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Peter Vecsey unloads on Wise

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UPDATE: Wise responds.

Because the Saga of Gilbert's Gunz hasn't been weird enough, we now have New York-based columnists using the incident as pretense to bring up years-old media beefs with Washington-based columnists, served with a side of nastiness.

"As usual, Washington Post columnist Mike Wise got swept away by his zeal to report something momentous as yet unrevealed by the New York Post," Peter Vecsey wrote on Tuesday, before launching into a recap of how the Latrell Sprewell choking incident was covered in New York. Huge demand from New York readers for stories about Mike Wise, apparently. And then, back to Gil, with ferocity:

About a week following this last exposé, Wise took out the shovel and really dug deep. He unearthed a source that claimed Crittenton took out his pistol and chambered a round after Arenas placed three guns, not four, in front of his locker and told him to choose one.

Everyone halfway in the know is convinced the source was Arenas, whom Wise tenderly psychoanalyzes regularly. Eyewitness Wizards convinced the government the contention was contrived. Crittenton's advocates are convinced it was planted by either Arenas or one of his crew to make Javaris look bad and Gilbert look better.

"How could Javaris do what he's accused of doing?" said a source with intimate awareness of what transpired. "He was in practice shorts and you know they have no pockets. What's more, he was holding his iPod. Everyone interviewed agreed he was holding the iPod. How is he going to chamber it? You've got to have a third hand."

Look, I'll let Wise fight his own battles, and I'm not speaking for my employer here, just for myself, but suffice it to say that Peter Vecsey of all people claiming the truth has been battered by the media makes me laugh the long, weary laugh of the 21st century Internet reader. Talk about having no shame. Lest we forget, his original report said, among other things:

* "NBA all-star Gilbert Arenas and his Washington Wizards teammate Javaris Crittenton drew guns on each other in the team's locker room during a Christmas Eve dispute over a gambling debt."

"The pistol-packing point guards had heaters at the ready."

* "It was the three- time all-star Arenas, 27, who went for his gun first."

* "The feds have been investigating gambling within the NBA since disgraced ex-referee Tim Donaghy admitted betting on games and feeding information to bookies. It was not clear whether the gambling debt that sparked the Arenas-Crittenton duel had anything to do with league games."

So he got the date of the confrontation wrong, the fact that they drew weapons on each other wrong, the entire tenor of the episode wrong, while bringing up a complete red herring about gambling on league games. He, more than anyone else, was responsible for this entire incident being framed as a Wild West shootout rather than the ridiculous bit of immaturity that it was. And now he finds his great love for the truth has been sullied by Mike Wise. Swell.

By Dan Steinberg  |  January 26, 2010; 9:52 AM ET
Categories:  Media , Wizards  
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Peter Vecsey is a total DBAG!

Posted by: DMcdonkerton | January 26, 2010 10:09 AM | Report abuse

Dan Steinberg. The most sensible news man on all the Internets.

Posted by: supuradam | January 26, 2010 10:10 AM | Report abuse

Peter Vescey is still angry at the world because his brother is a better (actually respected) writer than he is and, presumably, that his mommy and daddy didn't wuv him enuf.

Posted by: TheFunBunch | January 26, 2010 10:24 AM | Report abuse

Regardless of what Vecsey said, Wise had this coming. The story he wrote where he openly wondered whether the situation had to do with Gil being abandonded by his mother was particularly off-base. And I thought Wise was supposed to be above using un-named sources. This whole series of columns has left me disapointed in a writer who I used to enjoy very much.

Posted by: VTUnited | January 26, 2010 10:31 AM | Report abuse

Someone who gets paid to write really use the phrase "heaters at the ready"?

"All the News that's Fit to Print" indeed.

Posted by: kolbkl | January 26, 2010 10:33 AM | Report abuse

Steinberg: ripping Vecsey for his screw ups is fair enough. BUT if Wise used Arenas as a source but presented the quotes as if they came from a third pary source, that seems to me to be as unethical as hell. If the Washington Post allows that, it is even sleazier than I thought.

Posted by: poguesmahone | January 26, 2010 10:38 AM | Report abuse

Mike Wise still sucks.

Posted by: tsbrul1 | January 26, 2010 10:40 AM | Report abuse

Instead of attacking Vecsey, why not get all the facts and try to defend Wise? The fact that Vecsey is an unethical journalist does not make Wise any more ethical.

Posted by: HeShootsHeScores | January 26, 2010 10:53 AM | Report abuse

@HeShootsHeScores: Dan specifically says he'll let Wise fight his own battles and I agree that he has no obligation to defend his fellow WaPo writer, Wise.

His point was this: One member of the media accuses another member of the media of blowing a story out of proportion by inaccurately or unethically publishing "facts" when, in fact, the accuser is just as guilty, if not MORE guilty than the accused. Classic case of the pot calling the kettle black.

Posted by: MillBurray | January 26, 2010 11:04 AM | Report abuse

They both suck!

Posted by: madflava | January 26, 2010 11:14 AM | Report abuse

I never really cared for Mike Wise or his snarky little attitude. Kornheiser is annoying too but PTI still kicks ass.

Posted by: PropJoe | January 26, 2010 11:15 AM | Report abuse

FYI kolbkl that the NY Time's motto, not the NY Post. I'm pretty sure the NY Post's motto is "What Will Get Others To Talk About Us"

Posted by: EricS2 | January 26, 2010 11:16 AM | Report abuse

My bad. How about "NY stinks in General"?

Posted by: kolbkl | January 26, 2010 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Agree Vecsey is a self righteous dbag, but if there is any truth to the accusation that Wise's "source" was Arenas or someone on his "side" then that is unethical journalism as well. What say you Mike Wise? Predict we are going to get the must protect sources at all costs defense!

Posted by: rphilli721 | January 26, 2010 11:20 AM | Report abuse

vecsey needs to read crittenden's "proffer of facts" in this case. it clearly states that he pulled his gun out of his backpack, not his shorts (btw, plexico had his gun in his sweat pants w/ no pockets). also, ipod's arent the size of bricks. i'm pretty sure an NBA player who can palm a basketball can hold an ipod and chamber a round/pull back the hammer.

tired of these dbag writers yelling at each other. sound like petulant little children.

btw, crittenden claims he feared for his life but brought an unloaded gun for protection? really. was he going to pistol whip gil? seems to me if you feared for your life you would load your weapon.

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | January 26, 2010 11:36 AM | Report abuse

I know nothing about anything but I'm going to FREAK OUT and insult everyone!!! Everyone sucks at everything!!! -- Oh, I'm sorry, I thought that's what we were doing today.

Posted by: Urnesto | January 26, 2010 12:42 PM | Report abuse


Posted by: DocHolliday1906 | January 26, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

That's OK, because it allows Wise to go on the radio with his "You better call the show, [more famous Person X] or I will GO OFF on you in a desperate plea for attention" routine.

The sooner 106.7 pulls the plug on that excruciating show, the better.

Posted by: bermanator34 | January 26, 2010 1:02 PM | Report abuse

"The sooner 106.7 pulls the plug on that excruciating show, the better.

Posted by: bermanator34"

Here, here.

Posted by: tsbrul1 | January 26, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Let Peter Vecsey come to DC and let Mike Wise pull a gun on him.....


Posted by: ENJOYA | January 26, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse

I turned on the Wise show today and they were talking about abortion. Click!

Posted by: Kev29 | January 26, 2010 2:45 PM | Report abuse

ive been a loyal listener of 106.7 for years, and Wise single handedly drove me away. the fake pollyanna bit wears thin quick. either you are above it all, or you arent. in the same breath you can't say you aren't going to trash athletes for personal transgressions, and then make a hack tiger woods joke. i get why Bill Rohland didn't want his name on the show.

Posted by: VTUnited | January 26, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Mike wise is a great Columnist, but the truth is he cannot do squat when he is placed in front of a microphone please cancel the show and go back to focus on writing columns.

Posted by: Dlewis10 | January 26, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

I think this clears up the Vecsey/Kornheiser man love rumors.

What Mr. Tony forgets is that most people do not think it's ok to crap into other people's shoes over and over.

Your Wise act is getting tiresome Tony.

Posted by: tslats | January 26, 2010 8:35 PM | Report abuse

We all know Vescey is a tard no question. But Wise is a joke too, he has his head so far up his a@S it's a joke. Both of htese morons should go. Maybe they should draw guns on each other and may the best man win.

Posted by: efdelaney | January 26, 2010 9:55 PM | Report abuse

Vecsey has had this story right from the beginning. All of the 'errors' that Steinberg cites are immaterial to the larger question that the original story -- that Arenas brought the guns to the VZ Center to keep them away from his kids -- was 100% BS.

A NY sportswriter scooped DC guys in their own neighborhood. No wonder you guys are teed off at him.

Posted by: corvettekid | January 27, 2010 12:26 AM | Report abuse

Corvette Kid is 100% right - Post got scooped and what's worse is they knew about the story and covered it up until the NY Post broke it.

Dan Steinberg's self-righteous criticism of Vecsey is transparent, distracting, and irrelevant.

The Washington Post broke Watergate and this shameful cowardice by the Washington Post and it's writers shows how far they've fallen as an institution of public trust.

All The News Thats Fit To Cover Up.

Posted by: nativedc | January 27, 2010 8:05 AM | Report abuse

With Baghdad Bob out of business, there isn't a less credible source on the planet than Peter Vecsey.

Posted by: KPinSEA | January 27, 2010 9:53 AM | Report abuse

Just because some entity pays you to write/report does NOT make you a Journalist.

Neither Wise nor Vecsey are true Journalists.

They compromise the base tenet: Accurate Reporting

Neither has demonstrated professional ethics.

Vecsey, in particular, is a boorish, angry, spiteful human being who wants his to be the only voice in the room. Wise is just a dope who's fortunate to be in the Business. If not for luck, he'd be an Al Bundy getting you a size 10 at Foot Locker.

Sad how the Profession has stooped so low

Posted by: kahlua87 | January 27, 2010 10:11 AM | Report abuse

Vescey may very well be a jerk, but it doesn't change the fact that a NY writer scooped Post writers on this whole story. Wise comes off as a bit of a dope (as usual). He completely missed this story then tried after the fact to get in on the action...pathetic.

Posted by: dbunkr | January 27, 2010 11:17 AM | Report abuse

The fact remains that the DC media either sat on or tried to cover up the Arenas incident from the beginning.

The NY Post first broke this story and the NY Post was in the forefront when it came to breaking news further down the line.

Mike Wise quoted Arenas but attributed the quotes to unnamed sources. And Michael Lee is a STONE COLD HACK!

THE NEW YORK SPORTS MEDIA SMASHED THE HOMERS @ the washington post however you choose to look at it!

Posted by: whatyoutalkinboutman | January 27, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

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