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Posted at 4:33 PM ET, 11/22/2010

Atlantic 11 Week 2: Georgetown Remains on top

By Dan Steinberg

(By Jim R. Bounds - AP)

One thing you always learn by tending to the several dozen Atlantic 11 voters: Democracy is so overrated. Either that, or my form for voting on the best men's basketball teams in the District, Maryland and Virginia is too hard to use.

Georgetown -- an undefeated Big East team that's all over the national polls -- remains in first place, but it's hardly unanimous, with already-beaten teams like Maryland and Virginia Tech and Virginia attracting first-place votes. And then there are the stray votes for schools like Navy (1-5) and Coppin State (0-2) and Howard (1-3), which is coming off an 18-point loss to St. Francis of New York. I mean, really, two voters who included Howard on your ballot? That 18-point loss convinced you that the Bison really ought to be ranked among the DMV's best?

Feel free to never pay attention to this again. However, if you're still intrigued...

This week's biggest changes: VCU jumps from 7th to 5th. American jumps from 10th to 8th. George Mason falls from 6th to 9th. And James Madison falls out, replaced by new No. 11 VMI. Nationally, Georgetown is ranked 16th in both the AP and coaches' poll. Virginia Tech is 26/28th. Richmond got 5 votes in the AP poll, and VMI got 1, almost certainly from John Feinstein.

(Speaking of which, voter Bill Fitzgerald provides some nuggets on that latter team: VMI already has a win over Virginia-Wise, but they'll face bigger tests later in the season against Virginia-Wilbon and Virginia-Boswell. Also, they'd have been no match for Virginia-Kornheiser back in the day.)

Here are this week's results, followed by overall record, overall points and first-place votes.

1. Georgetown (5-0) 500 (45)

2. Maryland (3-2) 383 (3)

3. Virginia Tech (2-1) 376 (2)

4. Old Dominion (3-1) 330 (1)

5. VCU (3-0) 277 (1)

6t. Richmond (3-1) 180 (1)

6t. Virginia (2-1) 180 (1)

8. American (4-0) 169

9. George Mason (2-2) 155

10. George Washington (1-1) 69

11. VMI (4-0) 68

Also receiving votes: James Madison 46, William & Mary 42, Hampton 34, Loyola 33, Morgan State 26, Radford 23, Mount St. Mary's 17, Navy 12, Longwood 9, Howard 7, Md.-Eastern Shore 5, Towson 5, Coppin State 4, Norfolk State 2, Liberty 1, UMBC 1.

By Dan Steinberg  | November 22, 2010; 4:33 PM ET
Categories:  Atlantic 11, College Basketball  
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GO KEYDETS!!! 'Runnin 'Roos will run you off the court...

Posted by: rademaar | November 22, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

VMI should definitely be in the Top 5! They are receiving votes for the Top 25 in the nation. Give them some props!....And VCU should be #1 if they 1) win the NIT Tip-Off this weekend or 2) beat ranked #Tennessee and lose the championship game. Georgetown has not played a decent team yet. They barely beat ODU

Posted by: psock1 | November 22, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

And Virginia-Kornheiser couldn't handle the full-court press, especially on Monday Nights...

Posted by: rademaar | November 22, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

@psock1, I hope you're joking.

VMI has 3 wins against non-division 1 schools; both division 1 schools are terrible.

VMI is receiving one (1) top 25 vote. Georgetown is receiving 528 top 25 votes. By your logic that should make Georgetown like 528 times better.

Posted by: CByrd1 | November 22, 2010 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Virginia was also no match for Washington. I think they'd be hard-pressed to finish in the top half of a tournament made up of DMV teams.

Posted by: dimesmakedollars | November 23, 2010 9:04 AM | Report abuse

I love this poll. Miss the pith, but it's still awesome.

Go VCU! Beat UT Wed. @ 7 on espn2 from MSG.

Posted by: patrick15 | November 23, 2010 10:11 AM | Report abuse

Big win for ODU over my Xavier Musketeers last night. They have another good squad this season.

Posted by: Kev29 | November 23, 2010 10:38 AM | Report abuse

People would be more intrigued if you brought back the pith.

(Maybe you should weed out some of the voters who don't pay attention as well...)

Posted by: nordicus | November 23, 2010 11:09 AM | Report abuse

Spiders will put the smack-down on ODU and VCU in quick succession and make a move on the top spot in the Atlantic 11 by the start of conference play.

Posted by: heycoachb | November 23, 2010 11:15 AM | Report abuse


I wasn't saying that VMI should be #1. I was just saying the should be considered in the Top 5 since they are in the Top 50 in the nation.

Posted by: psock1 | November 23, 2010 12:10 PM | Report abuse


Sorry, I don't think they're top 50 in the nation, and I don't think they're top 5 in the DMV. Maybe top 20, but the good thing is that if they really should be top 5...they will keep winning and move up. Beat a couple more division-1-non-horrible teams.

Posted by: CByrd1 | November 23, 2010 12:25 PM | Report abuse


From the AP Top 25.....

Others receiving votes: Virginia Tech 109, West Virginia 99, Butler 96, Louisville 76, UNLV 66, Florida State 36, Vanderbilt 31, Georgia 28, Wichita State 16, UCLA 10, Connecticut 8, Arizona 5, Wisconsin 5, Richmond 5, Saint Mary's 4, Mississippi State 3, Iowa State 1, California 1, Virginia Military 1, Xavier 1

That's all I'm saying. And they are undefeated.


Richmond loses to VCU every year. You have to go back like 5 years to the last time they beat VCU

Posted by: psock1 | November 23, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse


How has Georgeotown not beaten anyone?

We have 5 wins and 4 of those wins have been away from home.

we beat ODU @ ODU. ODU should be number 2 in this poll as they've already have wins over Clemson and Xavier.

We also beat Costal Carolina( won their league last year and are projected to win it again); Wofford( Won their league last year and almost beat Wisconsin in the first round on the NCAA tournament and are projected to win their league again); and NC state who's picked 4th in the ACC all on a neutral court.

Name a team in the DMV that has better wins than that.

Posted by: HoyaSinceBirth | November 23, 2010 3:07 PM | Report abuse

come on hoya since birth. Md has MUCH better victories. ODU is a terrible team - beating them on their home court means nothing. (sarcasm)

Md should be 4. ODU / Va Tech as the 2/3 in some order.

Posted by: pjp5 | November 23, 2010 6:24 PM | Report abuse


C'mon....ODU beat a young Clemson team under a first year head coach and a Xavier team who lost all of its star player from last year

Georgetown beat Coastal Carolina out of the BIG SOUTH!! and Wofford! I dont even know where Wofford is!! And NC State has a very young team that hasn't been good in years!

Posted by: psock1 | November 24, 2010 10:24 AM | Report abuse

psock1 -

Georgetown has the 2nd highest strength of schedule among teams in the top 10 on this list, according to Kenpom. Old Dominion of first, so they've both played the toughest teams for this region. Also, VMI has the 6th worse SoS in all of D1, which might explain their record...

Posted by: ksf4 | November 24, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

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