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Capital Pride 2010

Last weekend saw the first Capital Pride festival where same-sex couples were free to marry within city limits. That's more than enough reason to celebrate for the potent gay and lesbian activist community, which was able to cap decades of effort with an overwhelming 11-2 vote to legalize gay marriage.

Now the question for the city's activists is: Now what? My colleague Tim Craig looked at that question Sunday through the lens of the ongoing mayoral campaign.

Here's another question: What would activists' "perfect" city government look like?

Handily, the Gay and Lesbian Activists Alliance -- the city's longest-running activist group -- just released its "Agenda 2010," laying out its priorities for lawmakers.

Number one is keeping gay marriage legal, says Rick Rosendall, the group's longtime political director -- that means keeping the courts and present and future Congresses at bay.

But the GLAA identifies several other issues that they'd like lawmakers and public executives to address. Toward the top of the list are protections for transgender residents, who are covered under the city's human rights act. But, Rosendall says, "enforcement leaves something to be desired," and they are subject to discrimination in employment, housing, heath care, and in the justice system.

Other top issues include curtailing school bullying and maintaining the police department's widely acclaimed Gay and Lesbian Liaison Unit as a standalone entity. Police chief Cathy Lanier has proposed scaling back the unit, historically based in Dupont Circle, and instead training officers in each of the city's seven police districts to handle gay-related issues -- mirroring the spread of openly gay Washingtonians into other parts of the city.

The "Agenda" also includes a number of more ambitious items.

Like this one: "Prostitution: Legalize It, Regulate It, Zone It, Tax It."

It reads, in part:

As advocates of the legalization of prostitution, we think it needs neither sanitizing nor glorifying. It is not a profession filled exclusively with people who freely chose it from a host of other options. No doubt there are some in that category, like the college student turning tricks for extra cash. But too many turn to it by necessity. These include gay teenagers who have been thrown out of the house by their parents, and transgender people whom discrimination has left with few options.

Those folks, Rosendall says, are engaging in "survival sex." And what they need, he says, is not to get arrested, but to get "wraparound services," such as job programs, substance abuse treatment, health care, and housing. And, oh yeah, get rid of the street trade, and you get rid of the accompanying trash, loitering, and noise problems.

Needless to say, no city lawmaker has yet gone to bat for the idea.

Rosendall says that, while legal prostitution may be at the bottom of the GLAA's list of priorities, that doesn't mean it doesn't deserve to be debated. "There should be someone making an intelligent, reasonable, coherent case laying out all the arguments," he says. "We're aware of the political reality, but someone needs to start the discussion."

He adds: "Most of the public officials we talk to agree with us privately."

Question is, how will they get them out of the closet?

Photo by Marvin Joseph/The Washington Post

By Mike DeBonis  |  June 14, 2010; 4:30 PM ET
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"Gay marriage?" It's called marriage.

Onward to equality and fairness,
Joe Mustich, Justice of the Peace,
Washington, Connecticut, USA.

Prostitution? Drugs? They should probably be de-criminalizes and legalized too.

Posted by: cornetmustich | June 14, 2010 7:24 PM | Report abuse

Most of the rest of the civilized world tolerates prostitution. Canada, for example. Or Europe, Asia, or South America. Australia. New Zealand.

The USA seems to be stuck in some sort of Puritanical mind warp. That's too bad.

Posted by: John991 | June 14, 2010 7:46 PM | Report abuse

What an obnoxious and snide post. These may be controversial issues, but these are also real social problems and real victims. Ridiculing and minimizing these issues is pathetic.

Posted by: aaronflynn | June 14, 2010 7:51 PM | Report abuse

Actually, after reading the actual text, legalizing prostitution makes a lot of sense. No one should have to resort to prostitution to stay alive. But sticking your head in the sand and criticizing those who do is obscene. Too bad you didn't mention all of the other great ideas on the list. Ideas that help real human beings. It's so cozy being straight and white, isn't it?

Posted by: JudeGeekGirl | June 14, 2010 9:03 PM | Report abuse

How about getting the government out of sex completely? Gays, prostitutes, polygamists, polyandrists: why is it the government's business, what we do? Or shall I say, whom we do. And BTW, if they legalize prostitution, can we (in NY) have our governor back? Spitzer was a good one. What a stupid issue to lose a good governor on!

Posted by: timsiepel | June 14, 2010 9:50 PM | Report abuse

Mike DeBonis is utterly wreckless in this article headline that suggests same gender marriage is somehow a gateway to legalized prostitution. What if this headline read "Women to Receive Same Pay? Check. Now Legalized Heroin?" or "Discrimination Against Blacks Ends? Check. Beastility Legalized?

A plausible heading might have been "GLAA Advocates for Legalized Prostitution."

The Washington Post should fire Mike DeBonis!

Posted by: ashafer_usa | June 14, 2010 11:07 PM | Report abuse

Homophobia is intolerance which brings no benefit. Same-sex marriage is a right which must be available to all LGBT people in every state of the United States. It is important for Washington, D.C. to protect same-sex marriage and it's important that Washington, D.C. pass a law to prohibit discrimination on the basis of gender identity. That city's police department should keep the Gay and Lesbian Liaison Unit. Legalizing prostitution is not a good idea because of human trafficking and the reason for it is not good because LGBT youth who've been kicked out their home deserve to advance in life.

Posted by: LibertyForAll | June 14, 2010 11:07 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps Mr. DeBonis can ask Senator David Vitter (R-Hypocrite) or Elliot Spitzer their views about legalizing prostitution.

Posted by: edallan | June 14, 2010 11:18 PM | Report abuse

Prostitution should simply be de-criminalized. Keep the government out of it. What - does the govt. also want a "cut" of dating? Because I know many a gold-digger who is benefitting from dating - although gold digging is not called prostitution and is LEGAL.

Posted by: christy42 | June 15, 2010 12:40 AM | Report abuse

homosexual marriage,prostitution,gambling,drugs,alcohol,cigerretes,illegals anything that the special interest politicians and home grown fools can use to advance their agenda. more about our incompetent potus and gang and our military in harms way with no chance of ending this disaster anytimg soon.

Posted by: pofinpa | June 15, 2010 1:29 AM | Report abuse

I don't understand. Prostitution has been legal all these years, even encouraged. It's called Marriage. We're just talking about legalizing it in the context of prices lower than a house.

Posted by: Religulosity | June 15, 2010 3:52 AM | Report abuse

Lol, another desperate attempt by anti-gays to tie in irrelevant things. Gay activists do not care about prostitution or drugs. Those are irrelevant things. All they care about is seeking equality that's guaranteed in the United States Constitution.

Here is why the slippery slope doesn't work.

Let us take the 4 common arguments: beastiality, pedophilia, incest, and polygamy. First off, all 4 of these are fetishes, and irrelevant to homosexuality, which is a sexual orientation. Let me distinguish this for you using incest as an example. If a guy into incest is straight, he'll choose his sister, and if he's gay, he'll choose his brother. See the distinguishment? Now pedophilia and beastiality will never be legal, because both are non-consenting and harmful, whereas homosexuality is 2 loving consenting adults that is not wrong or harmful. Incest, also has been shown to lead to genetic defects, so that is also out of the question. Incest also is a fetish, not a sexual orientation. I have never seen a person exclusively attracted to their brothers/sisters etc. Polygamy also is a choice. No one can choose who they would or will be attracted to, but they CAN choose to be in more than one relationship with more than one person at the same time. Polygamy can be damaging, as it can cause jealousies and resentments among the participants and any children produced. Those 4 fetishes can be seen to be harmful and wrong, whereas gay marriage is neither harmful nor wrong.

In fact, the more anti-gay an area is (Africa, Middle East) the more they tend to support and legalize polygamy. Gay marriage has been legal in MA for 6 years, and i don't see anyone pushing for polygamy. The slippery slope is a myth meant as a scare tactic that's quickly becoming obsolete.

Posted by: shadow_man | June 15, 2010 6:23 AM | Report abuse

To those of you using the Bible as a weapon against homosexuality, you are wrong. Homosexuality is not a sin. The Bible is constantly being taken out of context to support anti-gay views. Scholars who have studied the Bible in context of the times and in relation to other passages have shown those passages (Leviticus, Corinthians, Romans, etc) have nothing to do with homosexuality. These passages often cherry-picked while ignoring the rest of the Bible. The sins theses passages are referring to are idolatry, Greek temple sex worship, prostitution, pederasty with teen boys, and rape, not homosexuality or two loving consenting adults.


http://www.soulfoodministry.org/docs/English/NotASin.htm
http://www.jesus21.com/content/sex/bible_homosexuality_print.html
http://www.christchapel.com/reclaiming.html
http://www.stjohnsmcc.org/new/BibleAbuse/BiblicalReferences.php
http://www.gaychristian101.com/

Thats why Jesus never mentions it as well. There is nothing immoral, wrong, or sinful about being gay. Jesus, however, clearly states he HATES hypocrites. If you preach goodness, then promote hate and twist the words of the Bible, you are a hypocrite, and will be judged and sent to hell. Homosexuals will not go to hell, hypocrites will.

This is very similar to the religious bigots of the past, where they took Bible passages to condone slavery, keep women down, and used Bible passages to claim blacks as curses who should be enslaved by the white man. People used God to claim that blacks marrying whites was unnatural, and not of God's will.

Posted by: shadow_man | June 15, 2010 6:26 AM | Report abuse

For those of you claiming homosexuality is a "lifestyle", that is a false and ignorant statement. Homosexuality is not a choice. Just like you don't choose the color of your skin, you cannot choose whom you are sexually attracted to. If you can, sorry, but you are not heterosexual, you are bi-sexual. Virtually all major psychological and medical experts agree that sexual orientation is NOT a choice. Most gay people will tell you its not a choice. Common sense will tell you its not a choice. While science is relatively new to studying homosexuality, studies tend to indicate that its biological.

http://www-news.uchicago.edu/releases/03/differential-brain-activation.pdf
http://www.newscientist.com/channel/sex/dn14146-gay-brains-structured-like-those-of-the-opposite-sex.html
Gay, Straight Men's Brain Responses Differ
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,155990,00.html
http://www.livescience.com/health/060224_gay_genes.html
http://www.springerlink.com/content/w27453600k586276/

There is overwhelming scientific evidence that homosexuality is not a choice. Sexual orientation is generally a biological trait that is determined pre-natally, although there is no one certain thing that explains all of the cases. "Nurture" may have some effect, but for the most part it is biological.

Posted by: shadow_man | June 15, 2010 6:29 AM | Report abuse

The National Library of Medicine pubs confirm that sexual orientation is natural, biologically induced in the first trimester of pregnancy, morally neutral, immutable, neither contagious nor learned, bearing no relation to an individuals ability to form deep and lasting relationships, to parent children, to work or to contribute to society.

From the American Psychological Association: homosexuality is normal; homosexual relationships are normal.

The American Academy of Pediatrics, American Psychological Asociation and American Psychiatric Asociation have endorsed civil marriage for same-sex couples because marriage strengthens mental and physical health and longevity of couples, and provides greater legal and financial security for children, parents and seniors.

America's premier child/mental health associations endorse marriage equality.

Posted by: shadow_man | June 15, 2010 6:36 AM | Report abuse

Legalize marijuana, the rest of this will follow.

Posted by: ronjaboy | June 15, 2010 6:43 AM | Report abuse

So... you had to interview your colleague on this? What about talking to the people who want this directly. This is really lame journalism, IMO.

As for the issues: if it can be proven to the city that a prostitute is working her trade on her own, without force from a pimp, and is of legal age to make such a decision, then let her ply her trade in a legal manner, as she would be able to do in much of Europe and Canada. It is one thing to stop human trafficking, which should be stopped. It is another to stand in the way of an adult who has made the decision to be a sex worker because she had nothing else to sell.

Posted by: dwooddell1 | June 15, 2010 6:56 AM | Report abuse

Prostitution is already legal in Washington, DC. It is called Congress.

Posted by: dbakernc | June 15, 2010 7:23 AM | Report abuse

I support gay marriage, even though they've suffered enough; it's gay divorce that I think will be interesting.

Only MEN would support legalization of prostitution. Our "entertainers" are already a bunch of ridiculously slutty-looking women and dumb men who are largely unintelligible.

I think all our masters of the universe--corrupt congress, ugly lobbyists, BP's CEO and other corporate chiefs, war mongers--have done quite enough damage to the society and the planet, thanks.

We don't need to enslave women in prostitution by making it legal.

Posted by: woof3 | June 15, 2010 9:38 AM | Report abuse

Why should the government care whether I wine and dine someone in order to get him or her into bed, or just cut to the chase and pay outright for what I want?
Prostitution laws enforce morals of various religions, not the valid ends of a government.

Posted by: hugmekatie | June 15, 2010 9:51 AM | Report abuse

I am imagining Government employed, fully unionized prostitutes. They would wear Cintas supplied uniforms, consisting of Khaki pants and white oxford shirts. All underwear would be white cotton. The first twenty minutes of each session would be spend reviewing the collective bargaining agreement with the client, outlining which positions were acceptable, where the worker could or could not be touched, and where the client could or could not be touched. They would all carry government issue beige condoms. They would work fifty minute hours or twenty five minute half hours, regardless of the completion of the act. Any "Special Requests" would first be reviewed by the fair employment practices board. If all proper forms were filled out,and signed off on by the appropriate supervisors, the act could commence.

I think this might just cut down on prostitution!

Posted by: David90 | June 15, 2010 10:02 AM | Report abuse

Gay marriage, prostitution - what's next? Seems the post-moderns living in DC will support any kind of sexual abuse, slavery, exploitation or perversion. How soon before they are supporting keeping of catemites, child molestation, and human sacrifice?

Posted by: pgr88 | June 15, 2010 10:08 AM | Report abuse

Mr. Debonis, you sound angry that gays can marry in Washington but perhaps I am mistaken. It is unfortunate that your post sounds snide and one-sided. For instance you say (regarding the efforts of some to legalize prostitution) that "Needless to say, no city lawmaker has yet gone to bat for the idea." Why "needless to say"? Isn't it an idea that might be explored? Much like gay marriage was an idea that needed to be explored...and won out in the end? If I'm not mistaken prostitution is legal in some parts of Nevada, for example.

You also make reference to the "potent gay and lesbian activist community" in addition to using the word activist other times. Potent normally means "toxic" in everday speech. You might consider using "powerful" instead which would be more indicative of the group's influence.

Moreover, I am offended by your line about keeping future Congresses "at bay" when it comes to securing gay marriage. Doesn't that imply that gay marriage is wrong and therefore in danger of attack? Why? That's clearly not the case for straight marriage.

Posted by: Saveus2 | June 15, 2010 11:07 AM | Report abuse

Couldn't agree more that homosexuality is not a "choice." It is in fact, just like a birth defect; a cleft palate, or a heart with a hole in it; an aberration from the norm. Just as society makes room for those with visible birth defects, we now make accomodations to those who cannot continue the species.

I favor those who want "government out of sex" altogether. I want to marry my horse, and I'm irritated that I can't.

Posted by: Curmudgeon10 | June 15, 2010 11:57 AM | Report abuse

Some of the gay proposals are just plain degrading and stupid however the one concerning prostitution makes a lot of common sense.What is known as the worlds oldest profession?Prostitution of course.Now the question is why?Because sex is a biological process that can not be contained by nanny laws and so-called righteous politicians.Look at history.If a woman wishes to have multiply sex partners and wants to charge for her sexual services and if a man is willing to pay for the opportunity to have sex with a beautiful woman whats the problem?It's going to happen no matter how many laws you have on the books.What "ADULTS" do in private,as long as no one gets hurt and both are willing,is none of the governments nor anyone else's business.

Posted by: fcs25 | June 15, 2010 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Two words: tax it. If we tax legalized prostition, people will actually enjoy paying off the deficit for once.

Posted by: Sitka1 | June 15, 2010 12:21 PM | Report abuse

Marriage: a religious union between members of the opposite sex. As opposed to a civil union, a union between members of any sex recognized by a secular government.

Posted by: mhoust | June 15, 2010 12:35 PM | Report abuse

of course they want to legaize prostitution...
it's a way some rich gay guy can do a 17 year old and older and make it legal...
that way as life gets difficult, kids will give it up for cash...
disgusting...
isn't it...
franks will love this bill...

Posted by: DwightCollins | June 15, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Wow. I never that about that angle. Legal homosexual marriage leads to legalized prostitution.

Does America have no morals at all?

Posted by: JoStalin | June 15, 2010 1:53 PM | Report abuse

NOT TRUE: "And, oh yeah, get rid of the street trade, and you get rid of the accompanying trash, loitering, and noise problems." Just look to Amsterdam in the Netherlands for the real-world implementation of this policy and its VERY NEGATIVE results which caused the Amsterdam city government to change its policy to again disallow prostitution in the city. And, though the activists won't tell you so, polygamy and legalized adult-child sexual relations are also on their list. If you think not, look at the progression of their demands thus far.

Posted by: DoTheRightThing | June 15, 2010 2:05 PM | Report abuse

I am sorry Shadow Man, but the sexual "sins" the Biblical passages condemn are not "idolatry, Greek temple sex worship, prostitution, pederasty with teen boys, and rape." What they condemn is anal sex within those contexts.

To the extent that they do condemn idolatry and temple sex and prostitution, that is not a homosexual issue. Pederasty with teen boys was not problematic as long as the boys were not abused by being anally penetrated. And rape again is not a homosexual issue, unless you are referring to the use of the term "hubris" which again was used to indicate anal penetration of free boys or men.

As for relations between two loving consenting adults, that was not a problem as long as they did not have anal or oral sex with each other.

So it is not an "orientation" and not love that are being condemned, since all men liked boys in those days. It is the physical abuse of one male by another that is forbidden in the Bible. Nor should that surprise us, when we consider the ravages that this kind of behavior have caused in our day.

Posted by: NewYorkgaydude | June 15, 2010 2:54 PM | Report abuse

The logic and reasoning that supports gay marriage supports polygamy. Either consenting adults are free to choose their relationships, or society through government sets more or less arbitrary limits on those relationships. If freedom is for all, polygamy may not be banned. If there may be limits, gay marriage may be banned.

Posted by: _BSH | June 15, 2010 4:44 PM | Report abuse

This entire article is homophobic, starting with the title. It is inflammatory, and this type of "reporting" belongs on Fox News.

Posted by: CAC2 | June 15, 2010 4:45 PM | Report abuse

CAC2 doesn't like it simply because it shows some of the cultural and legal weakness of the homosexual movement and some of the implications of homosexual marriage.

Posted by: JoStalin | June 15, 2010 5:31 PM | Report abuse

Pelosi probably misses the "Streets of San Francisco"!!!

rdog1

Posted by: RDog1 | June 15, 2010 5:38 PM | Report abuse

The war on prostitution needs to stop. Look at California where you will get arrested and jailed for having sex for money in private (prostitution) but if you are in the porn business you can boink for bucks all day long with no worries about getting arrested. Does that sound like 'equal protection'?
Not to me.

Posted by: cduwel | June 15, 2010 5:53 PM | Report abuse

What would you rather have? Frustrated, agressive pepople or satisfied, happy people.

Being serviced sexually is a physiological need, for males and females both.

Denial of the fact is psychotic. Legalize the sex industry and make it safer and clean for those who want and need it.

Posted by: veerle1 | June 15, 2010 5:55 PM | Report abuse

If it has taken so long for homosexuals to find acceptance in society is because we have tried to be all inclusive and all permissive- the only thing we don’t want to allow is disagreement coming from outside of our ranks (not even from within our own).

We are not one voice. I’m not transgendered or transvestite or a prostitute or whatever other label we want to add to the ever-growing acronym “GLBT… “. Why am I being forced to being part of groups not my own? The women’s rights movement and the civil rights movement were fought entirely separate, and including both under the same banner would have delayed women’s suffrage past 1920. Nevertheless, after having won the right to vote, women were significant players on the path to blacks and equality- something impossible for them to attain without the right to vote.

I’m going to be brutally honest, oftentimes I find myself embarrassed for being part of the GLBT community. Someone asked me the other day if I was a self-hating gay man. Really? I hate myself because I don’t like to see men talking to each other as if they were women? “Girl this and girl that”. Pop your gum and flare your hands up in the air as if you were a helicopter going down. Give me a break!

Our goal should helping young men and women to make sound decisions with their lives. Let’s teach people to respect themselves in such a way that they will think farther into their future while living the present. Emboldening behavior doesn’t make anyone better if that behavior is the result of bad decisions and self-destruction. GLAA should be ashamed that instead of working to develop programs that bring better opportunities to people it perpetuates the position that they never wanted to be part of in the first place.

I’m not a saint- believe me, I’ve had my share of poor decisions; but I haven’t dwelled on them as if they were to define the rest of my life.

Posted by: Steve4Change | June 15, 2010 6:40 PM | Report abuse

"Rosendall says that, while legal prostitution may be at the bottom of the GLAA's list of priorities, that doesn't mean it doesn't deserve to be debated. 'There should be someone making an intelligent, reasonable, coherent case laying out all the arguments,' he says. 'We're aware of the political reality, but someone needs to start the discussion.'"

You need to check out The Five Laws of Liberty at www.fivelawsofliberty.com. There are intelligent people who are making reasonable arguments against the atrocities that accompany prostitution. When humans are seen as nothing more than objects to be possessed, they not only lose value but are treated like property. Rosendall needs to study American History. Here I thought we already learned our lesson and rightly abolished an entire institution dedicated to the proposition that some men have the power to assess the value of others. Legalize prostitution - How barbaric!

Posted by: ScottHyland1 | June 15, 2010 7:48 PM | Report abuse

A survey of prostitutes receiving social services in Cincinnati shows the average age at which women become prostitutes is 13 years. Minors cannot consent, they are trafficked. The violence and degradation suffered by prostitutes can be horrible. Who would want their sister, wife or mother in this 'profession'? It takes something pretty horrible to bring hard core feminists and evangelicals together on one issue, and this is just such a horror.

Posted by: daglaw | June 15, 2010 8:59 PM | Report abuse

To link the full rights of citizenship of American taxpaying, hard working, law-abiding citzens who are gay to prostitution may be headline gathering, but it is abusive and disgusting. How dare you.

Posted by: mradams | June 15, 2010 9:25 PM | Report abuse

Don't like, mradams? Then don't read it.

Posted by: JoStalin | June 15, 2010 10:16 PM | Report abuse

Really there's no case to be made for legal protections for people who are trapped in patterns of disordered sexual behavior and using one another. Absolutely more should be done to help those trapped in prostitution or preyed on by trafficking, their problems often complicated by other kinds of disorder and desperate situations, but removing the legal penalties is not a help with that. The legal penalties can be a stimulus to change their behavior and avail themselves of help, which helps THEM.

For a long time I could not make any sense of why people were against same sex unions. I thought that was sheer bigotry. I couldn't see the harm, except from people who were against it and caused gay people a lot of misery. I've grown up a lot in my understanding of the nature of people and sexuality and love, and the tremendous human value of chastity. I also have come to understand marriage of man and woman and their becoming parents together as something much more profound, and same-sex relationships as in no way equivalent or of similar value, even while superficially they share some elements; homosexuality always remains like fornication and is basically stunting. Prostitution also (at one time I would have defended that too) is basically using one another. It is a sad situation that severely harms people.

Posted by: elizdelphi | June 15, 2010 10:27 PM | Report abuse

Lol, i count at least 10 fail trolls so far. Nobody these days know how to do it properly anymore, so they try to incite anger, and fail miserably. Most of them come from 4chan (the place of unskilled trolling). They also attempt it in a topic where it actually works against them :D

For those of you that don't know what a troll is, they basically are posters that take a side on any sensitive topic (religion, sexuality, etc) and post to rile up and anger other posters for their own satisfaction and fun. They usually dance around a central idea while ignoring all evidence (since their primary motive is to incite anger, not prove anything). Other troll behavior includes twisting your words out of context, name-calling, lying, or doing anything that may get a rise out of you.

The best way to own a troll is to get under their skin or ignore them. When a troll realizes he can't incite anger in people and or get a rise out of them, it irks him. They keep trying, but its fun watching them in desperation as they throw everything at you trying to get any kind of rise. They lose even more, because for each troll, it gives the pro gay marriage side the chance to spread facts and information about homosexuality, to get rid of ignorance. It's a win/win situation for us.

Remember, trolls can't win unless they incite anger. Merely getting responses is not a successful troll, since anyone can do that. What makes trolling unique is the ability to incite anger, and without doing that, they become useless. So to all posters here, do prove them wrong with facts, but do not let them incite anger.

Posted by: shadow_man | June 16, 2010 7:03 AM | Report abuse

Gonna repost these

To those of you using the Bible as a weapon against homosexuality, you are wrong. Homosexuality is not a sin. The Bible is constantly being taken out of context to support anti-gay views. Scholars who have studied the Bible in context of the times and in relation to other passages have shown those passages (Leviticus, Corinthians, Romans, etc) have nothing to do with homosexuality. These passages often cherry-picked while ignoring the rest of the Bible. The sins theses passages are referring to are idolatry, Greek temple sex worship, prostitution, pederasty with teen boys, and rape, not homosexuality or two loving consenting adults.


http://www.soulfoodministry.org/docs/English/NotASin.htm
http://www.jesus21.com/content/sex/bible_homosexuality_print.html
http://www.christchapel.com/reclaiming.html
http://www.stjohnsmcc.org/new/BibleAbuse/BiblicalReferences.php
http://www.gaychristian101.com/

Thats why Jesus never mentions it as well. There is nothing immoral, wrong, or sinful about being gay. Jesus, however, clearly states he HATES hypocrites. If you preach goodness, then promote hate and twist the words of the Bible, you are a hypocrite, and will be judged and sent to hell. Homosexuals will not go to hell, hypocrites will.

This is very similar to the religious bigots of the past, where they took Bible passages to condone slavery, keep women down, and used Bible passages to claim blacks as curses who should be enslaved by the white man. People used God to claim that blacks marrying whites was unnatural, and not of God's will.

Posted by: shadow_man | June 16, 2010 7:04 AM | Report abuse

For those of you claiming homosexuality is a lifestyle, that is a false and ignorant statement. Homosexuality is not a choice. Just like you don't choose the color of your skin, you cannot choose whom you are sexually attracted to. If you can, sorry, but you are not heterosexual, you are bi-sexual. Virtually all major psychological and medical experts agree that sexual orientation is NOT a choice. Most gay people will tell you its not a choice. Common sense will tell you its not a choice. While science is relatively new to studying homosexuality, studies tend to indicate that its biological.

http://www-news.uchicago.edu/releases/03/differential-brain-activation.pdf
http://www.newscientist.com/channel/sex/dn14146-gay-brains-structured-like-those-of-the-opposite-sex.html
Gay, Straight Men's Brain Responses Differ
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,155990,00.html
http://www.livescience.com/health/060224_gay_genes.html
http://www.springerlink.com/content/w27453600k586276/

There is overwhelming scientific evidence that homosexuality is not a choice. Sexual orientation is generally a biological trait that is determined pre-natally, although there is no one certain thing that explains all of the cases. "Nurture" may have some effect, but for the most part it is biological.

Posted by: shadow_man | June 16, 2010 7:07 AM | Report abuse

The National Library of Medicine pubs confirm that sexual orientation is natural, biologically induced in the first trimester of pregnancy, morally neutral, immutable, neither contagious nor learned, bearing no relation to an individuals ability to form deep and lasting relationships, to parent children, to work or to contribute to society.

From the American Psychological Association: homosexuality is normal; homosexual relationships are normal.

The American Academy of Pediatrics, American Psychological Asociation and American Psychiatric Asociation have endorsed civil marriage for same-sex couples because marriage strengthens mental and physical health and longevity of couples, and provides greater legal and financial security for children, parents and seniors.

America's premier child/mental health associations endorse marriage equality.

Posted by: shadow_man | June 16, 2010 7:43 AM | Report abuse

I laugh at how immoral our nation has become. We've sat around and let these gay activists ram their agenda down everyone's throat. (pun intended) Everyone knows the gay lifestyle is a disgusting way of life. There's a reason a man and a woman can reproduce. There's a reason same sex couples cannot. I read these comments and it makes me sick. There are very few gays percentage wise in our country, but Obama and his pack of idiots have catered to every one of their demands. Prostitution is a rediculous way of life. It's dangerous and both gays and prostitutes are directly responsible for the spread of STDs. That's a fact. So, now why don't we allow pedophillia, because they were "born that way" too. It's a sad time in the USA.

Posted by: Jaytoday10 | June 16, 2010 8:59 AM | Report abuse

Jaytoday10: Obvious troll is obvious. You're trying way too hard buddy :)

Posted by: shadow_man | June 16, 2010 5:32 PM | Report abuse

To the anti-marriage folks, who may be suffering from sexual phobias, or ancient mythologies, it's time to spends ones energy and time on more important issues, like maybe going to the gulf coast to help clean up the muck..

Onward, Joe Mustich, Justice Peace,
Washington, Connecticut, USA.

Posted by: cornetmustich | June 17, 2010 11:22 AM | Report abuse

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