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Jacobs: "We took the stadium over"



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There were a decent number of Giants fans at FedEx Field on Monday night. From my vantage point, it was nothing absurd, certainly not when you consider that the Giants are still fighting for a playoff berth, and the Redskins are, you know, not. And with New York dominating at halftime, and throughout the third quarter, and throughout the fourth quarter, the percentage of Giants fans steadily grew.

So when a playoff team ends up beating a non-playoff team by 33 points, in a stadium that seats 90,000, right before Christmas, two days after a snowstorm, on a chilly night, you would absolutely expect the visitors to have a dominant presence in the stands by the game's end.

That said, the "Let's Go Giants!" chants were loud. Really loud. Loud enough that the Giants' defenders on the field were gesturing with their hands in the air, asking the crowd to provide more noise, dancing around with joy. That's just weird.

"We took the stadium over," Brandon Jacobs said. "You know, that's what we do every year here. We come to D.C., half of the stadium is Giants fans. And by the end of the fourth quarter, all the Washington fans is gone and it ends up just like it is....It feels great. It feels great to go into any stadium and take it over. But it's a two-hour train ride, and people made the trip, and we was excited to see a lot of fans here."

Others were slightly less effusive, but the general point was similar.

"It was crazy," Osi Umenyiora said. "It was a Giants crowd, man. It was a pro-Giants crowd. It was crazy."

I asked when he realized how many Giants fans were here.

"I would say from the beginning," Umenyiora said. "I mean, it was a bunch of Giants fans here, so I'm happy about that. It probably won't be like that every time we come down here, but in this instance it was, and we're happy for it."

Other players said they didn't notice the Giants' presence until later in the game.

"Towards the end of the game, when they were chanting Let's Go Giants, you can't beat that," Kevin Boss said. "That's pretty special, to be able to hear that."

"It was awesome to see," tackle David Diehl said. "One of the things we talked about all week is starting fast and getting momentum on our side and trying to get the crowd out of it. I didn't think at the end it'd be that loud--Let's Go Giants. It's an exciting time for us."

Even defensive tackle Barry Cofield brought up the crowd, out of the blue, when discussing the win.

"We had a lot of fans out there, too," Cofield said. "It really wasn't a bad home-field advantage. We had a lot of fans, and I felt like we fed off of them. We were playing for a lot more than [the Redskins] were, so if we couldn't win this game, we don't deserve to be in the postseason."

Someone asked him later whether he expected so many Giants fans.

"I was kind of surprised," Cofield said. "Maybe it was the weather, I don't know. Like I said, this was a must-win game for us, and just another game for them. They're out of contention. But it was great to see so many blue shirts, and hear the crowd on our side."

By Dan Steinberg  |  December 22, 2009; 2:19 AM ET
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Comments

Redskin fans are fairweather= disappear.

Posted by: zcxnissan | December 22, 2009 3:27 AM | Report abuse

Jacobs shouldn't be allowed to speak. The only chant I heard on television was for Snyder...

Posted by: sitruc | December 22, 2009 3:37 AM | Report abuse

QB Comparisons as of 12/22/09:
Campbell 87.0Rtg; 18TD; 11INT
Cutler 71Rtg; 19TD; 25INT
Sanchez 62.3Rtg; 12TD; 20INT

Posted by: MrMerkin | December 22, 2009 7:09 AM | Report abuse

Hey Dan -
First, I'm not the guys who comments on blogs or calls into local radio...never done it before in my life, actually. But this blog...and the overall tone of WP reporting on the Skins is so bent it's ridiculous.
Tony Kornheiser is ABSOLUTELY right that there's an agenda at WP to somehow always take the side opposite to the Skins...and often time reality - as is the case here. This AMAZES me because the Skins are your meal ticket!!! This is not to say you shouldn't be critical...we got destroyed, worst Skins game I've ever witnessed...but instead of final shredding that nice fella Jim Zorn (I wonder if you'll say he's getting a bad deal now?), you choose to write two pro Giants pieces that are insultingly nonfactual. The TRUTH is somewhere far away from your account...I know you would seperate yourself from the opinions of the Giant players, but you're the one looking to write this bias story and you're the one asking the questions (funny cuz aren't you also one of the ones who NEVER asks Jim Zorn a difficult question in his press conferences?). That said, the REALITY of last night goes something like...at kickoff, Skins fans had packed the place (as best you can do in that cavernous stadium) with about 25% being Giants fans...and then from there, Dan, did you happen to see the game? On a Monday night, having watched the worst half possibly in Redskins history, our fans left...leaving the fan numbers about EQUAL for both teams.
Real quick...your boy TK feels the same way...and this is why, even though I'm a lifelong WP reader, I'm starting to much prefer to get my Redskins news from profootballtalk or extremeskins. Peace!

Posted by: northofkingston | December 22, 2009 8:06 AM | Report abuse

1. TK had a difference of opinion with the Post? Whaaaaa?

2. Fed Ex is the only stadium I know where the biggest games of its home team regularly split fan attendance (Steelers, Giants, Eagles, Dallas)

3. Thank you, Redskins fans. You're willingness to finance this debacle of a franchise continues to amuse every year.

Posted by: StetSportsBlog | December 22, 2009 8:21 AM | Report abuse

As if the 15 drinks I had last night weren't enough to make me throw up, this article will definitely do the trick

Posted by: nford2 | December 22, 2009 8:28 AM | Report abuse

Real quick...your boy TK feels the same way...and this is why, even though I'm a lifelong WP reader, I'm starting to much prefer to get my Redskins news from profootballtalk or extremeskins. Peace!

Posted by: northofkingston | December 22, 2009 8:06 AM | Report abuse

well, if you want unbiased "news" then exremeskins.com should be the place since, you know, it's owned by the redskins. why dont you watch larry michaels show on comcast sportsnet for some real hard hitting insight.

if you want news, how about you stop reading blogs and read games stories from the post, times, examiner, ap, cnn, espn.

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | December 22, 2009 8:43 AM | Report abuse

I think some of you miss the point of blogs like this one. Dan offers a different angle than your typical post game write ups.

I would hardly say that he's critical of the fans, team, or players in this post. In fact, Dan specifically said that the amount of Giants fans in attendance wasn't absurd given the circumstances of both teams. Or in other words, exactly what you'd expect from two geographically close NFL teams - one in the playoff hunt and one completely eliminated, playing each other on a monday night late in december.

It does pain me to read about how the Giants players felt like they were playing in front of a home crowd, but everyone knows they weren't and no one can blame Skins fans in attendance for leaving that mess early. Jokers love to call other fans "fair weather" when it conveniences them because it makes them feel a little better about their own allegiances (kind of like the "my dad can beat up your dad" argument for adults). Seriously, calling one of the most dedicated fan bases in all of professional sports "fair weather" because they walk out in disgust at the sight their chronically under performing team laying another egg on national television is one of the most ridiculous statements I've ever heard. This sport is a form of entertainment. You wouldn't call a movie buff a "fair weather" buff if he walked out of a movie theater midway through a film after watching an awful acting performance.

Dan, question for you. Do you happen to know the Redskins record when they play at night since Snyder took over? A night game is essentially a guaranteed loss.

Posted by: MillBurray | December 22, 2009 9:20 AM | Report abuse

MrMerkin

Campbell has 14 interceptions not 11. But still he is better than Cutler and Sanchez--even though Sanchez is still a rookie and has a lot of upside.

Either way, Jacobs can kick rocks with is 50 yards rushing and 1 melee started. Bradshaw is the real running back of that team.

As far as the crowd, who cares how many Giants fans were there? If the Redskins had shown up to play and kicked the crap out of NY, then you would not have heard a peep out of their fans. When the score is 45-12, there could have been 20 Giants fans in FedEx and they would have sounded loud.

Posted by: goose33 | December 22, 2009 9:34 AM | Report abuse

"Tony Kornheiser is ABSOLUTELY right that there's an agenda at WP to somehow always take the side opposite to the Skins...and often time reality - as is the case here. This AMAZES me because the Skins are your meal ticket!!! "

-As opposed to the Redskins organization themselves, who are Tony Kornheisers meal ticket.

"This is not to say you shouldn't be critical...we got destroyed, worst Skins game I've ever witnessed...but instead of final shredding that nice fella Jim Zorn (I wonder if you'll say he's getting a bad deal now?), you choose to write two pro Giants pieces that are insultingly nonfactual."

-What the hell is your point again? You admit that Redskins fans left towards the end of the half. Should Dan should have written about how awful Jim Zorn is rather than how many Giants fans were in attendance by the end of the game? Is that somehow taking a side "not" opposite to the skins? How's the weather down at Redskins park this morning?

Posted by: jbanks979 | December 22, 2009 9:59 AM | Report abuse

the Redskins are an assembly of losers and so is everyone here who turns blame on the Post or anyone else. The game story speaks for itself - 45-12 with nothing worth reporting about on the Redskins side. You want a detailed recap of how good the Giants were instead? Read the NY Times. You idiots that finance Snyder by buying his tickets and drinking 15 beers at the game (that tells me all I need to know about nford2)are the PROBLEM...you think Snyder cares about you, the fan? You think he cares about the Post coverage? He's laughing all the way to the bank and at your, idiot expense. Grow up. Sober up. Quite whining. The Post will praise the Redskins when they're worth praising. Check out the archives from the playoff/superbowl years..plenty of praise heaped on the team - when the ownership and players deserved it.

Posted by: sunnyman1 | December 22, 2009 10:06 AM | Report abuse

Dan,

Whats the point of this article? Should the Skins fans stayed until the end or sang hail to the Redskins all game no matter the score or effort level? Should we not sell our tickets to the highest/only bidders? What's your point other than to call your readers bad fans? Can you blame us?

Should we be expecting another annoying post from you next week? Its going to be even worse. I'm sure you can't wait.

I cant decide which I hate more, this post or Mike Wise's ridiculous article this morning.

Posted by: BillyBeane | December 22, 2009 10:20 AM | Report abuse

@northofkingston:
you choose to write two pro Giants pieces that are insultingly nonfactual ... Skins fans had packed the place (as best you can do in that cavernous stadium) with about 25% being Giants fans...and then from there, Dan, did you happen to see the game? On a Monday night, having watched the worst half possibly in Redskins history, our fans left

Steinberg: "There were a decent number of Giants fans at FedEx Field on Monday night. From my vantage point, it was nothing absurd, certainly not when you consider that the Giants are still fighting for a playoff berth, and the Redskins are, you know, not. ... So when a playoff team ends up beating a non-playoff team by 33 points, in a stadium that seats 90,000, right before Christmas, two days after a snowstorm, on a chilly night, you would absolutely expect the visitors to have a dominant presence in the stands by the game's end."

Generally, you should read the blog posts before you comment.

Posted by: theamazingmouse | December 22, 2009 10:34 AM | Report abuse

"I cant decide which I hate more, this post or Mike Wise's ridiculous article this morning."

I can't decide which I hate more, whiny comments that serve no purpose other than to draw attention to oneself or ... actually, that's it.

Posted by: theamazingmouse | December 22, 2009 10:37 AM | Report abuse

Are we surprised!? The Skins in the last 10 years have always showed up small to these Giants. No matter how much we knew they were going to run the ball, or how many screens they were going to run, we could not stop them. Ask Tikki Barber who is going to the Hall of Fame based on his performance against the Skins alone, how grateful he is to these Skins. I suppose now Jacobs who could not missed an opportunity to show a few Skins, mainly Hall, by how much he and the Giants own us by throwing a few punches at us, and NOT getting flags on top of that.
And now their fans too, who knew full well their Giants were going to kill us, because after all, no other team in the NFC East seem to own us as much as these Giants lately.
2 of our worst losses this decade have come against the Giants. 35-0 in 2005, and last night.

Posted by: JeanJak | December 22, 2009 10:42 AM | Report abuse

More like Foreskins, amiright?

Posted by: cao091402 | December 22, 2009 11:08 AM | Report abuse

I was there. It was loud at times, but I held down my section (451) by drowning them out with boos. Jerk Giant fan wearing a NY Giants Santa cape was repeatedly forced to sit down in despair as he tried to promulgate the "let's go Giants" chant.

NOT fair weather.

Posted by: CByrd1 | December 22, 2009 11:21 AM | Report abuse

@theamazingmouse

northofkingston ridiculous post was probably referencing the next paragragh you decided to ignore in your own self-serving pointless post, which is what the comment section bascially is.

Steinberg: "That said, the "Let's Go Giants!" chants were loud. Really loud. Loud enough that the Giants' defenders on the field were gesturing with their hands in the air, asking the crowd to provide more noise, dancing around with joy. That's just weird."

Dan then writes a bunch of quotes from the Giants saying how they took over the stadium.

Dan kind of took a shot at the fans saying we should have been more of a presense in a meaningless game by an embarrassing team.

I didnt get his point in the post other than him wanting to take a shot at the fans.

Posted by: BillyBeane | December 22, 2009 11:27 AM | Report abuse

This post is impressive because it shows how many different login's Tony Kornheiser's intern can create in one morning. Congrats dude, you are pathetic.

Dan, good post.

Posted by: JDP_ | December 22, 2009 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Worst. Sports. Year. Ever.

Posted by: Kev29 | December 22, 2009 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Look, when the Redskins are bad, tickets will always be readily available for opposing fans. That is because Fed Ex Field is too big due to Snyder's greed. The Redskins don't show up against a mediocre Giants team that has no realistic chance of making the playoffs and people leave because they have to work the next morning. Why is that worth a story?

Posted by: poguesmahone | December 22, 2009 11:52 AM | Report abuse

It's amazing how little reading comprehension is valued by those who post in the comment section.

What Billy Beane thought was said "Dan then writes a bunch of quotes from the Giants saying how they took over the stadium. Dan kind of took a shot at the fans saying we should have been more of a presense in a meaningless game by an embarrassing team. "

What Dan actually said "So when a playoff team ends up beating a non-playoff team by 33 points, in a stadium that seats 90,000, right before Christmas, two days after a snowstorm, on a chilly night, you would absolutely expect the visitors to have a dominant presence in the stands by the game's end."

Before posting about "bias" or "Taking shots at skins fans", please reread the last sentence several times. Then, stop getting so defensive about the writeup of a 33 point loss.

Posted by: jbanks979 | December 22, 2009 11:56 AM | Report abuse

@northofkingston - You made a very good decision in the past when you decided not to comment on blogs. We're all disappointed that you changed your mind.

A lot of people have been asking what the point of this post was. Steinberg has spent most of this season chronicling the attitudes and reactions of the Redskins fanbase. This post does exactly that. This post shows that many Redskins fans are now reacting to the team's record by selling their tickets to opposing fans, and by leaving early if they do go to the game. And rather than putting too much of his own opinion into the post, Dan supports the point with quotes from Giants players.

I just really hope that the game on Sunday night is different.

Posted by: DCUMD | December 22, 2009 11:57 AM | Report abuse

"Dan kind of took a shot at the fans saying we should have been more of a presense in a meaningless game by an embarrassing team."

Uh, all he said was that after all the Skins fans left, the Giants fans were a lot easier to hear. Where did you read him dissing the fans? Seemed to me he was suggesting the exact opposite: That it was to be expected that any team's fans would leave at this point and the opposing team's fans would remain.

In any event, why are you still here commenting on this blog? Is it a snow day at the Redskins' front office?

Posted by: theamazingmouse | December 22, 2009 11:57 AM | Report abuse

FedEx Field opened two years before Snyder bought the team. Don't blame him for that ridiculous, huge crap-hole of a stadium. There's plenty enough to blame him for that he's actually responsible for.

Posted by: AtomicOvermind | December 22, 2009 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Came to this thread a bit late, but WHO CARES what Tony K thinks? Last I looked Dan Snyder SIGNS HIS PAYCHECK. Of course he will defend him. Korny has zero credibility in this discussion.

Posted by: bethesdaguy | December 22, 2009 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Everyone:

Just acknowledge the truth of this post.

And also realize that if the situations are reversed, and the 'Skins are coming off a Super Bowl and perennial playoff success, and the Giants are mired in a decades long morass of incompetence, that if this game were at Giants stadium the B&G presence would be double what the blue presence was at FedEx last night.

Giants fans have nothing to be proud of. They're a mediocre team that beat a bad team. Whoopty-do.

Posted by: ThisGuy | December 22, 2009 2:17 PM | Report abuse

2. Fed Ex is the only stadium I know where the biggest games of its home team regularly split fan attendance (Steelers, Giants, Eagles, Dallas).

Posted by: StetSportsBlog | December 22, 2009 8:21 AM | Report abuse

The number of rival fans at Fed Ex routinely gets blown way out of proportion. Even the Steelers game last year, by far the most rival fans ever descending upon Fed Ex, was overblown--and looked way worse than it really was because of the towels. If you have 20,000 fans waving towels in a stadium of 90,000--well it's going to look pretty bad. It's going to look like they outnumber the Redskins fans.

As for the moronic comment above about Dallas, Giants, Eagle regularly splitting the attendance at Fed Ex, one can only assume the above poster has never stepped foot in Fed Ex during an NFC East game. You will never see more than 1/5 of the fans in the stadium from any of those team. Not this year, not ever.

To me, it's pretty damn impressive that upwards of 60,000-70,000 purely Redskins fans are still attending games in crappy weather in a season in which we were out of contention many weeks ago. Speaks volumes for how loyal we Redskins fans are, and we should be applauded for it... not knocked simple because we have what was the biggest stadium in the NFL by far until the Cowboys new stadium opened this year--and having a 90,000+ seat stadium means plenty of fans from the opposing team are going to have access to tickets.

These stories are ridiculous, in my opinion.

Posted by: Barno1 | December 22, 2009 3:30 PM | Report abuse

The sound on my TV must have been bad. Had trouble hearing the "We want Dallas" and "Dallas Sucks" chants.

Posted by: jburnetti | December 22, 2009 8:16 PM | Report abuse

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