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June 4 Nationals tickets moving briskly

I don't know if there's anything special happening at Nationals Park on June 4, but it appears to be a tough ticket.

Like, the Infield Gallery section, the $24 seats? You can't even get two tickets together on June 4. And yet on June 5 -- same opponent, same stadium, same weekend -- you can still get at least 12 tickets together. That's weird, right?

The Upper Infield Gallery, seats that go for $18? You can't get three tickets together on June 4. And yet on June 5 -- same opponent, same stadium, same weekend -- you can also get 12 together.

In fact, there are 28 different sections of available seats for that June 5 game. And yet for the June 4 game on Friday night, there are only 19 sections available. That means there are no offerings in the Upper Outfield Gallery ($10), the Upper Right Field Terrace ($10), the Lower Right Field Terrace ($17), the 1st Base Club ($55), the Home Infield Box ($63), the Visitor Dugout Box ($75), the PNC Diamond Club ($170), the Home Plate Box ($170) or the Lexus Presidents Club ($325).

Um, make that 18. As I was searching for 3rd Base Club seats ($55) on Monday morning, those seats suddenly disappeared off my screen. No longer available.

UPDATE: As of around 3 pm on Monday, the Nats site has now stopped listing any tickets online for the Centerfield Lounge, Infield Gallery, Outfield Gallery or Upper Infield Gallery.

Meanwhile, ads like this are already showing up on Craigslist:

I have lots of tickets for Strasburgs anticipated debut Friday, June 4th vs. the Cincinati Reds. This price is not much over face value for the most anticipated game in the history of Nationals Stadium. Seats this good are not available for this game. When it is announced that Strasburg will be starting on June 4th the price of these tickets will at least double. I can sell you as many as you want at this time for this price while they last. Please, serious inquiries only. Section 109 Rows GG-MM. Great lower level seats down left field line.

Oh, and this:

(4) club seats to see the 6/4 debut of phenom Stephen Strasburg vs. Reds!!!! Sec. 207 Row G , Aisle seating. I am sure these tix will be selling for much more closer to game day as this Will Be a Sell Out. Includes Parking Pass!

He's only asking for $600. Includes Parking Pass!

By Dan Steinberg  |  May 24, 2010; 11:40 AM ET
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Comments

You can't get two seats together in any section for the 4th.

Posted by: EdTheRed | May 24, 2010 11:59 AM | Report abuse

I bought 4 tickets to the 4th and 6 tickets on June 10th.

I am hoping it all lines up with Stephen Strasburg's 1st 2 starts.

Posted by: dmacman88 | May 24, 2010 12:10 PM | Report abuse

I'm getting a little worried. If the Nats can sell out the 4th without Strasburg pitching, then why not move his debut to the 5th or another day? Since the tickets are already sold, they'll sell more if they do not pitch him that day.

Posted by: cassander | May 24, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Word on the 1/2 street is the nats are gonna have him start not on the 4th vs the reds but against the Pirates.

Posted by: alex35332 | May 24, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse

@cassander - it's a shame, but Stan and his team have showed more than once before that they know how to screw us over...so you can't help but think that is a real possibility.

Posted by: natsfan76 | May 24, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse

I hedged by buying halfway decent (not great, mind you) seats for the 4th, 8th, and 10th, and $10 seats for the other three dates in the homestand. I'll give away the ones I don't use for "future considerations" (= beer, since you can't trade draft picks in baseball).

So yeah, the Nats' evil plan to sell more tickets is working.

Posted by: EdTheRed | May 24, 2010 12:47 PM | Report abuse

I just bought 2 lowers for 6/4 about 5 mins ago...no problem. Im not sure what the hoopla is about. There are plenty still available.

Posted by: Redskins2Win | May 24, 2010 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Dan, just call the team and tell them you're from Philadelphia. They'll sell you as many as you want.

Anyone who think the Nats will actually start the kid on the 4th and not be able to sell that many more tickets obviously doesn't follow this team. My guess is they won't announce it until the last minute, but he won't make his first start until the Pirates' series.

And how embarrassing will it be for the team if they have a "sellout" on the 4th, and only 10,000 people show up to watch Craig Stammen pitch?

Posted by: bryc3 | May 24, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

I hope they do pitch him another date. Go to the games anyways - you are fans of the team right? Or are we just a bunch of big ticket event bandwagoners? Yup, pretty sure we are.

Posted by: JBuss | May 24, 2010 1:20 PM | Report abuse

The Nats keep on saying they have no idea when Stras will be called up. If he's supposed to be up in less than 2 weeks and they say they don't know when, they are either really stupid or really dishonest and disengenuous. So which is it?
They know writers are reporting the 4th and they know people want to see this, it being a special once in a lifetime happening. The least the Lerners or Stanky could do would be to simply be forthright and let everyone know the situation. This coy game playing to sell a few extra seats is really distasteful on their part and a real slap in the face to their fans.

Posted by: dovelevine | May 24, 2010 1:33 PM | Report abuse

This coy game playing to sell a few extra seats is really distasteful on their part and a real slap in the face to their fans.

Posted by: dovelevine | May 24, 2010 1:33 PM

To be fair, if you're a "fan" and this is the first (and only) game you're going to this year, you deserve to be slapped in the face. Several times.

Posted by: bryc3 | May 24, 2010 1:35 PM | Report abuse

I purchased 7 tickets (for June 4th) together for a trip with friends at the box office on Saturday. Got secition 227 ($30/EACH) and happy with the seats.

I would recommend to all, to get your seats now.

Posted by: tcostant | May 24, 2010 1:35 PM | Report abuse

JBuss...who says we arent fans? This will be my 6th game of the season (6/4 vs Reds). Probably my 50th or so since the team returned....other than the night baseball returned and the Nats Park opener - the only other meaningful game I will have attended.

For the people that are bandwagoning though I cant blame them...100 loss seasons are much to get excited about.

Posted by: Redskins2Win | May 24, 2010 1:39 PM | Report abuse

One more thing.

Someone mentioned that they can sell more tickets by moving the start back. Not true, because the game is not sold out yet. And the fact, that starting June 4th is the only way they get two starts on that home stand with a sellout the first night and a very stong gate (30,000 plus) the second on a weekday night.

Posted by: tcostant | May 24, 2010 1:45 PM | Report abuse

I just bought 2 lowers for 6/4 about 5 mins ago...no problem. Im not sure what the hoopla is about. There are plenty still available.

Posted by: Redskins2Win | May 24, 2010 1:05 PM | Report abuse

It's not the lower level tickets that are really the issue. You can't find the upper level (i.e., cheap) seats...people don't want to fork over big money when noone knows for sure if he is going to even pitch that game. [to the haters on here - i'll be there regardless!]

Posted by: natsfan76 | May 24, 2010 1:45 PM | Report abuse

>>To be fair, if you're a "fan" and this is the first (and only) game you're going to this year, you deserve to be slapped in the face. Several times.Posted by: bryc3


Well I'm pretty sure I'm a fan. I haven't missed one game this season and have already been to a few games at the Stadium and am also planning to see the Stras debut. But bottom line, Lerners, Kasten and Rizzo are being really sleazy about this. And for what reason, to make a few extra bucks? Absurd.
Every time these guys have the opportunity to do the right thing, they do the opposite. Nats management is really amazing.

Posted by: dovelevine | May 24, 2010 1:49 PM | Report abuse

that starting June 4th is the only way they get two starts on that home stand


Posted by: tcostant | May 24, 2010 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Not true. They have an off day between the reds and pirates series. so, they could pitch him june 5 and then again june 10 on normal rest (but someone else in the rotation would get skipped). They probably don't want to skip someone else in the rotation though, and June 5 would push strasburg to 7 days between starts, so for those reasons, I'd say 6/5 is less likely, but not impossible.

Posted by: natsfan76 | May 24, 2010 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Mini Me Lerner and Stan Kasten will probably sit back and see how much they sell for the other dates, too.

Posted by: TGT11 | May 24, 2010 1:53 PM | Report abuse

The sad thing is, if we take them at their word, it makes them look really stupid. You can't have it both ways. So which is it? Are they lying or are they stupid?

Posted by: dovelevine | May 24, 2010 1:58 PM | Report abuse

To natsfan76-

Mark Zuckmann has already reported on his Nats Insider blog that Strusburg will not pitch every 5th day, but every 5th game for two reasons:

1. Their desire to limit his innings for 2010, doing this (skipping someone else) would have an inverse effect to doing that.

2. By doing this, your telling the rest of the starters that he is bigger than the team.

I tend to agree.

Posted by: tcostant | May 24, 2010 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, with all the speculation that Friday, June 4th is the big day, along with only single tickets being left now, if the Nats were to push back Strasburg's debut they would face backlash that would rival the Opening Day fiasco. Just man up already and tell us what is blatantly obvious -- to confirm Strasburg's debut date... assuming all goes well in his final 2 starts for Syracuse. The "assuming all goes well" phrase would suffice, but being coy about it while letting the sportswriters speculate like this is totally irresponsible.

Posted by: ericp331 | May 24, 2010 2:14 PM | Report abuse

The Nats are hinting at a 6-4 Strasburg start to sell out. Then it will be 6-5 after that sells out, he will pitch 6-6. Three sell outs in three days thanks to 37.

Posted by: rjregan | May 24, 2010 2:22 PM | Report abuse

@tcostant-
I hear you and I don't necessarily disagree, but somebody is going to get pushed aside early on for Strasburg. Everything else remaining constant, Livan Hernandez is slated to pitch 6/4. So, if all of these theories are accurate, they will bump Livan to allow strasburg to start?

Once you come to grips with the fact that you will need to bump Livan in order to get Strasburg 2 starts at home (1 vs. the reds and 1 vs. the pirates), it is just a matter of deciding if you bump him 6/4 or 6/10.

beyond that, I agree 100% with zuckerman. But you have to understand that getting Strasburg into the rotation and starting 2 games at Nats Park before 6/11 is going to require SOMEBODY getting bumped.

OR, they put him in at 6/5 (Atilano's turn in the rotation) and just go with 1 start at home for the first homestand. I DON'T think they will do this though, b/c in addition to just the 1 start in DC before 6/11, it also makes it so he doesn't start in baltimore (it only makes sense to try to throw angelos/masn a bone and get him a start up there).

Posted by: natsfan76 | May 24, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

I do think it is unreasonable for people to "demand" that the Nats make 6/4 official NOW. It is unprecedented to announce a starter for a game 11 days out. There are a million things that can happen in the next 11 days that could impact him starting that day. If they announce today that he will start 6/4 and people buy the remaining tickets, the backlash will be even worse if something happens to make it so he can't start then.

I agree with the Nats approach here...and I suspect they will make an announcement right after whatever they plan to be strasburg's last start.

Posted by: natsfan76 | May 24, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

>>It is unprecedented to announce a starter for a game 11 days out.

Gimmie a freakin break. How precedented is it to broadcast every start for a minor league pitcher. First off, the Nats know when they PLAN to pitch him. Just be honest. Make an announcement that barring unforseen things, he is scheduled to start on so and so date. Peeps will understand if he gets injured or extenuating circumstances etc. But for goodness sake, stop playing games so you can make a few extra bucks. Just be honest about it and let peeps know. This is not a normal situation. So adjust. That's all.

Posted by: dovelevine | May 24, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Remember they can't really say anything while he still in the minors. After all, if they said that we would be called up after two more starts the player association could file a greviance stating that he is really a major league now and try to gain Super Two status. Bottom line, they have not publicly reveiled "the plan", so they can't do it now. Most likely you hear about the date when they say he was promoted.

Posted by: tcostant | May 24, 2010 3:00 PM | Report abuse

To natsfan76 -

Point taken. But remember that starting him June 4th will be with one extra rest, he actually lines up for June 3rd, but given the chance to pitch at home we all assume they will do that. Make no mistake, he won't pitch 6/5 or 6/6, unless his start tonigh or Saturday is rained out. No way they will play with his rest the way some are suggesting here. An extra day his normal during a baseball season and one of his starts was delayed an extra day on purpose, but no more than that.

So rest assure that if his next two starts have no rain, he either is pitched 6/4 in Nationals Park or he is still in the minors and they wait for the Pittsburg series. One other chance is he pitches on the road for the Nationals on 6/3 and then still ends up going for the first time at home in the Pittsburg series. But I think the Nats want the media in Nationals Park for that the first game, so I give it an 80% chance it's the 6/4 game.

Posted by: tcostant | May 24, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

It's hard to not file this under the "damned if you, damned if you don't" bucket, don't you think?

Announce the start (a week ago, today, whatever) and he tweaks his arm, it rains and the game starts 3 hours late after he's already warmed up, the opposing team's plane gets in late and the game time is moved, or any other bazillion issues that could arise and people who paid for tickets for his "first start" are pissed and mad and fired up at the organization for announcing so early.

Wait to announce to 3-5 days before the start and people are pissed and made and fired up that they waited so long to "maximize" ticket sales for other games and helped support the conjecture by not coming forward, etc.

Personally, I think you have to chalk this up to an "it is what it is" mentality. This is truly a once-in-a-lifetime call up with no real precedent on how to handle it for the bulk of the general population ... and mind you, this kid's future ... to accept.

I am truly open to suggestion if you can give any valid and unemotional reasoning behind the "right" path to take here.

Posted by: sdde25 | May 24, 2010 3:37 PM | Report abuse

tcostant-
I agree with you. Strasburg has been getting an extra day of rest several times already this year and they will want to keep him on his schedule. It seems apparent that the target date is 6/4 but weather and performance will play a role between now and then. What if, god forbid, he gets lit up tonight or is wild? I think after his start this weekend, the Post et-al will start reporting he will start 6/4 but they won't officially call him up until that afternoon

Posted by: 804natsfan | May 24, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Check the Nats website. They list "probable" starters for the next three games, but the fourth says "to be announced." To the best of my recollection, this is pretty standard. No way they're going to announce his call-up any sooner than after his last minor-league start, same as with any other promotion from the minors. That way, they can rely on "we always do it that way," which is always a perfect excuse.

Posted by: TomServo | May 24, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

relax everybody - there are plenty of tickets left. just found two tickets next to each other in several sections. don't know where all this "there are no tickets left" is coming from.

Posted by: dls5kk | May 24, 2010 5:12 PM | Report abuse

no, the nats aren't doing anything wrong. and neither are the fans.

with well over 200 losses in 2008-2010, can't blame anyone for staying away from the park more than normal. still a fan; just shelling out less to suupport the team.

and aren't we allowed to get excited when a star player is about to debut? i mean, all the self loathing haters out there should just keep pontificating from your dining room family computer. i'll be at the game.

Posted by: xrvax | May 24, 2010 5:16 PM | Report abuse

no, the nats aren't doing anything wrong. and neither are the fans.

with well over 200 losses in 2008-2010, can't blame anyone for staying away from the park more than normal. still a fan; just shelling out less to suupport the team.

and aren't we allowed to get excited when a star player is about to debut? i mean, all the self loathing haters out there should just keep pontificating from your dining room family computer. i'll be at the game.

Posted by: xrvax | May 24, 2010 5:16 PM | Report abuse

I bought my ticket a week or so ago, when there were still plenty of options. I thought about buying a bunch in the hopes of selling them at a premium but the idea left a bad taste in my mouth.

This will be my first Nationals game in the new stadium, more because the friend of mine who used to go with me moved away than anything else. Call me a pseudo-fan if you want....

Posted by: kevinwparker | May 24, 2010 8:58 PM | Report abuse

Single tickets only for June 4th now, just checked Nationals.com

Posted by: tcostant | May 26, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse

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