Readers Dissect Bush's 'Vietnam'

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time for the bushes to go and time for our troops to come theres no winners here its over and gone.... sign a vienam vet

Obviously Bush doesn't understand the real lesson of Vietnam, but luckily for us, we've got other people to inform us about it.

Bush does not know Vietnam since he was out of it literally and figuratively, and he was drunk while the war raged. We really really made a mess for ourselves by electing Bush to the presidency. He is a dunce of a massive proportion. The vets who listened politely while Bush spouted his Vietnam - Iraq comparisons should have risen up and walked out the room. Vietnam was a mistake just as Iraq is a mistake.

Will the librarian please give him back his coloring book; he can't read modern history.

It was some years after we left before the word "lost" appeared in conjunction with Vietnam in the popular press. It was never ours to lose in the bad sense; good riddance to bad wars. We opened our doors to S. Vietnamese. It was some months after we invaded Iraq, that the word "shame" appeared in conjunction with losing Vietnam. Guard your brain!

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how can those Vietnam Vets sit there and be lectured by a guy who partied through the entire war? I am shocked that these guys can sit there and listen to this crap without throwing tomatoes at this chickenhawk.

Failure to hold Bush and Congress responsible for this betrayal of our ideals and our trust only invites other self serving members of our professional political class to do the same at some future date.

There certainly is plenty of distortion in President Bush's comparison of Iraq to Vietnam. Yet in doing so, he also raises the specter of a number of ghosts and past wounds that our country has attempted to heal since Vietnam.

One such thread (that I am sure President Bush does not wish to highlight) is the connection between privilege and protection from, or avoidance of service in combat. To me, one of the most painful so-called lessons of Vietnam was that the people that do the fighting, the suffering and the dying are usually not represented among the ranks of the ruling class.

Is Iraq any different in that regard from Vietnam?

We should only hope that Iraq after our occupation comes out of its inevitable blood bath as well as Vietnam has.

Shame on the elected leaders and members of the VFW if they are not among "the first to sign up" in criticizing the distorted history and policy perversions contained in Prez Bushy's speech. The policies and actions of Bush and his "Death Eater" neo-con sychophants in no way warrant a salute from VFW membership, which includes combat veterans of the Persian Gulf, Viet Nam, and Korean Wars. To ignore the fundamental falsehoods underlying our current criminal fiasco in Iraq - that Iraq under Saddam had (1) anything to do with the 9-11-01 attacks and (2) Iraq posed an imminent security threat to the U.S.; compounded by the Administration's callous disregard for our troops by (1) lack of understanding of the threat and capabilities of the insurgency, (2) inadequate body and vehicle armor, (3) immoral lack of adequate care for our wounded solider, and (4) tolerance of war profiteering contractors actions - indicates that the VFW membership and leadership is asleep on watch. This is beyond sad, as it disgraces their otherwise honorable service by failing to do act to stop the carnage perpetrated by our ignorant and authoritarian leaders and in no way honors the dead or helps the living. Let us hope that Congressional democrats, the major news media, and clear-headed and warm-hearted American citizens find the courage to shine the light of Lady Liberty's torch in the dark corners and rid us of these plague-infested rats rending the fabric of our Republic. Here, from the VFW website:

"About the VFW

The Veterans of Foreign Wars of the United States, with its Auxiliaries, includes 2.3 million members in approximately 8,400 Posts worldwide.

Its mission is to "honor the dead by helping the living" through veterans' service, community service, national security and a strong national defense.

The VFW traces its roots back to 1899 when veterans of the Spanish-American War (1898) and the Philippine Insurrection (1899-1902) founded local organizations to secure rights and benefits for their service: Many arrived home wounded or sick. There was no medical care or veterans' pension for them,and they were left to care for themselves."

OK, What's the mission?

Kill Saddam, save Israel, grab the oil, fluff and enrich Special Interests, seed non-representative American style dee-mock-crow-cee in the Middle East?

Everytime Bush opens his mouth, I get confused and forget why Congress and Bush are bankrupting our Nation and spilling blood in the MIddle East.

As the young'uns say, "talk the talk, walk the walk". W's comparison of O.I.L. (Operation Iraq Liberation) to Vietnam is
correct on two points. We fought the wrong enemy and didn't send enough troops initially to get the job done.

Though tempting to suggest this conflict will continue in its downward spiral, and could become a much larger war, the outcome may be considerably more unexpected. If anything can be learned from experience (and that is a big if), it is telling that Bush is also considering another significant military embarrassment.
After the Viet Nam defeat, America effectively crawled into a shell and licked its wounds. However, military options were soon back on the table and back in the saddle.
Once again, an ill-conceived military intervention is proving to be a deeply flawed foreign policy. But this time, when the armed forces return with tail between legs, the outcome on the home front could be much different, because the anger, hatred and vicious level of polarization of the American public, resulting from the war, has a great deal of potential to turn inward.
Much of the rage that has emerged in America could easily explode in the form of latter-day Tim McVey's, and take the form of large-scale strikes against institutions, groups, and individuals. Add to such a dynamic, the anger of an embarrassed military, and an entrenched cultural ideology of responding to violence with violence and it becomes a recipe for civil war. There are a lot of guns and explosives afloat in America. Is this what Bush and others are really worried about?

Everyone should read the book "Where Have All the Leaders Gone" by Lee Iacocoa. It's an eye opener.

Americans need to vote on all issues not just a few. Why are we paying for the security of past presidents and their families? Why not consider providing security ONLY for the past 2 presidents and their families. The counrty would save money.

It would be nice if all of our officials and CEO's lived on minium wage for 5 years and have their family memebers fighting the war only to return home totally handicapped or dead. How would President Bush feel if his daughters were rapped and tortured.

This country was founded by brave and intelligent men that belived in God our Father!!

Americans need to stand up to our politicians and demand answers for the failure of the many programs that have failed. The war on drugs! It hasn't worked for 25 plus years yet we are paying billions for what? It didn't work and who is being held accountable? NO ONE

If everyone decided to speak up, ask questions and make people accountable, perhaps the world may be a better place.

I feel we need to put God back into our hearts, our schools and our government.

We do not need to be forced into fingerprinting our students nor any
citizen. On the surface, it sounds like a good idea but it has a strong potential for being a form of communistic.

Thank you alert readers. That apostrophe slipped in from somewhere else and has now been corrected, but I've committed more than one error of similar silliness on my own.

If one took the time to look at a history book one could see that Iraq was a creation of the Western Powers after World War I, particularly Britain and France. It was a division off the beaten Ottoman Empire. If you don't want to read, (George) see the movie "Lawrence of Arabia." It's almost accurate, more accurate than Bush advisors. Iraq's boundaries were created to divide the Arabs and prevent a common potentially powerful state based on ethnicity and or religious differences. But then, these people have been killing each other over religious interpretation since Mohammed's time. To think that the clowns in the White House can unite a un-unitable people just shows the stupidity we as the electorate have elected into office (twice)

Cut GW's comments into two halves. Firstly, he admitted Iraq is another Vietnam. Let it sink in. GW admitted Iraq is another Vietnam, after denying it for years. Secondly, GW wants to instantaneously imprint revisionist history on the lessons of Vietnam to serve his aims, as has been the policy of the Bush admin from day one. Ignore the second half, step back, point and laugh.

The only lesson from Viet Nam anyone needs to know is not to get involved in a civil war, or any war, unless your country's very existence is at stake. Viet Nam didn't meet that criteria and neither did Iraq and we're going to regret this for a very long time.

Obviously with the resignation of Karl Rove the last brain has departed the Whitehouse. Where does GWB get this guff he tries to sell as history? Iraq is not a war about ideology. It is about religion, religious trivia at that.
Better Iraq be left to partition or to meltdown than more USA or its allies's blood be spilt or gold be wasted. Who wants their son or daughter to be killed or maimed for the mindset of Dick Chaney or George Bush?
America could improve its world position by admitting this once that it was wrong to invade and then get the hell out and let them kill one another. After all it is not getting to excited about the genocide going on in Darfur. Why worry about Iraq?

A Washington Post journalist used an apostrophe to pluralize a word? Yikes! To make it worse, the headline was posted on Google News. I only clicked on it because I thought Google made a mistake.

George Bush invoking Viet Nam...is that the same Viet Nam his daddy bought his way out of? Hmmmm...curious

You didn't actually write the plural of "reader" as "reader's", did you?

Maliki? Are you kidding? The corporate run, puppet government in Iraq can't blow it's own nose without permission. How absurd is it for "mien fuhrer" to say it's up to the Iraqi people? In reality, Iraq is governed by the people who own it. And those people are NOT Iraqis!