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George Starke on Bruce Allen and Vinny Cerrato

The Redskins hosted about 60 former players at the final day of mandatory minicamp on Thursday. We will write many, many words about this event, because it was awesome, and because the turf field was brimming with stories from the likes of Mark Moseley, Sam Huff, Neal Olkewicz, Pat Fischer, Gary Clark, Bobby Mitchell, Art Monk, Clint Didier, Roy Jefferson and on and on and on.

After the media left for post-practice interviews, Bruce Allen addressed many of the alumni down on the field, telling them he wants them to be involved in every training camp, and that they should "let us know how we can help you in your lives." The ex-players loved it, talking about how important it is for them to feel wanted and connected to the franchise, and how special it is for them to see all the old faces.

And at least one of the players very explicitly contrasted this with the immediate past.

"The first thing it means is that the change in the administration from Cerrato to Bruce Allen is a good thing for the Washington Redskins, because Vinny didn't like us around," said legendary Hog George Starke. "He didn't like former Redskins. He wasn't part of this family. And as a result of that, the Redskins never went anywhere. You know, [most] of these guys out there on that field have never been in the playoffs. On this side, you've got guys here with four rings.

"And so Bruce, when he came in, the first thing he did was he called Brig Owens up, he called me up, he said the Redskins will never be successful as an organization unless we all come together. He's absolutely right. He says 'I want everybody to come out, I want you to come out all the time, I want you to be part of the deal, otherwise this team won't be successful.'

"And that's absolutely right. And that's what he did, so that's why we're here.....Whereas the Vinny guy was the exact opposite. He wanted to do it himself and he didn't know how to do it....

"For the last three years we've been hearing about these second-round draft choice receivers that can't run a route. First of all, running a route's not that hard, but for some reason they can't do it. See, Bruce is the kind of guy, he'd call out Art Monk, because Art lives right down the street, and say 'All right, will you come up here and show the kids how to run a route please?'

"That makes sense. You draw on all this talent you have, which is something the other guy would never do. It's a no-brainer. You never really know what makes one team better than another, but I'll tell you this, there's very little variation in talent from team to team. So the team that won the Super Bowl, New Orleans, they're not a better team than this, talent-wise.

"Number one, it's coaching, and number two, there's a spiritual aspect to it. Trust me on that. There's a magic that comes around a football team that's a winning team, and you want to capture that magic somehow, and I think this is a good way to do it."

Trust me, if you love nostalgia, the next few blog posts here and at Redskins Insider will be good for you.

By Dan Steinberg  |  June 17, 2010; 1:23 PM ET
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This Bruce Allen/Mike Shannahan combo may make me lift my Redskin Boycott!

Posted by: Leeguru | June 17, 2010 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Nice Dan! Really looking forward to those next few blog posts.

Posted by: dalison | June 17, 2010 1:55 PM | Report abuse


I remember when Three Rivers stadium closed and the Redskins played there to close it down. I was a little jealous because they had all those former Steelers on the sidelines and it really felt like the alumni meant something to the team. I was like (to the smart alecks, don't laugh) "Our history is just as rich as theirs is, but we rarely see alumni around"

Hopefully, this is a step in the right direction of breaking a losing culture.

Posted by: DocHolliday1906 | June 17, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Dan Steinberg:
Thank you for your entry on George Starke and the Redskin alumni. Thank you for your work, too. I look forward to your posts. You are terrific. I have been a Redskin fan since 1953. I look forward to your posts on the alumni.

Posted by: royhobbs56 | June 17, 2010 2:02 PM | Report abuse

"Whereas the Vinny guy was the exact opposite." Great quote. Thanks for sticking around to get this Steinz. I love the direction this is going in.

Posted by: JulzDC | June 17, 2010 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Nice Post. I always wondered why the Alumni never seemed to be around. I think we are finally moving in the right direction with Allen and Shanahan at the helm.

Cerrato is and always be an idiot. How the HELL he keeps getting jobs in the NFL or on the NFL network is beyond me.

Posted by: jerod1 | June 17, 2010 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Dan (not to be confused with O Danny Boy):
This post you just did should be setting along side the three Lombardi trophies!

The only thing The Danny could have done better was to hire Russ instead of Zorn and hired Allen along with him.

Its not that Shannahan was not a good hire but as this post stated so elequently Russ is family. We needed to reconnect with the past.

Just maybe if Russ had been selected prior to Shanny being hired just maybe he would have shined a little brighter in the Danny's eyes.

Posted by: rillbizi | June 17, 2010 2:24 PM | Report abuse

.....I got chills....

Posted by: erleach | June 17, 2010 2:30 PM | Report abuse

LMAO at how EVERYBODY is getting their BLANK ripped out at the Park today...Kelly and Thomas, in case you were wondering, Boss Hog Starke was calling YOU out son...You really don't want Gary Clark on your'd better get it together

Posted by: kahlua87 | June 17, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

I sure hope that the players who help 'educate' these youngsters in how to properly play football get paid for their time and effort. If there is no Redskin money left to pay them because of the Haynesworth Heist, then take the money from the overpriced youngsters who are now the pupils.

Posted by: bbmcoachk | June 17, 2010 2:57 PM | Report abuse

this article made my day. thank you.

Posted by: asdffdsa1 | June 17, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse

The effects of little things like this cannot be overestimated. HAIL


Posted by: JohnnyBlades | June 17, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Steinberg -- maybe you can wear a Redskins cheerleader outfit to the next event?

Posted by: dbunkr | June 17, 2010 3:47 PM | Report abuse

I guess my comment is why are the Redskins paying the receivers coach??

Posted by: Phillip258 | June 17, 2010 4:00 PM | Report abuse

I am afraid that the curretn players in most sports have the idea that if it didn't happen during my lifetine, it didn't happen. Listen to these old Redskins. Starke is a natural leader. Smart, confident and unafraid to speak his mind. Nixon with a whistle (George Allen) got these guys to play hard every game. That is a tribute to the players as much as the coach.

Posted by: TJDemo | June 17, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

How does Barno defend Vinny in this one?

Posted by: jpfterps | June 17, 2010 6:26 PM | Report abuse

I guess my comment is why are the Redskins paying the receivers coach??

Posted by: Phillip258
My very thought. What's the point of having a receivers coach if you have to call on Art Monk to show the receivers how to run a route? Either hire Art as the coach or get a new receivers coach.

Posted by: randysbailin | June 17, 2010 6:39 PM | Report abuse

I can PROUDLY be a Redskins fan again!! I feel like a kid! The future is now and getting much, much brighter!!

Posted by: busdriver420 | June 17, 2010 6:54 PM | Report abuse

Finally somebody that get's it Kid&Play(Kelly and Thomas) were a joke for the last couple of years comming to training camp out of shape and then having the nerve to catch a "tude" when they were called out,Ceratto was an idiot who got the job because he was a azz-kisser he had not one ounce of football knowledge Zorn should have never been hired Jim Zorn ruined a perfectly good QB in Jason Campbell, so much so that Shannahan traded for McNabb who i predict won't make it through this season,they made a huge mistake with Haynesworth who along with his agent have hustled this team out of millions and in return the Redskins have become the laughing stock of the league. Mike Shannahan and Bruce Allen have their work cut out for them thanks to years of stupidity and neglect.

Posted by: dargregmag | June 17, 2010 8:40 PM | Report abuse

how can we as skins fans have been so stubborn to think that the players that vinny had brought in would help us win and return to glory. all he ever did was bring in guys with no character(deion,stubby,george,loyd,and so on and so on. the list is endless.) he knew absolutely zelch about running a football team let alone trying to build a winning organization. no wonder we were (and still currently)the joke around the league. Te Redskins are an franchise, but not an organization. there was nothing organized from top to bottom during vinny's days. why does pittsburg, nygiants,patriots,colts always seem to compete. because they all are classy "organizations". i dont hate vinny, i just have no respect for him as a front office manager. snyder did stick his nose into alot of transactions but a strong gm oould have prevented alot of mishaps that occured here. so here it is, vinny ur a classless gm that brought in classless players that now hsa our beloved redskins reeling and now the laughing stock of this league. thnx vinny, u snake. hope the cowgurlz hire u even if its a janitoral position. go clean their sh?t cuz u couldnt clean the sh?t u left behind.HTTR!!

Posted by: skinsfan4eva | June 17, 2010 8:48 PM | Report abuse

Right after concluding the interview with Dan Steinberg, George Stark was penalized for holding...

Posted by: spqr2k | June 17, 2010 10:36 PM | Report abuse

Like the instilling of redskins winning tradition and culture....

...but if a kid doesn't know how to run a route maybe the new coaches should teach'em. no offense to the old farts.

Posted by: heightofhypocrisy | June 18, 2010 3:45 AM | Report abuse

Wow, this cat thinks bringing back retiree's will do the trick by having them essentially come coach players when asked by the GM. That won't happen in this NFL. Period. Their problem is that they don't have talent on either line of scrimmage and to say they were as talented as N.O. is plain stupid. They need to get rid of everyone over 26 years old, ditch Bob Marley on the logo, the name, and the uni's and start from scratch like the caps and Nats are doing. These worn out re-treads like McNabb, Galloway, and others are museum pieces. It is a young man's game now.

Posted by: doyouktt | June 18, 2010 5:51 AM | Report abuse


please tell us you are the son of Vinney and that you can not control what comes out your piehole when you open it ..... you do not have a clue . You must of excape of the returd bus and some how made it to the bus stop but then only then you realized you lost your pass , your a dum A$$ like your father

George Starke #74

ps how is your mommy ?

Posted by: terryreece | June 18, 2010 7:49 AM | Report abuse

This is great stuff. Looking forward to future posts. Don't apologize for your enthusiasm. This was a brilliant move by Bruce Allen. He grew up in the Redskins locker room and knows how important this is for the team. We have a lot of high character men on this roster from last year and have picked up quite a few this year. Win or lose this is important for the franchise. I've been a Skins fan since 1960 and have seen what character and heart can achieve. Thanks again.

Posted by: grumpybaz | June 18, 2010 9:55 AM | Report abuse

This was a good move to get the old skins around the current team, the only bad thing is the last picture! WTF was Cerrato doing there? If I was Allen and Shannahan I would not have allowed him there. He alienated some of the players that were great, he also is a imcompetent ass.

Posted by: russellpenmaniii | June 18, 2010 10:14 AM | Report abuse

You folks in denial will be brought back down to earth somewhere around week 8 of the season. $nyder owns the team, the Redskins are losers!


Posted by: hessone | June 18, 2010 10:23 AM | Report abuse

Has everyone forgotten how Cerrato ruined the 49ers?

Julian Tepper
Placitas, NM

Posted by: jutepper1 | June 18, 2010 12:48 PM | Report abuse

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