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Redskins, looking miserable



Since the start of the 2006 season, the Rams are 15-52. In that same span, they're 3-1 against the Redskins.

Including Sunday, the Rams have now won four of their last 31 games. Against the Redskins, they're 2-1. Against the rest of the NFL, they're 2-26.

It's not the end of the world, but those are ugly numbers, and the Redskins looked fairly distraught after this loss. Our crack photographers in St. Louis -- John McDonnell and Toni L. Sandys -- captured this wonderfully. This won't make you any happier, but they're striking images.










By Dan Steinberg  | September 26, 2010; 8:56 PM ET
Categories:  Redskins  
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They are who we thought they were

Posted by: jacksonalex | September 26, 2010 9:05 PM | Report abuse

And still, from these pictures, they look better than they play. Pathetic. THe only accurate pictures of this team would be someone hauling them off on trash cans.

Posted by: Almazar80 | September 26, 2010 9:48 PM | Report abuse

New QB, New Coaches, New Schemes...the same old Redskins. I'm watching Miami right now and they have less "NAMES" but they know how to play football. When will the 'skins get back to playing football?

Posted by: chris37 | September 26, 2010 9:55 PM | Report abuse

Old players,old coaches...to paraphrase "Quigly Down Under"...Tom Sellack to McNabb..."This ain't Mile High and you ain't John Elway...",Elway carried Shanahan.

Posted by: petebowling1 | September 26, 2010 10:06 PM | Report abuse

when they stop signing over the hill players and start building through the draft

Posted by: BMACattack | September 26, 2010 10:07 PM | Report abuse

It seems Dan Snyder will have to suck on the irony of losing to a real Native American, Cherokee Sam Bradford, and like it.

The Al Jolsons of the NFL = Fail.

Posted by: rdpinva | September 26, 2010 10:15 PM | Report abuse

Will someone please explain to me why this coaching staff felt compelled to take a decent 4-3 defense, in the top 10 last year, and completely upend it to the point that no one, except Orakpo, even looks like a pro on the field? What is so magical about the 3-4 that Shanny and Haslett have forced it down out throats? It's beyond clear that it is not working and that's an understatement. And dont' tell me we'll get there in 2 or 3 years with other players. By then, McNabb will be gone and many of today's most talented Skins will be nearing the end of their careers. This is all down to coaching arrogance and ego and Shanahan has LOADS of both. His first move was to hire Haslett. Nuff said. Shanny seems far more concerned with ensuring he gets the last word as opposed to ensuring we actually field a winning team. Haynesworth needs to be in there, Portis shouldn't be benched for taking a slide on 1 play, the "D" should be changed back to what works best for these players - the 4-3. Sadly, none of that will happen because our coach's ego is just TOO big for him to admit his mistakes and change his approach. And will someone teach Shanny, Jr. about effective play-calling in the red zone? He doesn't seem to have a clue about what to call within 20 yds of the end zone. Finally, get rid of Danny Smith. He's made our special teams into a joke. One bonehead mistake after another.
Oh, let's not forget loudmouth D. Hall who decided he was the new defensive coordinator and boasted of how he wanted the opposing team's best receiver. He looked pathetic and pitiful out there today. But that's never stopped him for criticizing his teammates. Yeah, Hall. You talk big in the locker room, but fail miserably on the field. You're one player who has NEVER backed up his talk with actual on-the-field performance.

Posted by: teresae878 | September 26, 2010 10:31 PM | Report abuse

Rdpinva

You are a tool and no one cares about your stupid idealogies. This is America - we don't have to care. You'll never win because you have no argument.

Posted by: frannie825 | September 26, 2010 10:33 PM | Report abuse

Portis runs with his eyes closed, he always has.

Posted by: emelar | September 26, 2010 10:51 PM | Report abuse

@teresae878: I couldn't agree more. I was amazed when Haslett announced the switch to the 3-4. They were loaded with good DL men and not exactly overstocked with LBs.

Now, they've got Andre Carter flailing around in pass coverage when he should be at DE getting sacks, not to mention all the other guys who are now playing out of position, and they can't make a stop with the game on the line to save their very lives!

Posted by: SkinsfaninNebraska | September 26, 2010 10:55 PM | Report abuse

I love the aggressiveness of the 3-4. Other teams have tried to implement it in stages and it doesn't work. That being said, there's nothing stopping Haslett from adapting to the personnel a bit.

We weren't contenders this year. Let the growing pains happen. They should play Haynesworth, though.

Posted by: bostskin | September 26, 2010 11:31 PM | Report abuse

Also, look at the faces of these guys above. These are not the faces of players who don't care. That much has changed. Sure, we didn't put them away. It frustrates me too, but I definitely recognize the signs of playing with pride. That's been a long time coming.

Posted by: bostskin | September 26, 2010 11:36 PM | Report abuse

bostskin - Growing pains, you say? To me it looks like we're standing on the deck of the Titanic after it hit the iceburg. We're going down with this defense, my friend, and there aren't enough lifeboats to save everyone. I go back to my original point - no one has yet to explain why the need for this drastic defensive change in the first place, other than Shanny's monumental desire to do so. We had a strong "D" as a 4-3. It was clearly the strength of our team for several years. Now, it's pathetically the weakest link, by far. I'm tired of waiting for things to "gel" in 2 or 3 years. By then, our QB will be gone and so will the few decent players we still have on this team. And let's be clear here too - Shanny has built this so-called team into a "win now" team. He even said as much when questioned about it. Why else give up a high draft pick for an aging QB? It's patently obvious, though, that we are unable to win now with this horrid excuse for a "D". Haslett and Shanny are wasting the talents of so many key players and for what? A "potentially??" good "D" 2 or 3 years from now? Well, we could just as easily stink 2 or 3 years from now, even with new players supposedly more suited to this defense. I am beyond tired of all of the excuses we Skins fans have been asked to swallow for years now. All of the patience we've been asked to display. Shanny's moves are just more in a long line of mistakes made by Skins management and coaches.

Posted by: teresae878 | September 26, 2010 11:50 PM | Report abuse

Jim Haslett- what a problem. Such a talented, proven crew on defense but his schemes are so lame. To watch our defense become a 5-10 yard cream puff, and among the worst in the league, is in-excusable! Haslett=Cerrato. Get that dufus out of Washington. I am beginning to believe Albert Haynesworth is the smart one- Lord, help my Redskins get me through that thought!

Posted by: jighazelton | September 26, 2010 11:52 PM | Report abuse

jighazelton - Your thoughts about Haynesworth have occurred to me too. As much as I dislike what Big Al has done this offseason, he may be "right on" when it comes to the bonehead move to a 3-4. And I am convinced that many other players share his concerns, but don't feel they are in a position to speak out publicly. How CAN they be satisifed and confident in this defense? No way, no how. So much talent being literally wasted in a failed experiment. Another season possibly evaporating right before our eyes. Sickening beyond belief.

Posted by: teresae878 | September 27, 2010 12:04 AM | Report abuse

Man what a change from when the Cowboys were in town from superbowl to toilet bowl in two weeks~!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: marymc21 | September 27, 2010 12:22 AM | Report abuse

There hasn't been anything to like about this club in decades. A bunch of puffed up, unprofessional, way overpaid and WAY over-hyped losers. Year after f-ing year. I'm tired of hating having to root for this shite team.
I think from now on I'll leave it up to the players to root for themselves. That's the one thing they excel at. They can pound their chests and flex their muscles and dance their embarrassing self congratulatory dances all the way to another 4 and 12 record without me. Adios pretenders.

Posted by: pooftah2 | September 27, 2010 12:25 AM | Report abuse

Wait, so who won?

Posted by: Thinker_ | September 27, 2010 12:42 AM | Report abuse

Last year...Skins beat St Louis 9-7...and THAT was when the clamor began for Zorn's head...NOW we lose by a big margin,when does the demand for Shanahan's outing begin ?

Posted by: petebowling1 | September 27, 2010 1:34 AM | Report abuse

@teresae878
I e-mailed Mr. Steinberg a few months ago with that same question. I noted that I did not think we had the personnel to accomplish this. Right now even Orakpo is on track to get 7 or 8 sacks, which is very nice but not as much as last year. The idea of the 3-4 was to create turnovers, which we are succeeding at, but unfortunately that is not making up for the 30 points we gave up TO THE RAMS! I don't foresee us winning any of the next three, which will take us to 1-5. Hopefully by then we will see a better team.

@frannie825

Dude, why are you so angry? I'm glad someone pointed that out. Be angry at the team, not at people who post comments on blogs.


@everyone: People, we just got blown out by the Rams. Let me say again: we just got blown out by the Rams.........where do we go from here?

Posted by: joedavis7 | September 27, 2010 6:06 AM | Report abuse


Questions:

1. Was CP26 hurt, or was he disciplined for
that slide?
2. Why is OC Kyle on the field and not up in
the booth where he can see what's going on?
3. Why is it that the team wasn't mentally
prepared to play during the opening mins of
the game. That's on the coaching...
4. Why can't Shanny leave the disciplinary
duties to the Front Office and play his
best players?

We need W's and not be focused on making
cetain players better people.

Posted by: DeployedFan | September 27, 2010 7:07 AM | Report abuse

Its simple, the redskin players were outplayed and the coaches were out coached. This team continues to be mired in silly little squabbles. The entire group has no focus. This will not change until there is a clear vision and the players that don't buy in are processed out. The coach has never established a vision and instead talks in "coach speak". Many of the players are lost out on the field. They do not understand what they are doing or why they are there. This team thought they could show up and beat an inferior team. They were beaten by a SUPERIOR TEAM. They were beaten by a team of coaches and players on the same program following a clear set of expectations. The Redskins are going through the motions of another season with individual players focused on them and not the team. The coaching has changed, but the message is still fuzzy and out of focus.

Posted by: david_brown1 | September 27, 2010 7:29 AM | Report abuse

I Hate routing for this team I'm tired of them wasting my Sunday. At least the crappy lions are young. At least the crappy chiefs are young. You get my point. Another wasted year thank god I had the good sense to turn down my opportunity to purchase season tickets. I'm not sure I could have even sold the games I did not want to attend. Oh well I live in New York and got rid of DirectTv 2 years ago because of this crappy team, that was the second best move I made after burning all my Skins crap. So I guess I'm a fair weather fan according to some of you. What ever it would not be so bad if we were competitive against the teams that we were equally matched against,lost to the better teams and beat the teams that we were suppose to beat. But this team will always find a way to lose games.There are still players from 3 coaching staffs ago and we still suck coincidence I think not, Larry Centers, Clinton Portis, Santana Moss ,Philip Daniels, Carlos Rogers etc..... these guys would be second or third string on any other team in this league we need a fire sale these guys need a second chance some where else. There used to being losers and that is why they play like losers it will never change sometimes you cant coach losers they have to GO. This team will suck for another 20 years.

Posted by: bbdon | September 27, 2010 7:46 AM | Report abuse

Let's face it... The Redskins will never start winning again until Ted Leonsis buys the franchise.

Posted by: naopak | September 27, 2010 7:48 AM | Report abuse

With the personnel we have, we must go back to 4-3. Has a coaching staff ever reverted back in the middle of the season? I hope we do.

Posted by: luvdc808 | September 27, 2010 8:20 AM | Report abuse

Where are all the idiots that said Doughty is terrible? At least he can make a tackle. Moore just looks scared to make a hit. Moore did have a nice pick but gave up 2 touchdowns to lack of tackling and gave Bradford plenty of room to throw over the middle all game. Our whole defense just sucks.

Posted by: sjohnson12 | September 27, 2010 8:27 AM | Report abuse

Where are all the idiots that said Doughty is terrible? At least he can make a tackle. Moore just looks scared to make a hit. Moore did have a nice pick but gave up 2 touchdowns to lack of tackling and gave Bradford plenty of room to throw over the middle all game. Our whole defense just sucks.

Posted by: sjohnson12 | September 27, 2010 8:28 AM | Report abuse

Wait till next week when the Birds will be kicking some Redskin and McNaab booty. All DC teams SUCK! Philly fans are heading down today to take over your stadium again as we celebrate our 4th division championship!

Posted by: jpstuhr | September 27, 2010 9:09 AM | Report abuse

Does someone have Greg Blache's phone number?

Posted by: scribebob | September 27, 2010 9:30 AM | Report abuse

It's hard to transition from 4-3 to 3-4, and it's always hard to field a competitive team when you've wasted as many draft picks as the skins have in the past couple of years.

I knew moving out of the Cerrato era was going to be difficult, and I fully expected games like this in 2010. However, I never expected it to happen against the RAMS after playing competitive football for the past 2 weeks.

Stephon Heyer can NEVER start at Left tackle again.

Posted by: jbanks979 | September 27, 2010 9:57 AM | Report abuse

We don't have the people. It's very simple. The Shans need 2 drafts to right the ship and another year to bring it all together. 2013 is the magic year if everything goes right and the boy owner can keep his hands out of it. 2013 can't come soon enough.....Hope for the Redskins and a change in the Whitehouse.

Posted by: Howsthathopeandchangeworkingforyou | September 27, 2010 10:19 AM | Report abuse

Get rid of the Gibbs-era disco uniforms. Wear gold pants home and away. That'll at least be a step in the right direction.

Posted by: Overtime58 | September 27, 2010 10:26 AM | Report abuse

I thought these were the type games that Shanahan and Allen would make go away.

Posted by: tes20032001 | September 27, 2010 10:51 AM | Report abuse

Missed tackles, blown coverages, mental errors. These are the reasons we are losing these games. Moore came back from his injury only to have a HORRIBLE game! Sure he was given a gift wrapped interception, but what did he really do other than that? Our LB crew looks totally lost in this new system. The offense? Well lets just say that they are as inconsistant as they've been over the last 11 years. Father and son have not impressed me on the field so far. Sure you can run a military style training camp and get everyone on board in the preseason, but when that doesn't translate to wins in the regular season it's time to tweak some things. Our DBs are playing WAY to SOFT, which allowed for 1st down after 1st down yesterday. Our best play yesterday was a blocked field goal by special teams! I wasn't expecting to go far this season because I understand change takes time, but I was expecting to beat the few teams we are "supposed" to beat on this years schedule.

Posted by: dwilcox2 | September 27, 2010 10:51 AM | Report abuse

Agree with OT58. I was expecting the gold pants with the road jerseys and was disappointed. Looked like last year and played like last year. Love Gibbs like I love my family, but we should retire his look and leave it behind. Back to the classics really got me going opening night. All our great highlights are in the Gibbs era uniforms, but the real burgundy and gold was always my favorite.

Posted by: brad40 | September 27, 2010 10:54 AM | Report abuse

You know what is funny to me despite how bad we played yesterday? The fact that we are in 2nd place in our division. With a victory over Philly this Sunday we will be in 1st place. We are DEAD LAST in the NFL for yards allowed, 31st in the NFL for passing yards allowed. Seriously? Someone needs to really focus this week on stopping the pass. The pass is KILLING us! We allowed a rookie to pass for 235 yards........come on!

Posted by: dwilcox2 | September 27, 2010 11:12 AM | Report abuse

The 'Skins are the "Skins. Shanny the control freak coach is just the latest of the owner's multi-million dollar mistakes.

Posted by: ChicagoPete | September 27, 2010 11:26 AM | Report abuse

I used to be a redskins fan but after the death of the Sean taylor I packed my bags because lets face your team stinks and why would it not. Mike Shanahan was only successful with Elway and then you bring in Bruce Allen, a man that has not built a team his histroy shows. Oakland had old players that went to the Supper Bowl after that team went down hill. Tampa with Gruden he did nothing, that team was already strong before Bruce got there. SO nothing has really changed in the Redskins organization, so like every year enjoy the losing skid. Next Phily thats a lose, then Green Bay thats a lose, then the Colts thats a lose. By week Seven the team should be 1-6. God it feels so good to not be on a sinking ship anymore. Sorry Redskin fans but the posts writers can't hype up an awful football team anymore. Reality has set back in...

Posted by: opmeco | September 27, 2010 11:47 AM | Report abuse

"Redskins, looking miserable"

Gee.... YAH THINK???!!!

maybe Shani and son are thinking this wasn't a good idea after all. uhhhhh.. duhh...

McNabb is leaving the deadskins next season to play for either the Vikings or the Cardinals.

Portis can't run, no receivers can catch, our OLine is still another older version w/o Trent Williams, all the DBs are all talk, we have a fat DT/NT/NG or whatever FAT ALBERT is, we have a DE

Posted by: datruth21 | September 27, 2010 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Once again.. The Emperor Has No Clothes! A mediocre secondary is being exposed in a 3-4 Defense. Do you really think this offense can generate above 28 point games, or above 21 point games for that matter? They have a tough schedule ahead and this game was a must win for any Playoff chances.. Wait a second, did I hear Jim Mora say, "Playoffs?? Playoffs?? Are you kidding me??" Unfortunately, despite all the changes I see a 4-12 team once again.

Posted by: naopak | September 27, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse

I live here in Denver and can tell you Shanahan was always in the right place at the right time for most of his career.Took over a Dan Reeves Broncos team that was pretty loaded with talent and had the good fortune to have Kubiak/Collier and Gibbs as coaches. When those guys started leaving one by one lastly Kubiak he wasn't quite the Genious everyone claimed he was. Broncos started missing playoffs and he finally got run off. In short he's a little control freak that takes credit for others talent.He'll crash and burn in Washington the same way he did in Oakland.

Posted by: wbrrb146 | September 27, 2010 12:29 PM | Report abuse

We will not be successful until we go thru a couple of drafts & do not trade away our picks.

Posted by: kenobill2 | September 27, 2010 5:32 PM | Report abuse

We will not be successful until we go thru a couple of drafts & do not trade away our picks.

Posted by: kenobill2 | September 27, 2010 5:34 PM | Report abuse

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