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The latest Philly fan invasion



By winning two out of three games against the Phillies, the Nats kept what foreign elements there were in the crowd from attracting unreasonable amounts of attention over the weekend. On the radio, at least, the volume seemed entirely appropriate after Ryan Zimmerman's walk-off Saturday home run. Of course, when the Phillies rallied and then won on Sunday, it also seemed loud, this time for all the wrong reasons.

"More Phillies fan In Washington than Nats Fans," Donyell Marshall, of all people, wrote on Twitter.

The Phillies Nation bus trip was on Saturday -- see photo gallery here -- but there didn't seem to be the same level of angst that accompanied the season-opening series. And yet Sunday's broadcast was extremely annoying, what with all those Philly fans seated directly behind home plate. In the first inning, I counted 8 pieces of Philly garb vs. seven supporting the Nats. By the end, when the section filled in, it was harder to judge, but it seemed like Philly stuff still had a slight advantage. And those two large men in the front row just couldn't be avoided. Bob Carpenter and Rob Dibble joking about how they were helping the greater D.C. economy didn't help much.



Then there were the outfield fans heckling Nyjer Morgan on Saturday night. He seemed...interested. That video below comes via Nationals Enquirer, and it will make you look forward to the last week of September, when the Phillies visit again just days before Donovan McNabb's first trip back North.

By Dan Steinberg  |  August 2, 2010; 11:57 AM ET
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Ah yes, McNabb's first trip back to Philly... speaking of McNabb: really, Mike Wise, REALLY??

Posted by: adidamas | August 2, 2010 12:18 PM | Report abuse

One reason this happens is that Nationals fans are NOT Stan Kastens favorite ........the Nationals fans are there so that Stan's fans have someone to abuse a sort of bonus that not even their home park can offer ........it's Stans Plan and he has been true to his Plan

Posted by: CBinDC1 | August 2, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse

The Phillies fans at Saturday's game were some of the most obnoxious, rude, and immature fans I have seen at a baseball game. They were screaming insults, chanting constantly, and confronting Nationals fans in my section, and most Nats fans were just families trying to enjoy a ballgame.

Posted by: mgm2rr | August 2, 2010 12:33 PM | Report abuse

If I lived in Philly, I'd want to leave town too.

Posted by: Hattrik | August 2, 2010 12:43 PM | Report abuse

Wow, you should have warned us. I clicked on the link to the "photo gallery here" and found myself on a Philly site. Ewwwweww. I'm doing what I can to clear my browser so it never finds itself back there again!

Posted by: capsnnats | August 2, 2010 12:47 PM | Report abuse

I noticed the Phillies' fans in the expensive seats early on Fri. night. But they appeared to have left before the end of the first great conclusion. My reaction was Wow!! They spend $300 (500 ?) to watch a ball game. God Bless Them!! That picture for Saturday must have been early innings. Only NATS fans were visible when Zim did his thing. I was there Sunday and we NATS fans appeared to be evne-steven with them and they were mostly quiet given the closeness of the game.

Sec 204 Row H Seat 7

Posted by: adhardwick | August 2, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse

I noticed the Phillies' fans in the expensive seats early on Fri. night. But they appeared to have left before the end of the first great conclusion. My reaction was Wow!! They spend $300 (500 ?) to watch a ball game. God Bless Them!! That picture for Saturday must have been early innings. Only NATS fans were visible when Zim did his thing. I was there Sunday and we NATS fans appeared to be even-steven with them and they were mostly quiet given the closeness of the game.

Sec 204 Row H Seat 7

Posted by: adhardwick | August 2, 2010 1:10 PM | Report abuse

We were at the game Saturday night it really seemed like Philly fans totally outnumbered us home folks. I mean 2-1. There was a swarm of them. Which made that 9th inning shot just so, so sweet. Buncha really bad losers too Kept reminding everybody the Nats are n last place. Fine. Lose two of three and need 11 innings to beat the last-place team/ What does that tell you? I agree with Hattrick -- If I lived in Philly I'd look for every opportunity to leave town too.

Posted by: bethesdaguy | August 2, 2010 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Who wouldn't want to get out of Sillydelphia for a nice weekend in the Nations Capital. We like there money $$$$$

Posted by: cokedispatch | August 2, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

I live in Philly, and these people *do* go to DC all they can, because DC is way nicer (my job brought me here, long story). They will protest that the media has created their image, but when you start citing the many examples of their boorishness, they revert quickly and strongly to said boorishness. I thought winning a World Series might calm them down; sadly, no. But as bad as Phillies fans are (yes, the vomiting, and a stomping murder in the Phillies parking lot last year), trust me, Eagles fans are far worse.

Posted by: DCExpatInPhilly | August 2, 2010 1:38 PM | Report abuse

There's a good reason the place is called Philthydelphia. It's Home of the Unwashed (M)Asses. What more can you say for a city whose culinary claim to fame is that mega hunk o'junk, the cheesesteak?

Can't wait till the Phillies and their Phans come back in September so that the Nats can take another series and knock the Phillies out of contention.

I spent two years going to grad school in Philthydelphia. I have never gone back. Hell, I've never looked back.

Posted by: sasquatchbigfoot | August 2, 2010 1:58 PM | Report abuse

On Saturday, Hubby and I were completely surrounded in Section 416, outside of a handful of Nats fans down the row, and a couple a few rows behind us. We few, we happy few, managed to out shout the Philly rabble in our section at least, and yes,it was SO sweet when Ryan's HR went out.

Cheers to all you Nats fans who out-shouted the Philly fans again on Sunday. We could hear you loud and clear on the tv!

Posted by: Section416akatheAlps | August 2, 2010 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Next time Phillies Phans harass Nyjer Morgan, he should bend over to do some hamstring stretches, and while doing so, point to what part of his anatomy the Phllies Phans can kiss.

Posted by: sasquatchbigfoot | August 2, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

This what all you Nats fans get. Laugh and mock the O’s all you want, but the situation is no better in DC. As soon as the Os field a winning team, go to Camden and you will see what real baseball fans are all about. LOL at “Nats Nation”.

Posted by: cj658 | August 2, 2010 2:32 PM | Report abuse

We need to add a new toll on the road from/to Philadelphia that kicks in before and after games in DC against those idiots. Maybe, an extra $100 toll would discourage the load-mouth, uncouth jerks to stay home. Then again, almost any amount is worth getting out of Philly.

Posted by: pjohn2 | August 2, 2010 2:34 PM | Report abuse

This what all you Nats fans get. Laugh and mock the O’s all you want, but the situation is no better in DC. As soon as the Os field a winning team, go to Camden and you will see what real baseball fans are all about.

Posted by: cj658 | August 2, 2010 2:32 PM

Ha - speaking of peasant filled, garbage towns...

Posted by: Kev29 | August 2, 2010 2:45 PM | Report abuse

You can have your Os. I will take the Nats anyday over that train wreck. Good luck ever getting out of the cellar with the Yanks and Sox. Go Nats!

Posted by: tylerdurden1 | August 2, 2010 2:48 PM | Report abuse

The Nats have been in the cellar longer than the O's have. Ooops.

Funny now that Natinal fans get a taste of their own medicine after years of trying to mock the O's for whenever the Yanks and Sox invade.

The Natinals can't even sell out their brand new stadium and whenever it's mostly filled, 1/2 of the fans in attendance are rooting for the other team.

Shoot, even when the O's are in DC there are just as many O's fans as Nats fans at the park. Yet, when the Nats travel up to B'more, there are way more O's fans than Natinal fans.

I'd almost feel sad for Natinal fans it their situation wasn't so funny.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | August 2, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse

There is no doubt we would prefer to live without the presence and behavior of large quantities of obnoxious Phillie fans at Nationals Park. While we put up with the buffoonery, they are adding some significant dollars to the Nats cash flow. We can only hope the Lerners reinvest some of this largesse in signing Bryce Harper and other prospects and free agents that will continue building the roster and haunt the Phillies and other NL East rivals for years to come. That way, the Phillie fans will actually have been the agents of their team's own demise.

Posted by: Natzfan | August 2, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

they are adding some significant dollars to the Nats cash flow. We can only hope the Lerners reinvest some of this largesse in signing Bryce Harper and other prospects and free agents that will continue building the roster

Posted by: Natzfan | August 2, 2010 3:16 PM

This is a good example of what we like to call "Lerner Syndrome" - a cousin of Stockholm Syndrome. The Lerners have set the bar so low for us that many fans seem to see things through their eyes. Like the club needs to be thrifty or make more money before they can spend it. Simply not the case - the Lerners make a fortune off this team and have plenty of money to improve the roster immediately. With the attendance and merchandising boost from Strasmas this summer, god only knows how much they will make this year.

Posted by: Kev29 | August 2, 2010 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Y'all think this past weekend was nuts? Wait a couple weeks when the Philly Union comes to play DC United at RFK.

THAT should be a crazy game........

Posted by: Juan-John1 | August 2, 2010 3:36 PM | Report abuse

I'd almost feel sad for Natinal fans it their situation wasn't so funny.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | August 2, 2010 2:59 PM

Oh the jersey malfunction joke - hilarious! And topical!

How about that Baltimore attendance...? http://espn.go.com/mlb/attendance

Lowest since the 107 loss team 22 years ago. And that's after two sets against both the Red Sox and Yankees.

You'll never be anything without our money. Now run off to your crack den.

Posted by: Kev29 | August 2, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse

The clock is ticking on the Filthies, its becoming more and more obvious now as the big guns are getting older and on the DL more frequently. We'll see in 12,13,and 14 how many of those putrid people take the freedom bus south when the Phillies return to mediocrity. Hey by the time Sept rolls around they may be out of it anyway and us Nats fans will have the last laugh. As for the BLOWS, well keep dream'in O fans because thats all you have in Harm City!

Posted by: TippyCanoe | August 2, 2010 4:23 PM | Report abuse

The clock is ticking on the Filthies, its becoming more and more obvious now as the big guns are getting older and on the DL more frequently. We'll see in 12,13,and 14 how many of those putrid people take the freedom bus south when the Phillies return to mediocrity. Hey by the time Sept rolls around they may be out of it anyway and us Nats fans will have the last laugh. As for the BLOWS, well keep dream'in O fans because thats all you have in Harm City!

Posted by: TippyCanoe | August 2, 2010 4:29 PM | Report abuse

On Saturday, from the moment we stood to wait for our metro train, through the game itself--when we witnessed and were forced to listen to corps of Phillies fans more interested in harassing Nyger Morgan than watching the game-- to standing post-game on the Navy Yard metro tracks with gangs of young men succeeding in making Animal House look like the Vienna Choir , we were thunderstruck. At one point I seriously wondered if I would be pushed onto the tracks.

We were Thunderstruck that large and small groups of people would go out of their way to represent themselves as immature, rude, and obnoxious. Thunderstruck that large and small groups of people lacked common sense or conscience about how they appeared to others. Thunderstruck that the guests didn't have a clue about what it means to be guests. Thunderstruck that so many small and large groups of people had the ability to turn a pleasant outing toxic.

And on Sunday-- more of the same. On the way to the game a couple in back of us got our attention and told us, loudly, that we were lucky they were only sitting next to us on the train and not at the game because they are so Obnoxious (they really need to share this with us?). As we left the game and made our way to the metro, two men behind us yelled directly in our ears, all the while bragging to one another that they could oudo each other in their most obnoxious yells.
We've attended many Nats games and enjoyed sitting next to fans of opposing teams. We've enjoyed the hospitality of Baltimore fans when we go to Camden yards. We've never experienced carcinogenic fans. Until this weekend. City of Brotherly Love? These fans gave strong evidence the address needs to be changed.

Posted by: booklover74 | August 2, 2010 4:30 PM | Report abuse

I have had a blast this season watching the Nationals. I hope the Lerners are willing to open up their wallets for a for more pieces to the puzzle this winter. I also hope they are able to get Harper signed. If they want to continue to put buts in the seats, they need to show a commitment to building a winner in DC. The fans will come and show support of a winner - just look to the Caps for proof. Go Nats!

Posted by: tylerdurden1 | August 2, 2010 5:31 PM | Report abuse

The Lerners don't want to crack down on Phillies fans who are rude and obnoxious because of the almighty dollar. Amazingly, in our section on Saturday night, the only fans to get thrown out by security were two Nats fans -- because all of the Phillies around them complained that the two Nats fans were being obnoxious. Unbelievable! The two Nats fans should have been given medals for standing up to the Philly fatnatics. During the game, one Philly fan mooned us (he wasn't thrown out, even after we complained to an usher). In the center field seats, where some of our family members were sitting, they reported to us that all of the Phillies fans surrounding them were yelling racist crack baby and other nasty stuff to Nyger Morgan during the game. And then they got beer poured on them by Phillies fans when they cheered for Nyger Morgan. But Nats security didn't do anything because our family members couldn't identify who threw the beer. Thankfully, after Zimmerman hit the walk-off homer, we Nats fans got the last laugh and could get in the faces of all the Phillies fans around them to tell them to go home to their stinkin' town. If Kasten and Nats management are going to welcome Phillies fans to Nats Park and not hold Phillies fans accountable for their actions, then Nats fans need to band together and do whatever it takes to make life miserable for Phillies fans when they come to our taxpayer-funded park to ensure they never want to come back.

Posted by: HonestBroker1 | August 2, 2010 6:01 PM | Report abuse

You know what's really sad Kev29? That your beloved Expos, I mean Natinals, can only outdraw the, literally, worst team in baseball by a measly 2000 or so fans.

Of course when you bring up Yanks/Sox invading OPACY, you conveniently leave out the fact that Mets and Philly fans invade your home park and you don't even mention the Strasburg-bump in attendance.

Ooops. So take away that and your beloved Natinals, what with their fancy new stadium and still being the new team in town can barely outdraw a team that hasn't had a winning season in a decade.

Now that's pathetic. But that's why Washington is on its 3rd baseball team.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | August 2, 2010 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Saturday night's game was as sweet as it gets. Yes, many obnoxious Philly phans - booing everytime our pitcher throws to first, drinking like alcoholics, swearing. And then, quickly packing their bags and slinking out of the stadium after their team gets shut down for the second time by that last place team!! SWEET! And thanks for bringing all that $$ to the ball park - let's home the Lerners use it to sign Dunn to a long term contract :) I love all the kids at these games - cause they are the season ticket holders of the future (too bad they have to listen to philly fans who have no decency). It takes time to rebuild a fan base after 33 years with no team.

Posted by: humbleandfree | August 2, 2010 7:01 PM | Report abuse

Ugh, Nationals fans: I get it that your team gets overshadowed every time the Phillies fans come to town, but can we stop with the tired stereotypes of Philly fans. I've been to several Phillies games in DC and the only thing out of the ordinary is a bunch of "Lets go Phillies" chants break out. One thing you could do about that is cheer for your own team in your OWN stadium. I don't know how many times on Sunday that "Make Noise" graphic came up to dead silence. Anyways this is YOUR morale problem, not ours. Stop using the rest of us as scapegoats.

Posted by: bugmenot | August 2, 2010 10:24 PM | Report abuse

Thank you bugmenot, I went to DC on Saturday because it is easy to get great seats for an affordable price at the Nats stadium because no one goes. I paid $95 dollars for a charter bus, buffet, drink including alcohol, and then we had tickets in the 24th-29th row on the 3rd baseline. We had to buy the tickets individually, 60 of them but we were able to get 5 rows of 12 seats in a row because you dont sell tickets. We werent able to buy group tickets this time because of the complaints that we took over your stadium on opening day, which we did sellout your stadium, just as we did on saturday, because we are real fans and we make an effort for our team. After opening day, your stadium has been empty, i saw the one guy arguing that your not as bad as baltimore, ha i enjoy your argument for last place. Dont get angry because your in last place and we get to have more fun than you. I will not see you in October, have a good off-season.

Posted by: Phanatic | August 3, 2010 11:12 AM | Report abuse

Say what you want Gnats fans but you don't support your team so stop whining about the crowds of Phillies fans. This area is just a bunch of bandwagon jumpers (see CAPS) with the exception of Deadskins fans wearing those racist jerseys (Oh yeah let's go an make the "well they're mean to birds argument about the Eagles" - Oh good one). I like the Nats, they're my second favorite team and they've got good potential, but don't give me that "no-nothing about baseball mentality" that pervades this area. "We" took 2 out of 3 from the Phils." Check the standings kids..

Posted by: Dog-1 | August 3, 2010 4:25 PM | Report abuse

First off, I love this town, I love baseball and I see quite a few Nats games through the year.
Yet I think most Nationals fans underestimate the number of Phillies fans in the DC area. Part of the reason there's such a huge crowd for Nats/Phils games - I'd assume it's the same with Mets games - is that people from all over the country flock to DC for jobs. They're likely fans of a team that has a long history, they grew up watching Phillies games with their families and love the team.
So combine the visiting fan base that's already here for a lot of teamas, a small Nats fan base, a nice ballpark and cheap tickets and you're going to see lopsided crowd support for quite a while (or every fifth game when Strasburg is healthy again).
Philly fans are passionate about their teams, but not any more than Redskins fans, Red Sox fans or fans other teams that have decades of history. Give it time, support your team and someday you may not see so many visiting team fans in the stands.

Posted by: pfdunne1 | August 3, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse

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