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Posted at 5:04 PM ET, 12/19/2010

Jurgensen: McNabb didn't practice 100 percent

By Dan Steinberg


Enough words were uttered over about Donovan McNabb's benching since Friday to keep even a professional transcriber like myself busy for the next three or four years. But I'll pick the most interesting words I heard for now, and focus on them.

These words came from Sonny Jurgensen, and were delivered on ESPN 980's pre-game coverage. They came when Sonny was asked about the benching.

"He wasn't performing, and at practice, he'd never practice hard, and I think that had some bearing on it also," Jurgensen said. "Because Shanahan's a stickler for practice, working hard in practice so that you carry that over into the game. And he never could get him to go 100 percent in practice, and that's what he wanted. You talk to people in Philadelphia, and they say why didn't you see this coming, why are you surprised. Because the Eagles had seen it, and they traded him within the division. And so why are the people in Washington surprised?"

This didn't exactly come across as a hit campaign. Jurgensen had high praise for how McNabb handled the benching, and said he understood why McNabb would be angry. But still. "never could get him to go 100 percent in practice" is not a strong endorsement.

By Dan Steinberg  | December 19, 2010; 5:04 PM ET
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Comments

Especially interesting since Jurgensen was a "gamer" himself.

Bottom line: benching McNabb wasn't the crime. It's doing it on a Friday and letting McNabb find out second hand. That's no way to conduct business.

Posted by: Tank2 | December 19, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Tank2, I come to these blog comments for histrionics, nonsensical babble and poor grammar. You're well reasoned, fact based comment above has no place here.

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | December 19, 2010 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Tank2, I come to these blog comments for histrionics, nonsensical babble and poor grammar. Your well reasoned, fact based comment above has no place here.

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | December 19, 2010 5:31 PM | Report abuse

finally a sane opinion, #5 not the answer good move by shanny , if donovan was white this wouldnt be a big deal sorry to say

Posted by: jm22d56 | December 19, 2010 5:47 PM | Report abuse

Lost all respect for Sonny when he became Danny Snyder's boy!!!

He must need the money. Both he and Huff should have quit when they put Larry Michael in the booth.
Not like Sonny ever gave a 100% in practice. He did later in bars though/

Posted by: lotusxidriver | December 19, 2010 6:17 PM | Report abuse

You found out Friday, Mcnabb knew Wednesday, not second hand.

Tank2 Said:

Bottom line: benching McNabb wasn't the crime. It's doing it on a Friday and letting McNabb find out second hand. That's no way to conduct business

Posted by: Hondo5 | December 19, 2010 6:43 PM | Report abuse

Shannahan told Mcnabb personally on Wednesday. Everyone just found out about it on Friday. Sorry man these are the facts.


Tank2 Said:

Bottom line: benching McNabb wasn't the crime. It's doing it on a Friday and letting McNabb find out second hand. That's no way to conduct business.

Posted by: culprit59 | December 19, 2010 6:55 PM | Report abuse

NOTHING about benching McNabb was a "crime." Dude sucks. The most protected figure in American sports strongly deserved to be shown that he is awful. Chance McNabb The Drive Killer has TWO touchdowns in that game?? ZERO.

Posted by: JohnnyBlades | December 19, 2010 7:02 PM | Report abuse

If mcnabb didnt practice hard why didnt shanahan come out and say that. Seems like anybody shanny wants to get rid of he starts putting out anonymous tips to the media that that player doesnt practice hard just like he did to haynesworth. First he said mcnabb didnt know the 2 minute offense then he switched it to he was out of shape because of hamstring then it's because he wants to take alook at what rex could do now it's because donovan doesnt work hard in practice.

Posted by: oj2003 | December 19, 2010 7:09 PM | Report abuse

more protection of mcnabb. funny. have you seen how fat the dude gets? he thinks he can just work out the guns, like he's some kind of he-man, then he goes out and underthrows people by ten yards with his sorry-ass base muscles. we all have *strong* reason to suspect his cardiovascular endurance. stop for a second and ask yourself why the guy has as many millions as he does. great claim to fame, throwing bad balls after protection breaks down on a 10-second long dropback. disclaimer, again: grossman is not good.

Posted by: JohnnyBlades | December 19, 2010 7:18 PM | Report abuse

more protection of mcnabb. funny. have you seen how fat the dude gets? he thinks he can just work out the guns, like he's some kind of he-man, then he goes out and underthrows people by ten yards with his sorry-ass base muscles. we all have *strong* reason to suspect his cardiovascular endurance. stop for a second and ask yourself why the guy has as many millions as he does. great claim to fame, throwing bad balls after protection breaks down on a 10-second long dropback. disclaimer, again: grossman is not good.

Posted by: JohnnyBlades | December 19, 2010 7:21 PM | Report abuse

It was a big deal because McNabb was one of the most successful Qbs of the past decade Jmm22d56z. People didn't just declare him good, he earned it. So it has nothing to do with race

Now, if you wanna argue he's declining and no longer good, start there

Posted by: smooth700 | December 19, 2010 7:27 PM | Report abuse

it does not have *nothing* to do with race. closest rush limbaugh ever came to being right in an argument

Posted by: JohnnyBlades | December 19, 2010 7:48 PM | Report abuse

Funny how the Redskin haters want to write their own script.

I like winning. Real simple, things have to change. That Grossman guy did OK.

Posted by: GoingGoingGone | December 19, 2010 8:51 PM | Report abuse

@GoingGoingGone -- if you like winning, then how did Rexy do OK? He lost. Is it good b/c it was close? Unless my math skills have gone south, then last week was closer... And against a team with an actual winning record. Still, an L is an L, doesn't matter how you get there.

Posted by: SSFSCoWA | December 19, 2010 9:25 PM | Report abuse

It's sad to see Sonny 'spouting the party line'. I guess if you spend too much time with Larry the shill, it rubs off on you. Again, shouldn't the Skins have watched film of McNabb, before giving away two high draft choices? We would have been better off to keep Campbell AND the two draft choices. Our record might have been worse, but we'd have gotten a higher draft choice and had those two choices.

Posted by: kinsman_bob | December 19, 2010 9:33 PM | Report abuse

If a loss is a loss, then how can one argue for keeping McNabb in the line up? I agree it was the manner in which the benching was handled that sucks. Apart from the disrespect factor (which isn't that big a deal. Not like McNabb ever won a superbowl), I assume it's gotta be a shock for the team to find out there's a new QB just 2 days to the game. Why announce the switch earlier in the week? And common courtesy demands that they tell McNabb before announcing it. This is exactly how the Vinny-led Redskins would have handled it.Which means that even with a new coach and GM, the Redskins are still a bush league organization.

Posted by: tundey | December 19, 2010 9:34 PM | Report abuse

@GoingGoingGone -- if you like winning, then how did Rexy do OK? He lost. Is it good b/c it was close? Unless my math skills have gone south, then last week was closer... And against a team with an actual winning record. Still, an L is an L, doesn't matter how you get there.

Posted by: SSFSCoWA | December 19, 2010 9:36 PM | Report abuse

From the guy who never lost the beer guy and never won a playoff game.

Posted by: dkeedick | December 19, 2010 10:44 PM | Report abuse

"United Forensic College" is allowing me to expand my career choices and earn a higher income in my chosen field of Criminal Justice

Posted by: jaspermax | December 19, 2010 10:57 PM | Report abuse

I think I need help with the logic that some people are using here in order to derive a conclusion.

"Fact 1: Donovan McNabb struggled against the New York Giants (ranked 2nd in defense), the Minnesota Vikings (ranked 6th in defense), and the Philadelphia Eagles (ranked 13th in defense). He's a bum."

"Fact 2: Rex Grossman looked great - except for those two picks and the fumble - against the Dallas Cowboys (ranked 25th in defense). He's freakin' awesome and no one should ever again question the wisdom of the Shanahan Family."

"Q.E.D."


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Uh, sorry, guys. I don't think that today's game was something to base a conclusion on. I'm glad Rex Grossman had a much better game than anyone expected. But, proof that the Shanahan Insanity was vindicated in some way. Not so much.

If you disagree, I have proof that the Redskins offense as a whole is now prolific. My proof: did you see those four touchdowns today?

Posted by: CommonSenseDude | December 19, 2010 11:20 PM | Report abuse

Why didn't we see it? Because we have Dan Snyder as an owner.

Posted by: Bean1 | December 20, 2010 8:53 AM | Report abuse

I thought the race baiting would end when Wilbon left. It's sad when uneducated people figure out how to register for a website, and then post comments.

Posted by: GFisher1 | December 20, 2010 9:09 AM | Report abuse

Anyone who thought that Rex didn't run the offense better than McNabb is high. The 'Human Turnover' is not the answer but he is better than McNabb. Rex was sacked 5 times and turned the ball over 3 times as well as having some crucial passes dropped and he still did a much better job than #5. There is a reason the Iggles let McNabb go within the division and every Philly fan told us what we were getting but I guess Li'l Dan's marketing dept was better because no one believed them. I hope they do now. Goodbye Donovan, and sorry you only got one year of cashing Li'l Dans big checks unlike so many other over-the-hill veterans who came here and didn't produce.

Posted by: splitbill | December 20, 2010 9:22 AM | Report abuse

Snyder would have never hired S. if he didn't have the same makeup of Snyder. How come we never hear from the GM?

Posted by: boyn4884 | December 20, 2010 9:49 AM | Report abuse

Grossman is not the answer, he is at best, a solid backup in this offense, but not the starter you are going to win a championship with. That said however, the fact that he made executing this offense look effortless, even in the face of having to throw the ball on 3 out of 4 downs with no semblane of a running game, says more about McNabb's inability than it does about Grossman's ability. Grossman hadnt started a game in FOREVER, and had never started one with this team. McNabb on the other hand started and played every game this year after taking the starter reps all through training camp and preseason and he STILL couldnt become even adequate at running this offense. Bottom line is that Grossman's decent play underscored how poor McNabb had played if for no other reason that a 4TD, 2Int, 1fumble loss looked damn impressive when stacked up against McNabb's weekly contributions this year. He was a huge mistake, only difference between this mistake and Albert is that we figured it out in 14 weeks as opposed to two years.

Posted by: opticlguy | December 20, 2010 9:56 AM | Report abuse

Grossman is not the answer, he is at best, a solid backup in this offense, but not the starter you are going to win a championship with. That said however, the fact that he made executing this offense look effortless, even in the face of having to throw the ball on 3 out of 4 downs with no semblane of a running game, says more about McNabb's inability than it does about Grossman's ability. Grossman hadnt started a game in FOREVER, and had never started one with this team. McNabb on the other hand started and played every game this year after taking the starter reps all through training camp and preseason and he STILL couldnt become even adequate at running this offense. Bottom line is that Grossman's decent play underscored how poor McNabb had played if for no other reason that a 4TD, 2Int, 1fumble loss looked damn impressive when stacked up against McNabb's weekly contributions this year. He was a huge mistake, only difference between this mistake and Albert is that we figured it out in 14 weeks as opposed to two years.

Posted by: opticlguy | December 20, 2010 9:57 AM | Report abuse

"I thought the race baiting would end when Wilbon left. It's sad when uneducated people figure out how to register for a website, and then post comments."

GFisher1, which comment were you referring to? Didn't see many comments about race (which is good, because race shouldn't be the issue here).

Posted by: CommonSenseDude | December 20, 2010 9:58 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: GFisher1 | December 20, 2010 9:09 AM | Report abuse

Anyone who thought that Rex didn't run the offense better than McNabb is high. The 'Human Turnover' is not the answer but he is better than McNabb. Rex was sacked 5 times and turned the ball over 3 times as well as having some crucial passes dropped and he still did a much better job than #5. There is a reason the Iggles let McNabb go within the division and every Philly fan told us what we were getting but I guess Li'l Dan's marketing dept was better because no one believed them. I hope they do now. Goodbye Donovan, and sorry you only got one year of cashing Li'l Dans big checks unlike so many other over-the-hill veterans who came here and didn't produce.

you hit the nail right on the head well said end of story.

Posted by: damifino101 | December 20, 2010 10:00 AM | Report abuse

Lets face the facts people McNabb did it to himself. 1st of all he has been hurt all yr. 2nd Andy Reed new somethin we didnt that is why he was willing to give him up. Dont make Shanahan the bad guy he did what he needed to do. McNabb knew he was going to get benched. Everything people talked about in Philly McNabb did here....He proved all the critics right.

Posted by: tareil | December 20, 2010 10:15 AM | Report abuse

Many McNabbophiles are upset because he was "dissed". I feel for them. I remember as a child hating Joe Thiesmann because he replaced Sonny. But everybody gets old and everyone reaches a point where they are ineffective on the field. Some sooner than others. Donavan has all the attributes you look for in a QB except one - He is horribly inaccurate/inconsistent on routing short and mid range throws. Right now he reminds me of Mark Rypien. Great long ball guy but can't throw a screen pass. That limits your offensive effectiveness - ESPECIALLY in a west coast offense where 90% of the plays are 10 yards or less. Donovan is a perfect fit for the Vikings and he will be much happier there after the trade is completed. It will be win-win for everyone.

Posted by: mordrud | December 20, 2010 10:18 AM | Report abuse

"Lets face the facts people McNabb did it to himself. 1st of all he has been hurt all yr. 2nd Andy Reed new somethin we didnt that is why he was willing to give him up. Dont make Shanahan the bad guy he did what he needed to do. McNabb knew he was going to get benched. Everything people talked about in Philly McNabb did here....He proved all the critics right."

Maybe McNabb isn't the right quarterback for the 'Skins. Total possibility (of course, that's what we said about a lot of other players, at every position, who've gone on to greater days after leaving our dysfunctional organization).

But my criticisms of Shanahan, and specifically my criticism of his post-Elway coaching record, is fair regardless of McNabb. I think Shanahan could have handled this whole thing better - whoever would have thought that the amount of sideline drama around this place would INCREASE once Snyder got out of the way, hired a GM and hired an experienced coach?

The bottom line is, regardless of whatever you think about McNabb, who is history here, Shanahan has done very little in terms of being a successful coach since Elway retired. In eleven seasons since Elway left, Shanahan's teams have missed the playoffs entirely seven seasons. In three of the four seasons that they managed to make the playoffs, his teams got blown out in the wild card game by a combined score of 111-37. Amazingly, since Dan Snyder bought the Redskins, Snyder's teams has won more playoff games than Shanahan-coached teams. So, my problem at this point is more about the fact that Shanahan is totally overrated and his son is not ready for the position he holds than about anything to do with McNabb.

I was never a huge McNabb fan to begin with - I wasn't crazy about him back when he was with Philly. I thought he had some great moments this season along with some poor moments. I was also happy to see Grossman do well - I felt bad for him for taking such a public dumping and think he's handled himself with class.

But, the Dallas Cowboys are not the '85 Bears. They're currently ranked 25th in defense. And I don't think that yesterday's game alone vindicates the Shanahans or the way they've handled things. And, regardless of what you think went right or wrong with McNabb's performance, his acquisition, or tenure, that really is a separate discussion than the discussion of whether or not Shanahan is the guy to get things done in DC. An improvement over Zorn? Yes. But, almost anyone would be an improvement over Zorn. I really wish we had hired Russ Grimm. Unfortunately, he wasn't a big enough name for Mr. Danny.

Posted by: CommonSenseDude | December 20, 2010 10:31 AM | Report abuse

earlier when there was talk of benching it was said that McNabb couldn't practice full speed because of his hamstrings.

It just goes to show that team blew it with evaluation to trade for McNabb. losing those 2 draft picks hurt when a team is as old as Skins. I keep thinking they need to acquire as many picks as possible for the next couple of drafts. Also need to use higher picks on players who can be around for 6 or more years (not running backs).

Posted by: Pensfans | December 20, 2010 10:36 AM | Report abuse

This Grossman dude did ok. He may not be the long term answer but he did ok. McNabb who?

Posted by: thorhero | December 20, 2010 11:13 AM | Report abuse

Most here are comparing McNabb and Grossman. First off, there is no comparison. McNabb is a better QB handsdown. The problem with the Redskins is much much deeper than the two QBs. It facinates me how most here ignore the tremendous ego of the head coach. He has made a mockery of several quality players on this team starting with Haynesworth. I believe the head coach caused this team no less than 2 games this year, with his ego leading the way.
I am not "race baiting" here, however there has been horrible play from several White players on this team and you don't hear negative comments from the coaching staff concerning them, ie. Rabach, Doughty, to name two. These two alone have caused this team to lose a couple of games. Yet, all we have heard since before the season started was the name Haynesworth and McNabb, (two proven quality players).
The coach needs to get off of his high horse and become the quality coach everyone expected. When does the coach get a little humble? We are getting nowhere with this dictatorship.

Posted by: Hlynchmaster | December 20, 2010 1:42 PM | Report abuse

As Terry Bradshaw loves to say about Jurgensen-he hasn't won a thing. It's odd how a losing QB such as Jurgenson word's carry so much weight.

Posted by: ArmchairGM | December 20, 2010 1:58 PM | Report abuse

The Redskins and Shanahan owe McNabb nothing. What he did in Philly has no bearing whatsoever on what happens here in DC. One (of many many) problem with the Skins is they are loaded with guys that think they are better than they really are, and they look at other guys as if THEY'RE the problem. McNabb has not earned anything this year in DC - other than respect for how he has handled these situations - but his play on the field has not earned him any special treatment. I am thankful for Shanahan. Finally someone has the stones to judge a player by performance and desire rather than his name and his paycheck. Actually, if McNabb was any other QB other than McNabb, he would have been benched long ago.

Posted by: AsstGM | December 20, 2010 2:02 PM | Report abuse

You know why people shuld be made is that we traded away a 2nd and 4th round draft pick for this guy??? I dont care if he got benched but he is now a 13 game and done waste of rebuilding time. We lost a 2nd and a 4th for this??? That is straight stupidity and it falls on our new regime! Their first big move was a disaster. What do we have that can get those picks back ?? now we have to over spend in the FA market, like we always do!!!!! It's more of the same... we took too many steps back this year.

Posted by: rvanags | December 20, 2010 2:40 PM | Report abuse

What happens to McNabb's contract extension?

Posted by: joebanks | December 20, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

It wouldn't hurt if Sonny practiced before getting into a radio booth.

Posted by: loux24 | December 20, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

I think Sonny is a hall-of-famer?

Posted by: nativedc | December 20, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

As a life long Bear fan, here's all you need to know about Rex (or as many Bear fans prefer, Wrecks) Grossman - he will make a critical mistake at the worst possible time.

Posted by: VAbaseballfan | December 20, 2010 3:33 PM | Report abuse

I'll say this, DM wasn't playing that well, yes he put the ball in the dirt in front of his receivers, yes he had some picks, but what qb dosen't look at RG first pick, behind the receiver at his feet. Yes RG had 305 yards passing against the cowboys, the cowboys not the giants, not the eagles the cowboys who by the way are in last place. As for practicing hard, remember dude had hamstring problems, and some more stuff, hard to go 100% when you are hurt, and whoes to say that DM wouldn't had the same type day if he had played. RG had three turnovers yesterday, he'll probablly have three on Sunday, followed by three or more against the giants. You can't judge whether it was the right more to bench McNabb until after the next two games. If the Redskins go 0-3 then it was not the right move, I don't care if sexy Rexy averages 300 yards a game. Only wins count, not stats. The Redskins had a chance to win even after the slow start and a pick, ended that chance.

Posted by: aviator3 | December 20, 2010 3:35 PM | Report abuse

LOL @ the fans that think Grossman is a better fit than McNabb. McNabb should have started for the following reasons:

1. You have a better chance to win with McNabb than Rex or Beck. For all the issue with McNabb, do note they loss to the Texans, Colts, Vikes, and Bucs by a total of ten points.

2. The upside with Rex is limited. I like Rex and think he's one of the better #2 Qbs in football. But I don't think you can go into next year with Rex as your starter unless you are in total rebuilding mode.

3. Even if you want to get rid of McNabb next year, have him end on some sort of high note to make him more attractive to potential suitors in the off season.

Posted by: DCResident1 | December 20, 2010 4:04 PM | Report abuse

I was in Philly for McNabb's entire career, and never once was anything ever reported about him not practicing hard, not trying, even from people who couldn't stand him. As soon as he gets to DC, all of a sudden he's this lazy dumb goofball who doesn't know anything, doesn't try hard, and just goes up there and "wings it" on offense. I'm not an Eagles fan by any means, but compared to the way the Shanahans and the rest of the organization spend their time smearing players instead of taking responsibility for a poor season, the Eagles organization is nothing but class. No one is running to the mouthpieces on the Post (paging Sally Jenkins and Jason Reid), or ESPN (Mort, Adam, got something for you) on the Eagles. I've watched the Skins this year because of McNabb, and I've never seen such a poorly run, unprofessional organization. Snyder and the Shannys are made for each other; no accomplishments, and it's always someone else's fault. And don't forget to slam people by leaking lies to the media, most important! No one should feel sorry for McNabb; he'll leave for greener pastures, do well for the rest of his career, and everyone here will say, "Why couldn't he do that here?" And these morons gave him 3.5 million because they've handled everything so poorly. What a joke!

Posted by: mjc12 | December 20, 2010 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Oh, and anyone who thought that Grossman did well is crazy. When the Cowboys tried, he was terrible in the first half. When the Cowboys stopped trying because they were overconfident, he was able to make some plays. And when the game was on the line, the Cowboys made an effort, and the result? Turnover! Have fun with Rex, everyone!

Posted by: mjc12 | December 20, 2010 4:58 PM | Report abuse

So, smart guy, you stick with McNabb whose offense produced 6 points in the first Dallas game and under 17 in many of the others?

Give me a break.

McNabb is done.

I don't know why some of you can't put the crack pipe down and see reality.

The guy's 34 years old and can't run. Injuries have robbed him of his mobility.

Bottom line he wasn't getting the job done.

Time to move on.

Posted by: RoyHobbs4 | December 20, 2010 5:15 PM | Report abuse

So, smart guy, you stick with McNabb whose offense produced 6 points in the first Dallas game and under 17 in many of the others?

Give me a break.

McNabb is done.

I don't know why some of you can't put the crack pipe down and see reality.

The guy's 34 years old and can't run. Injuries have robbed him of his mobility.

Bottom line he wasn't getting the job done.

Time to move on.

Posted by: RoyHobbs4 | December 20, 2010 5:20 PM | Report abuse

You want to know why Sonny was probably the most loved sports figure of the last 60 years? When the game was on the line and there was two minutes left on the clock, you still felt like you had an excellent chance to win. He was prepared for those situations and was the one you wanted running the two minute drill. If the coaches did not have confidence in McNabb's ability to run the offense, they should bench him.

Posted by: 1bmffwb | December 20, 2010 5:42 PM | Report abuse

As Terry Bradshaw loves to say about Jurgensen-he hasn't won a thing. It's odd how a losing QB such as Jurgenson word's carry so much weight.

Posted by: ArmchairGM | December 20, 2010 1:58 PM | Report abuse

You are one ignorant dude. Sonny was great and played for a sorry team. By the time the team got good, he got old and suffered and achilles tendon tear which back in those days was career ending. There is not a QB today that could throw the ball as good as Sonny. He wasn't protected by the refs, the CB's could assault the WR's, He played with one helmet face bar, and had to face Dick Butkus, Sam Huff, Mike "Mad Dog" Curtis, and all the greats that were not pampered and protected. I met Sonny on occassions and he was a leader and everyone was bigger when they were around him. He could throw the ball behind his back in a bullet spiral for 50 yards on a dime. You are a big mouth who was probably not born when he was setting records on Sundays. As for Bradshaw, he was surrounded by steroid loaded players before most people even knew what steroids were. Players say he was so dumb you could spot him the c & t and he couldnt spell cat. I like him, but that was his reputation.

Posted by: 1bmffwb | December 20, 2010 5:56 PM | Report abuse

As Terry Bradshaw loves to say about Jurgensen-he hasn't won a thing. It's odd how a losing QB such as Jurgenson word's carry so much weight.

Posted by: ArmchairGM | December 20, 2010 1:58 PM | Report abuse

You are one ignorant dude. Sonny was great and played for a sorry team. By the time the team got good, he got old and suffered and achilles tendon tear which back in those days was career ending. There is not a QB today that could throw the ball as good as Sonny. He wasn't protected by the refs, the CB's could assault the WR's, He played with one helmet face bar, and had to face Dick Butkus, Sam Huff, Mike "Mad Dog" Curtis, and all the greats that were not pampered and protected. I met Sonny on occassions and he was a leader and everyone was bigger when they were around him. He could throw the ball behind his back in a bullet spiral for 50 yards on a dime. You are a big mouth who was probably not born when he was setting records on Sundays. As for Bradshaw, he was surrounded by steroid loaded players before most people even knew what steroids were. Players say he was so dumb you could spot him the c & t and he couldnt spell cat. I like him, but that was his reputation.

Posted by: 1bmffwb | December 20, 2010 5:58 PM | Report abuse

As Terry Bradshaw loves to say about Jurgensen-he hasn't won a thing. It's odd how a losing QB such as Jurgenson word's carry so much weight.

Posted by: ArmchairGM | December 20, 2010 1:58 PM | Report abuse

You are one ignorant dude. Sonny was great and played for a sorry team. By the time the team got good, he got old and suffered and achilles tendon tear which back in those days was career ending. There is not a QB today that could throw the ball as good as Sonny. He wasn't protected by the refs, the CB's could assault the WR's, He played with one helmet face bar, and had to face Dick Butkus, Sam Huff, Mike "Mad Dog" Curtis, and all the greats that were not pampered and protected. I met Sonny on occassions and he was a leader and everyone was bigger when they were around him. He could throw the ball behind his back in a bullet spiral for 50 yards on a dime. You are a big mouth who was probably not born when he was setting records on Sundays. As for Bradshaw, he was surrounded by steroid loaded players before most people even knew what steroids were. Players say he was so dumb you could spot him the c & t and he couldnt spell cat. I like him, but that was his reputation.

Posted by: 1bmffwb | December 20, 2010 6:01 PM | Report abuse

I do not think benching McNabb was a good idea. I think in the end Shanahan will regret it, but I hope that I am wrong and that Shanahan is proved right. I am a Redskins fan since I was 5 years old when Sonny was the QB, and I would like nothing better than to be proved wrong.

I understand Shanahan wants 110% effort in practices, and he seems to not like the franchise player mentality -- maybe McNabb had some of that. The Redskins do need a task-master and that part of Shanahan's personality is good.

But, part of the problem is that Shanahan and especially is offensive and defensive coordinators are NOT FLEXIBLE in their planning. They all know one scheme and that's it. They don't face facts -- skins don't have a lot of draft picks, and won't get many new players. They have to adjust their schemes to what they have and not try to force players to their schemes. McNabb's problem was more that he is who is he is -- he cannot seem to adjust to Kile S's scheme that well. That is not a discipline problem -- that is a coaching problem. Kile is too young to know how to adjust yet. So what do we do next year? -- stick with Grossman or trade more draft picks for another QB?

And Shanahan's assessment of Grossman was inaccurate. Yeah, he scored 30 points but gave over 3 BIG turnovers. That mediocre at best. He was like that Chicago!!! Listen to John Riggins more accurate assessment of Grossman.

I wish McNabb was Sonny -- Sonny buckled down when Lombardi showed up! But, McNabb is who he is. You can't change that really.

I actually think both are to blame a bit -- McNabb and Shanahan -- but I put more of the blame on Shanahan. I think he will have mediocre teams for the next 3 or 4 years. But, he will at least restore discipline in the ranks.
Then, he will get fired and somebody else will come in -- I hope somebody who has a better balance between discipline and flexibility.

Again, I hope for the sake of the Redskins, I AM PROVED WRONG.

Go Sonny! Go skins.

Posted by: stamatakosnick | December 21, 2010 2:12 PM | Report abuse

That's what I always liked about Sonny. he's honest.. he calls them as he sees them. Getting McNabb wasn't a smart move and he wasn't a good fit here. And while everyone else seems to be worried about McNabb's feelings, like they were about Jason Campbell feelings.. Sonny comes out and tells it like it is. Sonny was my favorite player as a kid and to me he will always be Mr Redskin. I just bought his #9 jersey on line.. i look forward to wearing it with pride...

Posted by: sovine08 | December 23, 2010 11:23 AM | Report abuse

As Terry Bradshaw loves to say about Jurgensen-he hasn't won a thing. It's odd how a losing QB such as Jurgenson word's carry so much weight.
Posted by: ArmchairGM
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Sonny won a spot in the HALL OF FAME!!! How about that for winning something!! Besides Sonny is saying nothing Shanahan isn't thinking and Mike has won TWO Super Bowls!! BTW what has McNabb won???

Posted by: sovine08 | December 23, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse

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