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Posted at 1:46 PM ET, 12/17/2010

Wilbon hopes Redskins cut McNabb

By Dan Steinberg


Michael Wilbon won't be writing his opinions on Donovan McNabb's benching for The Washington Post, so I'll just have to take them from this video he did with NBC Washington.

"Stay here for what?" he said, when asked about McNabb's future. "I mean, I hope they cut him. I hope they cut him, so he can go somewhere else where there's an atmosphere that's not Days of Our Lives. Donovaon's my boy. Do I want to see him in that? No. I don't. And I was excited when he came. I thought it might be different. But it's not different."

By Dan Steinberg  | December 17, 2010; 1:46 PM ET
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To the tune of that famous old country song....

Agents...don't let your players sign up to be Redskins.....

They'll lie and they'll woo em, pay em then screw em...and make sure what's left of their career is done...

Posted by: N07H4NX | December 17, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse

To the tune of that famous old country song....

Agents...don't let your players sign up to be Redskins.....

They'll lie and they'll woo em, pay em then screw em...and make sure what's left of their career is done...

Posted by: N07H4NX | December 17, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Leave it to Wilbon to play the race card... so glad he's gone!

Posted by: Capitalist-1 | December 17, 2010 2:03 PM | Report abuse

There is nothing but disfunction and a lack of class and integrity in Ashburn anymore. Whatever the "low-road" is, you can be sure the Redskins will take it.

Posted by: 1of9000 | December 17, 2010 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Leave it to Wilbon to play the race card... so glad he's gone!

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Amen to that!

Posted by: hock1 | December 17, 2010 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Wilbon gets too start struck and is way too emotional to be good at his job. When he points out how badly his "boy" has been playing then maybe he will get my respect.

Posted by: Mike4169 | December 17, 2010 2:20 PM | Report abuse

McNabb does have way too much class for this slimy organization.

Posted by: dbunkr | December 17, 2010 2:21 PM | Report abuse

"The Twelve Years Since Elway"
(A Christmas Poem to Coach Shanny, 101-85, or 54%, since John Elway retired)

In the first year since Elway
Coach Shanny gave to me
A six win ten loss smacking (1999, 6-10 record, no playoffs)
And no chance at the Lomardi Trophy

In the second year since Elway
Coach Shanny gave to me
A wild card game shallacking (2000, 11-5 record, 21-3 wild card loss)
A six win ten loss smacking (1999, 6-10 record, no playoffs)
And no chance at the Lomardi Trophy

In the third year since Elway
Coach Shanny gave to me
An eight loss eight win layoff (2001, 8-record, no playoffs)
A wild card game shallacking (2000, 11-5 record, 21-3 wild card loss)
A six win ten loss smacking (1999, 6-10 record, no playoffs)
And no chance at the Lomardi Trophy

In the fourth year since Elway
Coach Shanny gave to me
No appearance in a playoff (2002, 9-7 record, no playoffs)
An eight loss eight win layoff (2001, 8-record, no playoffs)
A wild card game shallacking (2000, 11-5 record, 21-3 wild card loss)
A six win ten loss smacking (1999, 6-10 record, no playoffs)
And no chance at the Lomardi Trophy

In the fifth year since Elway
Coach Shanny gave to me
A wild card game defeat (2003, 10-6 record, 41-10 wild card loss)
No appearance in a playoff (2002, 9-7 record, no playoffs)
An eight loss eight win layoff (2001, 8-record, no playoffs)
A wild card game shallacking (2000, 11-5 record, 21-3 wild card loss)
A six win ten loss smacking (1999, 6-10 record, no playoffs)
And no chance at the Lomardi Trophy

In the sixth year since Elway
Coach Shanny gave to me
A wild card loss repeat (2004, 10-6 record, 49-24 wild card loss)
A wild card game defeat (2003, 10-6 record, 41-10 wild card loss)
No appearance in a playoff (2002, 9-7 record, no playoffs)
An eight loss eight win layoff (2001, 8-record, no playoffs)
A wild card game shallacking (2000, 11-5 record, 21-3 wild card loss)
A six win ten loss smacking (1999, 6-10 record, no playoffs)
And no chance at the Lomardi Trophy

In the seventh year since Elway
Coach Shanny gave to me
A home championship wheezin' (2005, 13-3 record, 34-7 home loss to Denver)
A wild card loss repeat (2004, 10-6 record, 49-24 wild card loss)
A wild card game defeat (2003, 10-6 record, 41-10 wild card loss)
No appearance in a playoff (2002, 9-7 record, no playoffs)
An eight loss eight win layoff (2001, 8-record, no playoffs)
A wild card game shallacking (2000, 11-5 record, 21-3 wild card loss)
A six win ten loss smacking (1999, 6-10 record, no playoffs)
And no chance at the Lomardi Trophy

Posted by: CommonSenseDude | December 17, 2010 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Isn't the pick we're giving the Eagles this year based upon DM's performance? So is benching him just another way of making sure we give them a 4th round pick instead of a 3rd?

Posted by: dclifer97 | December 17, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse

In the eigth year since Elway
Coach Shanny gave to me
A year with no postseason (2006, 9-7 record, no playoffs)
A home championship wheezin' (2005, 13-3 record, 34-7 home loss to Denver)
A wild card loss repeat (2004, 10-6 record, 49-24 wild card loss)
A wild card game defeat (2003, 10-6 record, 41-10 wild card loss)
No appearance in a playoff (2002, 9-7 record, no playoffs)
An eight loss eight win layoff (2001, 8-record, no playoffs)
A wild card game shallacking (2000, 11-5 record, 21-3 wild card loss)
A six win ten loss smacking (1999, 6-10 record, no playoffs)
And no chance at the Lomardi Trophy

In the ninth year since Elway
Coach Shanny gave to me
A sub-500 season (2007, 7-9 record, no playoffs)
A year with no postseason (2006, 9-7 record, no playoffs)
A home championship wheezin' (2005, 13-3 record, 34-7 home AFC title game loss to Denver)
A wild card loss repeat (2004, 10-6 record, 49-24 wild card loss)
A wild card game defeat (2003, 10-6 record, 41-10 wild card loss)
No appearance in a playoff (2002, 9-7 record, no playoffs)
An eight loss eight win layoff (2001, 8-record, no playoffs)
A wild card game shallacking (2000, 11-5 record, 21-3 wild card loss)
A six win ten loss smacking (1999, 6-10 record, no playoffs)
And no chance at the Lomardi Trophy

In the tenth year since Elway
Coach Shanny gave to me
A year out of contention (2008, 8-8 record, no playoffs)
A sub-500 season (2007, 7-9 record, no playoffs)
A year with no postseason (2006, 9-7 record, no playoffs)
A home championship wheezin' (2005, 13-3 record, 34-7 home AFC title game loss to Denver)
A wild card loss repeat (2004, 10-6 record, 49-24 wild card loss)
A wild card game defeat (2003, 10-6 record, 41-10 wild card loss)
No appearance in a playoff (2002, 9-7 record, no playoffs)
An eight loss eight win layoff (2001, 8-record, no playoffs)
A wild card game shallacking (2000, 11-5 record, 21-3 wild card loss)
A six win ten loss smacking (1999, 6-10 record, no playoffs)
And no chance at the Lomardi Trophy

In the eleventh year since Elway
Coach Shanny gave to me
No NFL job to mention (2009, unemployed)
A year out of contention (2008, 8-8 record, no playoffs)
A sub-500 season (2007, 7-9 record, no playoffs)
A year with no postseason (2006, 9-7 record, no playoffs)
A home championship wheezin' (2005, 13-3 record, 34-7 home AFC title game loss to Denver)
A wild card loss repeat (2004, 10-6 record, 49-24 wild card loss)
A wild card game defeat (2003, 10-6 record, 41-10 wild card loss)
No appearance in a playoff (2002, 9-7 record, no playoffs)
An eight loss eight win layoff (2001, 8-record, no playoffs)
A wild card game shallacking (2000, 11-5 record, 21-3 wild card loss)
A six win ten loss smacking (1999, 6-10 record, no playoffs)
And no chance at the Lomardi Trophy

Posted by: CommonSenseDude | December 17, 2010 2:24 PM | Report abuse

In the twenlth year since Elway
Coach Shanny gave to me
A franchise going no place (2010, 5-8, no playoffs)
A deeply pissed off fan base (2010, 5-8, no playoffs)
No NFL job to mention (2009, unemployed)
A year out of contention (2008, 8-8 record, no playoffs)
A sub-500 season (2007, 7-9 record, no playoffs)
A year with no postseason (2006, 9-7 record, no playoffs)
A home championship wheezin' (2005, 13-3 record, 34-7 home AFC title game loss to Denver)
A wild card loss repeat (2004, 10-6 record, 49-24 wild card loss)
A wild card game defeat (2003, 10-6 record, 41-10 wild card loss)
No appearance in a playoff (2002, 9-7 record, no playoffs)
An eight loss eight win layoff (2001, 8-record, no playoffs)
A wild card game shallacking (2000, 11-5 record, 21-3 wild card loss)
A six win ten loss smacking (1999, 6-10 record, no playoffs)
And no chance at the Lomardi Trophy

Posted by: CommonSenseDude | December 17, 2010 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Dude, way to comment-bomb. No one's gonna read that ish all the way through so you could've saved yourself some time by skipping to the end.

Posted by: dclifer97 | December 17, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Wait a second, Mike Wilbon is taking the side of a black athlete he's friends with against a white person and using race a subtext???

Well wonders never cease...

Posted by: CapsNut | December 17, 2010 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Not that I'm a Wilbon fan, but where in this video does he imply that race has anything to do with this? You all are fools.

Posted by: jochpo | December 17, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Maybe I missed something. Understand, NOBODY is happier than I am that Wilbon is gone (and I sure wish even this blog would stop quoting him), but that said, where in his comments did he play a race card? I didn't see it. How can people claim he makes everything about race if you're going to MAKE everything he says about race? Where did race come into this?

Wilbon is obsessed enough about race on his own. We don't need to manufacture it for him.

Posted by: bethesdaguy | December 17, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Excuse me Wilbon, but he did tell your boy to his face he's done
It's media types like you who garnish the situation into something it isn't or ever was--
Donavon has not performed at a high enough level! End of story.

Posted by: wizard5 | December 17, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Please help me. Perhaps I am not as perceptive as most. At what point in the video did Mike Wilbon play the race card?

Posted by: prestoj | December 17, 2010 2:50 PM | Report abuse

should have said Star struck not start struck there. My bad

Posted by: Mike4169 | December 17, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Hey CommonSense...you should thank Shanny for coming here because no one else would have taken this job.

Posted by: thewayitis | December 17, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Big Mike: your "BOY" threw every third pass in the dirt and even the ones they caught were a bit off. The NFL is the one place in life where performance matters more than what you look like or who you know. It sad you don't see that but I guess that's what life looks like when the man is holding you (millionaires) down.

Posted by: bob29 | December 17, 2010 2:57 PM | Report abuse

CommonSenseDude, that was awesome. That made my day. Well that, plus the fact that James Franklin's Reign of Terror is finally over at UMD.

Posted by: Barno1 | December 17, 2010 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan is, at best, a 9 & 7 coach. why do you think he lost the Denver job with two Super-bowl rings. Plus, he's an egotiscal liar. Poor Redskin fans, you guys are stuck with him and hos mini me for several more years. Several more years of mediocracy.

Posted by: PracticalIndependent | December 17, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Nice recap, commonsensedude! And yes, I read your posts all the way through. This isn't "Short Attention Span Theater," after all...

Posted by: nyskinsdiehard | December 17, 2010 3:00 PM | Report abuse

"McNabb does have way too much class for this slimy organization."

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That may be but it's unfortunate he didn't have too much talent for this organization.

Posted by: ouvan59 | December 17, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Leave it to Wilbon to play the race card... so glad he's gone!

Are you kidding me!!! The man said nothing about race. That's all you people think about when it comes to black athletes. Grow up!

Posted by: ltfish | December 17, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

I hope McNabb likes wearing purple and gold...

Posted by: ozpunk | December 17, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Leave it to Wilbon to play the race card... so glad he's gone!

Are you kidding me!!! The man said nothing about race. That's all you people think about when it comes to black athletes. Grow up!

Posted by: ltfish | December 17, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Leave it to Wilbon to play the race card... so glad he's gone!

Are you kidding me!!! The man said nothing about race. That's all you people think about when it comes to black athletes. Grow up!

Posted by: ltfish | December 17, 2010 3:07 PM | Report abuse

so two days ago...i got the email declaring i had reached the top of the season ticket waiting list...something i had always dreamed of...i could never imagine being in a situation where i would turn them away...this is the final straw...if you suck, at least suck with some class...this organization HAS ZERO CLASS...

i am denying redskins tickets.

what a horrible investment.

Posted by: carsonspence | December 17, 2010 3:08 PM | Report abuse

Leave it to Wilbon to play the race card... so glad he's gone!

Are you kidding me!!! The man said nothing about race. That's all you people think about when it comes to black athletes. Grow up!

Posted by: ltfish | December 17, 2010 3:08 PM | Report abuse

Where exactly is the comment about race?

Posted by: sammalone1 | December 17, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

so two days ago...i got the email declaring i had reached the top of the season ticket waiting list...something i had always dreamed of...i could never imagine being in a situation where i would turn them away...this is the final straw...if you suck, at least suck with some class...this organization HAS ZERO CLASS...

i am denying redskins tickets.

what a horrible investment.

Posted by: carsonspence | December 17, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Wilbon and his cronyism will not be missed.

Posted by: shoveit | December 17, 2010 3:10 PM | Report abuse

so two days ago...i got the email declaring i had reached the top of the season ticket waiting list...something i had always dreamed of...i could never imagine being in a situation where i would turn them away...this is the final straw...if you suck, at least suck with some class...this organization HAS ZERO CLASS...

i am denying redskins tickets.

what a horrible investment.

Posted by: carsonspence | December 17, 2010 3:10 PM | Report abuse

so two days ago...i got the email declaring i had reached the top of the season ticket waiting list...something i had always dreamed of...i could never imagine being in a situation where i would turn them away...this is the final straw...if you suck, at least suck with some class...this organization HAS ZERO CLASS...

i am denying redskins tickets.

what a horrible investment.

Posted by: carsonspence | December 17, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse

so two days ago...i got the email declaring i had reached the top of the season ticket waiting list...something i had always dreamed of...i could never imagine being in a situation where i would turn them away...this is the final straw...if you suck, at least suck with some class...this organization HAS ZERO CLASS...

i am denying redskins tickets.

what a horrible investment.

Posted by: carsonspence | December 17, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

RACIST WILBON:

In 1995, Wilbon cheered NFL star Kellen Winslow when he entered the Hall of Fame with a political speech attacking Justice Clarence Thomas for opposing racial quotas and "barring the government from doing the right thing." Wrote Wilbon: "Winslow can be my Gipper any day. My hands are still raw from the applause." Wilbon even cheered the arrival of black sports stars at Louis Farrakhan’s "Million Man March," and said of this spewing preacher and racist, anti-Semitic and America-hating bilge: "So much of Farrakhan’s message was necessary and correct."

Posted by: bal503 | December 17, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Hey bal503 -- it's not that Wilbon doesn't focus on race so much of the time, it's that he wasn't focused on it THIS TIME.

Posted by: bethesdaguy | December 17, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

bethesdaguy- just stating facts concerning his thoughts and beliefs

Posted by: bal503 | December 17, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

All you people talk about McNabb and Wilborn, but let’s call it like it is. Jason Campbell wasn't good behind this line. Imagine that he's winning in Hapless Oakland. Neither was Ramsey, and Manning or Brady. So get off of McNabb. Talk about McNabb being benched in Philly, what about Shanny in Denver? Skins management is a bunch of losers

Posted by: dcbornnotaskinsfan | December 17, 2010 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Wilbon has totally lost his mind. "you don't tell the media, you tell the quarterback." Umm, I assume Shanahan told McNabb first. Wilbon's talking as if the Redskins could bench McNabb without ever having to tell the press what's going on? Please.

Posted by: Booyah5000 | December 17, 2010 3:28 PM | Report abuse

You people are so funny acting like you've got a clue about football, Wilbon included. The issue here is the Redskins stink, and they are not going anywhere near the playoffs, so the idea is NOT to try and do anything to win the remaining 3 games. The idea is to evaluate what you have on the bench, and see if they will be here next year. You've got to determine who is staying and who is going, and fill in the holes. This is not personal. You perform, you stay. You don't, you're gone. How many players have the Patriots traded away, and how many draft picks have they stockpiled?? Get a clue people.

Posted by: Ireland2 | December 17, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Dysfunctional sports team. The Eagles gave him up cuz he is done as a true winner. He can still win but beyond the point of leading a team to the playoffs.

So how come the Redskins 3 weeks agfo stroked him a new signing bonus of $3500000 ?

Posted by: PensRule | December 17, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Wilbon said and I quote "DONOVAN IS MY BOY".

Does that mean they are friends? I find it hard to believe that Donovan would hang out with a d+uche like Wilbon.

Donovan is a class guy. Just a shame this is playing out in the media but unfortunately, this McNabb era in Washington was another mistake.

Posted by: GoingGoingGone | December 17, 2010 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Dude..great work. Should send it to Shanny for Christmas. Gotta feel sorry for Tavaris Jackson. First he loses his job to one old geezer and now perhaps another.

Posted by: HeavyGEE | December 17, 2010 3:59 PM | Report abuse

I see that the idiots are alive and well! Please tell me where do they get it that Wilbon is playing the race card. Not once in that clip does he say anything about race! The ones that see race when it's not there ARE THE TRUE RACISTS!!!

Posted by: Amelgepo | December 17, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Please, give Wilbon more than enough time and his true colors will come shining through.

Posted by: CapsNut | December 17, 2010 4:10 PM | Report abuse

HONESTLY AT THIS POINT WE HAVE TO SERIOUSLY WONDER WHO WILL COME PLAY IN WASHINGTON, HIS ENTIRE CONTRACT WAS A SHAM!!!

Posted by: drnosewater | December 17, 2010 4:10 PM | Report abuse

He's black, the guy he is supporting is black, there is only one possible explanation for that. All support for black people is playing the race card, like all concern that income inequality is increasing is class warfare. Course, the people accusing him of playing the race card are white people supporting the decision of another white person, so they're also playing the race card. And if a white person supports McNabb, that's just liberal guilt, which is a particularly bad way to play the race card. Condemning McNabb is the only non-racist response.

Posted by: markfromark | December 17, 2010 4:10 PM | Report abuse

What race card? The only ones pullin' the race card appears to be, well, ummmm, the racists trying to flip the script.

Posted by: cymp65 | December 17, 2010 4:13 PM | Report abuse

It looks to me like Shanahan needs to work on his people skills. When he had trouble with Haynesworth, I thought "Okay, it's Haynesworth and he's a misfit anywhere." But Donovan McNabb isn't and never has been a misfit. He's a leader who challenges those around him to work as hard as he does. Does this somehow make him a threat to Shanahan? If so, I think he's exactly the kind of threat I'd like to have if I were a coach.
I wondered about Shanahan when he brought in his son as offensive coordinator. How does he evaluate personnel anyway?

Posted by: amstphd | December 17, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

I am sometimes very critical of Wilbon.... but he is on the money here....

Posted by: oldnova | December 17, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Leave it to Wilbon to play the race card... so glad he's gone!

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Amen to that!

Posted by: hock


The only moron playing the race card is you ya moron.

Posted by: ged0386 | December 17, 2010 4:30 PM | Report abuse

McNabb ought to be happy. What are the qualifications of Kyle Shannahan? How many pro-bowls did he play in? How many championship games did he play in? The Redskins are a joke. They want to see what Rex Grossman can give you, are you kidding. I live in the Chicago area and I can tell you Rex will give you absolutely nothing. For an accomplished coach, this man has made bizarre decision. The Redskins are deficient in a number of areas i.e., offensive line, receiver, running back, and offensive coordinator. How many QBs can overcome all these deficences? McNabb I wish you all the well, and hopefully you will end up in San Francisco with Vernon Davis, Crabtree, Frank Gore and a very solid offensive line. Hail to the Deadskins!! P.S. Redskins fans, do you think the players in the locker room will accept this for long? Your coach will be gone by the 2012 season and your 2011 seasons is already down the tubes too. Enjoy your stay in the abyss of dysfunctional NFL franchises.

Posted by: Skip4 | December 17, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Wait a second, Mike Wilbon is taking the side of a black athlete he's friends with against a white person and using race a subtext???

Well wonders never cease...

Posted by: CapsNut |


What another second, Every time Wilbon takes the side of any black person, friend or not a white poster accuses him of playing the race card. Well wonders never cease. Black people cant seem to side with another black person or they will have to defend themselves as racist. Why is it that blacks must pass a im not a racist litmus test for whites yet whites feel no need to defend why they side with people of their own race or against people of a different race. Two set of rules I guess. One for them another for all the non whites. Kind of like our history. White only, Colored only.

Posted by: ged0386 | December 17, 2010 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Mike Shanahan is using McNabb as a scapegoat. Despite a horrendous defense, terrible pass blocking, mash backfield, and less than mediocre receiving corp, McNabb is top 10 in passing. UNFORTUNATELY, I have had to watch every Skins game this season(no NFL Sunday Ticket). While enduring crap, I have also been able to see that the play calling has matched the mediocre talent. The problem is Mike Shanahan’s inability to admit he is wrong and most of all, his SON. His son is a bad offensive coordinator. Period. All of you bloggers and Skins fan will watch this unfold over the next few years. Mike chose his son over McNabb. Soon he will have to choose between his job or his son.

This franchise is dysfunctional. Not trading Haynesworth early and that bogus contract for McNabb proves that. McNabb will have his revenge next season when the Redskins play the Cardinals. Stay tuned…

Posted by: yeahisaidit | December 17, 2010 4:39 PM | Report abuse

CapsNut

Why are hockey fans closet rednecks looking for an argument about race? Stick with your all white guy sport. The rest of the progressive world will voice our opinions regardless of the race of the person.

Posted by: ged0386 | December 17, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

This has nothing to do with race....more to do with how pathetic the Washington Redskins Organization has become under SNYDER. SAD!

Posted by: LongTimeSkinsFan | December 17, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Hey dclifer97, I think the 'skins pick turns into a third for the Eagles in two cases:

1. Redskins win 9 games w/ McNabb taking 70% of the snaps. Not gonna happen. Skins won't win 9 games.
2. McNabb goes to the Pro Bowl. Not gonna happen.

So the pick is all but locked in as a 4th rounder going to Philly.

Posted by: jason_va | December 17, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

I've been a Redskins fan for decades, through the few good seasons and the many bad or mediocre ones. I've loved the players, and still do, but I've reached a point of disgust with the way that organization is run. They have no class whatsoever. People have tried to tell me that for years, but now I finally understand it. And it's not just about the benching of McNabb. I will not be wearing my Redskins gear until they clean up their acts.

Posted by: CAmira5 | December 17, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Where the race base comments in Wilbon's comments? Its amzing how white people will bring race when its not even part of the discussion...... Clearly, this is an example of some redneck racists losers who need excuses to justify their unfounded rants.

Posted by: Sincear2021 | December 17, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Where the race base comments in Wilbon's comments? Its amzing how white people will bring race when its not even part of the discussion...... Clearly, this is an example of some redneck racists losers who need excuses to justify their unfounded rants.

Posted by: Sincear2021 | December 17, 2010 4:56 PM | Report abuse

Let me start by saying I think this decision is entirely about Mike Shanahan’s bad decisions as the head coach of an already dysfunctional franchise. And Kyle Shanahan needs to be fired. But…
Everyone has some level prejudice within them. You’re lying to yourself if you think that the stereotypes about all cultures in sitcoms, media, films, etc. don’t impact you. Racist? No. Prejudice? Yes. On occasion people are treated differently because of their race. Now is this benching about race. Who knows? But I’ll ask this question. When was the last time Eli, Palmer, Schaub, Peyton, Cutler, Favre, Romo, Hasselbeck, Flacco, Big Ben, or Cassel were benched even for a half for poor performance? Don’t worry I'll wait…

Posted by: yeahisaidit | December 17, 2010 4:58 PM | Report abuse

What another second, Every time Wilbon takes the side of any black person, friend or not a white poster accuses him of playing the race card. Well wonders never cease. Black people cant seem to side with another black person or they will have to defend themselves as racist. Why is it that blacks must pass a im not a racist litmus test for whites yet whites feel no need to defend why they side with people of their own race or against people of a different race. Two set of rules I guess. One for them another for all the non whites. Kind of like our history. White only, Colored only.

Posted by: ged0386 |
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They can dish it but not take it.... They dont know it how it feels be discriminated against, profiled, redline, etc., so when they experience one of their own unaccepted by another race (based soley on qualifications e.g., they cry racism...... Wow, ain that something.

Posted by: Sincear2021 | December 17, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Hey, Capitalist-1, Wilbon and McNabb are from the same neighborhood in Chicago. That's all he was saying. I bet if they were both white you wouldn't have opened your trap. Shut it! Oh, yeah, I'm a white (Jewish) guy.

Posted by: bertbkatz | December 17, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Donovan McNabb is not as good of a quarterback as everyone believes that he is. I was happy to see him go down I-95 to D.C. Why do you think the Eagles would let him go? What did they know? Now it's the same story, but with a different team. Been an Eagles fan since 1965. The reason the Eagles have won all of those division and NFC titles is because the entire team has played well, not McNabb alone. His in-depth quarterbacking stats (beyond the usual-number of completions, percentage etc.) are dismal. You don't win the Super Bowl completing hundreds of passes for minimal yard gains. He stopped being special when he started staying in the pocket.

Posted by: BleedingGreen | December 17, 2010 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Donovan McNabb is not as good of a quarterback as everyone believes that he is. I was happy to see him go down I-95 to D.C. Why do you think the Eagles would let him go? What did they know? Now it's the same story, but with a different team. Been an Eagles fan since 1965. The reason the Eagles have won all of those division and NFC titles is because the entire team has played well, not McNabb alone. His in-depth quarterbacking stats (beyond the usual-number of completions, percentage etc.) are dismal. You don't win the Super Bowl completing hundreds of passes for minimal yard gains. He stopped being special when he started staying in the pocket.

Posted by: BleedingGreen | December 17, 2010 5:20 PM | Report abuse

Donovan McNabb is not as good of a quarterback as everyone believes that he is. I was happy to see him go down I-95 to D.C. Why do you think the Eagles would let him go? What did they know? Now it's the same story, but with a different team. Been an Eagles fan since 1965. The reason the Eagles have won all of those division and NFC titles is because the entire team has played well, not McNabb alone. His in-depth quarterbacking stats (beyond the usual-number of completions, percentage etc.) are dismal. You don't win the Super Bowl completing hundreds of passes for minimal yard gains. He stopped being special when he started staying in the pocket.

Posted by: BleedingGreen | December 17, 2010 5:20 PM | Report abuse

Donovan McNabb is not as good of a quarterback as everyone believes that he is. I was happy to see him go down I-95 to D.C. Why do you think the Eagles would let him go? What did they know? Now it's the same story, but with a different team. Been an Eagles fan since 1965. The reason the Eagles have won all of those division and NFC titles is because the entire team has played well, not McNabb alone. His in-depth quarterbacking stats (beyond the usual-number of completions, percentage etc.) are dismal. You don't win the Super Bowl completing hundreds of passes for minimal yard gains. He stopped being special when he started staying in the pocket.

Posted by: BleedingGreen | December 17, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Aww, Wilbon don't take it so seriously. If I'm McNabb, I'm happy to get this ish over with and prepare to go to the Cardinals or Vikings, playing for the Redskins is a punishment.

What this really shows me is that the tentacles of Dan Snyder are long-HE made the trade for McNabb happen moreso than Mike Shanahan, otherwise Shanahan wouldn't do this to his "handpicked" QB.

Or Shanahan actually made the trade, it was disastrous and he has now proven that player-personnel decisions should be taken out of his hands.

I think the former-Snyder as he's prone to do went and procured a player he THOUGHT a coach would like (ie.,Patrick Ramsey being hoisted upon Steve Spurrier to Spurrier's chagrin, Jason Campbell & Haynesworth being forced upon Jim Zorn) and used the force of his personality to accomplish his usual sabotage of a new Redskins coach.

Some of you are furious with Shanahan-I think you need to train your fustration on this with Snyder, after all we just blew two more draft picks, needlessly for this nonsense, helping to ensure the rebuilding is going to take just that much longer.
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@Amelgepo-Amen to that brother.

Some moron named howsthathopeandchange is on another board ranting about a race card being played by no one in particular except him.

Not all, but some white posters instigate racial isht in the name of not instigating racial isht.
Check out his post....

"These clowns won't stop with the race card until the whole team including the coaching staff and the players are black. Does anyone know a black kicker? Anyone?????"

Nowhere on the thread that he wrote that does anyone say anything about race/race card. He INVENTED some "clown" that doesn't exist only to play the race card.

...but it's not THEM starting the racial isht, oh no, oh no....THEY'RE INNOCENT!

Give me a break.

Posted by: ArmchairGM | December 17, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse

N07H4NX,

LMAO. Great one. It's like my father said to me once. You always love your kids, but you don't always like them. I guess I'll always be a 'Skins fan in my heart, but damn I hate Snyder and all of his flunkies, now, unfortunately, including Shanahan and Bruce Allen.

I'm not very religious, but I may have to turn to prayer as my only hope for ever seeing a decent football team in this town again. Now, where's that number for Caps tickets ....

Posted by: Charles_Day@comcast.net | December 17, 2010 5:23 PM | Report abuse

The Redskins nickname is racist!

Posted by: MrWillie | December 17, 2010 5:23 PM | Report abuse

They can dish it but not take it.... They dont know it how it feels be discriminated against, profiled, redline, etc., so when they experience one of their own unaccepted by another race (based soley on qualifications e.g., they cry racism...... Wow, ain that something.
Posted by: Sincear2021 | December 17, 2010
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is that because all black people are the same?

Posted by: eyekey416 | December 17, 2010 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Where on earth did wilbon mention race, in that clip??? Seems to me, the only ones with a race problem, are the idiots who's bringing it up. What, Wilbon can't be boys with MacNab, without it being a race thing. Please spare the rest of us with your insecurities.

Posted by: ajmconsultants | December 17, 2010 5:32 PM | Report abuse

@ged0386- Well said, well written.

You as well, Sincear2021
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Posted by: ArmchairGM | December 17, 2010 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Wilbon never brought race into his statement. He was making the point that nothing with how the team operates has changed under the new regime! I agree with him that it's more of the same!

Posted by: Beltwayboy7 | December 17, 2010 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Dumbahan is the guy that traded for McNabb- did he not know what he was getting about 13 years in the NFL?
Why give McNabb an extension if he wasn't playing well? Just more PR BS.
The truth is that Dumbahan got lucky having a Hall of Fame QB (Elway) and a 6th round pick (Terrell Davis) that became a superstar. Denver's mile high stadium wore out visiting teams and allowed the Broncos to win more than they should have. Shanahan's lifetime record on the road is sub .500.

Going to a 3-4 just because you like it, when you have a top 10 defense that uses the 4-3, is just plain dumb- the adjustments for your defensive line and linebackers can be severe (as the Skins demonstrated this year by turning the D into a sieve).

Shanahan's clock management skills over the last couple of games have amply demonstrated that most high school football coaches are better at it than he is.

These facts all sum up to a simple truth- Shanny is a grossly overrated coach and not the answer for the Skins- he needs to go ASAP. He won't though, and Skip4 is correct- 2011 is doomed, as is 2012.

Bruce Allen ought to start preparing the list of candidates now- Cowher already said he won't coach here, no legitimate free agents will come here unless they are doing it strictly for Snyder's cash (Hey Albert!). One commentator called them the Deadskins... the name fits.

Can't root for the Cowgirls or the Phleagles- so go Giants!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: lumerm | December 17, 2010 5:50 PM | Report abuse

When was the last time Eli, Palmer, Schaub, Peyton, Cutler, Favre, Romo, Hasselbeck, Flacco, Big Ben, or Cassel were benched even for a half for poor performance? Don’t worry I'll wait…


Leave Big Ben out of it, his coach is black. The same for Cutler, and Palmer. Peyton, whoever tries to bench him would be fired before the game is over, no matter what color. That said, I'm not so sure it's about race so much as it is about system QB's and questionable decision by coaching and management. Even Haynesworth spoke up for McNabb when he was benched in Detroit.

I'm glad I grew up a Steelers fan.

Posted by: Jase21 | December 17, 2010 5:58 PM | Report abuse

"McNabb's my boy"??? Now that's what I call a professional journalist. I'm so glad he's no longer writing here and spending time on ESPN jocking pro athletes with Stuie Scott

Posted by: mschmall625 | December 17, 2010 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like you two guys are the ones obsessed with race.

Posted by: Capitalist-1 | December 17, 2010 2:03


Leave it to Wilbon to play the race card... so glad he's gone!

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Amen to that!

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Posted by: loux24 | December 17, 2010 6:09 PM | Report abuse

Jeez, what a franchise. Just when it seems you can't go any lower....I dislike Wilbon, but I totally agree on this one. What a joke this team is, with absolutely no hope in sight.

Posted by: gadstian | December 17, 2010 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Race card....please! The Redskins are as dysfunctional as ever. Zorn is laughing his A$$ off!

Posted by: oakiedokie | December 17, 2010 6:11 PM | Report abuse

So... a coach benching a player is "Days Of Our Lives"?

Posted by: fan-o-matic | December 17, 2010 6:12 PM | Report abuse

Kudos to Steinbog for taking full advantage of this latest example of "the Redskins in disarray" to rack up some serious comments on this thread.

Long live the Bog!

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 17, 2010 6:33 PM | Report abuse

Redskins didn't need to dog McNabb like they did. BUT -- based on his QB rating, he was pretty bad this season. He's at 77.1 (worst since his rookie year); that's worse than Carson Palmer (gulp) and just ahead of Chad Henne. Jason Campbell's been better(84.4).

When you are in the same sentence with these players, you're not an elite or even average NFL QB. Sorry. And McNabb's been about the same QB that he was in Philly -- killing gophers with every third pass. The Redskins didn't know this? Or they ignored it anyway? Either way, they look pretty dumb. And the Eagles have proven it was McNabb, not Reid, who was to blame for those ugly late-season losses.

Posted by: gbooksdc | December 17, 2010 6:54 PM | Report abuse

And the Eagles have proven it was McNabb, not Reid, who was to blame for those ugly late-season losses.

Posted by: gbooksdc | December 17, 2010 6:54 PM

Kind of hard to say given that we're just right now in the first year of those late-season/post-season games.

Posted by: fan-o-matic | December 17, 2010 7:02 PM | Report abuse

"Where the race base comments in Wilbon's comments? Its amzing how white people will bring race when its not even part of the discussion...... Clearly, this is an example of some redneck racists losers who need excuses to justify their unfounded rants."

Finally, someone played the race card!

Posted by: KBurchfiel | December 17, 2010 7:06 PM | Report abuse

McNabb just has not produced. He's past his prime. End of story. I wish the Redskins invested in young talent who they could nurture.

Posted by: jab00 | December 17, 2010 7:29 PM | Report abuse

Is there a bigger player apologist than Wilbon?

Posted by: kolbkl | December 17, 2010 7:39 PM | Report abuse

3 Things
1.Kyle Shanahan is the problem. The reports have started to come out that he and McNabb don’t get along. Let’s not pretend like that isn’t the root of ALL of the issues. Especially given his horrible play calling.

2. Philly has the same issues as before. A bad offensive line and run defense. Neither of those things are McNabb’s fault. Vick hides the holes in the Oline because the rush slows down to contain him. This was shown during a few of the Kolb starts(hence the concussion). The defense has had leads on there side so teams haven’t been able to pound the ball all game.

3. McNabb is past his prime but is still a quality starter and doesn’t deserve this treatment. Rex Grossman is not better than McNabb so starting him is just to send a message. Shanahan’s treatment has forced the Skins into drafting a starting QB because no veteran free agent will come to DC. Mark your calendars for Redskins vs. Cardinals next season since both teams will finish last in their respective divisions.

Posted by: yeahisaidit | December 17, 2010 8:23 PM | Report abuse

Isn't Wilbon already a lame duck? As well as a lame reporter.

Posted by: pjohn2 | December 17, 2010 8:36 PM | Report abuse

And if you haven't read this, you should:

http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/articles/40063/the-cranky-redskins-fans-guide-to-dan-snyder

Posted by: szeender | December 17, 2010 8:41 PM | Report abuse

I couldn't be more pleased that Wilbon is gone, at last, finally.

I don't care if McNabb's feelings might be hurt, or if Albert is whining somewhere in exile; all I want is for Shanahan and Allen to return this team to respectability and hopefully greatness. If they can do it, great; if not, some one else will need to.

The rest is just talk radio froth. I just want to win.

Posted by: Tedskins1 | December 17, 2010 8:50 PM | Report abuse

How is it possible that some people are talking about race here? Wilbon didn't say anything about race at all.

I think I know the problem. When Wilbon says one thing, several people who are quick to accuse others of playing the race card seem to hear something else.

Here's an example:

Wilbon says: "Don't tell the media"
Racially Oversensitive Poster hears: "I want reparations."

Wilbon says: "Tell the quarterback"
Racially Oversensitive Poster hears: "I want Donovan to get reparations also."

Wilbon says: "... not going to discuss this publicly."
Racially Oversensitive Poster hears: "I'm tired of you oppressing me. Fight the power ..."

Wilbon says: "I hope they cut him ..."
Racially Oversensitive Poster hears: "Re-elect Obama!"


So, I'm going to go out on a limb here and, having heard the Wilbon comments, suggest that perhaps the problem isn't anything that Wilbon said ... it's the way that the Racially Oversensitive Poster perceives Wilbon and his words. This isn't a racial issue, folks. So, let's relax and all go back to being a multicultural group of duped and disappointed fans. We can be united in our misery rather than divided over a non-issue.

Posted by: CommonSenseDude | December 17, 2010 8:53 PM | Report abuse

Guess who the happiest member of the Redskins organization is tonight? Big old Albert Haynesworth.

This latest debacle could give Haynesworth a minute opportunity to make the argument that he wasn't 100% of the problem in Washington. "See ... Coach couldn't even get along with Donovan McNabb."

Posted by: CommonSenseDude | December 17, 2010 9:00 PM | Report abuse

I thought it couldnt get any worse going thru last year with the Z-MAN and Vinny the Veteran. The Shanahans came to town passing out false hope like it was Christmas gifts. Our draft picks gift wrapped up with Red Christmas Bows, like in the Lexus commercial. The Eagles run out with all smiles, so excited the Redskins came down the chimney.

I sat here on Sunday and watched the ball go right thru Hunter Smith hands. I could not believe the Redskins couldnt execute an extra point. I am 29 yrs and never experience the Redskins as a good team. I was too young to experience the glory years of the 80's. I went thru all of school and an adult, just to see us lose week after week and year after year. I am embarrassed to get in on on the job arguments about my team because what everyone say is true, We Stink, like Peggy Bundy told Al! For them to think Rex is the answer is completely ridiculous and hurtful for me as a Redskin fan

Posted by: ice2nite1 | December 17, 2010 9:02 PM | Report abuse

We need to get past the idea that Mike Shanahan is some kind of a great coach. The media gives the man entirely too much of a pass based on his two rings with the legend, John Elway. His record since then has not only not been great ... it's been subpar.

I compared Mike's record with a set of other coaches who coached for most or all of the time period since Elway retired. Here's what I found.

Shanahan's regular-season record since Elway's retirement in 1999 through his last season in Denver in 2008 and this season in Washington: 96-77. That's 55.49%.

Bill Cowher's coaching record during the period between 1999 and 2007: 78-49-1. That's 60.94%.

Andy Reid's coaching record during the period between 1999 and 2008 and so far during 2010 - the exact same time period being calculated for Shanahan: 106-66-1. That's 61.27%.

Jeff Fisher's coaching record during the same time period: 101-72. 58.38%.

Tony Dungy's coaching record with Tampa and Indianapolis between 1999 and 2008: 115-45. That's a darn good 71.88%.

Shanahan has done worse in the post-Elway era than many of his contemporaries who have coached for long periods during the same time period. So, could somebody who gets a chance to talk to the coach please remind him that his record isn't as good as his ego might imply.

Posted by: CommonSenseDude | December 17, 2010 9:31 PM | Report abuse

If Donovan weren't "your boy" would you still be so loyal? Why is he being your boy relevant anyway? If Grossman were your boy, would you feel differently? Go back to ESPN and take your unobjective biased opinions with you.

Posted by: cl82507 | December 17, 2010 10:32 PM | Report abuse

CommonSenseDude has got WAAAAYYY too much time on his hands.

Posted by: joemdavis55 | December 17, 2010 10:36 PM | Report abuse

McNabb is a class act who still has some good years of play. He is not having a great year, but who among the Skins is? Not many.

I hope nest year McNabb gets to play for a coach who coaches and a line that protects their QB. Shanahan is a creep. Everything he does makes him look like a jerk.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | December 17, 2010 11:01 PM | Report abuse

what they need to do is cut the owner.

Posted by: rkerg1 | December 17, 2010 11:04 PM | Report abuse

Boycott the games next year. Fire Shanahan.

Posted by: mofares | December 17, 2010 11:12 PM | Report abuse

Man, Washington fans are embarassing me about as much as Dan Snyder. Nobody expected much from this team this year, it's taking a monumental effort to turn it into something. Shanahan's fine for now, and anyone who wants to dump him already is just a typical fickle fan. Give you Cowher, and you'll want his head if he doesn't win the first game.

Posted by: kls1 | December 17, 2010 11:15 PM | Report abuse

Wilbon's not playing his usual race card? Pu-Lease! Has he EVER sided with management when the issue is a star black athlete? This is the same writer who thinks Haynesworth is correct to shun practice, avoid workouts, take the bonus money, lie to his coach, and let down his team. This is the same Wilbon who quickly comes to McNabb's defense even though his play is sub-standard if not horrible. This is the same Wilbon who said that Shannahan is now working in DC "a black town that Shannahan doesn't understand.". There is a background here and a lot of context.... Just once Id like to see him say that management is right. Still waiting

Posted by: Capitalist-1 | December 17, 2010 11:16 PM | Report abuse

Folks...get a grip. So far I've seen people who have never been athletes commenting on sports. Anyone with a brain wouldn't be reacting to this story today. Now here this....THE PROBLEM WITH THE REDSKINS DWELLS WITH THE INABILITY TO DECIPHER PRIORITY AND DETERMINE TALENT WITH THE O AND D LINES AND NOT WITH DONOVAN MCNABB, YOU IDIOTS. We've had at least two quarterbacks (one who won a Super Bowl) shipped out of here because we didn't know what to do management-wise. And why is it that white people think that we no longer have the right to express our opinions about race when prejudice is still alive and well. We can and will express whenever we feel like it, thank you very much. The majority culture will always be the only ones who can be racists, OK. Look the word up.

Posted by: mwgaithersburg | December 17, 2010 11:33 PM | Report abuse

Now, as a white person am I, or am I not, allowed to call my black friends, "boy?" I was taught long ago it's just another word for the "N" word. Is it now socially acceptable. It's a good show and Wilbon nows tons too, but every time he says, "My boy" I cringe because it sounds like they are his property, as opposed to his "sons", as it were. I rarely watch it these days just for that single fact. Maybe I'm just old fashioned. You know, hey Boy, hey N, what's the dif.

Posted by: marvinthemartain | December 17, 2010 11:45 PM | Report abuse

Now, as a white person am I, or am I not, allowed to call my black friends, "boy?" I was taught long ago it's just another word for the "N" word. Is it now socially acceptable. It's a good show and Wilbon nows tons too, but every time he says, "My boy" I cringe because it sounds like they are his property, as opposed to his "sons", as it were. I rarely watch it these days just for that single fact. Maybe I'm just old fashioned. You know, hey Boy, hey N, what's the dif.

Posted by: marvinthemartain | December 17, 2010 11:46 PM | Report abuse

Now, as a white person am I, or am I not, allowed to call my black friends, "boy?" I was taught long ago it's just another word for the "N" word. Is it now socially acceptable. It's a good show and Wilbon nows tons too, but every time he says, "My boy" I cringe because it sounds like they are his property, as opposed to his "sons", as it were. I rarely watch it these days just for that single fact. Maybe I'm just old fashioned. You know, hey Boy, hey N, what's the dif.

Posted by: marvinthemartain | December 17, 2010 11:46 PM | Report abuse

Now, as a white person am I, or am I not, allowed to call my black friends, "boy?" I was taught long ago it's just another word for the "N" word. Is it now socially acceptable. It's a good show and Wilbon nows tons too, but every time he says, "My boy" I cringe because it sounds like they are his property, as opposed to his "sons", as it were. I rarely watch it these days just for that single fact. Maybe I'm just old fashioned. You know, hey Boy, hey N, what's the dif.

Posted by: marvinthemartain | December 17, 2010 11:47 PM | Report abuse

Leave it to Wilbon to play the race card... so glad he's gone!

Posted by: Capitalist-1 | December 17, 2010 2:03 PM | Report abuse
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he didnt play the race card. you did.

Posted by: 20yrskinfan | December 17, 2010 11:49 PM | Report abuse

Just hit that "Submit" button one time please, fans.

Posted by: kls1 | December 17, 2010 11:51 PM | Report abuse

Just hit that "Submit" button one time please, fans.

Posted by: kls1 | December 17, 2010 11:52 PM | Report abuse

Now, as a white person am I, or am I not, allowed to call my black friends, "boy?" I was taught long ago it's just another word for the "N" word. Is it now socially acceptable. It's a good show and Wilbon nows tons too, but every time he says, "My boy" I cringe because it sounds like they are his property, as opposed to his "sons", as it were. I rarely watch it these days just for that single fact. Maybe I'm just old fashioned. You know, hey Boy, hey N, what's the dif.

Posted by: marvinthemartain | December 17, 2010 11:52 PM | Report abuse

Now, as a white person am I, or am I not, allowed to call my black friends, "boy?" I was taught long ago it's just another word for the "N" word. Is it now socially acceptable. It's a good show and Wilbon nows tons too, but every time he says, "My boy" I cringe because it sounds like they are his property, as opposed to his "sons", as it were. I rarely watch it these days just for that single fact. Maybe I'm just old fashioned. You know, hey Boy, hey N, what's the dif.

Posted by: marvinthemartain | December 17, 2010 11:52 PM | Report abuse

Race card...very ignorant comment! None the less, the Redskins have never sunk so low to this and how they continue to manipulate and corrupt everything of value to them. I realize that Dan Snyder from a business sense is all about the dollars, not winning but just the money! I refuse to be one of those fools to spend my hard earned money and go back to a Redskins game again! This is finally it, I am glad that McNabb will go some where else just as Albert Haynesworth and then next year, I bet you 3 things will surely happen.

1. McNabb will be a Pro-bowler (AGAIN!) with another team (then we realize that the Coach and his son was really the problem) -and-

2. Haynesworth will play back to his Pro-bowl form again (The Redskins like some fools will go back to the 4-3, since they really aren't built for the 3-4 defense)

3. With that said, another whole season lost...but wait Dan the man made his millions again off all you sucka's...lol!

Posted by: flashjr2000 | December 18, 2010 12:09 AM | Report abuse

Of course Wilbon is an entrenched race-hustler who plays the race card like it's his job. It's been well documented and anyone who objective knows this. However, I have to agree that he didn't mention race in this instance. There's a first time for everything folks. Those who heard it this time when he actually didn't go there can be forgiven. Force of habit.

Posted by: Barno1 | December 18, 2010 1:08 AM | Report abuse

Communication challenges (continued):
Wilbon Writes: "I've enjoyed writing at the Post for the past 30 years"
Racially Oversensitive Poster Responds: "That's it! Stop race baiting! I'm tired of you accusing me."

Wilbon Writes: "... I'll miss my friends and readers here ..."
Racially Oversensitive Poster Responds: "Now you're bringing up partisan politics???? I'm tired of your crap, Wilbon!!!"

Wilbon Writes: ".. and I look forward to seeing you on PTI ..."
Racially Oversensitive Poster: "... What's that? Reverend Wright?? You racist scum, Wilbon, you."


Again, folks, we spend too much time being divided here. Redskins nation isn't made up of black fans and white fans. It's made up of sad fans and mad fans. Let's get past the talk about racial issues (which don't seem to exist here) and talk about the thing that brings all of us together in Washington - misery and continued disappointment in our underachieving, soap opera-like football organization.

Posted by: CommonSenseDude | December 18, 2010 5:13 AM | Report abuse

""McNabb's my boy"??? Now that's what I call a professional journalist. "
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God I'm so tired of morons like this. They invade the politics comments to.

On the OPINION page no less.

Go back to 3rd grade and learn to read a newspaper or get a basic understanding, dummy.

Wilbon is a columnist. He's paid to give his opinion. He is not a reporter or beat guy. Even better, he gives full disclosure that McNabb is his boy.
That's being a professional writer.

Posted by: kreator6996 | December 18, 2010 5:47 AM | Report abuse

Of course Wilbon is an entrenched race-hustler who plays the race card like it's his job. It's been well documented and anyone who objective knows this. However, I have to agree that he didn't mention race in this instance. There's a first time for everything folks. Those who heard it this time when he actually didn't go there can be forgiven. Force of habit.

Posted by: Barno1
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So all the people like you know he plays the race card because they can be "objective" but these same people deserve a pass because they thought they heard something they didnt hear????

Thats not being objective.

You contradict your own argument, and is one of the dumbest things ever written.
It in fact implies YOU are racist:
When a black man thinks he hears something that may not be there, he needs to get over it. But you and your ilk deserve a pass.

Total double standard.
Its not really wise to throw stones about objectivity when the entire home you're in is made of glass, dude.

Objectively, you either have some issues with race or just an idiot.

Posted by: kreator6996 | December 18, 2010 6:02 AM | Report abuse

Wilbon is correct. What race card, he is Donovan's friend and does not like his treatment. As a journalist he is too close to the situation to be impartial.

On the other hand, Shanahan is a liar. He has never been truthful and he is overrated. He has never won anything without Elway, so how good is he really?

I am hoping that the Skins get destroyed by the Cowboys and that Grossman gets hit like 30 times, just to prove how bad this offensive line really is. Rabach is awful, Lictensteiger is not stout, Hicks is old and slow and Jamaal Brown is damaged goods. What have they done to rectify that situation?

McNabb has saved this line from about 20 sacks this year, Grossman will be a sitting duck, as Ratliffe rag dolls Rabach again and again Sunday.

Posted by: byggstroke | December 18, 2010 8:45 AM | Report abuse

Wilbon is correct. What race card, he is Donovan's friend and does not like his treatment. As a journalist he is too close to the situation to be impartial.

On the other hand, Shanahan is a liar. He has never been truthful and he is overrated. He has never won anything without Elway, so how good is he really?

I am hoping that the Skins get destroyed by the Cowboys and that Grossman gets hit like 30 times, just to prove how bad this offensive line really is. Rabach is awful, Lictensteiger is not stout, Hicks is old and slow and Jamaal Brown is damaged goods. What have they done to rectify that situation?

McNabb has saved this line from about 20 sacks this year, Grossman will be a sitting duck, as Ratliffe rag dolls Rabach again and again Sunday.

Posted by: byggstroke | December 18, 2010 8:46 AM | Report abuse

I thought Wilbon was gone, why do you have to bring him back? His racially tinged views made me nauseous whenever I read them and yet you have to bring him back so that he can spew his chip-on-his-shoulder views while he goes off and spends his vast amounts of money flying around the country and world in his glorious job. If it wasn't for affirmative action he would never have gotten his job - which is fine - however 30 years of racial spewing is enough for me.

Posted by: steven7753 | December 18, 2010 8:46 AM | Report abuse

If I mention the fact that I am also black, does that mean that I just played the race card?

I'm not that familiar with all of Wilbon's commentary and so I'm not sure exactly what he did to make several people here sort of hell-bent on condemning him as a race-baiter. What exactly does it mean, in the opinion of those of you who suggest this, to race bait? Can race-baiting work in both directions?

I'd kind of like to get past all of the race talk so that we can unite together in the cause of talking about how our beloved franchise stinks to to the high heavens and how to fix it. But I'm getting uncomfortable as I hear what sounds to me to be tones of racial resentment from people who are complaining about others being racist or race-baiters. So, to put this all behind us, what exactly does a person do in order to be considered a "race-baiter?"

And by disclosing my own ethnicity, did I commit such an act?

Posted by: CommonSenseDude | December 18, 2010 8:56 AM | Report abuse

wow, that Wilbon clip was really short...did I miss something...he didn't mention race; I heard him mention respect...can he say respect in terms of a 'white qb or any player' he has in the past but no one called it the race card! folks are too something out there

Posted by: aypub | December 18, 2010 9:13 AM | Report abuse

wow, that Wilbon clip was really short...did I miss something...he didn't mention race; I heard him mention respect...can he say respect in terms of a 'white qb or any player' he has in the past but no one called it the race card! folks are too something out there

Posted by: aypub | December 18, 2010 9:14 AM | Report abuse


I think another factor is being overlooked.

Andy Reid.

Andy Reid had been a huge defender of McNabb from when he drafted McNabb until last year when he benched him for half a game.

The Reid/McNabb relationship was evident when Reid traded him to another team in the Eagles division.

However, I think Reid and Joe Banner knew McNabb had peaked and that his performance was on a downhill slide.

McNabb's performance this year and in recent past years has been inconsistent.

I know because I'm an Eagles fan and have seen the ups and downs of McNabb's performances since he came to the Eagles.

But even with the trade last year, I wasn't thrilled with Kolb at the helm. I was right.

Fortunately they had Vick as backup, who has finally realized that you have to focus on all aspects of football instead of just showing up on Sundays. Vick has matured as a player and it shows on the field.

Maybe the Redskins will take another expendable player - Kolb.

Posted by: janet8 | December 18, 2010 9:36 AM | Report abuse

Now, as a white person am I, or am I not, allowed to call my black friends, "boy?" I was taught long ago it's just another word for the "N" word. Is it now socially acceptable. It's a good show and Wilbon nows tons too, but every time he says, "My boy" I cringe because it sounds like they are his property, as opposed to his "sons", as it were. I rarely watch it these days just for that single fact. Maybe I'm just old fashioned. You know, hey Boy, hey N, what's the dif.

Posted by: marvinthemartain | December 17, 2010 11:45 PM | Report abuse

Ah - some oversensitive soul needs an instruction guide. Glad to accomodate!

"Boy", to my way of thinking, is almost worse than the dreaded "N Word", because it serves as an insult as well as a specific proclamation of someone's social status.

So, let's see what that means. Down here, in the deepest south, a white man might refer to an older black man as "boy" when he wanted him to do something for him. "Boy, get over here and clean this mess up". If you're a middle aged black man, and your boss is a younger white man, it's pretty much a really demeaning insult.

That being said, the term "that's my boy" or "he's my boy" has taken on a completely different context over the last decade or so. It's essentially a way of saying "that's my friend" or "I've got his back"

Got that, boy?

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | December 18, 2010 9:41 AM | Report abuse

when are you folks gonna realize that it takes a minute for your post to appear on the page ...stop re-posting already...damn!

Posted by: sir_blip | December 18, 2010 9:44 AM | Report abuse

Oh, and by the way: Happy Holidays!

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | December 18, 2010 9:49 AM | Report abuse

McNabb has always been over-rated!

Posted by: hyperiontc | December 18, 2010 9:50 AM | Report abuse

Hey Capitalist-1... Where in that clip did you see Wilbon playing the race card? All I saw was him defending a player he fond of, race had nothing to do w/ it. Don't stir up a fire needlessly!

The Redskins are a recurring disaster. The franchise has been rudderless since Jack Kent Cooke died.

For the record, I disagree w/ Wilbon. I've got no problem w/ Shanahan's call under the circumstances (no hope of playoffs) to see how Grossman performs under live fire. Besides, this year McNabb hasn't even been average. IMHO, the right strategy would've been to keep Jason Campbell & let him compete w/ Grossman (who knows K Shanahan's offense). That way, the Skins save 2 draft picks that could used to address real need (O-Line & D-Line). The end result (5-8 record @ this point) would likely not be much different under Campbell or Grossman.

Posted by: wp264 | December 18, 2010 9:57 AM | Report abuse

News to WAPO!!! Wilbon moved back to be with his homeboys in Chicago. He worked in DC for a long time and hated the place...hated the fans... hated the teams... and blamed a lot of ill on racism. His prejudiced views towards white athletes and towards white management got to the point of being disgusting and irksome. He is a shill who instead of doing his job and doing proper analysis would rather suck up to athletes so that they'd like him. How ANYONE could side with Haynesworth defies logic yet there was Wilbon front and center. It's Wilbon who constantly flips the race card and wears it on his sleeve. Don't blame me or others who are sick of the double standard and sick of the guilt trip and sick of having guys like Wilbon shove race in our faces. Good riddance Wilbon!! And yet? The WAPO can't let him go!!!!! Why does the WAPO think we care about this flaming racist!!!!!?? Just drop him and move on - JEEEEEEZZZ!!!

Posted by: Capitalist-1 | December 18, 2010 10:03 AM | Report abuse

Just more diversions from Shanahan to make the people of Washington overlook what a poor coaching job he has done all season. It's been Haynesworth for most of the season and now that that's done, he has moved on to McNabb.

Can't wait to see who his scapegoat will be next season because next season will be no better than this one. Good coaches manage the people on their team, their cater their offense/defense to the personnel they have. Bad coaches blame everyone else for their own shortcomings. Shanahan is a bad coach.

Posted by: wmwilliams14 | December 18, 2010 10:57 AM | Report abuse

Go to hell Wilbon. No one cares what you think except Steinberg.

Posted by: poguesmahone | December 18, 2010 11:22 AM | Report abuse

"Donovan's my boy," says Wilbon. Ditto Eugene Robinson and his boy Barry.

So pathetically predictable. Then again, McNabb's qb rating, awful as it is, tops Barry's presidential rating.

Merry Christmas, Eugene.

Posted by: jd5024 | December 18, 2010 12:15 PM | Report abuse

McNabb not wanted in Philly a loser of the big game.shanahan in the playoffs plenty of times Redskins,since Snyder One time.Get us there coach.

Posted by: dcg326 | December 18, 2010 4:22 PM | Report abuse

McNabb not wanted in Philly a loser of the big game.shanahan in the playoffs plenty of times Redskins,since Snyder One time.Get us there coach.We have faith.

Posted by: dcg326 | December 18, 2010 4:24 PM | Report abuse

F off Wilbon. Take your hatemongering elswehere. We already know you think Shanahan's a racist. Even though he was the one who traded for stupid McNabb to begin with. I hope another div rival takes on McNabb. I'd love to play him twice a yr.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 19, 2010 8:48 PM | Report abuse

no goal. easy call

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 19, 2010 8:50 PM | Report abuse

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