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About the Caps fan base

Since my job is now apparently to write about things that Michael Wilbon writes, let me try this again. The first question in Wilbon's chat on Monday was about whether the Caps' first-round loss to the Canadiens was the biggest disappointment in D.C. sports history. Wilbon laughed his head off at the very notion, and I guess I'd agree that no first-round loss could ever compare to, say, a Super Bowl loss, or a loss in the NBA finals, even bearing in mind the Caps' 3-1 series lead and regular-season dominance.

But, as big-city columnists are wont to do, Wilbon also used this as an opportunity to minimize the local NHL club's fan base:

Look, metropolitan Washington has a ton of new hockey fans, Capitals fans really, which is fabulous. It's great to have a team that inspires that kind of passion locally...but the Capitals aren't the Redskins when it comes to the size of the fanbase, or even the Bullets/Wizards even though it is now fashionable (and legit) to trash the product that's been on the floor. The Capitals don't even have (yet) the fanbase of Maryland basketball locally.

So let's not get carried away. Most Capitals could walk down Connecticut Ave. and have very, very few if any people recognize them. The Capitals losing, while jolting in a context appreciated by sports nuts and sports media folks, isn't close to the disappointment of a Redskins loss in the playoffs, or a crushing loss in the regular season to the Cowboys or Eagles or Giants. Not close. Not even close to close....

A still relatively small number of people in the D.C. area follow professional hockey. It's a community made up of people from places and culture where hockey simply isn't on the radar.

Now, Wilbon's probably closer to correct about all this than a lot of Caps fans would like to believe. You can't even mention the Redskins in this mix; that's comparing apples to genetically mutated 1,300-pound radioactive carrots. And like a lot of other folks, I do believe that if the Wizards and Caps enjoyed equal success, the Wizards would rank considerably higher in region-wide interest.

But the fact is, the teams do not enjoy equal success. And if you're going to consider hypotheticals, you might as well be comparing the Caps' current fan base to the theoretical fan base attracted to D.C.'s pro rugby team after capturing the international Pioneers Cup in 2061. It's pointless.

If, on the other hand, you're going to say the Caps don't have the current fan base of the Wizards or Maryland basketball, you can really only compare the fan bases at this moment. So here's what I've got.

TV Ratings

The Caps averaged a 1.6 rating for their 72 games on CSN and CSN+ this season, according to Nielsen data. The Wizards averaged a 1.18 for games on those same networks. CSN aired four Maryland ACC basketball games, which, according to Nielsen data, averaged about a 1.2 rating in the Washington market.

The only caveat: I'm not sure whether those Terps game also aired nationally in this market, in which case the number would certainly rise. Then again, the Terps play far fewer televised games, which would make you think each individual game would attract a higher proportion of diehard fans.


Over 41 home games, the Caps attracted 749,357 fans, for an average of 18,277. Capacity is 18,277.

Over 41 home games, the Wizards attracted 664,398 fans, for an average of 16,204. Capacity is 20,173.

Over 16 home games, Maryland men's basketball attracted 268,673 fans, for an average of 16,792. Capacity is 17,950.

Web traffic

This is far, far, far, far from a perfect measure. For one thing, I only have access to page views, not unique users, which is the number you'd really care about in measuring a fan base's size. Also, there's probably more competition for Maryland men's basketball eyeballs, with multiple fan sites and the Baltimore Sun all running extensive coverage.

Still, I'm trying to come up with as many measures I can. And so I looked at the traffic for our relevant blogs for two days: the day before the last game of their 2010 season, and the day of the last game of their 2010 season. And I can't provide exact numbers, for competitive reasons.

Capitals Insider, obviously, finished first over its closing days. (This was a Tuesday and a Wednesday in April.)

Wizards Insider had 10.5 percent of the traffic of the Caps Insider on its closing days. (Also on a Tuesday and a Wednesday in April.)

Terrapins Insider....well, the comparison is no good, because the team's finale was on a Sunday. So I'll give them credit for the final four days: Thursday, Friday (first-round win), Saturday and Sunday (final game). Even so, Terps Insider, over its four closing days, had just 30.6 percent of the traffic of the Caps Insider on the final two days of the Caps season. (In fact, on each of these final four days, Terps Insider traffic was behind Caps Insider in traffic, despite the fact that the Caps were weeks from the playoffs.)

Fan surveys

This includes just the pro teams, not the college teams, so it's useless for the Terps. But a Washington Post poll of area residents this conducted in March asked which was their favorite pro team. The Redskins finished first with 31 percent, followed by the Caps (13), Nats (8), Wizards (5) and D.C. United (5). Thirty-two percent of area residents said they didn't have a preference.


Each of these measurements has problems. None are perfect. And it's impossible to ignore the fact that the Wizards are among the most wretched on-court products in the NBA, while the Caps are among the best in the NHL.

But again, we're talking about the size of the fan base in the here and now. My distinguished colleague said the Caps don't have the fan base that the Wizards do. Considering the Caps have higher TV ratings, higher attendance, higher Web traffic for relevant journalism, and the allegiance of more area residents, I'd say that's a tricky argument to make.

By Dan Steinberg  |  May 4, 2010; 1:49 PM ET
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Wilbon, as he is wont to do, has skewed the question and answered a different one entirely.

The "biggest disappointment" question should be framed as: given a fan who has equal passion for all DC sports teams (imagine that!), does this loss hurt more than any other? Probably yes.

But Wilbon wants to answer the "if you took a sum total of disappointed feelings spread across the region of DC if an equivalent loss were to happen in other sports, where would the Caps' loss rank?" That's not even close to the same question. He isn't really even answering the question at all. He is merely re-hashing the "hockey is not as popular as other sports" argument in a new form.

Posted by: ThisGuy | May 4, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse


Thats a lot of data and some interesting research, though I agree a tricky argument to make. Shocker Wilbon made his argument based on his perception, not reality, which is skewed by the fact he loves to remind everybody about his golfing and lavish dinners in and around his Arizona.

I hope you earned a "Cheeseboy" comment or two on PTI this week.

Posted by: WaPoLiveFan16 | May 4, 2010 2:13 PM | Report abuse

"Considering the Caps have higher TV ratings, higher attendance, higher Web traffic for relevant journalism, and the allegiance of more area residents, I'd say that's a tricky argument to make."

Why should Wilbon let the facts stand in his way? He's the same guy who stuck to his Sean Taylor stance... ["Taylor grew up in a violent world, embraced it, claimed it, loved to run in it and refused to divorce himself from it"] even after the facts proved him wrong.

Posted by: 4-12 | May 4, 2010 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Good stuff as always Dan.

Posted by: SombreroGuy | May 4, 2010 2:15 PM | Report abuse

Still trying to get famous off of Wilbon huh Steinz? I love hockey and I'm not sure why fans feel the need to defend it to the death. The NFL & NBA are bigger than the NHL. But, it's our sport, it's not going anywhere. It will grow as WE grow it.

Wilbon is great entertainment. Whether its PTI, or Washington Post. Just read Wilbon for what it is.

Posted by: YankeeVic | May 4, 2010 2:20 PM | Report abuse

I'd be curious to know if the poll asked fans who their second- and third-favorite teams were. If so, I would expect to see the Wizards score a little better. It's anecdotal, but I imagine they would rate well with the plurality of fans who chose the Redskins as their favorite team.

Posted by: Rangwx1 | May 4, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Does Wilbon carry his identity papers in his manpurse, and does carrying a manpurse qualify as probable cause in Arizona?

Posted by: rdpinva | May 4, 2010 2:25 PM | Report abuse

"But a Washington Post poll of area residents this conducted in March asked which was their favorite pro team. The Redskins finished first with 31 percent, followed by the Caps (13), Nats (8), Wizards (5) and D.C. United (5)." long till the treks to Ashburn resume?

Posted by: Section117 | May 4, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Wilbon is a complete sports idiot unless discussing basketball. Yes, he likes to trump out his "I grew up in a place where hockey was fashionable" stories. But I also recall him making a huge case recently for the fact that he didn't have "time" for hockey. But when he wants to write about it, he becomes an instant expert. Imagine that?

See Wilbon, the thing is, maybe you grew up with it some 40 years ago, but you need to understand that Gordie and Bobby don't play anymore. It's a different game, and if you had "time", you'd know it and wouldn't continue to make a complete ass of yourself, repeatedly (though it is quite funny).

Thanks again Dan, you rock!

Posted by: soloman5000 | May 4, 2010 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Ummmmm. Why do we keep talking about Wilbon. He is worthless when it comes to hockey..

Thanks for bashing him though Steiney..... You da man......

Posted by: CF11555 | May 4, 2010 2:38 PM | Report abuse

I like the numbers Dan, and while those stats indicate that the size Caps fanbase is very close to (maybe even surpassed) the size Wizards and MD Basketball fanbases, there are still so many variables that are immeasurable.

Socioeconomic status immediately comes to mind. While I'm generalizing greatly here and have no evidence to back this notion up, I believe that among those who do not have regular access to the internet, cable TV, or game tickets, there are more Wizards fans than Caps fans.

Posted by: MillBurray | May 4, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

You tell 'em Dan! At least someone in this town is sticking to the facts and presenting them in a fair and balanced way. After a-hole Wilbon trashed Ovie the first time, I stopped reading his columns or watching the whiny PTI. Now after his recent barrage of trash against the home team Capitals, I have also cancelled my 7 day home delivery of the Post which I have had for 12 years! Way to go Wilbon, keep alienating local fans and readers!!

Posted by: larmur57 | May 4, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Hockey frightens Wilbon. He knows it is in a growth stage at the same time Basketball - particularly NBA Basketball - is declining. The problem is he doesn't understand hockey. He follows it only so much as to be able to capture readers/viewers interest for moments at a time. Because he knows he doesn't get it, he uses strong but very general language to illicit reaction. But he doesn't really attack any subject in depth. The Ovechkin business is nothing more than a set of generalized opinions based on indisputable facts regarding medals and championships. Ovechkin isn't in Crosby's league because his team hasn't won. Okay, but that really doesn't address any substantive issues does it? It's nothing more than a polarizing opinion masked as a fact. Hockey teams win championships - not hockey players. Crosby wasn't the MVP of his team during last year's playoffs. Malkin was. Max Talbot was more important in the biggest game of the series. Are they better than Crosby? When put to legitimate tests, Wilbon's "argument" doesn't hold water. When stated as an opinion it is what it is. Crosby had a great year and in my opinion deserves the crown for now. But what happens if Montreal beats Pittsburgh? Is Johnathon Toewes now the best? Wilbon gets a wider audience, more web hits, more whatever simply by stating an opinion. He is going to ride this for a while because of the reaction. He's also going to continue to avoid a real analysis of hockey teams because he is incapable of doing so on anything other than a superficial level. It's poor form - but like Feinstein said - Wilbon never let the facts get in his way.

Posted by: DisgustedinArlington | May 4, 2010 3:03 PM | Report abuse

i agree with Wilbon. The fans of Washington try to give themselves too much credit for being fans. The fact is these people were nowhere near Chinatown before the NHL lockout a few years back.

Its GREAT to be a Caps fan now (I've been a season ticket holder since 1990) but lets not get carried away with the Caps taking DC by storm. The disappointment of the season just adds to the Caps legacy of never getting it done.

Its not the "Hockey Town" that the owner wants it to least not yet. I know for a fact that if the Caps weren't winnng, I'd be sitting in a half empty Verizon Center AGAIN.

Posted by: caphcky | May 4, 2010 3:10 PM | Report abuse

As the Post ads used to say, Wilbon...just doesn't get it.

Posted by: jhershb | May 4, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Wilbon's a Putz

Posted by: jerod1 | May 4, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

He Wilbon, you bug eyed, bubble lip fool, I was born and raised in DC you idiot, 40 years. I have been a hockey/Caps fan for 33 of those years, go to Chicago and stay there you hack. Just shut up! I HATE you Wilbon.

Posted by: DCFanatic | May 4, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse


You're giving too much credit to Wilbon. Yeah, you're probably right that if the Caps weren't good, you'd be sitting in a half-empty Verizon Center. And currently, the Wizards aren't good and they play in a half-empty Verizon Center. And yet Wilbon claims that the Wizards' fan base is demonstrably bigger than the Caps' fan base.

The fact is that right now the Caps are building a fan base in a way that if the Caps are good for a while and win a Cup or two, could have long-lasting effects on DC sports fans. Sure, the Caps are never going to be as popular as the Redskins (and how many cities have a non-NFL team as their most popular team, anyway?) , but if all the kids, teens and 20somethings (and there are a lot now going to Caps games) grow up in the habit of following the Caps and knowing they're a contender every year, a Caps tradition will be built. It's kind of like the Redskins tradition that was built for anyone that grew up in DC during the Allen and Gibbs years in the 70s and 80s and now are Skins fans for life.

Ovechkin is the biggest star athlete in town, 90 percent of the fans that come to games wear Caps jerseys or t-shirts to the games, kids swarm the Caps after practice during spring break. None of that is going to change after one first round loss.

Posted by: TheFingerman | May 4, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Dan - One year of stats does not constitute a fanbase. I mean, the XFL had great stats its first week.

One year is a novelty. The nonfan who happens to take a peek and then forgets about the team the next year.

A fanbase should be determined over years. It doesn't have to be many, 5-10 could do the trick. Work your interweb magic and figure those stats, then maybe you'll have something.

Until then, decent try, but probably a fail.

Posted by: popopo | May 4, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse

This is not a direct quote, but the back to back PTI segments as i remember it.
Deangelo hall-after getting into a side line scuffle in ATL " He sets a terrible example. This is irresponsible behavior attempting to instigate a situation. Deangelo Hall should be embarrassed by himself, and the leagues should take action.
Next segment Tommy Harris Bear Linebacker. They show a video clip of Harris attempting to gouge out another players eye while they are on the ground. " Well the Bears really need to shore up their defense. The past few years the D has been the identity of this team now its aging. If they are to stay competitive they need to get some fresh faces on the defense."

Again not direct quotes but this is how Wilbon rolls. If its someone elses "boys" he takes great enjoyment in trashing them. If its his "boy" (chicago teams, Northwestern) they will be sparred. I no longer watch PTI i turn off sportscenter when they do the final pti thingy. Havent cliked on one of his internet articles or read his print since that deplorable Sean Taylor article he wrote following his death.. This guy is simply the worst.

Posted by: Stu27 | May 4, 2010 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Dan -- Why do you waste your time arguing with Wilbon?
He hasn't been relevant since the late 90s. His shtick is old, his arguments are thin and often contradictory, his columns and opinions are predictable, and frankly, the DC area is tired of him. The Post should have cut him loose years ago. Bottom line, do what most of us have already done -- tuned him out and stopped reading/listening to his stuff.

Posted by: ddell | May 4, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, Steinz, you're a big boy. You really don't need to pimp Wilbon, who exposes himself as a poser every time he emits words. How a guy who hates Washington sports stays employed by the Post is beyond me, but then again, many things about your employer are beyond me. But this is about you, you, you. You just don't need to be talking about the crackheads with whom you share a cube farm.

Posted by: Landru | May 4, 2010 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Again, punkass Wilblowitoutofhisass, talks about something he's knows nothing about.

Posted by: washpostlogin | May 4, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Again, punka$$ Wilblowitoutofhisa$$, talks about something he's knows nothing about.

Posted by: washpostlogin | May 4, 2010 4:49 PM | Report abuse

As the Post ads used to say, Wilbon...just doesn't get it.

Posted by: jhershb | May 4, 2010 5:17 PM | Report abuse

The United were more popular than the Caps just a few years ago when the soccer team was winning trophies and the hockey team was picking up high draft picks.

Posted by: PowerBoater69 | May 4, 2010 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Settle down, Caps fans.

Honestly, I don't see why anyone should be so upset. If there's anything wrong with Caps fans, it's they are almost TOO eager--they to tell you, ALL THE TIME, that they are FOR REAL, that they are fans of a REAL sport, that DC is somehow a REAL hockey town.

Caps fans, I find, are hypersensitive to anything that even remotely suggests that they are not a legitimate sporting constituency in this town.

My take: just be yourselves. Rock the red. Talk hockey. Instead of wanting to be KNOWN as hockey fans, why not just BE. So Wilbon doesn't think your sport is for real--so what? Kornheiser doesn't believe in soccer, and, Lord knows, *I* don't believe in horse racing (sorry Andrew Beyer). There's enough room in my sporting universe for all of us: 'Skins fans, Nats fans, Caps fans, United fans. As far as I'm concerned, as long as they all "fight for ol' DC," I'm happy.

That said, I'm going to court controversy and say this: hockey's mass appeal in this city is always going to be limited by the fact that relatively few people actually FROM this city have any direct experience with hockey. Fortunately for the Caps, the well of hockey fandom is always refreshed by immigrants from hockey-playing cities whose passion for the game eventually finds expression in rooting for their new home team.

Posted by: ouij | May 4, 2010 8:09 PM | Report abuse

Im a big Capital fan , but i have to agree with Wilbon. he is right no matter how bad the Skins have been the following is greater a playoff lose is more devastating. i wasnt that upset with how Caps lose i dont know maybe because there such great potential in this team to win year in and year out for a while. That theses loses will be a kick in the ass to this team and fine tune some grey areas to make the team more successful. But when Skins lose a playoff game its a week or two of laying around being sad and angry . eating alot of ice cream lol. But Football changes year by year success for a long span only happens to a few teams

Posted by: cjdwolfpack | May 4, 2010 8:57 PM | Report abuse

Who is Michael Wilbon, anyway?

Posted by: hlalor | May 4, 2010 11:10 PM | Report abuse

Michael Wilbon is a dink.

Posted by: caps1974 | May 5, 2010 12:03 AM | Report abuse

You're telling me most people wouldn't recognize Ovie or Backstrom or Mike Green if they saw them on the street? Back in the glory days, I had no problem spotting a Redskin or two at our favorite watering hole. Nowadays, I wouldn't know a Redskin from a lugnut if I met one on the street, and I couldn't even name one Wizards player in the last 30 years let alone recognize one. Okay, maybe Agent Zero. The fact is, most of us probably wouldn't recognize a famous athlete or celebrity outside their natural habitat, unless we're really observant or actually looking for them in those faces on the street, so that argument doesn't hold water.

Posted by: AmyS1 | May 5, 2010 8:29 AM | Report abuse

The Wizards attendance numbers are completely bogus. I went to several games this season where the 400 level was empty. No way there were 16K plus in the building for every game.

Posted by: brihobbs | May 5, 2010 8:35 AM | Report abuse

Wilbon is a know nothing jerk. So we care what he says whY?

Posted by: poguesmahone | May 5, 2010 10:24 AM | Report abuse

Nice job Dan – very thoughtful and well said. Some thoughts:

To say that UMD basketball has eclipses the Caps is ludicrous, in my opinion. Of course, I live in Virginia and you find very few UMD fans out here; certainly nothing comparable to the Caps fanaticism (signed on cars, talk in coffee shops, etc).

I don’t buy this talk of DC being a bandwagon town – or at least being unique in this regard. I did a quick scan of attendance figures since 1989 and DC has had higher attendance than Pittsburgh 11 of those years (i.e. 9 for vice versa). So, for Pens fans to say we are bandwagon fans is extremely hypocritical. I guess if they have nothing better to say they just like to make things up.

Like someone said in your chat this week, what is up with Mr. Wilbon? He has become rude and snide in his chats in the past year. Does he not like doing the chats? Perhaps he is having some personal issue he is dealing with. Either way, he absolutely has changed -- he has gotten very angry. And I don’t mean just hockey stuff – someone (not me) awhile ago made the mistake of mentioning lacrosse – oh boy, that was a mistake.

Posted by: TheOtherGuyInSection117 | May 5, 2010 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Wilbon might know more than we think about what constitutes a paltry fan base. He is a Northwestern grad.

Posted by: brathbun1 | May 5, 2010 11:27 AM | Report abuse

That's a bad career move. Be yourself!

Posted by: 1-20-09 | May 5, 2010 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Ah, well I'd say that I'd recognize a Caps player walking down the street in a heartbeat! A Redskin could practically sit on me and I'd have no clue who they were and the same holds true for a Wizard or a Nat!

Posted by: ags38 | May 5, 2010 12:44 PM | Report abuse

CHOKING DOGS! and who cares what chicago thinks.

Posted by: lylewimbledon | May 5, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse

I have a hard time believing the wizards average over 16000 fans each game. i was at the wizards/nuggets game earlier this year (which they unbelievably actually won) and it seemed mostly empty in the 400 level. They don't even open most of the concession stands in the 400 level. if you want to buy some wizards souvenirs (who would want them?) you have to take an escalator down to the 100 level. capitals games, by contrast, are MUCH more exciting and fan-friendly. the same concession and souvenir stands that are open for caps games are closed for the wiz.

Posted by: fatdime | May 5, 2010 2:33 PM | Report abuse

A guy walks into a bar and the bartender says to the guy, What will you have?
The man repiles - I will have a Ovechkin.
The bartender replies - I don't know what that is?
The man replies - It's a tall White Russian with no cup!

Posted by: 1-20-09 | May 5, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Wilbon might be right sometimes, but his logic is almost always faulty. You know why you can recognize more football players and basketball players? Because many are freakishly heavy or tall.

Most Caps probably just fit in with the most fit people in the gym.

Posted by: makplan20002 | May 5, 2010 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Wilbon is correct in certan respects that Capitals fans are often 'new' and have only recently became close followers since Ovechkin joined the team. The fact that the Redskins are promoted 24-7 on the airwaves will always have them at the forefront. However, the reality is that the Redskins have 3 playoff appearances in nearly 20 years and the Wiz have made it out of the 1st round once. The Capitals are not a one-year wonder and will continue to gain fanbase if they are successful in the playoffs. Many on the band wagon fans would be following them more closely if they had advanced to the 2nd round which unfortunately wasn't the case.

Posted by: wizfan89 | May 5, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Come on. Wilbone didn't grow up here. He no longer writes about local teams and apparently doesn't do much for the Post any more at all. He doesn't spend much time here by all accounts since he has a home in Arizona and travels on his NBA gig. He's an NBA w h o r e. And he knows absolutely zilch about hockey. All of which means that he's a know nothing blowhard on this particular subject.

Posted by: poguesmahone | May 5, 2010 4:56 PM | Report abuse

OK. Survey question: A live NHL playoff or regular season rivalry game is...

a) Thousands times better than anything the NBA can dish up
b) Thousands times worse than anything the NBA can dish up
c) Equal to an NBA game only if LeBron and Kobe are battling it out.

I've seen my share of each. Aside from LeBron's classic Game 5 will-to-win in Detroit a few years back, I find myself walking away from the set more often during an NBA telecast than in hockey.

As for the NFL? Ugh. Far too many breaks, commercials, etc.

And live? Well, it's bad enough in the NHL nowadays with all the pumped in "make some noise" crud, but NBA games are a cacophony of non-fan generated sound, including during the run of play.

In summary, nothing beats the NHL playoffs. Pace. Toughness. Rabid fans (in most cities).

Oh well, my two cents.

Posted by: wxdancer | May 5, 2010 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Seriously, asking Wilbon about hockey is like asking Osama bin Laden about what Ben and Jerry's flavor goes best with apple pie.

Posted by: aybee27 | May 5, 2010 6:29 PM | Report abuse

"Seriously, asking Wilbon about hockey is like asking Osama bin Laden about what Ben and Jerry's flavor goes best with apple pie.

Posted by: aybee27 | May 5, 2010 6:29 PM "

Ha---this sums it up nicely.

Caps fans, don't rise to Wilbon's bait. It's meaningless.

Posted by: dccitizen1 | May 6, 2010 8:44 AM | Report abuse

Wilbons' act is getting old- I dont even read him anymore, his whole grumpy-because-he-suffers-from-idiotic-questions shtick is getting old. He LOVES to be snarky and sarcastic to anyone who dares criticize his so-called Best Friends in the World (Jordan,Tiger,McNabb,Barkley,etc etc)but defends his constant criticizing of the Caps with the usual comment, They can walk down Con Ave and not be recognized. Well, aside from Arenas, the Wizards arent exactly recognizable either, and the Nats- Zimmerman only MAYBE.
Thanks Steinz for your logical response. Wilbon is to sportswriting what Marion Barry is to local politics.

Posted by: peabody2 | May 6, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

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