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William & Mary mascot finalists

With William & Mary's hot start to the season making them newly relevant in Atlantic 11 circles, it seems we should take a quick look at the school's five mascot finalists, revealed today: The Griffin, the King and Queen, the Phoenix, the Pug and the Wren.

Actually, heck with that, let's instead take a look at the non-finalists, via the Virginian-Pilot:

Among ideas submitted were nine types of birds, including the mythical phoenix. It's viewed as a symbol of the college's resilience through fire (three of them), famine (the financial kind) and military occupation (by Union troops during the Civil War)....

Among those submitted and apparently rejected are a Friesian horse, Bricky the Brick, Jack the Jester and a hybrid of alums Thomas Jefferson and James Monroe, wielding a quill pen.

What sort of hybrid, exactly? Jefferson's head and Monroe's tail? Left arm of TJ, right arm of JM? Couldn't you add some other Founding Father bits into the mix? Among the actual finalists, though, I'm partial to the official description of the king and queen:

This concept is King William III and Queen Mary II serving as joint mascots representing the historic namesakes of the College. Their royal king and queen costumes could make use of the W&M colors of green, gold and silver. The costumes could reflect the period in which these monarchs lived, or their dress could be more modernized.

I'd vote for the Jersey Shore versions, please.

By Dan Steinberg  |  December 8, 2009; 4:55 PM ET
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Free Bricky the Brick!

Posted by: JJones-CapitalWeatherGang | December 8, 2009 5:10 PM | Report abuse

More like FREE EBIRT!

Posted by: mbhowa | December 8, 2009 5:17 PM | Report abuse

The pug is ugly, and has almost nothing to do with WM. It also looks a little like a ram. VCU and Rhode Island, anyone?

The Queen? Someone walking around in a dress with a crown at basketball games? Come on. Lame.

And the Griffin and the Phoenix? The last thing we need to do is further the WM stereotype by having creature from mythology or Pokemon or whatever wandering the sidelines.

Since the Wren is an actual animal, I'm voting for it. Just please make it look menacing.

Posted by: crsiggy | December 8, 2009 5:31 PM | Report abuse

I'm still partial to the WASP. It suits our student body well.

Posted by: CrimsonTribe | December 8, 2009 6:55 PM | Report abuse

Agreed on the Jersey Shore versions.

Also of note a good number of my friends are students at William and Mary and from what I here there is a significant student write in movement for the William and Mary Wooly Mammoths

WM, for the mascot survey, please, consider the following: Woolly Mammoth (write in). A. It's old, like 1693. 2. Back from extinction is a rise from ashes (like Wren), but cool (Ice Age). C. Originality. Green fur, gold tusks. 4. Mammoths are noble, like royal charter. E. The whole WM thing.

Posted by: NovaHoosier | December 8, 2009 8:11 PM | Report abuse


The Tribe are having a great Fall - NCAA playoffs for football and the Men's BBall team is surprising a few people. But not in the Atlantic 11, instead they compete in the Colonial Athletic Association.

My vote goes to the Wren for team mascot.

Thanks for picking up on this story.

Posted by: lane4imaging | December 8, 2009 8:21 PM | Report abuse

@lane4imaging The Atlantic 11 is a local poll run by the Bog

I am a W&M alum (sort of). The pug is a travesty. The Griffen doesn't make sense. The others are ok -- the Phoenix has had support for decades. The Wren isa good allusion to the oldest building on campus. The king and queen will resonate the most with individuals not familiar with the college.

Posted by: lordscarlet1 | December 8, 2009 9:27 PM | Report abuse

Oh, also, the drawings are terrible.

Posted by: lordscarlet1 | December 8, 2009 9:32 PM | Report abuse

Wow, so William & Mary are playing basketball now, eh? That's adorable.

Yeah, I definitely think these guys should have a mascot. Any of these ridiculous suggestions should do.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 9, 2009 1:23 AM | Report abuse

Don't go with the Phoenix. Elon College (now University) changed their name to the Phoenix about 10 years ago (from the Fighting Christians!) which makes sense for Elon since the school burned down in the early 1900s.

Posted by: Loggie1 | December 9, 2009 7:06 AM | Report abuse

Phoenix is the "coolest" option imo, but the mascot picture looks terrible.

Posted by: REXskins | December 9, 2009 8:41 AM | Report abuse

Go Wrens! ... and then they can keep the two feathers on the W&M logo ... and stick it in the eye of the NCAA.

Posted by: gotribe | December 9, 2009 9:12 AM | Report abuse

@Loggie1 W&M has had three major fires I believe :)

@NateinthePDX I'll bite. The Tribe has had a basketball team for 104 years. You do realize you don't have to be in the tournament every year to have sports programs, right?

Posted by: lordscarlet1 | December 9, 2009 11:31 AM | Report abuse

From what I've been told by W&M alum, the Wren, Griffin, and Phoenix are all submitted so that the school could continue to use the feathers in their logo. Also, for some reason the school would use this new mascot name, but the athletic teams would not.

Posted by: Josh86 | December 9, 2009 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Does no one get that we're not changing our nickname? We're still going to be the Tribe! We're trying to find a mascot, NOT a new nickname. All this talk of the "William & Mary Phoenix" (incl. the comparison to Elon), the "William & Mary Griffins" etc. is utterly irrelevant.

No one seems to get the difference between "nickname" and "mascot." The mascot is strictly a figure to run around at football and basketball games-- it's not going to get our feathers back (the logo will still say Tribe).

Posted by: ajgwm10 | December 10, 2009 12:22 AM | Report abuse

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