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Local Poll Week XIII: Richmond's rejection

A few observations:

* Richmond continues to be an Atlantic 11 enigma. Second-best national ranking of the local teams, second-best national RPI, second-best winning percentage in the area, and yet the Spiders seem perpetually stuck at No. 4. I'd spend more time trying to figure this out, excpet as previously noted, I'm on vacation in Miami and am supposed to be doing things other than analyzing the voting patterns of Markus Videnieks and the Thighmaster.

* As our teams do the dance of the dull, Maryland re-claimed second place from Virginia Tech, while Virginia and William & Mary and VCU continued to do jigs amid the soft undersection of this poll. Everyone else stayed the same.

* Georgetown fell to 10th in the AP and 13th in the coaches' poll. Richmond is 23rd/24th. Virginia Tech is 27th/26th, and Maryland is 28th/28th. This is likely the area's best showing in the polls in several years. Also, no region in the country is as strong in the 23rd-28th portion of the national polls. No contest there.

* Georgetown slipped to 12th in RPI, and will now be an acceptable deep upset pick in March. Richmond remained at 27th. Maryland kept climbing and is now up to 37th, while Old Dominion fell hard from 33rd to 41st. Virginia Tech moved up to 44th, William & Mary moved up to 48th, VCU moved up to 62nd. Virginia dropped out of the top 100 and maybe shouldn't be counted on for an NCAA tourney run at this point.

* Current NCAA tourney projection: still six teams (Georgetown, Maryland, Virginia Tech, Richmond, Morgan State, CAA champion, unless Northeastern wins it.) I'm going to say two Sweet 16 teams.

Here are the totals. We have team, record (through Sunday's games), points and first-place votes. Last week's standings are found below.

1. Georgetown (18-7) 601 (45)
--Next: Tuesday at Louisville, Saturday vs. Notre Dame.
--Considering the rest of last week's events at Verizon Center, at least Georgetown didn't trade Greg Monroe after the Syracuse game. (Markus Videnieks)

2. Maryland (19-7) 554 (15)
--Next: Wednesday vs. Clemson, Saturday at No. 3 Virginia Tech.
--"Hey Cliff, it's Gary. I need you to do me a huge favor. You've got to do this for me Cliff. Huge. Quickly. Bye." (Chris LoBianco)

3. Virginia Tech (21-5) 487 (2)
--Next: Wednesday at Boston College, Saturday vs. No. 2 Maryland.
--Wait, you mean having the 152nd-hardest schedule in the country doesn't adequately prepare you to face Duke? (Gavin Weiss)

4. Richmond (22-6) 462 (1)
--Next: Sunday at Xavier.
--Only team in the area to have played presidents (George Washington), kings and queens (William & Mary) and saints (St. Bonaventure). The Spiders are a fourth-grade social studies teacher's dream. (Jamie Jones)

5. Old Dominion (21-8) 368
--Next: Tuesday at Georgia State, Saturday vs. No. 7 VCU.
--How did the Monarchs end up playing a February game in Northern Iowa? Did a cornfield tell them to do it? Was Kevin Costner their bus driver? (John Albers)

6. William & Mary (19-8) 259
--Next: Wednesday vs. Towson, Saturday at UNC Wilmington.
--Will have a nationwide contest to determine the school's new mascot after being sued by A Tribe Called Quest. (Chris Bocquet)

7. VCU (19-7) 229
--Next: Wednesday vs. James Madison, Saturday at No. 5 Old Dominion.
--Rams were able to hold Akron's Humpty Hitchens to nine points Saturday because they know his tendencies: He likes to rhyme, he likes his beats funky, he's spunky, he likes his oatmeal lumpy. (Markus Videnieks)

8. Virginia (14-11) 182
--Next: Tuesday at Miami, Sunday vs. Duke.
--If the Cavaliers were an asteroid, we'd be about two days away from seeing all of humanity wiped out in the impact. (Jamie Paquette)

9. George Mason (16-12) 126
--Next: Wednesday at Delaware, Saturday vs. Northeastern.
--Patriots played College of Charleston closer than UNC, which used to mean something. (Scott Allen)

10. Morgan State (20-9) 108
--Next: Monday at Md.-Eastern Shore, Saturday vs. Norfolk State.
--Lost the "I Cheated At Cal Reunion Bowl" to Murray State on Saturday. (Devin Perry)

11. George Washington (14-11) 57
--Next: Wednesday vs. La Salle, Saturday vs. Charlotte.
--Karl Hobbs now competing with Karl Marx and Karl Rove as "Most Reviled Karl in Foggy Bottom." (Gavin Weiss)

Also receiving votes: Radford 17, Mount St. Mary's 11, James Madison 5, UMBC 3, American 2, Navy 1, Norfolk State 1.

Last week's rankings
1. Georgetown
2. Virginia Tech
3. Maryland
4. Richmond
5. Old Dominion
6. Virginia
7. William & Mary
8. VCU
9. George Mason
10. Morgan State
11. George Washington

By Dan Steinberg  |  February 22, 2010; 6:20 PM ET
Categories:  Atlantic 11 , College Basketball  
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Comments

I know they have more quality wins than MD, but what is the fascination across the universe with Georgetown this year? Their losses are just awful. South Florida, Old Dominion, Rutgers? Maryland doesn't have ANY losses like that. Closest you could point to would be William and Mary and even that would be debatable.

I can MAYBE see Gtown possibly being ranked 1 spot higher than MD in this local poll, due to their pair of big wins over top 10 teams. But for them to STILL be ranked 11th in the nation--despite losing 2 straight and only winning 3 games out of their last 7--while Maryland is 9-3 in the ACC and blowing most of their competition out and yet they STILL aren't even ranked nationally?

Really hard to comprehend.

Posted by: Barno1 | February 22, 2010 7:06 PM | Report abuse

Maryland has a good record in the ACC, but the conference is down this year, and they've lost to the other teams at the top of the league (Duke, Wake, VaTech). Have the Terps beaten a ranked team yet this season? Georgetown has beaten five teams in the top 25 - Duke, Villanova, Pitt, Butler, and Temple. The Hoyas' strength of schedule is #1 in the nation, even with a couple of bad losses.

Also, calling ODU a worse loss than William and Mary is strange given that they're in the same conference and ODU has beaten W&M twice and is ahead of them in the standings.

Posted by: AnneG1 | February 22, 2010 8:27 PM | Report abuse

Dan,

Last night 8.2 Million watched USA vs. Canada Hockey on MSNBC. That is the third highest rated program in their history. It will almost certainly be the highest rated cable program for the week as the NBA All Star Game was the highest rated last week at 6.8 Million (close to 1.5 million fewer viewers). It also explains why the Olympic numbers were down somewhat last night.
Will this be the first time a hockey game was the #1 cable rated program for the week?

Posted by: croftonpost | February 22, 2010 10:08 PM | Report abuse

I know they have more quality wins than MD, but what is the fascination across the universe with Georgetown this year? Their losses are just awful. South Florida, Old Dominion, Rutgers? Maryland doesn't have ANY losses like that. Closest you could point to would be William and Mary and even that would be debatable.

Posted by: Barno1 | February 22, 2010 7:06 PM | Report abuse

If South Florida is a bad loss for Georgetown, then Cincinnati is a bad loss for Maryland since USF and UC are basically the same team in the Big East.

Posted by: Kev29 | February 23, 2010 12:10 AM | Report abuse

Maryland has a good record in the ACC, but the conference is down this year, and they've lost to the other teams at the top of the league (Duke, Wake, VaTech).
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Maryland hasn't played VaTech yet.

That is all...carry on....

Posted by: fushezzi | February 23, 2010 9:20 AM | Report abuse

If the Terps had beaten the gimme teams early season that they should have then they'd be ranked and there would be legit discussion as to whether they're better than GTown.

That said, if the teams played today it could go either way. I'm just glad that Maryland's playing so well right now.

Posted by: M__N | February 23, 2010 10:31 AM | Report abuse

well Gavin Weiss clearly didnt watch the vt vs duke game, who is he and why is he commenting on it. tech played them as well as anyone has in cameron all year. if you are going to try to include "cute" comments, they could at least make sense

Posted by: follybeach | February 23, 2010 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Are you defending the Hokies for their 12 point loss in Cameron? Is that really what the vtech hoops program wants to hang its hat on?

Might be drinking to many southpaws in the Charleston sun follybeach

Posted by: jpfterps | February 23, 2010 12:14 PM | Report abuse

also, Barno, your argument about the hoyas vs the terps doesnt have much legs. I like UMD chances if they play gtown, but i think the rankings are pretty fair. Let's have the terps beat a top 25 team then we can rehash this topic

Posted by: jpfterps | February 23, 2010 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Markus V. is still the king of all pith. Who is this Thigh Master fellow that Steinz is referring to?

Posted by: nordicus | February 23, 2010 12:38 PM | Report abuse

Barno you clearly don't watch college basketball so please stop commenting on it.

According to Real Time RPI G-town has 3 wins against top 10 RPI teams where as MD has none against the top 30 and only 3 in top 50. Case closed.

Not saying MD isn't good or couldn't beat them but ignoring quality wins and questioning quality losses (ODU is top 50 RPI and ahead of W&M) means you should take your Terp colored glasses off.

Posted by: paranoya | February 23, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

My God Barno, even by the standards of internet trolls you are an incredible imbecile.

There's no "fascination" with Georgetown. They have some very good wins and some bad losses - though no losses as bad as Maryland's home loss to W&M, which has been proven to be pretty weak in the CAA this year. They are talented enough to go deep into the tourney, and inconsistent enough to lose early as well. In any case, their resume is much, much, much better than Maryland's at this point, and if you don't see that, then you're simply dim.

That said, Maryland is playing much better than earlier in the season and credit definitely goes to Gary and Greivis. Why not enjoy that instead of letting your jealousy of the Georgetown program shine through?

Posted by: thediesel | February 23, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

jpfterps see you saturday, you didnt watch the game either. it was 5 point difference with 2 to play. how did maryland do in cameron...if i recall lost by over 20 in a game that was never close... and i like the terps just not people that see a final score and comment

Posted by: follybeach | February 23, 2010 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Maryland has a good record in the ACC, but the conference is down this year, and they've lost to the other teams at the top of the league (Duke, Wake, VaTech). Have the Terps beaten a ranked team yet this season?

Posted by: AnneG1 | February 22, 2010 8:27 PM | Report abuse

1) We haven't played Vtech.
2) MD beat a ranked FSU team twice (though they were technically only ranked the first time we played them. We also beat Gtech this weekend, who were 20th in the nation a week earlier.
3) Rutgers has an RPI of 122, that loss is simply embarrassing for Gtown and Maryland doesn't have anything remotely resembling that on their resume.

This is coming from someone who roots for Gtown

Posted by: Barno1 | February 23, 2010 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Based on the people I know who work at Foggy Bottom and aren't undercover CIA, Karl Marx is in their minds by far the clubhouse leader of the Karls.

Posted by: vicguru | February 23, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Barno you clearly don't watch college basketball so please stop commenting on it.

Posted by: paranoya | February 23, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Hmmm, for someone that clearly doesn't watch college ball, you could've fooled me. This season I have watched every minute of every Gtown game as well as every MD game (and attended every home game). Not knocking if you if you haven't, but can you say the same?

As far as "ignoring quality wins", apparently you "ignored" my statement that Gtown "has more quality wins than MD."

As far as this statement: "According to Real Time RPI G-town has 3 wins against top 10 RPI teams where as MD has none against the top 30 and only 3 in top 50. Case closed."

Well, not exactly case closed. The positives on your resume are only half the battle. The negatives are the other half. And Gtown's negatives are far worse than MD's--and that's not debatable.

Gtown Losses with RPI in parenthesis:
Old Dominion (41)
Marquette (59)
Villanova (8)
Syracuse twice (6)
South Fl (68)
Rutgers (122)
RPI sum of losses of 304

MD's Losses with RPI in parenthesis:
Cincy (56)
Wisconsin (19)
Villanova (8)
Clemson (35)
Duke (2)
Wake (21)
W&M (48)
RPI sum of losses of 189.

MD's 189 vs Gtown's 304. Hmmm...

So MD's worst loss is against a team who is currently 56 in the RPI, while Gtown's worst loss was against a team currently 122 in the RPI. Furthermore, the average RPI of the teams MD has lost to is 27, compared to Gtown's 43. So you can talk all you want about SOS and quality wins, those are obviously the positives and Gtown's positives are clearly better than MD's.

But you have to also EQUALLY look at the negatives too, and Gtown's negatives are far worse than MD's.

So I stand by my point that it's amazing given that these two teams have the same records, but Gtown is ranked 11th nationally while Md is not ranked at all.

Posted by: Barno1 | February 23, 2010 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Forgot to add second loss to Syracuse. So make that:

Gtown RPI sum of their 7 losses: 310
MD RPI sum of their 7 losses: 189

Posted by: Barno1 | February 23, 2010 2:40 PM | Report abuse

1) We haven't played Vtech.
2) MD beat a ranked FSU team twice (though they were technically only ranked the first time we played them. We also beat Gtech this weekend, who were 20th in the nation a week earlier.
3) Rutgers has an RPI of 122, that loss is simply embarrassing for Gtown and Maryland doesn't have anything remotely resembling that on their resume.

This is coming from someone who roots for Gtown

Posted by: Barno1 | February 23, 2010 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Barno, this is too much. Pure and simple comedy gold.

You are touting the Terps' win over Ga Tech as ... what exactly? Something like a win over an actul ranked team because they were ranked the week prior to the Maryland game?

That is called scrambling, my dunderheaded friend.

Maryland is taking advantage of a down year in the ACC - but they have not beaten a ranked team. They have ZERO high quality wins, whereas Gtown has FIVE wins over teams in this week's AP Top 25.

The Rutgers loss was bad, admittedly. But as much as your Terps fan heart would like it to entirely erase an entire season's worth of results, it does not.

Maryland's resume is so far inferior to Georgetown's at this point. Only a fool or an ignoramus (or both) would not admit to that.

Posted by: thediesel | February 23, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

no losses as bad as Maryland's home loss to W&M, which has been proven to be pretty weak in the CAA this year. They are talented enough to go deep into the tourney, and inconsistent enough to lose early as well. In any case, their resume is much, much, much better than Maryland's at this point, and if you don't see that, then you're simply dim.

That said, Maryland is playing much better than earlier in the season and credit definitely goes to Gary and Greivis. Why not enjoy that instead of letting your jealousy of the Georgetown program shine through?

Posted by: thediesel | February 23, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

thediesel, I know this is very, very difficult for you to comprehend. But I root for Gtown, and am not knocking them. I have no jealousy of a team that I grew up loving. I am simply pointing out the facts.

Speaking of the facts, your statement that Gtown has no losses as bad as Maryland's loss to W&M is laugable. Rutgers is a absolute joke of a team. Besides the fact that their RPI is literally 74 spots WORSE than W&M, besides the fact that they are 13-13, consider this pitiful statistic: Rutgers has lost 9 consecutive games by double digits. That is downright pathetic.

Please, for the love of god TheDiesel, stop embarrassing yourself.

Posted by: Barno1 | February 23, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Duke was winning by an average of nearly 28 points a game at home, with their closest win being a 14-point affair against Florida State. The scorebook says this game was two points closer, but it was closer than that.

Posted by: follybeach | February 23, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Maryland is taking advantage of a down year in the ACC - but they have not beaten a ranked team.

Posted by: thediesel | February 23, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

They have indeed beaten a ranked team, as I pointed out earlier. FSU was ranked when we played them the first time.

Please. Stop. Commenting.

Posted by: Barno1 | February 23, 2010 3:14 PM | Report abuse

My bad on VaTech, I was scanning the schedule to jog my memory and obviously wasn't paying close enough attention.

The Rutgers loss was horrible, for many reasons. No argument from me on that. But one bad loss does not kick a team out of the top 25 or negate multiple quality wins. ODU and USF were disappointing, but not "bad" losses like Rutgers - and, as pointed out in other comments, W&M and Cincy are comparable losses by the Terps.

If we're counting "ranked at the time" wins then we must give Georgetown credit for Washington and UConn as well, both of whom were ranked when the Hoyas beat them.

I'm not arguing that Maryland isn't a decent team this year, but the fact remains that they simply haven't played or beaten enough high quality teams to be ranked right now. Does that mean they won't be ranked at the end of the season, or that they won't win a few games in March? Of course not.

Posted by: AnneG1 | February 23, 2010 6:48 PM | Report abuse

Watch out guys. If you get on Barno's bad side, he'll call you a stalker.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | February 23, 2010 9:09 PM | Report abuse

Poopy...what you doin over here?

Blog-hopper

Posted by: fushezzi | February 24, 2010 7:40 AM | Report abuse

Barno, MD isn't ranked because they have beaten absolutely no one and the ACC is a Crap-fest this year. That's the only reason. It's the same reason VT isn't ranked despite our 21. It's really not that hard to understand, and you are (shocker) arguing for the sake of arguing.

Posted by: VTDuffman | February 24, 2010 8:35 AM | Report abuse

Again, more love for Uncle Fester Greenberg and his cupcake schedule. WHY???? They beat a Wake team who lost to NC State badly the week before. Big deal. They just aren't that good!

Posted by: Randy_Hawkins | February 24, 2010 11:05 AM | Report abuse

All this discussion makes me laugh. Georgetown has had one heck of a year with a brutal loss to Rutgers, who they likely overlooked. Everyone has a bad game or two. They are clearly the best team in the area for a host of reasons.

Meanwhile, the Tech and the Terps fans are doing what they normally do this time of year - hyping up their conference, but minimizing the fact they they play a cupcake schedule year in and year out. Trust me, Gary didnt schedule W&M because he thought they were a tough opponent - they were horrible last year (they finished 10th in the CAA). Luckily for you, the NCAA is thin this year, so you'll get to slide in and we won't have to hear any whining about how you got hosed again.

As Dan points out, Richmond has been getting it done and they are getting zero respect from you homers. I'm not a UR fan, but its time to quit arguing over who is less mediocre and give the Spiders their due.

Posted by: EShine | February 24, 2010 11:37 AM | Report abuse

"Meanwhile, the Tech and the Terps fans are doing what they normally do this time of year - hyping up their conference, but minimizing the fact they they play a cupcake schedule year in and year out."

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Hyping up their conference? What thread are you reading? Everyone and their mother acknowledges that the ACC sucks this year. I personally called it a "Crap-Fest."

Posted by: VTDuffman | February 24, 2010 2:04 PM | Report abuse

All this discussion makes me laugh. Georgetown has had one heck of a year with a brutal loss to Rutgers, who they likely overlooked. Everyone has a bad game or two. They are clearly the best team in the area for a host of reasons.

Meanwhile, the Tech and the Terps fans are doing what they normally do this time of year - hyping up their conference, but minimizing the fact they they play a cupcake schedule year in and year out. Trust me, Gary didnt schedule W&M because he thought they were a tough opponent - they were horrible last year (they finished 10th in the CAA).

Posted by: EShine | February 24, 2010 11:37 AM | Report abuse

"cupcake schedule year in and year out"

I've said this repeatedly over the years on these blogs, but if you don't know what you're talking about people...you shouldn't feel compelled to post a comment.

Clearly Eshine has not been following Gtown and Maryland for that long. Historically, Gtown plays one of the weakest non conference schedules of any major conference school in the nation, year in year out. This is not debatable...google it. Meanwhile, historically, MD under Gary Williams plays among the toughest schedules, year after year. In fact, I don't recall a season in which MD didn't have a strength of schedule outside the top 25 (it's usually closer to the top 10).

Posted by: Barno1 | February 24, 2010 2:29 PM | Report abuse

"In fact, I don't recall a season in which MD didn't have a strength of schedule outside the top 25"

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What ranking system are you using to determine this? According to Sagarin, UMD's SOS (total, I can't find OOC anywhere) over the last 5 years has been:

05-06: 32th
06-07: 39th
07-08: 59th
08-09: 28th
09-10: 46th

So, by my math, that's not a single top 25, let alone a top 10, and an average SOS of about 41st.

I'd love to take a look at the numbers you're using, thanks in advance.

Posted by: VTDuffman | February 24, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

VTDuffman, good pull for once. I am going off memory but can you please go back even further than 5 years and show the last 20 years or so, if possible. And please include Gtown too.

This year MD is currently 30th in strength of schedule, according to Jerry Palm's rankings, which the Washington Post relies on. After these next 3 games, against Clemson, Duke, and Vtech, MD be firmly in the top 25 of SOS. No fair observer can honestly say MD has had a "cupcake" schedule, not this year and not any year.

So far this year, MD's out of conference opponents have included Wisconsin, Cincinnati, Villanova, Indiana, and W&M. Now, Indiana is nothing to write home about, but you can't choose who you play in the Big Ten-ACC challenge. Last year in the same game, we played Michigan State (and won) and they ended up in the national championship game.

Posted by: Barno1 | February 24, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

I have nothing to add other than to pimp my alma matter.

GO SPIDERS!

Posted by: jbanks979 | February 24, 2010 5:18 PM | Report abuse

"Historically, Gtown plays one of the weakest non conference schedules of any major conference school in the nation, year in year out."

Not since JT3 arrived. From 05-06, the first season he had input into the OOC schedule:

05-06 - 20
06-07 - 19
07-08 - 24
08-09 - 5

Maryland has played some good OOC games this year. Unfortunately they haven't won any of them.

Posted by: AnneG1 | February 24, 2010 7:50 PM | Report abuse

why the heck would richmond be ranked ahead of md or gtown? there is no rejection of richmond. they are placed about right.

Posted by: slim4 | February 25, 2010 11:07 AM | Report abuse

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Posted by: superyoda41 | February 25, 2010 11:57 AM | Report abuse

I have nothing to add other than to pimp my alma matter.

GO SPIDERS!

Posted by: jbanks979 | February 24, 2010 5:18 PM

Richmond's rep will be tested this weekend. Big, big, big game at Xavier. I really like the Spiders squad this year but, as a Xavier alum, I think we'll take it at Cintas and continue the 31 game A10 home win streak.

Posted by: Kev29 | February 25, 2010 12:34 PM | Report abuse

Richmond's rep will be tested this weekend. Big, big, big game at Xavier. I really like the Spiders squad this year but, as a Xavier alum, I think we'll take it at Cintas and continue the 31 game A10 home win streak.

Posted by: Kev29

Very true, if they play the way they played most of the game against GW, it might quickly go in Xavier's favor. If the Spiders can continue to play their style of basketball (solid defense/hot when it counts in the 4th), I like their chances.

Either way, it should be a great game.

Posted by: jbanks979 | February 25, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Not since JT3 arrived. From 05-06, the first season he had input into the OOC schedule:

05-06 - 20
06-07 - 19
07-08 - 24
08-09 - 5

Maryland has played some good OOC games this year. Unfortunately they haven't won any of them.

Posted by: AnneG1 | February 24, 2010 7:50 PM | Report abuse

This is true. His father (and Eshrick) was known for his cupcake schedules.

Posted by: Barno1 | February 25, 2010 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Why doesn't Dan have a guest Bogger for when he goes on vacation? I assume sports talk radio continues to occur, untranscribed.

Posted by: Lindemann777 | February 25, 2010 1:49 PM | Report abuse


VTDuffman - my bad for not making myself clear on my ACC statement. What I meant to say was, some argue that ACC schools shouldnt have to schedule tough OOC schedules because their conference is so tough. While it hasnt been used this year, its come up in the past. My bad on that.

Barno - as you have done throughout this post, you have taken comments out of context. "Cupcake" applies to the weak OOC schedule that UMD consistently plays - not full schedule. They play in a conference with ranked teams, so they're SOS gets a boost by virtue of their conference. What's sad is even in a conference that has boasted 5 Final Four teams in the last 5 years, UMD still manages such a weak SOS. Their best OOC schedule ranking in the last 5 years is 144.

Thank you AnnG1 and VTDuffman for backing up my points. However, next time, could you please go back to a time period that is insignificant to this discussion so Barno can attempt to make a point?

Final point - "if you don't know what you're talking about people...you shouldn't feel compelled to post a comment." Barno - perhaps you should follow your own advice as you've been corrected repeatedly throughout this discussion from various posters.

Posted by: EShine | February 25, 2010 9:58 PM | Report abuse

I wonder when the gtown will be unseated from the top position. Probebly in a while.


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Posted by: Dlewis10 | February 26, 2010 7:33 AM | Report abuse

eshine, barno taking comments out of context? Surely you jest?!?!?!

hahahahahahaha

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | February 26, 2010 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Barno - as you have done throughout this post, you have taken comments out of context.

Posted by: EShine | February 25, 2010 9:58 PM | Report abuse

eshine, barno taking comments out of context? Surely you jest?!?!?!

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | February 26, 2010 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Poopy, Eshine,

If you're going to make this claim, then please give us specific examples of me "taking comments out of context." Show me your full comment and how I took it out of context. I don't believe I have at all.

Fact is Eshine, you criticized MD's SOS and were not specific as to whether you are talking about out of conference schedule or overall SOS. What am I, a mind reader? Your full quote was: "Terps fans are doing what they normally do this time of year - hyping up their conference, but minimizing the fact they they play a cupcake schedule year in and year out."

You say "year in year out" Md has a cupcake schedule. How did I take this out of context??

Look at the last 20 years and see who's SOS is stronger, MD's or Gtown's, whether it be out of conference or overall. I really don't think there is any comparison if you look at the entire Gary Williams era vs the same time-span at Gtown.

Md plays annually in the Big Ten-ACC challenge. MD also plays annually in one of the major early season tourneys (pre-season NIT, the Coaches Vs. Cancer, Maui Invitational, or Puerto Rican Shootout). MD also in addition plays annually in the BB&T Classic. Every year, that's, at minimum, 5 quality opponents out of conference (and used to be 6, back when the BB&T was a 2-day, tourney style, event). In addition we've scheduled home and aways with the likes of Kentucky, Illinois, Wisconsin, Oklahoma, Temple, as well as others, over the Gary years.

As AnneG1 said "Maryland has played some good OOC games this year. Unfortunately they haven't won any of them." This bacs up my statement. Whether you win or lose those games doesn't effect the SOS. And MD's SOS will be WELL into the top 25 by Selection Sunday. So anyone who is knocking Md's SOS simply isn't paying attention.

Posted by: Barno1 | February 26, 2010 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Why doesn't Dan have a guest Bogger for when he goes on vacation? I assume sports talk radio continues to occur, untranscribed.

Posted by: Lindemann777

What's the need, the bog pretty much becomes Barno1 vs. the world in Dan's absence.

Posted by: jbanks979 | February 26, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

follybeach you got anything to say now? Or is your internet connection messed up from a water main break?

Posted by: jpfterps | March 1, 2010 12:10 PM | Report abuse

Where are the clowns that said Gtown is a legitimate top 10 team and bashed my comments for suggesting otherwise? Where are the clowns that said MD didn't deserve to be ranked? Where did all you people go?

Fact is Gtown got demolished at home on saturday to a mediocre, at best, Notre Dame team that was without its all conference player.

Fact is MD went into Blacksburg and did what no team in the country has done this year, won at Virginia Tech.

My opinion is still that Gtown is more overrated this season than any team, in any sport, at any level, that I have every witnessed. Their losses have been absolutely pitiful.

Posted by: Barno1 | March 1, 2010 1:31 PM | Report abuse

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