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Posted at 6:17 PM ET, 01/24/2011

Atlantic 11 Week 9: Georgetown. Your Town.

By Dan Steinberg

(By Jonathan Newton - TWP)


The most fascinating nugget from this week's Atlantic 11, being compiled live from Las Vegas, goes like this: entering Monday's action, no fewer than seven of our top teams had exactly five losses. Makes it hard to judge a poll, this parity does. But judge we must. And for the record, the best winning percentage technically belongs to Hampton, though the Pirates can't do any better than 10th in this voting.

Georgetown is still on top, as they've been since the late Paleozoic, although five other teams got first-place votes. Virginia Tech, Richmond and VCU, each having leaped over Old Dominion and Maryland. The Terps fell two spots to No. 5, while the Monarchs fell five spots to No. 7.

Nationally, Georgetown is 21st the AP poll and 20th in the coaches' poll. Virginia Tech gets eight points in the AP poll, while VCU gets two, both from the Fredericksburg Free Lance-Star's Steve DeShazo, who last week gave that 24th spot to James Madison. None of the locals got a single "also receiving votes" vote in the coaches' poll. Georgetown's RPI is still hanging around the top 10 nationally, followed by George Mason (31st), Old Dominion (33rd), VCU (52nd), Virginia Tech (61st), Richmond (62nd) and James Madison (72nd). Then come the Terps at 76th. But that's 76th and rising to you doubters.

Here are this week's results, followed by overall record, overall points, first-place votes and impeccable wit.

1. Georgetown (14-5) 351 (26)
Next: Wednesday vs. St. John's.

-- Took over Jersey last week like an MTV film crew. (Peter Keszler)

-- With uncertain weather conditions expected for St. John's match-up with the Hoyas, Red Storm Coach Steve Lavin rushed out to the grocery store to stock up on hair gel. (John Albers)

-- New definition of Hoya Paranoia: Chris Wright on Twitter. (Will Schleichert)

-- The Hoyas now have two wins in the state of New Jersey. The Wizards have zero wins outside the District of Columbia. (Gavin Weiss)

2. Virginia Tech (13-5) 306 (6)
Next: Tuesday at Georgia Tech.

-- Malcolm Delaney preparing for Tech's Tuesday night game at Georgia Tech by telling the Atlanta Journal Constitution that Alexander Memorial Coliseum "might serve the worst hot dogs ever." (Mike Steele)

-- Malcolm Delaney 1, Maryland Fans 0. (Brendan Darr)

-- Malcolm Delaney gets his feelings hurt so easily that he should skip the Georgia Tech game tomorrow and sit with Boehner at the State of the Union instead. (Markus Videnieks)

-- Malcolm Delaney needs just 42 points to eclipse the 2,000-point mark for his career, which is impressive until you realize it took him 10,000 shots to get there. (Gavin Weiss)

-- Malcolm Delaney vs. Maryland Fans is the most interesting D.C.-area feud since Nyjer vs. Marlins, Nyjer Morgan vs. Fans in Stands, Nats fans vs. Nyjer Morgan, and WaPo-blog-commenting community vs. Poopy_McPoop. (Jake Leffler)

-- Blowout wins over Maryland and Longwood further burnished the Hokies' impressive NIT resume. (Ivan Snyder)

-- Longwood goes limp in the second half and the Hokies close the game on a 16-2 run. (John Albers)

3. Richmond (15-5) 233 (2)
Next: Tuesday at Dayton.

-- Kevin Anderson scored 20 points vs. George Washington, then fired the school's football coach. (Will Schleichert)

-- Being tied for first in the A-10 is about as impressive as receiving first place votes in this poll. (Gavin Weiss)

4. VCU (15-5) 231 (2)
Next: Thursday vs. Hofstra.

-- Rams have a play much like the Picket Fence from "Hoosiers." They like to call it the (Rob) Brandenberg Gate. (Ivan Snyder)

-- Went from CBI bubble to possible Atlantic 11 Champion in one week. (Brendan Darr)

-- Winner of VCU-Hofstra might be this year's George Mason. Unless or course, George Mason becomes this year's George Mason. (Markus Videnieks)

-- When your tuition increase (32%) nearly matches your basketball team's 3 point shooting percentage (36%), you either are about to paying a lot more money for school or you have a crappy basketball team. (John Albers)

5. Maryland (12-7) 220 (1)
Next: Thursday at No. 9 Virginia.

-- According to Ken Pomeroy's ratings, the Terps have had the 14th-worst luck in the NCAA this season. Maryland students are now trying to set fire to leprechauns. (Max Wasserman)

-- I didn't think the devil would take that deal I made with him ten years ago so seriously. (Markus Videnieks)

-- Even better than Virginia Tech football at losing games to highly ranked opponents. (Jake Leffler)

-- Lost in Jordan Williams' double-double streak is another Terps milestone: most single-singles by a supporting cast. (Will Schleichert)

6. George Mason (14-5) 217 (1)
Next: Wednesday vs. Towson.

-- Former NBA big-man Dickey Simpkins was doing color commentary in the JMU win and kept referring to Luke Hancock's "deceptive athleticism," which is code for "white boy can dunk! (Markus Videnieks)

7. Old Dominion (14-5) 202
Next: Wednesday at Georgia State.

-- If at first you don't succeed, Trian, Trian again. And if that doesn't work, maybe Bazemore or Hassell. (John Albers)

-- Losing Gerald Lee has been touch on ODU's team, but crippling to us voters who can't make Uusikaupunki, Finland jokes anymore without really stretching. (Markus Videnieks)

-- Kate Hudson will be in attendance for Saturday's game with Towson to film scenes for her summer comedy "You, Me and Braxton Dupree." (Will Schleichert)

8. James Madison (15-5) 112
Next: Wednesday vs. Drexel.

-- Their five CAA wins were against the bottom five teams in the standings. This is going to go downhill faster than "now in at quarterback, Todd Collins." (Markus Videnieks)

-- The Atlantic 11 Poll: Where being tied for fourth in the CAA means you're guaranteed votes. (Gavin Weiss)

9. Virginia (11-8) 92
Next: Thursday vs. No. 5 Maryland.

-- Will likely need to beat Wake Forest this week to hold onto their status as the seventh-best team in the state. (Jake Leffler)

-- Against Georgia Tech, players over 6'6" only totaled 48 minutes, leading Cavaliers coach Tony Bennett to wonder if he left his height in San Francisco. (John Albers)

10. Hampton (15-4) 42
Next: Saturday vs. Delaware State.

-- With the fewest losses in the poll, Hampton still wondering when the MEAC shall inherit the A-11. (Ivan Snyder)

-- Tough clash at Florida A&M Monday night. Orange and green. Eeew. (Max Wasserman)

11. American (14-6) 35
Next: Wednesday at Navy.

-- I think Moldoveanu was the name of the Torah portion I read at my Bar-Mitzvah. (Max Wasserman)

-- After beating Brown earlier this month, AU is looking to go 2-0 versus colors when they take on Navy. (Markus Videnieks)

Also receiving votes: George Washington 12, Liberty 12, Navy 4, VMI 4, Longwood 3, Morgan State 3, Radford 2, UMBC 1, William & Mary 1.

By Dan Steinberg  | January 24, 2011; 6:17 PM ET
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Comments

Maryland being ranked 5th in the poll renders this a joke. MD isn't having a great season to be sure, but for the voters in this poll to act like Richmond is a better team is just silly. MD is still among the top 2 best teams in this area (the other being Georgetown). Vtech shouldn't even count since they're about as close do DC as Penn State.

Posted by: Barno1 | January 24, 2011 7:18 PM | Report abuse

Doesn't this poll being a joke render this a joke, Barn?

Or is that somehow yet another of your examples of reverse racism?

Posted by: stevie_in_gp | January 24, 2011 7:57 PM | Report abuse

I've never mentioned "reverse racism" because that's one of the most ridiculous phrases in the English language. There is no such thing as "reverse" racism. Look, I get that affirmative action debates go way over the heads of some of the people who read these blogs, but your comment make take the cake as the most simpleton I've read.

As for this poll being a joke, well it's kinda half serious too.

Posted by: Barno1 | January 24, 2011 8:24 PM | Report abuse

That's funny - you used the EXACT same tired line the last time I mocked you. Apparently I just keep outdoing myself. (And you obviously get mocked so often you can't remember specific tormentors.)

And nah, no more than 1/3 serious at most.

You are a pathetic, sniveling creature, Barno. Never forget that.

Posted by: stevie_in_gp | January 24, 2011 8:33 PM | Report abuse

pathetic and sniveling creature? Lol..that's a new one. All because I am for colorblind hiring and believe that all people of all races and ethnicities should be treated equally under the law. What a sniveling, pathetic position eh? Too bad the overwhelming majority of the American public is with me on that issue.

Posted by: Barno1 | January 24, 2011 8:58 PM | Report abuse

"That's funny - you used the EXACT same tired line the last time I mocked you."

I just wasted 30 seconds of my life googling "stevie_in_gp and reverse racism" and nothing came up with any thread I was on. So it seems that in addition to being a dimwitted simpleton who doesn't understand the affirmative action issue, stevie also apparently confuses different people on these blogs with memories of incidents that never happened...

Posted by: Barno1 | January 24, 2011 9:18 PM | Report abuse

OK stevie you had your fun, now can we get back to basketball? I agree about VaTech. It is almost in Tennessee! If you are going to include VaTech, why don't you include UWV, UT and UK, ? If not, Maryland is #2 and pick the rest anyway you want; who cares.

Posted by: Phillip258 | January 24, 2011 9:48 PM | Report abuse

Richmond number 3. Oh Please. Maryland is far better and plays MUCH tougher competition. This is somebody's idea of a joke. Put Gary Williams at Georgetown and they are undefeated. I know the Thompson name is Georgetown is just about the same as God. JT III should go coach at Princeton because the Princeton offense does not work at Georgetown. He is an average coach at best and Georgetown deserves better than average.

Posted by: alaw35 | January 25, 2011 6:11 AM | Report abuse

The rankings look pretty good to me. I had Hampton a little higher, Maryland a little lower, but the range in vote total from #3 to #7 is 233-202 whereas Georgetown and Va Tech each have more than 300. Maryland will have to win a few more games in the ACC and beat someone decent on the road (Wake and Penn State don't cut it) in order to move ahead of some pretty good CAA and A-10 teams.

Posted by: fitzfacts | January 25, 2011 8:53 AM | Report abuse

"Richmond number 3. Oh Please. Maryland is far better and plays MUCH tougher competition."

Ha - tired old 80s and 90s ACC cliches. Maryland lost to a team that already has two losses in the A10. Richmond beat a top ten calibre team in Purdue. Maryland's best win was against a Big Ten also ran. The Spiders could quite easily end the season with more quality wins than Maryland - so I guess they're schedule isn't too bad.

Also, Richmond's not tied for first in the A10, they're behind the conference flagship (Xavier) and a good Duquesne squad.

Posted by: Kev29 | January 25, 2011 9:04 AM | Report abuse

Richmond: 62 SOS 120; 1-1 vs. Top 50 3-4 vs. top 100 best win Purdue #13 RPI

Maryland RPI: 76 SOS 49; 1-6 vs. Top 50 3-7 vs. top 100. best win Penn St. #50 RPI

Georgetown RPI: 9 SOS 4; 4-5 vs. top 50 7-5 vs. top 100. best win Missouri #28 RPI

So neither team is even close to Georgetown. So does it even matter which one is ranked above the other.

Posted by: HoyaSinceBirth | January 25, 2011 11:13 AM | Report abuse

"JT III should go coach at Princeton because the Princeton offense does not work at Georgetown."

Really? Let's see, GU is averaging 76 PPG and Maryland is at 77, and GU is doing that against the #4 SOS. Delving deeper, you see that Georgetown's offensive efficiency, eFG % and overall FG% are all much better than Maryland. Yea, I guess the "Princeton offense" doesn't really work.

Now, about that Princeton defense...

Posted by: kchoya | January 25, 2011 11:15 AM | Report abuse

"Gary, Coach L. from Fairfax is on the line. He wants to schedule and says they'll come here. No? But maybe we could...no? No chance, huh? Okay, I'll let him know. Maybe next time, eh? No?!?"

Posted by: WaPoPimp | January 25, 2011 11:37 AM | Report abuse

I wouldn't want to play George mason either if I were Gary...they played us damn well earlier this decade. They almost knocked us out of the tourney in 01 before we made our first run to the final four.

Posted by: Barno1 | January 25, 2011 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Apparently, Jeff Allen only hears racial taunts when VT loses.

Posted by: fushezzi | January 25, 2011 12:38 PM | Report abuse

Wait, I don't understand. If a team plays you well (like Mason does Maryland), wouldn't you want to play them on a regular basis? In my opinion, Gary is usually not afraid of a challenge, but with thie reverse logic, Maryland will quickly turn into Georgetown.

Besides a few moral victories (against Duke and others), Maryland doesn't really have any signature wins yet (unlike Georgetown and Richmond). A terrible performance against Virginia Tech is a good enough reason to drop so far int the poll. Also, the ACC is exceptionally weak this year, so trying to argue that Maryland plays much tougher competition is not very convincing.

Posted by: nordicus | January 25, 2011 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Reverse logic? Wanting to avoid playing a team that could beat you, yet beating them does nothing for your RPI... Explain again how that's reverse logic.

Posted by: Barno1 | January 25, 2011 1:46 PM | Report abuse

This is the same reasoning that Georgetown gives for not playing Maryland or other decent non-conference opponents on a regular basis. It's foolish. Who cares about your RPI? More importantly, playing a team like Mason prepares you well to play similar "mid-major" teams in the early rounds of the tournament.

Posted by: nordicus | January 25, 2011 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Georgetown doesn't play MD because they thinking beating them wouldn't help their RPI? Dude, whatever you are smoking...i want some of that.

Sorry but that has absolutely nothing to do with why MD and Gtown don't play. It has to do with the fact that the last time we played each other in 1993 at the Cap Center, that was considered a home game for Gtown, even though there were more MD fans there (I was there, it was about roughly 2/3 MD fans). So Gary feels that the next time we play (other than tournaments) should be a home game for MD. But Gtown refuses to play at Comcast Center because they felt that the Cap Center was essentially neutral, even though it was their home court. This has all been well documented, both in this paper and in the Bmore Sun.

So as you can see, Nordicus, your comments about why Gtown doesn't play MD are absolutely ridiculous.

Posted by: Barno1 | January 25, 2011 2:19 PM | Report abuse

You're missing my analogy, Barno. It isn't about Georgetown and Maryland. It's about Maryland scheduling cupcakes (like Georgetown does) and avoiding teams like Mason that could better prepare them for the tourney (also like Georgetown).

As a side not, you're parroting all the b.s. public reasons Georgetown has given for not playing Maryland (and vice versa). The bad blood goes back way before that 93 Joe Smith game (which I also attended). The real reason goes back to John Thompson the Elder, who like his son didn't like to schedule decent competition that could possibly beat them (like Maryland) outside of the Big East season.

Posted by: nordicus | January 25, 2011 2:42 PM | Report abuse

You're missing my analogy, Barno. It isn't about Georgetown and Maryland. It's about Maryland scheduling cupcakes (like Georgetown does) and avoiding teams like Mason that could better prepare them for the tourney (also like Georgetown).

Posted by: nordicus | January 25, 2011 2:42 PM

More antiquated examples. Georgetown plays the 4th toughest schedule in the country - including very sound non-conference match-ups...

Old Dominion(a), N.C. St., Missouri(a), Utah St, Temple(a) and Memphis(a).

It's not 1984 anymore - St. Leo is off the schedule. JTIII changed all of that. They've already faced 12 RPI Top 100 teams this season (out of 19 games).

Maryland's non-conference schedule ended up being very good this year - they just didn't win any of the huge match-ups. The only thing they should do is up the caliber of opponent at Comcast Center. Play a home-home series with a tournament level team or two. Gary's philosophy of tough road/neutral/tournament games then cupcakes at home hurts their tournament resume - would be better to get a chance at a quality win at Comcast. Lose Colgate and play a good CAA team, like VCU, then return the game in Richmond - helps your RPI and recruiting.

Posted by: Kev29 | January 25, 2011 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Mason is 31 in the RPI and destroyed a good Delaware team last night. Would love to see them play Gtown or UM right now. At some point the Lunardi types will have to include them in the discussion.

Posted by: Observer691 | January 25, 2011 3:22 PM | Report abuse

@nordicus - get a clue. Since JTIII took over GU has played grueling OOC schedules year in and year out while also competing (usually) strongly in the toughest conference in the country.

Posted by: funkey | January 25, 2011 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Maryland is a joke. Mason would poo all over them.

Posted by: NateMinarik | January 25, 2011 5:26 PM | Report abuse

Maryland is a joke. Mason would poo all over them.

Posted by: NateMinarik | January 25, 2011 5:26 PM | Report abuse
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When they meet in the NIT I'll take you up on that.

Posted by: fushezzi | January 25, 2011 7:53 PM | Report abuse

Sorry MD...any team above the red-line/from a BCS conf. that plays NJIT and UNCG in one season just isn't even trying to play a realistic OOC schedule propped up with $$ wins.

I was looking to rip on GU, but to be honest they played a fair OOC schedule of home/away and respectable mid-majors...good on them.

Posted by: jcleggette | January 26, 2011 3:00 AM | Report abuse

My analogy about Georgetown was obviously a few years outdated. Their strength of schedule under JTIII is very good. I still think Maryland should aim a bit higher, though.

Posted by: nordicus | January 26, 2011 8:56 AM | Report abuse

Barno, you still theeeerrre??

So it seems that in addition to being a dimwitted simpleton who doesn't understand the affirmative action issue, stevie also apparently confuses different people on these blogs with memories of incidents that never happened...

Posted by: Barno1 | January 24, 2011 9:18 PM | Report abuse

You couldn't find it, even as recently as November 23, on this very blog? Pathetic.

I know you've been told you need to shut up your whole execrable life, but you finally need to start listening, man. You're not bright enough to keep putting yourself out there like this. It's demeaning.

Posted by: stevie_in_gp | January 26, 2011 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Don't get mad Maryland fans. Number 5 is very generous. If it were up to me I would put Mason and ODU ahead of them, making Maryland number 7

Posted by: psock1 | January 27, 2011 4:07 PM | Report abuse

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