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Kornheiser vs. Wise, Part XXVII

Executive summary: Tony Kornheiser used much of his opening radio statement Monday morning to call out Mike Wise without ever mentioning his name. So the lovefest continues. And one has to wonder whether Mike Wise--who happens to have a radio show directly opposite Kornheiser's--will see fit to respond.

After the Redskins lost to the Falcons, Mike Wise--and a whole lot of other people--wondered whether the Redskins would win again. Some excerpts from his WaPo column:

Now, after the most embarrassing and poorly executed first half of this increasingly depressing season, there is one goal dovetailing into one not-altogether bizarre question: Can the Redskins win another game this season?...

The Redskins' worst detractors never imagined 4-12 or, who knows at this point, 3-13? Really, it's not unfathomable anymore to see Washington finish 2-14, loser of 12 straight. At best, how can anyone make a realistic case for anything more than five wins after what they saw on Sunday? ...

Even a blind optimist -- and we have been there -- would have a hard time finding any indication this is going to get better any time soon, that a confidence-building victory is around the corner....

To think that Atlanta had a short week to prepare, coming off a Monday night game, and the Redskins had an extra week thanks to their bye would only serve to infuriate the Washington fans more. Why go there, when it's easier to look ahead to maybe the only sliver of hope left, the lone remaining bright spot on the calendar: Dec. 13. Oakland or bust, baby.

Ok, so after the Redskins beat the Broncos seven days later, you could sort of ignore this column. Or, if you hosted a radio show that went directly against Wise's radio show, and you had spent a half-decade tweaking Wise, you could pounce.

"Boswell writes the single best paragraph in the paper today," Tony Kornheiser said Monday morning. "Other things that are written are insane, which I will get to."

And he did. But first, he reminded listeners that only if you've lived in Washington for at least 25 years or so are you qualified to write about Washington sports.

"Now, how did the Redskins win?" Kornheiser asked. "They won in the way--and I guess you'd have to have lived here, or paid attention for a while and not come to town and start writing columns when you don't know--they won in the way that they won, as David [Aldridge] and Jeanne [McManus] know, every year for the last 25 years with the exception of 1991, when Mark Rypien was throwing it 60 yards in the air. They won by running the ball. Am I right on this?

["You are correct sir, yup yup, hmm hmm, you are correct," his co-hosts said.]

"This is how they always won," Kornheiser said.

"Did you notice, by the way, if you watched--and you didn't have to turn the sound way up--did you hear it?" Kornheiser later asked. "Did you hear how happy people seemed to be in that stadium? The notion that somehow everybody was walking out in protest--did anybody walk out, David?"

"It just reinforces to me, time and again, that if you're not from here and you haven't lived here a long time, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS TEAM MEANS TO THIS CITY," Aldridge said. "Tony, there were people weeping at the end of this game as we're walking out. People were crying, people were hugging each other. They were screaming at the top of their lungs as they were walking out of FedEx field. It was unbelievable."

"I haven't heard that noise in years," Kornheiser said. "It just sounded so great. Look, I'm not a homer, I don't think they're gonna win five....Dallas is gonna kill 'em....[But] the notion that people who have written columns in this city saying they're not gonna win any more games. THE NEXT GAME THEY WON. Now what is your position? Now you write a column saying optimism is unbridled and we can go all the way? Is that what you're gonna tell people, because you have no idea what you're talking about?"

[More laughing and cackling from co-hosts.]

"People who are football fans understand--if they've been around for a while--they understand that in the years before baseball came back to Denver and D.C., these are the two cities in America, the two large cities in America, for which football was everything," Kornheiser eventually said, to conclude the segment. "So if you beat Denver--and I don't care if Denver's 0-9--if you beat Denver, that's a big deal. Because Denver is a city that loved its football team in the way that Washington loves its football team.

"And again--and this was I believe missed in the commentary, so I'm gonna just keep harping on it. I don't read very much, because as soon as I get disgusted I stop reading--but this is the way the Redskins used to win games. Take '91 out of it, because Rypien just had this unbelievable sort of anti-Redskin year....The way they won, the way they stayed in games always was the same. They ran the ball. They handed it to backs, multiple backs, they ran the ball....

"And look, you could have every reason to look at what happened the last few weeks and say they're not gonna win another game. David and I are not sure they're gonna win another game. But when you take that position in print, they're not gonna win any other games, and they win the next week, that is what we like to call in the trade a hummina hummina hummina situation for you."

Your move, Wise.

By Dan Steinberg  |  November 17, 2009; 7:19 AM ET
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TK is right. If you haven't been here you don't understand. I listened to wise at the begining. Then he got on his high hippy horse about the name. I am 1/4 Cherokee. 3 games this season we have had NATIVE AMERICANS from as far away as Mexico and Arizona come to games and visit us (www.myspace.com/diesel50gut). I ask them thier opinon on the name and express nothing but pride that a classic and one time classy organization represents them as a people, as a sense of pride. If we could not be called the Washington Redskins you take a lot of away from Natives and Washingtonians than anyone who is not from the area could imagine.

Posted by: promond | November 17, 2009 12:13 AM | Report abuse

Isn't Kornheiser vs. Wise kinda like Jay-Z vs. Soulja Boy (or LeBron vs. Stevenson) all over again?

Posted by: fushezzi | November 17, 2009 9:58 AM | Report abuse

What is it with Kornheiser and bald, funny, younger writers in the Post's sports section? Oh ... maybe that question answered itself.

Posted by: disgruntledfan | November 17, 2009 10:26 AM | Report abuse

I've lived here for 25 years and I still think the Redskins may finish with between 3 and 6 wins.

Posted by: sseannorris | November 17, 2009 10:28 AM | Report abuse

For consistency, shouldn't this be Kornheiser vs. Wise, Part XXVI?

Posted by: jgperras | November 17, 2009 10:36 AM | Report abuse

I don't think this has much to do with the Redskins. Kornheiser has always felt a bit threatened by Wise (for no practical reason, Tony is still incredibly successful). But Wise pens the most regular sports column in the paper that Tony is no longer a part of and I believe Wise's radio ratings are stacking up surprisingly well against Kornheiser's...

Posted by: Kev29 | November 17, 2009 10:36 AM | Report abuse

"'Now, how did the Redskins win?' Kornheiser asked."

They won because the opponent's starting quarterback got hurt, and the backup was really bad.

Posted by: tegularius | November 17, 2009 10:42 AM | Report abuse

The won by having the opponents QB getting hurt and then having a terribly defended fake punt work.

Posted by: cao091402 | November 17, 2009 10:47 AM | Report abuse

Wise >>> Kornheiser

Posted by: tha_prophet | November 17, 2009 10:59 AM | Report abuse

Viva La mike Wise
Kornheiser is a bitter old man

Posted by: G20FdaCowboys | November 17, 2009 11:01 AM | Report abuse

Seems to me that Kornheiser is making no point at all.

His premise is that Wise is dumb for saying the Redskins won't win another game this season - a point Kornheiser agrees with repeatedly in the broadcast.

His next point is that people were happy with the win, and somehow Mike Wise would never understand this.

Um...ok Tony. Good...point?

Posted by: ThisGuy | November 17, 2009 11:01 AM | Report abuse

@cao091402 and because Malcolm Kelly and Devin Thomas had career games.

Posted by: inchesfromyourface | November 17, 2009 11:03 AM | Report abuse

There's so much of this that makes no sense. So Tony, and Aldridge, are saying that they really didn't believe the Redskins would win again all year--something Jason Reid, the Redskins beat guy, also has said in chats--but they're criticizing Wise for writing that? (His column yesterday, which raised the possibility of an eight-game winning streak, was much more problematic.)

The fact that the Redskins won by running the ball a lot--that is relevant to what exactly? Considering Cerrato hired Zorn to install a West Coast offense, which doesn't utilize a Gibbs-like power running game, and then hired Sherm Lewis to call plays because he knew the West Coast offense, why would anyone expect them to go to a power running game this week?

And if Tony is so knowledgeable about sports in D.C. (something which was definitely true in the pre-PTI days, but seemed to atrophy over the last few years), why did he stop writing columns for the Post? (And his BS about being forced to retire by the Post is ridiculous--how could they not want him to take the buyout when he'd written one column in the previous two years?)

Wise's columns are sometimes wacky--and he's still learning about hockey--but his profile of Brashear earlier this year and his piece on John Kent Cooke were both great.

Posted by: TheFingerman | November 17, 2009 11:05 AM | Report abuse

Pondering if the Redskins can win another game is not the same thing as saying "The Redskins will not win another game."

It's right there in the first Paragraph of Wise's Column: "Can the Redskins win Another Game?" Most reasonable fans were wondering this.

The answer was "Yes."

TK is stoking this because he's always felt threatened by Wise and because "Radio Rivalries are good for Ratings" is one of the oldest tricks in the book...

It got Steinz to give him a free advertisement, didn't it?

Posted by: VTDuffman | November 17, 2009 11:08 AM | Report abuse

Man....TK should go back to the Style section from whence he came. He got lucky with the Bandwagon back in the day.

Darn if I've never heard him drop a "you're not from here" on his boy Wilbon, who can't be bothered to attend or even watch a Nats game before he drops a load on the team in the the paper.

Tony's good on the radio, but not because he has anything intelligent to say about sports, so if I'm looking for sports insight or analysis, print or radio, I go to Wise. For jokes and TV analysis, TK all the way, but really, you're out of your element, Tony....

Posted by: buckwheaton1 | November 17, 2009 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Kornheiser is a loudmouth jerk who simply can't stand it that he's not the only star in town. Buckwheaton is right -- the fact that Wilbonehead is an out-of-towner never seems to bother Tony. Then again, I was born here -- TONY is a latecomer as far as I'm concerned.

Posted by: bethesdaguy | November 17, 2009 11:58 AM | Report abuse

remind me which local high school/college TK went to? did he grow up in MOCO or NOVA?

pretty sure when he arrived here from new york, TK had no problem jumping right in on critiquing the local teams. i like tony but when he goes off on stupid stuff like this it just sounds sad and bitter. so what if he took your spot at the post, you barely wrote anything longer than four inches anyway.

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | November 17, 2009 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Uh-oh! Wise just issued a 1pm ultimatum for Wise or Alridge to call in or else he's gonna out them in some form or fashion.

Oooooooooooo...fight! fight!

Lol.

Although I doubt they'll call in cause the ratings'll go to Wise. Wonder if Wise would call in to their show tomorrow.

Posted by: FrankfurtFreddie | November 17, 2009 12:18 PM | Report abuse

wise can't call in to their show, cause he's on for 4 hours (10-2) while kornheiser is on from from 10-12. but knowing tony's self-promoting doing-nothing-for-free attitude, he'll probably ask for a simulcast (when the interview is on in both stations) much like Vinny Cerrato did with Colin Cowherd last year when their interview was on in both stations.

Posted by: kman2 | November 17, 2009 12:24 PM | Report abuse

kornheiser is just BITTER from not writing anymore. if he's not making some stupid jokes where his co-hosts laugh like 3 year-olds when they watch sesame street, he's taking shots at tons of people--from the Slate writer to the chief at WaPo who kicked TK out, to the guy who changed the WaPo layout to Wall Street Journal (who the hell cares?!?!?!), and now, Mike Wise, who has had his fair share of excellent articles. TK needs to realize that, just like he used to, all columnists now have freedom to write columns at their own discretion. I've been an avid follower of Wise and TK for a long time, and Wise has never said anything even REMOTELY offensive towards TK.
TK is a huge jerk, and all his negative actions stem from bitterness. getting fired at MNF and WaPo....if not for those, TK show would have nothing. Just imagine the hellfire that would result if PTI were to unexpectedly change hosts. LOL.

Posted by: kman2 | November 17, 2009 12:30 PM | Report abuse

I guess it's been so long since TK wrote a column (no, those two paragraph transcripts that he did a while ago don't count), he's forgotten that a columnist should have an opinion.

And, as others have said, he's from New York. I'm from Arlington, and I like Mike. And think Tony's phony. Wise risked his life for his dog, for pete's sake; TK wouldn't spit on the guy next to him if he was on fire. He's make fun of him and try to figure out a way to make some coin off it.

Posted by: mike8 | November 17, 2009 12:48 PM | Report abuse

I love the day after a Redskins land as all the bandwagonners and clueless fans come out and start talking about playoff chances for 3-6 team with the bulk of its hardest games on tap.

Seriously, the Skins beat a relatively west coast team traveling for the second time in 3 weeks to the east coast. Coming off a MNF game and after playing two physical teams that was leading 17-14 going into the 4th quarter...and lost their starting QB.

whoa... I'm shocked the Broncos (who are not good in the least just lived on the edge for the first part of the season and it has caught up to them)... ran out of steam.

Posted by: SteelHop | November 17, 2009 1:00 PM | Report abuse

@inchesfromyourface: Can't tell if you're trying to be funny or not. If funny, fine. But if not, they combined for 3 cathces for 53 yards. If that's a career day, then good luck with all that.

Posted by: cao091402 | November 17, 2009 1:08 PM | Report abuse

@cao091402 yes, I was being sarcastic. I agree with your original comment. 53 yards is a career day for the 2 of them, no?

/weeps

Posted by: inchesfromyourface | November 17, 2009 1:30 PM | Report abuse

@Steelhop

While some of the radio guys and columnists have been filling airwaves/paperspace with talk of playoff possibilities, I would bet my life there's sure there's not a single fan (including the writers) who actually believes it will happen. It's just for conversation's sake. We know who we are. Stop hating.

Posted by: Tom703 | November 17, 2009 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Too many of the WP reporters covering the team are not from here and/or completely unqualified to give any meaningful analysis. Tracie Hamilton, Mike Wise, Sally Jenkings, the retard writing this blog..... they all write articles about the mistakes made by the team/coach/front office, yet they have the same football pedigree as the readers.... NONE! Yes the team is bad this year, but not near as bad and disfunctional as the WP would like you to think it is. The WP has a vendetta against Snyder. That is the real story. I wish TK would just come right out and say it... because the WP's writers are too chicken (explative) to admit it.

TK's point about not living in DC for 25 years has to do with these writers who just can't fathom why the whole city is not revolting (as encouraged to do by this blog) because the owner banned signs, sold to scalpers and has a "dark heart". It is real simple... most of the outrage is by people who are not season ticketholders. Season tickeholders are only upset at the losses. To write a credible article about the fans feelings about the team, you have to have been here for more than a few years. You can't just cherrypick photos from a bunch of single game ticket purchasers and act like the entire city is revolting. Anyone at that stadium this week would admit that the shirts and signs were held by a small minority of fans. Most long times fans, while upset at the record, are still staying positive.

And honestly, if any fans want to jump ship, go right ahead. Turn in your tickets, and don't go to the game and root for the cowboys. We don't need fair weather fans!

HTTR!

Posted by: forsythe332 | November 17, 2009 1:58 PM | Report abuse

It's over. Wise wins by a landslide.

Posted by: sitruc | November 17, 2009 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Just wish TK would use his talents and energy on other things instead of bashing former collegues. He had his time at he Post and it's over. Move on TK.

Posted by: bbride1 | November 17, 2009 2:13 PM | Report abuse

I'm not a Mike Wise fan, but this is just embarrassing for Kornheiser. He's acting like a 13 year old cheerleader who's jealous of the new girl on the squad.

Posted by: TGT11 | November 17, 2009 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Mike Wise is a sanctimonious poser who picks pet issues to harp on in order to feed his sense of moral superiority. He couldn't carry TK's jock.......Wow, what a disgusting thought!

Posted by: yampaco | November 17, 2009 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Wise hit Tony in one place that's going to hurt - Kornheiser is a friend of Snyder - he sits in the owners box and works at his station. Not the best way to have this town behind you at the moment.

And I think it's rich that Tony is trying to play up the local angle. He's still in the tank for New York - decades after leaving there. He knows next to nothing about the local teams other than the Redskins and tidbits about the Wizards. At least Wise is trying to sink in to the area.

Posted by: Kev29 | November 17, 2009 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Glad that Redskins management chimed in. Nice job, Karl!

Posted by: mike8 | November 17, 2009 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Wow, Kornheiser has a radio show... who knew? The ratings certainly point to him having no audience or reach in this town anymore.

Just keep talking to dead air and your phony and hacky Irish sidekick Nigel.

Posted by: S2DU | November 17, 2009 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Had Denver's starting quarterback not been injured one would suspect that the Redskins very well might not have won the game. With their performances for the first eight games of the season, why would anyone other than an unrealistic optimist expect them to win again (after all they don't play any more teams that are winless). I guess TK has never been wrong - come on man!!!

Posted by: Jimb099 | November 17, 2009 2:49 PM | Report abuse

PTI >>> Every single thing Mike Wise does.

I like Mike Wise as a columnist, but isn't it obvious that Wise always wants what TK has?

Posted by: bermanator34 | November 17, 2009 2:52 PM | Report abuse

I like Mike Wise as a columnist, but isn't it obvious that Wise always wants what TK has?

Posted by: bermanator34 | November 17, 2009 2:52 PM

What sports writer in his right mind doesn't?

Posted by: Kev29 | November 17, 2009 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Big fan of both Tony and Wise, but here's the truth.

Sally Jenkins wrote in a column in November 2005 that the Redskins were done when they were 5-6. 5 weeks later, at 10-6, Tony K was loudly calling out Sally J for her silly comments. So Tony K has a history of doing this.

Mike Wise wrote in a column in November 2006 that he adamantly believed the Terps and Miami should not play their game, after a Hurricane player had been killed earlier in the week. Then the day after the game, Wise wrote a column about how great the game was. So Wise has a history of flip flopping.

So there you have the truth, that this is just a couple of old colleagues doing what they do.

Posted by: Barno1 | November 17, 2009 2:59 PM | Report abuse

@forsythe
Do you like crack and coffee mixed together? Calm down and stop talking like a runaway train that hit a pile of exclamation points and jumped the tacks.

Posted by: bouncinggorilla | November 17, 2009 3:09 PM | Report abuse

You have to live here 25 years before you can comment on the Skins? It should be 60! You should have watched Sammy Baugh play, live, in person. Wait, Tony K probably did when he was in high school. By the way, I wonder whether anyone outside his family can spell his last name without looking it up. Seriously, Wise should be annoyed. The Post's editors hired him, so Tony should have the class to keep quiet about a (former) colleague. It's not like any of them will win Nobel Prizes for literature anyway.

Posted by: DCBruin1 | November 17, 2009 3:16 PM | Report abuse

By the way, I wonder whether anyone outside his family can spell his last name without looking it up.

Posted by: DCBruin1 | November 17, 2009 3:16 PM |

Thanks for outing yourself as an ignorant moron

Posted by: Barno1 | November 17, 2009 3:27 PM | Report abuse

"and you didn't have to turn the sound way up--did you hear it?" Kornheiser later asked. "Did you hear how happy people seemed to be in that stadium?"


did kornheiser notice, that the stadium was only (maybe) 2/3rds full?

the bottom row seats were 1/2 empty on one side of the stadium. so, yeah, with the over-miked audience mics turned up fullblast on the broadcast, it was loud. the pre-arranged sweeping cam shots of the crowd going crazy I thought were bizarre showing how many empty seats there were.

TK hasn't written anything useful since Gibbs I. I still remember one of his articles from the petitbon year and thinking he was an idiot. I like him ok otherwise.

Posted by: malcolmyoung1 | November 17, 2009 3:29 PM | Report abuse

kornheiser is not the easiest name to spell. but barno clearly has the most ridiculous sports media memory in the DC area. who remembers random columns from 2005? impressive (and a little weird)

Posted by: jpfterps | November 17, 2009 3:38 PM | Report abuse

I'm sorry maybe it's easy to spell, but I just skip over it every time I see it in print because I know there's nothing intelligent there.

Posted by: DCBruin1 | November 17, 2009 3:42 PM | Report abuse

@Barno1: "and you didn't have to turn the sound way up--did you hear it?" Kornheiser later asked. "Did you hear how happy people seemed to be in that stadium?"


did kornheiser notice, that the stadium was only (maybe) 2/3rds full?

86000 was the reported attendance (if my memory isn't horribly faulty). I'm no math wiz but that seems a bit more than 2/3's full. And did you listen to the on field post game? Or talk to anyone who was at the game? That place was far from quiet.

Posted by: whyjibboo | November 17, 2009 4:13 PM | Report abuse

I hate Kornheiser but he's right about Wise. The guy comes here from who the hell knows where and all of a sudden proclaims himself an expert on local sports, including lecturing on what the local football team should and shouldn't be named. Even someone as arrogant as Kornheiser hasn't done that. Wise is an arrogant jerk.

Posted by: poguesmahone | November 17, 2009 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Kornheiser has been useless for years, and having done nothing of value for the post since '91, he finally got his come-uppance in '08. But only after he had virtually disconnected himself from the business of writing altogether. I really have no love for Kornheiser, BUT he's not totally wrong about Wise. Wise does have a tin ear for DC sports. It will get better over time. What he does really well is NBA and hockey. The Redskins thing is a stretch for him, but that's fine ... neither of them is in the same league as a Boswell or Wilbon, but not everyone will be. The upshot is this is like watching two mediocre talents spat with one another, while the real talent stays well above the fray.

Posted by: DCUnited2 | November 17, 2009 7:22 PM | Report abuse

Wise & Kornheiser are both TNYAH (Typical NY A-Holes). But Tony has been OUR A-Hole for 30+ years. He created Bandwagon. He does PTI. There was a TV show based on him & hos books. He hosted MNF. WTF has Wise done? Just because any Donk can get a radio show, Internet column, or ink in the Post these days (Who the hell is Trahceeyie Hamilton?!) doesn't mean WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU!
Wise, GFY! Tony, you da man!

Posted by: jwm1974 | November 17, 2009 8:38 PM | Report abuse

First off, Sally Jenkins knocks the socks off both these guys when she tees up a column.
Korny has been mailing it in for so long that he should get a Postal Service pension.
Wise, at least, still does tons of legwork on his reporting. Witness the John Kent Cooke feature and the Brashear take.
So of those two baldies, give me Wise anyday. Korny's stance that you have to have lived here 25 years to understand the Skins' ethos is laughable. But so is nearly everything else this clown does while passing off as a journalist. I've never liked MNF so much as when Gruden replaced Korny, who always struck me as a Howard Cosell wannabe without the talent, reputation or clout of Howard.

Posted by: Sunshine_Bobby_Carpenter_Is_Too_Pessimistic_For_Me | November 17, 2009 8:38 PM | Report abuse

Didn't Wilbon take on Sally Jenkins a few years ago about writing about Jordan from New York? I agree Sunshine about Gruden. I never would have expected that I would like listening to him on MNF for even a minute, but he's been good this season, even in tedious games like last night. The larger question about Tony K and the other writers/radio hosts/TV personalities is how much they feel they need to shill for the local team. It doesn't really happen here in town with any other team besides the Skins. When the other teams are bad, no one pays attention so the columnists aren't put in the position of having to write a column that doesn't make them look like cheerleaders. In such cases, they know their access is at risk, so they temper their views--or they choose to sit in the owners box and crow when they win because the other team's starting QB went out. The Skins were a twisted ankle away from getting blown out.

Posted by: DCBruin1 | November 17, 2009 8:57 PM | Report abuse

TK is still steamed that wise wrote a colum after Tony's 1st night doing NMF and tore him up. TK will never let that go and take any shot he can at Wise.

Posted by: qballgeek | November 17, 2009 11:16 PM | Report abuse

"TK is still steamed that wise wrote a colum after Tony's 1st night doing NMF and tore him up." I believe it was Paul Farhi (not Mike Wise) who wrote that particular column, and apparently they're still not on speaking terms.

On-air feuds with other sports radio hosts are nothing new for Kornheiser - in the past he's sparred with longtime WMAL (and later WTEM) evening host Ken Beatrice and nationally syndicated host Jim Rome.

Posted by: Mike_In_Fairfax | November 18, 2009 10:05 AM | Report abuse

I say Wise and TK go 'Kimbo Slice' and mix it up...for Charity.

Three 30 second rounds in the best known octagon there is: The Capitol Rotunda

LIVE on Pay-Per-View

Title it: The Bald for it All

Unless TK talks him to death, Wise should win by TKO in the 2nd.

Posted by: kahlua87 | November 18, 2009 3:27 PM | Report abuse

This pretty much confirms what everyone pretty much assumed...Tony K is a self-absorbed nut job. A talented writer but a nutjob never the less. Wise would best off (wise?) to ignore the blowhard and continue providing excellent analysis. Wonder what Tony is going to say if they lose the next six games? They should throw the ball?

Posted by: slombardo | November 18, 2009 6:19 PM | Report abuse

I don't get how Kornheiser maintains his employment anywhere. To me, he is not insightful or funny. He is opinionated but never informative. I much prefer Wilbon and others over Kornheiser. I guess most of America does also as he was replaced on Monday Night Football by Gruden, aka. Chucky, who himself, has no business being in broadcast.
Kornheiser, stop going after others. You are not sports expert nor are you a comedian. You come across as an arogant tyrant.

Posted by: neil64 | November 19, 2009 1:28 AM | Report abuse

Gee, Shirley Povich and Mo Siegel were each better than any sports writer in town today -- and they were both smart, funny and gracious.

Oh, wait, that's more than 25 years ago....

Posted by: ourbroker | November 22, 2009 1:40 AM | Report abuse

Kornheisers show is lame. I dont really care for Wise either but he is better than TK on the radio and better than I thought he would be honestly.


Why does Kornheiser have those background flunkies on the show? All the do is laugh nonstop at his mostly unfunny comments. That womans laugh is particularly irritating.

Given that they are both avowed leftists as far as I can tell, it is amusing they are feuding.

Also the "Nigel" shtick got old about 3 years ago. What a buffoon that poor guy must feel like being ordered to run that tired act out every day.

I also feel bead for Sheehan, he is a pro and doesnt deserve to have to deal with that clown. I get the feeling he wants to tear Kornheiser a new one when he continually interrupts him.

Posted by: jp142 | November 22, 2009 7:29 AM | Report abuse

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