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Local Poll Week II: The Obama effect

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Not a bad week for the locals. Georgetown remained unbeaten. William & Mary took down Wake Forest. Richmond felled Mississippi State and Missouri. Morgan State toppled Arkansas. GW hosted a sitting president. And Virginia survived against Cleveland State.

I think some critics of voting patterns might have a good bit to sift through here. Have at it. While there was a good bit of shuffling, including the Hoyas retaining the top spot that they've held so long, no teams entered or dropped out of the Top 11. Also, please look forward to one of the most exciting poll weeks of the season; Georgetown and Morgan State both play two all-local games, and six different ranked teams face each other.

Here are the totals. We have team, record (through Sunday's games), points and first-place votes. Last week's final standings are found below. More of the hilarious pithy comments will appear at a later time.

1. Georgetown (4-0) 1091 (95)
--Next: Monday vs. Mount St. Mary's, Saturday vs. American.
--Since the Terps dropped American this year, we should give props to the Hoyas for being the only local major with the courage to schedule a perpetually-at-home series against a Patriot League team that lost all its starters. (KC Costanzo)

2. Maryland (4-2) 810 (8)
--Next: Tuesday at Indiana, Sunday vs. Villanova.
--Terps will be the first to tell London Fletcher that going to Hawaii isn't all that cool. (Matt Kelly)

3. VCU (4-1) 789 (1)
--Next: Wednesday vs. Rhode Island, Saturday at No. 6 W&M.
--Opposing teams trying to psych out Rams by playing "I'm Every Woman" during pre-game introductions. (Jamie Paquette)

4. Virginia Tech (4-1) 594
--Next: Tuesday at Iowa, Sunday vs. Georgia.
--Drawing Iowa for the ACC/Big Ten Challenge is like watching your best friend hook up with this great girl, only you end up with her fat, ugly sister. Yes, Virginia Tech= the Lamar Odom of the ACC. (Jack Lambert)

5. Richmond (6-1) 531 (4)
--Next: Wednesday vs. No. 7 Old Dominion.
--Spiders win the South Padre Island Invitational; Chris Mooney celebrates by taking his top off in the postgame press conference. (Bill Fitzgerald)

6. William & Mary (4-2) 432 (1)
--Next: Wednesday vs. Longwood, Saturday vs. No. 3 VCU.
--Big upset at Wake Forest in the Inaugural "Enroll here if you're from Montgomery County and don't quite have Ivy League grades Invitational." (Markus Videnieks)

7. Old Dominion (4-2) 390 (1)
--Next: Wednesday at No. 5 Richmond, Saturday vs. Delaware.
--The negative: Went 0-2 at the South Padre Island Invitational. The positive: made it home from South Padre Island without anyone getting a tramp stamp. (Markus Videnieks)

8. George Mason (3-3) 369 (1)
--Next: Wednesday at No. 9 GW, Saturday at UNCW .
--Lost second-half lead at Tulane. In their defense, the Patriots are not the first to give it away in New Orleans. (Jack Lambert)

9. George Washington (4-1) 352
--Next: Wednesday vs. No. 8 G. Mason, Sunday at Navy.
--If SirValiant Brown were still at GW, would Obama have bowed to him? (Grant Kronenberg)

10. Virginia (4-2) 328
--Next: Monday vs. Penn State.
--Having the same record as Maryland doesn't have quite the panache it used to. Neither does "University of Virginia," for that matter. (Jake Leffler)

11. Morgan State (4-2) 176
--Next: Tuesday at Loyola, Saturday at Coppin State.
--If you had Morgan beating Arkansas and losing to Appalachian State this week, you are really wasting your time reading this poll. (Bill Fitzgerald)

Also receiving votes: Mount St. Mary's 67, Radford 36, Navy 26, American 25, Loyola 21, Coppin State 18, James Madison 17, Hampton 15, UMBC 9, VMI 9, Longwood 7, Norfolk State 4, Towson 3.

Last week's rankings
1. Maryland
2. Georgetown
3. Virginia Tech
4. VCU
5. George Mason
6. Old Dominion
7. George Washington
8. Virginia
9. Morgan State
10. Richmond
11. William & Mary

By Dan Steinberg  |  November 30, 2009; 4:47 PM ET
Categories:  Atlantic 11 , College Basketball  
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UMES should have gotten a vote out of respect for finally winning a non-MEAC game against a D1 opponent.

Posted by: mgv4232 | November 30, 2009 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Looks like W&M and GW also play two all-local games this week.

Posted by: mikeinrockville | November 30, 2009 5:16 PM | Report abuse

How is W & M still ranked below Richmond, when Richmond has only one loss, that being to W & M. Go Tribe!

Posted by: jcleggette | November 30, 2009 5:21 PM | Report abuse

I don't know jcleggette, I made sure to put William and Mary above Richmond on my ballot.

Posted by: amorris525 | November 30, 2009 6:02 PM | Report abuse

VT didn't lose to Temple. VTU did...

Posted by: sitruc | November 30, 2009 7:07 PM | Report abuse

W&M and Richmond were 3 and 4 in my ballot and Morgan at #7. And there's the Obama bowing joke I was looking for. Treat yourself to a Kronenberg, Grant Kronenberg!

Posted by: fitzfacts | November 30, 2009 8:14 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps it has something to do with w&m losing to Harvard.

Also, attention American voters - once a team loses to UMES, they are not allowed to accrue points.

Posted by: dimesmakedollars | November 30, 2009 8:59 PM | Report abuse

Over the past 8 years VCU has more wins than another other Virginia school and they are playing for their CAA 4th straight CAA regular season championship.

Dan - you need to come down to the STU and check them out!

Posted by: theclevz | November 30, 2009 9:03 PM | Report abuse

Huh? MD loses to the first decent opponents on their schedule and they only drop to #2 in the A-11?? Child Please!

Posted by: EShine | November 30, 2009 10:14 PM | Report abuse

Richmond will finish the year #1 and so will Videnieks, pithwise

Posted by: parkerbros | December 1, 2009 12:09 AM | Report abuse

I came across an online community for individual seeking interracial love. It is --Mixedmingle dot com--- All singles there are seeking interracial relationships. Interracial is not a problem here, but a great merit to cherish!

Posted by: sallyworking2006 | December 1, 2009 7:38 AM | Report abuse

Not sure how Maryland ended up so high. I had them way down on my ballot. Too many Homers out there.

Agree with parkerbros on Videnieks. He is the pithmeister.

Posted by: nordicus | December 1, 2009 9:53 AM | Report abuse

obama will do whatever it takes to put him in the news and on tv

Posted by: loneranger1937 | December 1, 2009 11:35 AM | Report abuse


yes, because GW games are usually so well covered by the media. and also because the President usually is just a blip on the media's daily radar. sometimes i go weeks without hearing about him and i have to ask myself: gee, i wonder what Obama (or Bush or Clinton, etc.) has been up to recently?

Posted by: dimesmakedollars | December 1, 2009 1:36 PM | Report abuse

obama will do whatever it takes to put him in the news and on tv

Posted by: loneranger1937


Or maybe he just decided to go to a basketball game because his brother-in-law was coaching one of the teams. Let go of your hate, young Padawan.

Posted by: js_edit | December 1, 2009 3:15 PM | Report abuse

"Richmond will finish the year #1 and so will Videnieks, pithwise

Posted by: parkerbros | December 1, 2009 12:09 AM | "

How does this happen when they are going to drop their next two to ODU and VCU! Ok, they may be Baine "the second best stache in the CAA" Taylor and his ODU butterflies, but the spiders are gonna get run down at the STU on the 12th!

Posted by: RamBand | December 2, 2009 11:09 AM | Report abuse

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