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Shanahan's decision to bench McNabb gets panned


(By Jonathan Newton - TWP)


So you want to make Washington fans, sports media members and talk-radio callers spend two weeks acting like Brandon Banks stuck inside a pinball machine while freebasing 5-Hour Energy? Here are four recommendations:

1) Trade draft picks for a supposedly franchise quarterback.

2) Praise him as a fortune-changing acquisition, and make him the focus of your offseason marketing efforts.

3) Bench him for Rex Grossman with the eighth game of the season still on the line.

4) Say this by way of explanation:

"With a minute left and Rex knowing how to run that two-minute offense, I felt with the time and no timeouts, he gave us the best chance to win in that scenario, just knowing the terminology, what we've done, how we've run it. [That] puts a lot of pressure on the quarterback that hasn't been used to that terminology, and I thought that was the best scenario for us to have a chance to win....It gave us the best chance to win. What you have to do sometimes if you've got to understand everything is sped up when you don't have timeouts. It's got to come automatic....I thought it was the best scenario to put him in there in that situation."

And then you, Mike Shanahan, can just stand back and watch the festivities. Early returns, via the Comcast SportsNet and MASN post-game shows.

Antonio Freeman: "You don't wait until there's a minute left in a game and you sub in a guy who's been sitting cold for 59 minutes and expect him to come in and be effective. I don't care whether he knows the system or not. Donovan McNabb is the quarterback for this football team and he should have been in the football game late in the game today."

Trevor Matich: "This makes no sense at all....I don't get it, and it doesn't apply to my experience in the NFL. After all this time in the game, McNabb does know what the pass rush is doing. He knows when it's coming. He's got a feel for when he needs to move up in the pocket and side to side....The timing with the receivers deep down the field, I think that trumps anything to do with terminology. At that point anyway, you're in the two-minute drill with chaos happening around you because of the blitzing, you're not gonna be throwing on-time based on classroom situations. You're going to be throwing based on your intuition and your talent based on what you've accrued over the course of that entire game, and taking him out in favor of an academic benefit to me makes no sense whatsoever. And I really would love to hear a better explanation."

Brian Mitchell: "Mike Shanahan's saying that Grossman knew the offense better? Does Mike Shanahan really know this offense? Are they really running the offense that Mike Shanahan ran in Denver, or are they running more of an offense that Kyle ran, because this doesn't seem like what I saw in Denver. This seems like more of a pass-first, pass-happy offense. You basically made your quarterback look like a scapegoat. You made your quarterback look like he was the guy that caused all the problems today, and that is definitely a problem."

John Riggins: "I think everybody needs to get realistic at this point in the season and forget about all the marketing that we saw going into the season: R You In and all the bravado, get your club seats, what you do to sell a team with McNabb and the fact that you're bringing him down here, Bruce Allen crowing early in the season that for our second-round pick we got Donovan McNabb and acting like boy you really got a steal there. Realistically, you have to look at this and start to wonder, boyyy is it just more of the same?...And truly, the one thing that you do know is that Mike Shanahan is in charge. But now you see him going to Grossman and you've got two weeks before you play again. This is gonna be interesting."

By Dan Steinberg  | October 31, 2010; 6:59 PM ET
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Comments

Is Riggo drunk 100% of the time? He's got to be.

Posted by: ElSith | October 31, 2010 7:21 PM | Report abuse

Is Riggo drunk 100% of the time? He's got to be.

Posted by: ElSith | October 31, 2010 7:22 PM | Report abuse

Unsurprisingly, Riggins takes the longest (if perhaps bleakest) perspective.

Please, Great Pumpkin, give us Riggo in the radio booth. And soon.

Posted by: Hendo1 | October 31, 2010 7:24 PM | Report abuse

The Junkies said it best- Donovan McNUBB

Posted by: philarmy | October 31, 2010 7:33 PM | Report abuse

Yes Riggins is drunk all the time. McNabb is done, why are we kidding ourselves? Not saying Rex is the answer but Donovan looks tired after every play. It's rebuilding time folks. Lets get a young QB and add some youth to our O-line because everybody not named Trent Williams on the O-line stinks.

Posted by: tank1906 | October 31, 2010 7:35 PM | Report abuse

Yes Riggins is drunk all the time. McNabb is done, why are we kidding ourselves? Not saying Rex is the answer but Donovan looks tired after every play. It's rebuilding time folks. Lets get a young QB and add some youth to our O-line because everybody not named Trent Williams on the O-line stinks.

Posted by: tank1906 | October 31, 2010 7:36 PM | Report abuse

I wasn't a registered member until a few moments ago. I'm not even a Redskins fan, though, I don't dislike them either. I live outside of Baltimore, and thus, am a Ravens fan. But I had to sign up here just to say: "What was Shanahan thinking?!?!". It's easy to say it was a stupid decision after the fact (we learned that last season w/ Belichick). I get that.. but when the commentators said Grossman was coming in I laughed to myself and said "what?". Shanahan got what was coming to him, and now he's severed another relationship with one of his star players. Even though McNabb wasn't on his A-game, he still gives the Redskins the best chance to win the game. McNabb makes big plays when it matters, he's evasive, has mobility, and seems to persevere quite a bit. Not to mention that the organization went through all this trouble to get McNabb.. Shanahan picked him as his guy! I hope the Post and the rest of the Washington sports media outlets rip Shanahan apart for his decision.. one of the worst by any coach this whole season. He played with fire and got BURNED. To the Redskins fans, I apologize for going on and on, but if this was my team/coach I'd be so angry. Let your voices be heard!

Posted by: akamu24 | October 31, 2010 7:38 PM | Report abuse

I recall mentioning to a friend that I thought the deal for McNabb was more of the same Redskin dealing that they have done for years (Over the hill, overpriced, over their prime veterans for picks). He said no way and pointed to McNabb's past numbers and accomplishments just like the Redskins marketing department. Well, this isn't the past and more and more it looks like Reid and the Iggles got one over on us. That being said, I still don't see how you hand the keys to Grossman in that situation unless L'il Danny Snyder is making the calls again.

Hopefully the break will do McNabb some good and he comes back in two weeks ready to prove us wrong by getting the 'Skins in to the postseason.

Posted by: splitbill | October 31, 2010 7:42 PM | Report abuse

Jason Campbell threw for 310 yards and two touchdowns, and Oakland's defense delivered one of its best performance in years to help the Raiders even their record at the midpoint of the season with a 33-3 victory over the Seattle Seahawks on Sunday.

Posted by: gwest1 | October 31, 2010 7:50 PM | Report abuse

I said it when they hired him, he is a joke as a head coach and his son and the rest of the coaching staff is even a bigger joke, he stabbed Dan Reeves in the back when he was in Denver to get his job a widely known fact when Shannahan was Reeves Off.Coordinator. There was absolutely no excuse for what took place in Detroit today pulling McNabb was bush league and petty and Shannahan showed just what kind of coach he really is,i wonder just what Dan Synder thinks of his "saviour" now.

Posted by: dargregmag | October 31, 2010 7:54 PM | Report abuse

Egohan does it again,
First:Stop rotating hoyer and brown it's in the middle of the season and you and your staff still haven't decided who should play.I cna go on and on but here is the answer.Lets face Shanahan your glory days or over the league has figured out your offense and haslett defense is a joke!!!

\\\\\\\\\\

Posted by: theturfman | October 31, 2010 7:55 PM | Report abuse

I'll bet you that McNabb gave Kyle some crap on the sidelines or on the headset and Kyle ran to dad. Dad got upset and benched McNabb. Only possible scenario.

Posted by: MKadyman | October 31, 2010 8:14 PM | Report abuse

the only thing wrong about the benching is that it didn't happen S O O N E R

No more Donovan please. its painful to watch him. He not only doesn't help the team, he blatantly hurts em.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 31, 2010 8:22 PM | Report abuse

McNabb's not perfect, but look at what he has to work with:

1. A terrible offensive line (great off-season work here, huh),
2. Running backs with average NFL ability, at best,
3. One professional wide receiver, a rookie with some ability, and the over-the-hill gang, and lastly,
4. A coaching staff trying to re-make his game after 11 successful years in the league.

Name any great QB in the league today and ask yourself if they could be successful under these conditions. The 'Skins are a mediocre team at best. I hope Donovan doesn't get killed back there.

Posted by: cliffdweller | October 31, 2010 8:42 PM | Report abuse

Come on Redskins fan .. lets be real about this .. the problem with the skins offense is their offensive line .. the center can no longer block anyone .. their guards can't block anyone .. that's one of their problems .. the other is .. no receivers .. Moss is only good if he's wide open .. that's why we have problems in the red zone .. to have Galloway still in the mix tells you all you need to know ... it was a real bad move on Shanahan .. the line couldn't open any holes to run and they couldn't stop the pass rush .. to bench McNabb made no sense at all .. to say Grossman gave the team a better chance made no sense .. what he just did was nake it so that the skins will be looking for another QB next year .. because McNabb is not staying here and I don't blame him ... lets say this about Shanahan .. he has made this team a professional team in one year .. but we as fans have to be concern about the future .. If I remember correctly .. we had 5/6 draft picks this yr .. only 1 or 2 made the team .. you cannot build a team with picks like that .. and don't say the late rounds picks doesn't mean anything .. those are the players you build your team around .. the same problem Shanahan had at Denver in picking players happen in his first draft here .. that's what we as fans have to be concern about .. you can't really say in Shanahan we trust (in picks at least) because he has not shown he can pick good picks to build on .. and now with the benching of McNabb for a QB that can't move in the pocket and you know your OL cannot block .. let's you know that you have to be concern with his judgement ... there were no OL adjustments at have time to give the QB time to throw .. or room to run ... and you really thing a QB that can't move will be better for this team .. NO WAY ... 4-4 for this team is good considering it takes more than one year to rebuild a team .. and with this team . .it's going to take time .. but when the coach make a decision like this and can't hit on the draft .. it going to take more than a few years to help them ..

Posted by: hindukat1 | October 31, 2010 8:49 PM | Report abuse

McNabb is the best QB the Redskins have, and he can win. Protect him, get a running game, then see how he does. Pulling him for Grossman is absolutely the wrong decision. Now the coaching staff needs to smooth things over or risk losing the team for the second half. Shanahan made a dumb decision here, admit your mistake Mike and move on. Even Brian Billick would have made a better decision here.

Posted by: bfjam | October 31, 2010 8:55 PM | Report abuse

I'll make my comments brief. No way Gallowaway is better than D Thomas, or Lichstenger or whateva is better than Dockery. Problem is they are not Shani's guys. That arrogance will keep us from winning this season and as long as he is here. Its just ridiculous to see how far an ego can drag you down.

Posted by: flsnupe | October 31, 2010 8:59 PM | Report abuse

I'll make my comments brief. No way Gallowaway is better than D Thomas, or Lichstenger or whateva is better than Dockery. Problem is they are not Shani's guys. That arrogance will keep us from winning this season and as long as he is here. Its just ridiculous to see how far an ego can drag you down.

Posted by: flsnupe | October 31, 2010 9:00 PM | Report abuse

What game were you guys watching? I realize that Donovan was getting beat up, but a lot of his throws were just terrible, right from the start his execution was just horrendous. Come on! His throw into triple coverage was absolutely unacceptable, too dumb, let alone his game ending interception. I thought Mike did the exact right thing in replacing him at the exact right time, it was brilliant. Let him stew about it for a couple of weeks, what a motivational ploy that not many couches would have the balls to do, if any. The Shannahan’s are not as dumb as some think.

Posted by: ricoman | October 31, 2010 9:00 PM | Report abuse

I'll make my comments brief. No way Gallowaway is better than D Thomas, or Lichstenger or whateva is better than Dockery. Problem is they are not Shani's guys. That arrogance will keep us from winning this season and as long as he is here. Its just ridiculous to see how far an ego can drag you down.

Posted by: flsnupe | October 31, 2010 9:01 PM | Report abuse

McNabb continues to make poor decisions that end up as interceptions near the end of the game. At some point he has to accept that he can't just wish the ball through multiple defenders and start making better plays (like throwing to a wide open Fred Davis instead of going deep into double coverage). I think McNabb has to get it into his head that he's not the hero and start playing smarter. My hope is that Shanny benched him for another dumb decision and when he comes back in two weeks he makes better throws and better choices. My fear is that Shanny has simply lost confidence in him (or he's making a scapegoat out of him) and we're going to be just good enough to miss out on getting a new franchise QB in the draft.

If his reason really was what he says it was, then our head coach is insane. Exhibit A for the defense of Shanny's sanity: we haven't signed McNabb to a long extension.

Posted by: nkeitt | October 31, 2010 9:06 PM | Report abuse

donovan mcnabb may suck but he's the BEST chance the skins have to win. shanny's like gibbs II behind the times and if he listens to his POS son who never played and can't be respected, he's a fool. If anyone on the sideline said replace donnie with grossman he should be fired on the spot!

Posted by: jdb70 | October 31, 2010 9:24 PM | Report abuse

friends, the truth is coming out...shannibag is nothing without Elway, TD, Sharpe, and Steve Atwater... He has bum street to work with here...secondly, McChicken was done in Philly and there is no way they let someone who they think is better than Kevin Kolb walk away. They fleeced Macaca Allen for a 2nd and you can see why they never blinked at the offer. we are destined to be the Nationals of the NFL until Snyder goes and they implode KFC stadium, change the name, and start from scratch like KC and others are doing.

Posted by: doyouktt | October 31, 2010 9:26 PM | Report abuse

I appreciate Shani-baby trying to send a message to McNabb but unfortunately he chose the wrong time! The Lions have our # point blank period.....no O-line...a defense that cant make a stop when it counts and just ONE TALL possesion receiver which every team in the NFL seems to have but us would make a huge difference! If u think about it we wouldnt be in half of the games we've one this year without the veteran presence that Donovan provides. Yes that was a bad decision he made with us up by 5 but the team after he does that still feels like it can win when maybe last year everybody hangs their head and gives up....

Posted by: thumz816 | October 31, 2010 9:46 PM | Report abuse

I appreciate Shani-baby trying to send a message to McNabb but unfortunately he chose the wrong time! The Lions have our # point blank period.....no O-line...a defense that cant make a stop when it counts and just ONE TALL possesion receiver which every team in the NFL seems to have but us would make a huge difference! If u think about it we wouldnt be in half of the games we've one this year without the veteran presence that Donovan provides. Yes that was a bad decision he made with us up by 5 but the team after he does that still feels like it can win when maybe last year everybody hangs their head and gives up....

Posted by: thumz816 | October 31, 2010 9:47 PM | Report abuse

I'll make my comments brief. No way Gallowaway is better than D Thomas, or Lichstenger or whateva is better than Dockery. Problem is they are not Shani's guys. That arrogance will keep us from winning this season and as long as he is here. Its just ridiculous to see how far an ego can drag you down.

Posted by: flsnupe |

My sentiments exactly! Been saying it for weeks now to whomever will listen!

Posted by: iubiquity | October 31, 2010 10:12 PM | Report abuse

YES-It was all D M's fault.

He was off sides on the Lions attempted field goal-that ended up as a TD.Then DM STRUCK AGAIN on the 95yd TD return that was called back for a bush league penalty called against him.

Then he could'nt block the Lions defensive
linemen so that he could throw a pass.AND he dropped 2 -2 point attempts that his pass hit his hands and went thru them.

And to top it off he did not call the 3 consecutive infractions against the lions with the
2nd one being the bump/shove against #13 late in the game.

The man should have gotten a purple heart for as many times as he hit the ground.

Skins have 2 weeks to figure it out.

SERIOUSLY you see certain players almost every week making the same mistakes.Coach
must have a good clue.

Posted by: GEARAUTO1 | October 31, 2010 10:13 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: flsnupe |

My sentiments exactly! Been saying it for weeks now to whomever will listen!

Posted by: iubiquity

It does not, however, in any way exonerate McNabb, whom I have never heard blame himself for all the horrid passes he's tossed.

Posted by: iubiquity | October 31, 2010 10:17 PM | Report abuse

JOKE

Posted by: Capitalist-1 | October 31, 2010 10:39 PM | Report abuse

Let's see. We grab McNabb--thinking, of course, that we have outsmarted one of the canniest coaches in the NFL in Andy Reid--for a couple more draft picks we sorely need. Then Campbell is dumped to Oakland on the basis he is a bad fit for the Skins offense. That after having changed it about 5 times while he was here. Now, Campbell has had 2 straight 100+ QB days in a row--and 3 so far this season--all while learning yet a new system. McNabb, of course, can't learn ONE new system and is floundering all over. Now, he was benched for--that's right--not being able to learn a new system. So, we are down a couple of picks, have no real QB to look at, have one graying in age, have traded away a young one who was improving every year in spite of--that' right, a lousy OL, crappy WRs and not much running--the same thing the apologists are saying to justify McNabb's crappy performance. When Campbell was QB with all of this, it was always his fault. Now, with McNabb it's all the things Campbell had to deal with making it THEIR fault. Right, and the Brooklyn Bridge is for sale too.

Posted by: jbkulp | October 31, 2010 10:44 PM | Report abuse

I have been wrestling with this all afternoon.....and I have yet to come to any logical conclusion as to why Shanahan put in Rex. How could a QB with no live snaps all season and nothing to speak of in the prior year...run an offense under those conditions. Did Shanahan miss curfew last night? Regardless of what Mcnabb has done as a Redskin to date..I can only think of 4...maybe 5 quarterbacks in the LEAGUE that I would want running a 2 minute drill to win the game. This has changed the entire dynamic of the team..have you read the comments from the players??? We are in a period of transition and I hold on to the hope that our team will build something that will contend by 2013. We need real leaders.

Posted by: jacobmulkey | October 31, 2010 10:51 PM | Report abuse

One of the single worst coaching calls I've ever seen. McNabb was running for his life all game and made countless plays out of nothing. He's not perfect but gives us our best chance to win. Defenses put huge pressure on him with just their front 4. The rest of the team can sit back and blanket the receivers. Oh yeah, and no need to worry about the run game as you're dealing with a 3rd string running back. The Skins are what they are, an 8-8 team with very little talent (remember Cerrato?)..it's going to take time to rebuild this team. Throwing your QB under the bus with all the other issues on this team is inexcusable. The move single handedly could have destroyed much of what Shanahan has improved since he's been here.

Posted by: bulk72 | October 31, 2010 10:52 PM | Report abuse

Jason Campbell, 300 plus yards, Raiders 4-4. Just sayin'

Posted by: tony28 | October 31, 2010 11:09 PM | Report abuse

Jason Campbell, 300 plus yards, Raiders 4-4. Just sayin'

Posted by: tony28 | October 31, 2010 11:10 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan replaced McNabb so it would get everybody worked up and they would forget about him going for it on 4th down at their own 20 yard line with 2:10 left to play, essentially giving the Lions 3 more points. McNabb lost the game with his crappy reads and pitiful throws so I think he deserved to be benched. He really looked terrible, he got benched, gave him something to think about the next week or so and hopefully he will come back swinging, if not the coaches let him know that poor play will get you off the team no matter who you are.

Posted by: shamusliam | October 31, 2010 11:19 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan replaced McNabb so it would get everybody worked up and they would forget about him going for it on 4th down at their own 20 yard line with 2:10 left to play, essentially giving the Lions 3 more points. McNabb lost the game with his crappy reads and pitiful throws so I think he deserved to be benched. He really looked terrible, he got benched, gave him something to think about the next week or so and hopefully he will come back swinging, if not the coaches let him know that poor play will get you off the team no matter who you are.

Posted by: shamusliam | October 31, 2010 11:20 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan replaced McNabb so it would get everybody worked up and they would forget about him going for it on 4th down at their own 20 yard line with 2:10 left to play, essentially giving the Lions 3 more points. McNabb lost the game with his crappy reads and pitiful throws so I think he deserved to be benched. He really looked terrible, he got benched, gave him something to think about the next week or so and hopefully he will come back swinging, if not the coaches let him know that poor play will get you off the team no matter who you are.

Posted by: shamusliam | October 31, 2010 11:21 PM | Report abuse

Well, it took Mike Shanahan less than 2 months to panic.

This season is over. Hope everyone enjoyed the 4 wins. There ain't gonna be many more. Checking the schedule, I don't see too many teams worse than the Lions coming up.

If Shanahan really wanted to bench some guys who didn't give the team the best chance to win, he should have started with the group that puts "offensive" into offensive line. Blaming McNabb for today's performance is like blaming the Christians for their effort in The Roman Coliseum.

It would be one thing if the Redskins had a real hot-shot backup QB that everyone knew was going to be the starter soon anyway. Instead, what the Skins got is Rex Grossman.

Shanahan benched Donovan McNabb for Rex Grossman? Really?? Rex Grossman??? Because Rex gave them a better chance of winning????

Thanks for playing, Coach Shanahan. They'll be a nice parting gift for you and a copy of the home game.

NEXT!

Kevin Olson
Manassas, VA

Posted by: noslok | October 31, 2010 11:52 PM | Report abuse

Shanny did it to show everyone that he does not care who you are. 1oo million dollar dude or new franchise guy. You do not play hard or well and YOU WILL BE BENCHED. He can't bench the oline although I am sure he would love to. # 5 has to play better. Regardless of Oline and regardless of running game. Good QB's pull it off.

Posted by: mustang_johnny1 | November 1, 2010 12:02 AM | Report abuse

One reason Mike Shanahan might have sat Donovan McNabb is the slowness with which McNabb ran the 2-minute drill against Indy late in the game when the 'Skins were two scores down...

I think part of it was that, and part of it was the dumb throw for a pick at the end, when the 'Skins needed to milk the clock and get just a few first downs.

I agree that it must have been extremely difficult for Rex Grossman to come in there cold. Both of the QBs were treated like pinballs.

By the way, here is a list of all the collegiate awards that Ndamukong "Boy Named" Suh won, according to Wikipedia:

2009 Bronko Nagurski Trophy winner as the top defensive player in the nation.
CBS Sportsline Defensive Player of the Year.
Bill Willis Trophy
Lombardi Award for the top collegiate lineman or linebacker
Chuck Bednarik Award as the nation's best defensive player Outland Trophy
AP Player of the Year (first defensive player to ever win this.)

Redskins probably need to win 5 of 8 games to get into the playoffs. Here's the schedule. How does someone predict outcomes when we lose to the Lions and Rams, beat Green Bay, and lose to Indy by a whisker? The "Lost Wages" oddsmakers must hate to have to calculate points in Redskins games.

Week 9: Bye
Week 10: Eagles at RedskinsMonday, Nov. 15
8:30 p.m.ESPN, DC-20
Week 11: Redskins at TitansSunday, Nov. 211 p.m.Fox
Week 12: Vikings at RedskinsSunday, Nov. 281 p.m.Fox
Week 13: Redskins at GiantsSunday, Dec. 51 p.m.Fox
Week 14: Buccaneers at RedskinsSunday, Dec. 121 p.m.Fox
Week 15: Redskins at CowboysSunday, Dec. 191 p.m.Fox
Week 16: Redskins at JaguarsSunday, Dec. 261 p.m.Fox
Week 17: Giants at RedskinsSunday, Jan. 21 p.m.Fox

Posted by: ACounter | November 1, 2010 12:14 AM | Report abuse

I've said enough about the Shans' hopeless incompetence. In an ugly loss, I have nothing but praise for Haslett and the D. Fewest yards given in the season, turnovers, and kept the game from being a hopeless stomping. Please Danny, ignore this and DO NOT make Haz the HC - that would be a disaster (see the Saints during his tenure).

Posted by: fr3dmars | November 1, 2010 12:25 AM | Report abuse

McNabb has looked terrible most of the season. there have been flashes, but not enough, and he's clearly not very bright. they give the Wonderlic for a reason, and he scored very low, like retard low. that translates directly to how fast you learn a new system. and it's not going well at this point.

I like the benching, but hate the backup LOL.

Posted by: greatteamdan | November 1, 2010 1:00 AM | Report abuse

I think it will Donovan a few more years before he will really grasp the two-minute drill. But when he does he will be a good QB in this league!

Posted by: josettes | November 1, 2010 1:09 AM | Report abuse

Problems are:
1.Play Calling / Scheme does not fit personnel

2. O line is awful

3. Receivers are awful

Without McNabb this team is way worse than it is, most other qb's behind this line in combo with the slow developing pass plays that are called would be hospitalized.

Posted by: twpw | November 1, 2010 1:23 AM | Report abuse

I used to think Little Danny was the Washington version of Jerry Jones. In fact, it's Mike Shanahan who is the Washington version of Jerry Jones.

In each case, ego is more important than success. In the case of the Cowboys, Jerry is more interested in selling tickets and jerseys than he is in winning. In the case of the Redskins, Shanahan is more interested in showing he's in charge and trying to show he can re-build what he had in Denver than he is in winning.

The only way McNabb stays is if they hit him with the franchise tag, but he won't be worth the money that will take. At the same time, the Eagles will do what they always do — finding legitimate players in the draft, and for the second year in a row, one will be from Washington's draft pick.

Not only is Shanahan conning the Washington fans and media, he's getting millions of dollars a year to do it. Everyone should be so lucky.

Posted by: DC2Dallas | November 1, 2010 2:57 AM | Report abuse

Jason Campbell must be looking at this and saying(bad offensive line,no running game,no trust from coaches,negative media,fickle fans)good luck Donovan because it does'nt get any better,they blamed me for everything last year and now its your turn,im glad im out!

Posted by: bluesbrother | November 1, 2010 7:58 AM | Report abuse

McNabb's new team ally is FatAlbert. Need I say more?

Posted by: KDSmallJr | November 1, 2010 8:09 AM | Report abuse

The sky-is-falling attitude of many of you makes me tired.

We all know we didn't have a great team this year, but we all knew that with Shanahan and McNabb, you would be headed in the right direction. We won 4 games all of last year. We've won 4 at the halfway point this year, with the only true improvement personnel-wise being Donovan and Williams. Did any of you REALLY think we would go out and win 11 or 12 games, a 7 or 8 game improvement in one year, with very little roster changes? Come on. However, the fact is, that we're still 2-0 in the division, and with the Birds playing the Colts this weekend, and the Giants traveling to Seattle, there is a chance that we're still just a game back after 9 weeks. As weird as it sounds, 8 or 9 wins might take this division.

So we lost a game that we thought we would win. We've also won some we thought we would lose. Plus, Detroit has averaged 33 points in their last 4-5 games, they aren't as awful as they used to be!

Upgrade the O-Line and the receiving corps, and hopefully the WR's, and next year will look even better than this year.

Donovan is our best chance to win, this year and next, so let's let him play. The season isn't over, people, stop acting like we were mathematically eliminated yesterday.

Posted by: burritodawg | November 1, 2010 9:22 AM | Report abuse

Once again the Deadskins have hired an over-priced over the hill talent and named him the saviour of the franchise. Except it's not McNabb who is over-priced and over the hill. It is Shanahan. This dude is done!!! He can't inspire. He can't motivate. And he can't coach. Denver knew it and got rid of his butt. Now he's Washington's problem.

Under him the team sucks. The offense sucks. The defense sucks (they gave up 30 points; Rex Grossman gave up the other 7). You can't blame McNabb for all of that. The only person who has responsibility for both the offense and the defense sucking is the Coach. And then he calls this bone head play. What kind of idiot changes QBs with a minute to play? Shanahan, that's who.

At the beginning of the year I was so close to jumping on the Deadskins' bandwagon, because all the parts seemed aligned for greatness. But when Shanny pulled that crap with AH, I knew that he cared more about being in charge than he did about winning. It was then that I knew that this team wouldn't accomplish a damn thing under him.

And with every game I am proven right.

Posted by: Armymule | November 1, 2010 9:45 AM | Report abuse

Did anyone but me notice Kyle Shanahan in a state of frustrated dismay during a fourth quarter play mouthing "what the f... is he doing?" as if DMac was calling plays of his own choosing instead of what the O coordinator was sending in?

Posted by: barry58 | November 1, 2010 9:56 AM | Report abuse

Jason Campbell, 300 plus yards, Raiders 4-4. Just sayin'
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Week 6 @SF 8-21 83 yards 0 TDs 2 INTs just sayin'
Week 2 STL 8-15 87 yards 0 TDs 1 INT just sayin'
Week 1 @TEN 22-37 180 yards 1 TD 1 INT just sayin'

Cherry-picking stats is fun!

Posted by: StuScott_Booyahs | November 1, 2010 10:48 AM | Report abuse

Brian Mitchell is a relative of McNabb's and doesn't have any credibility in commenting on anything related to him.

Posted by: poguesmahone | November 1, 2010 11:22 AM | Report abuse

Blame McNabb all you want. Unless you put Peyton Manning behind this O-line you will get sacks and a poor running game.

Note to Kyle S. - Redskins must run the ball to win. That's who we are.

Posted by: mdflorals | November 1, 2010 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Did anyone but me notice Kyle Shanahan in a state of frustrated dismay during a fourth quarter play mouthing "what the f... is he doing?" as if DMac was calling plays of his own choosing instead of what the O coordinator was sending in?
barry58 | November 1, 2010 9:56 AM
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There was a great split-screen earlier in the game as well (or it might have been the same instance). One side was a close-up on McNabb's face, the other was Kyle Shanahan with his hands out at his sides in the "WTF?" position. I was fully expecting a Bog post devoted to it, to be honest. Heh!

I also expected a new "net speed record" for a post involving Brandon Banks' John Wall dance after his TD return - the one that counted.

Posted by: Goat_74 | November 1, 2010 11:38 AM | Report abuse

Coach made a decision in the heat of the moment to try and give his team the best shot at winning. Looking back, may not have been the best choice. It is easy for us to criticize and curse Shanahan, but we do not know the whole deal. To me, I would have left McNabb in to finish. Granted, he was off all day - but allow him to redeem himself. The bigger issues involve blocking, defense, and penalties. Make improvements on those and they'll start to win.

Posted by: elm05 | November 1, 2010 11:44 AM | Report abuse

"At the beginning of the year I was so close to jumping on the Deadskins' bandwagon, because all the parts seemed aligned for greatness"
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@Armymule true Redskins fans have no desire for fairweather fans. If you can't hang with us during the hard times you can't hang at all. Good day.

Posted by: Tiffany010 | November 1, 2010 11:52 AM | Report abuse

DM will look good in Purple next year.

Maybe the coach was sending a message to the entire team by benching its leader-with 2 weeks to think about it.

DM/Skins 2nd in sacks allowed--Packs QB AR looked terrible a few yrs ago for the same reason.

DM is not having a great statistical? year
but Skins are 4-4--Cowboys 1-6.

We forget how brutal last year was.

Give the Lions some credit.They had 4th and something @the 4 min mark and went for the TD INSTEAD of a field goal and it worked for the go ahead TD.If they go for the field goal--different story-BUT it worked and i believe it was between 3 defenders.Lions QB SACKED ONCE by AH-DM-sacked 6 times-11 hits and 15 hurries.....

DM-for his sake- in purple next year.

Posted by: GEARAUTO1 | November 1, 2010 12:10 PM | Report abuse

If the Redskins organization doesn't
re-sign DM5 just prior to the nationally televisized Monday night Philly game then
all semblence of team cohesion will be lost. To show a lack of confidence in your
newly acquired All Pro QB to run a two-minute drill demonstrates poor judgment by
both Shanahans. Besides, if they felt he
couldn't run it after 8 weeks, then that's
a coaching fault. To reinstate confidence
and renew a sense of cohesion, prepare a
new contract for DM5. Hopefully, he will
accept it given that he will be facing Philly next time out. It would be a great
psychological bench mark just prior to the game.

Posted by: DeployedFan | November 1, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse

#5 will start MNF,

some people say Shanny is nothing without Elway? You guys are brilliant. How many SB's did Dan Reeves win with Elway? How many did Shula win with Marino? You may have talent on your team but you still have to manage it into a winner.

# 5 had to be benched. The backup is not better. No matter. Point is, Shanny was willing to bench him. Now let's see where the real leaders are.

Posted by: mustang_johnny1 | November 1, 2010 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Here are 2 observations after watching yesterday's game in it's entirety:

1. The offensive line is flat out awful. They won't win consistently until that gets fixed.

2. The Lions are much better than their 2-5 record indicates.

Posted by: BigDaddy651 | November 1, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Is Mike Shanahan the GM or the Director of Player Personnel of this team?
He certainly doesn't coach. Kyle runs the O, Haslett runs the D. Mike seems to do some game planning and makes all the personnel decisions, that's it. How has that worked out? While the roster may look different from last year there is still very little talent and no draft picks. Just because the names are different doesn't mean the talent is any better. Same ol' story! The next 5 years of misery should be enjoyable! Hail!!

Posted by: imcapeman | November 1, 2010 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Rigggins is one thing "Redskin kool-aid drinkers" like Larry Michael can't stand.......HONEST!

Posted by: hughsie48 | November 1, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Rigggins is one thing "Redskin kool-aid drinkers" like Larry Michael can't stand.......HONEST!

Posted by: hughsie48 | November 1, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

At his best, Grossman has never been a decent quarterback - not even when he had all those Spurrier-hired guns to play with him. Remember Danny Wuerfel? At any rate, the benching of McNabb and the resulting catastophe produced by Grossman make me wonder about Shanahan. Bill McPeak, where are you, now that we need you?

Posted by: sameolddoc | November 1, 2010 3:10 PM | Report abuse

At his best, Grossman has never been a decent quarterback - not even when he had all those Spurrier-hired guns to play with him. Remember Danny Wuerfel? At any rate, the benching of McNabb and the resulting catastophe produced by Grossman make me wonder about Shanahan. Bill McPeak, where are you, now that we need you?

Posted by: sameolddoc | November 1, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse

People need to chill. Anyone who thinks the outcome would've been any different if he'd kept McNabb in the game obviously didn't see the Houston or Indy games (or McNabb's final series in yesterday's game).

I'm still reasonably confident that he'll be better in this offense by the end of the season, but when you're watching the same old story unfold again, why not try something different?

Trying to pass judgement on Shanny at this point in the season is pretty senseless. Unless you think Zorn's first 8 games were a good indicator of anything.

Posted by: SHLL | November 1, 2010 3:17 PM | Report abuse

People need to chill. Anyone remember how McNabb managed the late game offense against Houston and Indy (not to mention his last drive of yesterday's game)?

I'm still pretty confident that McNabb will get a lot better in this offense by season's end, but when you're seeing the same old story unfold again, why the hell not try something different?

It obviously didn't work, but it's a little early to be judging Shanny one way or the other. Unless you think Zorn's performance at the 8-game mark was any indicator of his ability.

Posted by: SHLL | November 1, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Unreal, so Shanny now has a problem with McNabb. With the exception of Elway, what has this guy ever done. He's like a mad scientist who likes keep experimenting, looking for a magic formula that doesn't exist.
And what will be the end result? Another high draft pick, flushed down the toilet bowl. It never ends.
The next Dynasty? The Patriots, 6-1, and 2 picks in each of the first 4 rounds in next years draft. Thats how you run an organization!

Posted by: ice4757 | November 1, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Unreal, so Shanny now has a problem with McNabb. With the exception of Elway, what has this guy ever done. He's like a mad scientist who likes keep experimenting, looking for a magic formula that doesn't exist.
And what will be the end result? Another high draft pick, flushed down the toilet bowl. It never ends.
The next Dynasty? The Patriots, 6-1, and 2 picks in each of the first 4 rounds in next years draft. Thats how you run an organization!

Posted by: ice4757 | November 1, 2010 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Unreal, so Shanny now has a problem with McNabb. With the exception of Elway, what has this guy ever done. He's like a mad scientist who likes keep experimenting, looking for a magic formula that doesn't exist.
And what will be the end result? Another high draft pick, flushed down the toilet bowl. It never ends.
The next Dynasty? The Patriots, 6-1, and 2 picks in each of the first 4 rounds in next years draft. Thats how you run an organization!

Posted by: ice4757 | November 1, 2010 4:08 PM | Report abuse

I was just looking at some of the game tapes
and the Zebras really jabbed the skins.

On one play #90 of the Lions held #74 and maybe another skin with the zebra there and #92 looped and sacked DM on 4th down @around 4 min mark.Its only 1 game but the league should get some of the film.It goes on a lot but zebra was right there.

Randy Moss waived by the Vikings.................

Posted by: GEARAUTO1 | November 1, 2010 7:24 PM | Report abuse

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