six coaches; I'll defend him on that. And remember this, I defended this person his first year or two in the league. Everybody across the country was jumping on him, 'Oh man, this guy is an upstart. He's bad news,' and all this stuff. I was saying give him a chance. He was very succesful in one operation. Usually those people can transfer that into another business or another corporation, whatever you want to call. And so I said, 'Give him some time, let him figure it out.'

***Brown: Even if you do that...even if you say, 'OK, four head coaches because Norv Turner, he inherited.' That was the year he won a division title then. Since then, not a division title, not a successful franchise for those four. You talk about selecting people. My question is, what do you think about their selection -- his and Vinny Cerrato's selection -- of Jim Zorn?

***Riggins: Once again, I think you hire a guy-- I remember Phil saying it last year, he's a tremendous quarterback coach. If you had a young son that you want somebody to coach, Jim Zorn would've been that guy. But remember, I think, it's a big leap, particularly when you don't really have the power and not necessarily the acumen, having built your way up to that from a quarterback coach all the way to the head coach of this franchise. You have to assume by now the manipulation that went on behind Jim Zorn's back or basically being told, 'Jim, this is what we're going to do.' I mean Jim Zorn could've very well said, 'Gee whiz, Albert Haynesworth's great, but we need offensive linemen. I've got a bad offense here. I've got to fix my offense.' But priorities weren't for that. Priorities were, 'Let's go out here and sign Albert Haynesworth so we can bandy about the headline that I paid -- me, big guy -- paid 40 million and all this owners, 'look at me.' I mean, it's all about, 'Look at me.'

Collinsworth: "Fix the Redskins. They make you the general manager tomorrow, who are you hiring as a coach?"

Riggins: "I can't answer your question realistically, because I couldn't be the General Manager with that ownership in place. I said I had an ax to grind. The ax to grind is that people need to know if you are going to go to these games and support this team, that money goes in this person's pocket. And you know what? Bad guys shouldn't be enriched."

***Brown: Two things. One, are you concerned -- and you have always been one to call it as you see it, clearly -- any concern about your outspokenness now and how this will impact one way or another your legacy as Redskin great?

***Riggins: You know, I'm not smart enough to think of that kind of stuff, JB. Honestly, when it's all said and done, it'll raise my status even higher. It ain't why I'm doing it. Sure it is. Of course it's why im doing it. It's all about me. Don't you guys get it? [Chuckles]

The Redskins, through a team spokesman, declined to respond to Riggins's comments.

By Dan Steinberg  |  November 4, 2009; 8:31 PM ET
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Riggo on the war path. Damn, he didn't hold back

Posted by: JDP_ | November 4, 2009 8:52 PM | Report abuse

Keep the pressure on. Riggo is speaking for a lot of fans and he is exactly correct.

Snyder wants to win badly. On his terms. He doesn't care to win in any traditional way. He wants to be seen as an innovator as opposed to using the tried and true formula for success.

What a clown.

Posted by: keino83 | November 4, 2009 9:07 PM | Report abuse

Riggins for President

Posted by: laxbigj | November 4, 2009 9:12 PM | Report abuse

aaaahhh, what does he know about football?

Faith in Danny!

Posted by: Leeguru | November 4, 2009 9:18 PM | Report abuse

I've never heard anyone who is not either employed by Snyder, or in some way has a financial or co-dependent relationship (i.e. media) with this owner ever say anything good about the man. Riggo may have gone a bit overboard but I am inclined to agree with him. The portrait that has been painted of Snyder over the past ten years of media reports, first hand accounts, and his own words is not a very flattering one.

Posted by: seriesoftubescleaner | November 4, 2009 9:25 PM | Report abuse

C`mon Riggo tell us how you really feel!

Posted by: vexed50verizonnet | November 4, 2009 9:32 PM | Report abuse

Thank you John Riggins, and to answer your question Cris yes a a dark person sues old ladies who are having tough times and then re sells the tickets, a dark person gets sued by his former sales reps for not paying commissions. A dark person tries to run Zorn instead of having the common decencey of firing him and paying his contract. Should I keep going ?

Posted by: dwbruce45 | November 4, 2009 9:36 PM | Report abuse

Riggins knows best.

Collinsworth, what a mushroom!!

Posted by: smtpgirl08 | November 4, 2009 9:39 PM | Report abuse

riggins really didn't have any reasons about why snyder's a "bad guy." i generally disagree with that...all i would say is that he is woefully inadequate as an owner.

on the other hand, i don't know if unethical is the right word, but someone who sues fans and prevents free speech within the stadium definitely reflects as poorly on the nfl as having rush limbaugh as a minority partner, i think...

Posted by: bacaje | November 4, 2009 10:01 PM | Report abuse

Riggins is nothing but a joke and showed it once again!! I loved the guy when he was running the ball for the Skins, but he has been trying to feed his OWN ego ever since and the fact is that he is basically irrelevant unless he comes up with head turning accusations!! (B. Mitchell is riding his coat tails!!)
Don't make the statement that Snyder is a "bad guy" or "unethical" and not have something to back it up!!
Congrats to Collingsworth for holding Riggins feet to the fire on that one!!
I'm not a huge Snyder fan and would love for them to find a solid GM (not the coach/GM that has failure written all over it!!), but to say that Snyder is only thinking about dollars is pretty idiotic!! He spends as much or more money than any other owner and regardless of his success, you can't say the guy is cheap or that he doesn't open up his checkbook!!
Go away Riggo!!! You flopped as an actor and your current gig is wearing thin as well!! Head back into the woods but just don't expect Joe Gibbs to come looking for you this time!!

Posted by: dkidwell61 | November 4, 2009 10:19 PM | Report abuse

wow. Dan Snyder was a senior in High School when Riggo ran for a 43 yd TD in XVII. Riggo was our hero, the biggest name on the Redskins. Theisman was never nearly as popular. Moseley was the MVP and but was a kicker. Manley had only had a couple of big plays at that point (tipping Danny White's pass to Darryl Grant in the championship game and knocking Danny White out of the game). And the only Redskin that can compete with #44, Saint DG#28, was still not drafted. Maybe someone on this blog can remember Sammy Baugh, but no one - not Sonny, certainly not Billy, not Pat Fisher, not Hanburger, not Huff, not even Ken Houston was a STAR like #44. Riggins was the personality, OUR F-ing CELEBRITY with his own signature series truck. Dallas Cowboys fans even loved Riggins for gods sake. Sonny may be a legend to many of the fans but Riggins, Riggins and ONLY Riggins made my immigrant mother fall in love with the team.

This has got to sting Dan Snyder. Thank you Riggins. Thank you thank you thank you.

And he did show some restraint in the interview. Yes, Riggins, that is exactly how I feel about the team right now. Until the bad man sells it, they get none of my money ever again. And I used to spend a lot on the Redskins....

Regards -

-hgr

Posted by: HughGRection | November 4, 2009 10:21 PM | Report abuse

for as tough as riggos is trying to be, he really needs to have his arguments better thought out and said...'he is a bad guy,' yeah dude, no duh, he sues his own fan base! why wasn't that even brought up? if you are going to take a stand, do it right man, just don't talk out of your ass, that's what the sports bog and redskins insider is for ^_^

Posted by: BMACattack | November 4, 2009 10:27 PM | Report abuse

John Riggins = EF Hutton, when he speaks everyone listens.

Posted by: freakinandpeakin | November 4, 2009 10:27 PM | Report abuse

Riggo, wow ... you spoke your mind to the nation! These snippets will be talked about and dissected for days and weeks to come. The pressure is ratcheting up on Mr. Snyder and I think his bottomline is going to suffer. I sense the possibility more than ever that he will be forced to change his ways, hire a legit GM at season's end, and step back a bit from total control and direction of the football operation.

I hope he hires Bruce Allen as Cerrato's replacement, properly empowers him, and then allows him to do a thorough coaching search. When the dust settles, I hope the next Redskins HC is either John Gruden or Russ Grimm. Both could be the face of this franchise for the next decade. This operation now will have to be cleaned out from the top to the bottom ... And that is a good thing!

Mr. Snyder, please repeat these words ... "I'm starting with the man in the mirror. I'm asking him to change his ways!"

Can I send you MJ's "Man In the Mirror" single on CD???

http://popup.lala.com/popup/504684667899518699

http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/michaeljackson/maninthemirror.html

MAKE THAT CHANGE cha'mon!

Posted by: gilk | November 4, 2009 10:28 PM | Report abuse

Clinton Portis Pockets Straight!

Posted by: rlomax67 | November 4, 2009 10:29 PM | Report abuse

@dkidwell61

You are a shill.....is David Donovan paying you?

Riggins is saying what needs to be said and the vast majority of true Redskins fans agree. I say keep it coming, and from all corners...Amen!

Posted by: jahs4fun | November 4, 2009 10:30 PM | Report abuse

Here's my quandry. I'd love to get a Riggins Redskins jersey, but I fear that would be enriching Snyder. Aye, there's the rub.

Posted by: TheCork | November 4, 2009 10:33 PM | Report abuse

Would D. Donovan think that this "negative behavior is differnet than past years" from Inside the NFL?

I believe that "actual fans" relate more to Riggo's rant than Donovan's lies.

Posted by: mb15 | November 4, 2009 11:09 PM | Report abuse

Hmmm, might be a nice time to reactivate "Riggo's Rangers" as a form of protest that Danny shouldn't have a leg to stand against!

If you must go to games, eat before you go in, wear camo hats and shirts and use paint or markers to write "Riggo's Rangers" on them in gold.

Posted by: ThinkingMan | November 4, 2009 11:09 PM | Report abuse

I got an official throwback riggo and Monk jersey in Dubai for $45. The best way to support the team and not the owner... The black market.

Posted by: AnthonyMix | November 4, 2009 11:12 PM | Report abuse

I don't know what the hell he's talking about but I'm with you Riggo!
But seriously, a guy with 15 years in broadcasting should have made a more convincing argument than that...

Posted by: priceisright | November 4, 2009 11:23 PM | Report abuse

Cork, here you go. Riggo jersey for $40 shipped:

http://www.bonanzle.com/booths/sandksellers/items/Washington_Redskins__44_John_Riggins_Jersey_Replica


Snyder won't see a dime, because it's a cheap knockoff from Korea. It's the same "Player of the Century" line of jerseys that are all over eBay, except this one seems to be shipping from inside the US. They're knockoffs of Mitchell & Ness jerseys, though I'm sure the quality isn't anywhere close to M&N.

(BTW, if you go to that site, don't be fooled by the "overstock" Mitchell & Ness Theismann jersey. I compared the photos to photos of a real one, and it's counterfeit.)

Posted by: freakzilla | November 4, 2009 11:35 PM | Report abuse

I've never heard anyone who is not either employed by Snyder, or in some way has a financial or co-dependent relationship (i.e. media) with this owner ever say anything good about the man. Riggo may have gone a bit overboard but I am inclined to agree with him. The portrait that has been painted of Snyder over the past ten years of media reports, first hand accounts, and his own words is not a very flattering one.

Posted by: seriesoftubescleaner | November 4, 2009 9:25 PM | Report abuse

@dkidwell61

You are a shill.....is David Donovan paying you?

Riggins is saying what needs to be said and the vast majority of true Redskins fans agree. I say keep it coming, and from all corners...Amen!

Posted by: jahs4fun | November 4, 2009 10:30 PM | Report abuse

Gee I wonder why you never hear anyone say anything good about the man...anytime you say something even remotely in defense of him you are attacked on the blogs as a "shill" who "must be employed by Snyder". I know, because I've been accused of these things when defending the guy in the past. To say he is a bad person because you had a bad business relationship with someone and have an ax to grind is beyond the pale, even for Riggins.

Posted by: Barno1 | November 4, 2009 11:49 PM | Report abuse

I will say this Barno1...was Riggo harsh? Yes. Did he cross the line of decency? Maybe. But is he wrong? From all of Dan's actions past and present, first hand, second hand accounts, etc...no, I don't think he is.

Posted by: walkdwalk | November 5, 2009 12:40 AM | Report abuse

We love you Riggo. We loathe you midget. I don't know if all the words Riggo used are the best descriptors; but "a bad guy" is spot on. Support the team, but don't buy tickets, merchandise, parking and concessions. Starve the midget.

Posted by: nolngeraseasontixhder | November 5, 2009 12:51 AM | Report abuse

I would not like to see Gruden as H/C. the only reason he got to and won the SB is on Dungy's shirt tails. Hasn't been back since or even been close. I really would like to see Grimm be the next H/C. He's "family" and should know how to draw up a true Skins gameplan of smash mouth football none of this pansy-ash west coast b/s.

The one thing that made JG1 successful was that he came to DC with a pre-westcoast style of offense under the tutelage of Air Coryell. Found out that he did not have the personnel for it and retooled everything and the Hogs, Fun Bunch, et.al., were born along with three SB championships. He would be able to get the best out of the players he had. Another aspect of his success was that he had a real GM in (first) Beathard and then Casserly.

Why does Riggo have to state the obvious that everyone knows already. When Buges came up with the new moniker sans HOGS he came up with "Dirt Bags". God love him... he must have been thinking about the Danny. Trying to mold the team in the image of its owner.

Someone or a group of loyal fans ought to do to the Danny what he has been doing to the fans. SUE his ASH. Bring a class-action on behalf of all the fans who pay the ticket/parking fees, to the fans that buy all of the paraphernalia.

Hopefully all of the media will jump onto the Trash the Danny Bandwagon and really throw the barbs. After signing Argon Darvon Sanders to that ridiculous contract and then retired at the end of one year, the Danny did not want to recoup the unearned money because he (the Danny) did not want to have Argon Darvon think badly of him. Even after he started playing for another team before his Skins contract was up.

The only thing the Danny cares about is his ego and making money. He does not care about the fans. What ever befalls him in the coming months/years he has certainly earned it.

Posted by: rillbizi | November 5, 2009 1:11 AM | Report abuse

I think the tone was set for the Redskins 2 days after he purchased the team, his first act was to fire 25 front office staff. All in an effort to get "his" people in there.

He fired a coach with 3 games left in the season and a chance to go to the playoffs.

He fired Riggins from his radio show. Snyder should not be surprised that Riggins would have harsh words for him. Riggins has it right, Snyder is a child, except when he throws a tantrum, he fires people.

Why would anybody want to work for this man?

I think that buying the $40 Riggins knockoff is a good idea. But knowing Snyder, he would probably have his thugs confiscate them at the door as counterfeit goods. Sorry for the rant.

Posted by: cbm1 | November 5, 2009 1:16 AM | Report abuse

he was right....no other way to put it..and yes, i have met dan...have worked under him...he is an underhanded a%% who cares only for himself...sorry

Posted by: nattylite88 | November 5, 2009 1:19 AM | Report abuse

Snyder says he is disappointed and apoligizes to the fans for the performance so far. But he doesn't address the underlying issue of poor upper management by himself and Vinnie Cerrato. Then he/they issue a league run survey to ticket holders (not all of them mind you) asking mostly questions about game day experience and very little about team performance. I submit survey back with heavy criticism and comment and the best I get back as a reply is " in the off season we will be working on an improved jumbotron, video displays and out of town scores." Gee at least we can see what real NFL teams are doing but I fear that an improved (larger?) jumbotron will making watching replays of poor plays that much more painful.

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Posted by: bbmcoachk | November 5, 2009 6:15 AM | Report abuse

i don't think ol' riggo "crossed the line." when you cross the line, that assumes that there is a line to begin with. snyder has ensured that there is no limit to the rage of redskins fans. and even if the line was crossed, SO WHAT? maybe that's the only way snyder and co. will listen... by getting slapped in the face in broad daylight.

Posted by: asdffdsa1 | November 5, 2009 6:26 AM | Report abuse

Two ideas:
A new form of protest should be the Riggo drill air horns that used to fill the air at RFK after rushing touchdowns (remember them? rushing touchdowns, not the air horns...)

SOMEBODY please make a shirt for the Burgundy Revolution modeled off of the ubiquitous Che Guevara image, except with Riggo in a beret. I'll pay $15

Posted by: minorthread | November 5, 2009 6:54 AM | Report abuse

now i know why i don't like chris collingsworth --- somehow, he can defend and praise dan snyder --- my god man, are you insane?

riggins is so spot on. snyder is such a bad guy. You can see it in his money grubbing eyes and hear it in his faked apology. god, i hate this man.

Posted by: bestmick1 | November 5, 2009 6:55 AM | Report abuse

Riggo is correct; the S man seems to think the difference in winning/losing comes down to a point of view; so he switches coachs/ideas like a small child re-aranging blocks; he'll get frustrated because he can't do it like an older child and then he'll cry and blame some situation other than maybe he just doesn't know how. S man U-don't know how ... let a helping hand come in and build the thing for you... you'll get a lot of applause my boy - my boy just chill

Posted by: aypub | November 5, 2009 6:57 AM | Report abuse

I love Riggo. And I hope he keeps the pedal to the metal.

Posted by: hessone | November 5, 2009 7:11 AM | Report abuse

Riggo is an idiot. Dan Snyder, a "bad guy?" He certainly has made "bad decisions" but in the context of the when the decisions were made they sure sounded good. Look how happy we are EVERY offseason. Things just don't pan out as expected and we get disappointed... then everyone blames Dan. Dan #1 passion is winning. A+ for effort, F for results. I disagree with EVERYONE, we have problems but its not Dan. Its the o-line, the head coach for not having the players maximizing their potential. Dan seems to be the only one giving it his all... people need to back off of Dan.

Posted by: RHorwat | November 5, 2009 7:13 AM | Report abuse

Dan Snyder is a classic, pathological narcissist. It is a medicinally untreatable personality disorder. He can be treated with intense therapy however if he chooses.

Posted by: hz9604 | November 5, 2009 7:23 AM | Report abuse

"in the context of when the decisions were made they sounded good?? !!! what are you taking and can we all get some? Please explain the great and wonderful situation that makes signing Jeff George and Deion Sanders and Steve Spurrier is a good decision. Please explain how gutting a front office of football people and replacing them with marketing people is a good decision. Please provide the great context for signing not one, but 2, count 'em 2 MORE RB when you best 2 OL guys go down--oh yeah they picked up levi jones and this week put another OL guy on the practice squad. And last, but not least, PLEASE someone tell us how NOT HAVING A GOOD GM is a good decision!!!!!

Posted by: drmammal | November 5, 2009 7:35 AM | Report abuse

Here's my quandry. I'd love to get a Riggins Redskins jersey, but I fear that would be enriching Snyder. Aye, there's the rub.

Posted by: TheCork

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ebay baby, Snyder won't see any money from that.

Posted by: torrey151 | November 5, 2009 7:42 AM | Report abuse

barno1,
The reason you get attacked is because you defend this team and it's management. Stop with your sugar coated response and wake up. Remember, you were the one that said the Redskins would have a winning season.WTF?

Posted by: hessone | November 5, 2009 7:43 AM | Report abuse

Is Cris Collingsworth in the Hall of Fame? No. Is John Riggins in the Hall of Fame? Yes. Enough said.

Posted by: hessone | November 5, 2009 7:50 AM | Report abuse

Maybe that sounded better than it read because it read like a rambling diatribe full of non sequitirs. I've read it a couple times and I still don't understand what he was tryint to say. Instead of supporting his arugment with the boatload of possible examples, he says "I am saying that I don't think that this franchise can be successful where you have people saying, 'Oh, this person Dan Snyder wants to win. He wants to win.' It's all about priorities. 'What's my priorities? The priority is it's all about me. I have to have my needs met, then I want to make money, and those are one and two, and then I want to win." What the hell is he talking about?

Posted by: cao091402 | November 5, 2009 8:14 AM | Report abuse

Thank You John. Well said.

Posted by: HelloNewman1 | November 5, 2009 8:18 AM | Report abuse

WOW!

Posted by: CHICO13 | November 5, 2009 8:21 AM | Report abuse

If you are still going to games, wear a Riggins jersey!

Posted by: bdeco | November 5, 2009 8:22 AM | Report abuse

OK Barno,

I'll take you up on whether Snyder is a bad person.

Suing season ticket holders? Taking fan signs away? Firing staff -- laying off 20 folks in the teeth of the recession because of "financial difficulties," then signing Haynesworth to a +$100 million contract? Cutting down trees not on his own property so he'd have a better view? Overcharging fans for parking, concessions? Mind you, this is all out there in plain view.

Posted by: Pepper5 | November 5, 2009 8:27 AM | Report abuse

The most telling thing about Dan Snyder is that no one is rushing to his aid. No one is coming out and saying, "No no no, he's really a decent guy once you get to know him." That is, no one is disagreeing with Riggo, which can taken as agreeing with him."

Posted by: ecglotfelty | November 5, 2009 8:27 AM | Report abuse

Owner's don't fire themselves so the best we can hope for is that Snyder gets his head out of his butt and gets a real GM. That would show that he is finally ready to move forward.

Posted by: dmacman88 | November 5, 2009 8:33 AM | Report abuse

Snyder responded with much dignity when Sean Taylor passed away, and players do say he cares about them as people, for whatever reason. Gibbs praised his charitable endeavors.

He might be an awful owner, but saying "his heart is dark" seems a little overboard.

Posted by: gadlut | November 5, 2009 8:33 AM | Report abuse

Hey barno1 = Cerrato is back!! Welcome back Vinny, PLEASE LEAVE SOON!!

Posted by: riceldi | November 5, 2009 8:34 AM | Report abuse

1 - The team is losing ugly to crappy teams.

2 - The management is messing with the fans - lawsuits, censorship, abject denial that there is a problem as well as a commitment to not improve the stadium experience in terms of getting in and out of the stadium.

Would 2 matter as much if we were 6-1? Perhaps not. However, the losing part was easily predicted given the suspect o-line and minimal upgrades to it over the offseason. But 2 really truly matters because the team is losing. Its one thing to continuously gouge for every extra penny when you put a great product on the field. But when you are selling crap, a bit of perfume spray will not mask the smell for long.

I agree that Dan is willing to spend the money to help the team win. So was JKC. But he has spent a tone of dumb money - money provided to the team from gouged fans - and not a whole lot of smart money. The "$8M-Deion-please-be-my-friend" payment was the org's cap money thrown away. I actually used to buy in to some of the FA signings - Archuleta, Jason Taylor, certainly Bruce Smith were signings tht I thought would elevate the team to the promised land. It did not work and it likely never will. AH will now tie up a disproportionate share of cap money which would fund a competent o-line in its entirety. I know how much it took to get me to turn on the ownership - the abuse of fans was the final straw. No money to Dan's wallet from me and I hope most of you do the same. For those of you who MUST go to hte game, bust out those ratty old #44 jerseys from the 80s and wear 'em loud and proud.

Regards -

-hgr

Posted by: HughGRection | November 5, 2009 8:37 AM | Report abuse

Bad guy, I don't know that about him. There are certainly a lot worse people out there. As a businessman, Snyder is very shrewd. In his private ventures he has been very successful. In the NFL, he brings in more revenue than any other owner. From that perspective, he is a successful businesman. So the question is, how can someone who built such a successful corporation be such a lousy owner?

The answer is simple.

Synder made his fortune in communications and advertising. A business based on fluff. Your product is sight and sound and your business model is about instant appeal. He has never built anything that had to last. The Redskins are the first real product he has ever owned. A product he bought with incredible brand loyalty. Its also a product that needs to be nurtured and enhanced to maintain it's viablity. Synder's business model has been the same. He slaps a new coat of paint on his product and sells it as new and improved. On the inside it's still that same old crapola. It's worked for a decade and he can't see why its the wrong approach. What he doesn't realize is that no matter how brand loyal people are, eventually they wise up. Once that happens Synder is going to find out the same thing GM did. Its a lot harder to win customers back, than it is to keep them.

Posted by: akmzrazor | November 5, 2009 8:45 AM | Report abuse

AMEN....BROTHER!!!!!
TELL IT LIKE IT IS!!!!!!

Posted by: dpena75 | November 5, 2009 8:51 AM | Report abuse

@hz9604: I'm no doctor, but narcissistic personality disorder is what I thought too. Let's look at the DSM IV criteria for Snyder:

1. has a grandiose sense of self-importance--check, obviously
2. is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty or ideal love (megalomania)--check, Super Bowl ring obsession
3. believes they are "special" and can only be understood by, or should associate with, people (or institutions) who are also "special" or of high status--check, see Tom Cruise
4. requires excessive admiration--check (sign ban)
5. has a sense of entitlement--check
6. is interpersonally exploitative--check, see treatment of coaches/players
7. lacks empathy--check, sues fans
8. is often envious of others or believes others are envious of him--check
9. shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes--check.

That's 9 for 9 symptoms.

Posted by: wbbradb | November 5, 2009 8:54 AM | Report abuse

Look for this announcement tomorrow: Snyder removes Riggins' name from the stadium and Washington Hall of Stars, attributes the decision to "security concerns."

Posted by: woody2471 | November 5, 2009 8:58 AM | Report abuse

i beleive grimm would be a good head coach. he would kick players ashes for not playing to their abilities and bench the ones that do not play up. i would not agree on gruden being hc. grimm would put marko in instead of sitting him on the bench. it is time for the skins to stop this gibbs stuff of not playing rookies.

Posted by: rls1041 | November 5, 2009 9:06 AM | Report abuse

@dkidwell61

You are a shill.....is David Donovan paying you?

Riggins is saying what needs to be said and the vast majority of true Redskins fans agree. I say keep it coming, and from all corners...Amen!

Posted by: jahs4fun | November 4, 2009 10:30 PM | Report abuse
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And you are just pathetic!! I guess you consider yourself a "true" Redskins fan and therefore able to judge whether others meet your stantard!! What ever that is and if it exists!!

Posted by: dkidwell61 | November 5, 2009 9:07 AM | Report abuse

"Snyder responded with much dignity when Sean Taylor passed away, and players do say he cares about them as people, for whatever reason. Gibbs praised his charitable endeavors.

He might be an awful owner, but saying "his heart is dark" seems a little overboard.

Posted by: gadlut | November 5, 2009 8:33 AM

Yes no question Snyder "loves" the players until he decides to "break up" with one of them. Then it's ugly.

Posted by: Pepper5 | November 5, 2009 9:09 AM | Report abuse

always entertaining to hear what Riggo has to say. no sugar coating on that one! I don't think personally that he went out of line, I would like to smack Snyder in his face and tell him "GROW UP YOU SPOILED BRAT!" been a Skins fans since the 60s and this kid who owns this franchise needs flat out an old fashion spanking!

Posted by: datruth21 | November 5, 2009 9:09 AM | Report abuse

@wbbardb
That is a great list of narcissistic criteria. As for number 8 and 9, if you would permit me to fill in the examples:

8. is often envious of others or believes others are envious of him--check, see Jerry Jones worshiping.
9. shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes--check, see the continuation of Vinnie Cerrato on the pay roll.

Posted by: JohnWWW | November 5, 2009 9:13 AM | Report abuse

Oh, he has an ax to grind? First time I figured that.

Do you even think Riggo understands the huge jump he is making between idiotic personnel decisions and egoism (which most people will admit is Dan Snyder's problem) and saying someone is a "bad person"? When 'football at the center of the universe' mentality skews someone's judgement this badly, it becomes a clear sign that they are not the people you want making personnel or managerial decisions in the future.

*Obligitory Affirmation of Redskins Fanhood since I was 8 inserted here*

Posted by: TheGreat8 | November 5, 2009 9:20 AM | Report abuse

there are plenty of stories, i'm sure, that would confirm Riggo's conclusion. I know of one: Redskins hired one of the big auditing firms to do whatever they do. Snyder set the auditing crew up in one of the racquet ball courts at redskins park. They had all their stuff in there - desks, paper, computers. One day, he decided that he wanted to play a game of racquet ball. He ordered that they remove all their gear from the court so he and vinny could get in a game. This kind of behavior permeates his management of the 'skins. It shows a lack of respect other people, and a need to constantly demonstrate to people that he is the "big" man.

Posted by: ZardsFan1 | November 5, 2009 9:21 AM | Report abuse

Collinsworth must have never saw this video if he questioned Riggo on Daniel Snyder as being a "bad guy":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=es9nvnvQ0dk

Posted by: JohnWWW | November 5, 2009 9:22 AM | Report abuse

"Snyder responded with much dignity when Sean Taylor passed away, and players do say he cares about them as people, for whatever reason. Gibbs praised his charitable endeavors.

He might be an awful owner, but saying "his heart is dark" seems a little overboard.

Posted by: gadlut | November 5, 2009 8:33 AM

Yes no question Snyder "loves" the players until he decides to "break up" with one of them. Then it's ugly.

Posted by: Pepper5 | November 5, 2009 9:09 AM | Report abuse
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Which player are you speaking of that it turned ugly?? Just curious

Posted by: dkidwell61 | November 5, 2009 9:24 AM | Report abuse

Riggins scores another clutch SuperBowl TD!
This may be the start of the next superbowl victory for the redskins. Calling Snyder out will either make him change his ways or make him deal the team when people stop 'enriching' him! Either way this is the highlight of the season!!!

WE CAN BUILD ON THIS !!!!

Posted by: SmokeyBandit | November 5, 2009 9:26 AM | Report abuse

It's really simple - Snyder wants to be like Jerry Jones. Jones is the only owner - besides Snyder - who is his own GM. Of course, Jones is leaps and bounds more football intelligent than Snyder.

Posted by: ScottChallenger | November 5, 2009 9:33 AM | Report abuse

How disgusting to see my earlier comment bracketed by an anti-semitic double-post. BESTMICK1, you are far worse than any penny-ante jerk owner of a football team.

Let's get on-board with the revolution, but prejudiced haters can stay at home and whack to the memories of beating up kids in junior high.

Posted by: positiveforce | November 5, 2009 9:39 AM | Report abuse

Crank up that diesel,,,,Ha-Ha-Ha

Riggo flattened Snyder,,,in the same manner he flattened Don McNeil.


Thank you Mr.Riggins

Posted by: dashriprock | November 5, 2009 9:39 AM | Report abuse

Crank up that diesel,,,,Ha-Ha-Ha

Riggo just flattened Snyder,,,,,


Thank you Johnny

Posted by: dashriprock | November 5, 2009 9:42 AM | Report abuse

Why is it that John Riggins is the only real outspoken critic along with maybe Brian Mitchell? Everyone else is kissing Snyder's rear.

Posted by: jcollell | November 5, 2009 9:49 AM | Report abuse

How long before Riggins jerseys are BANNED at FedEx????? HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

Dannyboy doesn't "get it" and NEVER will. That's why he'll NEVER be able to hire a GM or coach that actually KNOWS football. He'll continue to hire wannabe servant lapdogs because those are the only people that will bow to him.

Posted by: bundy44 | November 5, 2009 9:50 AM | Report abuse

HEY WASHINGTONPOST SPORTS EDITOR(S):

I THINK YOU HAVE FOUND YOUR NEXT "GUEST' FOR DOING A LIVE CHAT???????? MAKE IT HAPPEN.

I think more former Redskins greats need to blast into Snyder like Riggo is. Riggo knows how to win in this league, as do many other former Redskins. Maybe that can wake up Snyder. Probably not, but maybe.

Posted by: factor71 | November 5, 2009 9:57 AM | Report abuse

Riggo, Riggo, Riggo… you know we love you dude, but what are you trying to say, spit it out man! But I have a comment about one of your comments… “I do have an ax to grind and I just realized I have been a little bit disingenuous.”. OK, I do agree with you about Snyder, but when you say that “I just realized I have been a little bit disingenuous…” are you talking about when you quit doing “The John Riggins Show” on Sports Talk 980 when Snyder bought out all of the “talent” to host on his own stations in an attempt to quiet down the noise about him and the team a few years back?

Posted by: oda155 | November 5, 2009 9:58 AM | Report abuse

Collinsworth: "There is a fine line between being a bad guy and a bad GM, if you will. Are you saying a bad guy as in the NFL needs to take a look at this?"
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Yes! The NFL needs to take a look at this.

Posted by: mrhonda | November 5, 2009 10:00 AM | Report abuse

I agree with everything Riggins said. Having said that, I would not urinate on Riggins if he was on fire. I ran into him skating with his daughter at Fairfax Ice Arena. I would not have approached him at dinner but at an ice rink I thought it was OK. beside I have met many current and past players who are just down to earth people. I said hello to Riggins and he never looked me in the eye, never spoke and held his hand out like queens do so you may kiss it. I was so angry I was hoping he would let go of the rail he was holding on to with his small daughter and actually skate. Then I would have skated by and kicked his skates out from underneath him.
I am not nearly the size he is but I have played hockey all my life so sending this arrogant basterd to the ice would have been easy. F Riggins.

Posted by: chopin224 | November 5, 2009 10:01 AM | Report abuse

Which player are you speaking of that it turned ugly?? Just curious

Posted by: dkidwell61 | November 5, 2009 9:24 AM | Report abuse
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See:
Coles, Laveranues
Arrington, LaVar

Posted by: walkdwalk | November 5, 2009 10:03 AM | Report abuse

It's really simple - Snyder wants to be like Jerry Jones. Jones is the only owner - besides Snyder - who is his own GM. Of course, Jones is leaps and bounds more football intelligent than Snyder.

Posted by: ScottChallenger | November 5, 2009 9:33 AM | Report abuse
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True. And even then, the on field success is only fair to middlin'. Really something to aspire to, huh.

Posted by: walkdwalk | November 5, 2009 10:06 AM | Report abuse

Oh the horror... the horror!!!

Posted by: really9 | November 5, 2009 10:06 AM | Report abuse

Riggins is still a winner. The question is how do we make Snyder the loser he has made the Redskins?

Posted by: edeshields | November 5, 2009 10:08 AM | Report abuse

Folks, what you do with a Nazi pig like Bestmick is click on the "report abuse" button and report him which is what I did. You know if this clown picked on Jews he is a pansy who would not face real men. He needs someone to look down on.

Posted by: chopin224 | November 5, 2009 10:13 AM | Report abuse

Don't want to be defending Snyder but... Has Riggins taken up drinking again?

Posted by: glynnjp1 | November 5, 2009 10:15 AM | Report abuse

Riggins is spot on. This is the Riggins "evil empire" speech. Snyder is a bad guy. He has no idea how to act and he treats people horribly, to wit:
- Massive turnover. He cannot keep employees. Employees see him up close, vote with their feet. Big red flag.
- Offered a chance to praise Art Modell, he insulted the guy, publicly.
- He humiliates people. He did not need to announce publicly that Zorn was stripped of playcalling duties; that could have been handled quietly. Also, remember the vanilla ice cream incident with Coach Nolan? Who does such rotten things to other people, if not someone with a dark heart?
- His contracting practices are, at best, borderling unethical. See the guy who said they promised him he could buy lower bowl season tix if he re-upped for club seats. That was not an isolated incident. It happened to others, too.
- He has his people lie for him. Does anyone believe Donovan's statement that a few overzealous employees were to blame for making fans take off their T-shirts? I do not. It was a premeditated effort to avoid Snyder getting embarrased on National TV. Yet Snyder has no problem humiliating others (see above).

This is a bad guy with a dark heart. Riggins is dead on.

You might not care how Snyder treats people, but the reality is he cannot sustain a winning team by bullying and mistreating people. Football is a people business. If you mistreat your people, they leave. Good people have options and won't stay for long. He will always be stuck hiring people who (a) want a quick payday and have no intention of staying; or (b) substandard employees who have no other options.

Posted by: Hobbes3 | November 5, 2009 10:17 AM | Report abuse

I did not mean to imply Jews are not real men. I love Jews and know several who could knock your block off. Truth is I detest all organized religion but if I ever did choose one to belong to it would be the Jewish religion.

Posted by: chopin224 | November 5, 2009 10:17 AM | Report abuse

Right on, Riggo!

Posted by: Max231 | November 5, 2009 10:21 AM | Report abuse

Well said, Riggs. First, Dan's needs must be met, including maintaining revenue streams - THEN he wants to win. So saying Dan's a fan doesn't count for much. The place is poisoned by a child's egotistical needs - the black hole vortex sucking the life force in toward implosion.

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | November 5, 2009 10:27 AM | Report abuse

He's gonna get whacked. I wonder if Snyder would even let him - probably one of the best known and liked Redskins ever - in the stadium.

Everyone knows Snyder's an arrogant jerk and that he cares more about $ than about the team winning. It's good to have someone say it publicly.

Posted by: hacksaw | November 5, 2009 10:29 AM | Report abuse

How long before Riggins jerseys are BANNED at FedEx????? HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

Dannyboy doesn't "get it" and NEVER will. That's why he'll NEVER be able to hire a GM or coach that actually KNOWS football. He'll continue to hire wannabe servant lapdogs because those are the only people that will bow to him.

Posted by: bundy44 | November 5, 2009 9:50 AM | Report abuse
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Yeah, Gibbs and Schottenheimer....two wannabe serant lapdogs if I have ever seen one!!

Posted by: dkidwell61 | November 5, 2009 10:30 AM | Report abuse

Preach it Riggo!

Posted by: pathmo | November 5, 2009 10:37 AM | Report abuse

Which player are you speaking of that it turned ugly?? Just curious

Posted by: dkidwell61 | November 5, 2009 9:24 AM | Report abuse
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See:
Coles, Laveranues
Arrington, LaVar


Posted by: walkdwalk | November 5, 2009 10:03 AM | Report abuse

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I fail to see the connection!! Coles requested a trade after complaining about Gibbs' "conservative" offense and Arrington had issues with Greg Williams over his inability to play within the system and not freelance.
In neither case did Snyder create the negative atmosphere.

Posted by: dkidwell61 | November 5, 2009 10:41 AM | Report abuse

I dunno, I sort of feel sorry for the guy. The way you feel sorry for the awkward kid who doesn't know how to ask a girl out. Snyder desperately wants to win -- I know there are idiots here who keep saying he doesn't, but they're idiots -- but he can't seem to pull it off. And he clearly doesn't know why.

I don't put much stock in likeability. Who really ever liked Al Davis? Jerry Jones? The Glazers? The Bidwills? Georgia Frontiere? Last time I looked, they all had Super Bowl rings. OK, Arizona lost, but you get my point.

Are they smarter than Snyder? He can probably run rings around them. Sure, he's got a big ego, but so do the rest. It's not a club for the shy.

Snyder has shown he can build a team that gets to the playoffs every so often. He can't seem to take the next step. I imagine that's killing him. Here's a guy who has defied the odds to succeed in some of the toughest businesses there is. Except the one business he genuinely long to succeed in. And his football team hasn't won anything.

Would we benefit from a new owner? Sure. Unless it's one that's worse than Snyder.

Don't laugh. It can happen.

Posted by: Samson151 | November 5, 2009 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Riggo speaks the truth and much better than anyone else I've read.

Anyone criticizing him comes across as wishing he'd include nice words like "allegedly" and "supposedly." And yeah, you want daisies to grow in January. But unlike the Napoleon wannabee, you've got the right to express your voice in this forum: go crazy.

Posted by: Leofwine | November 5, 2009 10:43 AM | Report abuse

Riggins is correct - Snyder is a "bad guy". And that doesn't mean bad gm or anything else. It means bad person. If you talk to anyone who has worked for and interacted with them (by them I mean he and his wife), such as contractors working on their home or nannies/housekeepers you will get the picture of these people. I've spoken to these types of people and across the board the stories are extremely unflattering. These "new money" billionaires do not have any class and don't know how to treat people with respect. Glad Riggins isn't sugarcoating anything.

Posted by: jeffmayfield | November 5, 2009 10:46 AM | Report abuse

If anyone has followed Riggin's broadcasting career (from his radio shows in NY/NJ, to the channel 4 Redskins show to his current stuff).......methinks you would take anything he says with a grain of salt....He is the picture of someone who has an axe to grind.

He's not the brightest bulb out there and it has showed in his shows that he's often inflammatory to get attention. He was a star RB in the NFL....of course he loves the spotlight.

His animosity towards the Redskins has been prevalent even when Snyder was a brand new owner.

Maybe they didn't invite him to something...that's all I can say.

I think it's one thing to say someone is a bad GM or a bad owner....but to call someone inherently evil or bad with no real justification. Yeesh.

Some people could say the same about Riggins just by the acts of his past.

Posted by: GoonieGooGoo | November 5, 2009 10:50 AM | Report abuse

Riggins is correct - Snyder is a "bad guy". And that doesn't mean bad gm or anything else. It means bad person. If you talk to anyone who has worked for and interacted with them (by them I mean he and his wife), such as contractors working on their home or nannies/housekeepers you will get the picture of these people. I've spoken to these types of people and across the board the stories are extremely unflattering. These "new money" billionaires do not have any class and don't know how to treat people with respect. Glad Riggins isn't sugarcoating anything.

Posted by: jeffmayfield | November 5, 2009 10:46 AM | Report abuse
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Funny, but I have heard just the opposite!! More than willing to use their money in the community and keep to themselves for the most part.
Probably the reason you don't hear much from them other than from the Washington Post that has a well known bias against Snyder.

Posted by: dkidwell61 | November 5, 2009 10:51 AM | Report abuse

"Coles requested a trade after complaining about Gibbs' "conservative" offense and Arrington had issues with Greg Williams over his inability to play within the system and not freelance."

It was pretty funny, really; Coles complained they weren't using him enough after a year where he caught 90 balls. A good guy but a strange one.

Gregg Williams annoyed LaVar the way Gregg annoys nearly everybody who plays for him, but turned out Arrington had been freelancing so long he just couldn't make the transition. So it goes.

Posted by: Samson151 | November 5, 2009 10:51 AM | Report abuse

It's one thing for the little guys to say what they want about Dan Snyder, something else when Riggins goes out on a limb, with a gutless interviewer no less (Collinsworth).
Riggo still has it.

Posted by: kls1 | November 5, 2009 10:53 AM | Report abuse

I would follow Riggo into Redskins Park with torches blazing anyday. Lead the revolution, Riggo. Lead away!

Posted by: Randy_Hawkins | November 5, 2009 10:55 AM | Report abuse

It's one thing for the little guys to say what they want about Dan Snyder, something else when Riggins goes out on a limb, with a gutless interviewer no less (Collinsworth).
Riggo still has it.

Posted by: kls1 | November 5, 2009 10:53 AM | Report abuse

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You only go "out on a limb" when you have something to lose!!! Riggins is a non-factor these days and is only trying to insert himself into the conversation so that he can have his ego stroked during some interviews.
I'm sorry, but what has Riggins done lately to become the "source" for anything Redskins???

Posted by: dkidwell61 | November 5, 2009 10:57 AM | Report abuse

The Fan needs to give Riggo a spot.

Posted by: ridgely1 | November 5, 2009 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Riggins = 1 Super Bowl ring
Collingsworth = 0
Snyder = 0

'Nuff said.......

Posted by: iamasofaking | November 5, 2009 11:13 AM | Report abuse

Aaahh... longing for the days of "The Squire".

Dan, do everyone a favor and sell the team.

Posted by: rg019571 | November 5, 2009 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Riggins = 1 Super Bowl ring
Collingsworth = 0
Snyder = 0

'Nuff said.......

Posted by: iamasofaking | November 5, 2009 11:13 AM | Report abuse

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Based on that thinking:

Gibbs= 3 rings

Nothing bad to say.

So does that mean checkmate??

Posted by: dkidwell61 | November 5, 2009 11:19 AM | Report abuse

What Riggo said is from his heart because he cares about this franchise like all of us die hard fans do. The bottom line is not to feed Danny boys pocket which Riggo says and until that happens, midget could care less about you the fans and the Redskin experience. Don't put your hard earned money into Snyder's pocket but let's be realistic, there will always be a sucker who will do it based on emotion and compulsiveness. May God help the Redskins.

Posted by: mofares | November 5, 2009 11:22 AM | Report abuse

Fellows, please keep your bigotry comments out. This will only help Danny and you will lose any credibility. Let’s keep it about Danny the owner of the Redskins…

He has a dark heart, he treats people badly. The Sean Taylor stuff was also a PR move and Joe Gibbs was involved in most of it.

I don’t think why you guys think we can’t get rid of him - all of his other businesses have failed. Stop spending money on redskins merchandise, stop going to the game, he will go bankrupt within a year, he is losing money in every other business he has gone after. He will be forced to sell….

Let’s start the revolution….

Posted by: capitolteacher | November 5, 2009 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Duh Riggo isn't as dumb as the normal ex NFL jock.

If he went into any more detail about Snyder he would have been sued for defamation of character and maybe libel and slander who knows with Danny Boy.

Just think 35 years at least with Danny as owner.

Can we trade Zorn for Coughlin!

Posted by: sheepherder | November 5, 2009 11:27 AM | Report abuse

Aaahh... longing for the days of "The Squire".

Dan, do everyone a favor and sell the team.

Posted by: rg019571 | November 5, 2009 11:15 AM | Report abuse
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Ah yes, you mean the "Billionaire Bully"!! You do remember that he had waves of detractors himself!! As I recall, Riggo had less than flattering things to say about him at times.

Posted by: dkidwell61 | November 5, 2009 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Fellows, please keep your bigotry comments out. This will only help Danny and you will lose any credibility. Let’s keep it about Danny the owner of the Redskins…

He has a dark heart, he treats people badly. The Sean Taylor stuff was also a PR move and Joe Gibbs was involved in most of it.

I don’t think why you guys think we can’t get rid of him - all of his other businesses have failed. Stop spending money on redskins merchandise, stop going to the game, he will go bankrupt within a year, he is losing money in every other business he has gone after. He will be forced to sell….

Let’s start the revolution….


Posted by: capitolteacher | November 5, 2009 11:23 AM | Report abuse
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Please tell me that you are not really a teacher!!!!!
Opinions are great, but if you are going to spew things out as fact, at least make certain they are marginally accurate!!!

Posted by: dkidwell61 | November 5, 2009 11:30 AM | Report abuse

Does Riggo have a personal axe to grind with Danny? When you spend like these team does to barely make the playoffs there is something wrong and now you have the collapse. Campbell has never been the right guy to QB this team so who is to blame there?

Get a new GM and coach and hope Daniel Snyder sells the team. I have felt this way for many years!

By the way F-CK the loser BestMick1!

Posted by: GoingGoingGone | November 5, 2009 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Pretty offensive by Riggins. People's beef with him is that he wants to win, but is going the wrong way about it, not hiring the proper football guys. To say that makes him a bad guy is pretty lame.

The bad guys in my opinion are the franchises throughout sports that pocket revenue sharing and TV money and take it out of the team into personal profits rather than spend it to make the team competitive.

Posted by: ggreenbaum | November 5, 2009 11:38 AM | Report abuse

Riggins is a man/man who tells it like it is. Cris Collinsworth is a spineless whimp. I agree that Riggins does says thing that are entertaining, but his is usually on the mark with his comments. I would pay big bucks to see Riggins at a Danny Snyder roast!

Posted by: cpl59h | November 5, 2009 11:51 AM | Report abuse

Bravo, Mr. Riggins!! Well said. Thank you for taking on Daniel ASSHAT $nyder. It has got to sting so bad that someone he grew up cheering has turned on him.

Please keep it up. Daniel $nyder has destroyed the game day experience and sold it to the highest bidder. He has taken the fun out of seeing a professional football game all for the sake of milking the people that pay the bill - the fans.

F@CK DAN $NYDER. He is a worthless piece of feces.

Posted by: VeloStrummer | November 5, 2009 11:52 AM | Report abuse

I don't know. I didn't hear Riggo bashing the Danny when he was on Snyder's payroll at Redskins Radio. But having said that, I do believe Snyder has a Napoleon complex with all the things that come with it.

Posted by: poguesmahone | November 5, 2009 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Riggo was speaking about the "visceral" reaction people get from Snyder. It can't be logically explained, but you know something's not right. Skins fans don't have the guts to do what needs to be done! Cancel you tickets, stop supporting this travesty! Better to see the Skins sink that support this dysfunction. Eventually he'll sell, and we can jump back on board. Till then...

Posted by: Donald8 | November 5, 2009 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Pretty offensive by Riggins. People's beef with him is that he wants to win, but is going the wrong way about it, not hiring the proper football guys. To say that makes him a bad guy is pretty lame.

The bad guys in my opinion are the franchises throughout sports that pocket revenue sharing and TV money and take it out of the team into personal profits rather than spend it to make the team competitive.

THANK YOU. Unlike most everyone here I do agreed with you.
We have a good product on the field and the fickle fans don't see it.
As far as Mr. Riggins, another sore ex employee. Owners like Mr. Snyder have no mercy on the weak. SO he had to go.

Posted by: Incognito00 | November 5, 2009 11:54 AM | Report abuse

Riggins has been and will always be one of my favorite redskins but I diasagree with him on Snyder. Tell me how many Skins fans thought he was a bad guy at the beginning of last season when Daniels goes down a week before the season starts and he pulls off a trade for future HOF Jason Taylor? No other owner would do what he did. Sure it didn't pan out like we hoped but he gave us HOPE! I think Snyders is young and learning as a owner. He needs a good quality GM, not Vinnie, and possibly a coach and then he just stays out of the football business until they come and say we need a ???? because so and so just got hurt. Or we need draft picks. I'm giving Snyder time to grow but he does need to change those around him and not be involved in any decision making other than $$$. Riggins unfortunately is probably gone as an announcer!!

Posted by: billymac1 | November 5, 2009 11:55 AM | Report abuse

This is the best posting I’ve seen yet:

Synder made his fortune in communications and advertising. A business based on fluff. Your product is sight and sound and your business model is about instant appeal. He has never built anything that had to last. The Redskins are the first real product he has ever owned. A product he bought with incredible brand loyalty. Its also a product that needs to be nurtured and enhanced to maintain it's viablity. Synder's business model has been the same. He slaps a new coat of paint on his product and sells it as new and improved. On the inside it's still that same old crapola. It's worked for a decade and he can't see why its the wrong approach. What he doesn't realize is that no matter how brand loyal people are, eventually they wise up. Once that happens Synder is going to find out the same thing GM did. Its a lot harder to win customers back, than it is to keep them.

My take:

Snyder is an arrogant and dismissive person, overly confident in his ability to run a business. His other ventures beyond marketing have been failures. Business at Six Flags dropped 30% the year after he gained operational control. He and his pal Mark Shapiro stated they didn’t realize how damaged the brand was. Yeah, you damaged it in just a year and the stock is now near worthless. The only thing he has done successfully with the Redskins is to commercialize and further market every aspect of the team. But from the start, sacking the old front office staff when he came in to “restore” the redskins to greatness....please, just who do you think built that franchise to greatness? The same people you just fired. The petulant way he has treated his coaches (only showing professional deference to Gibbs). He is a spiteful man full of the worst kind of hubris as evidenced by his every move with this organization.

Posted by: TheWingedShield | November 5, 2009 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Thank God this is getting out to the public. John Riggins has always been a little outspoken, but, he is in my opinion absolutely right on about "speaking for the fans". I can't wait to watch this interview on showtime. Who the F does Dan Snyder think he is banning signs from the stadium??? He's a little HITLER that's who. HE IS EVIL>>>RIGGO IS RIGHT!!

This franchise is being run into the ground by an ego-maniac that has absolutely no clue on how to run a football operation. He is basically running it as I would if I owned it....like a fantasy football team. This can not go on.

I am a season ticket holder who drives 3 hours from Pennsylvania to watch what amounts to High School Football..Pew wee football for that matter can be more entertaining.
I'll tell you one thing, I will not renew my season tickets next year. It has turned into a Joke. I've sold as many of my seats that I can this year...YOU CAN'T GIVE THESE TICKETS AWAY!!

DANNY YOU FEEL SORRY FOR THE FANS >>>> MY ASS!! Danny Boy's MO is to make a splash in the off season in order to keep fans signing up for season tickets. Mark my words he'll have some big name coach come in to "SAVE THE FRANCHISE". Everyone will think HERE WE GO WE'RE BACK......As long as Lil HITLER has a say in what happens we will continue to be "THE LAUGHING STOCK OF THE NFL"

Signed
A 40 YEAR FAN.......NO MORE
PS:DANNY.....TAKE YOUR SIGNS AND YOUR SEASON TICKETS AND SHOVE THEM UP YOUR ASS

Posted by: tmaloney1 | November 5, 2009 12:01 PM | Report abuse

As a Redskins fan for 30 years, I really like what John Riggins is saying because "the bad guy" comment will get the attention it needs. We have an owner, that like to see himself as the central reason why we have won a Superbowl. not the coach, not really the players coming together, but that the owner has spent his money to assemble a championship team. Dan Syder First, team success second. This is a bad formula. and wow we haven't won that championship either.

Posted by: jamesmorganp | November 5, 2009 12:03 PM | Report abuse

Snyder is an arrogant and dismissive person, overly confident in his ability to run a business. His other ventures beyond marketing have been failures. Business at Six Flags dropped 30% the year after he gained operational control. He and his pal Mark Shapiro stated they didn’t realize how damaged the brand was. Yeah, you damaged it in just a year and the stock is now near worthless. The only thing he has done successfully with the Redskins is to commercialize and further market every aspect of the team. But from the start, sacking the old front office staff when he came in to “restore” the redskins to greatness....please, just who do you think built that franchise to greatness? The same people you just fired. The petulant way he has treated his coaches (only showing professional deference to Gibbs). He is a spiteful man full of the worst kind of hubris as evidenced by his every move with this organization.


Posted by: TheWingedShield | November 5, 2009 11:56 AM | Report abuse
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Just curious how many successful business owners you have observed who are not confident in their abilities???
Can you name any who have not had failing businesses but have learned and moved forward?
Is success in marketing the Skins easy?? Could you have done it with the success that Snyder has?
You mention how he has "handled his coaches", but besides Turner, who he later apologized and said that he made an emotional decision that was a mistake at the time, who are you speaking of?

Posted by: dkidwell61 | November 5, 2009 12:05 PM | Report abuse

I'm giving Snyder time to grow but he does need to change those around him and not be involved in any decision making other than $$$. Riggins unfortunately is probably gone as an announcer!!

Posted by: billymac1 | November 5, 2009

$nyder's had ten years to grow a winning team. The only thing that has grown since $nyder bought the team is his investment. How can folks be so blind? Here we go again:

BOYCOTT $NYDER AND CHANGE WILL FOLLOW!!!!
BOYCOTT $NYDER AND CHANGE WILL FOLLOW!!!!
BOYCOTT $NYDER AND CHANGE WILL FOLLOW!!!!
BOYCOTT $NYDER AND CHANGE WILL FOLLOW!!!!
BOYCOTT $NYDER AND CHANGE WILL FOLLOW!!!!
BOYCOTT $NYDER AND CHANGE WILL FOLLOW!!!!
BOYCOTT $NYDER AND CHANGE WILL FOLLOW!!!!
BOYCOTT $NYDER AND CHANGE WILL FOLLOW!!!!
BOYCOTT $NYDER AND CHANGE WILL FOLLOW!!!!
BOYCOTT $NYDER AND CHANGE WILL FOLLOW!!!!
BOYCOTT $NYDER AND CHANGE WILL FOLLOW!!!!
BOYCOTT $NYDER AND CHANGE WILL FOLLOW!!!!
BOYCOTT $NYDER AND CHANGE WILL FOLLOW!!!!
BOYCOTT $NYDER AND CHANGE WILL FOLLOW!!!!
BOYCOTT $NYDER AND CHANGE WILL FOLLOW!!!!

Posted by: hessone | November 5, 2009 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Go Riggo go! Stay on his butt like a pit bull.

Posted by: affirmativeactionpresident | November 5, 2009 12:09 PM | Report abuse

He's a little HITLER that's who. HE IS EVIL>>>RIGGO IS RIGHT!!

tmaloney1,
Riggo didn't call $nyder Hitler and neither should you. Can it already with that garbage.

Posted by: hessone | November 5, 2009 12:13 PM | Report abuse

As a Redskins fan for 30 years, I really like what John Riggins is saying because "the bad guy" comment will get the attention it needs. We have an owner, that like to see himself as the central reason why we have won a Superbowl. not the coach, not really the players coming together, but that the owner has spent his money to assemble a championship team. Dan Syder First, team success second. This is a bad formula. and wow we haven't won that championship either.

Posted by: jamesmorganp | November 5, 2009 12:03 PM | Report abuse

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Funny, but how did you arrive at this??? I mean step back, no matter what your opinion is of Snyder, and ask the question if Snyder really does put himself before the team????
I think you are wrong!!! Unlike many owners, he doesn't make appearances on the field during the game or have endless press conferences. In fact, he rarely gives interviews at all.
He spends more money on his team than any other owner, which is what the fans should want, yet is criticized for it.
I think you have an owner who views his ability to acquire the best talent available as his role in building a team.

Posted by: dkidwell61 | November 5, 2009 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Our only hope is that Danny moves the team to Los Angeles, and we get a new franchise with new owner and that we keep the Redskins brand in Washington. A franchise team would be better than the product that Danny Boy has given us. At least we would have hope with a franchise. It would be a good deal for Danny too, he'll be closer to his pal Tom and Kate Cruise.

Posted by: cpl59h | November 5, 2009 12:28 PM | Report abuse

To dkidwell61: here's how I arrived at this:

He spends money irrationally. The Redskins have one of the worst ratios of salary expense to wins. That is the sine qua non of dumb decisionmaking. Spending money alone does not make a good owner. Spending money wisely does.

He humilitates, bullies and mistreats people. That defines "bad person." And, ultimately, he cannot win that way.

He cares more about being in charge than winning. If winning we paramount, he'd hire a good GM and leave him alone.

Posted by: Hobbes3 | November 5, 2009 12:33 PM | Report abuse

People don't know this about contracts:

they often have a pair of clauses:
1) party cannot say anything bad about the organization or anyone connected with the organization unless subpoenaed.
2) party cannot disclose an agreement exists not to say anything bad about organization or people.

Once you sign this you can't say anything bad, and you can't take the fifth saying you can't say anything bad or you'll be breaking your contract. It's a really bad clause but people sign 'em all the time.

My money says Gibbs signed one.

Posted by: kls1 | November 5, 2009 12:35 PM | Report abuse

When NFL player's, coaches, front office, and fans react to $nyder the way they have I think the writing is on the wall. Don't you think so?

BOYCOTT EVERYTHING $NYDER FOR CHRIST SAKE!!
BOYCOTT EVERYTHING $NYDER FOR CHRIST SAKE!!
BOYCOTT EVERYTHING $NYDER FOR CHRIST SAKE!!
BOYCOTT EVERYTHING $NYDER FOR CHRIST SAKE!!
BOYCOTT EVERYTHING $NYDER FOR CHRIST SAKE!!
BOYCOTT EVERYTHING $NYDER FOR CHRIST SAKE!!
BOYCOTT EVERYTHING $NYDER FOR CHRIST SAKE!!
BOYCOTT EVERYTHING $NYDER FOR CHRIST SAKE!!
BOYCOTT EVERYTHING $NYDER FOR CHRIST SAKE!!
BOYCOTT EVERYTHING $NYDER FOR CHRIST SAKE!!
BOYCOTT EVERYTHING $NYDER FOR CHRIST SAKE!!
BOYCOTT EVERYTHING $NYDER FOR CHRIST SAKE!!
BOYCOTT EVERYTHING $NYDER FOR CHRIST SAKE!!
BOYCOTT EVERYTHING $NYDER FOR CHRIST SAKE!!
BOYCOTT EVERYTHING $NYDER FOR CHRIST SAKE!!


Posted by: hessone | November 5, 2009 12:44 PM | Report abuse

I AGREE THAT SNYDER IS A FILTHY HUMAN BEING....

HOWEVER, RIGGINS USED TO TALK A LOT OF CRAP ON WTEM BEFORE SNYDER BROUGHT HIM OVER TO XXX ESPN RADIO, THEN HE SAID NOTHING, THEN HE GOT FIRED, AND NOW HE IS BITTER.... THAT STILL DOES NOT CHANGE THAT SNYDER IS A PIECE OF YOU KNOW WHAT....

Posted by: BarackObama | November 5, 2009 12:56 PM | Report abuse

To dkidwell61: here's how I arrived at this:

He spends money irrationally. The Redskins have one of the worst ratios of salary expense to wins. That is the sine qua non of dumb decisionmaking. Spending money alone does not make a good owner. Spending money wisely does.

He humilitates, bullies and mistreats people. That defines "bad person." And, ultimately, he cannot win that way.

He cares more about being in charge than winning. If winning we paramount, he'd hire a good GM and leave him alone.

Posted by: Hobbes3 | November 5, 2009 12:33 PM | Report abuse

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Please!! Don't try using ratios since they, like any statistic, can be used to make any point.
What irrational move did he make with his money??
Who did he "Bully"?? "Humiliate"?? (Two descriptions, may I remind you, that were attributed to the late Jack Kent Cooke!!)

Posted by: dkidwell61 | November 5, 2009 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Why is this news??? Riggins has hated Snyder forever.....everybody knows this.

Posted by: GoonieGooGoo | November 5, 2009 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Snyder now has an opportunity to prove Riggins wrong by holding a press conference in which he admits that change is needed and spells out the details of that change.

Posted by: stephenaltobelli | November 5, 2009 1:08 PM | Report abuse

I AGREE THAT SNYDER IS A FILTHY HUMAN BEING....

HOWEVER, RIGGINS USED TO TALK A LOT OF CRAP ON WTEM BEFORE SNYDER BROUGHT HIM OVER TO XXX ESPN RADIO, THEN HE SAID NOTHING, THEN HE GOT FIRED, AND NOW HE IS BITTER.... THAT STILL DOES NOT CHANGE THAT SNYDER IS A PIECE OF YOU KNOW WHAT....

Posted by: BarackObama | November 5, 2009 12:56 PM | Report abuse
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I'm amazed at how judgemental some folks here are. And obviously uninformed!!
You blanket yourself with the "Obama" name, yet he has given a fraction back to the community that Snyder has.
Do you consider this when you make your claims or is it all about wins and losses???

Posted by: dkidwell61 | November 5, 2009 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Several commenters have stated... "it would be nice if you could fire the Danny or that he be replaced somehow" and they were told that it is not possible.

Someone please correct me if I am wrong here but one of the Pats former owners was "forced" to sell the team because of some kind of irregularities.

We can only hope, Right?

Posted by: rillbizi | November 5, 2009 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Riggo needs to get on a show as the color guy. No one is better than him giving the alternate view!

Posted by: richs91 | November 5, 2009 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Riggo needs to get on a show as the color guy. No one is better than him giving the alternate view!

Posted by: richs91 | November 5, 2009 1:21 PM | Report abuse

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He's done the Redskins pregame/ postgame shows in the past with Frank and Sonny. I never felt he offered much which is probably why he is where he is.
From his mohawk days to his Sandra Day O'Connor shtick, he is heavy on attention, light on substance.
He played football....that is what he did best!!

Posted by: dkidwell61 | November 5, 2009 1:46 PM | Report abuse

um if you sue elderly people just because you can - you are a bad person. Anyone who doesn't thinks so is also a bad person or inexcusably dumb. Rigo gets a chance to speak for the fans and people say he crossed the line. No, that was Pretzel Boy who doesn't let fans speak who crossed the line. Finally, the man has had a lot of head trauma and was never the brightest so he may not be the best speaker but we get the point.

Posted by: doesntmatter | November 5, 2009 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Just a few thoughts:

A fool and his money are soon parted. (When you have a couple Billion I guess it takes a little longer.)

Hey Diesel - don't sugar coat everything. Tell everyone how you really feel.

I am sure therehave been a few other sports team owners as clueless as the Danny. There really is only one Prerequisite to being a great owner that leads teams to championships and financial prosperity. The one rule is, "Hire a good GM and get the hell out of the way!"

If he wants to take care of the advertizing and promoting so be it. That is what he does.

Posted by: rillbizi | November 5, 2009 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Greg Blache decided to break his recent silence with the media and talk about Riggins! Blache where you been? All these coaches need to be thrown OUT! LOSERS

Posted by: LongTimeSkinsFan | November 5, 2009 2:12 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if there is going to be the same voting blitz this year like last year

Posted by: rillbizi | November 5, 2009 2:16 PM | Report abuse

im just going to go ahead and point out the obvious here. dkidwell it's obvious that you have an agenda and that your job here is to defend Snyder. Every time he sends one of you, it's the same format:

1. you know the redskins aren't doing that great and that you have some problems with the outcomes (transparent)...

2. but it's really not snyder's fault, and ultimately

3. you're still a huge redskins fan

Then everything that follows that first comment is just basically a temper tantrum as you realize that it's not possible to influence independent people on these message boards. Also you can't just go rip off a danny talking point with accusations of bias by the post. That's a giveaway too. I only mention this so that you can improve.

Posted by: batigol85 | November 5, 2009 2:20 PM | Report abuse

To dkidwell61:

Money spent versus wins: This is not a "statistic." It is a fact. Total salary dollars compared to wins. One of the worst in the league over the last ten years. It is a figure that reflects return on assets, which is a standard measure of success. You cannot debate it. He spends a lot but does not win in proportion to the amount he spends. That defines dumb decisionmaking.

Examples of irrational spending: Are you kidding me? He overspends on a few players and neglects depth and areas of need. Here are a few: Deion Sanders, Bruce Smith, Mark Carrier, Adam Archuleta, Brandon Lloyd, Jeremiah Trotter, Jason Taylor, he gave Janson a huge contract when he was clearly on the downside of his career, Portis - same, I would argue that it was a mistake to pay Haynesworth so much when there were glaring needs for depth along the offensive line. You can debate individual players but you cannot debate the overall numbers -- he spends way more than the return he gets.

Humiliating people: Examples abound. How about publicly announcing he's taking away Zorn's playcalling duties -- if he wanted to do that, that should have been handled quietly. Instead he issued a press release. There is no reason to do that except if you want to embarass the guy. Putting vanilla ice cream by Nolan's office -- there is no reason to do that other than to humiliate the guy in front of his colleagues and players. Publicly insulting Art Modell. He was offered a chance to praise Modell and instead insulted him. Yelling at Norv Turner after an emotional loss, in the training room where all his players could hear. Awful thing to do to a person. Undermining, bullying. The suing of fans is using the legal system to bully people. These are just the things we know about. The guy has no idea how to behave or treat people.

I have no idea if JKC was a bully. But the proof is in the people around them. Did JKC attract good people who stayed? Absolutely, yes. JKC evidently knew how to value people, and he attracted top people and kept them happy for years. Look at how many people have come and gone from Snyder's organization. Remember David Cope? I do. He was hired to be the Marketing Director with great fanfare, and the guy left within a few months. There was a report about the huge number of people who had left the organization a few years after Snyder took over, and turnover has been huge. That tells a lot. People do not stay to be bullied if they have choices. They vote with their feet. Bubba Tyer even noted that Snyder mistreated people and drove them away. Snyder is left hiring people who have no intention of staying and are there to collect a quick payday, or substandard people. That is already happening.


Posted by: Hobbes3 | November 5, 2009 2:39 PM | Report abuse

im just going to go ahead and point out the obvious here. dkidwell it's obvious that you have an agenda and that your job here is to defend Snyder. Every time he sends one of you, it's the same format:

1. you know the redskins aren't doing that great and that you have some problems with the outcomes (transparent)...

2. but it's really not snyder's fault, and ultimately

3. you're still a huge redskins fan

Then everything that follows that first comment is just basically a temper tantrum as you realize that it's not possible to influence independent people on these message boards. Also you can't just go rip off a danny talking point with accusations of bias by the post. That's a giveaway too. I only mention this so that you can improve.

Posted by: batigol85 | November 5, 2009 2:20 PM | Report abuse
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beep

Posted by: walkdwalk | November 5, 2009 2:42 PM | Report abuse

im just going to go ahead and point out the obvious here. dkidwell it's obvious that you have an agenda and that your job here is to defend Snyder. Every time he sends one of you, it's the same format:

1. you know the redskins aren't doing that great and that you have some problems with the outcomes (transparent)...

2. but it's really not snyder's fault, and ultimately

3. you're still a huge redskins fan

Then everything that follows that first comment is just basically a temper tantrum as you realize that it's not possible to influence independent people on these message boards. Also you can't just go rip off a danny talking point with accusations of bias by the post. That's a giveaway too. I only mention this so that you can improve.

Posted by: batigol85 | November 5, 2009 2:20 PM | Report abuse

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batigo185
Obviously you are dead wrong!!
I really don't get your "temper tantrum", but as with the rest of your posting, it is just about throwing as much junk up as possible with the hope that something sticks!!
You are right, I am a huge redskins fan and imagine, from the immaturity of your post, that I have been for many more years than you. I certainly don't agree with many things Snyder has done, so your "agenda" theory is pure fiction.
Regarding the Post bias, you would need to either be totally ignorant of the history between the two or intentionally turning a blind eye if you didn't acknowledge the bad blood between the two. Do some research.....I only mention this so that you can improve!!!

Posted by: dkidwell61 | November 5, 2009 2:44 PM | Report abuse

haha you don't even seem like a bad guy. everyone's got to get paid, i understand.

Posted by: batigol85 | November 5, 2009 2:53 PM | Report abuse

haha you don't even seem like a bad guy. everyone's got to get paid, i understand.

Posted by: batigol85 | November 5, 2009 2:53 PM | Report abuse
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It would be great if I was getting paid!! Actually spending time today on the computer sending out resume's, etc!!

Posted by: dkidwell61 | November 5, 2009 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Riggins is a bitter SOB!! He got canned by Snyder and he doesn't have a radio show anymore. That's the bottomline. Snyder isn't a bad person at all. Cerratto is our problem. The so called "puppet" of Snyder's needs to get the criticism and then Snyder will fire the guy. Snyder wants to win and satisfy fans. Period!! If WE...the fans...say Cerrato must go guess what. He's outta here. But, we like picking on the young rich short Jewish guy. Hmmmmmmmm.....strange. I'm a Laker fan and appreciate an owner who's willing to open up his wallot. That's what a owner should do. Riggins needs to aim his gun at the right person but he bitter because he got canned by the man. His rant therefore has no merit and is totally opinionated. Riggo is starting to act like an old drunk.

Posted by: kentonsmith | November 5, 2009 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Riggins says he is said what he said because he has an ax to grind. Greg Blache, on the other hand, says he said what he said because he wouldn't feel like a man or be able to talk to his kids if he didn't speak up today.

Here are Blache's comments:

"This morning when I came in, and I turned my computer on and I was looking at Pro Football Talk, and I saw comments that John Riggins made about Mr. Snyder. And it really bothered me, the more I sat there at my desk. There's been a lot of criticism of him over the last few weeks. And this is a man I've known for six years, since I've been here. And in the six years, I've never seen John Riggins here. I met him once at Beach Blitz down in Virginia Beach. Never seen him in the building.

"To hear such a vicious criticism of somebody I consider not just my employer, but a good friend, bothered me. And as much as I hadn't been talking to you, I felt like this is something I needed to do. Somebody needed to stand up and set this record straight. This person, the comment that was made, a 'dark heart,' that's totally, totally untrue. The problem is the fans don't get to know Mr. Snyder like we do, so they get an impression of things that are written and things people say. I'll tell you something from a person who's been here for six years who's gone to him for things that I've needed in my family, there's times that he's come to me when he's heard about issues in my family, and offered his assistance. It's unsurpassed. He's one of the most generous, kind individuals you'll ever meet. My wife and I are involved in hospice, and there's been countless times he's come and helped us with issues with hospice. So to see that and get the feeling that that's what everybody on the outside gets to hear about this person, I just felt like it was time for somebody to stand up and set the record straight. I decided that I was going to do it, I was going to do it today because it's enough. I mean, it really is. We've had criticism from other people outside the building, saying what Dan Snyder is and what he isn't. You don't know Dan Snyder, and that's the problem.

"Do I agree with everything that Dan Snyder does? No, trust me. Because he and I, we work together. And I'm not going to tell you that this is a utopia. There's no utopias in football, there's no utopias in life. At the same time, enough's enough. Every story, there's one person's side, there's another person's side and behind it all, there's a third side and it's the truth. I just thought it was time for somebody to come and just throw a little truth out there.

TO BE CONTINUED IN NEXT POST

Posted by: Barno1 | November 5, 2009 3:06 PM | Report abuse

GREG BLACHE ON SNYDER CONTINUED:

"We keep hearing these other sides, these other factions, and to be quite candid, the third side - the truth - this person, all he wants to do is win. That's all he wants to do. He'll spend his money, he'll spend his time. He wants to win. He's here for the people, for the fans, for the Washington Redskins. There's nobody who's pained more when we're not successful than Dan Snyder. There's nobody that cares more about the fans than Dan Snyder, there's nobody who wants to win here more than Dan Snyder.

"I just think it's time to be put out there, it's time that you guys understand that everything that's wrong with this organization is not Dan Snyder. It's so easy for the people who held... a microphone every day to point fingers and shuffle it off somewhere else. But at the same time, I'm in a ton of those meetings when decisions are made. And so a lot of the things that wrong, you can't go back and somehow it was so-and-so's fault because that's how those comments were made. So just to set the record straight, I think it was wrong. I wish the best for Mr. Riggins and all his endeavors or whatever he does. But for me, that was enough. And I just felt like for me to wash my face in the morning and to feel like a man or to talk to my kids about doing the right thing, I needed to come here and make that comment today.

"I've got no other interest in it. I have a contract for next year, so it's not like I'm trying to make something up. If they send me home, the way coaches' contracts are written, they have to pay me anyway. So quite honestly, this is unsolicited. But from the heart, just something I just felt I needed to do. Thank you."

Posted by: Barno1 | November 5, 2009 3:06 PM | Report abuse

riggo can diss Snyder's actions all he wants, but to say the man has a DARK HEART?!?!?! that's effed up, any way you cut it. and to choose a national program to air your views?? clearly a product of a psycho dude that's broke and looking for ways to spark interest in his opinion.

Posted by: kman2 | November 5, 2009 3:07 PM | Report abuse

EXCELLENT POST


Nice job coach. I also think that people who have no idea what they are talking about should keep quiet, but Riggins has never done that. We embraced him because he could carry the rock. Fact is behind that line you and I might have done as well. His next claim to fame is passing out on the floor of a congressional luncheon and disrespecting a supreme court justice. We assume that becaues he played he must know what he is talking about. But the facts are as the coach said, he has never even seen him at Redskins Park. Riggins admitted several times during the interview he has an ax to grind. Who knows for what.

The real question is how slow a NFL news week is it when national shows can find nothing better to talk about than the Redskins owner on a bye week.

Posted by: dbrine1261 | November 5, 2009 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Barno1 | November 5, 2009 3:08 PM | Report abuse

Horrible interview by Inside the NFL. 5 seconds of research would have shown them why Riggins hates Snyder. You want to know why Riggins hates Snyder? Because Snyder cancelled his radio show and fired Riggins. Riggins didn't mind Danny Boy two years ago when he had a radio show.

I like Riggins but he came off as a whining prick on Inside the NFL

Posted by: chirsch | November 5, 2009 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Dikidwell,

All your observations are correct. Now get on the "let's fire Vinny" bandwagon[uh..that's right there isn't one] and thank our lucky stars we have an owner with money and ready to spend it.

All of your observations about our the Skin picks are right....SO WHY IN THE HECK DON'T YOU PEOPLE HAVE A PETITION GOING TO GET RID OF VINNY?

Why do Skins fans protect Vinny and spit on Danny? Does it have anything to do with who goes to church on Saturday's versus Sunday's?

Posted by: kentonsmith | November 5, 2009 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Here is the video: http://tinyurl.com/yfmm4d7

Posted by: cbm1 | November 5, 2009 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Dikidwell,

All your observations are correct. Now get on the "let's fire Vinny" bandwagon[uh..that's right there isn't one] and thank our lucky stars we have an owner with money and ready to spend it.

All of your observations about our the Skin picks are right....SO WHY IN THE HECK DON'T YOU PEOPLE HAVE A PETITION GOING TO GET RID OF VINNY?

Why do Skins fans protect Vinny and spit on Danny? Does it have anything to do with who goes to church on Saturday's versus Sunday's?

Posted by: kentonsmith | November 5, 2009 3:18 PM | Report abuse

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Unfortunately you have two types of folks who are jealous at Snyder being a self-made billionaire.
You have the type that try to artificially pump themselves up and the others who just try to tear the other person down.
I'm not saying you can't be critical of Snyder and his past actions, but don't ignore the times in which he has publically acknowledged his mistakes or the positive things he has done, particularly in the community. To make a statement that he has a "dark heart" is pretty pathetic in my book!
My biggest fear is that Snyder will make a big hire at head coach and, once again, allow him to handle the GM slot as well.

Posted by: dkidwell61 | November 5, 2009 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Fans will come around again to empty their pockets to mr. Snyder. It doesnt matter who he sues, how much parking cost, how much a beer cost, how much tickets are you'll all will still be here next season...That's the genius of Mr. Snyder. He knows what he has and he knows that all this publicity will only benefit his business.Afterall, this is all a publicity stunt, just like getting Haynesworth the Redskins ( refered here on out by me as the Business) where all over the media.

Posted by: Incognito00 | November 5, 2009 3:28 PM | Report abuse

@ dkidwell61:

While Coles was not blameless, I would certainly say that Snyder stepped over the line, and absolutely created a negative atmosphere. See:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A18520-2005Mar8

Coles said that he knew that things reached the point of no return two weeks ago after a phone conversation with Snyder, who, Coles said, threatened to make life miserable for him if the team was forced to bring him back. Coles said that Snyder was angry that the wideout had initially caused the trade with the Jets for Moss to collapse on Feb. 26 by demanding a contract extension.

"He said: 'If you come back here, you'll never play again,' " Coles recalled, adding that Snyder promised to send him a flat-screen TV on which to watch games. " 'We'll bench you for two years then we'll cut you.' He said: 'If you come back, we'll torture you.' "

"Once he was threatening me, I said to myself: 'Man, I know I have to leave.' I knew I couldn't come back because of the way they handled it."

Coles said that he was so disturbed by Snyder's remarks that he called later. "I said. 'Why would you threaten my career? I've done nothing wrong,' " Coles said. "And [Snyder] admitted that he was being emotional."

Posted by: member5 | November 5, 2009 3:32 PM | Report abuse

btw.....Cerrato took away the play calling duties not Snyder. However, the paranoid "Synder is the Devil" folks have assumed this was at the request of Danny Boy. SMH...

Folks can't make up their minds on this on.

It's Vinny folks....not Danny.

People love to hate Danny because he's young and rich. Vinny is no Bobby Bethard. That's our problem folks. Heck...Vinny isn't even a Casserlly.

GET RID OF VINNY AND LEAVE SNYDER ALONE!!!!

Posted by: kentonsmith | November 5, 2009 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Funny, but how did you arrive at this??? I mean step back, no matter what your opinion is of Snyder, and ask the question if Snyder really does put himself before the team????
I think you are wrong!!! Unlike many owners, he doesn't make appearances on the field during the game or have endless press conferences. In fact, he rarely gives interviews at all.
He spends more money on his team than any other owner, which is what the fans should want, yet is criticized for it.
I think you have an owner who views his ability to acquire the best talent available as his role in building a team.

Posted by: dkidwell61 | November 5, 2009 12:17 PM |
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Posted by: lantallen | November 5, 2009 3:40 PM | Report abuse

@ dkidwell61:

While Coles was not blameless, I would certainly say that Snyder stepped over the line, and absolutely created a negative atmosphere. See:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A18520-2005Mar8

Coles said that he knew that things reached the point of no return two weeks ago after a phone conversation with Snyder, who, Coles said, threatened to make life miserable for him if the team was forced to bring him back. Coles said that Snyder was angry that the wideout had initially caused the trade with the Jets for Moss to collapse on Feb. 26 by demanding a contract extension.

"He said: 'If you come back here, you'll never play again,' " Coles recalled, adding that Snyder promised to send him a flat-screen TV on which to watch games. " 'We'll bench you for two years then we'll cut you.' He said: 'If you come back, we'll torture you.' "

"Once he was threatening me, I said to myself: 'Man, I know I have to leave.' I knew I couldn't come back because of the way they handled it."

Coles said that he was so disturbed by Snyder's remarks that he called later. "I said. 'Why would you threaten my career? I've done nothing wrong,' " Coles said. "And [Snyder] admitted that he was being emotional."

Posted by: member5 | November 5, 2009 3:32 PM | Report abuse

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An account by Coles himself is what you are going to use??
Sorry, but I remember the entire Coles saga and he created the negative atmosphere from the start!!
The Skins made a huge commitment to Coles and he started to complain early in the season. He acted like a spoiled jerk the entire season which spilled over into the off-season.
Coles would have us believe that that supposed conversation with Snyder in February created the "point of no return"!! Sorry, but that happened long before that! The only thing was how to make a trade work with the cap implications.
I, personally, would have said the same thing to Coles or any other spoiled player effecting the team.

Posted by: dkidwell61 | November 5, 2009 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Funny, but how did you arrive at this??? I mean step back, no matter what your opinion is of Snyder, and ask the question if Snyder really does put himself before the team????
I think you are wrong!!! Unlike many owners, he doesn't make appearances on the field during the game or have endless press conferences. In fact, he rarely gives interviews at all.
He spends more money on his team than any other owner, which is what the fans should want, yet is criticized for it.
I think you have an owner who views his ability to acquire the best talent available as his role in building a team.

Posted by: dkidwell61 | November 5, 2009 12:17 PM |
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Posted by: lantallen | November 5, 2009 3:40 PM | Report abuse
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Great Post!!! Sure you can't enlighten us with more misinformation??

Posted by: dkidwell61 | November 5, 2009 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Look we are talking about football here, we are talking about the way this organization is run to satisfy one person's ego not if he is a good or a bad person. I'm sure he is not a bad person. From football and fan perspective, Mr. Snyder is a despicable scum. As simple as that.

Posted by: redskinfan4life1 | November 5, 2009 4:14 PM | Report abuse

despicable scum? WTF? Do you personally know this man? How do we verify "despicable scum"?
The vehement anger in your voice is suspect. So folks need to get a life. kekekeke

despicable scum. LOL. You lost us all with that "road rage". Clear the streets everyone. LOL

Posted by: kentonsmith | November 5, 2009 4:23 PM | Report abuse


Look we are talking about football here, we are talking about the way this organization is run to satisfy one person's ego not if he is a good or a bad person. I'm sure he is not a bad person. From football and fan perspective, Mr. Snyder is a despicable scum. As simple as that.

Posted by: redskinfan4life1 | November 5, 2009 4:14 PM | Report abuse

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Sorry, but I'm still trying to get this whole "ego" thing that some of you are trotting out like fact.
I could understand that claim made about Jerry Jones or even Al Davis who have never found a camera they didn't like or a situation in which they didn't try to make themselves the central theme, but Snyder doesn't do any of that.
You could certainly take issue with his management style or front office decisions, but I still don't see any of those being ego driven.
Let's be realistic here, you don't get to the point where you can become the owner of a professional sports franchise and not have complete faith in your own decision making (rightly or wrongly).

Posted by: dkidwell61 | November 5, 2009 4:32 PM | Report abuse

talk abotu straw men, people here spit on Danny but protect Vinny! That's nonsense. It's Vinny's incompetence that makes me people so angry at Dan Snyder.
Where do we begin with this. The idea that Dan Snyder doesn't have ugly breakups with players is silly. Do you remember the public quotes when Snyder told Laverneous Coles that he would buy him a big screen tv to watch the Redskins games because there was no way he was going to play. And yes he and when LaVar left here it was on bad terms (same with Brian Mitchell).
When Joe Gibbs came back he had all the power (remember him at the podium by himself when he was hired) but near the end Snyder/Cerrato had wormed their way back into the decision-making process. When Snyder/Cerrato wanted to erode Gibbs' power further he left (and if you'll remember Gibbs' comments after the playoff loss in Seattle there was zero indication he was thinking of retirement, he talked like a man returning for his 5th year).
As for Blache's comments, well what do you expect from a man who was given a rare shotgun as a present and is now one of the more highly paid coordinators in football.
One more thing. Anyone that runs down Riggins' playing career is a fool. He's a legit Hall of Famer and Super Bowl MVP (and he was the MVP of the entire playoffs that season). Take what he says with a grain of salt because Snyder fired him from radio but to say he really wasn't that good a player is ludicrous on its face.

Posted by: templetontherat1978 | November 5, 2009 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Dkidwell61,

There are more people reading this that support your comments than you know. Keep up the common sense, the blogs need more folks like you.

Posted by: Barno1 | November 5, 2009 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Now let me address the checkbook issue and Dan Snyder's priorities. You say winning comes first, but take a look at what has been done to the stadium and the fan experience there. Is his priority wanting the fans to enjoy themselves and giving the home team an advantage or is it getting every dollar out of them he can. The two are not mutually exclusive but having gone there nearly every year since its FedEx opened its the latter. Obstructed view seating, signage everywhere. Commercials every stoppage, very little replays and its difficult to find out-of-town scores.
Then there is the relationship with stub hub and how so many fans of visiting teams get tickets. If winning was first priority would Snyder so willingly make avenues for tens of thousands of Eagles/Cowboys/Giants/Steelers fans to get tickets and take the home field advantage away. But Snyder doesn't care because those visiting fans money is just as green as the money Redskins fans pay.
Then the big signings. Funny thing that. As soon as a player is unveiled there are jersey in the Redskins stores everywhere and inevitably many fans buy them. The merchandise sales get a boost but of course the player often is a bad fit for the team. And yes I am the grandson of season-ticket holders for 40 years and I was very angry when the team traded for Jason "I wanna put on my boogie shoes" Taylor last season.

Posted by: templetontherat1978 | November 5, 2009 4:43 PM | Report abuse

talk abotu straw men, people here spit on Danny but protect Vinny! That's nonsense. It's Vinny's incompetence that makes me people so angry at Dan Snyder.
Where do we begin with this. The idea that Dan Snyder doesn't have ugly breakups with players is silly. Do you remember the public quotes when Snyder told Laverneous Coles that he would buy him a big screen tv to watch the Redskins games because there was no way he was going to play. And yes he and when LaVar left here it was on bad terms (same with Brian Mitchell).
When Joe Gibbs came back he had all the power (remember him at the podium by himself when he was hired) but near the end Snyder/Cerrato had wormed their way back into the decision-making process. When Snyder/Cerrato wanted to erode Gibbs' power further he left (and if you'll remember Gibbs' comments after the playoff loss in Seattle there was zero indication he was thinking of retirement, he talked like a man returning for his 5th year).
As for Blache's comments, well what do you expect from a man who was given a rare shotgun as a present and is now one of the more highly paid coordinators in football.
One more thing. Anyone that runs down Riggins' playing career is a fool. He's a legit Hall of Famer and Super Bowl MVP (and he was the MVP of the entire playoffs that season). Take what he says with a grain of salt because Snyder fired him from radio but to say he really wasn't that good a player is ludicrous on its face.


Posted by: templetontherat1978 | November 5, 2009 4:32 PM | Report abuse

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Neither the Coles nor Arrington were caused by Snyder. That is what the initial conversation was about. In both cases, the players created the negative atmosphere.
Gibbs retirement had zero to do football other than his fatigue after the Sean Taylor death. It was family oriented and that is a well known fact!!
Blache is hardly the type of guy who plays puppet to anyone!! He's had the contract, would get another gig in a heartbeat and could never be paid off with a shotgun that he could buy several hundred of if he had the desire!!!
Regarding anyone being critical of Riggins football career, I am not aware of any of those posts taking place.

Posted by: dkidwell61 | November 5, 2009 4:44 PM | Report abuse

talk abotu straw men, people here spit on Danny but protect Vinny! That's nonsense. It's Vinny's incompetence that makes me people so angry at Dan Snyder.
Where do we begin with this. The idea that Dan Snyder doesn't have ugly breakups with players is silly. Do you remember the public quotes when Snyder told Laverneous Coles that he would buy him a big screen tv to watch the Redskins games because there was no way he was going to play. And yes he and when LaVar left here it was on bad terms (same with Brian Mitchell).
When Joe Gibbs came back he had all the power (remember him at the podium by himself when he was hired) but near the end Snyder/Cerrato had wormed their way back into the decision-making process. When Snyder/Cerrato wanted to erode Gibbs' power further he left (and if you'll remember Gibbs' comments after the playoff loss in Seattle there was zero indication he was thinking of retirement, he talked like a man returning for his 5th year).
As for Blache's comments, well what do you expect from a man who was given a rare shotgun as a present and is now one of the more highly paid coordinators in football.
One more thing. Anyone that runs down Riggins' playing career is a fool. He's a legit Hall of Famer and Super Bowl MVP (and he was the MVP of the entire playoffs that season). Take what he says with a grain of salt because Snyder fired him from radio but to say he really wasn't that good a player is ludicrous on its face.


Posted by: templetontherat1978 | November 5, 2009 4:32 PM | Report abuse

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Neither the Coles nor Arrington were caused by Snyder. That is what the initial conversation was about. In both cases, the players created the negative atmosphere.
Gibbs retirement had zero to do football other than his fatigue after the Sean Taylor death. It was family oriented and that is a well known fact!!
Blache is hardly the type of guy who plays puppet to anyone!! He's had the contract, would get another gig in a heartbeat and could never be paid off with a shotgun that he could buy several hundred of if he had the desire!!!
Regarding anyone being critical of Riggins football career, I am not aware of any of those posts taking place.

Posted by: dkidwell61 | November 5, 2009 4:44 PM | Report abuse

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So you claim, dkidwell61. You discount everyone else's accounts and experiences. What proof do you have of anything you cite here?

Posted by: member5 | November 5, 2009 4:50 PM | Report abuse

There are a lot of truths as to what Riggo said about Dan Snyder and the way he runs the team. However, as much as I respect Greg Blache (one of the few I like on the team), I have to go with Riggo to some degree. It is very easy for Blache to love his employer and want to defend him. Quite frankly, because of the fact that I man like Blache made the comment that Snyder is a okay. He is a very good employer. Let's face it, he does "break his employees off", translation, pays them very well. Also, his employee do have somewhat of a "club med" mentallity. Blache is not one to lie, but Blache can only see from the inside look out, and not the outside looking in. If that was the case, he would be saying something simular to what Riggo is talking about. I do not feel sorry for Blache or Riggo. These are two men that can only see as they see. But Blache needs to understand that the things that Snyder had done, gives the appearance that he is trying to destroy the team.

Mr. Blache - I was a Redskin fan, but I still respect you. You always tell the truth, and I beleive you. Having said that, you can only look at what you see as one inside Redskin part. I can only look at the outside and had come to the same conclusions as Riggo, far before he even made these comment. I saw this coming when Shawn Taylor died, and Clinton Portis (another coach on the Redskins team), and not Gibbs (or even you) flew to South Florida with Snyder and Cerreto to see the family. Why didn't Clinton Portis fly by himself to Florida? Even the fact that Clinton Portis, again did not play very much (if any) in the preseason of 2008 (Zorn's first year). And if he did, he did it kicking and screaming!! I can go on about Cerrato going on national TV to suggest that Zorn gives up play calling duties to an outside consultant that a lot of players didn't even know. -- What's up with that? I still don't fault you Blache, you are a stand up man. And if you owned or coached the Redskins I probably would had still been a fan. Thanks, still for all you do. Because, at least the defence does stink as much under your leadership with the tools that are avaliable to you.

Posted by: roallenc | November 5, 2009 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Now let me address the checkbook issue and Dan Snyder's priorities. You say winning comes first, but take a look at what has been done to the stadium and the fan experience there. Is his priority wanting the fans to enjoy themselves and giving the home team an advantage or is it getting every dollar out of them he can. The two are not mutually exclusive but having gone there nearly every year since its FedEx opened its the latter. Obstructed view seating, signage everywhere. Commercials every stoppage, very little replays and its difficult to find out-of-town scores.
Then there is the relationship with stub hub and how so many fans of visiting teams get tickets. If winning was first priority would Snyder so willingly make avenues for tens of thousands of Eagles/Cowboys/Giants/Steelers fans to get tickets and take the home field advantage away. But Snyder doesn't care because those visiting fans money is just as green as the money Redskins fans pay.
Then the big signings. Funny thing that. As soon as a player is unveiled there are jersey in the Redskins stores everywhere and inevitably many fans buy them. The merchandise sales get a boost but of course the player often is a bad fit for the team. And yes I am the grandson of season-ticket holders for 40 years and I was very angry when the team traded for Jason "I wanna put on my boogie shoes" Taylor last season.

Posted by: templetontherat1978 | November 5, 2009 4:43 PM | Report abuse

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Funny how the only ones who seem to complain about the "obstructed view" seats are folks who don't sit in them!! If you don't want to pay for those seats, don't!! Empty seats = Bad Idea. Butts in seats = there must be a demand!!
Signage?? I mean I still don't understand how United Airlines gets any business from having their signs over every portal, but there is no more than any other stadium that I have been in. Personally, I am there to watch the Skins, so I don't worry about what those signs say and if I do need to find an out of town score, I have never had a problem!!
Replays?? I guess complain, but keep in mind that the NFL does restrict showing certain replays which it deems "controversial". It's a live game!! Not Tivo!!
Merchandise???? Don't buy it!!! I don't!!
I'm kind of surprised that you aren't complaining about the price of beer, or hot dogs!!!

Posted by: dkidwell61 | November 5, 2009 5:03 PM | Report abuse

What time and dimension is dkidwell61 living in? Maybe it's Danny Boy himself lurking around RI.

Posted by: richie_sheppard | November 5, 2009 5:05 PM | Report abuse

To dkidwell61:

If there had been one or two bad interactions with players or other people, okay, maybe you could blame them and not Snyder. But there are way more than one or two. The attrition and turnover in that organization are alarmingly high. The accounts of obnoxious, bullying behavior are mounting. After ten years, we have an ample body of evidence, and it shows that Snyder is a disaster. He mistreats people and makes bad decisions. It appears now they cannot attract coaching prospects without paying exorbitant sums, and even that isn't enough -- look at Spagnuolo, who declined to be interviewed.

Too often this organization has tried to discredit the messenger instead of addressing the message, and posters on this board who criticize Riggins are doing the same thing. Who cares if Riggins is a good guy or has an axe to grind. Even if Riggins were a scoundrel, his message, IMHO, is exactly right. Deal with the facts.

Posted by: Hobbes3 | November 5, 2009 5:06 PM | Report abuse

I don't know anything about GM, ownership, or coaching. I only know that I love my skins! It hurts to see the team going through this crap. It hurts to see the fans going through this crap.

I just want us to look like a real team again. Whatever it takes to get us back to some greatness, LET'S DO IT!

Posted by: LuvMySkinz | November 5, 2009 5:16 PM | Report abuse

To dkidwell61:

If there had been one or two bad interactions with players or other people, okay, maybe you could blame them and not Snyder. But there are way more than one or two. The attrition and turnover in that organization are alarmingly high. The accounts of obnoxious, bullying behavior are mounting. After ten years, we have an ample body of evidence, and it shows that Snyder is a disaster. He mistreats people and makes bad decisions. It appears now they cannot attract coaching prospects without paying exorbitant sums, and even that isn't enough -- look at Spagnuolo, who declined to be interviewed.

Too often this organization has tried to discredit the messenger instead of addressing the message, and posters on this board who criticize Riggins are doing the same thing. Who cares if Riggins is a good guy or has an axe to grind. Even if Riggins were a scoundrel, his message, IMHO, is exactly right. Deal with the facts.

Posted by: Hobbes3 | November 5, 2009 5:06 PM | Report abuse

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FYI, Spagnuolo did interview (over twenty hours in two days as I recall) but either declined or was not offered the position.
All the rest of the stuff??? I guess you said it fine: If you want to hear a particular message or opinion, it doesn't matter who the source is.

Posted by: dkidwell61 | November 5, 2009 5:20 PM | Report abuse

Dkidwell61:

Goodness knows I don't want to hear anything bad about the Redskins. I do, however, want to hear the truth. Too often, I don't get that from the Redskins.

We can agree to disagree. Here is one way to tell who is right. If I'm right, Snyder will either hire a total unknown and underqualified coach (like Zorn), or he will pay the highest-ever reported salary to attract a "name" coach. That guy, whoever it is, will last no longer than 2 years. And 2 years from now there will be more drama, similar to today's drama. You will then have this debate with someone else, because I would have washed my hands of this team, sadly so, after 37 years.

Posted by: Hobbes3 | November 5, 2009 5:27 PM | Report abuse

HEY RHORWAT or what ever you call yourself.
Man I don't know what you were doing when you were writing your post, but stop it. It has your thinking all messed up. Synder and Vinny are the reasons that the oline is bad and all of the money they spend they have yet to address the oline problem.
So stop sucking up to Dan and Vinny or was it really Dan or Vinny hiding behind that RHOEWAT name to make that post.

Posted by: rmilton | November 5, 2009 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Riggo right, Snyder wrong. I'm a diehard Redskins fan but don't know how long I can suffer through this bad ownership. The lawsuits persuaded to to never purchase anything Redskins as long as Snyder is the owner. I'm not giving him one red cent.

Posted by: gone2dae | November 5, 2009 5:57 PM | Report abuse

1. Snyder was the only owner in the NFL to charge parents and their children $10 apiece to watch Redskins practices. If that wasn't bad enough, he added a $10 parking fee.
2. I believe the Redskins charge the highest ticket prices in the league.
3. Snyder forces ticket holders to pay for meaningless pre-season games.
4. Snyder charges an exorbitant amount of money to park for Redskin games. I guess charging the highest ticket prices in the league isn't enough money for a billionaire.

And what about the lawsuits against season ticket holders who had trouble during this economy?

I don't know if Snyder has a dark heart but he certainly couldn't care less about the welfare of his own fans.

Posted by: rtbt | November 5, 2009 5:59 PM | Report abuse

can someone tell ONE story of what a nice person Dan Snyder is?....Riggin's tale of woe is just the latest of at least 75 stories that i have heard that paint dan snyder as a petty egomaniac that will stab anyone in the back...that would or could cost snyder $.25 cents in profit margin.

where there is smoke...there usually is fire.

if snyder had the brains to fire cerrato (and hire Dungy as GM at $4M a year)....vinny cerrato would not be re-hired by any other NFL as even a scouting assistant making $35K a year.

Posted by: jrebstock | November 5, 2009 6:00 PM | Report abuse

Wouldn't surprise me if Snyder's minions are posting his defense here... That's it, no more Redskins. I'm going to get a CAPS jersey and WIZARDS jersey and will be heading into DC for professional sporting events... No more MD and not more heartaches due to some maniac's ego... Bye-bye SNYDskins!

Posted by: gone2dae | November 5, 2009 6:01 PM | Report abuse

1. Snyder was the only owner in the NFL to charge parents and their children $10 apiece to watch Redskins practices. If that wasn't bad enough, he added a $10 parking fee.
2. I believe the Redskins charge the highest ticket prices in the league.
3. Snyder forces ticket holders to pay for meaningless pre-season games.
4. Snyder charges an exorbitant amount of money to park for Redskin games. I guess charging the highest ticket prices in the league isn't enough money for a billionaire.

And what about the lawsuits against season ticket holders who had trouble during this economy?

I don't know if Snyder has a dark heart but he certainly couldn't care less about the welfare of his own fans.


Posted by: rtbt | November 5, 2009 5:59 PM | Report abuse

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1) In fairness, he admitted he was dead wrong and has since created a pretty nice atmosphere for the fans during summer camp.
2) The Skins are around 9th in the league in ticket prices and haven't had an increase in a couple of years I believe.
3) If you want season tickets, you buy the seat for the season!! What's the problem with including preseason games?? What is it, two games??
4) See #2 regarding ticket prices, but parking isn't highest in the league either.
Bottom line, if you don't want to pay the prices, just stay home!!! Watch the games on TV and let someone from the waiting list purchase the seats. That's your ultimate way to boycott the team if you feel the need!!

Posted by: dkidwell61 | November 5, 2009 6:11 PM | Report abuse

dkidwell61,

You are simply amazing. Let history speak for itself, and Snyder’s history here has been one generally of failure. Who is responsible for the continuing employment of that sycophant Cerrato? That’s right, your man in charge, Mr. Snyder. This team arguably had its greatest success in the Snyder era when he backed off and allowed Gibbs to run the show, playoffs in 2 of the last 3 years of his tenure. What did he do following? Elevate Vinny for goodness sakes, based on I suppose his considerable record of success. And the only guy they could hire was Zorn? These two obviously found a pliant and weak personality to “lead” the team, one whose personality was subordinate to the owner. You need strong personalities, which need not be overbearing or cruel, to lead men. I heard another Snyder suck up, George Michael, recount that they “had” to hire Zorn, because there was no one else. Please, Baltimore and Atlanta managed to find first time coaches who are successful. Even if he didn’t want Gregg Williams, the whole interview process left him hanging out to dry, in the same classless way Zorn is being handled. When the boss of an organization is an imperious jerk, you’re only going to get weak people to work for you, hence the Zorn hire, continued employment of Cerrato, and the termination of Marty, and the non-hire of Williams.

Of course Snyder has a talent for marketing and has squeezed every last bit of profit out of the Redskins enterprise. I don’t agree with John Cooke who thinks that this commercializing is wrong. I just think it is the ONLY thing at which Snyder has been successful. I am sure he has reinvested most of it back into the team. None of that matters to an NFL team though. With TV money, attendance and suites, only the losers (Jacksonville, Oakland) don’t make a profit. Snyder is a rich child who has money but still hasn’t grown up. The Redskins are his toy, and when it is not working he gets angry and throws it against the wall. Unfortunately, you cannot correct a billionaire with a Napoleon complex the way you can a four-year old child.

Posted by: TheWingedShield | November 5, 2009 6:15 PM | Report abuse

dkidwell61:

Wow you rattled off those price points pretty quickly. I guess you really are from the Redskins. Please do us all a favor and report back to your boss a few messages:

1. There really are a whole lot of upset fans. It is not conjured by the Post. Other way around. Fans are upset, and the Post is reporting it. This is real.

2. The fans are upset with Snyder and Cerrato, not just with the team's record.

3. You should be careful about inviting fans to boycott the team. They might accept your invitation.

4. It would seem more prudent to listen to the fans, stop dismissing their concerns as Washington Post fluff, and take it seriously. Otherwise you risk squandering an extremely valuable and unique treasure -- the goodwill built up by the Redskins over many decades. Otherwise, you might find yourself in a Harvard Business School casebook as an example of how an entertainment business squandered its most valuable asset by mistreating its customers. Maybe not tomorrow, but 5, 10, 15 years from now, you betcha it could happen. Do you really want to risk that?

Posted by: Hobbes3 | November 5, 2009 6:22 PM | Report abuse

I haven't watched the piece yet, but it doesn't seem like Riggo is speaking clearly here. I know what Snyder has done with the old lady and the tickets and the signs at FedEx but i don't know if that means he has a dark heart. I mean he hasn't eaten any children has he? He just needs to realize that he has to hire football people to run his football team. When he can find somebody that knows how to spend all of his money smartly, the Skins will prosper. It is a shame that Danny boy isn't smarter than this, even I understand that if the Redskins were among the NFL's elite once again, he would make all kinds of money. People want the Skins to be good, all over the country. Hopefully we will get to see it soon.

Posted by: Joshington | November 5, 2009 6:29 PM | Report abuse

dkidwell61

Just ignore this tool. Nobody stays in touch with these messageboards for NINE straight hours rebutting everyone's negative comments about Snyder unless it's their job. Well they could be insane, but he/she writes too well for that.

Posted by: beargibson | November 5, 2009 6:41 PM | Report abuse

The problem is the fans don't get to know Mr. Snyder like we do, so they get an impression of things that are written and things people say.

Who's fault is it the fans don't get to know $nyder? Maybe if he didn't hide all the time we'd get to know him. Just more spin by one of $nyder's lieutenants.

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Posted by: hessone | November 5, 2009 7:30 PM | Report abuse

dkidwell61,
You are a moron.

Posted by: hessone | November 5, 2009 7:33 PM | Report abuse

Hey dkidwell61, I think you miss the point. Of course nobody holds a gun to the head of Redskin fans and forces them to keep buying season tickets. The kind of guy who would even think of charging parents and their children to attend Redskins practice, has a mental problem. Come on, he charged each member of the family $10 and then another ten bucks to park. That is a pretty devious strategy and apologizing after the fact doesn't impress me. It was really a profile of his character, or I should say, lack thereof.

By the way, one of the first things Snyder did after buying Six Flags was to raise the cost of parking from $8 to $25. Sound familiar?

Posted by: rtbt | November 5, 2009 7:38 PM | Report abuse

dkidwell61,

You are simply amazing. Let history speak for itself, and Snyder’s history here has been one generally of failure. Who is responsible for the continuing employment of that sycophant Cerrato? That’s right, your man in charge, Mr. Snyder. This team arguably had its greatest success in the Snyder era when he backed off and allowed Gibbs to run the show, playoffs in 2 of the last 3 years of his tenure. What did he do following? Elevate Vinny for goodness sakes, based on I suppose his considerable record of success. And the only guy they could hire was Zorn? These two obviously found a pliant and weak personality to “lead” the team, one whose personality was subordinate to the owner. You need strong personalities, which need not be overbearing or cruel, to lead men. I heard another Snyder suck up, George Michael, recount that they “had” to hire Zorn, because there was no one else. Please, Baltimore and Atlanta managed to find first time coaches who are successful. Even if he didn’t want Gregg Williams, the whole interview process left him hanging out to dry, in the same classless way Zorn is being handled. When the boss of an organization is an imperious jerk, you’re only going to get weak people to work for you, hence the Zorn hire, continued employment of Cerrato, and the termination of Marty, and the non-hire of Williams.

Of course Snyder has a talent for marketing and has squeezed every last bit of profit out of the Redskins enterprise. I don’t agree with John Cooke who thinks that this commercializing is wrong. I just think it is the ONLY thing at which Snyder has been successful. I am sure he has reinvested most of it back into the team. None of that matters to an NFL team though. With TV money, attendance and suites, only the losers (Jacksonville, Oakland) don’t make a profit. Snyder is a rich child who has money but still hasn’t grown up. The Redskins are his toy, and when it is not working he gets angry and throws it against the wall. Unfortunately, you cannot correct a billionaire with a Napoleon complex the way you can a four-year old child.


Posted by: TheWingedShield | November 5, 2009 6:15 PM | Report abuse
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Well, Zorn was not what I was hoping for either, but you also have to remember that Gibbs caught everyone by surprise and didn't announce his retirement until the first week or so of January. By that time Baltimore and Atlanta had already been well into the interview process and it was only another week or so before they made their coaching announcements.
I don't know what the problem was with Williams, but I suspect he wanted some control of player personel in additon to HC duties.
That is exactly what got Marty fired. Snyder asked him to give up the GM duties and focus only being the head coach. He rufused and was fired.
BTW, if you remember, Snyder fired Vinnie when he hired Marty!!

Posted by: dkidwell61 | November 5, 2009 7:57 PM | Report abuse

dkidwell61

Just ignore this tool. Nobody stays in touch with these messageboards for NINE straight hours rebutting everyone's negative comments about Snyder unless it's their job. Well they could be insane, but he/she writes too well for that.

Posted by: beargibson | November 5, 2009 6:41 PM | Report abuse

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I explained why I was responding as much as I was earlier. Hey, I'd much rather be working right now!!
I didn't respond to every negative posting but only ones in which I felt there was another side.
If you can't handle that, then taqke the easy way out and call me a tool!!!

Posted by: dkidwell61 | November 5, 2009 8:08 PM | Report abuse

dkidwell61,
You are a moron.

Posted by: hessone | November 5, 2009 7:33 PM | Report abuse
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Wow!!! How deep of you!!! Thank you for taking time away from earning your Phd to enlighten me about that little known factoid!!

Posted by: dkidwell61 | November 5, 2009 8:11 PM | Report abuse

In addition to his immense greed documented below, Snyder's proven his leadership of this once proud NFL franchise over the past decade has been horrendous. The latest example was taking away the play calling authority from the head coach. I can see it now. Snyder goes to the GM and tells him he doesn't like the way Zorn is calling plays so he orders him take that authority away from the head coach.

It's as if a little kid is running the organization and that's a great example as to why there's no consistency and the goals/strategy changes every 2 years.

Posted by: rtbt | November 5, 2009 8:18 PM | Report abuse

WOW, Riggins showed a lot of class here. Apparently he has been skipping his AA meetings.

Posted by: bigbillborg | November 5, 2009 8:25 PM | Report abuse

Hey dkidwell61, I think you miss the point. Of course nobody holds a gun to the head of Redskin fans and forces them to keep buying season tickets. The kind of guy who would even think of charging parents and their children to attend Redskins practice, has a mental problem. Come on, he charged each member of the family $10 and then another ten bucks to park. That is a pretty devious strategy and apologizing after the fact doesn't impress me. It was really a profile of his character, or I should say, lack thereof.

By the way, one of the first things Snyder did after buying Six Flags was to raise the cost of parking from $8 to $25. Sound familiar?

Posted by: rtbt | November 5, 2009 7:38 PM | Report abuse

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So basically you have had it out for Snyder since the beginning, so obviously you love what Riggins had to say.
I didnt miss any point, but I think people are entitled to make mistakes especially if they admit to them.
FYI, for those folks who attend Six Flags more than once, the season pass is the same cost as a one day pass and the season parking is $49 bucks. Pretty good deal if you like to hit the park!!

Posted by: dkidwell61 | November 5, 2009 8:25 PM | Report abuse

Thank you John Riggins for saying things straight forward and not holding back. Someone had to do it and you were the one. Hopefully Dan Snyder will listen to Riggins words and truly understand the frustration being felt by us diehard fans. I have been a Skins fan for many years and will always be a diehard fan unconditionally but the frustration is unbelievable. I will always luv my Skins unconditionally. HAIL!!!!!!

Posted by: ladyredskins | November 5, 2009 8:43 PM | Report abuse

Sued a grandmother into bankruptcy...
Got a judgment against her and profited from its sale...
Then re-sold her seats and profited there too...


If OJ Simpson, Michael Vick or Marion Barry did this - there would be a f***in FBI investigation. Tell Cris Collinsworth to pass after he puff puffs.

Go Riggins!

Posted by: 20yrskinfan | November 5, 2009 8:56 PM | Report abuse

I just love Riggo!!! Thank God he said this on a major NFL broadcast. I do hope it somehow causes Dan Snyder to change.

Posted by: agupta1 | November 5, 2009 8:57 PM | Report abuse

"Don't make the statement that Snyder is a "bad guy" or "unethical" and not have something to back it up!!"

Riggens did. He pointed to the underhanded way tickets were being sold and how it come out during the season.

And clearly, you can't think a guy who sues old people into bankruptcy for not buying tickets is anything other than a punk.

Or do you work for Danny boy?

Posted by: Ombudsman1 | November 5, 2009 9:05 PM | Report abuse

Go Riggo.

If suing fans, effectively, to collect a second time on tickets that are sold to agents isn't unethical, what the hell is?

Posted by: MartinZook | November 5, 2009 9:10 PM | Report abuse

"Don't make the statement that Snyder is a "bad guy" or "unethical" and not have something to back it up!!"

Riggens did. He pointed to the underhanded way tickets were being sold and how it come out during the season.

And clearly, you can't think a guy who sues old people into bankruptcy for not buying tickets is anything other than a punk.

Or do you work for Danny boy?


Posted by: Ombudsman1 | November 5, 2009 9:05 PM | Report abuse

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I love idiots who must make the claim that you work for Snyder if you have an opinion that doesn't align with their own!!!
I think that when you sign a contract you live up to the contract!!! If I don't pay for my car they will take it and sell it!! Same with my house!! Don't sign a 10 year contract and back out in year 1.
Oh, and Riggins did NOT back up his accusations!!! Lord only knows what he was talking about, but he provided no specifics for what he claimed!!

Posted by: dkidwell61 | November 5, 2009 9:14 PM | Report abuse

To; Ombudsman1 - Ten years of not going to a super bowl with this year acheiving new lows, what more proof does Riggins, or anybody, need that Snyder is a bad guy?

Posted by: edeshields | November 5, 2009 9:22 PM | Report abuse

"Riggins says he is said what he said because he has an ax to grind. Greg Blache, on the other hand, says he said what he said because he wouldn't feel like a man or be able to talk to his kids if he didn't speak up today."

Sure. Blache doesn't owe Snyder anything. I gotcha.

Posted by: Pepper5 | November 5, 2009 9:22 PM | Report abuse

Riggo PC? Ain't gonna happen. But is he right? Uh huh. Synder is karmac poison. Started with Rypien not coming to practice after great season...went down hill from there with an owner who doesn't have the insight into what makes a great team (with emphasis on TEAM). Can't buy it, Dan. Till you get those "free thinkers" (football divas)to care about something bigger than themselves, expect defeat and ridicule. Snyder's missing that gene necessary to be a winning owner. Can't exactly explain it, but like pornography, I know it when I see it.

Posted by: persugram | November 5, 2009 9:23 PM | Report abuse


Collinsworth: "There is a fine line between being a bad guy and a bad GM, if you will. Are you saying a bad guy as in the NFL needs to take a look at this?"
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Yes! The NFL needs to take a look at this.

Posted by: mrhonda | November 5, 2009 10:00 AM | Report abuse

LOL I totally agree!!!

Posted by: Pepper5 | November 5, 2009 9:26 PM | Report abuse

dkidwell61, you still don't get it. Snyder's consumed by two passions, greed and his beloved Redskins. What he doesn't understand are the complex human relationships that helps one develop a culture where everyone works together, the goals are clear, everyone is motivated, and the strategy doesn't change every 2 years. One thing you cannot do is change the dismal ten year history of the Redskins under Snyder.

As for the Six Flags example, when people stopped coming to the parks and they were headed towards bankruptcy, he was forced to lower prices and make deals to bring in customers. The same thing would happen with the Redskins if the suckers would stop buying his season tickets, he would be forced to lower prices.

Posted by: rtbt | November 5, 2009 9:38 PM | Report abuse

And from what I can tell...

dkidwell61=Redskins plant

circa a conversation that went like this:

Danny: We gotta get a handle on this Post coverage...we need a man on the inside. Someone to turn the tide of the negative coverage, and tell our side of the story. He should explain our points...then we get other posters to back him up. Before you know it the Post will look bad. It'll look like everything is fine from the fan point of view. And the Post was just making waves to sell papers.

Vinny: Got'cha boss. I'll get right on it...we'll show those dastardly reporters!

and in 20 minutes we have (drumroll)...

dkidwell61

Welcome a55wipe!

Posted by: 20yrskinfan | November 5, 2009 9:41 PM | Report abuse

When Riggins talks, you need to listen!! JR and (Sonny's) analysis are the best in football. Not only were these guys graet stars in their time, they can "critically think!" John Riggins is right on target with with Snyder ... he doesn't no "squat" about football ... hell, I'll bet he didn't even play in high school!! He's the worst owner in the NFL and the Washington fans deserve better!
Go John R ... GO!!!! Remember those great days in RFK ... you are among the best ever! Snyder needs to go! I vote for JR for coach of the Redskins with Joe Gibbs and John Cooke as the new owners!!! Now that would be a team!!!!

Posted by: subrosa999 | November 5, 2009 9:48 PM | Report abuse

Get rid od Snyder ... even when we had good coaches here... Marty, Norv, Joe Gibbs .. the team struggled. The real problem is Dan Snyder!! JR nailed it ... it's the F'n owner ... he's a joke!!

Posted by: subrosa999 | November 5, 2009 9:52 PM | Report abuse

This isn't helping the redskins. It's really bad when former Redskin players/hall of fame players are bashing the owner. All this is doing is tearing apart this team, the franchise, and seperating the fan base. They think they are doing some kind of justice when all they are doing is making it hard on the players. Honestly, those ex-redskin players do not have to deal with the daily grind anymore or the daily questions from the media.

Posted by: thetruth4real | November 5, 2009 10:04 PM | Report abuse

Be careful Washington Fans. When Browns fans complained too mcuh about Art Modell he moved the team to Baltimore. Have the "new" Browns turned out so well? Be careful what you wish for.

Posted by: NoFanoftheMan | November 5, 2009 10:11 PM | Report abuse

I have been a Redskins fan since 1944, Everyone keeps blaming Dan Snydeer for the Redskins collapse. There are at least 6 points you are all missing 1.He doesn't over throw passes 2.He doesn'drop passes right in his hands, 3 He doesn't Block. 4 He doesn't tackle. 5 He doesn't commit Stupid Penalties. 6 He doesn't fumble

Posted by: hmc1133 | November 5, 2009 10:18 PM | Report abuse

Way to go JR!! And don't forget the following:
1) First Danny boy tries to ban people form walking to the stadium alleging "safety concerns". (Remember that?)

2) Then he sues ticket holders for selling their tickets.

3) Then recently he ban tailgating in the parking lot.(wants the $$ for food & drinks to go directly to his organization.

4) Now banning signs of any sort (including paper bag masks).

It hasn't been the same since the franchise changed hands and left the Cooke family...and left RFK....He is ruining a truly great franchise. He should be run out of town on a rail!

Posted by: MHodn1234 | November 5, 2009 10:23 PM | Report abuse

And from what I can tell...

dkidwell61=Redskins plant

circa a conversation that went like this:

Danny: We gotta get a handle on this Post coverage...we need a man on the inside. Someone to turn the tide of the negative coverage, and tell our side of the story. He should explain our points...then we get other posters to back him up. Before you know it the Post will look bad. It'll look like everything is fine from the fan point of view. And the Post was just making waves to sell papers.

Vinny: Got'cha boss. I'll get right on it...we'll show those dastardly reporters!

and in 20 minutes we have (drumroll)...

dkidwell61

Welcome a55wipe!

Posted by: 20yrskinfan | November 5, 2009 9:41 PM | Report abuse

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A 20 year fan!!!! SOOOOO Impressive!! I love little lemmings that follow the crowd and feel so threatened when an opposing viewpoint is given!!!
Truly a Redskin Troll who only comes out when the sun is out!!!

Posted by: dkidwell61 | November 5, 2009 10:27 PM | Report abuse

Dan Snydeer doesn't Block, Tackle, Fumble, Miss open Receivers and doesn't drop passes put the blame where it belong. the plyersneed to do their jobs.

Posted by: hmc1133 | November 5, 2009 10:28 PM | Report abuse

Way to go JR!! And don't forget the following:
1) First Danny boy tries to ban people form walking to the stadium alleging "safety concerns". (Remember that?)

2) Then he sues ticket holders for selling their tickets.

3) Then recently he ban tailgating in the parking lot.(wants the $$ for food & drinks to go directly to his organization.

4) Now banning signs of any sort (including paper bag masks).

It hasn't been the same since the franchise changed hands and left the Cooke family...and left RFK....He is ruining a truly great franchise. He should be run out of town on a rail!

Posted by: MHodn1234 | November 5, 2009 10:23 PM | Report abuse

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Which is it???? Since it left the hands of the Cooke family or since it left RFK???? You can't have it both ways!!

Posted by: dkidwell61 | November 5, 2009 10:29 PM | Report abuse

riggo is right on , NFL GET RID OF THAT MAN WITHE THE DARK HEART, GODELL IF YOU HAVE THE B--LS YOU CAN DOOOOOOOOOOOO IT-------------------------------------------------------------COUNT IT

Posted by: marsmann | November 5, 2009 10:41 PM | Report abuse

I live in Los Angeles and we have a stupid owner too. Frank McCourt and his idiot wife own the Dodgers. Same thing they all have big egos and with their egos they are destroying the teams. They have little knowledge of running and owning a sports team. I wish both these owners would sell their teams to respectful new owners. It is the fans that have supported these teams over the years and they deserve better.

Posted by: bart4u | November 5, 2009 10:46 PM | Report abuse

I live in Los Angeles and we have a stupid owner too. Frank McCourt and his idiot wife own the Dodgers. Same thing they all have big egos and with their egos they are destroying the teams. They have little knowledge of running and owning a sports team. I wish both these owners would sell their teams to respectful new owners. It is the fans that have supported these teams over the years and they deserve better.

Posted by: bart4u | November 5, 2009 10:46 PM | Report abuse

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You are coming onto this board and bashing an owner who's team has played in the National League Championship series the past two years!!!!!???? Get a life!!
If the Skins had made it to the NFC Championship game the past two years, there would only be a handful of losers dumping on Snyder!!
You represent everything wrong with the instant gratification sportsfans of today!!

Posted by: dkidwell61 | November 5, 2009 11:05 PM | Report abuse

It'd be a real shame if Skins fans stopped buying 'officially licensed' gear and instead purchased paraphernalia from the back of that shady guy's van in Chinatown. Or the stadium parking lot. That dodgy vendor, not the 'proper' one. Yeah, a real, real shame (cough).

Posted by: praiano | November 5, 2009 11:30 PM | Report abuse

Dan Snider_ _ _ sounds familiar...Wasn't he a ringmaster in the circus...:)

Posted by: tcorc3131 | November 5, 2009 11:41 PM | Report abuse

It's hard to argue with Riggo's point of view. The Skins lost to the Lions, the formerly winless team of 2008-9. There's something very wrong with the ownership of both teams, but the Skins had some form of winning tradition...the Lions have stunk for decades, they're beyond saving unless ownership changes. I'd hate to see Washington go the same route...somebody had to speak out, so who's better than Riggo himself? Right on!

Posted by: whoknowswho | November 5, 2009 11:56 PM | Report abuse

And that, my friends, is why John Riggins is one of the best 4 or 5 Redskins of all time. Baugh, Green, Gibbs, Taylor, and Riggins.

Posted by: kemp13 | November 6, 2009 12:08 AM | Report abuse

nice job riggo i can't stand snyder either...he's ruined the franchise and now he's sueing fans and not allowing signs to be brought to games...please just sell the team...

Posted by: HailSkins14 | November 6, 2009 12:16 AM | Report abuse

the only reason zorn was hired is because no one wants to work for snyder...they wanted steve spagnulo but he turned the job down and eventually went to st louis...most coaches want some say in things but snyder doesn't want to allow that he just wants a yes man coach which is what zorn is...the only way we'll get a coach like holmgren or gruden here is if snyder steps back and lets them have some say which he prolly won't you know.

Posted by: HailSkins14 | November 6, 2009 12:28 AM | Report abuse

the only reason zorn was hired is because no one wants to work for snyder...they wanted steve spagnulo but he turned the job down and eventually went to st louis...most coaches want some say in things but snyder doesn't want to allow that he just wants a yes man coach which is what zorn is...the only way we'll get a coach like holmgren or gruden here is if snyder steps back and lets them have some say which he prolly won't you know...

Posted by: HailSkins14 | November 6, 2009 12:29 AM | Report abuse

No matter how much money you have..... you can't buy, Integrity, Respect, or, create, a winning Franchise !!!!! Riggins knows what It takes to be a winner....Snyder, hasn't a clue !!!!!!! I see this, and I am not even.... a fan !!! I respect Riggins though !!!!! He earned It !!!!!!!!!

Posted by: LPat3 | November 6, 2009 12:33 AM | Report abuse

Look, I dont care what you think about Snyder's tenure here - failure or otherwise. But no man has a right to call another man a "bad guy" and accuse him of having a "dark heart" unless he truly knows him as a person. Neither Riggo, nor anyone on this forum - know Dan Snyder. While there may be some nuggets of truth in Riggo's analysis of Snyder's shortcomings as an Owner, the people on here that claim he is "exactly right" and "speaking for the fans" are fooling themselves. Bad owner? Sure. Bad judge of football talent? Of course. Bad guy with a dark heart? Come on, now. Riggo is out to get his name in the paper, and its working.

Posted by: rob10873 | November 6, 2009 12:41 AM | Report abuse

To; Ombudsman1 - Ten years of not going to a super bowl with this year acheiving new lows, what more proof does Riggins, or anybody, need that Snyder is a bad guy?

Posted by: edeshields | November 5, 2009 9:22 PM | Report abuse

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So let me get this straight. Your performance on your job - in this case, as an NFL Owner - dictates whether you are a "bad guy" and have a "dark heart?" I am starting to believe that many in this fan base are starting to lose their minds. I really am.

Posted by: rob10873 | November 6, 2009 12:50 AM | Report abuse

Can't say about Snyder's heart, because I don't know him.....but I'm glad my heart Isn't his !!! On the other hand, In defense of Riggins ! He sees his team going down the drain and he doesn't like It, and he knows why It's going down the drain !!!! Most folks do !!! Be It stupidity or a bad heart...It all falls at some Snyder's door ;) !!!!

Posted by: LPat3 | November 6, 2009 12:54 AM | Report abuse

The Redskins biggest problem is that they are too preoccupied with past players. They were great in their day and most people value thier opinions but they will never help win another championship. The whole persona of this team lies 15 years ago. Riggo is probably right but we will never win if we don't concentrate more on today. You don't see other teams constantly celebrating past players. Everyone agrees that we will never win again if Snyder doesn't hire a capable general manager and a better coach. You will never move forward unless you let go of the past. It's not even the same game anymore!

Posted by: EGLG | November 6, 2009 1:37 AM | Report abuse

call me a conspiracy theorist if you will but Riggins may be onto something when he mentions that there could be some unethical dealings going on. as rich as daniel snyder is and his ability to squeeze money out of a stone, there's got to be something that he's doing on the shady side which explains why he keeps cerrato on his payroll. think about it...snyder claims to be a redskins fan yet the team is currently on a downward slide! real fans of the redskins HATE when the team is losing but he placed cerrato in charge to "put the right pieces in place". even the ravens gm commented that he didn't understand why the redskins didn't draft deeply and stock up on o and d linemen. snyder just lets cerrato pick "the best player that's available" instead of the best player that fills our void. i'm telling you...cerrato knows something about what snyder is doing plain and simple. snyder hires schottenheimer and marty fires cerrato. after one season, snyder fires marty and fuqqin rehires cerrato. what the hell is that?!? perhaps arrington wasn't lying about how his contract was manipulated. i'm sure cerrato had something to do with that as well. riggins was vague in who he was referring to because i'm sure he didn't wanna be sued by snyder for slander. after all, if snyder would go after your grandmother for some fuqqin season tickets, he'll sue the pants off a hall of fame redskins icon.

Posted by: charronegro1971 | November 6, 2009 4:18 AM | Report abuse

Since when do we blame an owner for making money off of his football team? If I made an investment like that I would make sure to protect that investment.

And the lawsuit against the "poor old lady" is something that has been amplified by alarmists! They weren't gonna take her house or her car! LOL, all they wanted was the money she owed them.

I think Cerrato is the problem, not Snyder. If Snyder was to bring in a GM and GIVE him control, which is highly likely, most of these issues would go away.

I didn't hear Blache say anything positive about Cerrato.

Posted by: wewbank1 | November 6, 2009 6:20 AM | Report abuse

Generous person or bad guys? Come on, don't you realize that billionaires MUST give a certain percentage of their income to charities to help alleviate a huge tax hit? As for the fans, in addition to charging exorbitant ticket and parking prices, check this little story out from his recent past.

He was the only owner who ever charged money to watch the team practice. Parents taking kids to NFL practices is a long time NFL tradition. Snyder came up with the idea of charging parents and each of their children $10 apiece to watch the team practice. That would cost a family of four $40. If that wasn't bad enough, he topped it off by charging them $10 to park, making one trip to practice a grand total of $50. I guess billionaires never have enough money.

I don't know about you but I could never even consider doing something like this. Anyone who can come with such a devious scheme to rip off families is not a generous or kind person. And this did happen, it's a fact, not an opinion.

Posted by: rtbt | November 6, 2009 6:23 AM | Report abuse

I'm no fan of 'Ill Doouche' $nidolini, but I would have liked Riggo to give an example to backup the 'Dark Heart' comment. That comment and his 'he has the mind of a child' comments are interesting and inflammatory, but some factual info would be helpful. We all throw shots at the Danny but we haven't had direct contact with him or worked for him.

To me, B-Mitch has the bigger axe to grind because $nyder double-dipped on him; banishing him to Philly then firing him from the JT Show as a co-host citing financial concerns, then giving TK Stack Money his own show at way more money.

That spells vindictive creep to me

Posted by: kahlua87 | November 6, 2009 6:27 AM | Report abuse

dkidwell61,
You are a moron.

Posted by: hessone | November 5, 2009 7:33 PM | Report abuse
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Wow!!! How deep of you!!! Thank you for taking time away from earning your Phd to enlighten me about that little known factoid!!

Hey dkidwell61,
Your defensive about being called a moron but I've noticed you calling folks idiots and lemmings and so on. Do us all a favor and go away you moron.

Posted by: hessone | November 6, 2009 7:04 AM | Report abuse

There is one way to settle this. Have Dan Snyder go on the show with John Riggins and discuss it. No lawyers. No Vinny Me. John Riggins v. the Danny. One on one. The Danny does not have the courage. James Brown is the most fair Redskin fan in the world. But the Danny does not have the guts. Riggins v. the Danny. Please. Please. Someone needs to tell the Danny that this is not working. Riggins v. the Danny.

Posted by: HelloNewman1 | November 6, 2009 8:03 AM | Report abuse

dkidwell61,
You are a moron.

Posted by: hessone | November 5, 2009 7:33 PM | Report abuse
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Wow!!! How deep of you!!! Thank you for taking time away from earning your Phd to enlighten me about that little known factoid!!

Hey dkidwell61,
Your defensive about being called a moron but I've noticed you calling folks idiots and lemmings and so on. Do us all a favor and go away you moron.

Posted by: hessone | November 6, 2009 7:04 AM | Report abuse

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Once again you post with no real purpose except to insult. I would challenge you to find any posting of mine where I have initiated any insult against another poster, but instead responded to the BS that folks who have to resort to insults instead of substance (such as yourself) do when they don't like someone elses opinion.

Posted by: dkidwell61 | November 6, 2009 9:09 AM | Report abuse

"I just felt like it was time for somebody to come and throw a little truth out there," Blache said......., all he wants to do is win. That's all he wants to do. He will spend his money, he will spend his time, he wants to win, he is here for the people, for the fans, for the Washington Redskins."

MR. BLACHE THAT SOUNDS GREAT AND ALL.....BUT WHAT ELSE WOULD YOU SAY ABOUT A MAN WHO IS CURRENTLY SIGNING YOUR PAYCHECK??? JOB SECURITY RING A BELL??

LOOK FOLKS EVERYONE WHO IS ALL UP IN ARMS ABOUT THE "DARK HEART" COMMENT AND "BAD PERSON" COMMENT SHOULD GET OVER IT. IF DANNY BOY CAN'T TAKE A LITTLE HEAT.....THEN HE SHOULD GET OUT OF THE KITCHEN. WHO THE HELL ELSE SHOULD GET BLAMED????? DAN SNYDER IS THE MAN IN CHARGE. DAN SNYDER HAS MADE OR BEEN PART OF ALL THE DECISIONS FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS. 99% OF HIS DECISIONS REGARDING THIS FOOTBALL TEAM HAVE BEEN IRRATIONAL AT BEST. HE MAKES KNEE-JERK DECISIONS THAT JUST DON'T MAKE SENSE.

DAN SNYDER......IF ALL YOU WANT TO DO IS WIN, IF YOU CARE SO MUCH ABOUT THIS TEAM AND IT'S FANS.....THEN FIRE VINNY CERRATO(who you shouldn't have hired in the 1st place)FIRE JIM ZORN (who you shouldn't have hired in the 1st place)......HIRE A COMPETENT, HIGHLY EXPERIENCED GENERAL MANAGER, HIRE A COMPETENT HIGHLY EXPERIENCE COACH, TAKE YOURSELF OUT OF THE "FOOTBALL" DECISION MAKING PROCESS..AND START OVER AND REBUILD THIS FRANCHISE THE RIGHT WAY. START DRAFTING YOUNG TALENTED PLAYERS, MIXED IN WITH EXPERIENCED TEAM PLAYERS AND STOP PICKING UP WASHED UP MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR MEGA STARS. (go ahead and ask the....gulp...Eagles and Giants how it is done.)
YOU OBVIOUSLY MUST BE A SMART MAN......NOW PLEASE ENOUGH ALREADY.......RIGHT THIS SHIP NOW AND GET IT DONE
SIGNED:
A 40 YEAR REDSKINS FAN
SEASON TICKET HOLDER....NO LONGER

Posted by: tmaloney1 | November 6, 2009 9:40 AM | Report abuse

Generous person or bad guys? Come on, don't you realize that billionaires MUST give a certain percentage of their income to charities to help alleviate a huge tax hit? As for the fans, in addition to charging exorbitant ticket and parking prices, check this little story out from his recent past.

He was the only owner who ever charged money to watch the team practice. Parents taking kids to NFL practices is a long time NFL tradition. Snyder came up with the idea of charging parents and each of their children $10 apiece to watch the team practice. That would cost a family of four $40. If that wasn't bad enough, he topped it off by charging them $10 to park, making one trip to practice a grand total of $50. I guess billionaires never have enough money.

I don't know about you but I could never even consider doing something like this. Anyone who can come with such a devious scheme to rip off families is not a generous or kind person. And this did happen, it's a fact, not an opinion.


Posted by: rtbt | November 6, 2009 6:23 AM | Report abuse

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I didn't know that Billionaires MUST create special charities so that they can give their money away!! Wouldn't it just be easier to say write a check to St. Judes and get it over with quick??? No so much of a hassle, wouldn't you agree!
I mention this because it seems to be easy for people to spend others money and dismiss their giving as a tax necessity.

With regards to the whole training camp thing it was a stupid idea! But you did leave out a few little details such as only kids over 13 paid admission and that they did create the whole "Redskins experience" stuff so that there was a bit more than just watching the practice. This was also when they made the move from Frostburg to Ashburn, so I guess I can give a bit of grace to someone screwing up big time. I mean take me back to the days of Carlisle, but even then people complained about the drive and the parking that folks charged to park in their yards.
To make this out to be a "devious" plan is a bit of a stretch!! I'll give it the stupid label and leave it at that!!

Posted by: dkidwell61 | November 6, 2009 10:11 AM | Report abuse

Blache said......., all he wants to do is win. That's all he wants to do. He will spend his money, he will spend his time, he wants to win, he is here for the people, for the fans, for the Washington Redskins."

MR. BLACHE THAT SOUNDS GREAT AND ALL.....BUT WHAT ELSE WOULD YOU SAY ABOUT A MAN WHO IS CURRENTLY SIGNING YOUR PAYCHECK??? JOB SECURITY RING A BELL??

LOOK FOLKS EVERYONE WHO IS ALL UP IN ARMS ABOUT THE "DARK HEART" COMMENT AND "BAD PERSON" COMMENT SHOULD GET OVER IT. IF DANNY BOY CAN'T TAKE A LITTLE HEAT.....THEN HE SHOULD GET OUT OF THE KITCHEN. WHO THE HELL ELSE SHOULD GET BLAMED????? DAN SNYDER IS THE MAN IN CHARGE. DAN SNYDER HAS MADE OR BEEN PART OF ALL THE DECISIONS FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS. 99% OF HIS DECISIONS REGARDING THIS FOOTBALL TEAM HAVE BEEN IRRATIONAL AT BEST. HE MAKES KNEE-JERK DECISIONS THAT JUST DON'T MAKE SENSE.

DAN SNYDER......IF ALL YOU WANT TO DO IS WIN, IF YOU CARE SO MUCH ABOUT THIS TEAM AND IT'S FANS.....THEN FIRE VINNY CERRATO(who you shouldn't have hired in the 1st place)FIRE JIM ZORN (who you shouldn't have hired in the 1st place)......HIRE A COMPETENT, HIGHLY EXPERIENCED GENERAL MANAGER, HIRE A COMPETENT HIGHLY EXPERIENCE COACH, TAKE YOURSELF OUT OF THE "FOOTBALL" DECISION MAKING PROCESS..AND START OVER AND REBUILD THIS FRANCHISE THE RIGHT WAY. START DRAFTING YOUNG TALENTED PLAYERS, MIXED IN WITH EXPERIENCED TEAM PLAYERS AND STOP PICKING UP WASHED UP MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR MEGA STARS. (go ahead and ask the....gulp...Eagles and Giants how it is done.)
YOU OBVIOUSLY MUST BE A SMART MAN......NOW PLEASE ENOUGH ALREADY.......RIGHT THIS SHIP NOW AND GET IT DONE
SIGNED:
A 40 YEAR REDSKINS FAN
SEASON TICKET HOLDER....NO LONGER


Posted by: tmaloney1 | November 6, 2009 9:40 AM | Report abuse

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If you are going to dismiss Blatche, why not do the same with Riggins?? Doesn't he have an agenda??
Personally, Blatche doesn't seem like the kind of guy who gives a rats a$$$ who signs a check or what people think!! I don't see him as a "bought" guy!!
So 99% of the decisions are wrong, hiring Zorn was wrong.......were you saying this at mid-season last year??
Zorn was not my choice, but neither was Fassel!!
I don't know about Vinnie! Face it, firing Casserly and keeping Turner was the biggest mistake, but it's not like Cerrato came out of the college ranks or something. He was in charge when some pretty good players were drafted by San Fran. so he did have a track record. And has he really done that badly in drafting??
That said, Casserly is sitting in an office in Fairfax and I would gladly get the number for Snyder!!

Posted by: dkidwell61 | November 6, 2009 10:28 AM | Report abuse

I mostly agree with Riggins argument, although the whole 'this person's heart is dark' thing is over the top. But lots of fans have been making public, personal attacks on Snyder - about his height, his intelligence, etc. Riggins is not saying anything new, he's just a former team member saying it on a national stage. Snyder really is the problem. It doesn't matter if his heart is full of rainbows and puppies or black and pure evil, the Skins will never produce a winner with him at the helm, running things this way.
Unfortunately, Riggins has shifted the focus away from Snyder onto himself. I'll bet it shifts right back to Snyder if - ok when - the Skins lose again this weekend.

Posted by: Punisher703 | November 6, 2009 10:53 AM | Report abuse

dkidwell61,

Cerrato was NOT in charge in San Fran. He was part of the personnel team there, NOT in charge.

Oh, and when he was there, he was NOT in charge of the personnel team that brought Haley, Sanders et al. Nope, did NOT happen and your ability to defend Snyder - if you are not seriously employed by him - is a little refreshing, honestly.

Good luck with turning the tide, but again, Cerrato was NEVER in charge in San Fran and he definitely did NOT 'make it happen'! He was "what we thought he was" - a mid-level scout with a knack for 'charming it up'. Period. Don't go defending Cerrato, there is nothing up that tree. ZERO.

Posted by: tony11 | November 6, 2009 12:40 PM | Report abuse

dkidwell61 wrote, "To make this out to be a "devious" plan is a bit of a stretch!! I'll give it the stupid label and leave it at that!!"

You still don't get it do you? Of course you can rationalize his actions and how he somehow did other things which you claim negated or balanced his intent. And it was his intent that was devious, I would have never done such a terrible thing. In my opinion, that thought process illustrated Snyder's mindset. And that mindset is make money any way possible, even if it means ripping off families and the people who literally support your beloved Redskins.

You can call my assessment of Dan Snyder stupid, or use any other term you feel, but it doesn't change the fact that Snyder has no compassion for others.

Once again, his two primary goals in life are to maximize profits and see the Redskins win. He's very good at the first, even if it means ripping off his team's fans, and he has no clue when it comes to the latter.

I hope Snyder remains the owner and never changes, it will be interesting to see how long the suckers continue to pour money into his team.

Posted by: rtbt | November 6, 2009 3:15 PM | Report abuse

I heard some interesting commentary on ESPN 980 this morning as I was driving to work. It was a very long list of good things Snyder has done. I can't remember them all and I wasn't able to write anything down, but just a few that I remember:

-When Rashad Bauman was no longer on the team, Snyder flew him home when his brother was murdered.

-When a player (?) was diagnosed with the same thyroid cancer that Snyder had, Snyder set him up with his physician and paid for the entire treatment.

-When Hurricane Katrina destroyed New Orleans, Snyder flew Robert Royal's family out and put them up in Mississippi until they could go back home.

-When Renaldo Wynn severely broke his arm in the playoff game at Tampa, Snyder's wife stayed with him in the hospital all night, and Snyder flew Wynn's family to Tampa to be with him.

-When Santana Moss had a personal problem in training camp, Snyder allowed him use of his jet to go home to Miami and back.

-When Sean Taylor died, Snyder acted with as much class and dignity as a person could. Snyder didn't have to set up a trust fund for Taylor's daughter, but he did. How many other owners in the NFL would give as much as Snyder has given?

Snyder has made mistakes in running the Redskins franchise, but he is not a bad person. He does not have a dark heart.

Posted by: midniterc | November 6, 2009 3:45 PM | Report abuse

midniterc, that was good reading and it was nice to know that Snyder has his moments when he can be a warm human being. Since I don't know him personally, my comments were relegated strictly to his relationship with the fans that support his team. Snyder will do anything he can to make money off them and sees them as nothing more than a source of extra revenue.

The fact that Snyder has moments when he treats individuals well is a very good thing. But for my money, it doesn't change his relationship with the Redskin fans. Just read this forum, and others, and you will see the venom people have for him. Why do people hate him so much? The answer isn't because he treats them well.

I often wonder how Snyder feels when he reads all of those horrible things about him. There are times I almost feel sorry for this billionaire, but then I catch myself and remember he brought all this on himself.

The Redskins Franchise used to be a proud member of the NFL, now they're one of the league's jokes. With all of the numerous changes of direction the past decade, there's been one constant, Daniel Snyder was running the show. For my money, he's the Isiah Thomas of DC.

Posted by: rtbt | November 6, 2009 4:46 PM | Report abuse

dkidwell61 wrote, "To make this out to be a "devious" plan is a bit of a stretch!! I'll give it the stupid label and leave it at that!!"

You still don't get it do you? Of course you can rationalize his actions and how he somehow did other things which you claim negated or balanced his intent. And it was his intent that was devious, I would have never done such a terrible thing. In my opinion, that thought process illustrated Snyder's mindset. And that mindset is make money any way possible, even if it means ripping off families and the people who literally support your beloved Redskins.

You can call my assessment of Dan Snyder stupid, or use any other term you feel, but it doesn't change the fact that Snyder has no compassion for others.

Once again, his two primary goals in life are to maximize profits and see the Redskins win. He's very good at the first, even if it means ripping off his team's fans, and he has no clue when it comes to the latter.

I hope Snyder remains the owner and never changes, it will be interesting to see how long the suckers continue to pour money into his team.

Posted by: rtbt | November 6, 2009 3:15 PM | Report abuse

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You obviously choose not to read things, but instead go on the defensive!! I NEVER called your assessment stupid!! Since you copied and pasted the paragraph in question, I figured you had understood that it was his plan that I had called stupid!!
You make it out that he did some horrible thing!! Get a grip!! Maybe you have forgotten the little fact that it is still a business!!! If you want to run it differently, make Snyder an offer!!

Posted by: dkidwell61 | November 6, 2009 5:22 PM | Report abuse

dkidwell61,

Cerrato was NOT in charge in San Fran. He was part of the personnel team there, NOT in charge.

Oh, and when he was there, he was NOT in charge of the personnel team that brought Haley, Sanders et al. Nope, did NOT happen and your ability to defend Snyder - if you are not seriously employed by him - is a little refreshing, honestly.

Good luck with turning the tide, but again, Cerrato was NEVER in charge in San Fran and he definitely did NOT 'make it happen'! He was "what we thought he was" - a mid-level scout with a knack for 'charming it up'. Period. Don't go defending Cerrato, there is nothing up that tree. ZERO.

Posted by: tony11 | November 6, 2009 12:40 PM | Report abuse

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From 1991 until 1995 he was Director of College Scouting and was given credit for finding Ted Washington, Ricky Waters, Dana Stubblefield and Bryant Young.
In 1995 he was promoted to Director of Player Personnel which included all college and pro scouting as well as draft responsibilities. Drafted while he was in that position were JJ Stokes, Terrell Owens, RW McQuarters, etc.
I NEVER mentioned Haley since he was drafted years before Cerrato ever arrived in SF, and I don't know who you are talking about with Sanders since anyone with football knowledge would remember that Deion Sanders was drafted by the Falcons not the 49ers.

Posted by: dkidwell61 | November 6, 2009 5:40 PM | Report abuse

dkidwell61, I apologize to you because I misunderstood what you wrote. Having said that, nobody was getting defensive, I was doing what you did and continue to do in this forum, debating issues.

As for the Redskins being Snyder's business, you are 100% correct. Who am I to tell him how to run his business? He's already doing a fabulous job of antagonizing the nation's captital without any input from me.

I'm not sure why you place motives on me but once again I think you're wrong. As I stated above, I hope Snyder keeps the team, never changes his policies and/or strategies, continues to rip off his own fans, and directs the franchise to another ten years of mediocrity and/or even worse.

I'm more interested in how long Redskin fans will continue to complain about him while supporting him financially.

Posted by: rtbt | November 6, 2009 6:23 PM | Report abuse

Collinsworth is clearly trying to manipulate Riggo's point into a scandal.

Riggo hits the nail on the head with a piledriver.

'Dark heart' comment doesn't suggest evil, rather that Snyder is an insecure man who surrounds himself with unqualified lap dogs. This insecurity is a trait of many successful, albeit, infamous leaders and is probably the reason they achieve such heights.

The great leaders put their followers and what's best for the organization above themselves. Personal adulation generally follows.

Probably too heavy for football, but hey, I love my Skins and hate to see them swirl down the toilet.


Posted by: troyyeske1 | November 7, 2009 3:48 AM | Report abuse

Good job Riggins.
Riggins has a Superbowl Ring, Superbowl MVP and is in the Hall of Fame. That's 3 things nobody on this Redskin franchise will ever have.
Now Greg Blache is defending Snyder. It looks like Blache and the rest of the Redskins have sold their soul to the highest bidder.
This sickens me.

Posted by: RalphZero | November 7, 2009 6:11 AM | Report abuse

John you are 100 percent right.First I didn't like the way he treated the out going ownership,second when he bought this team He was a fan and he thinks anyone can run a football team. This team has gotten worst every year. I feel really bad for our players because this season is over. Dan Snider has lost credibility. He should hire a general manager

Posted by: bclsallen | November 8, 2009 1:21 PM | Report abuse

you can hurt Snyder by not going to the games yes the ticket would be wasted but think about it, no fans means no food,drinks or anything being bought and that means he isn't making money

Posted by: bclsallen | November 8, 2009 1:32 PM | Report abuse

I used to admire this guy’s business prowess and his ability to maximize his investment. But what about OUR investment. We’ve gotten NO return for 10 years. Riggins speaks for the fans when most others tread lightly around the man who is buying up everything so he can control it all.

Would love to see a group offer him enough money to make him go away.

http://www.savetheskins.com (Get your own SELL THE TEAM, DAN bumper stickers)

Posted by: whoelseccs | November 9, 2009 9:01 AM | Report abuse

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