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Local Poll Week XIV: Maryland's Return


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On Nov. 23, the fourth and possibly final season of the Atlantic 11 began with Maryland in first place. The next week, Georgetown ascended to the top spot, and the Hoyas have remained there ever since, at times as a nearly unanimous selection. Until now.

These results were compiled before the Hoyas lost to West Virginia. Sure, the official pollsters still label the Hoyas the best team in the DMV, but if you've been following the two teams all season, that seems like a nearly impossible argument by this point. So, congrats, Gary. I know this has been a long time coming. More notes.

* Richmond went 0-1 and moved up in the rankings to third. That's gotta be a first.

* Virginia Tech's losing skid sent the Hokies tumbling to No. 5 in the rankings. And Virginia fell all the way to No. 11. The Virginia-based CAA teams, meanwhile, continued to switch spots in the poll's jiggly underbelly. Besides JMU. Also, not sure whether Radford will ever get another shot at this here poll, but for the record, the Highlanders are 18-11, with a 27-point win over George Mason on their resume.

* Georgetown fell to 19th in the AP and 20th in the coaches' poll, and that was before losing to West Virginia. Maryland comes back in at 22nd/23rd. Richmond is 27th/31nd. Virginia Tech is 34th/32nd. The area continues to dominate in the area of likely 6-9 seeds.

* As I type, Georgetown slipped another spot to 13th in RPI, but remains the best in the area. Maryland had a huge leap up to 25th. Richmond remained fairly steady at 28th. Old Dominion inched up to 38th. Virginia Tech dropped eight spots to 52nd, William & Mary dropped 11 spots to 59th, and VCU inched down to 65th. Virginia is at the bottom of the RPI ocean somewhere.

* Current NCAA tourney projection: still six teams (Georgetown, Maryland, Virginia Tech, Richmond, Morgan State, CAA champion, though Tech is obviously hanging by a Seth Greenberg receded hair). Four of the top five CAA seeds are from Virginia, so I still assume that league's champ will represent the Commonwealth.

Here are the totals. We have team, record (through Sunday's games), points and first-place votes. Last week's standings are found below.

1. Maryland (21-7) 549 (35)
--Next: Wednesday vs. Duke, Saturday at No. 11 Virginia.
--Considering how much Greivis Vasquez seems to enjoy getting yelled at, I'm surprised he's not married already. (John Albers)

2. Georgetown (19-8) 517 (20)
--Next: Monday at West Virginia, Saturday vs. Cincinnati.
--It could be worse. They could have lost to Notre Dame in football. (Max Wasserman)

3. Richmond (22-7) 435 (2)
--Next: Thursday vs. Dayton, Saturday at Charlotte.
--The Spiders's Kevin Smith has really been playing well since Southwest Airlines kicked him off that airplane for being too fat. (Ivan Snyder)

4. Old Dominion (23-8) 382 (1)
--Next: Saturday, CAA quarterfinals.
--With 23 straight wins at the Constant Convocation Center, the Monarchs are almost as unbeatable there as they are at McDonough Gymnasium. (Lacy Lusk)

5. Virginia Tech (21-7) 371
--Next: Wednesday vs. N.C. State, Saturday at Georgia Tech.
--But the beer is ok, right? (Devin Perry)

6. VCU (20-8) 239
--Next: Friday vs. Delaware, CAA first round.
--The Rams traded buckets down the stretch with Old Dominion until both teams decided to just keep their own respective buckets. (John Albers)

7. William & Mary (20-9) 229
--Next: Saturday, CAA quarterfinals.
--If I call David Schneider's 22 points on 25 shots in the Tribe's loss to Towson horrifying, will you suspend me for two weeks from Atlantic 11 voting. (Jack Lambert)

8. George Mason (17-13) 122
--Next: Saturday, CAA quarterfinals.
--Next up is the CAA Tournament, which is sponsored by the Virginia 529 Savings Plan. What was the back-up plan if that fell through -- the Weenie Beenie in Shirlington? (Markus Videnieks)

9. George Washington (16-11) 91
--Next: Wednesday vs. St. Joseph's, Saturday at Temple.
--Colonials making plans to hang 2010 Atlantic 10 Tournament Appearance banner in the Smith Center. (Scott Allen)

10. Morgan State (22-9) 90
--Next: Monday vs. North Carolina A&T, Thursday vs. Coppin State.
--But seriously, have you seen Virginia lately? (Brendan Darr)

11. Virginia (14-13) 75
--Next: Wednesday at Boston College, Saturday vs. No. 1 Maryland.
--Tony Bennett's squad must be giving up winning for Lent this year. (Matt Holohan)

Also receiving votes: Radford 36, American 13, Mount St. Mary's 10, James Madison 9, Navy 4, Towson 3, VMI 1.

Last week's rankings
1. Georgetown
2. Maryland
3. Virginia Tech
4. Richmond
5. Old Dominion
6. William & Mary
7. VCU
8. Virginia
9. George Mason
10. Morgan State
11. George Washington

Additional Pith

Maryland

Finally, a week with an undisputed No. 1. Barno can breathe a sigh of relief. (Jamie Jones)

Greivis Vasquez becomes first 2,000 point/2,000 jersey-pop player in ACC history. (Gerald O'Hara)

Greivis Vasquez reportedly offered to help Virginia Tech officials mop up the mess from the water main breaks outside of Cassell Coliseum on Saturday. (Scott Allen)

Georgetown

In Like a Lamb, Out Like a Lamb: The recent history of Georgetown basketball in March. (John Albers)

Hoyas have lost four of their last five, begging the age-old question, if a highly-rated big man fails to lead his team to the Sweet 16, will his head coach receive the same criticism a certain red-faced, sweaty man received just a year ago? (Gary Williams)

Struggling a bit, but still beat Duke, which even Maryland's football team can't say this year. (Jamie Paquette)

The Hoyas playing without Austin Freeman is like the Atlantic 11 without Bill Fitzgerald. (Jamie Jones)

Someone needs to tell John Thompson III that a No. 1 ranking in the Atlantic 11 has no bearing on NCAA tournament seeding. (Devin Perry)

Not only did Syracuse beat Georgetown, to add insult to injury, they passed D.C. in yearly snowfall total, too. (Jamie Jones)

Richmond

Canadian forward Francis-Cedric Martel only averages 2.6 points per game, but he knows way more about curling than anyone else on the team. (Markus Videnieks)

Virginia Tech

Time for some Amazing Carnac. Answer: "A pipe base, a tournament case and the blood vessels in Gary Williams face." Question: "What are three things that burst in Blacksburg this weekend? (Jack Lambert)

So a truck full of Bud Light crashes into a fire hydrant, thus rendering the toilets all over a major campus unflushable and putting a huge game in question. My question is this -- when that becomes the basis of a Super Bowl ad next year, does the dummy who drove the truck get royalties? (Markus Videnieks)

Chanting "U-S-A" and losing in overtime not just for American Hockey fans this weekend. (John Albers)

Congrats, Hokie fans, you ripped off a racist cheer from N.C. State. You can't sink lower than that. (Joey Flyntz)

Tech fans now realize why Coach Greenberg has been such a proponent for expanding the tourney. (Jamie Jones)

Seth Greenberg now starting to regret decision to turn down BracketBusters invitation. (Ted Gotsch)

Seth Greenberg is pulling out his hair trying to reconcile the fact that VT's worst loss is at UNC, and yet the Hokies are still on the bubble. (Markus Videnieks)

VCU

Rams press release compares head coach Shaka Smart's win over former mentor and Akron coach Keith Dambrot to Daniel LaRusso defeating Mr. Miyagi. No, really. (Scott Allen)

VCU has a home-court advantage for the CAA tournament, giving their students a chance to say goodbye to Larry Sanders and a chance to maybe spend three consecutive nights in Richmond without commuting home. (Jack Lambert)

Missed out on a CAA bye for the first time since Eric Maynor's Freshman year, which was roughly about 1997. (Jake Leffler)

William & Mary

Every Monday morning at 6 a.m., my alarm goes goes off to the strains of Sonny & Cher's "I Got You Babe," I look outside to see a snow-covered landscape and I log on to my computer to check and see if William & Mary have announced their mascot. And they never do. (John Albers)

Just switch your masoct already so we can make new jokes. (Markus Videnieks)

William & Mary last won 20 games in 1997. Incidentally, that's also the last time the Tribe's athletics website was redesigned. (Scott Allen)

George Mason

I'm not sure who's fared worse in 2010: the CAA in BracketBusters or the Democrats in pretty much everything. (Jamie Paquette)

Did Northeastern guard Chaisson Allen write Duke on his chest before that late whistle? (Devin Perry)

George Washington

In the ultimate of ironies, finishing at the bottom in the Atlantic-10 conference is rewarded with not having to go to Atlantic City. (Max Wasserman)

Morgan State

Todd Bozeman is longing for the days when he coached in a cupcake conference like the Pac-10. (John Albers)

Just wait until the birthers see that Morgan State's recent opponent, UMES, has a backup center from Africa named Freddy Obame Obame. (Markus Videnieks)

Todd Bozeman faced off against an old friend last Saturday night. No, it wasn't a ham sandwich. (John Albers)

Beat Norfolk State in last week's Atlantic 11 Double Overtime game that didn't involve unflushable toilets. (Markus Videnieks)

The U.S. would be a lot more fun if we had an actual state named "Murray." (Jamie Paquette)

Another week of wins, another chance to read a "Todd Bozeman to every college job in america" story. (Jamie Jones)

Virginia

LOL. (Joey Flyntz)

When it comes to downhill speed, Lindsey Vonn has nothing on Cavaliers. (Scott Allen)

Not sure if any of the Cavaliers remaining games are worthy of being shown on ESPN360. (John Albers)

Well that was a fun two weeks of following the Olympics. Back to college basketball. I'm sure not much has changed with the Cavs at the top of the ACC, right? (Max Wasserman)

Fans liked this team a lot more when their games were getting snowed out. (Jamie Jones)

They are who we thought they were! (Markus Videnieks)

Signs your basketball team is in trouble: Your lacrosse team is scoring more points per game. (Jamie Jones)

My girlfriend thinks Tony Bennett is dreamy. Better him than Jim Larranaga I suppose. (Scott Allen)

The snow is melting.
Disappearing like Cav hopes.
It's time for Foxfield. (Laurence Reszetar)

Radford

Creeping up on relevance like Jay Mariotti at a Super Bowl Party. (Jamie Paquette)

The Highlanders have won seven of their last eight, surpassing "Rest Area reopened" as the No. 1 topic around town. (Jamie Jones)

Art Parakhouski took the nation's lead in double-doubles. Does that help Belarus's medal count at all? (Lacy Lusk)

You have to wonder what Art Parakhouski thinks about America after spending the majority of his time in Idaho and Blacksburg. (Devin Perry)

In an effort to aid their rise in the polls, one player was quoted postgame as saying, "I am Connor MacLeod of the Clan MacLeod. I was born in 1518 in the village of Glenfinnan on the shores of Loch Shiel. And I am immortal." Wait, that's the wrong Highlander? (Will Prunka)

By Dan Steinberg  |  March 1, 2010; 6:54 PM ET
Categories:  Atlantic 11 , College Basketball  
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Comments

Good pith, gents. Good pith.

Posted by: Kev29 | March 1, 2010 9:30 PM | Report abuse

Terps are #1 (ugh)... Barno - you may have the floor.

Posted by: EShine | March 1, 2010 9:44 PM | Report abuse

At least Tech is in the correct position (or at least a more believable position). How can Tech gain ground by losing 2 bad games in a week? It makes no sense.

Posted by: Randy_Hawkins | March 1, 2010 11:40 PM | Report abuse

Virginia Tech, Virginia, Morgan State, Radford, VCU, Richmond, Old Dominion and William and Mary are not "LOCAL SCHOOLS"!!!

Local schools are Maryland, AU, GW, Howard, Georgetown, George Mason, Navy and Galludet!!!

The Post is more concerned about circulation than journalistic accuracy? What a suprise! Give some pub to the schools that are "LOCAL"!

Posted by: sbf845 | March 2, 2010 8:58 AM | Report abuse

Virginia Tech, Virginia, Morgan State, Radford, VCU, Richmond, Old Dominion and William and Mary are not "LOCAL SCHOOLS"!!!

Local schools are Maryland, AU, GW, Howard, Georgetown, George Mason, Navy and Galludet!!!

The Post is more concerned about circulation than journalistic accuracy? What a suprise! Give some pub to the schools that are "LOCAL"!

Posted by: sbf845 | March 2, 2010 8:58 AM

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Are you new here?

Also, are you offended by intense journalistic pieces about the color of shoe laces or basketball players chewing on straws? You may want to go to a different blog, then.

Posted by: M__N | March 2, 2010 9:49 AM | Report abuse

Barno, your argument about the hoyas vs the terps doesnt have much legs.

Posted by: jpfterps | February 23, 2010 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Barno1 | March 2, 2010 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Barno you clearly don't watch college basketball so please stop commenting on it.

Posted by: paranoya | February 23, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

These results were compiled before the Hoyas lost to West Virginia. Sure, the official pollsters still label the Hoyas the best team in the DMV, but if you've been following the two teams all season, that seems like a nearly impossible argument by this point. So, congrats, Gary.

By Dan Steinberg | March 1, 2010; 6:54 PM ET

Seems one of us has been following both teams all season, and it isn't you Paranoya

Posted by: Barno1 | March 2, 2010 1:22 PM | Report abuse

My God Barno, even by the standards of internet trolls you are an incredible imbecile.

There's no "fascination" with Georgetown. They have some very good wins and some bad losses - though no losses as bad as Maryland's home loss to W&M, which has been proven to be pretty weak in the CAA this year. They are talented enough to go deep into the tourney, and inconsistent enough to lose early as well. In any case, their resume is much, much, much better than Maryland's at this point, and if you don't see that, then you're simply dim.

That said, Maryland is playing much better than earlier in the season and credit definitely goes to Gary and Greivis. Why not enjoy that instead of letting your jealousy of the Georgetown program shine through?

Posted by: thediesel | February 23, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Jealousy of Gtown? You mean jealousy of a program I root for? How does that make any sense.

Funny how all I said was Gtown is overrated that shouldn't still be in the top 10, and MD is underrated--and the response was some pretty absurd attacks about me being an imbecile who has not following these teams. Well...turns out one of us was right and it wasn't you, thediesel.

Posted by: Barno1 | March 2, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

as much as your Terps fan heart would like it to entirely erase an entire season's worth of results, it does not.

Maryland's resume is so far inferior to Georgetown's at this point. Only a fool or an ignoramus (or both) would not admit to that.

Posted by: thediesel | February 23, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Hahahahahah!!! No need for me to add any additional comment... I'll just let your own words speak for themselves here.

Posted by: Barno1 | March 2, 2010 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Barno, MD isn't ranked because they have beaten absolutely no one and the ACC is a Crap-fest this year. That's the only reason. It's the same reason VT isn't ranked despite our 21. It's really not that hard to understand, and you are (shocker) arguing for the sake of arguing.

Posted by: VTDuffman | February 24, 2010 8:35 AM | Report abuse

Hilarious!!! So......How'd you like them apples in Blacksburg VTDuffman? Was it you that goofed up driving the Duff beer truck that crashed into the fire hydrant causing that water main break that delayed the game? If so, good work pal...

Posted by: Barno1 | March 2, 2010 1:29 PM | Report abuse

All this discussion makes me laugh. Georgetown has had one heck of a year with a brutal loss to Rutgers, who they likely overlooked. Everyone has a bad game or two. They are clearly the best team in the area for a host of reasons.

Meanwhile...Terps fans are doing what they normally do this time of year - hyping up their conference, but minimizing the fact they they play a cupcake schedule year in and year out. Trust me, Gary didnt schedule W&M because he thought they were a tough opponent - they were horrible last year (they finished 10th in the CAA). Luckily for you, the NCAA is thin this year, so you'll get to slide in and we won't have to hear any whining about how you got hosed again.

Posted by: EShine | February 24, 2010 11:37 AM | Report abuse

More hilarity.

Posted by: Barno1 | March 2, 2010 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Good for Barno, my comment from last week was wrong. Right now, especially with Freeman out, you got to say UMD is the better team.

Gary coaches for March, not November. I always try to remind people that.

Also, where is follybeach? I remember some pretty big boasting about the castrated turkeys last week.

Posted by: jpfterps | March 2, 2010 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Jfp, Freeman wasn't out this weekend, when this poll was taken. Just saying.

Barring a deep run into the Big East tourney or a major collapse by MD, I predict Maryland will get a higher seed in the NCAAs than Gtown.

Posted by: Barno1 | March 2, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

freeman barely played in the ND game. know-it-all

Posted by: jpfterps | March 2, 2010 10:35 PM | Report abuse

wtf? Aren't the "Atlantic 11" supposed to be local teams? Nice to see that the Terps are first over G'town, but where the hell did ODU, VCU and Richmond come from? Are there no newspapers in Virginia? Why not go ahead and include Villanova, Penn State, Rutgers, Loyola, UM Eastern Shore, and Delaware? I know many confused people in the area see middle-of-nowhere VT as "local," but this is ridiculous.

New York City (and the many schools betweeen here and there) is closer to DC than B'burg! Just because Virginia is a Southern state with an obsession for college fball and nothing else, doesn't mean the WaPo needs to step in. Nobody cares about those schools!

Please, let's stick to the plenty of DI schools within an hour's radius: Maryland, GWU, American, Howard, Georgetown, UMBC, Towson, Morgan St., Coppin St., JH (lacrosse), Loyola, Navy, and GMU (see here's a school in VA). Reasonable right? Thanks.

Posted by: TheMarylander | March 2, 2010 11:37 PM | Report abuse

First of all. For you knuckleheads pissing about RU, VT, Richmond and other being included in this poll. Where the hell have you been? This poll has been around for years and you are just now complaining?

The Post is doing what they should. Covering the teams that the people who read their paper want them to cover.

Second, RU will hopefully get back to being ranked after they win their second straight conference title this weekend.

Posted by: SkinsOsHokies | March 3, 2010 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Oh, and to Devin Perry. Radford is not in Blacksburg. Its as much in Blacksburg as Manassas is in Alexandria.

Posted by: SkinsOsHokies | March 3, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

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