Are We There Yet?
I can't avoid politics today. Anne E. Kornblut and Shailagh Murray tell us this morning that Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's campaign is pouring everything its got into the Texas and Ohio Democratic primaries next Tuesday because even her strongest supporters think she's toast if she doesn't win both states.
This article has attracted more than 300 comments at this writing, at least a dozen of which have come from someone who calls himself or herself "svreader." Others question his or her smarts. Clinton supporters predict that the nomination of Sen. Barack Obama would hand the presidency to Republican John McCain, complain that there has been a serious absence of journalistic scrutiny of Obama, and push for a Clinton-Obama ticket. There is also a call for an Obama-Clinton ticket. There are worries that Obama lacks sufficient experience in foreign policy.
In some ways this discussion reminds me of two young siblings standing in the hallway, pointing at each other, and shouting, "Did too," "Did not." Perhaps by next Wednesday we'll have clarity on these points. Then we can start enjoying the longest general election campaign in history.
We'll start with the aforementioned svreader, whose first post said, "Clinton/Obama is the winning ticket for the Democratic Party and will lead to 16 years of Democratic Whitehouse control. Obama isn't electable on his own. If we make that mistake we get McCain. Without both Clinton and Obama supporters Democrats can't win... Its time to put aside our differences for the good of the country."
To which silverpanda replied, "After Tuesday, Clintons will be history: Obama will never, ever let Hillary with all her negatives on his ticket. You just don't get it, do you svreader, 51% of Americans just plain do not like or trust Hillary or zipperboy, not for president, not for vice president, and certainly not for a cabinet position. Her so called in depth policy knowledge is actually just superficial BS..."
paulnolan97 said, "It would be great to see states that have tilted to Republican candidates like Ohio go for Obama the candidate who represents change from the status quo."
Pennsylvania Gov. Edward G. Rendell's, a Clinton supporter, said in the article that if Clinton does not win in Texas and Ohio, her campaign will not survive to run in the April 22 Pennsylvania primary. That caused gbooksdc to say, "Once AGAIN, there's no plan B. You'd think by now she'd learn. She stands a very good chance of doing well in Penn., with Rendell behind her... Why drop out when you have close to a guaranteed win?..."
jstonewp added, "I've always liked Rendell, and forgive him for wandering into the Clinton camp. He seems here to be preparing the Clintons and himself for the end of this false presidential candidacy."
carolee1 echoed complaints that had been heard in several quarters that the media has been kind to Obama, in writing, "If only the media would do some decent investigative reporting on Obama. Clinton has been vetted, and everything has been exposed and ridiculed. With Obama however, the public knows very little. What about the dealings with Rezko [http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/Tony+Rezko?tid=informline] and the corrupt Daley machine?... What about all the other things we don't know about him?"
jsindc said, "It is really laughable the media is beating this 'must win' drum over and over again. The two are separated by 100 delegates out of 4500 now without even counting Florida and Michigan. Senator Clinton will win Ohio, and might win Texas as well. How can you nominate someone that was defeated in California, New York, Florida, Michigan, Ohio, New Jersey, Massachusetts, ..."
csfoster2000 said, "...I believe the general consensus is that if she loses either Texas or Ohio, she should just give in, leave the primary race with some dignity, and do so with the best interest of the Democratic Party in mind... With that said, I like many would still love to see the Democratic Dream Ticket with Senator Hillary "The Fighter" Clinton serving as VP with Senator Barack (The New Tone-Setter) Obama serving as President..."
meldupree wrote, "You know, that finger wagging by Bill and condescending lecturing by Hillary to the people are getting really old... Good people of Texas, Ohio, Vermont and Rhode Island, I appeal to you: finish off Hillary and Bill's campaign and send them packing..."
cbl-pdx said, "Will all of you Clinton backers please get a grip. What has she actually accomplished?... Obama has earned this nomination and most of us are voting for him for very rational reasons. He is a first class leader and manager... He is also the best Democrat to beat McCain... Most of us don't hate the Clintons. We are just fatigued with them..."
eco-pharm predicted that "Next Wednesday will be a good day. That's the day Hillary will withdraw from the race. After losing both Texas and Ohio she won't be able to amass enough delegates to get the nomination. Then we can get on with making sure John McCrazy doesn't get elected."
AverageJane said, "For those of you that think the Obama supporters want to destroy Hillary Clinton. You are wrong she has done that all by her assuming self."
And Conrad1 raised a point that has also bugged some editorial writers in saying, "Hillary, please release tax returns and the documents right away, preferably before Tuesday so that we the public can see what you are trying to hide from."
george69 warned, "Democrats DON'T FORGET THIS: The presidential election will be decided on March 4th, not in November. Hillary can't win McCain! ... Obama is the Democratic Party's only trump card to win the White House!"
nads1 said, "This campaign is like a long, slow divorce, where all the voters are starting to wonder, "When will it be over?" How much longer must the Democratic Party be held hostage to the narcissistic whims of the Clintons?"
But graced8669 wrote, "Please don't vote just on looks & charisma! Senator Clinton is the candidate of choice. We do not need a novice in forgein policy leading our nation in the war on terror."
rschmieder predicted that "Hillary's not a spoiler. She's honest and forward looking. She will step aside when she doesn't win Ohio and Texas by 20 points. Then Obama will beat McCain, and then big money will beat Obama."
We'll close with this exchange, starting, with almaevangelista, who wrote, "Hillary is the best and most qualified candidate for president. If Americans especially the independents who are voting for Obama, then we will have another nice guy like Bush, who destroy our economy etc. We can also blame the media for helping this to happen as they did for Bush. Please help us God."
To which storyofthefifthpeach replied, "almaevangelista----In light of your comment, it is funny that Obama supporters are considered cultists. Personally, I think God stays out of elections. But, what exactly makes you think that if God could vote he (or she) would vote for Hillary?"
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