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Posted at 8:58 AM ET, 01/20/2011

Flyers announcer calls Caps effort "pathetic"

By Dan Steinberg


This is the goal that made it 2-0 Flyers on Tuesday night. The Caps rallied, as they so often do, but it was too little too late, as it so often is, and Washington lost in overtime to the Eastern Conference's hottest team.

In my experience, the home broadcast crews tend to credit the home team for all things, good or bad. If the home team wins, it's because they're awesome. If the home team loses, it's because they played poorly and didn't take advantage of opportunities. But the Philadelphia radio team absolutely lit up the Caps after this goal on Tuesday, placing the 2-0 deficit clearly on the shoulders of the visitors.

"I'll tell you one thing, when you watch the Washington Capitals on that sequence, that was the five laziest guys you could have found to have on the ice against that line," color analyst Chris Therien said. "They were circling, there's no stopping and starting. And for Claude Giroux to go in between three guys that just didn't have their heads on a swivel -- no compete level at all -- guys in this league will make plays night after night when you have an opportunity like that. That is absolutely pathetic by the Capitals, and credit Philadelphia for taking advantage of it."

"You're right, the Caps just looked disinterested," play-by-play man Tim Saunders agreed.

"They had three guys circling, waiting for passes to go out of the zone," Therien said. "It is unbelievable."

But that wasn't enough. Before the second intermission arrived, the Flyers radio guys went after the Caps again and again, for their season thus far and specifically for their showing on Tuesday, with or without injuries.

"Washington right now is just helping the Flyers' cause," Therien said. "I mean, Philadelphia has not razzled and dazzled this hockey game, but Washington has just not shown up tonight. There's no spark, there's no buzz about them. They have nothing going on at all....I don't care who you're missing, you can't compete like this. There are far less talented teams that will give you a better fight than this....The guys that are in should know better, to come out and compete harder than this. It makes no sense at all....I don't know what to expect from Washington. As a hockey player, you're supposed to have pride. They looked like they had nothing to give those first two periods."

By Dan Steinberg  | January 20, 2011; 8:58 AM ET
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I hope half-glass-full Leonsis or say-the-same-old-thing Boudreau sees this. They blame the fans for being overly negative but maybe they will respect it more coming from someone outside of the organization. Who needs to be held accountable? NOBODY! "This [no effort] is just making us stronger for the playoffs"

Posted by: Albright4Snapper | January 20, 2011 9:17 AM | Report abuse

is this video in russian (or maybe some other dialect close to russian?) or is it just me?

Posted by: goskinsgo | January 20, 2011 9:22 AM | Report abuse

The truth hurts--especially when it's delivered by Flyers broadcasters...The leaders of the organization and some in the media keep saying, "It's only the regular season, they'll iron out their problems before April," but if this team keeps playing the way it has for the bulk of the last month and a half (not scoring or even getting scoring chances, doing a terrible job on the power play, not showing up for the first two periods), they'll be lucky to make the playoffs and certainly won't beat anyone when they get there.

Posted by: TheFingerman | January 20, 2011 9:32 AM | Report abuse

And what where these Filthydelphia announcers saying when the Flyers allowed the Caps to tie the game?

Overall, the Caps did come out flat again against one of the top teams in the league. Playing 20 out of a full 60-minute game is not going to get it done.

Posted by: Jayman77 | January 20, 2011 9:50 AM | Report abuse

That certainly isn't english. To the negative posters - did you even watch the clip before blasting the Caps and management? I honestly have no idea what the announcers were saying.

Posted by: tylerdurden1 | January 20, 2011 9:51 AM | Report abuse

Really isn't anything the players and coaching staff haven't been saying for a while now. But yeah, it stings.

Posted by: tha_prophet | January 20, 2011 9:57 AM | Report abuse

Sure, the Caps were lazy -- still not used to winning with half-efforts like they used to. But that was also a hell of a pass. Amazing the Philly announcer gave no credit for that.

Posted by: RIP-21 | January 20, 2011 10:07 AM | Report abuse

Sure, the Caps were lazy -- still not used to losing with half-efforts when they used to win easily. But that was also a hell of a pass. Amazing the Philly announcer gave no credit for that.

Posted by: RIP-21 | January 20, 2011 10:10 AM | Report abuse

I hope the entire Caps organization gets this. When your opponents no longer respect you, there is something very, very wrong. I understand we're talking about the Flyers here, and Philadelphia is a cesspool with the most hateful fans ever, but Therien isn't just another blow-hard commentator. He played 13-14 years in the NHL, albeit with the Flyers, and was respected as a solid D-man. Harsh words, but I can't disagree with him. It validates many Caps fans' thoughts on their current play...

Posted by: skinsfan11 | January 20, 2011 10:18 AM | Report abuse

Yes, the Caps are lazy. This is a newsflash?

Posted by: bryanmcoleman | January 20, 2011 10:21 AM | Report abuse

They speak the truth.

Posted by: ThisGuy | January 20, 2011 10:42 AM | Report abuse

Just more proof the team has quit on Boudreau. Can GM not see it?

Posted by: je121819 | January 20, 2011 10:48 AM | Report abuse

Funny, because I think the same of Philadelphia fans - pathetic.

Posted by: futbolclif | January 20, 2011 11:00 AM | Report abuse

The decline of the Capitals can be traced directly to the smug and presumptive mindset of the players, coaches and front office that they are all that and a bag of chips, a mindset exemplified by this year's marketing slogan "Building America's Hockey Capital". Boy that really makes me cringe. Yes, they have accomplished great things in the past few years, but they have not seriously advanced in the playoffs, let alone won the big one. They need to start focusing on building a team that plays consistently not intermittently. Perhaps BB needs to set an example by giving up bird calls, selling Mercedes and carpet cleaning and focus back on his day job. Perhaps BB has lost the locker room, and is all white noise at this point to the players. If that is the case, we have a real problem, because dumping BB means your dumping a system that has been set up top to bottom for plug and play interchangability between the Bears and Caps. The best tonic? The marquee players need to start showing some maturity and responsibility, consistent with the big bucks they are receiving. OV, Backstrom, Green, Semin - it is time to dial it up a notch and walk the walk guys. You are all better than this. OV, can you possibly figure out how to adjust your play to make yourself less predictible. Like Crosby doesnt get double and triple teamed and he still manages to score like a bandit. Get motivated to get better, guys. Make yourselfs better, don't rely on how good you think you are.

Posted by: northvajim2 | January 20, 2011 11:02 AM | Report abuse

This is coming from the same broadcast team that didn't realize the Caps changed goalies until about four minutes left in the second period.

granted, the Flyers second goal was atrocious. the Caps had four skaters in the slot and no one lifted a finger to contest it.

but Chris Therien is known for hyperbole too. his schtick is playing up to the Philly fans by talking down about whatever opponent they are playing.

bottom line: a team putting out no effort found enough in the third to steal a point from the top team in the East on their ice after being down 2-0.

where was Philly's heart not finishing off the Caps?

Posted by: bottomfeeders10 | January 20, 2011 11:05 AM | Report abuse

I've been saying it all year - the "play 3 minutes out of 60" mentality won't work

Posted by: CF11555 | January 20, 2011 11:19 AM | Report abuse

I've been saying it all year - the "play 3 minutes out of 60" mentality won't work

Posted by: CF11555 | January 20, 2011 11:19 AM | Report abuse

All the Caps care about is drinking Vodka and scoring chicks instead of goals. Face it fans OV loves the lifestyle more than winning the cup.

Posted by: shoreterp1 | January 20, 2011 11:23 AM | Report abuse

FYI, the clip is just showing the goal. The commentary, as Dan says, was from the Philadelphia RADIO broadcast team. The audio of this isn't on the video. This is also not the television broadcast team, which was the crew that didn't notice the goaltending change.

Posted by: StikSav | January 20, 2011 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Don't brush this off as Philly announcers being homers -- Theiren is no homer. He just was being brutally honest. Real hockey fans know this.

Posted by: dbunkr | January 20, 2011 11:50 AM | Report abuse

It is during times like these, when the team is facing adversity, that you realize how dangerous it is to have a team where the superstars, the players you turn to to right the ship, are all young, relatively immature individuals, both on and off the ice. OV, Backs, Semin, Green, while the leaders of this team, are all very very young, not only as hockey players, but more importantly, emotionally and mentally as men. My guess is that none of them have ever faced any adversity like this, they were all most likely the most gifted players on their teams throughout their playing lives yet were never forced to stand up and lead like they need to now. Their is a HUGE leadership/maturity void on this team, it hasnt shown in prior years when they were steamrolling through the regular season, but it showed up in the playoffs, and now it is upon us again in the regular season. Growing up can be very very painful as we are learning as this unfolds before our eyes....

Posted by: opticlguy | January 20, 2011 11:52 AM | Report abuse

It is during times like these, when the team is facing adversity, that you realize how dangerous it is to have a team where the superstars, the players you turn to to right the ship, are all young, relatively immature individuals, both on and off the ice. OV, Backs, Semin, Green, while the leaders of this team, are all very very young, not only as hockey players, but more importantly, emotionally and mentally as men. My guess is that none of them have ever faced any adversity like this, they were all most likely the most gifted players on their teams throughout their playing lives yet were never forced to stand up and lead like they need to now. Their is a HUGE leadership/maturity void on this team, it hasnt shown in prior years when they were steamrolling through the regular season, but it showed up in the playoffs, and now it is upon us again in the regular season. Growing up can be very very painful as we are learning as this unfolds before our eyes....

Posted by: opticlguy | January 20, 2011 11:54 AM | Report abuse

For those criticizing the comments from the Flyers announcers please note that on the CSN broadcast, Locker pointed out the same things. While he didn't call out the Caps players as colorfully as the Therien, he did too.

There are fundamental things wrong with the Caps and they aren't making changes to address them.

Posted by: kolbkl | January 20, 2011 12:07 PM | Report abuse

I've been going to the Caps games since Greg Joly (sorry) and I agree 100 percent with the Flyers announcers.

At some point, when does the coach start taking some of the blame for this under-performing team?

Posted by: nativedc | January 20, 2011 12:27 PM | Report abuse

The Caps took a butt whipping on ESPNs Hockey analysis that Ovechkin is not even a Top 10 player now. No big surprise to any true hockey fan. His one goal didn't even touch his stick. Funny.

While it shows how bad the Flyers were to give up the 2-0 lead when the Caps decided to play, the lazy Caps need to make some trades or demote some players to put life support back in the team.

Just keep Rockin The Dead and stay on the bandwagon. Your owner will lead you like the Pied Piper he is right to PNC Bank formerly known as Pittsburgh National Bank!

Posted by: PensRule | January 20, 2011 12:34 PM | Report abuse

As one of many long suffering Caps fans, I couldn't agree more with these comments from the Flyers radio guys. The Caps team this season is the most frustrating I've watched in the Ovechkin era. I'd rather watch the far less talented, but more hard working blue collar Caps teams of old than this overly talented group that cannot get it through their heads that it takes a lot more than talent to win a Stanley Cup.

And northvajim, I couldn't agree with you more on the "Building America's hockey capital" slogan. It'll take way more than 1 playoff series win (and Fedorov is the only reason the Caps got that win) in 13 years to make this a hockey capital.

Posted by: vsbrown13 | January 20, 2011 12:37 PM | Report abuse

The decline of the Capitals can be traced directly to the smug and presumptive mindset of the players, coaches and front office that they are all that and a bag of chips, a mindset exemplified by this year's marketing slogan "Building America's Hockey Capital". Boy that really makes me cringe.
Posted by: northvajim2
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I am starting to think it is all marketing and money. Say all the right things but you don't do the right things which is winning when it counts. I spend about $300 each night I go and leave frustrated by watching All Star players get beat by chumps.

Ovie isn't Ovie any more. He will get his share of goals but something isn't right there.

At least during football season I could take my frustration out on the Redskins, this is horrible to watch!

Posted by: GoingGoingGone | January 20, 2011 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Excuses, excuses. 'smug..young..saving it for the playoffs..lazy..half-effort..'
Listen, Caps have offensive players (pun intended) who are extremely talented who, up to now. had been playing Coach BB's system and being sucessful at it. Playoff time came around and GMGM finally...finaly figured out that they needed to play defense to win playoff games. So, instead of getting the 2 or 3 players needed to compliment their goal-scoring superstars, they decided to change 'the system' and change the playing style of their goal-scorers. Bad mistake.
This new defensive system is not Coach BB's forte. That's not how he became sucessful. That's not what won games for him. This new defensive system is not the player's forte. That's not what got them to the NHL. So...what we have now is a disinterested team, trying to learn a new system, with which nobody's comfortable with, including the coach, and everybody's hesitant.
Why is it that they appear to be more sucessful in the 3rd prd, when they're behind and need a come-back? Could it be that either the players, on their own, or the coach, 'turns them loose' and they revert to their old style of offensive hockey?
Face it, Caps Management...you built an entire organization based on speed, goal-scoring offensive minded players (and coach). Now you want to change them? It won't work.

Posted by: scmonty1 | January 20, 2011 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Its amazing how such a sluggish, lazy team is able to steal a point from the top ranked team in the East! Way to close us out Philly!

Posted by: padre123 | January 20, 2011 1:03 PM | Report abuse

And yet we almost won!

Posted by: CTCapsPhan | January 20, 2011 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Why is the announcer on the video speaking Russian?

Posted by: jmarks09 | January 20, 2011 1:07 PM | Report abuse

I had to listen to the Florida TV announcers last week and they too said the about same thing as the Philly announcers said about the Caps. Lazy, disinterested, etc.

So we can make more excuses about the team or we can agree to at least one or more of the following:

1. The Caps are pacing themselves. (Coach fault)
2. The Caps are overrated as to talent. (GM fault)
3. The Caps are overrated as to work ethic. (Player's fault)
4. The Cap's team leadership are not making a difference.(Ovie? Poti? Knuble?)

Carlson, Alzner, Erskine, maybe Steckel, are playing well against expectations.

Can you add anyone else?

Even Boudreau making a fundamental mid-season systems change? You mean after four months of analysis, we had to wait until December?

Posted by: trfnews | January 20, 2011 1:10 PM | Report abuse

And yet we almost won as stated by CTCCapsPhan. He must be a player with his "WE".

Almost won is like saying you almost won the Stanley Cup.

Quit drinking the Kool-Aid

Posted by: PensRule | January 20, 2011 1:14 PM | Report abuse

I would be much more interested in how these Philthadelphia announcers "spun" the Capitals two goals: probably something like "Knuble dislodged the net before he scored that goal" and "Ovechkin clearly gloved the puck into the net." Certainly not that the Capitals ouhustled the Flyers, and really should've won the game in regulation.
And are Caps fans so anxiety-ridden that we're giving legitimacy to these biased commentators?
I think I have my answer.

Posted by: Sportaholic | January 20, 2011 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Isn't this style of play what got Hanlon fired a few years ago?!

Posted by: Joe69 | January 20, 2011 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Joe 69. EXACTLY. One minute defensive stuff is the devil and we need to run and gun. Now running and gunning is the devil and we need to play defense.

One minute we need government run airport security bc the private contractors are too cheap. Now, we can't stand TSA.

Flip flop. Flip flop.

There is no "right strategy". Just play a full 60 minutes.

mb

Posted by: CF11555 | January 20, 2011 1:39 PM | Report abuse

I've been saying it since he blew off the Game 7 morning skate last year. Ovie sucks as a captain. Trade Semin.

Posted by: McLobo | January 20, 2011 2:13 PM | Report abuse

I wish I didn't agree with the Philly announcers but I do. FO-are you paying attention?

Posted by: hateisnotafamilyvalue | January 20, 2011 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Like it or not, the truth stings hard.

Believe me, I hate the Stormtroopers and all their ilk, but we can take that comment and apply to myriad games this year that include Florida, Ottawa, the Rags, etc. etc. etc.

The point about injuries is moot. You play hard. Simple. They don't. They haven't, aside from the Classic game, played anything like hard since about mid-November. I don't know why but it's shaping up as I imagined when they started: the Caps won't win the division and will sneak in at a #7 or #8 seed. What happens then, we'll see.

As a STH I hope the 'reserving' energy idea is true. I hope the defense is better than last year. I hope the offense can light up when needed. Lots of questions for a very talent but (right now) horribly lazy team.

I'll keep watching. I'll keep hoping.

Posted by: saintex | January 20, 2011 3:24 PM | Report abuse

I just want to know one thing, which year is the anomaly, last year or this year? Were we really that good last year or are we really this bad now. I am starting to wonder if last year was a fluke where everyone, including the role players had breakout years.

Posted by: pgkens | January 20, 2011 4:02 PM | Report abuse

I'm as frustrated as anyone at how badly the team is playing this season, I just don't see where a coaching change, or trading Mike Green, or some other drastic move is going to help the health of this club long term. This team is built to compete for cups over a decade, not before the all-star break and trade deadline in year three of the rebuilding plan.

GMGM needs to cool his heels, and not do anything rash. When the market for Semin reaches fever pitch, trade him. There have to be teams much more desperate than the Capitals that will give up a second line center and a veteran goaltender to bolster the team through the rest of the regular season and into the playoffs... but if we can't get fair value for him, then keep him.

It has been six weeks of half-@ssed play and the team is still within a point of first place in the Southeastern Division. There are injuries up and down the roster and our stars are under performing and the team is in the fifth spot, right behind the Penguins in the Eastern Conference Draw. Washington gets two wins against weak teams like the Islanders and Leafs and you're right back in the hunt.

Posted by: rodbestboy | January 20, 2011 5:16 PM | Report abuse

I watched the game on comcast philly, Jim Jackson and Keith Jones had nothing bad to say about the Caps. I would rather listen to Keith Jones than Locker any day. Locker never shuts up and hogs the mic from Joey B. You want to listen to two jerks, listen to the guys who do pens games on TV. Bob Errey and some idiot named Staggy. They cross the line with some of their comments.

Posted by: TheSmurfs | January 20, 2011 5:54 PM | Report abuse

I do enjoy Craig Laughlin and Joe Bennanatti on the TV. They are fun and they will criticize the Caps a lot of times.

But very often it is so good to get the view from the opponent's booth. They don't have to travel with the guys, they don't get paid by the team, and they have no reason to say anything except the unvarnished truth.

As I watched the Flyers game I cannot count how many times I was yelling at the screen because the Caps simply were not competing. Everyone was standing around waiting for someone else to make a play. No one was hitting anybody.

If you watch the Caps this year, take a look at how often they poke at guys with their sticks instead of knocking them off the puck. That is all they did for 62 minutes against Philly. Poke-poke-poke!

I get that the Caps organization feels like last year's run-and-gun style didn't work in the playoffs. I get that they want to be better defensively and be more physical. And, on paper, it seems like a good idea. The last three playoffs didn't end well. But when you have a team loaded with thoroughbred players up and down the roster you can't force them to play like plow-horses. It's not they are not willing. They just can't do it.

It's time for the Caps to get back to "Caps Hockey"!

Kevin Olson
Manassas, VA

Posted by: noslok | January 20, 2011 6:00 PM | Report abuse

We have appearently reversed our style/ usual MO. When we play the pens, we want to be them so bad, we play our arses off. it used to be we played against everyone else hard and when we faced the gwens, shriveled up. So the answer to our problem of obvious lackadasical play is pretend we are playing the gwens everynight. i know it's not that easy but it's worth pointing out effort wise. We simply do not play hard 3 periods unless we play them. they think they are but the proof is in the third periods when they play harder. Time BB bench a few guys and get their attention. ovie has gained weight and lacks the speed and quickness to outwork opponets to the net like he did when he was younger. he is contempt playing on the parameter and one timers. If D doesn't have to respect him going around them, they will continue to smother him. the leaugue has learned to get in his jersey as soon as he hits the blueline and he needs to adjust. not sure he can without giving up the booze and hiring a personal trainer in off season. he needs to lose 20 lbs...backstrom is looking alittle thick himself and sasha is just too soft. these guys would be having an extra morning skate or two until they actually win a first period. i think the defensive adjustments have been learned, time to cut them loose bruce!!Rock the red!

Posted by: klangley69 | January 20, 2011 6:07 PM | Report abuse

"The truth hurts--especially when it's delivered by Flyers broadcasters."

Agreed and been saying it all season: they aren't motivated. That and BB keeps "switching lines" so much it's impossible to have chemistry.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | January 20, 2011 6:07 PM | Report abuse

From those of us who suffered through an 8-67-5 season, or who died a little inside when we missed the playoffs on the last night of the season TWO YEARS IN A ROW, forgive us if we don't understand what all the griping and moaning is all about. Geez, how about a little perspective.

Posted by: StevefromSacto | January 20, 2011 6:24 PM | Report abuse

I read some comments from people that the Caps play may be some kind of rope a dope strategy meant to conserve strategy for the end of the season. I don't buy it, but if its true its time to start punching.

I tend to agree with the people that said something to the effect that:

1) The Caps and Cap management say all right things but don't do those things. They fail to deliver, and
2) There is a leadership void. It looks like they lack "heart" to me, and
3) Someone asked earlier who they would add to the list players that perform game in and game out. I would add Bradley and Hendricks and possibly Beagle. No first or second liners on there from me.

Posted by: muddapucker | January 20, 2011 6:43 PM | Report abuse

I agree with the Flyers radio dude. Why is this the subject of a Bog post? Don't get it.

Posted by: JillC | January 20, 2011 7:10 PM | Report abuse

It must be nice to have radio broadcasters who actually understand what's going on during a game and can see when the players are dogging it. The players could be doing an olympic's style figure skating routine on the ice, complete w/ triple twists and matter-of-fact Steve "The Iceman" Colby wouldn't interrupt his play-by-play to point it out.

Posted by: randysbailin | January 20, 2011 7:32 PM | Report abuse

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