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Lance Armstrong takes on Tony Kornheiser

UPDATE: I guess Lance wins. He tweets again:

Just off the phone w/ Tony Kornheiser who's very sorry 4 his comments re: cyclists. Going on the show 2morrow 2 discuss this w/ him....

To me this is all about a relationship. It's bikes and cars. Both will be here forever. Awareness needs to exist as well as mutual respect.

/endupdate

So if you've listened to Tony Kornheiser's radio show any time in the past 5,000 years, you realize that he doesn't like cyclists, and frequently talks of running them over. Like, all the time. Here was the latest example, last week, via The Wash Cycle:

I don't take my car and ride on the sidewalk because I understand that's not for my car. Why do these people think that these roads were built for bicycles?...They don't share the road. They dominate the road. They dare you to run them down....And then when you do, they get angry. What is that about?....And so you tap them. I'm not saying you kill them. I'm saying you tap them. Tap them once....If you're not rubbing, you're not racing right? So you pop them a little bit and see what happens.

I mean, he's been saying things like this for years and years, way before bloggers decided that radio transcription was an acceptable pastime.

If you listen, you also realize that he's playing the character of a crotchety old man who doesn't like John Feinstein (whom he actually likes), doesn't like Mike Wise, doesn't like soccer, doesn't like soccer parents, doesn't like cross-country skiers, doesn't like women's basketball players, doesn't like Jim Rome, doesn't like David Falk, doesn't like Fran Drescher, doesn't like interviewing athletes, doesn't like sales weasels, doesn't like bloggers, doesn't like computers, doesn't like e-mail, and basically doesn't like life.

If the interest groups for everything that Kornheiser had ever insulted on his radio show were to start online campaigns against his radio station, well, that would make for a fairly humorless world. I mean, it's shtick, people. Chill out.

But no, the people will not chill out. The people are angry, and so Kornheiser's biking comments spread to 17 zillion blogs -- including some British site which argued that "It's not funny to ride cyclists off the road - they will be seriously injured and may die" -- until finally getting the attention of Lance Armstrong, the Biker in Chief, who was not amused. Via his Twitter account, which has well over 2.4 million followers:

Listening to Tony Kornheiser's comments/rant on ESPN radio re: cyclists. Disgusting, ignorant, foolish. What a complete f-ing idiot.

Tony Kornheiser on cyclists on the road, "run 'em down". Really? Big mistake, Tony.

Listen to the March 11, part 1 segment and go to 30 mins in. #whatapunkasschump

Not happy about Kornheiser's comments? Let them know @ESPNRadio980, @ptishow, and here http://www.espn980.com/info/contact_us.php

I mean, Lance, you believe that Tony Kornheiser actually advocates running bicycle riders off city roads? Is that what you really believe? Really? When Tony said he "would gladly run over [Paul Farhi] with a Mack truck given the opportunity," did you really take that as an actual murder threat toward a co-worker, rather than just typical Kornheiser silliness?

And do you really believe the best way to punish him is to bring national and international attention to his local ESPN affiliate in D.C.?

Anyhow, the fine folks at ESPN980 responded in the only way they could: with joy.

Hoping to be a Trending Topic Worldwide today, keep your fingers crossed...

And the ever-mirthful Lance then came back in the way only he can:

How douchebags apologize.

So the D.C. radio station winks, and the international mega-celebrity foams at the mouth? This is sort of an early-morning 2-15 upset, but somehow ESPN 980 managed to crush Lance Armstrong on Twitter. And to everyone who's upset, tell it to Phil's mom.

By Dan Steinberg  |  March 18, 2010; 1:03 PM ET
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Comments

It may be schtick, but many people in this world take you at your word, whether you are on tv, radio, or the Internets.
If you don't want to be known for your asshattery, think before you speak and don't make up "characters" who do not reflect who you are just to earn money.
It is all about honesty and introspection.
Just because you know Tony, doesn't mean I know Tony.
He throws enough sh!t out there and eventually people figure he is a poo flinger by nature.
Peace.

Posted by: chucktownCAPSfan | March 18, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

I'm glad Lance could take a break from his busy schedule of blood-doping and shirt-chasing to chime in on this.

I may just nudge a cyclist dressed like they're training for the Tour de France on my way home today just for Lancey-pooh.

Livestrong sucka!

Posted by: sec307 | March 18, 2010 1:26 PM | Report abuse

So if you yell "I've got a bomb" in an airport that's ok if I was just my schtick? Try it some time with a smile and see what happens! Look at all those that listen to TK and tell me they understand it's a schtick. What's next for TK, will he park a truck full of his content, I mean fertilizer in front of Trek bikes as a ratings grabber?

Posted by: topher_cole | March 18, 2010 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Typical Pharmstrong to take some 'slight', blow it out of proportion and twitter about it like a teenage girl. Now watch all of his cronies in the media start bashing Tony.

Posted by: gaogaigar | March 18, 2010 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Yeah fella's NO NFL, NBA, NHL, MLB fatty's do drugs do they? Oh, they don't wear spandex either? Be creative, think of something new regarding drugs in cycling or should they unionize and pretend they don't dope like the rest of fat-ass televised american athletes?

Posted by: topher_cole | March 18, 2010 1:39 PM | Report abuse

dan, this blog post is cah-lassic!

Posted by: hockeypunk | March 18, 2010 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Was Tony's suspension the result of "schtick"?

Probably not so let's be careful out there Tony! Your comments are not always appreciated.

Posted by: kidvid | March 18, 2010 1:40 PM | Report abuse

People actually care about either Lance Armstrong or Tony Kornheiser?

Wow, I'm sorry.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | March 18, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Not liking Fran Drescher or not liking computers does not equal telling people to run cyclists off the road. Not even close.

Posted by: rmeinig | March 18, 2010 1:42 PM | Report abuse

I'm glad that a cancer survivor who dumped his wife for Sheryl Crown and then sumped Sheryl Crow right when she found out she had cancer has found a way to take the moral high ground.

Posted by: flipper5000 | March 18, 2010 1:48 PM | Report abuse

I understand it's shtick and Tony K. is often funny. But as a biker who's regularly threatened by cars in DC, I was not amused.

Posted by: Dellis2 | March 18, 2010 1:51 PM | Report abuse

God Steinberg, could you be more pathetic?

Posted by: Tank2 | March 18, 2010 1:52 PM | Report abuse

The real winner in all this? Ashley Olsen.

Posted by: mrlogical | March 18, 2010 1:53 PM | Report abuse

As @bikesbelong tweeted, "the 716 people killed and 52,000 injured every year while riding bicycles is really funny, isn't it?"

Posted by: nancytoby | March 18, 2010 1:54 PM | Report abuse

ESPN loves this controversy so much they took the audio archive of this exchange off of its website.

I hope a semi runs Kornheiser off the road soon.

Posted by: rmeinig | March 18, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

As a motorist that regularly has to slow down to 15 mph in a 35 for you dummies, I am amused.

You have a right the roads, for better or worse - but most of you DO NOT OBEY THE RULES OF THE ROAD. Until you clean that up, get a bike rack, go to the park, and ride to your heart's content. Otherwise, stay off the road - you are a danger to yourself and others.

Posted by: shaunsherman12 | March 18, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Apparently it would surprise you to learn how often drivers do actually drive cyclists off the road. Tony's schtick helps people feel more comfortable perpetuating the sort of violently adversarial perspective drivers have toward cyclists and he should cut it out. People take themselves and the 20 seconds they have to wait to safely pass a cyclist way too seriously around here.

Posted by: false_cause | March 18, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

rmeinig- if you're out on your bike tonight do wear white...

Posted by: audiohysteria | March 18, 2010 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Drive River Road on a Sunday morning around 11AM and there are 100's of cyclist on the road.

When some guy decides to go 4 wide thinking he is Lance Armstrong and blows in front of car like I have seen too many times to count, someone can get killed.

Until you have seen it, you can't believe it.

These guys think they are Lance Armstrong.

I am a cyclist too and spent many a day at Big Wheel Bikes in Georgetown but I still respect "road rules".

I know where Tony is coming from---a little frustration---and a little humor. Lighten up Lance and put back on your pants!

Posted by: dmacman88 | March 18, 2010 2:06 PM | Report abuse

But if you're going to have that "I insult people" schtick, perhaps you ought not be defensive when people are insulted, eh? Maybe if you know someone who has been injured or knew someone who has been killed because of what TK jokes about the joke becomes slightly less funny.

Posted by: Bass1 | March 18, 2010 2:06 PM | Report abuse

Oh, and the guys in these cycle clubs that wear the yellow jersey truly thinking they are Lance Armstrong is a sight to be seen too!

Don't they still close Beach Drive in Rock Creek Park to joggers and cyclists on weekends?

Posted by: dmacman88 | March 18, 2010 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Kornheisher is a jerk.

Posted by: ridgely1 | March 18, 2010 2:09 PM | Report abuse

As someone whose cousin was killed by being thrown under a bus, I am sick and tired of Kornheiser and Wilbon throwing that phrase around in casual circumstances as if it were some hilarious bit of hyperbole. As @bikesbelong tweeted, the 472 people killed by being thrown under a bus do not find this to an amusing reference, because they are dead and now have the sense of humor of your average cyclist.

Posted by: mrlogical | March 18, 2010 2:09 PM | Report abuse

"I mean, Lance, you believe that Tony Kornheiser actually advocates running bicycle riders off city roads? Is that what you really believe? Really?"

Yes. He said it. And it's believable because it happens.

Substitute "pedestrians" for "cyclists" in Kornheiser's "schtick". Now it's not funny, because pedestrians are considered people, while opinion-leaders like Mr. Tony perpetuate the notion that people on bikes are fair game. There are very few contexts where somebody's death is the punchline to a joke.

Steinz, were you nodding along in agreement when Sarah Palin excused Rush Limbaugh's comments on the word 'retard' as "satire"? Does "satire" = "schtick" + "cranky has-been sports talker"?

Posted by: TheBoreaucrat | March 18, 2010 2:12 PM | Report abuse

I'm so glad someone besides me realizes Kornheiser's blathering is a *schtick*. He complains about everything, just like me! That's why I love him. What's that line from "My Big Fat Greek Wedding"? If he's not complaining, he's dead. Is it Tony's fault people can't think for themselves?

Posted by: slackermom66 | March 18, 2010 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Kornheisher and Wilbon BOTH need to be put out to pasture. They are both so full of themselves they have become pathetic caricatures of sport writers.

Posted by: dcperspective | March 18, 2010 2:20 PM | Report abuse

audiohysteria - I actually rarely ride on the roads any more because so many drivers don't pay any attention to what they are doing.

Since I became a cyclist (back in the LeMond days), I've been doored, been a victim of a hit-and-run, and run off the road numerous times. At the same time, I've become much less aggressive a driver. Now is that due to aging or because I see drivers in a different light because I'm a cyclist? Probably some of both.

But back to the point: Kornheiser advocating injuring or killing people who are wives, husbands, children, and parents is just wrong.

Posted by: rmeinig | March 18, 2010 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Dan:

Usually, you bring a reasonable perspective to these sorts of things. This is not one of those times.

Defending Kornheiser's schtick is beneath you. perhaps you are too-pleased with the cheese-boy shoutouts you got from him.

Kornheiser's comments about Hannah Storm were clasless and tasteless, but not malicious.

His comments about cyclists crossed the line. People do get hit by cars driven by folks who "want to send a message". And guess what! People who get hit by cars go to the hospital, and some die.

Do some basic research...here's a place to start: http://velonews.competitor.com/2009/10/news/i-wanted-to-teach-them-a-lesson-road-rage-trial-resumes_99513

Posted by: phbbbt | March 18, 2010 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Duh...you folks never realized that Kornheiser is the reincarnation of Cosell..ya love him or ya hate him...

Posted by: Ratzoe | March 18, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

"Shtick" is a very subjective thing that is not always perceived that way by everyone. Nobody should even joke about running down (i.e., purposefully killing) cyclists. If someone "joked" about "running down" Kornheiser, I'm sure he'd be just as upset.

Kornheiser's position also reflects naivete of the law, which is that a bicycle has the same right of way on every road except for interstate highways and state highways that are posted "no bicycles."

Posted by: VirginiaDad | March 18, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

I read the commets to get a feel on how both sides see things. Being a biker and a driver I as well can see and feel both sides.

Bikers are jerks and should yeld when they have a line of cars behind them but again autos should cut them some slack if they are riding up a hill and ther is no place to pull off and let you pass. Are you really going to be late becaue you spend a couple of seconds behind a biker? Why don't you run that RV off the road because he is holdingvyou back?

Just so everyone knows. Everyone pays for the road in their taxes so everyone owns the road not just a bunch of drunks driving to the big party in daddys truck.

Someone said everyone thinks they are lance because they wear a yellow jersy... Really? you don't what yellow is for?

Yellow is used to help you see the road workers and bikers as you turn up you swig of beer out of your bottle. It helps you see there is somthing at the side of the road from the corner of your eye.

So put out that smoke and put down that BigMac and extra larg drink till you get home.

Just a thought.. Ride a bike a little and lose a little of that beer belly ..

Posted by: cawoodwilly | March 18, 2010 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Does Lance Armstrong believe Kornheiser is actually advocating hitting cyclists?? Since Armstrong, like many of us, actually has been struck and driven off the road by an aggressive driver I suspect he takes Kornheiser at his word. Since leaving the DC/Baltimore area I have actually almost forgotten what it is like to deal with dangerous drivers as a cyclist, but you are dreaming if you don't think there are many people who feel empowered to be more aggressive by such comments. For all the baby Kornheiser's complaining about the behavior of some cyclists, try judging all auto drivers by the behavior of the worst of them.

Posted by: daveinmaine12 | March 18, 2010 2:35 PM | Report abuse

I actually have the same rant for people who ride their bikes on the sidewalk. There's a road for that!

Also, your early afternoon 15-2 upset could be fortchoming...

Posted by: JohninMpls | March 18, 2010 2:37 PM | Report abuse

I did forget one last thing.

If someone gets hit or nuged by a car after some one in the public eye tells the public to nudge or kill them. I would think that the person telling everyone to do that might end up in a court battle.. I know I'm printing this out and posting it so my family and frinds know who to point the lawsuits at. I think ESPN has a lot of money to be had...

I mean it is just a thought right.. Not telling anyone to do it just a thought...

Posted by: cawoodwilly | March 18, 2010 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Oh, I get it - because someone has said something for a long time, they can't be criticized for it.

Second Steinberg blog in a day to fan the flames. What's the topic tomorrow, Dan, abortion?

Posted by: graceld99 | March 18, 2010 2:38 PM | Report abuse

While trying to remain calm. Here is the gist you just lost my subscription to the post. I can not understand how you can support this. Change it around, if Tony jokes about shooting people with a GUN would you still support him ? I am sorry your wrong, Tony is wrong, and you can kiss one of the few people who still paid for newspaper content goodbye.

Posted by: matthewdougherty | March 18, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

you're right to be offended, easy to see why and absolutely your perogative.

i'm not offended. probably because i regularly listen to TK and 'got' where he's coming from- harumphy & insensitive riffing on various archetypes

-in this case the guy who's all Cinzano/Colnago'd out, riding dead in the middle of the road at a sedate pace and he's righteously PISSED before you even get a chance to pass him...

its all very analogous to the righteously pissed pedestrian who shakes his fist at every bike that dares encroach on his ipod-induced tunnel vision (even when you're 10yards past him and nowhere near hitting them)

Posted by: audiohysteria | March 18, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse

I doubt you'll have the stones to print what I submitted for your "review."

Posted by: VeloStrummer | March 18, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

"Typical pharmastrong" and "Livestrong sucka"....wow I didn't know so much class could assemble in one spot. I mean, it's not like the guy has raised something like $250m for cancer survivors...but seriously, good Kharma builders. And Dan, you argue that all this is good for Tony K because word is getting out about ESPN radio in DC. So you are implying attention to the topic is good for that topic...and that people will listen or be interested once it's out in the news....seems like Tony telling people to run bikers over would follow the same principle, albeit to a smaller audience and at a lower conversion rate.....moral of the story...nice job contradicting yourself.
Bikers need to be aware and follow the rules of the road...but advocating running them over just isn't cool.

Posted by: tonysabum | March 18, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Kornheiser is so irrelevant. I'm surprised anyone even cares anymore about what this old blowhard says. Miss him as a columnist, greatly dislike him as an on-air personality. Sorry, crediting him as a "personality" is being far too complimentary.

I too am a cyclist and know of many others that have had bottles thrown at them, doors opened on them, vehicles play chicken with them, etc. It's very risky sharing a road with 5000 lb. vehicles, even if you do have that right.

I've also witnessed bikers completely disregard rules of the road thus perpetuating the bad rep cyclists have apparently cultivated over time. Therefore, I have decided to ride in the relative safety of my own neighborhood and still get the workout I enjoy (and need).

Posted by: sportphoto | March 18, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

It's illegal in most places and almost always improper to ride on sidewalks. Mr. Kornheiser is a moron, and you're publicizing him, why?

Posted by: test17 | March 18, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

A few years ago I read a couple of articles by Tony Kornheiser and I realized that his articles were not worth reading. Any peculiar schmack who says things Tony K. says should never be hired as reporter.
Simply ignore him.

Posted by: roland115 | March 18, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Kornheiser, Steinberg, ESPN980, Lance, all just chasing clicks.

Posted by: TheBoreaucrat | March 18, 2010 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Dan,

This is beyond satire. It's not funny. Period. I know people who've died because some people actually act on what Tony is "joking" about.

As a cyclist who commutes 30 miles daily to work, I have to deal a potential incident such as Tony advocates as many as 5 - 10 times a week. I am passed recklessly close, honked at, screamed at, and targeted with trash and bottles. All because some impatient driver, taking the 3,000 pounds of metal encasing him for granted, can't be bothered to wait 10 seconds to safely pass a cyclist who has EVERY LEGAL RIGHT TO THE ROAD in almost every case.

Owning a car doesn't mean you own the road.

Posted by: tundralove | March 18, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Korn-hole and sidekick Wil-bum are almost as worthless and the Post and Obama.

Posted by: Drudge1 | March 18, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse

I am a 60 year old man who has been cycling for the last 5 years in northern Virginia, cycling to the Metro station most days.

It's one thing to have a stand-up comedy routine that takes a jab at some group. It's another thing to have a bully-pulpit for years in which one basically calls for breaking the law, vehicular assault, and pumping up rage against cyclists.

When I cycle in the road - at a very good pace, I might add - speeding motorists come much too close, some teenagers yell suddenly to distract me, and drivers of pickups scream at me to get off the road and onto the sidewalk where I belong.

In areas where I must ride on the sidewalk (it IS legal to ride a bicycle on sidewalks provided the cyclist treats pedestrians respectfully and rides with caution). At this point individuals walk their dogs a little too close and let them bare their jaws near my legs, or are so plugged into their ipods that no manner of attention-getting will convince them to step right to let you pass; or you have the men who scream at you that you should be riding in the road.

Kornhiser has a prejudice and he is fomenting the kind of attitude that will ultimately get someone killed because one of his listeners will take his "advice" and tap a cyclist. A tap with a car, at whatever speed, can cause a cyclist to fall under the wheels of the vehicle.

Kornhiser needs to grow up and take responsibility for his words and what they can incite others to do. That goes for the rest of the talk-radio crowd who are enamored of their own words and oblivious of the conflagrations that verbal pyromaniacs cause.

Posted by: wpc09 | March 18, 2010 3:00 PM | Report abuse

So I guess you were also okay when he talked about the female reporter the way he did?

Some things just aren't funny. As a cyclist I am amazed that you just don't get it.

What if someone said that people need to run over every Washington Post reporter they see? Just circle around the Post's building and run down anyone walking out the door? Or would that only be humorous if Tony said it?????

I agree with Lance. Kornheiser is a d***hebag. And I'm starting to wonder about you Dan.

Posted by: dbjackso1 | March 18, 2010 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Kornholio is a wank. Wank. Wank.

And Dan, stop putting words into other people's mouths.

Both Obama and Lance will kick your tuchas!

Posted by: bs2004 | March 18, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse

As a wife of somebody who was hit riding to work I am not amused by this "schtick" it is not at all funny. My husband broke his collar bone, required surgery to fix it, and now has muscular atrophy. Oh and he wasn't riding to work at the local granola factory, but to Nellis AFB in October 2001. Tony is a moron!

Posted by: Carefulshesplashes | March 18, 2010 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Dan it's called being accountable for your words and action. It doesn't matter that Tony is just being Tony. Say next week he's in an accident with a cyclist. I'd say he's looking at some serious charges based on his past anti-cycling history. Earlier this year a doctor in California ended up in jail and lost his license because he was "just trying to teach cyclists a lesson." The cyclist he was teaching a lesson to nearly had his nose sliced off his face. Pretty tough lesson for BOTH parties.

There is no lesson. Cyclists have the same right to the road cars do. Period. You don't like it, get the law changed. You don't go telling people it's okay to tap cyclists.

Tell you what Tony, how bout you explain your comments to the seven year old daughter of Gregory and Alexandra Bruehler. They were killed outside of San Antonio in October by a truck which plowed into them.

Explain to her why it's okay to make jokes about running cyclists down.

Posted by: cshowalter | March 18, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Dan, what if I had an audience of thousands and I encouraged my listeners to hunt you down and beat you over the head with a baseball bat? Would you be ok with that? Would you consider it just, "schtick?"

Posted by: bwilliams1 | March 18, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

People need to listen to the whole segment (or Dan needs to transcribe more).

Kornheiser was talking about giving the entire left lane on some downtown DC streets to cyclists, which he didn't understand. There's apparently a movement to make Penn Ave from the White House to the Capital a bike-only (?) road or to make the left lanes purely for bikes. He's not down with that. He's already annoyed with the behavior of bikers in the right mini-lanes, and doesn't wish them to be making right turns from the left side, which I think is understandable.

He also made mention of bikers who like to drive fairly recklessly. As a biker /and/ a driver, I know what he's talking about. It's not a smart idea to be an aggressive bike rider, okay? It's simply not safe. Bike vs. car almost always favors the car -- in the material world. I understand the desire to take advantage of your "rights" when you turn in traffic, as biking defensively can make biking feel more dangerous as you look every which way around your ride. Let me assure you that driving aggressively, "right" or not, makes everyone behind you who knows they could run you over and cause serious injury uncomfortable in the worst way.

So the schtick is Tony's "Death Star Radio", where instead of admitting that he doesn't understand something that frustrates him (why do bikers risk their lives driving aggressively in traffic?), he lays into the group in question and pretends to wish that their heads would come into contact with a snowshovel. Honestly, under it all, TK seems a pretty sensitive dude; that's why he takes offense so easily in some circumstances, I'd bet.

So ethically culpable? Sure, but he *is* playing a part. He's really rather someone explain why the left lanes in an already over-crowded road would become dedicated to cyclists, and how he's going to know that they won't drive in a way that endangers everyone. That's not a bad couple of questions, and I don't see anyone here taking the time to answer them [in large part because they don't listen to the show].

Posted by: WorstSeat | March 18, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

I can't stand Kornheiser, but I hate cyclists even more. Many of them are extremely aggressive, expect everyone to get out of THEIR way, whether it be on the sidewalk, the street, or bike/jogging paths, and generally act as if they are some sort of protected, priveliged class. Yes, I understand that when you saddle up you feel that it's dog-eat-dog, that you have to be aggressive or else you'll find yourself under the wheel of a dump truck, but as George Thorogood once said, 'that don't confront me none...' Sorry, well-behaved cyclists, but there are just way too many a-hole cyclists out there to ruin the whole batch. Also, please take note- putting on spandex, fingerless gloves, fancy helmets, and sunglasses does not automatically qualify you to train for the Tour de France.

Posted by: pswift00 | March 18, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

I'm with crotchety old man Korny on this one. Most cyclists I encounter don't observe the rules of the road.

Posted by: shanks1 | March 18, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

What Lance meant to say is "How DarkHeart apologizes", but we knew what he meant.

Posted by: rdpinva | March 18, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Dan you done screwed up here dude.

And all cowards who drive around and use your cars to intimidate people are spineless wimps. It never surprises me how many of you wet paper towels never have the guts to get out of your car after I've chased you down and spit a big disgusting loogey on your windshield. Keep hiding behind the wheel you pathetic turds. Keep talking on your cell phone to your boyfriend. Your father's are turning over in their graves at the girly men you've all become.

Posted by: DadRyan | March 18, 2010 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Come on guys, have you *seen* the turn signals Hannah Storm uses while making a left on her bicycle?

Posted by: mrlogical | March 18, 2010 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Look, I'm a biker (both motorcycle and standard) and I know that Tony doesn't mean that people should go out and kill cyclists. When did we as a culture become so thin-skinned?

Posted by: bontster1 | March 18, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Kornheiser is a faded star who desperately keeps trying to draw attention to himself.

Posted by: bethesdaguy | March 18, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Who is more foolish, Kombover or the insipid morons who take the time to pay any attention to him?

Posted by: biffgrifftheoneandonly | March 18, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Dan,

You conclude ESPNRadio980 got the better of Lance on this. Even if this is the case, I say so what? It's not a matter of the radio station vs. Lance; rather it's a matter of Tony Kornheiser suggesting (kidding or not) it's okay to run down cyclists. Should I assume that everything he says is a joke? Is he ever serious? If not, why should I care about his opinions on anything? Cyclists are not just guys in Lycra like Lance; they're everyday Joes and families out for recreation. Tony stepped over the line. He recognized it himself at the end of his rant. He should apologize at the least and, if he really wanted to do something constructive for a change, do a PSA on the importance of watching out for cyclists on the road. My two cents. Sorry, Dan.

Posted by: CyclingLaw | March 18, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Every day that goes by brings Tony and Dan a little closer to retirement, and I am grateful for that. The stressed out crazies in their cars don't need a voice that suggests or okays deadly behavior.

Riding a bike is a challenge already, with people text-messaging, talking on the phone, speeding, drinking and driving, and generally acting like immature babies.

Posted by: ACounter | March 18, 2010 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Oh and Dan, why don't you try explaining your position to Dr. Ed Farrar.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=caple/090721

Posted by: cshowalter | March 18, 2010 3:35 PM | Report abuse

What's going on with Tony K? Is he going batty? First the Hannah Storm comment and now knocking bikers? Come on Tony. You are smarter than that. I take this personally because as a commuter bicyclist in Los Angeles YOU put me in danger because some cholo idiot with a Raiders bumper sticker will take your advice and try to run me over! Thanks Tony for making life difficult for bikers everywhere. Schmuck.

Posted by: jmarks09 | March 18, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse

As someone who has been hit by a car while cycling, I got to say Kornheiser's comments should get him fired. Period. End of story. He can do his comedy routine on the street corner.

I flew through the air when broadsided by a car,landing about 5 feet away from the bike. My broken wrist took a long time to heal. Hospital ER visits cost lots of money.

Be careful out there and watch out for the Tony Kornheisers.

Posted by: mschott2747 | March 18, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

I don't listen to TK's show but I think he's got a point. Every weekend I get stuck behind those bozos with their a**es in the air, blocking traffic, dressed like peacocks, going 10 miles an hour and acting like it is the Tour de France. I think a light tap would be just the thing.

Another Crank

Posted by: glynnjp1 | March 18, 2010 3:53 PM | Report abuse

The issue isn't Tony Kornheiser OR Lance Armstrong and their ridiculous statements and extreme reactions--both of them are rewarded handsomely in their respected endeavors. The issue is us DOPES (myself included) who get suckered into discussing this horse manure. Tony keep on kvetching, Lance ride your damn bike and let's ignore them both because neither one has a monopoly on common sense.

Posted by: bemused5 | March 18, 2010 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Tony could not be more right! Screw cyclists, they are worse than the drivers around here....and the drivers are terrible.

Posted by: RobInVaBeach | March 18, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Hey Lance, don't get your nuts in an uproar.

Oh, wait...

Posted by: mcoghlan | March 18, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Dan, you can also try explaining your position to the loved ones of the thousands of cyclists killed by cars all over the world.

http://www.ghostbikes.org/locations

Posted by: CyclingLaw | March 18, 2010 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Lance Armstrong must not be too bright if he's taking Mr. Tony seriously.
Love Tony's show; listen on the internet.

Posted by: spro | March 18, 2010 4:20 PM | Report abuse

The problem with the threatening/perpetrating violence on bicyclists "shtick" is that so many drivers really do this (to pedestrians as well).

It's just not funny. Every cyclist I know has had a close call with hostile drivers. I did, even when I lived in the midwest, cycling down deserted country roads. Drivers would get enraged.

Posted by: org2 | March 18, 2010 4:28 PM | Report abuse

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I read the commets to get a feel on how both sides see things. Being a biker and a driver I as well can see and feel both sides.

Bikers are jerks and should yeld when they have a line of cars behind them but again autos should cut them some slack if they are riding up a hill and ther is no place to pull off and let you pass. Are you really going to be late becaue you spend a couple of seconds behind a biker? Why don't you run that RV off the road because he is holdingvyou back?

Just so everyone knows. Everyone pays for the road in their taxes so everyone owns the road not just a bunch of drunks driving to the big party in daddys truck.

Someone said everyone thinks they are lance because they wear a yellow jersy... Really? you don't what yellow is for?

Yellow is used to help you see the road workers and bikers as you turn up you swig of beer out of your bottle. It helps you see there is somthing at the side of the road from the corner of your eye.

So put out that smoke and put down that BigMac and extra larg drink till you get home.

Just a thought.. Ride a bike a little and lose a little of that beer belly ..

Posted by: cawoodwilly | March 18, 2010 2:32 PM | Report abuse "

Hahah I love this . . . because "cycling" (biking) for 30 miles on flat ground is the only way to lose weight. FYI there are other ways to lose weight/stay in shape, don't be a pompous a**. Get out, see the world, go for a hike or something, instead of recreating the tour de france on clara barton parkway. You bike-riders really are a danger to yourselves and everyone on the road. You want to use the road and have the same rules apply to you? Fine, I can respect that. Don't run through red lights then. Keep your speed up or yield to the shoulder to let the faster moving vehicles pass. If there is nowhere to pull over, I am reasonable, I'll give you a break. I like the bike lanes in DC, haven't had too much of a problem there.

"Your father's are turning over in their graves at the girly men you've all become."

Says the dude wearing spandex riding a bike. Look I have no problem with people doing this, but seriously? Again, you really shouldnt think this highly of yourself. Whoa, you can dominate the menacing hills of DC on your bikes, intense workout broseph!!!!

Posted by: jacktrickard | March 18, 2010 4:29 PM | Report abuse

I agree with chucktown back at the top. Tony has become the Rush Limbaugh of sports talk. But just because you act like clown for the benefit of advertisers doesn't mean he can avoid responsibility for his comments. And it's sad you have to defend him -- what's the logic? "Tony's comments were so ridiculous that it's everyone else's fault for taking him seriously?" Are you kidding?

I got tired of Korn years ago. The guy's just washed up and desperate. Get some new blood and dump the baggage. And yes, I take full responsibility for my comments and welcome Tony's reply if he wants to drop me a line.

Posted by: RIP-21 | March 18, 2010 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Regarding Kornheiser however, I would never advocate violence, and I understand the seriousness and that accidents do happen. Of course he was joking and its his schtick, but its a tired schtick. Oh well.

Posted by: jacktrickard | March 18, 2010 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Hey Dan, If you really think that advocating running cyclists off the road is defensible, you have no class. Maybe you could explain how hilarious this is to the wife and children of the person killed here:

http://www.wbtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=12155467

It's not like I had to go searching for a link because this happens every day. Pedestrians and cyclists are killed because someone couldn't be bothered to pay attention or worse, it was done intentionally. Should I wait outside WaPo and run you and Tony down the first time you jaywalk? Are you laughing at my awesome joke? Haha, why don't you lighten up?

Posted by: ifionlyhadabrain | March 18, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Surprisingly enough, some people have to ride bicycles to get places. When I got hit by a car, I was a 17 year-old girl riding my bike home from school (no rich parents to buy me a car). Tony can enjoy the little "tap" that left me bleeding on the sidewalk. Oh, and I had the right of way...

Posted by: lcmc4 | March 18, 2010 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Everybody's personal tragedy is the most important tragedy to them. Everybody has been negatively affected by something. Thank you, PC Police. RIP Humor. I'll be expecting all those who are saying Tony was out of line because motorists hitting cyclists is a real tragedy to someone will also step in when anyone makes any kind of joke at another person's expense.

You people are clowns and hypocrites. Get a sense of humor. Nobody intentionally hit a cyclist because Tony ranted on the radio. And if someone ever does, its still not Tony's responsibility to be the single moral standard for everyone who could possibly be listening. If a person is morally bankrupt enough to hit another person intentionally, that's not Tony Kornheiser's responsibility.

Posted by: BDC241 | March 18, 2010 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Why does Jewish "humor" have to be so insulting and sarcastic? If some one started telling Holocaust jokes on the radio, Kornheiser would be the first to cry for a lawyer. The guy is nothing but an arrogant, overbearing bore. Why can't you people who defend this jerk see that.

Posted by: lp_lodestar | March 18, 2010 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Anyone that rides roadbikes, would not find this funny, and in fact would be puturbed by tk's comments. Just becasue his shtik is that of an old angry irelevant google-macheening, dum-dum,it doesn't excuse his comments.

Posted by: Hattrik | March 18, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

The world as we know it now. Complete political correctness and totally humorless. Mega-dittos idiots.

Posted by: croftonpost | March 18, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Looks like all the Tony haters got taken again--hook, line and sinker. You hate the guy but you still need to talk about him and give him attention--brilliant.Silence can be deafening.

Posted by: djorl | March 18, 2010 4:59 PM | Report abuse

My car and I are 2-0 against dudes on bikes.

Posted by: matt8 | March 18, 2010 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Tony has become a pathetic joke.

Posted by: TheDubb | March 18, 2010 5:06 PM | Report abuse

People actually care about either Lance Armstrong or Tony Kornheiser?

Wow, I'm sorry.

wow, I'm with poopy (grins)

Posted by: terp4303 | March 18, 2010 5:08 PM | Report abuse

I'm actually one of the (apparently few) people who finds TK very funny. The reason this humor fails is because it isn't absurd or inventive, it's just the way a lot of obnoxious people really feel.

Posted by: lcmc4 | March 18, 2010 5:08 PM | Report abuse

the funny thing here is that kornheiser does not know the law - it is the law that bicycles are required to ride on the road, 'as far to the side of the road as is safely possible.' Yes Tony, you don't drive your car on the sidewalk because it's illegal. But in case you want to get your facts straight, cyclists cannot ride on the sidewalk either according to the law. Don't believe me? Check it.

Posted by: ckovalchick | March 18, 2010 5:14 PM | Report abuse

Seriously bikers, clear the road so a fat, out of shape, loser in a SUV can go consume more high fructose corn syrup products!

Posted by: mack1 | March 18, 2010 5:14 PM | Report abuse

I would allow Kornheiser his ironic POV if he were funny. He's not funny, and he needs to understand that.

It's not because joking about running over cyclists can't be funny. Anything *can* be funny. However, Kornheiser is not.

Anything that stops him from doing his 'shtick' is OK in my book.

Posted by: boxjam1 | March 18, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

TK is dead on. Bicyclists have no regard for anyone else on the road and then take umbrage when they almost get run over because they are riding the wrong way on a one street.

Posted by: mjwies11 | March 18, 2010 5:28 PM | Report abuse

There is a simple difference between Tony's comments about Paul Farhi and his comments about cyclists. Paul Farhi has probably never had anyone try to run over him with a Mack Truck. Most cyclists have had people in cars threaten to injure them. I've lost count of the number of times I've had people throw bottles/cans at me, yell "get of the f***ing road!" while I ride down the shoulder of a road, or swerve threateningly at me "just for fun".

It ceases to be funny when it's real.

Posted by: robsartin | March 18, 2010 5:32 PM | Report abuse

@jacktrickard: Not all of us are wearing spandex, you metro sexual doosh nozzle. U-Lock in the back pocket that loves to REMOVE side mirrors off of @$$holes cars.

@matt8: You are the biggest coward of them all. Someday your number will come up and a cyclist smashes your face in. Or you get in a horrible burning wreck of a car accident and that fish that's bigger than you and your car devours you. Decapitated by a big ol' truck. Road Karma has a funny way of doling itself out.
Rot in hell.

Posted by: DadRyan | March 18, 2010 5:34 PM | Report abuse

looking back on this thread, i have learned...:

-Jay Leno: you oughta speak to the orphaned child who lost his parents to a pedestrian/auto accident, to explain how having a regular segment entitled 'Jay-walking' is 'entertaining'.

-Cross Country Skiers: you need to call for an immediate boycott of ESPN for the post-blizzard TK shows from earlier this year... don't ask why, just do it- you are in danger as of EXACTLY the next time Kevin Sheehan says its gonna snow 5-plus inches.

-fred sanford: you need to talk to the widow of a heart attack victim, to explain to her how your chest-clutching routine is in any way justified as a 'joke'.

-sunshine: how can you continue to shine when you know people are going to get skin cancer? please stay behind the clouds.

i regret seeing this post before the comments blew up...

Posted by: audiohysteria | March 18, 2010 5:44 PM | Report abuse

The cyclists around here dart in and out of traffic and don't obey traffic laws. I almost never see a car pull a stunt the likes of which I see at least one cyclist do daily.

Even on the W&OD they can be quite menacing, passing when it isn't safe because they don't want to slow down or wait. I jog as close to the right of the trail as possible and will always have at least one cyclist come within an inch of hitting me because he didn't want to bother making a wider pass. It can be very scary.

If cyclists want to be respected more and not have comics make fun of them, they should be more respectful to everyone else.

Posted by: sarahabc | March 18, 2010 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Kornheiser's act has worn thinner then his comb-over. He IS an idiot, even if he was 'joking'. He's a tired a*s clown, who needs to retire and be the 'big man on retirement home campus', where he belongs. Tony is not worthy to sniff Lance's jockstrap, Lance has actually DONE something with his life, he is simply an inspiration. Tony has made his living as a part bad comedian and part 'journalist', which really means talk crap all day. Give it up dude.

Posted by: gs12 | March 18, 2010 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Caught Kornheiser's radio rant last week and he was definitely egged on by Kevin Sheehan (another host on that station) who brought up the topic in the first place and called cyclists 'a bunch of granola eating, tree hugging wackos' (paraphrase). Not that it excuses Kornheiser, but it seems that he got on one of those rolls and couldn't quite apply the brakes on time. Tomorrow's show should be interesting if Armstrong's a guest.

Posted by: Mike_In_Fairfax | March 18, 2010 5:48 PM | Report abuse

The motorists around here dart in and out of traffic and don't obey traffic laws. I almost never see a cyclist pull a stunt the likes of which I see at least one car do daily.

Even on any given street they can be quite menacing, passing when it isn't safe because they don't want to slow down or wait. I ride as close to the right of the street as possible and will always have at least one motorist come within an inch of hitting me because he didn't want to bother making a wider pass. It can be very scary.

If motorists want to be respected more and not have comics make fun of them, they should be more respectful to everyone else.

Posted by: squier13 | March 18, 2010 5:59 PM | Report abuse

Thank you, WorstSeat, for providing the entire context.

Traffic in the DC area is very bad. We need more bike routes deparately, as well as alternative forms of transportation.

But come on people. Far more pedestrians get hit by cars than bikers do.

It's ridiculous to expect anyone who does radio commentary for two hours every day to be perfectly on point with everyone. In context he did not advocate hitting bikers and he does not do that on a daily basis.

On a daily basis, however, he does quote the Rolling Stones every day...

"If you're out on your bike tonight, do wear white."

Posted by: mdreader01 | March 18, 2010 6:00 PM | Report abuse

@jacktrickard: Not all of us are wearing spandex, you metro sexual doosh nozzle. U-Lock in the back pocket that loves to REMOVE side mirrors off of @$$holes cars.

@matt8: You are the biggest coward of them all. Someday your number will come up and a cyclist smashes your face in. Or you get in a horrible burning wreck of a car accident and that fish that's bigger than you and your car devours you. Decapitated by a big ol' truck. Road Karma has a funny way of doling itself out.
Rot in hell.

Posted by: DadRyan | March 18, 2010 5:34 PM | Report abuse

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Take a sedative, "Dad". You sound like one of the arrogant jerks that rides right through the red lights at intersections with his bike.

Way too many bikers chose to ride on busy roads, and then chose to ignore the rules of the road. Until that changes, you all are going to catch some flak.

If you can't handle that, go ride in the numerous parks that are around.

Posted by: shaunsherman12 | March 18, 2010 6:04 PM | Report abuse

So Dan, we all know that sports talk radio is stupid.
And we all know that Tony Kornheiser is the perfect voice for stupid sports talk on the radio.
Shtick, as you so kindly call it.
However, I got "tapped" by a van in a crosswalk on the W&OD Trail in Leesburg in 2002, so maybe I'm just a wee bit sensitive when stupid people say stupid things -- shtick, right?
I was laid up for almost three months as a result of someone trying to run me off the road by giving me a little tap.
Just because its shtick doesn't mean it isn't irresponsible.
And you're bright enough to know that. So's Tony, who gets Lance Armstrong on his stupid show Friday. I hope Lance hits Tony up for a BIG contribution to LiveStrong.com.

Posted by: smkpuck1 | March 18, 2010 6:22 PM | Report abuse

Congratulations, Steinbog, this one really worked! Look at all these comments!

Posted by: NateinthePDX | March 18, 2010 6:40 PM | Report abuse

if Fairfax co wants to make money ......and assuming a big red STOP sign on a bike path means STOP....Then go to the Merrifield/FC area...where the Shreve Rd bike path crosses Virginia La....there is a big official STOP sign for the cyclists to STOP in both directions... ..NEVER NEVER NEVER have i ever seen a cyclist do anything but SPEED UP..right thru the "intersection" !!!!!!

Posted by: FletcherChristian1 | March 18, 2010 6:58 PM | Report abuse

Cyclists are the most annoying, arrogant, and obnoxious losers. They think they own the road and you have to treat them like cars, but then they drive right through red lights and stop signs, pass you on the right, cuss at you if you don't see them driving in the ROAD (which belongs to cars)...

I brake for pedestrians. I speed up and swerve for idiots riding bikes. I'm with ya Tony!!

Posted by: Section104 | March 18, 2010 7:08 PM | Report abuse

Are all these in response to one of those chain letters that say 'pass it on to 10 other people in the next two minutes or something bad happens to you'?

'Cause there's no way Tony has this many listeners.

Posted by: 21stCenturyCaveman | March 18, 2010 7:09 PM | Report abuse

Is Kornheiser and Charro the same person?

What would WILBON say? Oh, my? Wilbon is not cuchi-cuchi...

Posted by: nimes1 | March 18, 2010 7:16 PM | Report abuse

hahahahahahahah....do you think its okay if I ride a unicycle??? some people take stuff to seriously

Posted by: DCFanatic | March 18, 2010 7:52 PM | Report abuse

I don't listen to either of the morons who do that PTO show. They are an embarassment to the Post. Just Schtick? No, just more fuel to fire up the ignorant drivers who think cyclists have no rights. Read the laws. Sidewalks are for pedestrians. If I ride my bike at 20 mph on the sidewalk, I'll be the one running people over. Look at the guy, he's jealous because he couldn't keep up with an athlete if he had to. As for all of the Lance haters and you cute little nicknames, SHOW ME THE PROOF OF HIS DOPING. No, not any? I didn't think so...

Posted by: TerpsfanstuckinNC | March 18, 2010 8:00 PM | Report abuse

OH GAWD --- relax, people..... it's SATIRE

Posted by: dah1963 | March 18, 2010 8:12 PM | Report abuse

I'm a biker -- I just don't challenge cars. HELLO, Darwin......

Posted by: dah1963 | March 18, 2010 8:14 PM | Report abuse

morons..... it's a JOKE.....

Posted by: dah1963 | March 18, 2010 8:16 PM | Report abuse

You're right: Kornheiser is an ass, and everyone knows it.
But your dismissive attitude towards a truly irresponsible remark puts you right out there in the stable with him.

Posted by: RDT1 | March 18, 2010 8:41 PM | Report abuse

Oh, Puh-effing-LEASE!
NOW who's got no sense of humor? Kornheiser makes comments about killing people, and that's funny. OK.
So somebody else makes jokes about what a dick he is, and OH MY all of a sudden you're the PC Police.

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | March 18, 2010 8:55 PM | Report abuse

agree with kornheiser 100%

Posted by: slim4 | March 18, 2010 9:02 PM | Report abuse

spandex clad ghey 2wheelers on pack runs
from glen echo to potomac village on sunny
weekends... just beggin', beggin' i tell ya... bump 'em ? nah...
flatten the day-glo tour-de-france wannabe's...

Posted by: tindal0s | March 18, 2010 9:24 PM | Report abuse

I don't follow Tony Kornheiser that closely, but I recall a couple of years ago listening to his AM-1500 show in the morning and he seemed to end most shows saying something like "If you are on your bike be careful today (if it was raining)" or "If you are on your bike please wear white." It seemed a bit of an odd signoff but hardly unfriendly to bikes. Can anyone enlighten me on that?

Posted by: jimtitus1 | March 18, 2010 9:33 PM | Report abuse

Lance Armstrong really needs to grow a pair. What a loser. This is Kornheiser's shtick. He's been doing it for years very successfully. Seriously is this still a free country or have we become a Communist, military Republican police state. Because that's what it seems like to me. People like Lance Armstrong really need to develop a sense of humor and not be so sensitive about everything. He's gone way down in my book. What a pathetic excuse for a human being.

Posted by: miketodd1 | March 18, 2010 9:38 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for posting this Dan. It looks like we have two parties here. People who "get" Tony Kornheiser and those who don't. I've listened to TK on the airwaves since his start at WTEM in the 90's. I find his various rants about pop culture and celebrities to be hysterical! I laugh at him. I don't take his comments seriously. The man is harmless. But hey, to each his or her own. If you choose to be offended so be it. There are far more important things in this world to focus on, IMO.

Posted by: hokiepokster92 | March 18, 2010 9:48 PM | Report abuse

When a ball rolls out into the street do you just drive along like nothing has happened or do you think about the child that hasn't figured it all out.. Cyclists (and all of us) are just like that - we haven't totally figured out all the consequences of our actions.

Broadcast media should not suggest violence against anybody or group. Saying "I am sorry" to you doesn't matter to you if you are dead, but it will matter to the person that killed you for the rest of their life. What hate somebody who has nothing against you?


Posted by: Cburgart | March 18, 2010 9:52 PM | Report abuse

Tony should know better than to incite violence. What would happen if he said to go out and shoot your fellow students at Va Tech? Do you think he'd get the same treatment? What would happen if a driver decided to "tap" your child riding on the road? You'd be pretty insane and want to kill Tony, I know I would. Bottom line, people in the media have a responsibility to foster the goodness out of people and not the bad. Tony, clean up your act, people have respected you in the past. Do the right thing and make this right. Do show boat and it's not about Lance or your ratings. It's about being a leader and providing a good example for others. If he is concerned about cyclists slowing traffic or not doing the right thing, there the ability to actually address this with the appropriate individuals or through a positive campaign. I'm sure bikers are realistic enough to listen and take note.

Posted by: BobbyW1 | March 18, 2010 9:52 PM | Report abuse

The fact is some people do reach out and hit bikers or runners. It is not funny. I do not think jokes about running over people are funny. I also think the bikers are doing us all a favor by not polluting. I am not a biker but how dare this guy act like injuring another person is ok?

Posted by: celestun100 | March 18, 2010 9:57 PM | Report abuse

I wouldn't ride my bike on city streets in the District. It may be legal, but it is rarely safe, for me or for drivers. I also wouldn't drive a Winnebago in Georgetown at rush hour for the same reason.

Posted by: swmuva | March 18, 2010 10:07 PM | Report abuse

A lot of you people desperately need to get a life. I have never respected Lance Armstrong less. It's a joke, get over it. And if your out on your bike tonight, please wear white.

Posted by: MrDumberton | March 18, 2010 10:10 PM | Report abuse

Whether this is a joke or not, no one can tell. So take it at face value that it is not a joke as insane people will believe that it is not and will kill someone. Does Tony want to be responsible for a death just because he mentioned it on the radio to hit someone? This is not a joking matter.

Posted by: BobbyW1 | March 18, 2010 10:11 PM | Report abuse

bwahahahahahaha, lance is such a tool.

Posted by: marylandmymaryland | March 18, 2010 10:16 PM | Report abuse

BobbyW1, you are just as stupid as lance

Posted by: marylandmymaryland | March 18, 2010 10:17 PM | Report abuse

"And so you tap them. I'm not saying you kill them. I'm saying you tap them. Tap them once...."

Oh. I see. You just "tap" someone on a 20 lb vehicle with a 1000 lb vehicle. What could go wrong?

"I mean, it's shtick, people. Chill out."

Of course. Because we know everyone is as urbane and droll as Kornheiser & Steinberg and everybody "gets" that kind of humor -- especially when they're held up in traffic. I'm sure no one would EVER think of doing this while frustrated.

So if this is just "shtick", then why were these guys so upset and indignant about Gilbert Arenas and his "finger guns"?

It's not like he shot anyone. It's just Gilbert being Gilbert. You know - "shtick". Jeez, chill out.

Posted by: HughJassPhD | March 18, 2010 10:19 PM | Report abuse

swmuva: Here's the thing: IT'S PERFECTLY WITHIN YOUR RIGHTS TO RIDE A BICYCLE IN THE DISTRICT! YOU SHOULDN'T FEEL LIKE IT ISN'T NORMAL.

YOU ALSO ARE WAY OFF TARGET COMPARING DRIVING WINNEBAGO'S IN A HEAVILY CONGESTED URBAN ENVIRONMENT AND PEOPLE WHO ARE ON THE DAILY, WEEKLY AND MONTHLY COMMITTED TO DIMINISHING IF NOT ELIMINATING THEIR CARBON FOOT PRINT BY USING HUMAN POWERED MEANS TO COMMUTE.

WINNEBAGOS ARE FOR THE OPEN ROAD AND VACATIONING, NOT DRIVING THROUGH GTOWN. CYCLISTS HAVE ALL THE RIGHTS OF THE PEOPLE DRIVING THEIR CARS IN DC. WAKE UP.

Posted by: DadRyan | March 18, 2010 10:20 PM | Report abuse

omg, people.

I hereby propose that no one ever says anything to anyone,for fear that they may be offended, or influenced to commit a heinous crime.

From now on, everyone should just sit in a dark room in silence with a paper bag over their head.

Posted by: Dasboot1 | March 18, 2010 10:20 PM | Report abuse

This isn't about which well-known public personality wins or loses. This is about a public figure (Kornheiser) making very specific comments that might incite violence against law abiding citizens.

The "big joke" about performing violent acts against road cyclists in Kornheiser's March 11th show was never funny and will turn downright tragic when the next cyclist dies or is severely injured at the hand of an irate motorist.

What is that next person is a good friend or close relative of yours? What if that same enraged motorist also inadvertently takes out the pedestrian walking on the side of the road nearby?

Kornheiser had the opportunity to take his show in the direction of cyclists not obeying the law (not riding single file on a busy road, for example) rather than incite violence. He chose the latter and should take full responsibility, even if that means resigning from his job.

Posted by: CB12 | March 18, 2010 10:24 PM | Report abuse

I've read Tony and listened to him since I moved to town in 1985, and he stopped being funny and important after the bandwagon ended. He is grumpy and mean and one bad idea away from becoming Imus. He stunk on MNF, and the way the Post held on to him late in his career was just sad. His columns got pathetically unimportant, and his foray into the style section was a bomb. I like Wise, and I give him credit for turning the other cheek to Tony's barbs, but maybe Lance is onto something. There are those few souls who find Tony funny. But all it takes is one guy to take him seriously, Mike.

Posted by: smartsfour | March 18, 2010 10:28 PM | Report abuse

"Tapping" cyclists? Wishful thinking for a man carrying a pair of bbs where his cojones ought to be. Go look at the little nancy-boy vehicles he drives, oh-so-fearfully, with his little bb head peering out from below his steering wheel Florida-retiree style.

He's such a chicken putz--challenge him and see. He fears anything on two wheels. You can beat his faux-caddy thing off the line with a mountain bike. Anybody want an autographed picture of the imprint of my bone-colored Rockport walking shoe on his car-door?

Now, taking on the evil-empire of Starbucks-sipping soccer parents--that's another kettle of mirthless dry-wittedness. Anybody who doesn't show proper fear of someone who eschews waking the nanny and instead takes the kid to soccer Saturday morning to directly fill the air-quotes parent-role end-air-quotes has my respect.

Show me someone who has attended 126 of his or her kid's soccer games and has participated by whining into their coffee-cup lid and watching every minute with their tuchas facing the action, and I'll show you a courageous meeting organizer at work, and a devastatingly no-nonsense emaill cc'er.

Of course, we speak in hushed tones of the king-cobra of soccer parents, the ones who criticize the refs, the coaches, and the other kids, but never played, coached, or reffed

Tony K takes on all comers and deserves our respect, until he gets behind (below, actually) the wheel. His hyperventilating inner yutz kind of shatters the aura.

If Lance Beeswax feels called to challenge this, then he too is a little man who can't pee past his shoes.


Posted by: OldDad | March 18, 2010 10:43 PM | Report abuse

HOW does Corny-heiser continue to get a free pass for repeatedly saying DUMB SH^T on the air? Any of the rest of us who did the same would be F-I-R-E-D!

Posted by: ntlekt | March 18, 2010 10:50 PM | Report abuse

It may be shtick when Kornheiser says it, but people buzz and threaten cyclists all the time, everyday, to intimidate them in the hope that will cause less cyclists out there to annoy them. So this is probably why Kornheiser's words struck a nerve with people.

So, yes, it is good and important that Armstrong has taken time out of his schedule to hammer home the point that it is not acceptable to take dangerous risks with other people's lives. If people didn't do it everyday it wouldn't be necessary.

You say people need to calm down; well, I say Kornheiser needs to stop encouraging people to take dangerous risks with other peoples' lives. It's pretty simple logic.

Posted by: dukiebiddle | March 18, 2010 10:50 PM | Report abuse

Good for Armstrong. There are enough morons - and angry drivers - who will take Kornheiser seriously that he needs to apologize big time and take back those comments. Really, his comments are disgusting. He's advocating violence against cyclists. Absolutely disgusting. Perhaps an 18-wheeler should "tap" Kornheiser in whatever vehicle he's driving to see if he likes it.

Posted by: privacy3 | March 18, 2010 10:57 PM | Report abuse

Tony K used to be a clever guy that sometimes did grumpy schtick. Now he just sounds like he has become a mean old man.

Posted by: cabraman | March 18, 2010 11:35 PM | Report abuse

More trivial gossip from Dan Steinberg.

Posted by: nativedc | March 18, 2010 11:37 PM | Report abuse

First of all, why would I listen to Kornheiser in a million years?

Second, if you think this is a sport--and if you have any guts--name the time and place, come on down on your bicycle, I'll bring my pickup, and--with your permission--we'll play your little game of "Tap."

Third, hitting a cyclist is a crime--assault--and you are engaged in a crime as well--solicitation.

Chill out? When I see criminal charges.

Posted by: WhitakerS | March 18, 2010 11:38 PM | Report abuse

During the blizzards Tony called for cross-county skiers to be shot. Where was the outrage then? It's a joke, have a sense of humor.

Posted by: patmanbnl | March 19, 2010 12:09 AM | Report abuse

People don't cross country ski to work every day @$$ Hole.

How funny would it be if some radio personality started talking about how lame all the distracted drivers were, and how a "funny" way to snap them back into reality would be throwing cinderblocks randomly off the bridges above the mouths to tunnels going under places like Washington or Dupont Circle? I mean, nothing serious like targeting, or aiming for people breaking the law by talking on their cell phones and driving mind you. Just randomly "tapping" their cars with heavy chunks of masonry. No biggie.

Posted by: DadRyan | March 19, 2010 12:21 AM | Report abuse

Gee, Dan, where were you when the Greaseman did that little schtick about expanding Martin Luther King Day to a whole week. It was only a "joke". As many posters here have made clear, threats of bodily injury or death are not funny at all if it mirrors real-life tragic events. If insulting Hannah Storm was deserving of a weeks suspension, this deserves atleast as much time off. Would WaPo allow you to write a column with a similar subject that included your schtick promoting assault? I doubt it.

Posted by: baileyfx | March 19, 2010 12:30 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, I can see this having an impact on some irritable commuter's decisions when faced with a bicycle rider.

It's really harder to be funny these days. You cant just go around talking about smashing people, offending people, injuring people - not like you could in the old days for laughs.

Nowadays, you gotta bring something to the table other than "Old People: they walk slow, their time is past, push 'em outta the way... And in their cars?! drive 'em off the road, am I right? Just kill em, right? I mean, their number has got to be on deck anyway!"

Not that funny.

How about those Jews, right? Let's just gas em up, right? I mean, let's finish the job, right?

See? Not that funny.

Posted by: Thinker_ | March 19, 2010 2:04 AM | Report abuse

I live in Colorado, where we have a great number of cyclists and also a great deal of ignorance about their rights and responsibilities. Fortunately our Governor is also a cyclist (who was injured a week ago on his bike, FYI), and he has managed to pass some laws regarding fairer treatment of cyclists on the road.

Despite a big public-relations campaign, we still have a lot of people who get road rage, text while driving, and generally like to harass cyclists. Yesterday I had a car full of teenage girls start harassing me for no real reason. These are probably the people with the poorest driving skills to start with, and then they start their driving career by trying to intimidate cyclists. We've got a problem when this sort of thing happens. And guys like Kornheiser (who I'm sure really believes what he's saying about cyclists) give bad drivers and incentive to get mad at those of us who are totally exposed on the road.

Look I also drive a car, and I understand that passing cyclists can be scary at times. All it takes is a little bit of patience, and everything will work out just fine. Everyone has rights, and that includes a cyclist's right to use the public roads that we all pay for.

Posted by: RichS1 | March 19, 2010 3:07 AM | Report abuse

omg, people.

I hereby propose that no one ever says anything to anyone,for fear that they may be offended, or influenced to commit a heinous crime.

From now on, everyone should just sit in a dark room in silence with a paper bag over their head.

Posted by: Dasboot1 | March 18, 2010 10:20 PM |

Ditto!

Despite what an earlier poster said, TK has more than just a few listeners. He has an extremely loyal fanbase. His current radio show is locally based in DC, but he has regular listeners around the globe as evidenced by his mailbag segment at the end of each show.

BTW, if you hate Tony Kornheiser and disagree with everything he says, don't listen to his show and turn the dial. For those that want to put a muzzle on TK, there is something called the 1st amendment in this country.

Posted by: hokiepokster92 | March 19, 2010 6:18 AM | Report abuse

The only reason bicycles are allowed on the roads is because of the historical accident that they were invented before cars.

When all roads were dirt and the only other traffic was horse drawn wagons traveling at 5 miles per hour.

If they had been invented in 1920, they wouldn't be allowed on the roads anymore than tricycles or Big Wheels or golf carts are.

Bicycles should be banned on all roads where the motor vehicle traffic is more than 100 vehicles per hour.

Posted by: corco02az | March 19, 2010 6:27 AM | Report abuse

Kornheiser is a moron. It is ILLEGAL to ride bicycles on the sidewalk in downtown DC.

Posted by: gasmonkey | March 19, 2010 6:33 AM | Report abuse

Rights and Freedoms are great things but the require responsiblity. You have the right to write what you like as your radio guy has the right to air what he wants. But the complete lack of responsibilty, the complete shirking of responsibility for what comes out of your mouth, or off your page, is lacking in intelligence, not very well thought out, and shows a complete disregard for your fellow human being. You could be the cause of people being injured or killed as you advocate the comedy aspect of knocking someone off their bike. If this guy hates life as much as you say, he should be in a clinic for the depressed. I have no time for Armstrong, but I have less time for those that shirk the moral responsibility because they are lazy and cowardly.

Posted by: collie1 | March 19, 2010 7:31 AM | Report abuse

We laugh because we've all thought it while driving on Beach Drive or 16th Street. The whiners need ... oh just go watch Good Morning Vietnam. You need that.

However, outside of the latest pissy Armstrong moment, I think Mr Tony's mouth is nearing the end of its creative lifecycle. A lot of what's new for him isn't funny and rings true (unlike cyclist trampling) only for him .. his own personal whine station. Gets old, like him.

Posted by: tslats | March 19, 2010 8:07 AM | Report abuse

I like listening to Tony

AND

I sometimes bike to work

The Venn diagram of those two, I'm afraid, is

F Tony--reduced desire to listen

Posted by: farstriker | March 19, 2010 8:19 AM | Report abuse

The problem with Kornheiser's crack about cyclists is that drivers really do harass & occasionally kill them. As demonstrated by the fact that morons commenting here think that "lawless" cyclists are fair game.

Posted by: davidpancost | March 19, 2010 8:37 AM | Report abuse

Did Tony Kornholeser ever
participate in sports
himself. It is rumored that
he was pretty good at leap
frog. He blamed his hemorrhoids on male leapers
who were always not leaping
high enough !!!!

Posted by: flyersout | March 19, 2010 8:41 AM | Report abuse

"So the D.C. radio station winks, and the international mega-celebrity foams at the mouth.."

...and a WashPost blogger jumps on the bandwagon because he knows a post on the subject will generate a few hundred comments on his blog.

Jackass.

Posted by: bikes-everywhere | March 19, 2010 8:41 AM | Report abuse

The problem with Kornheiser's crack about cyclists is that drivers really do harass & occasionally kill them. As demonstrated by the fact that morons commenting here think that "lawless" cyclists are fair game.

Posted by: davidpancost | March 19, 2010 8:37 AM
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Grow a pair, will ya? It's a freakin' joke. Big baby.

Posted by: shanks1 | March 19, 2010 8:47 AM | Report abuse

I hate traffic fouling bicyclists on the Metro area streets. Bikes are meant to be ridden on bike paths not open to automobiles. If you don't have a car, take a cab, walk, metro, but for the love of god stay the hell off my streets.

Posted by: 6thandD | March 19, 2010 8:56 AM | Report abuse

It doesn't matter what Korny believes; its what his audience THINKS.

And, come on, there are soooo many idiots out there that just statistically at least 2% of his listeners take him seriously!

Even if one tries to "tap" a cyclist because of Korny's moronic rantings that's one cyclist too many injured -perhaps mortally because you can't "tap" a cyclist with a car!

It's time people remember that what they say carries weight -whether they mean it too or not.

Posted by: topwriter | March 19, 2010 9:02 AM | Report abuse

TK, joking it or not, has a point. There are way too many cyclists who treat the roads around here, which were built for motor vehicles, like a bicycle is equivalent in every way to a motor vehicle. It isn't, whatever the laws may say.

I live in Reston, where there are bike paths aplenty, yet vast numbers of cyclists still take to the roads. There's nothing wrong with this on weekends or other times when the volume of vehicles is lower, but an awful lot of them choose to ride during rush hour, which verges on suicidal in this day and age, what with people yacking on their cell phones or worse, texting. Common sense'll tell you this is a risky gambit at best. Traffic is congested enough around here without cyclists slowing it down further.

In England, where the numbers of cyclists in urban areas is far greater, they understand that what they're doing is dangerous and don't whine about it. American cycling enthusiasts, Lance Armstrong included, should do likewise and shut up. We're not talking about the Tour de France here, merely folks getting for some fresh air and exercise or as an alternative to driving short distances, both admirable. Why put your life in someone else's hands in doing so? Isn't life difficult and dangerous enough without tempting fate in this way?

Posted by: mrbeer | March 19, 2010 9:23 AM | Report abuse

Whether or not Tony Kornheiser would actually run down a cyclist is irrelevant No broadcaster should be advocating violence against any person, persons or group, period, end of subject. (Personally I think he would if he thought he could get away with it).

Posted by: cyclingaddict | March 19, 2010 9:34 AM | Report abuse

1) Not YOUR streets for me to stay off of. I pay taxes too, sir.

2) Most cyclists, like most drivers, are careful and follow the rules. It's just the morons who stand out. Don't lump me in with them. There are idiots in all walks of life. Generalizations make poor arguements, particularly when you are advocating violence, assault and potential murder.

3) I'd be more willing to dismiss Tony K. as the idiot he is if I hadn't been "tapped" before. People do this and think that they are somehow justified. It is a far too real problem. A lot of people listen to these shows. Not all of them get that it is a joke. It's easy to be brave when the gun isn't pointed at YOU.

4) Should you feel the need to become a road vigilante, be warned. A doctor in CA recently did just that and injured two cyclists. He has been sentenced to FIVE YEARS in jail. Perhaps even if you have no regard for my life, you would be well advised to care about your own.

(http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2010/01/cyclist-sentenced.html).

Posted by: jeffgraham117 | March 19, 2010 9:37 AM | Report abuse

Wow. You really don't get it, Dan. I take it you haven't spent 2 minutes trying to commute to work on a bike or ride in the city for enjoyment. You haven't stopped to appreciate the very real dangers comments like this expose. You only need to read the ignorant jackass comments of posters like 6thandD to get a sense of what's at stake, and how very wrong all of you are.

It's not YOUR road. It's as ignorant as saying it's ok to run over joggers and pedestrians b/c they are in the road. I don't know what your motivation is in playing this down as harmless fun. If it's to stir up hits for your blog, it's pathetic.

Posted by: stuttsdc | March 19, 2010 9:40 AM | Report abuse

First - for Tony, and for Dan - Over 4000 of my fellow soldiers have died in Iraq so you can have gas for your road machines. But your self centered belief is that Americans shouldn't try to be green in commuting.
Second - you probably don't have a friend or family member who was riding a bicycle and killed by a motorist, and you certainly have never been on a bicycle and had a driver deliberately swerve to try and scare you, or possibly just bump you. That's just good ole boy fun, right?
Shame on you Tony!! Shame on you Dan!! Its not harmless fun.

Posted by: humbleandfree | March 19, 2010 9:41 AM | Report abuse

What a ridiculous dispute. You'd think that city streets are overrun by cyclists bringing traffic to a standstill. For the most part cyclists know the protocol: (1)hug the white line to the right of the road (2) when traffic approaches, move further to the right (3) wear a helmet (4) avoid heavy traffic conditions (5) wherever possible, use a bike trail or a bike lane. Occasionally you'll see an idiot in the middle of the lane and/or not wearing a helmet, but that's the exception. For the most part, out of necessity, cyclists are much more aware of what's going on than motorists. Next subject...

Posted by: randysbailin | March 19, 2010 9:41 AM | Report abuse

Steinberg quote: "I mean, Lance, you believe that Tony Kornheiser actually advocates running bicycle riders off city roads? Is that what you really believe?"

Hey, bean-brain Steinberg. The problem is not whether Kornheiser is a funny guy with a stupid sense of humor. The problem is there are people out there that actually believe what he's saying. It's the opposite of the law and it is a serious problem. Serious problems that are used as comedy fodder makes the problem even worst.

I don't get how the Washington Post, between idiots like Dr. Gridlock and now add to the list, Dan Steinberg, get away with defending idiocy.

Posted by: boblas | March 19, 2010 9:43 AM | Report abuse

I luv Tony K & I grew up with his schtick.

But for some of you nitwits who actually take it too seriously, remember either way:
You hit me on the road - when I am bicylist or a pedestrian - you lose your house, shirt & I rape your wife & daughter. Period.

Posted by: Rocc00 | March 19, 2010 9:44 AM | Report abuse

So topher_cole said,

"I've got a bomb" in an airport

I think it's wrong to say it is ok to have bombs in airports. I think we should be more upset about that comment!! - oh did I take that out of context? but it is taken from his transcript of his blog entry it must be true and what he meant.

Kornheiser was ranting about bikers who do not share the road and ride side by side and make no room for the cars - in a 20 minute diatribe it was the 2 second punch line that is being parsed and annualized completely out of context.

Posted by: cherron67 | March 19, 2010 9:45 AM | Report abuse

I'm thinking a bunch of cyclists should show up and greet Tony arriving at work next week if he doesn't make some sort of legit apology... We know where you work Tony.

Posted by: DadRyan | March 19, 2010 9:46 AM | Report abuse

Lance is a poo-poo head HGH-popper press diva. And, Tony is right--bicyclists on the roads suck. Once we saved up plastic baggies with urine and feces and flung them at the road hoggers. Haw! It was fun watching them react. I suggest this for everyone who wants entertainment.

Posted by: tjhall1 | March 19, 2010 9:49 AM | Report abuse

@mrbeer, Dan, and others...

"There are way too many cyclists who treat the roads around here, which were built for motor vehicles, like a bicycle is equivalent in every way to a motor vehicle. It isn't, whatever the laws may say."

WRONG. WRONG. WRONG.

The point you all clearly miss is that cycling is not only equivalent, it's necessary. That one cyclist who's 'in your way' is one less car, one less traffic jam. It is not the fault of the cyclist that the driver is too busy to be driving the speed limit or is texting or is distracted. That is well beyond the point.

And if you still don't get it, you only need to listen to the recent comments of the US Secretary of Transportation, Ray LaHood:

"..Today, I want to announce a sea change. People across America who value bicycling should have a voice when it comes to transportation planning. This is the end of favoring motorized transportation at the expense of non-motorized.

We are integrating the needs of bicyclists in federally-funded road projects. We are discouraging transportation investments that negatively affect cyclists and pedestrians. And we are encouraging investments that go beyond the minimum requirements and provide facilities for bicyclists and pedestrians of all ages and abilities.

To set this approach in motion, we have formulated key recommendations for state DOTs and communities:

* TREAT WALKING AND BICYCLING AS EQUALS WITH OTHER TRANSPORTATION MODES..."


It goes on. You all need to get it out of your head that the road is some right only you are entitled to and that cycling has no legitimate place in transportation solutions in our community. If you can't handle that, you shouldn't be driving anywhere.

Posted by: stuttsdc | March 19, 2010 9:51 AM | Report abuse

Everyone is WAY too serious these days, to many misplaced egos out there...

Posted by: beenthere3 | March 19, 2010 9:53 AM | Report abuse

Tony can dislike whatever and whomever he wants. But he doesn't have the right to issue his version of a fatwa -- one that will only encourage crazies to kill cyclists. Tony isn't any more enlightened than the Ayatollah Khomeini...and you are almost as stupid for defending his warped "humor". It isn't funny to suggest killing people just because you don't like them or they are different from you!

Posted by: carol25 | March 19, 2010 10:10 AM | Report abuse

"For the most part, out of necessity, cyclists are much more aware of what's going on than motorists"

Thanks for understanding. As for the riding in the middle of the lane, when we're riding on one way streets (plenty of busy ones in DC) we are mostly trying to avoid drivers who don't know where they are, and tend to be making drastic lane changes to make left and right hand turns. Safest place to be is hugging the lines out in the middle of the chaos.

I stay to my right, but when approaching an intersection I check over my shoulder for cars using signals(what you are required to do by law) or cars showing the "body language" of a car wanting to make a turn. If someone is flying up behind me, I generally will move to the left and open up the *turning lane*. Too many drivers out there underestimate a bicycles speed and in their hurry make a hasty pass and then try to make a quick turn often cutting off less experienced cyclist. More experienced urban cyclists anticipate that every driver out there doesn't see you, so they ride like you all (drivers) don't. We're not trying to piss you off folks, we're trying to make it home in one piece to our wives, kids and families.

It's illegal to ride on the sidewalks (especially in the "core") in Downtown DC. Have any of you cycle haters ever tried to ride a bike on the sidewalk in Georgetown on the weekend? Impossible, and dangerous. Same on K st at lunch time.

Bikes have the rights to be in any lane they want unless designated otherwise. We all have to make left turns at some point in our journeys. When you see a cyclist drifting that direction, just slow down a bit and give yourself an extra second to read the road and what is happening on it. It's hard, dangerous, and often impossible to stick out a hand signal to make those moves in brisk traffic, and things like heavy road debris and potholes make it even more difficult.

Cooler heads will prevail. If you're hating, just try to put yourself in the cyclists shoes, or imagine your children in the future having to deal with the consequences of a less bicycle, and pedestrian friendly future.

Posted by: DadRyan | March 19, 2010 10:12 AM | Report abuse

Tony used to be a relevant sports reporter. Now he's just another overbearing, loud mouthed talking head with not much to say (except about Hannah Storm' wardrobe, which was right on).

Yawn! Stick a fork in him, he's done.


Posted by: stephenrhymer | March 19, 2010 10:13 AM | Report abuse

Dan Steinberg, your whole point is ridiculous. That a TK, who is listened to on many CAR radios, would advocate drivers to "run [cyclists] down", clearly crosses a line. If you take his comments and substitute cyclist, with pedestrians or motorcyclists, I don't think your reaction would be as casual. It is one thing to mock a sport or it's participants, but when you call for violence, especially when cyclists are run down by inattentive drivers with some regularity, it isn't just kidding around. In short you suck Dan, just shut up stay in your office and keep pretending to be a journalist.

Posted by: Ringer_one | March 19, 2010 10:16 AM | Report abuse

www.KillKornhiesersDaughter.com

I love schtick!

Posted by: prokaryote | March 19, 2010 11:11 AM | Report abuse


Tony Kornheiser and Michael Wilbon = Moron's

Posted by: hessone | March 19, 2010 11:31 AM | Report abuse

tony does schtick!!!! he should not have to make a apology
if i was tony i'd remind everyone that i do schtick!!! then if any one is still upset i'd tell them to f off!!!!!!!!!

people need to get a life and lighten up
stop being so serious!!!!!!

Posted by: steveuchic | March 19, 2010 11:43 AM | Report abuse

Poor little spandex clad carbon fiber riding Lance wannabees. riding a 100+ miles on that narrow seat obviously destroyed your sense of humor and common sense.

There are times when I want to just you all over too. For instance when I am delivering 20000lbs+ of round organic hay bales and a bunch of spandex clad leg shavers are playing Giro d Italia on the road I am on. I would like to maintain my momentum going uphill.
Please get the f out of my way. Its helps me get up the hill. Instead of just hitting the spandex clad wussies I turn the engine controller to full power and engulf them in noxious black clouds or Duramax turbo diesel exhaust.

Then we have the bike clubs who hold rides out in Loudoun and Fauquier. Oh joy a bunch of spandex clad liberal greens who don't have any common sense. Lets check route instructions around a blind corner.

Now I mountain bike and own a Santa Cruz Heckler and Blur. My family and I often bike into Upperville but we use common sense and realize we can kick Lance's ass on a mountain bike. e don't wear spandex and prefer baggies.

Roadies need to learn to share the road and think. And get rid of the arrogance.

Posted by: sheepherder | March 19, 2010 11:44 AM | Report abuse

I rode my bicycle 3600 miles on the roads last year, but I never once strayed onto a commuter artery at rush hour. Back when I lived and commuted to work in the Washington area, I used to joke (just a JOKE, Lance) that they should offer a $500 bounty for each bicyclist that you hit in rush hour on a commuter artery. There are plenty of bike-friendly routes; it is anti-social for bikers to tie up rush hour by riding on big commuter streets in rush hour.

Posted by: dolph924 | March 19, 2010 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Doesn't Tony end just about every show by saying :if you are out walking or riding your bike, please wear white".

I am thinking it's a safety suggestion. Although I guess he is saying it so he has easier targets.

Get a life Lance.

Posted by: tzj20874 | March 19, 2010 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Lance Armstrong is self-righteous. Hmm... That about sums it up.

Posted by: cookie714 | March 19, 2010 11:51 AM | Report abuse

Tony Kornheiser's ranting is akin to those of the Taliban which urge people to engage in Jihad and kill Americans. It is not free speech but rather an incitement to violence. I say this as a cyclist that at one time typically rode 300 miles a week for exercise and stress relief and was been "bumped" or "rubbed" several times by Tony's supporters. These little statements of support for him have resulted in trips to the hospital on several occasions as well as damage to my bike… and ...they all occurred while I was riding in clearly marked Bicycle Lanes”...and once even on a “Bike Path” that prohibited motor vehicles.

These supporters of his did not stop to offer help, but rather stopped to ensure their message had been clearly delivered - roads are only for bicycles even if it says bike lane. Obviously, they have a very low intelligence level since they can not read or write - the phrase “Neanderthals” comes to mind in describing their intellectual level.

And the word “criminal incitement comes to mind when thinking about Tony Kornheiser’s remarks. As bicycle riders, perhaps the best way we can all address his concern would be to bring suit against him, Dan Steinberg and ESPN 980 as co-conspirators the next time this happens to one of us. After all the Feds have proven that speech is not free if it insites an act of terrorism.

Posted by: rbtwmflan | March 19, 2010 11:51 AM | Report abuse

As a motorist, most bike riders I have seen are courteous and law abiding, but there are a few bike riders who don't obey any rules or laws that give safe riders a bad reputation and trigger a lot of animosity among motorists. I would suggest that the bike riding community call out these rotten apples and get a dialog established with motorists to discuss trouble areas in the city and solutions that would help both bike rider and motorist. I think the establishment of bike lanes is a good idea to be encouraged, but until there are enough lanes we all are going to have to practice some patience. Motorists need to realize that tthe biker is a human being and bumping or worse could result in murder or assault charges. Bikers need to realize that the road has to be shared and riding 5 abreast, ignoring traffic signals, and assuming the motorists sees you are bad practices that will eventually result in harm to you or another bike rider.

Posted by: JAMNEW | March 19, 2010 11:59 AM | Report abuse

I love how people will find any excuse possible to unleash their anti-semitism. Tony's comments have nothing to do with religious background. The fact that the Washington Post is allowing these comments at all on their website is shameful and abhorrent.

lp_lodestar and Thinker_... I'm looking at you. Shameful.

Posted by: flipper5000 | March 19, 2010 12:01 PM | Report abuse

I don't think Lance has ever been confused for a rocket scientist. Why do you think he rides a bike !?!?!?

Posted by: VaBroker | March 19, 2010 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Aw man. This just reminded me the pack of 25+ cyclists will be returning shortly to the Oak Hill, VA area. Do you guys really all need to ride together??? Passing 3 cyclists together is difficult enough, but waiting 45 seconds for your herd to pass by is ridiculous. And then having to follow you to my destination because I can't get by... Break up the group a little, please.

Posted by: DKEAT | March 19, 2010 12:08 PM | Report abuse

Kornheiser doesn't have it in for all cyclists, just the ones who dress like Hannah Storm.

Posted by: mattintx | March 19, 2010 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Mr Kornheiser has told the cycling community that they are a target. He has advised his listeners to "run them down". Mr Kornheiser statement will lead to premeditated vehicle murder. Riding a bike is an american tradition, from our childhood on tricycles to adults on road/touring/mountain biking. I have cycled 48 of my 50 years, many of those years in the Washington DC and surrounding area. Road rage is already a terrible problem both urban and suburban. It is ignorant statements as these that lead to tragic accidents and possible death. If bikes are his first target, what comes next. Pedestrians? Children getting off the school bus? Tell me Tony....where is the X on your car?

Posted by: omegajwood | March 19, 2010 12:19 PM | Report abuse

No one is happy unless they feel like someone is victimizing them. We have become a land of victims.

Posted by: dcmg | March 19, 2010 1:05 PM | Report abuse

They're trying to do the same thing to TK that they did to Don Imus. They're dopes. :)

C'mon Lance, lighten up. Imus and TK do satire and comedy and they're not unique. If everyone took comedians like Colbert literally it would be a sad day.

Posted by: Bluefish2012 | March 19, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Obviously anyone who graduated kindergarden knows Tony was kidding.

Posted by: skinsFan74 | March 19, 2010 1:15 PM | Report abuse

chucktownCAPSfan:

You need to find yourself a sense of humor. Don't make up characters just to earn money?!?! What do you think every stand-up comedian does for a living? What do you think half of the radio-personalities currently on air do every morning? These criticisms make no sense -- it's as if people expect "real news" from the funny pages. The state of American education has clearly sunk to dismal depths, when folks can no longer differentiate serious statements from humor, satire, and other tongue-in-cheek moments.

Posted by: carpiodiem | March 19, 2010 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Tony used to end his radio show with "if you are out on your bike tonight please wear white". Maybe he does care about bikers or his eyesight is failing and he needed better defined targets.

Posted by: Noarden | March 19, 2010 2:13 PM | Report abuse

I do like watching Tony on PTI every day, but this still offended me even though I'm familiar with his on-air personality.

I was always a very cautious cyclist, just going to and from work each day and mostly staying on trails. It took me a lot time to build up the confidence to even use the street, and now I have permanently damaged knees from being tapped by a bus. I can't do a lot of activities I used to enjoy. I think this issue is about aggressive driving in general; my roommate was hit in the very same place 2 days ago, jogging through a crosswalk with a walk signal. I had a close call with drivers every other day when I was commuting, and I was never taking up a lane or moving slowly. I cannot tell you how frightening it is to be pedaling as fast as your legs can go and see a bus behind you closing in...

I don't think Tony realizes the effect of his words the way all of us do who've been hurt or know someone who has been killed. If he got suspended for making fun of Hannah's outfit, this should surely be taken more seriously than that.

Posted by: blankuser | March 19, 2010 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, don't dare create "characters" that can say anything even remotely controversial. That might actually be entertaining and who would want that. I'd much rather listen to boring, vanilla radio. His job is to entertain. If you're not entertained, don't listen--everyone knows that's how you punish an entertainer if your're that upset.

Posted by: bowie2000 | March 19, 2010 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Dan -

Maybe I can help you understand why this is a sensitive issue.

First, there's a class angle. I ride my bike to and from work every day. I use my bicycle because it's good exercise and it's the cheapest way to get around. There really are people that can't afford a car. It also makes a difference for me to be able to save a few dollars a day on transit fares. When Tony Kornheiser tells me to get a car or get on the train, he doesn't tell me how to pay for that, which is really obnoxious. Am I less entitled to get around because I make less than he does?

Second, this is about safety. What is a joke to him is life and death to cyclists. Maybe Tony Kornheiser has never actually hit a cyclist with his car, and he was joking. But other drivers hit cyclists every day. Just yesterday on 15th Street a driver with road rage deliberately tried to run me down, twice, after tailgaiting me for a block with her horn held down the whole time. I was terrified and I thought she was going to kill me. I'm sure she felt like Tony - she thought I didn't belong in the road. I'd like to remind her, Tony, and all other drivers like them that in downtown DC it is illegal for cyclists to ride on the sidewalk, and all I was doing was obeying the law while trying to get to work. It's also safer for pedestrians if cyclists stay on the road.

I pay taxes. I ride on the right as much as I can. It would be great if Tony could realize that other people need to get from A to B just as much as he does.

- A female cyclist.

Posted by: thadden | March 19, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse

They're both rich a-holes totally disconnected from reality. But Lance is an American hero. Tony is a geezer with a face for radio (yet he's on TV).
Winner: Lance.

Posted by: jwm1974 | March 19, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse

They're both rich a-holes totally disconnected from reality. But Lance is an American hero. Tony is a geezer with a face for radio (yet he's on TV).
Winner: Lance.

Posted by: jwm1974 | March 19, 2010 3:33 PM | Report abuse

sorry didn't mean to post twice. now i'm an a-hole too!

Posted by: jwm1974 | March 19, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

"My family and I often bike into Upperville but we use common sense and realize we can kick Lance's ass on a mountain bike. e don't wear spandex and prefer baggies."
posted by: sheepherder....

You and your family know Lance races mountain bikes too right?
I'd like to see how well you all would do pitted against him in the Leadville 100....

Posted by: DadRyan | March 19, 2010 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Way to go Dan! They're coming out of the woodwork. You know you've done well when user handles are specific to the topic at-hand. IMO Tony was wrong but not to the point where an apology is owed. Lance Armstrong dropped a rung in my book. I understand that there are asshats in our society who would actually take TK's words seriously, and that those people DO pose a danger to the rest of us, but I'd rather have them around than these thin-skinned PC police. JEEZ!! [/kids today]
I WILL say that i never realized how bad it is for bikers out there. Please try to stay safe! And remember, crotchety radio hosts don't kill people, PEOPLE kill people.

Posted by: Tom703 | March 19, 2010 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Kornheiser BLOWS.
Wilbon also.
Wise is not much better.

A real sports town has real sports journalists. Not shills for the NBA and NFL.

Philly, Pittsburgh, New York, Boston, and ChiTown have it head and shoulders over Washington.

Which is a crying shame (coming from a die hard DC SPORTS fan).

Ovechkin and the Caps aside, most outsiders still laugh at the DC Sports scene.

Jus' sayin.

Posted by: wxdancer | March 19, 2010 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Look, while Kornheiser did not literally threaten to kill Paul Farhi after getting a downbeat review for his debut on Monday Night Football, he very definitely expressed the belief that Farhi, as a Post employee, should have been in the tank for him. There are dozens of on the record examples where Kornheiser has acted like a total jerk, or made threatening comments, only to fall back on the old "I was only joking," line, which is the line every bully pulls out when he gets called out for his behavior. It's gotten worse as Kornheiser has gotten older--he literally has become the old man yelling at the kids to get the hell off his lawn.

And, oh yeah, he's not on Monday Night Football anymore, is he?

Posted by: jhpurdy | March 19, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

A real sports town has real sports journalists. Not shills for the NBA and NFL.
Philly, Pittsburgh, New York, Boston, and ChiTown have it head and shoulders over Washington.
Which is a crying shame (coming from a die hard DC SPORTS fan).
Ovechkin and the Caps aside, most outsiders still laugh at the DC Sports scene.
Jus' sayin.
Posted by: wxdancer | March 19, 2010 3:59 PM

We also don't live & die with sports you over age high school moron.

Posted by: Rocc00 | March 19, 2010 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Another person Tony doesnt like is Hannah Storm. Its because she turned down his ugly face.

Posted by: rockbroker | March 19, 2010 4:30 PM | Report abuse

shaunsherman12: "As a motorist that regularly has to slow down to 15 mph in a 35 for you dummies, I am amused".

Well ShaunSherman in the first place the 35 limit is a designated safe maximum speed, not an entitlement; the inevitable traffic light just down the road will hold you up far longer than the cyclist; and most motorists honor the 35 speed limit by driving 45 anyway. Check MD 117 Clopper Road as a datapoint every morning or evening if you want proof.

In the second place, when I am on the bike and passed by a vehicle it is almost never just one vehicle passing me, it is a whole fleet: and it is clear here that the cyclist is not the party responsible for "holding up" the 2nd to Nth vehicles in that line.

You are not 'entitled' to drive the speed your car is capable of. You are licensed and privileged to use the public right-of-way and share it in a responsible way with other users. That is regardless of whether they drive a minivan 10 mph slower than "your" speed or a bicycle at 15 mph.

Posted by: j_s_nightingale | March 19, 2010 4:30 PM | Report abuse

So many channels in the world...don't listen to his show if you don't like what he says.
I don't like people like Rush and Glenn so I don't watch their shows.
No, I am not a fan of TK.
Yes, I am a fan of riding my bicycle.
And Lance, stop taking steroids and give back some of those yellow shirts that you "won" while cheating...

Posted by: luvdc808 | March 19, 2010 4:59 PM | Report abuse

My god, how many people even listen to Tony Kornheiser do a local radio show? Do that many people that listen to him, or who have listened to him over the years, really take everything he says seriously?

I used to listen to him regularly but no longer do because of time conflicts but I honestly don't know anyone that listens to his show.

And of those that do listen, the people who comment in discussion threads, usually have an understanding of his show. I can't believe that this has blown so much out of proportion. So much for the internet... blogs... chat rooms... etc.

xminusone@gmail.com

Posted by: Dungarees | March 19, 2010 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Would you still find it funny if someone actually took TK by his word and ran some cyclist off the road, injuring or killing him? If yes, then you're one of the sickos I'm worried about every time my kids go on a bike ride.

Posted by: ingrid3 | March 19, 2010 5:23 PM | Report abuse

Would it still be "schtick" if he said "I'm not saying you should kill black people, just tap them a little bit with your car"?

Whether he's "joking" or not, and whether you're a cyclist or not, it's not funny. Just like it's not funny if you substitute, say, Jews, or pregnant women, or dogs, etc for the target of "running over".

And frankly, Dan, it's your responsibility to call Kornheiser out on this one. What if he said "Dan Steinberg's kids ought to be run over, maybe not killed, but bumped a little"? You'd be pissed - whether you'd admit or not - and you'd probably file a police report, and you'd probably want to confront the guy.

Advocating violence is funny, no?

Posted by: aberry1 | March 19, 2010 5:45 PM | Report abuse

Kornheiser has worn out this cranky schtick. He stopped being funny or having anything interesting to say years ago. He ought to just retire.

Posted by: pjkiger1 | March 19, 2010 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Maybe cyclists should spend more time obeying traffic laws and less time whining about jokes. See, the way it works is, when there's a red light (or a stop sign), you should come to a complete stop. Too many bikers (especially in downtown DC) ignore traffic basics. If you choose to not stop at a stoplight, you deserve to get splattered by the oncoming garbage truck.

Posted by: panthro | March 19, 2010 6:21 PM | Report abuse

The other stupid thing is Kornheiser's complaint suggesting that cyclists should not be on the road. That is actually where they belong -- not on the sidewalk running down pedestrians. What an idiot. The only regret is that this dust-up will make him more popular.

Posted by: ddeitch3 | March 19, 2010 6:22 PM | Report abuse

Just as long as everyone on the road knows the laws and obey them, I will be happy. As for TK, he thinks he is funny.


Not his only mistake.

Posted by: GaryEMasters | March 19, 2010 7:03 PM | Report abuse

He was dead serious about Farhi. And TK hasn't written for WaPo in years, why is he still treated as if he were still on the paper?

Posted by: gbooksdc | March 19, 2010 7:05 PM | Report abuse

I'd rather listen to Tony over Lance any day.

Posted by: rjma1 | March 19, 2010 7:44 PM | Report abuse

Wow: That's a lot to wade through. My 2 cents. TK is just cashing the checks, hasn't been a decent sports journalist in many a year. As to bikes, be kind, as to riders, be smart. As to LA, time to find something new to do, rather than tweet.

Posted by: drc231 | March 19, 2010 8:12 PM | Report abuse

j_s_nightingale: "Well ShaunSherman in the first place the 35 limit is a designated safe maximum speed, not an entitlement; the inevitable traffic light just down the road will hold you up far longer than the cyclist; and most motorists honor the 35 speed limit by driving 45 anyway. Check MD 117 Clopper Road as a datapoint every morning or evening if you want proof."

Really? So driving any damn speed you want to is legal and acceptable? Throwing up arbitrary "45 in a 35" or "inevitable traffic light just down the road" quotes doesn't prove anything. Bikers keep claiming they have the rights of the road, but apparently not the responsibility of ensuring an orderly flow of traffic; Drivers need to safely pass them (whist likely driving over a double yellow line to do so); Drivers need to be more patient and wait behind them (whilst risking a ticket for driving too slow).

Arizona law (ARS 28-704) makes it illegal to drive a motor vehicle at such a slow speed as to block the normal and reasonable flow of traffic on any street.In addition, this law allows local authorities to set minimum speed limits for their streets and highways. The law then makes it illegal to drive at a speed less than the minimum posted speed. Minimum speeds are often found on major highways designed for fast moving travel. Interestingly, this law also requires that a vehicle being driven at a speed less than the normal rate of traffic on a two-lane road, where passing is unsafe, must pull over at the next safe 'turn-out' spot and let other traffic go by whenever five or more vehicles are backed up behind it.


j_s_nightingale: "In the second place, when I am on the bike and passed by a vehicle it is almost never just one vehicle passing me, it is a whole fleet: and it is clear here that the cyclist is not the party responsible for "holding up" the 2nd to Nth vehicles in that line."

That doesn't even make sense. Who's holding up cars 2 through N? Car 1? The car that is stuck behind you, the cyclist? How is Car 1 responsible for impeding the orderly flow of traffic for cars 2 through N again, when they're stuck behind you?


And for DadRyan: "People don't cross country ski to work every day @$$ Hole." Why does it matter where the cyclists or cross country skiers are headed? Why does it matter if they're going to work? Are you making the point that threatening to shoot cross country skiers is irrelevant, b/c the number of cross country skiers heading to work is so minuscule? So now its a numbers game, majority rules? Yet the rights of cyclists, heavily outnumbered by motorists, must be respected?

Cross country skiers pay taxes too. So do pedestrians...and dog walkers...and moped riders...and segue riders...and razor scooter riders...some of them on the way to work, and in the case of the dog walker, perhaps AT work. Should we get the laws changed so we can share the road with them?

Posted by: redskins2199 | March 19, 2010 8:19 PM | Report abuse

I don't bike but even jokingly advocating tapping a biker with a car is just plain fing stupid. For every 99 people who hear Tony and just laugh it off there is one loser who takes him seriously. And it's just as stupid to take his side because you are within his Post orbit. Grow a pair of cojones and disagree with Tony.

Btw who he really should railing about are the dumbasses who RUN on the road instead of the sidewalk. Now THEY'VE got other options...

Posted by: hyperbanana | March 19, 2010 9:23 PM | Report abuse

The discussion between Lance Armstrong and Tony Kornheiser today was excellent--a demonstration of civility, decency, and reason.

Now the question is whether Dan Steinberg can demonstrate the same. Armstrong and Kornheiser bemoaned the existence of followers who, when they say jump, ask how high. They must have been talking about Steinberg. How about it, Steinberg, are you ready to admit you were wrong and that you need to bring more civility, decency, and reason in your life?

Posted by: WhitakerS | March 19, 2010 9:41 PM | Report abuse

Yeah punk I know Lancie boy mountain bikes but i would have no problem taking is self righteous punk ass out with a shift kick.

Anyone who wouldn't just wham, bam thank you maam the annoying Sheryl Crow deserves it.

Have the French started to take hair samples yet for drug testing?

You don't pick on TK in this town if you don't live here and you have to live here for 10 years. And Wilbon is the best sports columnist and newspaper columnist in the country.

Steinberg is almost as annoying as Lancie. I hear Steinberg models spandex bondage wear for his wifey. Dan remember real hand cuffs leave marks.

Make a bike commuters day steal their bike seat.

Posted by: sheepherder | March 19, 2010 9:52 PM | Report abuse

I'm with Lance. Kornheiser's comments are not funny. They're arrogant. Your defense of him is not funny. It's arrogant.

This is why Washington Post circulation (and many others) keeps falling.

This is why Kornheiser's passion is PTI, where the dollars are.

Lance is right. Bicycling is a good thing.

You and Tony are wrong and you're a jerk for defending.

Posted by: eman2 | March 19, 2010 10:24 PM | Report abuse

Is Georgetown gridlocked every afternoon because of bikes? Is Georgia Avenue bumper to bumper because of bikes? NO. But how convenient to take out one's aggressions on a cyclist.
Kornheiser is a huge jerk and so is any alleged sports columnist who would defend him. The number of posts here encouraging people to harm cyclists or steal their seats are proof that Kornheiser's and Steinberg's incivility only serves to goad encourage drivers to look for someone to blame for their frustrations. When we're talking about inciting people to commit assault with a deadly weapon it is not a joke and decidedly not funny.

Posted by: 60bike | March 21, 2010 2:11 PM | Report abuse

"But no, the people will not chill out. The people are angry, and so Kornheiser's biking comments spread to 17 zillion blogs -- including some British site which argued that "It's not funny to ride cyclists off the road - they will be seriously injured and may die" -- until finally getting the attention of Lance Armstrong, the Biker in Chief, who was not amused."

Dan- The reason we are not "amused" is because crap like this hits close to home. Do a survey sometime. I think you'll find that just about every cyclist has, at some point, had a negative encounter with a driver. Said encounters can range from being honked/yelled at, to having trash/bottles thrown at you, to TK's "tapping".

Care to see the effects of such "tapping"?-
http://la.streetsblog.org/2008/07/08/july-4th-road-rage-crash-grabs-police-and-media-attention/

That fluid on the trunk of the car- blood from the cyclist. The driver cut in front of and then jammed his breaks on ("tapping" if you will). The cyclist, with absolutely no room to stop, went head first into his rear window. You can also see the photo's of the emergency patch job they did in attempt to temporarily re-attach the cyclists nose. Not pretty, is it? BTW said driver was a EMERGENCY ROOM DOCTOR who evidently had a history of road rage with cyclists. 5 years in the slammer and a permanent felony record his fate.

Posted by: hawk1009 | March 23, 2010 2:24 PM | Report abuse

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